Latest / The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories / Serial Killer Documentary - Katherine Knight: Cannibal, Psychopath, Mother and Wife
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- 0:11Speaker 1: Tonight on Beyond the Dark Lands, meet the woman who
- 0:14Speaker 1: committed a crime so barbaric it shocked the world and
- 0:19Speaker 1: brought the worst kind of fame to the small town
- 0:21Speaker 1: of Aberdeen.
- 0:22Speaker 2: She wasn't mad. She was just evil.
- 0:25Speaker 3: She could switch on and off so quickly.
- 0:28Speaker 4: It was just that explosive anger which would come out
- 0:31Speaker 4: to the extreme.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Following years of brutal attacks, Catherine Knight committed a murder
- 0:37Speaker 1: that's almost incomprehensible.
- 0:41Speaker 5: I couldn't believe it.
- 0:41Speaker 6: I was horrified.
- 0:43Speaker 7: She took a sort of malevolent pleasure in death.
- 0:48Speaker 1: In 2001, Catherine Knight was the first Australian woman to
- 0:51Speaker 1: be jailed for the term of her natural life, never
- 0:54Speaker 1: to be released.
- 0:56Speaker 3: I went out and cut his dog's throat.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Was the dog dead?
- 1:00Speaker 3: It was a clean cut, they said.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Tonight, clinical psychologist Dr. Leah Jaritano takes us inside the
- 1:08Speaker 1: mind of Australia's most vicious female killer and explains why
- 1:13Speaker 1: she comes from beyond the dark lands.
- 1:31Speaker 8: This is one of the most distressing and disturbing murders
- 1:34Speaker 8: ever committed in this country. In fact, this horrendous slaughter
- 1:38Speaker 8: is notorious around the world, not just for its gruesome brutality,
- 1:42Speaker 8: but because it was committed by a rare creature, a
- 1:45Speaker 8: female psychopath. To even try to make sense of how
- 1:49Speaker 8: Catherine Knight could commit such a terrible act, we need
- 1:52Speaker 8: to understand where she came from and where she was
- 1:55Speaker 8: always destined to go.
- 2:03Speaker 1: This story takes place in New South Wales at the
- 2:05Speaker 1: Upper Hunter Valley in coal mining and cattle country. At
- 2:11Speaker 1: the heart of the story is the Aberdeen Meatworks, the
- 2:14Speaker 1: town's lifeblood for more than 100 years. In the 1940s,
- 2:20Speaker 1: the manager of the abattoir was Jack Rowan. He was
- 2:24Speaker 1: married to Barbara and they had four sons. It was
- 2:28Speaker 1: a huge scandal when Barbara ran off with another abattoir
- 2:31Speaker 1: worker Ken Knight. Ken and Barbara had four more children,
- 2:37Speaker 1: two boys and two girls. Among them was Catherine Mary Knight,
- 2:42Speaker 1: born on the 24th of October 1955 at Tamworth Hospital,
- 2:47Speaker 1: just half an hour after her twin sister Joy.
- 2:49Speaker 7: They were hard people. They were abattoir workers. They were itinerant.
- 2:54Speaker 7: They moved around a lot. They grew up in abusive
- 2:58Speaker 7: families and they were abusive families.
- 3:00Speaker 2: It was all they knew.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Catherine and Joy were toddlers when their mother's first husband died,
- 3:06Speaker 1: leaving Barbara to raise eight children.
- 3:09Speaker 7: Catherine moved through a lot of schools. She was very
- 3:12Speaker 7: close to her sister Joy, but she didn't have a
- 3:14Speaker 7: lot of close friends. And Catherine was not a confident
- 3:18Speaker 7: girl and didn't make friends easily. She had a terrible temper,
- 3:21Speaker 7: but she was also very shy.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Catherine craved her mother's love and affection, even though she
- 3:27Speaker 1: claims Barbara frequently beat her.
- 3:30Speaker 7: When a child is brought up like that, a child
- 3:32Speaker 7: turns out very damaged goods, as Catherine did, and a
- 3:35Speaker 7: lot of her siblings did too.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Ken wasn't one to back down from hitting his wife
- 3:41Speaker 1: or kids. But according to family, Barbara gave almost as
- 3:45Speaker 1: good as she got.
- 3:48Speaker 7: Catherine and some of her partners alleged that her father
- 3:51Speaker 7: was very violent towards her mother, that he demanded sex
- 3:54Speaker 7: and he got it no matter what went on.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Catherine was witness to this. It was never hidden.
- 4:00Speaker 7: And Catherine also suggests that she was the victim of
- 4:04Speaker 7: abuse at the hands of family members, sexual and physical abuse.
- 4:09Speaker 8: By age three or four, something would already have died
- 4:12Speaker 8: within Catherine. She knew no one was going to come
- 4:15Speaker 8: to make things better. So she had to learn to
- 4:17Speaker 8: fight or to hide. Obviously, very young children can't fight back.
- 4:22Speaker 8: So when they're under severe threat, some will dissociate. This
- 4:25Speaker 8: is more or less like a circuit tripping. Catherine was
- 4:28Speaker 8: overwhelmed and she mentally disconnected. But while she was in
- 4:32Speaker 8: that state, she was missing out on developing the range
- 4:35Speaker 8: of emotions that make us human, emotions like love, happiness,
- 4:39Speaker 8: joy and empathy.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Catherine grew up with a fear of rape and was
- 4:46Speaker 1: forever claiming that men had abused her. At school, she
- 4:51Speaker 1: was known for her sudden and violent temper.
- 4:54Speaker 7: I remember one of her classmates telling me that, She
- 4:57Speaker 7: saw Catherine turn on her sister Joy. It was an
- 5:00Speaker 7: argument about whose turn it was to ride the bicycle home. Now, girls,
- 5:04Speaker 7: sisters in that situation might pinch or pull hair or
- 5:07Speaker 7: slap each other or shout and cry.
- 5:09Speaker 2: They beat the crap out of each other with their fists.
- 5:13Speaker 1: At 15, Catherine left Musselbrook High School. She could barely
- 5:18Speaker 1: read or write and had no qualifications.
- 5:22Speaker 7: Her one great hope in life, her aspiration in life,
- 5:25Speaker 7: was to work at the abattoir. She wanted to go
- 5:29Speaker 7: where her brothers went, her father went, her mother had been,
- 5:33Speaker 7: her grandfather had been.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Everyone she knew and respected worked at the abattoir.
- 5:38Speaker 1: At 16, she landed her dream job. She began in
- 5:42Speaker 1: the offal room and later became a boner.
- 5:46Speaker 9: They used to bone 600 a day and kill 600
- 5:49Speaker 9: a day at the end. But, yeah, it was just
- 5:52Speaker 9: like everybody in Aberdeen used to work in the meatworks.
- 5:55Speaker 6: Catherine was in her element.
- 5:58Speaker 9: A lot of the women and a lot of the
- 6:00Speaker 9: people used to come up out of the bone room,
- 6:02Speaker 9: stand there and watch through the area, watch the people
- 6:04Speaker 9: slaughter the cattle.
- 6:05Speaker 6: It wasn't unusual.
- 6:07Speaker 1: The best part about the job was that she was
- 6:09Speaker 1: given her own set of knives, blades that soon became
- 6:13Speaker 1: her most prized possession.
- 6:16Speaker 2: There was something disturbing about the way Catherine loved to work.
- 6:20Speaker 2: Other workers talk of her nicking.
- 6:21Speaker 7: Arteries just to watch the carcasses bleed or the animals bleed.
- 6:26Speaker 2: She took a sort of malevolent pleasure in death.
- 6:30Speaker 8: Catherine's pathological profile means she would also have had many
- 6:34Speaker 8: fantasies about killing people. Fortunately for those around her, her
- 6:38Speaker 8: bloodlust was partially satisfied at the abattoir. The abattoir was
- 6:42Speaker 8: her killing field. Catherine got off on the screaming and
- 6:46Speaker 8: the blood of the animals being put to death. She
- 6:48Speaker 8: would also have loved the fear she instilled in others
- 6:50Speaker 8: who watched her and saw that nothing could faze her.
- 6:55Speaker 1: When she wasn't at work, Catherine was hanging out with
- 6:58Speaker 1: the new bloke in town, Dave Callard, better known as
- 7:02Speaker 1: Shorty Callard.
- 7:04Speaker 2: She probably stood a head taller than him. I believe
- 7:08Speaker 2: that David.
- 7:09Speaker 7: Was Catherine's first sexual partner and once they discovered sex,
- 7:13Speaker 7: they fell for it in a big way. And this
- 7:16Speaker 7: was the 70s. He was a wild-drinking, wild-living young man.
- 7:20Speaker 7: And I think one day he woke up and realised
- 7:22Speaker 7: that he'd proposed to her.
- 7:25Speaker 2: The violence was announced on the.
- 7:27Speaker 7: Wedding night when David woke up with Catherine attempting.
- 7:32Speaker 2: To choke him.
- 7:34Speaker 7: She was furious that they hadn't had sex five times
- 7:37Speaker 7: because Catherine had been told that her mum and dad
- 7:39Speaker 7: had sex five.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Times on their wedding night and she figured that this
- 7:43Speaker 2: was normal.
- 7:44Speaker 7: David had expired after two attempts and she tried to
- 7:48Speaker 7: kill him.
- 7:49Speaker 1: David died of a heart attack in 2007. But his
- 7:53Speaker 1: sister remembers the first time he took his 18-year-old bride
- 7:56Speaker 1: home to Coffs Harbour to meet the family.
- 8:00Speaker 3: I think in the beginning they were madly in love.
- 8:04Speaker 10: I thought they were totally opposite. You know, the tall
- 8:07Speaker 10: redhead marries the little short, dark person. But then they
- 8:12Speaker 10: say opposites attract.
- 8:15Speaker 11: Well, she was just a girl, auburn, curly hair with glasses,
- 8:21Speaker 11: much taller than David, and I hoped the best for them.
- 8:28Speaker 10: I went to live with her and David in Aberdeen
- 8:30Speaker 10: for a few months, and of course I got to
- 8:33Speaker 10: know her a lot better then.
- 8:34Speaker 3: She was working at the abattoirs. She was lovely. She
- 8:37Speaker 3: was very charming. We got on very well, actually. Most
- 8:41Speaker 3: of the time that they were married, Cathy and I
- 8:43Speaker 3: got on very, very well.
- 8:46Speaker 11: There was always something about the family that I wasn't
- 8:50Speaker 11: sure of. I just felt there was a roughness around
- 8:55Speaker 11: the edges.
- 8:57Speaker 1: But the most worrying thing about Catherine was her rapid
- 9:01Speaker 1: mood changes.
- 9:03Speaker 3: She could be extremely happy.
- 9:04Speaker 10: She'd walk around the house humming and singing and the
- 9:07Speaker 10: next minute she'd just fly into a rage. When Cathy
- 9:13Speaker 10: was cranky, she got this strength about her. She became
- 9:17Speaker 10: so strong that she could have picked David up and
- 9:20Speaker 10: thrown him across the room.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Catherine had already begun threatening people with her treasured knives,
- 9:28Speaker 1: which were never far from reach.
- 9:31Speaker 3: And that's what David always said to us.
- 9:34Speaker 10: Once she gets cranky, just get out of the way,
- 9:36Speaker 10: because if she picked up a knife or whatever, it
- 9:40Speaker 10: was too late to get out.
- 9:40Speaker 5: Of the way.
- 9:43Speaker 1: By her 20th birthday, Catherine was pregnant and highly suspicious
- 9:47Speaker 1: of her husband, who had found himself a new girlfriend.
- 9:52Speaker 7: David wasn't the most loyal husband and admitted to me
- 9:56Speaker 7: later that he had pretty poor morals at that period
- 9:58Speaker 7: of his life. He was just a young man. bloke
- 10:00Speaker 7: and I suspect he wasn't always that comfortable at home anyway.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Catherine and David's baby, Melissa, was born on the 11th
- 10:09Speaker 1: of May 1976. Six weeks later, Catherine tried to stab
- 10:15Speaker 1: her husband with a broken beer bottle. Sick of his
- 10:19Speaker 1: wife's psycho ways, Kellett ran away to Queensland with his
- 10:23Speaker 1: new girlfriend, having no idea of the lengths his wife
- 10:26Speaker 1: would go to to punish him for leaving her. In
- 10:33Speaker 1: July 1976, 20 year old Catherine Knight was furious. Her
- 10:39Speaker 1: husband of two years had recently abandoned her, leaving Catherine
- 10:44Speaker 1: with their two month old baby. Catherine was obsessively jealous
- 10:48Speaker 1: and knowing David had run off with another woman, sent
- 10:51Speaker 1: her right over the edge.
- 10:54Speaker 7: Catherine was seen walking down the main street of Aberdeen,
- 10:58Speaker 7: swinging the pram violently from one side to the other.
- 11:01Speaker 2: She was dishevelled, she was wailing, she was a mad woman.
- 11:04Speaker 7: And it looked like at one stage she was going
- 11:06Speaker 7: to send the pram hurling into the traffic.
- 11:10Speaker 1: The police were called, and Catherine was admitted to St
- 11:13Speaker 1: Elmo's Psychiatric Hospital in Tamworth.
- 11:16Speaker 6: She was treated with antidepressants.
- 11:19Speaker 1: She was back home after a couple of weeks, but
- 11:22Speaker 1: there was still no sign of David and her rage
- 11:25Speaker 1: hadn't subsided. Unaware she was being watched by Lorna from
- 11:31Speaker 1: the corner store, she placed 12-week-old Melissa on the railway
- 11:35Speaker 1: tracks and walked away. The southbound train was due any minute.
- 11:41Speaker 7: Ted Abrahams found the baby on the track before the
- 11:43Speaker 7: train came.
- 11:45Speaker 2: It was a touch-and-go thing, I believe.
- 11:49Speaker 12: And then in the meantime, she left the line and
- 11:52Speaker 12: went up to a house just up the road and
- 11:56Speaker 12: raced into the backyard of it and grabbed the axe
- 11:59Speaker 12: and was swinging it around in her head.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Catherine was taken back to the same psychiatric ward at
- 12:08Speaker 1: St Elmo's Hospital, but checked herself out the same day.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Less than 24 hours later, she snapped again.
- 12:17Speaker 7: She went around to a neighbour's house and knocked on
- 12:19Speaker 7: the door and said, my baby's ill, you need to
- 12:21Speaker 7: drive me to the hospital.
- 12:24Speaker 6: The family agreed.
- 12:25Speaker 1: Catherine went home and the woman and her children drove
- 12:28Speaker 1: to Catherine's place and found her very agitated.
- 12:33Speaker 7: And one of the daughters went in with Catherine to
- 12:35Speaker 7: get Melissa out of the cot. Instead of getting Melissa
- 12:40Speaker 7: out of the cot, Catherine produced a knife and began
- 12:43Speaker 7: chasing this teenage girl out of the house. She slashed
- 12:47Speaker 7: her face under the lemon tree. Then she took the
- 12:50Speaker 7: family hostage and said that she wanted them to drive
- 12:53Speaker 7: her to David Kellett's mother's house.
- 12:57Speaker 6: She wanted to kill David's mother.
- 12:59Speaker 1: She knew a surefire way to get a man's attention
- 13:02Speaker 1: was to go after his mum.
- 13:05Speaker 7: Somehow the family convinced Catherine that they needed to stop
- 13:08Speaker 7: at the service station and that one of the boys
- 13:10Speaker 7: should be let go because.
- 13:11Speaker 2: He was asthmatic.
- 13:13Speaker 6: The boy alerted the police.
- 13:16Speaker 7: It took two policemen and the service station attendant to
- 13:20Speaker 7: quieten Catherine down.
- 13:21Speaker 2: She was swinging a.
- 13:22Speaker 7: Big metal rod at the service station attendant, threatening to
- 13:26Speaker 7: kill people.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Again, she wasn't charged. Again, she was shipped off to
- 13:31Speaker 2: a mental institution.
- 13:33Speaker 8: Catherine uses violence and fear to intimidate people into doing
- 13:37Speaker 8: exactly as she wants. She's seen it done in her
- 13:40Speaker 8: own family and she's carrying on the tradition. But while
- 13:43Speaker 8: Catherine's rage is at times spontaneous, At other times, she's
- 13:47Speaker 8: coldly calculating. You see, Catherine enjoys seeing people terrified of
- 13:51Speaker 8: her unpredictability. She's amused by their fear.
- 13:57Speaker 1: In Queensland, things weren't working out for David and his
- 14:00Speaker 1: now pregnant girlfriend.
- 14:03Speaker 7: When David heard what had happened with Catherine back in Aberdeen,
- 14:07Speaker 7: he called his mother and they decided to go back
- 14:10Speaker 7: and collect her from the psychiatric institution at Morissette.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Catherine was released into Florence's care. The following day, David
- 14:20Speaker 1: drove his wife and mother to Aberdeen to pick up
- 14:22Speaker 1: baby Melissa. This was only the second time Florence had
- 14:27Speaker 1: met Catherine's mother, Barbara.
- 14:30Speaker 11: Cathy's mother came out to the car, proceeded to choke
- 14:35Speaker 11: David through the window.
- 14:37Speaker 6: I was petrified.
- 14:41Speaker 7: David.
- 14:43Speaker 11: David just.
- 14:45Speaker 11: I held the steering wheel.
- 14:49Speaker 7: David's mother was sitting in the back of the car,
- 14:51Speaker 7: freaking out. She didn't know what to do.
- 14:53Speaker 2: She'd never seen people behave like this in her life.
- 14:55Speaker 2: She was a very nice woman.
- 14:56Speaker 11: Cathy came out, saw what her mother was doing, hit
- 15:01Speaker 11: her with a fist across the head and knocked her
- 15:08Speaker 11: mother down. That saved David's life.
- 15:12Speaker 7: Here was the father yelling, the mother unconscious in the dirt,
- 15:16Speaker 7: the daughter with the grazed knuckles from what she'd just done.
- 15:21Speaker 2: It was a circus.
- 15:26Speaker 1: A few weeks later, Catherine and David relocated to Woodridge
- 15:30Speaker 1: in Queensland.
- 15:31Speaker 6: To make a fresh start.
- 15:33Speaker 1: David got a job driving trucks and Catherine began work
- 15:37Speaker 1: at an abattoir near Brisbane. In October 76, David organised
- 15:44Speaker 1: a surprise 21st party for his wife.
- 15:48Speaker 10: And she was just so thrilled that she couldn't stop
- 15:52Speaker 10: kissing him all night because she was feeling like a
- 15:55Speaker 10: princess for a night.
- 15:57Speaker 3: That night she was so well behaved and it was
- 16:00Speaker 3: a good night. We all enjoyed ourselves.
- 16:04Speaker 1: It was in Queensland that Catherine's love of her work
- 16:07Speaker 1: knives became obsessive. She started taking them everywhere she went.
- 16:12Speaker 1: She even hung them above the bed when she slept.
- 16:17Speaker 11: And I said to Cathy, why do you have knives
- 16:20Speaker 11: in the bed or hang them on the wall? She said,
- 16:24Speaker 11: shrugged her shoulders and with a pout, you know, she
- 16:27Speaker 11: was just childlike. They're there in case I need them.
- 16:31Speaker 11: They were her pride and joy. I think she loved
- 16:34Speaker 11: her knives as much as she loved David.
- 16:37Speaker 1: While staying with them at Woodridge, Sandy witnessed one vicious
- 16:41Speaker 1: act she'll never forget.
- 16:42Speaker 10: There was one occasion that I heard one of her
- 16:48Speaker 10: children crying very, very loudly in the bathroom. And I
- 16:54Speaker 10: went in to see why there was so much crying
- 16:59Speaker 10: in the bathroom. And she had the hot tap on
- 17:04Speaker 10: and she was holding her daughter under.
- 17:06Speaker 3: The hot tap. I told David what I saw.
- 17:11Speaker 10: And my brother said, promise me, Sandy, you won't say
- 17:14Speaker 10: anything to Kathy tonight because she will kill you in
- 17:17Speaker 10: your sleep and she will most likely kill me.
- 17:22Speaker 1: By 1979, the couple's marriage was in real trouble. David
- 17:27Speaker 1: found Catherine in bed with another man. She begged him
- 17:30Speaker 1: for one more chance. They moved to Landsborough and Catherine
- 17:35Speaker 1: convinced her husband to have another baby.
- 17:39Speaker 10: Cathy's moods became worse. She became more violent. And by then,
- 17:44Speaker 10: David was quite scared of being married to her.
- 17:47Speaker 6: David had every reason to be scared.
- 17:51Speaker 1: He never knew what was going to set Catherine off
- 17:53Speaker 1: and just how brutal she was going to be. The
- 17:56Speaker 1: next attack would come when he was least expecting it
- 18:00Speaker 1: and would almost kill him. It was 1979. and Catherine
- 18:07Speaker 1: was pregnant with her second child. Her six-year marriage to
- 18:11Speaker 1: David wasn't going well. He was now very scared of
- 18:15Speaker 1: his wife, never knowing when she would attack him. One night,
- 18:21Speaker 1: he was late home from the pub because he'd made
- 18:23Speaker 1: the finals of the darts competition.
- 18:27Speaker 2: She hated men being late.
- 18:29Speaker 7: But David put it out of the back of his mind,
- 18:31Speaker 7: played in the final, God knows if he won or lost,
- 18:34Speaker 7: but he certainly lost when he got home.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Because he walked through the door and she caved in
- 18:37Speaker 2: the back of his head with a skillet. She fractured
- 18:40Speaker 2: his skull.
- 18:42Speaker 6: He staggered to a neighbour's place before collapsing.
- 18:45Speaker 2: I thought he was going to die.
- 18:47Speaker 14: I thought she'd cut him in half on the head
- 18:49Speaker 14: because there was just so much blood.
- 18:52Speaker 1: David spent the next week in hospital. Back home, he
- 18:56Speaker 1: discovered what Catherine had been doing while he'd been playing darts.
- 19:01Speaker 2: She grabbed all his stuff and put it all in
- 19:03Speaker 2: the bathtub.
- 19:04Speaker 3: And burnt his shoes, his belts, his socks, his shirts,
- 19:07Speaker 3: his shorts.
- 19:08Speaker 2: He only had the clothes he had on.
- 19:10Speaker 7: The police wanted to press very serious charges against her,
- 19:14Speaker 7: but she was back to her sweetest and best and
- 19:18Speaker 7: pleaded with him not to do it for the sake
- 19:19Speaker 7: of their children, and he didn't press charges, but she very.
- 19:22Speaker 2: Nearly killed him.
- 19:25Speaker 1: In March 1980, 24-year-old Catherine Knight gave birth to Natasha
- 19:30Speaker 1: Callett at Nambour Hospital. Around this time, David was driving
- 19:35Speaker 1: furniture trucks, which involved being away a lot.
- 19:39Speaker 6: This led to more anxiety and more madness.
- 19:43Speaker 7: One night he woke up with her threatening to stab him.
- 19:46Speaker 7: She said, I know you truck drivers have women in
- 19:49Speaker 7: every town you've got one, haven't you?
- 19:50Speaker 2: You've got one. He denied it. He probably did, but
- 19:54Speaker 2: he denied it.
- 19:56Speaker 7: This eventually put so much strain on their relationship that
- 19:58Speaker 7: one day he came home and she'd gone. Out of
- 20:00Speaker 7: the blue, everything was gone and she went back home
- 20:03Speaker 7: to Aberdeen.
- 20:06Speaker 8: It might look like Catherine has a terrible fear of abandonment,
- 20:09Speaker 8: that she lashes out when she's frightened David will leave her.
- 20:13Speaker 8: In fact, Catherine's anger is triggered when someone doesn't do
- 20:16Speaker 8: exactly what she wants. She's not hopelessly in love with
- 20:19Speaker 8: David and unable to live without him. She's already cheated
- 20:23Speaker 8: on him once, and when it suited her, she left him.
- 20:30Speaker 7: When Catherine got back to Aberdeen with the two kids,
- 20:32Speaker 7: she wasn't alone very long. She took up with a
- 20:34Speaker 7: local bloke called Dave Saunders, who sort of fitted the
- 20:37Speaker 7: bill with blokes that Catherine went out with. He was
- 20:41Speaker 7: a hard-working, hard-drinking, hard-talking sort of man.
- 20:44Speaker 1: Saunders was a former speedway driver who was working at
- 20:47Speaker 1: the coal mines when he met Catherine in 1986.
- 20:49Speaker 6: He and his.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Dingo pup soon moved from Scone to Aberdeen to live
- 20:55Speaker 1: with Catherine and her daughters. But Saunders reckons the honeymoon
- 20:59Speaker 1: period only lasted a couple of months.
- 21:04Speaker 7: One night, he opened the door of the house to
- 21:07Speaker 7: be met by Catherine, who was in the middle of
- 21:08Speaker 7: the ironing. She didn't put the iron down to greet him.
- 21:11Speaker 7: She swung it and smashed him in the face with
- 21:14Speaker 7: the iron. Apparently, they said you could see the steam
- 21:16Speaker 7: marks on the side of his face for weeks later.
- 21:19Speaker 2: But she wasn't finished.
- 21:20Speaker 7: She had him by one arm and was swinging him
- 21:23Speaker 7: around the front room of the house, attempting to cave
- 21:25Speaker 7: his skull in with the iron. The only reason she
- 21:28Speaker 7: was doing this is because he was late home Why
- 21:32Speaker 7: did Dave Saunders stay with Catherine Knight? Why did Dave
- 21:35Speaker 7: Callot stay with Catherine Knight? Apparently she was fantastic in bed.
- 21:47Speaker 7: Things had gotten worse with Saunders. One particularly ugly fight
- 21:52Speaker 7: began when he tried to leave her. The fight ended
- 21:55Speaker 7: when Catherine ran outside. Saunders followed and saw she was
- 22:00Speaker 7: nursing his dingo pup. He realised she was holding a
- 22:04Speaker 7: knife and she'd slit his dog's throat. It was dying
- 22:07Speaker 7: in front of his eyes. She was that angry at
- 22:10Speaker 7: him for leaving her that she killed his dog.
- 22:13Speaker 1: After she'd killed the dog, she turned up at her
- 22:16Speaker 1: sister Joy's place with a shotgun, saying she'd killed Dave Saunders.
- 22:23Speaker 8: Catherine has two reasons for telling her sister Joy she's
- 22:26Speaker 8: killed Dave. The first is for the shock and distress
- 22:29Speaker 8: this will create. She finds this funny. The second reason
- 22:33Speaker 8: is because she's actually planning his death. She's rehearsing the
- 22:36Speaker 8: method of murder in her mind, and she's experiencing people's
- 22:39Speaker 8: reaction to the news without going.
- 22:41Speaker 6: Through with it.
- 22:44Speaker 7: After she killed the dog, Saunders tried to leave Catherine
- 22:47Speaker 7: a few times.
- 22:48Speaker 2: He moved in with mates, but she would never let
- 22:50Speaker 2: him go. She was very persistent.
- 22:53Speaker 1: In June 1988, Catherine and Saunders had a baby daughter.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Saunders bought an old weatherboard cottage at McQueen Street. When
- 23:01Speaker 1: their baby was six months old, they moved in. But
- 23:05Speaker 1: things hadn't improved and Saunders kept trying to escape.
- 23:10Speaker 7: He took long service leave from the mine and told
- 23:12Speaker 7: her he was going to visit a mate in another town.
- 23:15Speaker 7: He wasn't going to another town and he wasn't coming
- 23:18Speaker 7: back either as far as.
- 23:19Speaker 2: He was concerned.
- 23:20Speaker 7: He disappeared and he'd gone to Newcastle and he hid
- 23:22Speaker 7: in Newcastle, got another job.
- 23:24Speaker 1: The fiery redhead was furious that Saunders had managed to
- 23:27Speaker 1: get away and so she told their two-year-old daughter her
- 23:31Speaker 1: father was dead. While searching for Saunders, she stumbled upon
- 23:35Speaker 1: her next prey. This relationship followed her usual pattern.
- 23:41Speaker 7: Pretty soon after they got together, she was pregnant. Pretty
- 23:45Speaker 7: soon after that, their relationship turned violent. At one stage,
- 23:49Speaker 7: she broke his.
- 23:50Speaker 2: Glasses, she hit him. There are a lot of allegations
- 23:53Speaker 2: that he hit her.
- 23:55Speaker 1: This hook-up produced Catherine's first and only son. He was
- 23:59Speaker 1: born in March 1991, just 11 months after they met.
- 24:06Speaker 7: Their relationship came to a sticky end. She left him
- 24:09Speaker 7: with the kids. He felt the abandonment this time and
- 24:14Speaker 7: tried to follow her about, but she'd already found a
- 24:16Speaker 7: new bloke, and that bloke was John Price.
- 24:19Speaker 6: Unfortunately for John Price.
- 24:22Speaker 1: No one could have foreseen the acts of untold horror
- 24:25Speaker 1: that were awaiting him. Catherine Knight had four children to
- 24:35Speaker 1: three former partners. All her exes claimed she used to
- 24:39Speaker 1: beat them up. In October 1993, she met John Price.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Both were 38 years old. Pricey had an ex-wife and
- 24:50Speaker 1: three kids he adored. He was the one for Catherine
- 24:54Speaker 1: and she had no intention of letting him get away.
- 24:58Speaker 7: Pricey was another bloke who'd left school early, loved to drink,
- 25:02Speaker 7: drove big trucks, worked at the mine.
- 25:04Speaker 2: You know, he was your knockabout, ordinary Australian bloke.
- 25:08Speaker 3: Well, I only met him for a few moments and
- 25:10Speaker 3: I thought, what a lovely man. A real country, a
- 25:14Speaker 3: lovely man. He shook my hand and I went, wow,
- 25:17Speaker 3: you know, good manners too.
- 25:18Speaker 7: All four of her partners were very similar people. And
- 25:23Speaker 7: there was rarely a night in their lives that they
- 25:24Speaker 7: were sober, at least when they were with Catherine.
- 25:26Speaker 6: Initially, the relationship was good.
- 25:31Speaker 13: They got on quite well.
- 25:33Speaker 15: Like, they could sit down and have a conversation and
- 25:35Speaker 15: have meals and, you know, I never really seen much arguing.
- 25:40Speaker 5: I actually didn't mind her. I knew she was different
- 25:45Speaker 5: and I knew she was... She was good for Dad,
- 25:49Speaker 5: but she wasn't good for Dad. She had a lot
- 25:51Speaker 5: of good points and she had a lot of bad points,
- 25:53Speaker 5: but the same with Dad. He had good points and
- 25:55Speaker 5: he had bad points.
- 25:58Speaker 6: But some of Catherine's bad points were just downright strange.
- 26:02Speaker 15: She'd swerve to hit a dog, like a dog would
- 26:04Speaker 15: run across the road and she'd swerve.
- 26:05Speaker 13: To hit it. Like, Kath, what are you doing that for?
- 26:07Speaker 13: She's like, I don't like dogs.
- 26:10Speaker 1: The relationship followed the usual pattern.
- 26:13Speaker 2: This time she didn't get pregnant. She was getting older.
- 26:17Speaker 2: But there was violence. She beat him. Perhaps he beat her,
- 26:21Speaker 2: I don't know. She says that he did.
- 26:24Speaker 7: His children say that there were scars on his body
- 26:26Speaker 7: from where she'd stabbed him and hit him.
- 26:29Speaker 1: Pricey's nickname for Catherine was the Speckled Hen. After about
- 26:34Speaker 1: 18 months, the Speckled Hen was pushing for a lifelong commitment.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Pricey told her he was only in it for the
- 26:41Speaker 1: sex and she ought to get used to it.
- 26:45Speaker 13: She wanted Dad to marry her. She wanted Dad to
- 26:48Speaker 13: marry her. And Dad wouldn't.
- 26:51Speaker 6: When Pricey wouldn't do what she wanted, she'd try to
- 26:54Speaker 6: hurt his children.
- 26:57Speaker 15: I was, what, a 13-year-old girl, 14-year-old girl, and I'd
- 27:00Speaker 15: just come home and she sat me down, like, really
- 27:02Speaker 15: serious conversation to tell me that my father wasn't, you know,
- 27:06Speaker 15: I wasn't my father's, that my mother had slept with
- 27:08Speaker 15: some other bloke, and, you know, I didn't belong to
- 27:11Speaker 15: my father.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Although they weren't officially living together, Catherine treated Pricey's place
- 27:18Speaker 1: like it was her own. Pricey told friends he wanted
- 27:22Speaker 1: her out of his house, but in Catherine's mind, the
- 27:25Speaker 1: house was rightly hers. When she found Pricey's will and
- 27:31Speaker 1: saw he'd left everything to his ex-wife and kids, she
- 27:34Speaker 1: demanded $ 10, 000 to leave. When Pricey refused to give her anything,
- 27:40Speaker 1: she got a video camera and filmed the first aid
- 27:43Speaker 1: kits he'd stolen from work.
- 27:46Speaker 16: Catherine said to me, I've got him good and proper now,
- 27:49Speaker 16: and I said, What do you mean? And she said,
- 27:51Speaker 16: I taped the stuff that he got from work he
- 27:54Speaker 16: wasn't supposed to have. And she said, and I sent
- 27:56Speaker 16: a video to his workplace and to the cops. And
- 27:59Speaker 16: she said, that's fixed him. He's lost his job now.
- 28:02Speaker 16: And I can remember thinking at the time, oh, my God,
- 28:06Speaker 16: how could you do that to anybody?
- 28:09Speaker 1: Pricey was 43 and unemployed. Catherine told her daughter Natasha
- 28:14Speaker 1: that if Pricey took her back this time, it would
- 28:17Speaker 1: be until death.
- 28:18Speaker 5: I don't know why I went back to her. Maybe
- 28:24Speaker 5: he just felt that he needed somebody.
- 28:26Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Little did Pricey know that death would come sooner rather
- 28:32Speaker 1: than later. Catherine Knight was furious when she videoed first
- 28:39Speaker 1: aid kits her partner had stolen from work. She sent
- 28:43Speaker 1: the videos to his boss and the police. John Price
- 28:47Speaker 1: was sacked. No-one could believe Pricey would take Catherine back
- 28:51Speaker 1: after a stunt like that.
- 28:53Speaker 6: But he did.
- 28:57Speaker 1: With her two younger children now at school, Catherine was
- 29:00Speaker 1: spending more time alone at home, watching her disturbing horror
- 29:04Speaker 1: movies and enjoying the death that surrounded her.
- 29:09Speaker 7: One of her favourite places was a lounge room in
- 29:11Speaker 7: her home. The lounge room was full of dead things.
- 29:14Speaker 7: It was full of skulls and skins and horns.
- 29:19Speaker 15: She'd have machetes and all your old farm working stuff,
- 29:24Speaker 15: like your little old push mowers and stuff, well they'd
- 29:26Speaker 15: be all hanging off the roof. She'd have like animal heads,
- 29:31Speaker 15: stuff like animal heads, just all creepy country type of stuff.
- 29:40Speaker 8: Catherine's been obsessed with death since she was as young
- 29:43Speaker 8: as four or five. She keeps the trophies of dead
- 29:46Speaker 8: animals around her, partly because she finds death attractive, the
- 29:50Speaker 8: way some of us would view art. But she also
- 29:53Speaker 8: loves the way these corpses creep others out. They make
- 29:56Speaker 8: people more scared of her. Catherine also watches sadistic movies
- 30:00Speaker 8: as though they were pornography. These movies enrich her violent
- 30:04Speaker 8: fantasy life.
- 30:07Speaker 1: It was late 1999 and 44-year-old Catherine was desperately trying
- 30:12Speaker 1: to hold on to her man while he was desperately
- 30:16Speaker 1: trying to get away from her.
- 30:20Speaker 3: Deep down, I think that he knew.
- 30:21Speaker 5: He knew it was going to happen. He knew. If
- 30:26Speaker 5: it wasn't him, it was going to be somebody else.
- 30:31Speaker 1: The last few days of Pricey's life were building to
- 30:34Speaker 1: a grisly climax. On the Sunday before his death, the
- 30:38Speaker 1: couple had a massive fight, which resulted in a visit
- 30:41Speaker 1: from the police. On Monday, Pricey went to work, and
- 30:47Speaker 1: for the first time, he showed two colleagues where Catherine
- 30:50Speaker 1: had previously stabbed him.
- 30:53Speaker 5: He went back to work on the Tuesday and said
- 30:55Speaker 5: to his boss, I've got to go to the courthouse
- 30:57Speaker 5: and the police station to see what they can do
- 30:58Speaker 5: to keep this crazy bitch away from me.
- 31:01Speaker 1: The news wasn't good. Pricey was told he'd have to
- 31:04Speaker 1: wait three weeks to go to court. He thought he'd
- 31:07Speaker 1: probably be dead by then, but had no idea he
- 31:10Speaker 1: was already halfway through the last day of his life.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Workmates pleaded with him not to stay at home that night.
- 31:20Speaker 5: And he said, I've got to go home, because if
- 31:23Speaker 5: I don't, she's got to go after me or my kids,
- 31:25Speaker 5: and I'd sooner get me than my kids. And she did.
- 31:31Speaker 1: While Pricey was busy trying to get help, Catherine was
- 31:34Speaker 1: playing out her fantasy. She bought a sexy black nightie
- 31:39Speaker 1: and then went to Natasha's place to make a.
- 31:41Speaker 6: Final family video.
- 31:46Speaker 1: On the videos, she's kissing and hugging her children and
- 31:49Speaker 1: making statements that could be perceived to be her last
- 31:52Speaker 1: will and testament.
- 31:55Speaker 6: Don't forget that old cane pram that my mum owned.
- 31:57Speaker 6: I own, you own. She arrived at St Andrews Street
- 32:03Speaker 6: around 11.30pm. Pricey was asleep.
- 32:07Speaker 1: She watched some TV, had a shower, put on the
- 32:11Speaker 1: new black nightie and went to bed.
- 32:14Speaker 6: They had sex. And then she struck.
- 32:20Speaker 1: Pricey's workmates were immediately worried when he didn't show up
- 32:24Speaker 1: the next day.
- 32:25Speaker 4: John Price was a person who was always the first
- 32:28Speaker 4: to arrive at work. That's why the concern was raised
- 32:31Speaker 4: Concerns were raised very early by his workmates.
- 32:34Speaker 13: Apparently, they just kept ringing and ringing and ringing. And
- 32:39Speaker 13: there was no answer. So they all pretty well knew.
- 32:45Speaker 2: Price had predicted his death.
- 32:47Speaker 7: He'd run around town for days trying to get help
- 32:50Speaker 7: from magistrates and police and neighbours.
- 32:53Speaker 2: But nobody took him seriously enough, unfortunately.
- 32:58Speaker 1: Police were called and a crowd of concerned locals gathered
- 33:02Speaker 1: outside 84 St Andrews Street. When police forced their way
- 33:08Speaker 1: into the house, they found Catherine Knight asleep on the bed.
- 33:12Speaker 1: She had swallowed a number of pills and was.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Out of it.
- 33:16Speaker 5: A good friend of mine, she said she was there
- 33:18Speaker 5: the morning they brought her out. She said, Rosie, I
- 33:20Speaker 5: don't care what anybody says. She walked out of that
- 33:23Speaker 5: house as sane as you and I. She said the
- 33:25Speaker 5: only one she looked at was my brother and she
- 33:26Speaker 5: said she just had a grin on her face. and
- 33:28Speaker 5: my brother just dropped to his knees.
- 33:30Speaker 1: When Detective Sergeant Bob Wells arrived at the scene, Catherine
- 33:34Speaker 1: Knight was being taken away in an ambulance.
- 33:36Speaker 4: I initially spoke with the duty officer at the time
- 33:41Speaker 4: who briefed me basically of what he'd witnessed inside the premises.
- 33:47Speaker 4: I then went into the house and it was just
- 33:50Speaker 4: totally horrific and it was a shock to everybody that
- 33:53Speaker 4: had anything to do with that particular crime scene. I
- 33:56Speaker 4: just couldn't believe that one human being, either male or female,
- 34:00Speaker 4: without species, could carry out such a calculated offence.
- 34:16Speaker 1: Catherine Knight stabbed John Price 37 times before skinning, beheading,
- 34:23Speaker 1: and further mutilating his corpse. She then cooked parts of
- 34:26Speaker 1: his body, including his head.
- 34:29Speaker 6: She'd prepared two plates for his children.
- 34:31Speaker 1: The meals consisted of human meat and vegetables.
- 34:37Speaker 4: There was a note beside each plate. It was writing
- 34:40Speaker 4: on it with the names.
- 34:45Speaker 2: John and Bec.
- 34:47Speaker 13: She didn't leave me one.
- 34:48Speaker 5: Apparently she'd actually put knives through their photos.
- 34:52Speaker 13: Left mine alone.
- 34:56Speaker 15: Yeah, she's left a couple of notes to my brother
- 34:59Speaker 15: and myself. It was more or less along the lines of,
- 35:03Speaker 15: if I can't have your father, nobody else will have
- 35:06Speaker 15: him either.
- 35:08Speaker 1: It didn't take long for the unfathomable news to spread.
- 35:11Speaker 10: It came over the radio that a lady from Aberdeen
- 35:15Speaker 10: had killed her husband and I just looked at my
- 35:19Speaker 10: husband and I said, you know, that would have to
- 35:21Speaker 10: be my sister-in-law.
- 35:23Speaker 3: It couldn't be anybody else. It would have to be Cathy.
- 35:26Speaker 10: And my husband said, you know, Sandy, you've said a
- 35:29Speaker 10: lot of things about her over the years, but I
- 35:30Speaker 10: don't think she's that crazy. And then it came over
- 35:33Speaker 10: the news only hours later that it was Cathy.
- 35:37Speaker 3: And it was no surprise to me. It was no
- 35:40Speaker 3: surprise to any of our family.
- 35:42Speaker 1: The police had the dreadful task of informing Pricey's family.
- 35:46Speaker 1: They spoke to his son, Jonathan, but no-one knew how
- 35:50Speaker 1: to tell 14-year-old Rebecca... She read the horrendous details in
- 35:55Speaker 1: a newspaper.
- 35:58Speaker 13: I just asked my mum if it was true. She
- 36:00Speaker 13: said yes. I just laid on the floor for about
- 36:03Speaker 13: three hours and couldn't move. I was just so sick. Sick, that's, yeah,
- 36:08Speaker 13: I was just so sick. Just wanted to vomit. I just, yeah,
- 36:11Speaker 13: couldn't believe it.
- 36:13Speaker 1: For the next six days, Catherine was at Musselbrook and
- 36:17Speaker 1: Maitland hospitals. She claimed to have no knowledge of the
- 36:20Speaker 1: monstrous crime she had committed. But two things would lead
- 36:25Speaker 1: to her undoing. Greed and the testimony from one of
- 36:29Speaker 1: those closest to her. Catherine Knight stabbed her lover 37 times.
- 36:39Speaker 1: She skinned, beheaded and cooked parts of him. She then
- 36:44Speaker 1: took some pills to make it look like she'd tried
- 36:46Speaker 1: to take her own life. Detective Sergeant Bob Wells first
- 36:51Speaker 1: interviewed Catherine at Maitland Hospital just a few days after
- 36:55Speaker 1: the murder.
- 36:56Speaker 2: Do you recall Pricey being in the bed? I can't
- 36:59Speaker 2: remember anything.
- 37:02Speaker 4: Do you recall yourself going to bed?
- 37:08Speaker 2: Faintly.
- 37:10Speaker 1: Although she claims to have no memory of the night
- 37:12Speaker 1: of Pricey's death, she did remember stabbing him six months earlier.
- 37:18Speaker 14: Once Pricey got off the phone He started on me
- 37:22Speaker 14: and I was around washing up and it could have
- 37:26Speaker 14: been a fork, a spoon or anything in my hand.
- 37:28Speaker 13: It was a knife that cut your meal with and
- 37:31Speaker 13: I aimed it at him and it got him.
- 37:35Speaker 14: He was leaning closer than what I thought and my
- 37:40Speaker 14: eyesight was bad at that time. I've only had new
- 37:41Speaker 14: glasses since then.
- 37:44Speaker 7: You had this notion that Catherine Knight might have been
- 37:46Speaker 7: the most evil woman to ever walk the planet. You
- 37:49Speaker 7: didn't want to walk into the same room as her.
- 37:50Speaker 7: You didn't want to set eyes on her. But what
- 37:53Speaker 7: was most surprising was when you did see her, just
- 37:56Speaker 7: how terribly ordinary she looked. She could have been a librarian.
- 38:00Speaker 7: If you walked past her in the supermarket, you wouldn't
- 38:02Speaker 7: have thought.
- 38:02Speaker 2: Twice of it. She was a very ordinary-looking woman.
- 38:08Speaker 7: They showed the video of the crime scene in court,
- 38:11Speaker 7: and it's perhaps the most horrific video.
- 38:14Speaker 2: you would ever wish to see.
- 38:15Speaker 7: It's just unimaginable what the police saw that day and
- 38:19Speaker 7: what was recorded on that video. The skin looked like
- 38:25Speaker 7: a wetsuit. It took you a while to work out
- 38:27Speaker 7: what it was. It was hanging on a butcher's hook
- 38:29Speaker 7: in the doorway. It had all come off in one piece.
- 38:34Speaker 7: Probably the worst bit of the video was when they
- 38:36Speaker 7: went to the stove in the kitchen and you see
- 38:38Speaker 7: the gloved hand of a forensic policeman take the lid
- 38:41Speaker 7: off the pot on the top of the stove. And
- 38:43Speaker 7: inside it's Price's head staring back up at the camera.
- 38:49Speaker 10: That to me is Cathy showing her ultimate power.
- 38:56Speaker 4: I've suffered a nervous breakdown in relation to my involvement
- 39:02Speaker 4: in this matter. I know that it had a huge
- 39:05Speaker 4: impact on the officers that day. Although Catherine had displayed
- 39:10Speaker 4: this bizarre behaviour, committed this absolutely shocking and horrific crime,
- 39:17Speaker 4: that through the tests that those psychiatrists carried out, they
- 39:20Speaker 4: believed that she was not suffering from any form of
- 39:23Speaker 4: mental illness.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Further evidence to support she was of sound mind was
- 39:29Speaker 1: discovered by John Price's solicitor, who noticed money had been
- 39:33Speaker 1: withdrawn from Price's account the night he was killed.
- 39:38Speaker 4: Catherine had gone and driven some substantial distance to the
- 39:41Speaker 4: township of Musselbrook, where she withdrew $ 1, 000 from John Price's
- 39:46Speaker 4: account bank account by way of using his key card.
- 39:57Speaker 4: And then after all that, returning to the crime scene.
- 40:01Speaker 5: She was trying to plead insanity and she told her
- 40:03Speaker 5: brother that she's going to kill Pricey.
- 40:05Speaker 13: She said, I'm going to kill him and she said,
- 40:06Speaker 13: I'm going to get away with it.
- 40:08Speaker 5: She said, I'm going to do it in the way
- 40:09Speaker 5: to make him think.
- 40:10Speaker 13: That I'm crazy.
- 40:14Speaker 5: And her brother had actually made a statement against her
- 40:18Speaker 5: about her saying that.
- 40:20Speaker 13: She told him three weeks before she murdered Dad.
- 40:25Speaker 10: David rang me and he said, you know, she's finally
- 40:29Speaker 10: done it. And I said, how do you feel about that?
- 40:33Speaker 10: He said, Sandy, I just cannot believe that it was
- 40:37Speaker 10: not me.
- 40:40Speaker 1: On 18 October 2001, Catherine Knight pleaded guilty to murdering
- 40:44Speaker 1: John Price. She was sentenced to life imprisonment.
- 40:49Speaker 5: I don't know, for some reason, I just can't seem
- 40:53Speaker 5: to hate her. I can't feel the hate. But a
- 40:56Speaker 5: lot of my friends have always said to me that's
- 40:58Speaker 5: a good thing, that that's a lot of my dad
- 41:02Speaker 5: inside me because dad was how dad was.
- 41:05Speaker 13: He was, he didn't hate anybody. And he used to
- 41:07Speaker 13: say to me, babe, just be happy. Just be happy.
- 41:09Speaker 13: Just be happy.
- 41:13Speaker 16: I can remember asking her sister, Joy, had she been
- 41:17Speaker 16: to see Catherine and I think at that point in
- 41:20Speaker 16: time she'd been twice, but Catherine had said to her
- 41:24Speaker 16: that she didn't want visitors and that she was happy
- 41:28Speaker 16: where she was because she felt safe now.
- 41:32Speaker 4: I'd never been tempted to visit Catherine Knight in prison.
- 41:38Speaker 4: I've spent most of.
- 41:38Speaker 6: My time.
- 41:41Speaker 4: Through treatment trying to forget about the actions of Catherine Knight, basically.
- 41:50Speaker 7: With all of the partners that survived Catherine Knight, whenever
- 41:53Speaker 7: I sat down to talk to them, here were tough men,
- 41:56Speaker 7: calloused hands, cigarettes, rough faces, rough talking. All three at
- 42:01Speaker 7: one stage or another burst into tears as they described
- 42:04Speaker 7: the violence they suffered at her hands. They were genuine
- 42:08Speaker 7: victims of domestic violence. No matter how hard their outer shell,
- 42:13Speaker 7: they were rattled by what Catherine had done to them
- 42:15Speaker 7: and they remained rattled for decades later.
- 42:19Speaker 8: So could it be possible that Catherine Knight was sane
- 42:22Speaker 8: when she committed this murder? How could someone in their
- 42:25Speaker 8: right mind do something so completely deranged? Well, the fact
- 42:30Speaker 8: is that Catherine was not insane when she butchered John Price.
- 42:34Speaker 8: She planned what she was doing, she knew right from wrong,
- 42:37Speaker 8: and there were no voices telling her to kill him.
- 42:40Speaker 8: She was coldly lucid throughout the murder and dismemberment. And
- 42:45Speaker 8: not only was she in her right mind, She was
- 42:47Speaker 8: having one of the best times of her life. So
- 42:51Speaker 8: if she's not mad, is Catherine just bad? Is she
- 42:54Speaker 8: some kind of evil monster, completely alien to the rest
- 42:57Speaker 8: of us? Catherine Knight's personality is best summed up in
- 43:01Speaker 8: one word, psychopath. She's ruthless, self-serving, incapable of feeling guilt
- 43:08Speaker 8: and dangerous until the day she dies.
- 43:24Speaker 7: For the first time, the real story behind Australia's notorious Mr.
- 43:29Speaker 9: Asia.
- 43:30Speaker 2: He was a vicious little bugger. How he got beautiful
- 43:33Speaker 2: young women under his spell.
- 43:34Speaker 3: He had something about him that people were attracted to.
- 43:37Speaker 2: The corpse he had under his thumb.
- 43:39Speaker 14: Goodbye the New South Wales and the Queensland police for
- 43:42Speaker 14: a hamburger.
- 43:43Speaker 2: And why most of his friends ended belly up. A
- 43:46Speaker 2: lot more people disappeared than we had found out about.
- 43:48Speaker 2: The true story of Terry Clark. Seven's new Beyond the
- 43:51Speaker 2: Dark Lands. Next Monday, 9.30.