Latest / Reformed Thinking / The Glory of the Gospel (John 3:16) | John Owen
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- 0:00Welcome back to Reformed Thinking.
- 0:02I'm so glad you're here with us today.
- 0:03Thanks. It's really good to be here.
- 0:06We have a session ahead of us that I've been looking forward
- 0:09to for a long time. You know, sometimes in theology,
- 0:12there are texts that just feel like battlegrounds.
- 0:15Oh, yeah. Places where lines are drawn,
- 0:16flags are planted and, well, let's be honest, voices get
- 0:20raised. And today we are walking right
- 0:23into the center of that battlefield.
- 0:25We really are. Battlefield is the right word
- 0:27for it. We're dealing with high stakes
- 0:28today. The High We are doing a deep
- 0:31dive into perhaps the most famous verse in the entire
- 0:35Bible. John 3.16.
- 0:37Right. For God so loved the world that
- 0:39he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him
- 0:43should not perish, but have everlasting life.
- 0:46Now for most people, that's just the the Sunday school verse.
- 0:49It's the verse you see on the bottom of a fast food cup.
- 0:51It provides comfort. But in the world of rigorous
- 0:54theology, especially when we talk about the extent of the
- 0:57atonement, this verse is often weaponized.
- 1:00It is. It's frequently the very first
- 1:03verse cited by those who oppose the Reformed doctrine of
- 1:07particular redemption, or what we commonly call limited
- 1:10atonement. The argument is usually
- 1:12presented as a well as a slam dunk.
- 1:15The text says world. The text says whosoever,
- 1:19therefore Christ must have died for every single human being
- 1:23without exception, right? And the Calvinist view that
- 1:26Christ died specifically for the election, They say that must be
- 1:29false. Spot on.
- 1:31It's often treated as this Goliath sword intended to just
- 1:34cut off the head of reformed theology.
- 1:36That's the intention. The whole idea is how can you
- 1:39limit the atonement when the Bible clearly says world?
- 1:42But today we're going to do something fascinating.
- 1:44We are. We're taking that sword and we
- 1:46are handing it to one of the greatest Puritan minds, whoever
- 1:49lived John Owen. Yes, we are looking at his
- 1:52masterwork, The Death of Death and the Death of Christ,
- 1:55specifically book 4 chapter 2. Such a dense book.
- 1:58It is, and what Owen intends to do here is stunning.
- 2:01He doesn't just defend the reform view against John 3 point
- 2:04Fence. Team No.
- 2:05He goes on the offensive. Right.
- 2:06He argues that if you actually read the text, that you look at
- 2:10the grammar, the logic, the context.
- 2:12John 3.16 is actually a proof text for particular redemption.
- 2:17That is a huge claim to take the favorite verse of the universe
- 2:20list or the Armenian and say, actually this proves my point,
- 2:23not yours. It's bold, very bold.
- 2:26So the goal today for you listening is to walk through
- 2:29Owens exposition with us. We are going to dismantle the
- 2:33common arguments, define what world and Love Actually mean in
- 2:36this context, and see if Owen can really prove that this verse
- 2:40is about God's special effectual love for his people.
- 2:44It's a heavy task, but Owen is up to it and before he even gets
- 2:48into the the nitty gritty of the Greek or the logic, he starts
- 2:51with a very interesting posture. Yeah, the cautions.
- 2:54Right. He gives 3 cautions.
- 2:55Yeah. And I think these are vital for
- 2:56us to hear because they set the tone for how we should handle
- 2:59theological controversy. I noticed that when reading the
- 3:02source, he doesn't just jump into the fight, he seems almost
- 3:04reluctant. What's that first caution he
- 3:06gives? His first caution is a real
- 3:08reluctance to even air these heresies, he says.
- 3:12Essentially, I would rather these objections be buried than
- 3:16brought to light. Wow.
- 3:17Yeah, he feels that airing arguments against God's truth,
- 3:21even to refute them, is a bit like handling radioactive
- 3:24material or a virus. You only bring it out because
- 3:28you absolutely have to. That is such a different
- 3:30attitude than we see today. Today, everyone wants a hot
- 3:33take. Everyone wants to debate online.
- 3:36Oh, for sure. But Owen is saying, look, these
- 3:38errors deface the truth of God. I wouldn't even mention them if
- 3:41men weren't already lying in wait to deceive you.
- 3:43He's doing this as a necessary duty, not because he enjoys the
- 3:46fight. Precisely.
- 3:47It's an antidote. You don't take an antidote for
- 3:49fun, you take it because there's poison in the system.
- 3:52And that leads to his second caution, which is so critical
- 3:55for our discussion today. He warns the reader not to be
- 3:58swayed by the sound of words. The sound of words.
- 4:02That's a fascinating phrase. It almost feels modern, doesn't
- 4:05it? It reminds me of sound bites in
- 4:07the media today. We hear a buzzword and we
- 4:10immediately react before we even know the context.
- 4:13Is that what Owen is getting at? That is spot on.
- 4:15Owen is warning against what we might call theological knee jerk
- 4:18reactions. When you hear the word world,
- 4:22your brain, especially your modern democratic, egalitarian
- 4:25brain, immediately paints a picture.
- 4:28A very specific picture. Yes, you see a globe, you see
- 4:31holding hands, you see every single person.
- 4:34Where I see that old Coca-Cola commercial, I'd like to teach
- 4:37the world to sing. Yes, that exact vibe.
- 4:39You have that emotional resonance and no one says stop
- 4:42that resonance. That's just noise.
- 4:44That's the sound of the word hitting your eardrums and your
- 4:47cultural conditioning. It is not the meaning of the
- 4:50text. That's incredibly hard to turn
- 4:51off, though. We are so conditioned to think
- 4:53that our immediate intuition about a word is the actual
- 4:56definition. It's very hard and that's why
- 4:58Owen treats it as a discipline, he says.
- 5:00We have to hold that sound at Bay.
- 5:02We have to suspend our emotional reaction until we've done the
- 5:05forensic work. The hard work.
- 5:07Right, we have to weigh the scripture, look at the grammar,
- 5:10look at the neighbors of that word in the text.
- 5:12If you let the sound rule you, you aren't doing theology,
- 5:17you're just reacting. That makes a lot of sense.
- 5:19It's the difference between reading a headline and reading
- 5:22the actual legal contract. The headline gives you a vibe,
- 5:26the contract gives you the reality.
- 5:28That's a great analogy. And his third caution.
- 5:30Focus on the stress of the controversy.
- 5:33Ignore the swelling words of vanity.
- 5:35Ignore the rhetoric. 0 in on exactly where the difference
- 5:39lies. Cut through the fluff.
- 5:41Yes, don't get distracted by emotional appeals or straw men.
- 5:45What is the logical core of the disagreement?
- 5:48That is where we have to live for the next hour.
- 5:50OK, let's get to that core. Let's look at how the opponents
- 5:53and in Owens day he is dealing with Universalists and
- 5:56Armenians, how they set up their trap using John 3.1 steam.
- 6:01They have a very specific way of using Scripture, don't they?
- 6:03They do. Owen calls it the Scripture
- 6:05Perverted approach. He notes that the adversaries
- 6:08usually group texts into 3 categories to attack the
- 6:11reformed view. First texts that mention the
- 6:14world. Second text that mention all in
- 6:16every man, and third texts that seem to imply Christ died for
- 6:20those who eventually perish. And today, our laser focus is on
- 6:24that first category, the argument from the word world.
- 6:27It seems so simple on the surface.
- 6:29God loved the world. The world is everybody.
- 6:31Therefore God loves everybody. Boom, case closed.
- 6:34That's the syllogism Owen attacks, and he attacks it with
- 6:38brutal logic. He breaks it down into a formal
- 6:41argument to show why it is, as he puts it, sophistically false.
- 6:45Let's walk through that because I think you listening might be
- 6:48thinking, well, that logic sounds pretty sound to me.
- 6:50This is where Owen stops being just a theologian and becomes a
- 6:53master logician. He really does he.
- 6:55Accuses the opposition of committing a very specific
- 6:58logical crime. The fallacy of 4 terms.
- 7:00Right. And to understand this we need
- 7:02to go back to basic logic. A standard syllogism is like a
- 7:06bridge with three pillars. A leads to BB leads to C
- 7:10Therefore A leads to C You have 3 terms connecting the argument.
- 7:14Give us the opponent's argument first so we can see the bridge
- 7:17they are trying to build. Their argument goes like this.
- 7:20Premise one, God loved the world.
- 7:23Premise 2. The world contains every man
- 7:27conclusion. Therefore, God loved every man.
- 7:31OK, I'm listening. That sounds airtight on the
- 7:33surface. Where is the crack in the
- 7:35foundation? The crack is in the word world.
- 7:39In a valid argument, the middle term must mean the same thing in
- 7:42both premises, but here they've switched the meaning.
- 7:44Switched it how? In the first premise, God loved
- 7:47the world. The word world refers to the
- 7:50objects of God's love, the people.
- 7:53God doesn't love rocks and dirt in a saving way, so world here
- 7:56means inhabitants. OK, so world equals people in
- 8:00the first sentence. Correct.
- 8:01Now look at the second premise. The world contains every man.
- 8:04Does the people contain every man?
- 8:05No, that doesn't make grammatical sense.
- 8:07In the second premise, they're using world to mean the
- 8:10habitable Earth, the container, the globe.
- 8:14I see it's a bait and switch. They're using the word world to
- 8:17mean people in the first half and planet Earth in the
- 8:19second-half, and then trying to glue them together.
- 8:22Precisely. They've introduced a fourth
- 8:24term. Term 1 is God.
- 8:26Term 2 is world as people. Term 3 is world as planet.
- 8:30Term 4 is every man. The bridge collapses.
- 8:34Owen points out that unless you want to argue that Christ died
- 8:37for the fabric of the habitable earth, which he calls a frenzy,
- 8:41the logic fails. There is no true medium
- 8:45connecting the two premises. That is really helpful.
- 8:47It's like saying I put my money in a bank and a bank is the side
- 8:51of a river, therefore I put my money in the side of a river.
- 8:53You use the word bank twice, but you change the definition
- 8:56halfway through. That's a perfect illustration.
- 8:58That is the fallacy of four terms.
- 9:00So Owen says you cannot rely on the container argument.
- 9:03You cannot say because the planet holds everyone, God loves
- 9:06everyone. You have to prove that the word
- 9:08world in John 3.16 specifically refers to every single
- 9:13individual whoever lived. So the argument can't rest on
- 9:16the definition of the physical world, it has to rest on the
- 9:18scriptural usage of the word world.
- 9:21The opponent has to prove that every time the Bible uses the
- 9:23word world, or at least in this specific time, it signifies
- 9:26every single human being who has ever lived.
- 9:28And that is a hill they cannot climb.
- 9:31Owen points out that the assertion that world in
- 9:34Scripture always signifies every man is demonstrably false.
- 9:39I mean, we use this language even today.
- 9:41If I say the whole world watch the World Cup final, do I mean
- 9:44that a hermit in the Amazon rainforest watched it?
- 9:47Do I mean that a newborn baby in Iceland watched it?
- 9:49No, you mean a lot of people from all over the place watched?
- 9:52It right and scripture does this constantly.
- 9:54Owen points a phrases like John 12.19 where the Pharisees say
- 9:59behold the world has gone after him.
- 10:01Did every single person in existence followed Jesus?
- 10:03No, the Pharisees saying it certainly didn't.
- 10:06Or Luke 2.1, a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all
- 10:10the world should be taxed. Did the Aztec Empire get taxed
- 10:13by Rome? Did the Chinese dynasties pay
- 10:15taxes to Caesar? Obviously not.
- 10:17Exactly. Or well, spot on.
- 10:19So world is a flexible term. It can mean the physical earth.
- 10:22It can mean the system of evil. It can mean the gentiles as
- 10:25opposed to the Jews. Can mean a great multitude.
- 10:27It rarely, if ever, means every single individual human being
- 10:30without exception. So here is the challenge Owen
- 10:33lays down. If the word world is ambiguous,
- 10:37if it can mean everybody but it can also mean some people, then
- 10:41the adversary can't just point to the word and declare victory.
- 10:44No, they can't. They have to prove that in this
- 10:46specific instance in John 3.16 it signifies every man, woman
- 10:51and child whoever lived from Adam to the last man.
- 10:55And since the word itself is flexible, we have to look at the
- 10:57context. We have to analyze the intent of
- 11:00the passage. We have to figure out what John
- 11:02actually meant by looking at the other words he uses.
- 11:05And to do that, we have to look at the other words in the verse.
- 11:07We have to define love. What does it mean that God so
- 11:10loved? This is one of my favorite parts
- 11:12of Owen's argument. He basically sets up two
- 11:14paraphrases. Yes, he says.
- 11:16OK, let's read John 3.16 the way the universalist understands it,
- 11:19and then let's read it the way the Reformed theologian
- 11:21understands it. It's a brilliant exercise when
- 11:23you hear them side by side. The contrast is stark.
- 11:27Let's look at the Universalist paraphrase first.
- 11:30This is how you have to interpret the verse if you
- 11:31believe world means everyone and love is universal.
- 11:35Let's hear it. It would go something like this
- 11:38God so loved, meaning God had a natural inclination or a wish
- 11:43for the good of all the world. Meaning Adam and all his
- 11:47posterity, including those arguably already in hell at the
- 11:50time Christ spoke, gave his Son. Meaning he caused him to
- 11:54Incarnate, but without a specific resolution to save
- 11:58anyone in particular just to make salvation possible.
- 12:01That whosoever. This is meant to divide people,
- 12:04to separate those who can do it from those who can't and should
- 12:07not perish, meaning they might escape death, though God knows
- 12:10many won't. When you put it that way, well,
- 12:12it sounds weak. It sounds like a God who is
- 12:13crossing his fingers. I really hope this works out.
- 12:16It strips the verse of all its muscle.
- 12:18Now listen to Owens Reformed paraphrase.
- 12:20God so loved meaning a peculiar, transcendent, unchangeable act
- 12:24of His will, the world meaning lost men of all sorts, Jews and
- 12:28Gentiles, who He peculiarly chose, gave His Son, meaning He
- 12:33approved Him to be an all sufficient Savior to effectually
- 12:35bring them to glory. That whosoever meaning this
- 12:39declares the person's intended, it describes the believers who
- 12:42will be revealed should not perish, meaning they will
- 12:45certainly obtain the fruit of this love, which is eternal
- 12:48life. That is a completely different
- 12:50God. 1 is a well wisher, the other is a savior. 1 is hoping
- 12:54the other is achieving. That's the core difference, and
- 12:57Owen spends a significant amount of time dismantling that first
- 13:00definition of love, the idea that God's love is just a
- 13:03natural propensity or a general kindness to all mankind.
- 13:06Let's impact that because I think many people operate with
- 13:09that definition. I think, well, God is love, so
- 13:11naturally he loves everyone. He wants everyone to be saved.
- 13:13He's doing his best. Why does Owen reject that
- 13:16natural affection model? He has several devastating
- 13:19arguments against it. Owen asks you to follow that
- 13:22logic to its end. If God have a natural burning
- 13:25desire for the salvation of Judas, and Judas ends up in
- 13:28hell, what just happened to God's desire?
- 13:31It was thwarted. It was frustrated.
- 13:32Yes, and a frustrated God is an imperfect God.
- 13:36This is the argument from imperfection.
- 13:38Owen argues that if God has a natural propensity toward a
- 13:41specific good, the salvation of soul, and that good is not
- 13:45achieved, then God is eternally unhappy.
- 13:48He is eternally disappointed. He is a God who is constantly
- 13:52missing the March of his own desires.
- 13:54That implies weakness. It implies that God is subject
- 13:57to the will of man. If I want something and can't
- 13:59get it, I'm limited. If God wants something and can't
- 14:01get it, he is limited. Owen calls this a validity, a
- 14:05weak, ineffectual wish, and he says we cannot attribute
- 14:08validity to the Almighty. The God of the Bible doesn't
- 14:10wish, he decrees. He acts if he sets his love on
- 14:14you. That love is an unstoppable
- 14:15force, not a sentimental hope. That connects back to the Wisdom
- 14:18argument too, right? The argument from Wisdom.
- 14:20It does. Think about it, if God loves
- 14:23these people enough to send his son to die for them, but his
- 14:27wisdom stops him from actually saving them, isn't there a
- 14:30conflict in God? Or flip it around.
- 14:33Is it wise to pay the ultimate price, the death of the Son, for
- 14:36something you know you won't get?
- 14:37Yeah, if I pay $1,000,000 for a house that I know burned down
- 14:41yesterday, I'm not loving. I'm foolish.
- 14:43Precisely, Owen says. If God has foreknowledge, which
- 14:47he does, he knows who will perish.
- 14:49He knows Cain is lost if he sends his son to pay the
- 14:52infinite price for Cain, knowing Cain will never receive it.
- 14:55That is an irrational transaction, right?
- 14:57Owen calls a desire that cannot be prosecuted A brutish
- 15:00affection. It's acting on instinct without
- 15:03wisdom. God doesn't act irrationally.
- 15:05If he pays the price, he secures the purchase.
- 15:07Then there is the argument from Scripture.
- 15:10The Bible doesn't describe God's mercy as a natural reflex, does
- 15:13it? No, it doesn't.
- 15:15The Scripture says in Romans 9 he has mercy on whom he will
- 15:18have mercy. It is a free act of the will.
- 15:20It's discerning. It's selective.
- 15:22If mercy were just God's natural state, like he coming off of
- 15:25fire, then he would have to be merciful to everyone equally.
- 15:29Which brings us to the argument from equality.
- 15:32Right. If this love is natural, it must
- 15:34be equal to all. God would have to love those in
- 15:37hell as much as those in heaven. He would have to love Judas as
- 15:39much as Peter. In fact, he would have to love
- 15:41the fallen angels as much as humans because they are also his
- 15:44creatures. Right, he made them too.
- 15:46But we know he doesn't. He provided no redemption for
- 15:49demons. So clearly God saving love is
- 15:52discriminatory. It is a choice.
- 15:55So if love in just 3.16 isn't this weak general wisp, what is
- 15:59it? Owen zooms in on that little
- 16:00word. So Kutos in the Greek God so
- 16:04loved. That word is the hinge.
- 16:05It indicates degree. It indicates intensity.
- 16:08Owen argues this versus describing the most eminent,
- 16:10transcendent love possible. Think about the evidence given
- 16:14for this love. What is the proof of the love?
- 16:16The gift he gave His only begotten Son.
- 16:19Yes, he didn't give a servant, he didn't give an Angel, he
- 16:22didn't give the stars or the riches of creation.
- 16:25He gave his Isaac his only one. Owen says this is the highest
- 16:29possible testimony of love. Now here are the logic.
- 16:33If this is the greatest love God has.
- 16:36Then it can't be common to those who perish.
- 16:37You've got it. If God gives his greatest love
- 16:40to a man who ends up in hell, then what is left for the man in
- 16:43heaven? Did the man in heaven get a
- 16:45greater than greatest love? No, that doesn't make.
- 16:48Sense No. The love in John 3.16 is the
- 16:51peak, it's the summit. Therefore, the recipients of
- 16:54this love must be the ones who actually received the benefit of
- 16:57it. That is such a heavy point.
- 16:59If God so loved the reprobate but sends them to hell, then his
- 17:03so love doesn't actually save. It turns the love of God into
- 17:06something impotent. It turns the death of Christ
- 17:09into a gesture rather than a rescue mission.
- 17:12It leads to the terrifying conclusion that the love of God
- 17:15is not enough, that you need God's love plus your own effort
- 17:18or your own smarts, your own free will, to actually make it
- 17:20work. And Owen says no.
- 17:22Right, Owen says no. The purpose of the giving is
- 17:24that they might not perish. If God gives a son to prevent
- 17:28perishing and they do perish, God has failed.
- 17:31But if God gives a son to the elect and they do not perish,
- 17:35then the intention matches the result.
- 17:37So we have established that the love here is a special effectual
- 17:40saving love. But we still have that stubborn
- 17:43word world. If Owen believes this verse
- 17:46refers to the elect, why on earth did the apostle John use
- 17:49the word world? Why didn't he just write God so
- 17:52loved the elect? It would have saved us 2000
- 17:54years of arguments. It's a fair question, and Owen
- 17:57gives us four or five very specific reasons why the Holy
- 18:00Spirit chose the word world, and none of them imply every single
- 18:04human being. What's the first reason?
- 18:06The first is to show the nature of the condition of the elect
- 18:09before God saves us. What are we?
- 18:10We aren't angels, we aren't spirits.
- 18:12We are of the world. We are earthly, lost, miserable,
- 18:15sinful. Calling the elect the world
- 18:18highlights the grace of God. He loved us even when we were
- 18:21world. It highlights our unworthiness.
- 18:24That is beautiful. It's like saying God love the
- 18:26trash heap. He doesn't mean he loves every
- 18:28piece of trash. He means he loved people who
- 18:31belong to the trash heap to pull them out.
- 18:33Spot on. Secondly, Owen argues it's to
- 18:37distinguish the object of love from the fallen angels.
- 18:40Hebrews 2.1 Zig says he doesn't give hell to angels but to the
- 18:45offspring of Abraham. By using the term world, he is
- 18:48flagging that this redemption is for mankind, the inhabitants of
- 18:51the distinct terrestrial sphere, not the celestial sphere of the
- 18:55demons. OK, that's a theological
- 18:56distinction, but I think the third reason is the most
- 18:58historically relevant right, the context of Nicodemus.
- 19:01This is crucial. We forget how Jewish the context
- 19:03was. The Jews believed they were the
- 19:05people and everyone else was fueled for the fire.
- 19:07They had a saying that the Gentiles are created to keep
- 19:10hell burning. For a Jew like Nicodemus, the
- 19:12Messiah was their Messiah. He was coming to save Israel and
- 19:16crush the nations. So when John writes, God loved
- 19:19the world. He is shattering that Jewish
- 19:21exclusivity. He's saying no, Nicodemus, God's
- 19:24love isn't just the lineage of Abraham, it is for the world.
- 19:29It signifies that the elect are scattered among all nations,
- 19:32tongues and tribes. It's not God loved Israel, it's
- 19:35God loved the world, meaning the elect are on from every corner
- 19:38of the globe. That aligns perfectly with
- 19:40Revelation, where we see the multitude from every tribe and
- 19:43tongue. They are a world of people, yes.
- 19:46And Owen provides scriptural precedents where world clearly
- 19:49means the elect or believers. He doesn't just make this up.
- 19:52Look at John 4.42. The Samaritans called Jesus the
- 19:55savior of the world. Well, is he the savior of those
- 19:57he doesn't save? No, he's the savior of the elect
- 20:00world. Or John 6.51, I give my flesh
- 20:03for the life of the world. Does everyone have eternal life?
- 20:05No, only the elect have life. Romans 4.13 is another one.
- 20:10He lists Abraham heir of the world.
- 20:12That obviously means the faithful, not every Pagan.
- 20:14Right and 2nd Corinthians 5.1 time God was in Christ
- 20:18reconciling the world to Himself.
- 20:20Note the result reconciling. If you are reconciled, you are
- 20:24not an enemy, you are not in hell.
- 20:27So this world that is reconciled must be the world of believers.
- 20:30So positively, world fits the elect perfectly.
- 20:33But Owen also argues negatively. He plays out the scenario.
- 20:37What happens if we insist world means every single person?
- 20:40He says it leads to absurdities. It leads to what we might call
- 20:43the revelation problem. If God loved everyone in the
- 20:46world enough to give his Son for them, why didn't he even reveal
- 20:49Christ to millions of people? Think the vast populations in
- 20:52the Americas or Asia or Africa for thousands of years who never
- 20:57heard the name of Yahweh or Jesus.
- 20:59That is a hard pill to swallow for the universalist.
- 21:01If God so loved the Aztec warrior in 1400 AD that he died
- 21:05for him, why didn't he send a messenger?
- 21:07Why did he let him die in darkness?
- 21:08Right. Owen asks.
- 21:09Well, I love them enough to die, but not love them enough to tell
- 21:12them. It suggests A schizophrenic God.
- 21:15It suggests a God who builds A lifeboat but refuses to tell the
- 21:17drowning passengers where it is. That's not love.
- 21:20And the effectual problem Why love them and yet not give them
- 21:24the power to believe faith is a gift?
- 21:26If God loves everyone, why does he withhold the gift of faith
- 21:30from so many? And the intercession problem.
- 21:32This connects to Romans 8.32. He who did not spare his own
- 21:36Son, but gave him up for us all, how will He not also with Him
- 21:39graciously give us all things? This is a package deal.
- 21:43If God gave the sun for you, He will give you all things, faith,
- 21:47repentance, perseverance, glory. You cannot break the package.
- 21:50You get all of it or none of it? Yes.
- 21:52You can't say God gave the sun for that guy but didn't give him
- 21:55faith. No, if you didn't get faith, he
- 21:57didn't get the sun. That logic is ironclad.
- 21:59It really forces you to choose. Either God gave the sun for
- 22:02everyone and everyone gets all things, which is universalism,
- 22:04or God gave the sun for the elect and they get all things,
- 22:07which is the reformed view, the middle ground.
- 22:09God gave the sun for everyone, but most get nothing.
- 22:11Nothing else breaks the promise of Romans 8.
- 22:14And finally there is the double jeopardy or double payment
- 22:17problem. This touches on justice.
- 22:19If Christ died for the world, meaning everyone, then he paid
- 22:24for the sins of everyone. He paid for the sins of Esau.
- 22:27He paid for the sins of Judas. Right, the dead is cleared.
- 22:30So why are Esau and Judas in hell?
- 22:33They are in hell paying for their sins.
- 22:36But wait, if Christ paid for them and they pay for them
- 22:38again, God is exacting payment twice for the same debt, once
- 22:42from his Son and once from the Sinner.
- 22:44Is that justice? No, that's injustice.
- 22:47If the debt is paid, the prisoner goes free.
- 22:49If the prisoner stays, the debt wasn't paid.
- 22:51Spot on. So, Owen concludes, world cannot
- 22:55mean every single person. It must mean the elect scattered
- 22:58throughout the world. OK, we've handled love, we
- 23:00handled world. Now we have to deal with the
- 23:02mechanism. The whosoever that whosoever
- 23:05believeth in him should not perish.
- 23:07This is the part where the Armenian says, aha, see, it's a
- 23:10condition. Anyone can believe, It's up to
- 23:12you. This is a very common
- 23:13misunderstanding. The Greek phrase is in a pass
- 23:16who piston literally that every believer or that the believing
- 23:211. Owen clarifies that this is not
- 23:24a distributive term meant to divide the world into two camps
- 23:27where God is passively waiting to see who joins which camp.
- 23:30So it's not God saying I've thrown the life preserver into
- 23:33the ocean. I hope someone grabs it.
- 23:34No, Owen argues. The phrase is declarative.
- 23:37It declares the means by which the loved ones, the elect, will
- 23:41be brought to the end, which is eternal life.
- 23:43It explains God's plan. God is saying I love this world
- 23:47of my people and how will I save them?
- 23:49I will save them through faith. So whosoever believes is not a
- 23:52hurdle we have to jump over to get God's love.
- 23:54It's the path God creates for His loved ones to walk on.
- 23:58Precisely, And Owen sets up a dilemma here regarding
- 24:00restriction. Think about it.
- 24:02Does the phrase whosoever believes restrict God's love?
- 24:05Let's trace that out. If you say yes, God only loves
- 24:09those who believe, then universalism fails because God
- 24:13doesn't love the unbelievers. If you say no God loves everyone
- 24:17regardless of belief, then God loves those who perish.
- 24:21And if he loves those who perish, his love is in vain.
- 24:24It is a trap for the opponent. Either God's love is limited to
- 24:27believers, which is our view, or God's love is wasted on people
- 24:30in hell. And Owen takes it a step
- 24:32further. He asks, where does this faith
- 24:34come from? Is faith something we generate
- 24:36on our own? No.
- 24:38Scripture says faith is the gift of God.
- 24:39It's a fruit of the Spirit. So faith is a fruit of this
- 24:42love, not a condition outside of it.
- 24:45God gives the Son so that they may have life.
- 24:47Implicit in that is giving them the means fate to attain it.
- 24:50So the whosoever is not a challenge, it is a promise I
- 24:54have sent my son and the result will be a people who believe.
- 24:57Yes, and look at the intention should not perish.
- 25:00This is the negative purpose clause.
- 25:02If God sent the Son for the world meeting, everyone and his
- 25:05intention was they should not perish, but millions do perish.
- 25:09Then God fails. God fails in his intention.
- 25:12The doctor lost the patient, the rescuer dropped the swimmer.
- 25:16But in the Reformed view, God intended to save the elect the
- 25:19believing world. And do they perish?
- 25:22Never my sheep hear my voice, and I give them eternal life,
- 25:26and they shall never perish. The intention matches the result
- 25:29perfectly. God attempts 100% salvation of
- 25:33His people and He achieves 100% salvation of His people.
- 25:36When you lay it out like that, it really does come down to a
- 25:39comparison of two different views of God.
- 25:42Owen is forcing us to look at the God of the universalist view
- 25:45versus the God of the Bible. Let's weigh them.
- 25:47View a the universalist view. God has a general natural wish
- 25:51for everyone's good. It's a warm fuzzy feeling.
- 25:54He sends Christ to die for everyone, but He leaves the
- 25:56application of that death up to the fickle will of sinful man.
- 25:59Most people never even hear about it.
- 26:01Many who here rejected God's love is fruitless for the
- 26:04majority of humanity, and this is the darkest part.
- 26:07Christ's death pays for sins that are still punished in hell.
- 26:11That's the double jeopardy argument again.
- 26:12It implies God is unjust and that the cross wasn't actually
- 26:15sufficient to save anyone on its own.
- 26:17It needs my YES to activate it. Exactly.
- 26:20It's a tragedy, a loving God, a dying savior, and yet a
- 26:23populated hell. Now compare view B, the own
- 26:27Reformed view. God has a transcendent, special
- 26:31love for his elects, scattered in all nations.
- 26:33He doesn't just wish them well, He decrees their rescue.
- 26:36He sends Christ to effectively redeem them, to actually buy
- 26:39them back. He grants them the faith to
- 26:41believe they inevitably receive eternal life.
- 26:44No drop of Christ's blood is wasted.
- 26:46Every sin paid for is a sin forgiven. 1 is a potential
- 26:49savior, the other is an actual savior.
- 26:51And no one reinforces this with that Greek word for love,
- 26:54agapao. He says it signifies validate,
- 26:57elects it to love so as to rest in that love.
- 26:59It is satisfied love, a completed love.
- 27:02This cannot coexist with eternal wrath against the same person.
- 27:05You can't rest in love over someone you are casting into the
- 27:07lake of fire. It changes the whole texture of
- 27:10the verse. God so loved the world is not a
- 27:13desperate plea, it is a victory shout.
- 27:16It's God saying I have loved my people from every tribe and I
- 27:19have sent my son to secure them and they will not perish.
- 27:23It makes the verse a rock for the believer.
- 27:25This is the ultimate comfort. If you interpret this verse the
- 27:28Armenian way, God's love is a maybe it's I love you provided
- 27:32you do your part. But if you interpret it Owens
- 27:34way, God's love is a certainty. I love you and I've done the
- 27:38part that guarantees you will be mine.
- 27:40That is the So what for you listening.
- 27:42If you are a believer, this text tells you that the love God has
- 27:45for you is the same love that sent Christ.
- 27:48It is rock solid. It is effectual.
- 27:50It isn't waiting on you to validate it.
- 27:51It's the force that validated you and.
- 27:53That's why Owen fought so hard for this.
- 27:55It wasn't just to win a debate. It was to secure the assurance
- 27:58of the Saints. If God's love can fail for the
- 28:00world, it can fail for you. But if God's love for the world,
- 28:04the elect, is unfailing, then you are safe.
- 28:06As we wrap up this deep dive, I want to leave you with a
- 28:09thought. We started by saying John 3.16
- 28:12is often used as a weapon against reformed theology, but
- 28:15after walking through Owen's arguments, it feels more like a
- 28:17fortress for reformed theology. It absolutely is.
- 28:21It is a text about the magnitude of God's special love.
- 28:24It defines the world not by geography but by grace, the
- 28:28chosen out of the mass of fallen humanity.
- 28:31And here is a final, provocative thought for you to chew on as
- 28:33you go about your week. We often hear people say they
- 28:36prefer a God who loves everyone even if he cannot save everyone,
- 28:39over a God who chooses to save some.
- 28:41They think the universal wish is more loving.
- 28:43But ask yourself this, If we accept that God's love in John
- 28:473.16 is universal but ineffectual for many, do we
- 28:50unknowingly strip God of his omnipotence and his wisdom?
- 28:53Is a God who tries to save and fails a God who is eternally
- 28:57defeated by the stubbornness of the human heart actually a God
- 29:00worthy of worship? Or is he just a very nice, very
- 29:03disappointed observer? That is the question.
- 29:05A God who saves or a God who hopes?
- 29:08Owen points us to the God who saves.
- 29:10Thank you for joining us on this deep dive into the mind of John
- 29:13Owen. We hope this challenges you,
- 29:15encourages you, and maybe makes you read John 3.16 with fresh
- 29:18eyes. Until next time.
- 29:20Keep thinking goodbye.