Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Independent Member for Araluen Robyn Lambley is concerned about the tax payer dollars that have already been spent on the stalled Sea Dragon project
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And we know that this situation, as I'm sure plenty
- 0:03Speaker 1: of you have probably heard about Buy Now and discussed
- 0:06Speaker 1: on the week that was on Friday, Projects Sea Dragon, well,
- 0:10Speaker 1: it has stalled. Seafarms has conceded that Projects Sea Dragon,
- 0:14Speaker 1: the world's largest prawn farm, located on leg Une Station,
- 0:17Speaker 1: about three hundred and forty k's southwest of Darwin, it's
- 0:21Speaker 1: not viable in its current form and has recommended against
- 0:24Speaker 1: proceeding now. The Northern Territory government, as plenty of you
- 0:27Speaker 1: will know, had committed fifty six million dollars to upgrading
- 0:31Speaker 1: three roads to support the project, including about seventeen point
- 0:35Speaker 1: five million dollars to provide year round access to a
- 0:38Speaker 1: remote road between Kuananara and the farm in the remote northwest.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line to talk more about
- 0:45Speaker 1: the concerns around that taxpayer dollars being spent prior to
- 0:49Speaker 1: the project getting underway is the Independent Member.
- 0:52Speaker 2: For Ara lun Robin Lamley. Good morning to you, Robin.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Robin. What are your concerns in the space?
- 1:02Speaker 3: Katie? I think that this has been managed very badly.
- 1:06Speaker 3: I mean, the whole idea of the world's largest braw
- 1:10Speaker 3: and farm is exciting and obviously people got exploded, sting
- 1:14Speaker 3: the Chief Minister, and I don't blame him for that,
- 1:18Speaker 3: but I think if you go through the history of
- 1:21Speaker 3: this over the last couple of years, there's lots of
- 1:23Speaker 3: comments about how it was it was bordering on too big,
- 1:29Speaker 3: a little bit unrealistic. Things just didn't stack up. There
- 1:32Speaker 3: were a lot of there was quite a bit of
- 1:34Speaker 3: commentary around the fact that this was a great idea
- 1:39Speaker 3: if they can pull it off, but the big question
- 1:41Speaker 3: was if, and I just find it astounding that the
- 1:44Speaker 3: government didn't do their due diligence, didn't do a proper investigation,
- 1:50Speaker 3: hold back on investing millions and millions of taxpayers money
- 1:55Speaker 3: on this project before they know they should have done
- 2:01Speaker 3: it properly. Seventeen and a half million dollars just on
- 2:04Speaker 3: the access road between Cunninara and the farm, that lagoon
- 2:08Speaker 3: station where this proposed town time was supposed to go.
- 2:12Speaker 3: I mean, that's money that could have been spent on
- 2:15Speaker 3: so many other things. Katie. I'm just a called at
- 2:17Speaker 3: how the government has been fire tracked by this. You know,
- 2:24Speaker 3: you can't throw money that isn't yours around in this way.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Well, just not accept and we're talking about a phenomenal
- 2:31Speaker 1: amount of money, I mean fifty six million dollars into
- 2:34Speaker 1: upgrading three roads to support the project, including that seventeen
- 2:38Speaker 1: point five million to provide year round access to that
- 2:41Speaker 1: remote road between Cuninara and the farm in the northwest
- 2:45Speaker 1: Northern Territory. Robin, I don't know how much more sort
- 2:50Speaker 1: of checking off you need to do before investing in
- 2:52Speaker 1: something like this, But should there be you know, should
- 2:56Speaker 1: there be more checking off before we actually invest such
- 2:59Speaker 1: a phenomenal amount of taxpayers dollars into a project before
- 3:03Speaker 1: it gets Underwhy I.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Don't recall anything like this happening before. Certainly during my time, Katie,
- 3:11Speaker 3: you know that there were warning signs back in twenty
- 3:14Speaker 3: twenty June twenty twenty, this company, the Project Sea Dragon
- 3:20Speaker 3: company called sea Farm failed to get a Northern Australian
- 3:25Speaker 3: Infrastructure loan. They failed to secure a NAFE loan. Now
- 3:31Speaker 3: to my mind, that's a warning sign. Why didn't their
- 3:36Speaker 3: proposals stack up to get a nafeline? You know, this
- 3:40Speaker 3: is clearly a big project. They pouted that it would
- 3:44Speaker 3: employ a thousand people, that it would bring in enormous
- 3:48Speaker 3: amounts of revenue for everyone concerned. Why didn't that stack
- 3:53Speaker 3: up two years ago? That was just one alarm bell
- 3:58Speaker 3: that should have resounded in the government's mind. Look, I
- 4:04Speaker 3: just don't know what they were thinking to start building
- 4:07Speaker 3: roads to the tune of fifty six million dollars before
- 4:10Speaker 3: the projects even really got past the first stage of
- 4:15Speaker 3: planning and being funded, is really quite incredible. I read
- 4:20Speaker 3: the ABC an ABC report just prior to coming on air,
- 4:25Speaker 3: and the Wyndham East kimberly Shire president, a guy called
- 4:29Speaker 3: David Menzl, said he wasn't surprised that the project has
- 4:34Speaker 3: been wound back. I mean everyone had a degree of
- 4:37Speaker 3: skepticism around this, apart from the Chief Minister and Eva
- 4:42Speaker 3: Lawler and the Cole Madison, who's still seen the thing
- 4:46Speaker 3: that spending fifty six million dollars of our money in
- 4:49Speaker 3: one of the most remote parts of the Northern Territory
- 4:52Speaker 3: where pretty much not no one goes, particularly north of Kamanara,
- 4:57Speaker 3: to this random property where it was meant to be cited.
- 5:02Speaker 3: They're still saying that it was money well spent. Well,
- 5:04Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I can think of so many different ways
- 5:07Speaker 3: fifty six million dollars could have been spent. Try housing
- 5:10Speaker 3: for once. Yeah, I think for people that are living
- 5:13Speaker 3: an overcrowded squalor well throughout the Northern Territory.
- 5:17Speaker 1: And I know that the Northern Territory Mining and Industry
- 5:20Speaker 1: Minister of Cole Madison this week insisted that the money
- 5:23Speaker 1: was a worthwhile investment in the region, saying that road
- 5:27Speaker 1: funding has gone out in good faith and again I
- 5:29Speaker 1: think that does unlock the region for more economic development
- 5:33Speaker 1: and it does create new and exciting opportunities there.
- 5:37Speaker 2: Robin, does that cut it?
- 5:40Speaker 3: I don't think it cuts it. I mean it's just
- 5:43Speaker 3: in a very very isolated, remote part of the Northern
- 5:47Speaker 3: Territory on the western Australian border. It may in time
- 5:53Speaker 3: be a reasonable investment. But every dollar that a government
- 5:58Speaker 3: spend on behalf of us territory, you know, the people
- 6:03Speaker 3: of the Northern Territory. You've got to look at the
- 6:05Speaker 3: opportunity cost, the economic cost. Is it best spent here
- 6:10Speaker 3: or is it best spent somewhere else? And that fifty
- 6:13Speaker 3: six million dollars could have been better spent in a
- 6:17Speaker 3: myriad of other places throughout the Northern Territory and in
- 6:21Speaker 3: a myriad of other ways. They're just covering themselves off,
- 6:24Speaker 3: this was a bad decision. They were taken by what
- 6:28Speaker 3: must have been a pretty incredible sales pitch. I mean
- 6:32Speaker 3: even the federal government got on board. But you know,
- 6:35Speaker 3: the people with better minds than our politicians and our
- 6:39Speaker 3: leaders were sitting back saying, this doesn't really stack up,
- 6:43Speaker 3: This doesn't make sense. Certainly, the NAIFE, the people that
- 6:47Speaker 3: were presiding over giving loans from the NAFE fund, they
- 6:51Speaker 3: didn't think it stacked up either, obviously. I mean, I'm
- 6:54Speaker 3: probably reading too much into it, but you know, the
- 6:57Speaker 3: warning signs were their, Katie, and I just think it
- 7:00Speaker 3: shows incompetence by this government. They're being led by their nose.
- 7:06Speaker 3: They're being taken by the bright lights and the neon
- 7:09Speaker 3: signs of some people's ability to spin and sell. And
- 7:15Speaker 3: I don't think it's not instilling any confidence in me.
- 7:19Speaker 3: And I think many people will be listening today thinking
- 7:22Speaker 3: what the heck, fifty six million dollars.
- 7:25Speaker 2: It's an awful lot of money and on.
- 7:27Speaker 3: A project that didn't even get to first base. What
- 7:31Speaker 3: were they thinking?
- 7:32Speaker 2: Robin?
- 7:32Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I know that you're also
- 7:36Speaker 1: concerned this week, and we will have to keep it brief,
- 7:38Speaker 1: but you're pretty concerned this week about some ministerial changes
- 7:42Speaker 1: which have happened.
- 7:43Speaker 2: What changes have gone ahead.
- 7:45Speaker 1: I know that Kate Warden's been given an additional portfolio,
- 7:47Speaker 1: but what's happened here?
- 7:50Speaker 3: Well, the thing that relates to us down here in
- 7:53Speaker 3: Central Australia is that our Minister for Central Australia Economic Reconstruction,
- 7:58Speaker 3: Chancey Paig, has lost that portfolio that's been scrapped and
- 8:04Speaker 3: he is now the Minister for Desert Knowledge. And I
- 8:08Speaker 3: think down here at thinking, what on earth is that?
- 8:13Speaker 2: I mean knowledge?
- 8:15Speaker 3: Well, we've got a Desert Knowledge Precinct down here which
- 8:18Speaker 3: was set up almost twenty years ago and it sort
- 8:21Speaker 3: of has never found its legs. It was set up
- 8:24Speaker 3: with great intentions to stimulate economic opportunities in the desert,
- 8:31Speaker 3: set up unique desert industries, support desert people. But why
- 8:37Speaker 3: on earth they've chosen this particular title for Chancey Cake
- 8:41Speaker 3: is really quite intriguing though that we'll find more as
- 8:45Speaker 3: time goes on.
- 8:46Speaker 1: But yeah, thank you, it does sound very peculiar. Well,
- 8:50Speaker 1: let's see what else we can find out. Robin Lanley,
- 8:53Speaker 1: it is always good to catch up with you. I
- 8:54Speaker 1: really appreciate your time this morning.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Maddie. Thanks Katie, thank you,