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S02Ep19 - The Art of Dominance: Why the Best Bulls Lead Without Forcing · The Bull Brotherhood

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What is your fundamental definition of dominance?
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I know we've talked about this a lot. And what's
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the difference between being controlling and
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dominant? Controlling, to me, controlling is
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more of me guiding you physically, sexually,
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and just the whole physical aspect, me controlling
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everything. uh when i say dominance to me dominance
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can mean a whole lot of things dominance can
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mean me getting inside your head um as you guys
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know i love to do you know um yeah i i really
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do it's a power exchange with me in a way you
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know in a way um there's there's there's like
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i don't say it there's And then there's like
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mind dominance or calm dominance, like a calm
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dominance. You know, it's two different things
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with me. But controlling though, controlling
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is all sexual. When I control somebody, this
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is all about when I'm having sex. This podcast
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contains explicit adult content, mature themes,
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If you're not comfortable with frank talk about
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sex, kink, dominance, or emotional power, this
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probably isn't the show for you. But if you're
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ready to step into your masculine edge, and embrace
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a lifestyle that demands mastery, welcome to
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the Brotherhood. Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood
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Podcast, where we talk power, pleasure, and the
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art of dominance in ethical non -monogamy. This
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is not your average lifestyle podcast. This is
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for men who lead, men who master, and men who
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leave a lasting impression. If you're here, you're
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not just curious. You're ready to elevate. So
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to all the bulls, hot wives stags and open -minded
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explorers we see you let's go ladies and gentlemen
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good evening and welcome to another invigorating
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episode of the bull brotherhood podcast i'm the
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man with your plan One third of the podcast team
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known as the Bull Brotherhood. And welcome to
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the Siren of Freedom podcast. I'm Brian Morgan,
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coming at you, a .k .a. the Sigma Male, along
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with the family, the lovely Siren. What's up,
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lady? Hey, Brian. Just looking forward to the
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weekend. I hear you. I hear you. And, of course,
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my brother from another mother, nephew, the whole
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nine yards, the man, Socrates. What's up? What's
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good? What's good, Unc? Excited about this episode.
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I hear you. I hear you. Yeah, this is kind of
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one that you put together, nephew. Ladies and
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gentlemen, tonight we're going to talk about
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the art of dominance in ethical non -monogamy.
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And that's coming from a couple's standpoint
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as well as the bull's standpoint. So this is
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going to be a good one. I really wish we had
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call lines and everything so we could have people
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to call in and talk about this. But we don't.
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So we're going to do the best we can right here
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with the family. So I'm going to turn it over
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to Socrates because he's the one that came up
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with this tonight. So I'm going to let him start
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it off and I join in along with Siren. Yes, sir.
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Yes, sir. So I'm actually reading a book right
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now called The Heart of Dominance. It is a book
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on BDSM and kink and the DSM relationship. And
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I was really thinking about all the principles
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in there. And I was like. You know, Unk teaches
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these principles. And I wouldn't imagine that
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he did any research on kink and BDSM. Have you?
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No, never. Beautiful. Let me say this to you
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and Siren as well as all the family out there
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listening. I have, how would I say, stuck my
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toe in the realm of BDSM and some versions of
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kink. To be honest, I guess I need to be, and
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I know it sounds crazy, but I'm saying it, but
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I need to be kind of schooled a little bit more
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on how it can be more pleasurable to a bull.
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So let's take it away. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm
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excited because you have the psychology down.
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You're a master of it. So it's exciting to be
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able to share that. So really, we're going to
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talk about some of the fundamentals and then
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we can get into the kink world. But in our introduction,
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I really love our introduction. So let me tell
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you guys how I came up with that. Just talking
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to Brian Morgan all the time and talking to brothers
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like him, you know, we really knew early on that
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it was actually my bachelor party that we knew,
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like, okay, we have an understanding. We see
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things similarly. Taking all those things, I
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started putting together all of our values and
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I put them together and I'm not a writer. So
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I actually had Siren work with it. And then I
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went to ChatGBT and I wrote something that was
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the fundamentals of that. And then Mr. Morgan
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came in and tweaked some things and he read that.
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And I just realized today that it says the art
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of dominance in our intro. And I was like, that's
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something we really need to talk about because
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Reading The Heart of Dominance is a great book.
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I'll put the link of that book in the show notes.
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Taught me that, you know, like you said, how
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does the bull enjoy the kink world? A lot of
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people see leather and weird things, people being
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wrapped up in saran wrap or, you know, I do shibari,
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right? And so people being tied up or race playing,
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you know, black man's acting like the slave master,
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all that kind of stuff. You don't need any of
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that to understand the mentality of dominance.
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So let's start with this. What is your fundamental
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definition of dominance? I know we've talked
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about this a lot. And what's the difference between
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being controlling and dominant? Controlling,
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to me, controlling is more of me guiding you
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physically. um, sexually and, and, and just the
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whole physical aspect, me controlling everything.
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Uh, when I say dominance to me, dominance can
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mean a whole lot of things. Dominance can mean
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me getting inside your head. Um, as you guys
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know, I love to do, you know, um, yeah, I really
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do. It's a power exchange with me. In a way,
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there's like, how do I say it? And then there's
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like mind dominance or calm dominance, like a
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calm dominance. You know, it's two different
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things with me. But controlling though, controlling
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is all sexual. When I control somebody, this
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is all about when I'm having sex. That's controlling.
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to me. I'm controlling the act or I'm controlling
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the encounter. I have your body physically. Dominance
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for me is so much more than just the physical.
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Dominance is me getting inside your head. Dominance
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is me getting that emotional aspect, that emotional
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feeling coming out of you. Dominance can mean
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a whole lot of things for me compared to maybe
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another bull. But as I was about to say, though,
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I was going to give you guys like my philosophy.
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We talk about all the dominance. I want to give
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you like, you know, my philosophy. And here again,
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it's going to sound something kind of it's dominance,
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but it's like it's different the way I'm about
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to tell you. But me being invited into a marriage.
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That's like a privilege to me. Do you understand
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what I'm saying? That's like a privilege to me.
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When I go into that, when I meet a couple, the
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first thing, and here again, this is a part of
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dominance too. This is me getting inside their
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head. I am the best listener in the world, all
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right? The best listener in the world. I don't
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say a damn word, but I just sit there and I listen
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and I observe. People think, oh, that's not a
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part of dominance, but it is a part of dominance.
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Here again, I am watching you, okay? I am getting
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inside of your head without saying a damn word
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to you. You're telling me and you're showing
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me different things that maybe the hubby doesn't
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know about the wife and maybe the wife doesn't
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know about the hubby. You guys understand what
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I'm saying? Yes. Okay. Okay. Every couple is
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different. You know what I mean? Every couple
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has different wants. Every couple has different
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needs, desires, et cetera. So it's like nothing
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is ever like assumed when I talk to somebody.
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So everything is discussed. Here again, when
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I talk, there's a way that I talk, and that might
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be in a dominant and controlling way at first,
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but then I know how to step back and speak in
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other ways. And to the people that are listening,
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if you're not getting it, I'll break it down
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further, okay, as we go. But that is like maybe
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a third of my philosophy. And as we go, I'll
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chime in more, and then it'll make sense. But
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you guys take over. You talked about, you know,
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the way you talk is dominant. Can you break that
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down? Give us an example or maybe explain what
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that means. the way you talk in a dominant way?
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When I'm meeting a couple, of course, I'm extremely
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nice. I introduce myself, et cetera, et cetera.
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But throughout the conversation, they may give
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certain cues. They may give certain cues or may
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say certain things, and I may chime in and come
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back with a dominant. quote or um let's say i'm
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talking to you too for the very first time i
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never met you guys before you tell me that you
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guys are a stag vixen couple um i'm looking i'm
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talking to you socrates but i'm looking at i'm
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looking at siren the whole time right right all
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right siren is let sign has let me know through
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her her actions through her looks at me through
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her facial expressions, the whole nine yards,
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whether or not she is, i .e., feeling me or she's
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not feeling me, okay? She may give me several
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looks, and I might chime in and stop you in conversation
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and look at her and be like, come here, baby
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girl. Like, get closer to me. Because I can tell
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that she's feeling what I'm talking about. You
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know what I'm saying? She likes what she sees.
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She moves a little closer. And let me tell you,
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let me tell you, I got to interrupt you real
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quick because I don't want to forget when you
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just said, come here, baby girl. Like Brian,
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you can say come here, baby girl to any woman.
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They're coming to you. Okay. I have had more
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women tell me, oh my God, I just want to, I don't
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even know what Brian Moran looks like yet, but
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like, I just want to fuck him because his voice.
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So I have had multiple women. And I'm like, well,
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you know, I'll put in a good word for you. I
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appreciate your voice is just. And I'm still
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trying to get that one. I don't I don't know
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what it is. I guess that comes from pops. But
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you know what? It's a great voice. The voice
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to like, I don't know. It just makes you feel
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calm and excited at exactly the same time instantly.
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So. That is just one extra superpower that you
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have born with. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank
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you. But isn't that, but isn't that what, what,
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what you want to have that bull make you guys
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feel like immediately? Yes. Like you, like, you
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know, like you, okay. Yeah. We just introduced
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ourselves, but the way he's, he's so calm and
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he's so, you know, his, his demeanor, his aura,
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his charisma. It seems like I've known this guy
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forever. And I know that makes you feel extra
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good, Socrates, because you immediately are like,
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okay, I can kind of be myself around this guy
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immediately. You know what I mean? It might be
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a quicker vetting process than I thought it was
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going to be. Correct? Yeah. I think so. And as
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a stag, I understand what maybe a cuckold couple,
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you know, a cuck might feel, right? Whether you're
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a stag or a cuck or whatever, you understand
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that you want your wife to be respected until
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it's time to be disrespected, right? You want
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her to be treated well. You want to be included
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in this because that's why you're here. I'm here
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to see my wife get, you know, whatever she, you
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know, whatever. Fucked. Right. By 25, you know,
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87 or one, you know, whatever. But the main goal,
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I'm sorry, go ahead. No, go ahead. No, I was
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going to say the main goal for me is I want both
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partners to feel A, respected, B, safe, and in
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the end, satisfied. Period. That's it. I mean,
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that's the whole, that's the whole, my whole
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meaning right there. If I meet a couple and I
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can sit there and I can talk to them and, you
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know, the respect that part, the safety part,
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and then in the end, you know, after the encounters
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where everybody's satisfied, that's the perfect
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encounter to me. Because what's going to happen
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after that? You guys are going to be closer to
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each other. You're going to feel closer. You're
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going to feel closer to each other. And then
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what's after that? you're going to be eager to
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see me again, correct? Yep. Yep. Also, that overall
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principle is just something that's good to take
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throughout the lifestyle for a man or a woman
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because that just kind of hit me between the
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eyes as we're about to have a threesome after
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this podcast tonight is, you know, as the wife
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of the bull, you know, I should take that into
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the same, you know, mindset. I was telling Socrates,
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I said, It helps my brain a lot if we have a
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vision, plan, and purpose for social situations
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because my brain just bounces around like a pinball
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machine. But once he gives me that framework,
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I'm able to go into those social situations calm,
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safe, and excited. So I think that's good for
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me to remember too as I'm going about the lifestyle
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is when we're interacting with another woman,
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especially if she's single, it's like we need
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to help her. to feel those three things, you
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know, that she's respected, protected, and satisfied.
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And then by doing that, we will feel that as
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well. So that's good to take into any group situation
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too as well. But, you know, as the bull being
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the main leader and then me being the secondary
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leader in the situation, that's the order of
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things that I need to be thinking of. So that
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really helped me. Thank you, Brian. No problem.
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Appreciate it. I know you were putting that out
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to bulls, but, you know. Well, I mean, it's out
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to everybody. It just goes to everybody. Right.
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That's why you have the feminine perspective
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on here. Yep. I want to kind of. So you guys
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have that. Go ahead. No, I was just going to
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say you guys have that tonight. So this is another
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female. I'm being nosy. Oh, yeah. I'm being nosy.
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This is our. Well, we had one. unicorn situation
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like just a lady came over one time it was a
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kind of a one and done situation um and then
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this girl was the second one that we had and
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so we've had her and she's she's exclusive to
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us by her choice um okay as sexually we don't
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have any like romantic girlfriend type thing
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with it um but yeah she just we just get together
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about once a month or so and have a great time
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but Yeah, so we've had her about three and a
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half years, I'd say. You know? Oh, good then.
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Good. Good. Have fun tonight. And I think, you
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know, key in, like, a threesome is if the women
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have off -the -chain chemistry, you know it's
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going to be a good time. Right? It's all about
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that connection because the man is happy to be
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there. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Nothing
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like sitting back and... Watching you guys for
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a little bit and then joining in. Love it. So
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I want to kind of talk about what I've learned
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recently studying this. I'm going to be talking
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about this on an episode of the Socrates philosophies
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and it's going to be called the standard. The
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one thing that I would, and this is kind of coming
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at it from a different perspective, but we're
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still talking about the art of dominance. The
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one thing that I think distinguishes or separates
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a bull from a manacorn or a single guy or a cuck
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or, you know, not a dragon. Dragons are still
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in the bull category. But a bull is one word,
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and he's the authority in the room, in my opinion.
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This is where I'm coming from. And being dominant
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does not mean to dominate someone all the time.
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It means that... You're the one in control of
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the room. You're in control of yourself. And
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you're the authority in the room. And you're
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guiding and leading this couple or her or the
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situation. And being dominant is about first
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self -control. Right? You cannot dominate anyone
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else if you can't dominate yourself. You can't
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control or lead yourself. Secondly, it's about...
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Finding those who want to be led and want to
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be dominated. Being dominant is not about being
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overbearing, pushing people who don't want you
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to dominate them. And third, it's really about
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leadership, right? Leading the room, leading
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the date. If you're vanilla and you're not in
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the lifestyle, because if you're a bull, you're
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really going on a date a lot of times with a
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couple. And you're leading and you're planning
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for a couple. But if you're just vanilla and
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you are going out there and you're on a vanilla
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date, you know, have a plan for the date. Have
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a plan for how you're going to look, what you're
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going to say in general, and how would you like
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the date to end, right? That's about being dominant.
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And the biggest thing is understanding that,
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and a lot of people are not going to like this,
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but I'm going to say it, is that... All the interactions.
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You're the one with the frame. You're the one
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with the vision. You're the one with the direction.
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You're the one with the skills. So you should
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always be the one to approve. You should be the
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one that said, this is what we're doing. You're
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the authority. You're the one. That doesn't mean
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that the couple doesn't have the ultimate say
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-so. In this situation, the cuckoldress or the
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hot wife. or a single woman, she is that gateway
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to opening where you're trying to get to, right?
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She's the gatekeeper of sex. That doesn't take
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any of that away. But a woman wants to look up
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to the man that she's asking them to dominate
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her or to lead. She wants to know he's in control.
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She wants to know he's capable, right? And that's
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about being the one who's always approving. The
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one who's always determining this is the direction
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we're going in. So what I've learned is that
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I don't know that you need the BDSM kink world.
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I need it because I need the structure. So in
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the kink world, I'm what's called a rigger. R
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-I -G -G -E -R. And that is someone who's a rope
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master or a shibari master. I'm not a master
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at all. I'm in the beginning stages of shibari
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and I'm halfway decent at bondage. But what I've
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learned is that I'm dominating that woman when
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I'm tying her up. Because she, at a certain point,
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depending on the tie, and I use jute or hemp
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rope, which is pretty strong, is that... When
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I have her subjugated under me and I'm under
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control, it's because that rope bunny has all
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of her decision making, all of her authority
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and all of her agency. She is now going to give
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it to me. And I'm going to put and I'm going
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to dominate under the understanding of consent.
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And this is what she ultimately wants. Most women
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who have a job, or even if you're a stay -at
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-home mom, they're making decisions all day long.
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They're making decisions that can affect their
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lives and their kids' lives and other people's
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lives. Thousands of decisions. Now, when they're
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in this situation and they're in front of Mr.
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Brian Morgan and the voice starts soothing them
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right away, and they're in a setting of... Either
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in a dating center or you could be in a lifestyle
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event. You could be at Naughty in New Orleans.
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You could be on a cruise. You could be at a club.
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She wants to turn her brain off. She wants to
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forget about the problems of the week. She wants
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to forget about her insecurities. You know, her
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mom's talking to her crazy, her kids. And so
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when you are dominating a woman, you're taking
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away her need to make choices. Under consent.
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Because like Mr. Brian Morgan says, he is the
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best listener. Why? Because he's listening for
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what are her likes and dislikes. What are her
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fears? What is his fears? What is his concerns?
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What turns her on? What gets her going? Right?
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All the cues. All the cues. Right. When you are
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dominating a person, a couple, or a woman, you're
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removing all of those decisions for her, right?
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I've talked about this before. If you're a vanilla
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situation, you want to go out with a girl on
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a date, you plan the date. Well, I don't know
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what she likes. I don't know. You ask her these
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things. What proteins do you like? I'll give
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you an example of a text message. I asked her,
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what proteins do you like? Oh, I like fish and
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steak. I mean, she's like steak and shrimp. Oh,
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okay. Do you have any allergies? No. What kind
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of veggies do you like? Boom. Okay. What kind
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of music do you? Boom. And these are not interview
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questions. These are throughout the conversation.
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When I was done, I knew the food she liked, what
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she doesn't like, her allergies. I knew colors.
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I knew everything. I planned the date out, and
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it went exactly the way she wanted it to go.
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Let me say this. I like the way, I don't mean
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to cut you off, but I like the way that you broke
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that, that with the food, the way you broke that
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down, the average guy, even the average bull
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is just going to say, he's just going to ask
26:10
what type of food do you like? Right. He's not
26:12
going to ask what type of protein he's not going
26:14
to ask what type of carb he's not going to, you
26:17
know what I mean? So I like, I like the way you
26:19
broke that down. Yeah, no, thank you. Because
26:21
most guys are trying to get the girl to make
26:24
a decision. So he doesn't disappoint or get rejected
26:28
or her complain. And that's you're not getting
26:32
it. So I asked those questions because then I
26:35
decided I'm a decent cook. What kind of steak
26:39
and shrimp I wanted. I wanted grilled steak and
26:42
shrimp skewers. So that's what I cooked. I wanted
26:45
these kind of veggies. So that's what I cooked.
26:47
I wanted. this scenario but i had the framework
26:51
okay these are allergies this is the kind of
26:53
music she likes this is what she doesn't like
26:55
to do i had all that framework right i do that
26:58
with my wife all the time i come up with dates
27:02
because i know her stuff i know what she likes
27:06
what she doesn't like if i do a home date i know
27:09
the food ain't gonna matter She don't care what
27:12
I put on that plate. She's just going to love
27:14
that I do really elaborate home dates. Oh, they're
27:18
the best. And since when I met you and you were
27:23
broke, and you tell everyone that, so I'm not
27:25
telling anybody new, anything new. And then he
27:28
would do these creative, that was like, you know,
27:31
whatever he had in the fridge. You know, probably
27:34
buy some roses that were on clearance because
27:37
it don't matter. He's going to rip all the petals
27:39
off and sprinkle them around and write messages
27:41
to me with flowers and then throw down a couple
27:44
blankets he already has and use the dick God
27:46
gave him. And it's the most amazing date ever.
27:52
Let me ask this. How long, how long, Socrates,
27:55
how long did it take you to do that? Was that
27:58
immediately when you met Siren? Yeah. Did you
28:01
take that? That was immediately. Okay. Okay.
28:04
Well, here again, another, another star for you.
28:07
All right. Another star for you because the average,
28:10
the average guy, the average bull is not going,
28:13
he, he's so damn concerned. Well, if he's even
28:17
thinking about what I talk about all the time,
28:20
which is getting to know the couple. All right.
28:22
Yep. So he, you know, he, if he had to do all
28:27
of that, what you just said on the first couple
28:29
of, of encounters or dates, he would fuck it
28:32
all up. He would mess it all up. So I would just
28:37
tell the guys out there listening and stuff,
28:41
if you are that more experienced bull, you know,
28:45
from the jump, then, yeah, I would suggest that
28:47
you could do what Socrates is saying right now.
28:50
If you are that younger guy who is still, he's
28:53
learning, he's just getting his feet wet, then
28:56
I would say let that. Like learning what you
29:01
like to eat, et cetera, et cetera. Breaking it
29:03
all down the way Socrates did. Let that come
29:05
a little bit later, a tad bit later. Learn the
29:09
basics first. The listening, the rapport with
29:15
the husband, the basics. Learn that first. And
29:18
then as you go, as you go, increase it like Socrates.
29:23
Socrates, you know, you're in another, you know,
29:25
you're in another, you're on another level. You're
29:29
on another level. You called yourself the perpetual
29:32
student, but you were never really a student,
29:34
my brother. You just got into this late. That's
29:37
all. Well, the lifestyle, but he's always studied
29:40
all the things that, you know, I wouldn't say
29:43
he got into it. I wouldn't say late and later
29:46
in life, but not late because, man, I'm so thankful
29:51
because there was several couples that had asked
29:53
me to join them. um before i met socrates and
29:57
i always didn't have enough information or you
30:00
know whatever i just i wasn't curious enough
30:02
and so i just am grateful because i'm like what
30:05
if i had gotten a different way than with him
30:08
and like all the background work that he did
30:10
his whole life on studying all these different
30:13
things And then got into ethical non -monogamy.
30:16
Like, I'm so grateful. Like, I told him the things
30:19
that annoyed me about him in the beginning. Like,
30:22
I was like, oh God, he's such a know -it -all.
30:24
Like, research, research, research, research.
30:30
the because he just like I just thought he was
30:33
cocky at first because that's what other guys
30:35
who like rattle off all these facts are but no
30:37
that's just who he is his whole life and how
30:39
his brain works all the time and so I'm like
30:42
the things that annoyed me about you in the beginning
30:45
are the have become the closest to my heart um
30:48
now as I've you know grown to know him and um
30:53
have the the blessing of loving him for this
30:56
long so um it's super cool it's super cool to
31:00
watch thank you yeah no you know and i i was
31:04
talking about this on another another episode
31:07
it's like it took me a while to translate the
31:10
principles i've had but you know my son reminded
31:13
me i've researched this guys this is not something
31:15
that i was out there lying to bitches and and
31:19
getting a body count by lying and deceiving and
31:23
I researched this stuff and I wanted to get it
31:27
down and I had a lot of failures in life. So
31:30
when I came to the lifestyle, it took me a while
31:33
to know how to adjust for the differences. But
31:38
once I started seeing it, I was like, oh, okay,
31:41
you know, I got it. So I appreciate it. I really
31:44
appreciate it. So Siren, talk to me about how
31:49
you feel. When a bull is like doing dominance
31:55
in the correct way or at least at least in a
31:57
way that you and your audience and your listeners
32:01
and the girls that you talk to the way that they
32:04
like it. So I have to say, too, there's two different
32:09
kinds. There is the dominance that you bring
32:11
on the daily. And then there's dominance in the
32:16
moment that I will just have with a bull during
32:19
that time. and our banter you know if we're in
32:22
that play space but um although that might be
32:26
a very good quality that they have i i find them
32:29
not a match for me you know in overall life whereas
32:32
socrates has that dominance in every situation
32:36
so you know there's a big big difference um but
32:42
how we feel in the you know it's it's really
32:45
just that the tone that they use the speed of
32:49
their words, and the volume of the words. Those
32:58
three different things, right? Yeah, so speed,
33:00
tone, and volume. Explain that to the audience
33:04
when you say the volume of the words. So how
33:07
loud he speaks, how loud or how soft. So let
33:11
me give you an example. is a new there's a new
33:16
bowl in town and i have been enjoying him very
33:19
much and he was over here i think it was the
33:22
first time that we played and he's very confident
33:26
um in the lifestyle and so we're like yay finally
33:30
you know someone that my husband can walk through
33:32
the room and he's just like how you doing sir
33:34
keeps on going you know um doesn't skip a beat
33:38
it's been a while Um, so we're sitting at the
33:41
table and so, um, Brian, you just don't understand.
33:45
Like out here in the, you know, we're starting
33:49
to get some water in the desert. So this is some
33:55
water, you know? Um, anyways, so the, the guy,
34:02
he says something to me and I answer back with
34:05
basically a bratty. equivalent of make me you
34:10
know and he looks at me does not blink looks
34:14
straight into my eyes and says just like this
34:18
just you wait what was i gonna say and then my
34:29
husband later was like i was taking notes because
34:31
like i've never seen you be sassy in front of
34:33
me to somebody like that And he's like, and then
34:37
his answer was just like, boom. You know, there
34:40
was no, there was no, there was nothing after
34:43
that. It was like, oh, just take me to the bedroom
34:45
right now. And there was nothing, there was nothing
34:49
disrespectful. He just said, he just made a comment,
34:53
just you wait. But he made it in a way that it
34:56
made everything, it cranked up everything below.
35:00
Right. So yeah, he's been around a little while.
35:04
It evokes a lot, you know, like excitement, like
35:07
also like, oh, shut the fuck up, bitch. You know,
35:11
it could have had so many meanings. It was everything.
35:15
It was all the meanings. And so, you know, it
35:20
was awesome. But he and he'll do that when like
35:23
even when he first walked in the door that night,
35:26
I went to the door to greet him. He had just
35:29
come. from a job site so he was gonna take a
35:33
shower at the house and you know we're gonna
35:35
hang out from there so right when he walks in
35:38
the door the door was not even shut and he had
35:41
his hand around my throat and then just like
35:45
pulled me in and then kissed me and was like
35:48
nice to meet you and that was the first time
35:51
i ever met him so just knowing you can sometimes
35:58
Yeah, not being afraid to just try it because
36:01
I'm also learning like what my responses are
36:04
to those things because I haven't had that in
36:08
a, you know, in a play partner, you know. You
36:12
know, someone I've been able to have a few times
36:15
and kind of develop and see what their style
36:18
is. So I've definitely had that in different
36:21
moments where, you know, a guy will just pick
36:24
me up, throw me on the bed. that kind of dominance
36:27
but this is more of just like a quiet this is
36:29
different this is different yeah that's different
36:32
that is different it's less physical that is
36:34
and then and then that believe believe it or
36:39
not to me that that that sounds like that guy
36:42
is he's got a little sigma he's got some sigma
36:44
in him he's got some lone wolf he's not afraid
36:48
he's not he's not afraid to go there he knows
36:51
how to do it though and he knows how to do it
36:54
respectfully you know what i mean and yet get
36:58
the point get the point across with like two
37:01
three words less and i like that that's that's
37:05
that's that keeps something on your mind all
37:07
the time all right that's what i that's what
37:10
i tell a woman i might not be on your bones but
37:12
i'm always on your mind all right that's what
37:16
he does to you Yeah, you should see our text
37:18
messages. Our text messages are so lame. We're
37:21
not really talkers to each other. We're both
37:25
Aquariuses. It's hilarious. So my husband's like,
37:28
well, Aquarius guys seem to do it for you. I
37:30
said, here's the thing. It's like we banter,
37:35
we talk, we're very few words back and forth,
37:38
but then the play is hot as fuck, okay? But hanging
37:42
out with them for a whole day? is actually pretty
37:47
boring like because we they don't really talk
37:51
right and so that's funny in the thing when he's
37:53
like i don't like to talk and i was like i don't
37:55
like to listen like a like i'm not gonna obey
37:58
you type thing and but really he doesn't talk
38:01
so um you know but you don't he doesn't even
38:05
talk to direct you in the bed he just takes his
38:08
hands and just like moves you and then when he
38:11
only says like a couple words you know like that's
38:14
a lone wolf so that's a lone wolf yeah and he
38:18
just comes in does his thing and then leaves
38:20
yeah that's but that's good good good man good
38:24
man i like that i know nothing about him barely
38:27
i know he has a couple kids or something and
38:29
where he works and that's about it well that's
38:33
all you need to know yeah i don't even know anything
38:35
about him because i feel everything that's happening
38:39
As long as he's respecting you, protecting you,
38:41
and then loving you physically. That's all you
38:43
need. Yep. That's a good man. That's a good man.
38:46
Yeah. We're excited to have him in the area.
38:51
We're grateful because he'll be a good asset
38:56
to Team BBC around here. Yeah. Yeah. And you
39:01
haven't said a word, so that means you agree
39:04
with him. You didn't chime in on that. I think
39:06
we're taking notes. He must be a good guy. No,
39:09
the revelation I had the other day, I figured
39:15
it out. But yeah, she's correct. You know me.
39:21
I'm a fast learner because if I see a skill,
39:24
I see any skill a man has, and you weren't born
39:28
with it or given to it by out -of -reach parents
39:32
or something like that, I'm taking it. The way
39:34
I saw you move, I just... at our bachelor party.
39:40
I think we've told this story before, but we
39:42
were at a bachelor party and it was my bachelor
39:47
party. Oh yeah, that's where you met. I keep
39:49
forgetting that. We met before at Splash. We
39:53
met before that. We did the podcast at Splash.
39:58
Oh, okay. We met before that. We should tell
40:04
the story of you guys meeting sometimes. Yeah,
40:06
yeah, yeah. That would be good, yeah. One of
40:08
the ladies that was there was number 500. Miss
40:15
500. We talk about her. And then the other one
40:19
was a really great couple that I'd never met
40:22
before, and she was there. And so Mr. Morgan,
40:27
I think, went to 500 and started massaging her
40:30
leg. And I had already known. that I already
40:35
knew like Brian Morgan's philosophy and his way
40:39
of thinking. And I look at that and I don't care
40:42
what a dude is, how much money he's got and what
40:45
he's doing. I look at your philosophy. So the,
40:48
I think it was two minutes after Brian Morgan
40:51
started, I went around, went to the other couple
40:54
and started massaging her leg. And so I'm that
41:00
fast. You are not going to have a skill around
41:03
me that's beneficial and fucking around and me
41:08
leave that room without that skill. So when I
41:12
finally saw the way, because I was until a couple
41:17
of days ago or yesterday, believe it or not,
41:19
honestly, like a switch tap and we can talk about
41:21
that later. But I was terrible at banter. Terrible
41:27
at it. Like banter was not my skill. Not at all.
41:32
And like she said, I just needed to see her act
41:36
the way she does with me in the bedroom. Because
41:39
if you've ever met the most fucking bratty ass,
41:42
and if you know kink, she's brat sub. Like extra
41:48
brat kink. Sarcastic ass bitch. I'm going to
41:56
explain to y 'all like this. I'm like East Coast
41:58
people because I know a lot of East Coast people
42:00
listen to the show. If you've ever been to a...
42:03
I'm part Puerto Rican. My baby mom's Puerto Rican.
42:05
I'm going to tell you this. My wife is like a
42:09
Puerto Rican woman without throwing the skillet
42:11
and without cooking the arroz con gandules. You
42:14
know what I'm saying? So that's how fucking crazy
42:17
she is sometimes. I love it. I signed up for
42:20
it. These are not at all problems. These are
42:23
great. but it's gotta fuck me into dominance
42:26
yeah i mean into submission i've done that that
42:30
i could do i've done that right but i'm gonna
42:33
tell y 'all i struggled with the banter with
42:35
this bitch like i'm telling y 'all i would and
42:38
there's been many times i've i rose up and like
42:41
bitch are you challenging me do we have to squabble
42:44
or like what are you what are you talking about
42:46
you know and and i and all he had to say was
42:51
just yeah right so watching this dude for the
42:57
first time watching her act the way she did because
43:01
he's cool as fuck he is a sigma male right he
43:04
very much so is and seeing my wife's reaction
43:08
and i don't have a drop of jealousy i just don't
43:10
i'll just be like oh she's drooling over dude
43:13
good it gives me 10 minute break fuck yeah like
43:16
please right i said oh, that's how you respond
43:22
to her bitchiness. And yeah, I was taking notes,
43:26
literally. I was like, I'll be back and wrote
43:28
some shit down. And it changed the game for me.
43:31
It changed the game. Yeah, so my point is, you're
43:35
right. Watching him, I watched the notes and
43:37
I saw how the tone, the look, all of those things.
43:41
Again, it's always about being your authentic
43:43
self. I didn't change who I am. I'm still ADHD,
43:47
fast -talking ass nigga who... and is nerdy as
43:52
fuck. But you made it your own. But I made it
43:55
my own. I did it the way I do it, which is a
43:59
principle. We're teaching principles. Also, you're
44:02
my husband. I don't want to be dominated in the
44:09
same way by a play partner as my husband is.
44:12
You know what I mean? It's different. So there's
44:16
definitely things to learn from that, but I like
44:18
that you made it your own because that's important
44:20
because no one knows me like you do. Like he's
44:23
just doing what he does to a hundred other bitches
44:25
probably. Sorry. And I call everyone bitches.
44:28
I like, if I see you in the street, I'm gonna
44:30
be like, bitch. Like, so that's love. Okay. Um,
44:34
I decided to explain myself because on my podcast,
44:37
I was talking about voices and got myself in
44:40
trouble. Okay. Anyways, so I forgot what I was
44:48
talking about. I like how you just put the husbands
44:52
at ease like that, though, for all the couples
44:55
that might be listening. Yeah. Well, that's important
44:57
to me. Letting them know that, hey, my husband
45:01
is someone else, you know, and I want him to
45:06
be. regardless of who i play with i don't care
45:10
how good it is etc etc there is no one like socrates
45:13
like my husband you know he is different so for
45:17
the couples that are listening That's a star
45:20
for Siren because she just made a lot of husbands
45:24
feel good right there probably. Well, I just
45:26
took and made that the masculine version of what
45:28
my husband's always telling me. Like my husband's
45:31
always telling me, you know, hey, you're in this
45:33
position. This is your place. And there is, you
45:37
know, this is again, I'll use the word bitch
45:39
because I love you all. This bitch got this and
45:41
this and this and this. But all that everybody,
45:44
you know, all together does not equal a drop
45:48
of you. You know, so I just turned that into
45:52
the masculine version of what he's always telling
45:53
me. Because, you know, and then I get in my little
45:56
insecure head and I'm like, oh, you know, she's
45:59
prettier or something. Ask him. I have little
46:02
my little moments. Yeah. But, you know, he just
46:07
always brings me back to center. you know every
46:09
time and he's like listen baby there's no one
46:11
like listen we're like doing this we got businesses
46:14
you know we sleep in the the bed 359 nights a
46:20
month a year together you know like uh yeah you
46:24
know there's just you can't I'm to even compare
46:27
myself is just stealing my own joy. So just being
46:30
authentic and vulnerable to you ladies. It's
46:32
okay. Like I've been in this lifestyle for four
46:35
and a half years and I am still growing and learning.
46:38
And so I don't ever want to be inauthentic on,
46:41
on my struggles, but you can work on them. There's
46:44
lots of awesome tools. And my husband helps me
46:47
find new ones all the time. Good deal. I feel
46:52
like I'm all sappy towards my husband tonight.
46:55
Maybe that's because he collared me last night.
47:00
We need to talk about that. Maybe I'm being all
47:03
sappy. In the kink world, they understand. In
47:07
the kink world, that means she's my sub. That
47:11
means there's a certain kind of dynamic between
47:13
us that goes beyond husband and wife. We did
47:20
that ceremony last night and then I tied her
47:23
up. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I've, I've, I've, I've
47:28
had a certain, I've had a certain one college
47:30
before. So if, uh, down, down South, down South
47:35
for me. So, yeah, she knows what that's like.
47:39
She knows what that's like. Like I said, I've,
47:41
I have dabbled in the kink world. I, you know,
47:44
my version of kink may, it's probably a lot different
47:46
than a whole lot of people, you know, other people,
47:48
but I have dabbled. So. Yeah. And what I like
47:52
is. you know your version of kink is probably
47:55
you know a very great and acceptable version
47:58
you know just like any others right and that's
48:01
the thing that i learned is like there is no
48:03
one set way to do it you know so no you know
48:09
um tell us what it's not tell me where people
48:12
get it wrong as far as what kink or the art of
48:18
dominance yeah Would they get it wrong? Would
48:22
couples get it wrong? Or would the whole triad
48:26
get it wrong? No, here's my opinion. You can
48:30
tell me this. I really think if you dom the right
48:35
way, if you're dominant in the right way, let's
48:39
say you're a bull, right? And you're being dominant
48:42
in the right way to a couple. And let's say the
48:45
cuck is very masculine. Outside of the scene,
48:47
he is very dominant, very masculine, very controlling.
48:50
Everything's cool. But in that scene, you're
48:53
the authority. In my opinion, if you do it right,
48:57
the responses are going to be better than if
49:01
you don't do it right. I'm not worried about
49:03
the couple as a bull. I'm saying as a bull, what
49:08
are the things that you can see that... Bulls
49:11
get wrong while they're trying to act dominant
49:13
or try to replicate dominance or trying to do
49:18
something they think is being dominant and they
49:20
get it wrong. What if you haven't discussed,
49:24
here again, if you haven't discussed in depth
49:26
as far as like what you want, the three of you,
49:31
what the three of you are looking for, then everything
49:35
can go wrong with you being dominant. um here
49:40
again i don't i don't even discuss i'm not i've
49:44
told you guys before i'm not concerned about
49:46
sex i'm not concerned about sex i i'm i know
49:50
eventually sex is going to come so my whole conversations
49:54
with a couple are about here again us being safe
49:59
us being respectful um about me not wanting to
50:05
be anything more than just that good bull. You
50:09
know what I mean? I try not to let emotions come
50:13
in there. Eventually, if they do, hey, they do.
50:17
So be it. We'll go from there. But sex -wise,
50:21
for you younger guys out there, don't go into
50:25
this thing just thinking. I've said it before.
50:28
If you just want to be a BBC bull, just come
50:31
in there and put your damn dick out. If that's
50:32
what the couple wants, then so be it. All right?
50:35
Then do that. But do not discuss the sex too
50:39
quickly. Let them bring it up, and then you go
50:44
from there. You go from there. Then you can take
50:48
over. All right? And then you can lead and guide.
50:51
And that makes for a great encounter later on
50:54
if it happens. But here again, though, be patient.
50:57
Be as patient as damn possible. And let things
51:01
come, you know, let things come naturally. Talk
51:05
about clarity and the journey to get there, Socrates.
51:11
Whoa. That's a little too broad. What do you
51:15
mean? Well, in regards to the bull, you know,
51:19
having, making sure, because, you know, a lot
51:21
of times things can be seen as impatience, but
51:26
for you, it's a lack of clarity. And so that's
51:29
why you, you know, do what you do in this space.
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So I'm just talking about the journey to clarity
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with someone. If you don't, what could look at
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show, tell us how impatience can. that looks
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like impatience, but it's actually a lack of
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clarity. Tell us how that works for you. These
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are great, but I don't know that... How is this
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connected to the subject? Because this is something
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audience... This is something me and my wife
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talk about all the time. So... Well, how is getting
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clarity... I'm trying to connect the dots. Like
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getting clarity in a situation is... Is all the
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time. Because Brian was just talking about the
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art of patience. Oh, okay. Got you. Thank you
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for connecting. Because I was talking about how
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impatience can actually be lack of clarity. So
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here's my philosophy about that. I don't believe
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in patience like other people do. I think patience
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is one thing and one thing only. A lack of knowing
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how long it takes. That's it. Say that again
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now. In my personal opinion, patience is one
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thing and one thing only, a lack of knowing how
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long it takes. Right? So there's only two kind
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of people. If a person knows how long it takes
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and he gets frustrated that it's taken that long,
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you're an impatient person. Right? But if you
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say, okay, I have this tree, this apple tree,
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and I'm not supposed to expect these apples,
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this treating. producing the apples for seven
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years then i know what i'm doing i'm doing anything
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else except for expecting apples from that tree
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so that's what she's talking about so um what
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i when when i get clarity for example i learned
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this about all human beings but it comes out
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more in women so this is all human beings but
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it comes out more with women is that most, it's
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not all human, I would say 80 % of human beings
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are externally processing when they talk to you,
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right? So when you have a conversation with them
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and you ask them something, most people don't
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know themselves enough to know the answer. So
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what they start doing is they start talking out
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loud and interacting with you and using you as
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a sounding board and you're using them as a sounding
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board. And after a while, they start coming together
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and pulling the idea together what the answer
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is, right? When I learned that, it gave me patience
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to talk to people because I'm not like that.
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Because of my ADHD or the way I grew up and being
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nerdy, I started really examining why I like
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something, what I think about something. You
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know, how did I get there? I write a journal
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a lot, so I'm always talking about it. I keep
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a lot of Excel spreadsheets on stupid stuff and,
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you know, keep track of things. And I know myself.
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I used to get very impatient with people because
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I didn't know that if I'm asking you a question,
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I've probably curated that question for an hour.
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You don't know that. Right. And so I've selected
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every single word I'm about to come out of my
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mouth. And then a lot of people, when they externally
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process, they... they are not exactly addressing
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your answer. And I used to get frustrated. I'm
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like, that's not what I asked you. And I would
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cut them off and then not realizing I didn't
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allow them to develop their answer, right? Well,
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what does that have to do with what we're talking
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about? The art of dominance is about being the
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one who slows your tone down and your pace, who
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leads them to where they need to be, but also
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is patient enough. Like Unk said, I'm not going
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for sex. Like Unk says, I'm not worried about
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even the woman at first. I'm going to talk to
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the guy, right? So knowing that she doesn't know
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what she wants. She knows how she wants to feel.
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She might not know how she wants the night to
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go, but she does know how she wants to feel at
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the end of the night. So if you're patient and
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you let that play out, then, you're going to
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be able to see a woman in what I call explode.
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What that means is she starts being fulfilled
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in the need and the way she needs to be fulfilled.
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A woman explodes with orgasm, with sexual energy,
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with sexual juices, with squirt, with cum, with
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all of these things. So for me, when I started
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realizing, if I learn the process and I learn
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the process of getting comfortable, women getting
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comfortable in general, right? Now, these are
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generalities, guys. Do not make this out for
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every woman. Every woman is different. You have
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to get to know a woman like Unk said. You've
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got to take your time and understand women. But
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these are some generalities, right? Women need
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to feel safe. They need to feel heard. They need
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to feel seen. They need to feel protected, right?
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We had a guest on. His name is James. It was
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Victorian James, and he said, A relaxed woman
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is a horny woman. There's something like that.
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A stress -free woman is a horny woman. I'm sorry,
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but ladies and gentlemen, and all of that equates
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to you getting, especially the guys, to you diving
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into the emotional orgasm and not just the physical
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orgasm. Exactly. What Socrates was saying, what
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he was just saying, all that equates to the emotional
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orgasm. Keep going. I think that's where we should
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close out. Boom. Mic drop. Go ahead, Cyrus. It's
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like, like you said before, then she leaves feeling
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respected, protected, and satisfied. Protected.
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And that's it. That's it. That is it. Put a bow
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on it. And they can't. And they can't wait, she
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and they can't wait to call you and see you again.
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That's a perfect encounter. Well, ladies and
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gentlemen, we're going to call it quits for the
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night. I've definitely enjoyed talking to the
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family, Socrates and Siren, about the art of
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dominance. And we will be back, God willing,
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next week with another intriguing topic. I don't
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exactly know what it is right now, but if you
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tune in next week about the same time, same channel,
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we will be here. And as I always say to my fellow
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bulls out there, good night. And to my beautiful
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hot wives, good morning. Till we meet again.
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Bye -bye.