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Was FSU snubbed? NFL Week 13 reactions, and are 90's athletes overrated ?? · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, Welcome back to another episode of the
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so called Sports Analyst, this episode number twenty four. Josh, how you
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doing today? Not very good, But we're gonna we're gonna push through this
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episode because there's a lot of good football to talk about. Yeah, no,
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I'm gonna have to push through this episode too. You're not the only
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it to anybody who likes sports. But today we're gonna start off with college
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football. Usually we start off with NFL, but obviously it's the bigger topic
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right now. So yeah, let's go ahead and get into the the college
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football rankings. So the rankings, the official rankings for the playoffs. It
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is Michigan one, Washington two, Texas three, Bama four, and Florida
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State five and Georgia six. So what is your first reactions from this?
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Josh? My initial thoughts on this is how did Florida State not make it.
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But but I'm not mad at it. I'm not mad at it at
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all. I think I think the committee kind of got it right because,
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in my opinion, I didn't want to see another TCU man. I know
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you, I know that's your team and those are your boys. But if
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Jordan Travis was playing, I understand the whole thing. But they're down to
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their third stream quarterback right now, and that last game versus Louisville was terrible.
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They didn't even throw for over sixty yards in that game. Alfonso,
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I don't know how you can put a team that looked like that and especially
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like this over the last couple of weeks into the colle football playoff, and
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the whole thing is getting the best teams to make it, and without even
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Tate road Maker, I don't think they're they're in the top four teams.
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But we could also make the argument that Georgia and Ohio State are better than
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every single team that's made made the playoffs, so they should really be in
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it. But I think where that came down to mainly was that Alabama beat
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Georgia, so they put the committee kind of in like a like a little
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situation because Texas beat Alabama, and they beat Alabama pretty good. It's not
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like they like were like only winning by three points in that game. I
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think they won by like ten points in that game versus Alabama. So it
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was kind of they kind of forced it against them, like, hey,
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if we put Alabama in here, which they wanted an SEC team, they
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wanted an SA SEC team. They needed an SEC team to make the final
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four. So since Alabama beat Georgia, Texas be Alabama. That's what they
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went with. Miss in Washington, have no arguments for me. They deserve
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to be in the top four. I know you can agree with that.
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They're both undefeated, they both won their championships, much like Florida State did
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themselves. They should have made it. I think they should admite it.
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They had all the qualifications because the Collegetball playoff. They said, oh,
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you go un defeated, you schedule hard out of conference games. That's how
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you make it. You win your championships, that's how you make it.
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Florida State did every single one of those, but they just went the other
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direction in this one. And for the final time that we'll have this format,
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they went with another direction. With their own rules. Well, I'm
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glad. I've been talking to everybody, well some of my friends and stuff
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like that. They've had total different opinions. I'm glad that we could.
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I know we usually agree, but I'm glad that we could finally or agree
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on this right here, because Florida State should be in the college football playoffs.
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I don't care what any of y'all are saying as far as the best
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team or whatever it is. If you want to do the best team,
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then mightus will not play the whole damn season? Mightus? Well just pick
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your four teams. And it's not a coincidence Texas is going to the SEC
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next year, and then you have Bama in the SEC. Because if it
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was the best teams, then it'll be Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan,
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Washington, That's who it would be because they have the most talented teams and
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the most impressive resumes. But that's not how it is. And then you
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could be like, Okay, well, Florida State, maybe they have a
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softer schedule or whatever. Florida State eight wins against boeligible teams. Florida State
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against winning Power five conferences, they have five wins and compared to Obama they
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have six wins. Compared to Texas they have five wins. So there's not
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that much of a big gap or even versus the top What do you want
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to say, Josh? What's up? And the SEC? ACC has more
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wins than the SEC does against a SEC schools, you know what I'm saying?
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So ACC has been the SEC more times cut out this year. That
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was a lot of ccs. But yeah, they Josh and the other conference,
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I don't know what happened. Maybe that was a yeah, maybe that
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was a disconnection or something. Hopefully well, I don't know if he's frozen
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or are you? Were you frozen with frozen? Yeah, you're frozen.
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Did you hear what I said? No? I didn't hear all I just
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heard. Is ACC something with the record? I think you has been the
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SEC more times this year? Has been I can't work this correctly. The
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ACC has won more head to head matches with the SEC. Let's just say
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that that's a lot better right there. ACC has been yeah there, Yeah,
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And so if you want to say, oh, well it's a weaker
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conference, the SEC is seven and nine versus outer conference teams. So let's
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really talk about that, and then what I wanted to add on to is
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that FSU versus top forty teams ranked in the College football So obviously they ranked
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through twenty five, but they could rank through forty. Florida State they have
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six wins compared to Texas who has six as well. Bamahul has seven,
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so there's not that big of a gap. And they're like, Okay,
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well Jordan Travis, he has hurt whatever, so on and so on and
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so forth. But I don't know if you remember this exactly well, but
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in twenty fourteen, Ohio State lost their starting quarterback and they lost their backup
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quarterback, in which they had their third string quarterback in Cardil Jones. They
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made it to the championship game and then they won. So what did they
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do? They put them into the playoffs and what nobody expected, they won
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the championship because, you know why, it's a team game, and they
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had one of the best talents in the league. Florida State, they have
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one of the most talented rosters in college football. There's no question we have
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ten, i'd probably say ten to twelve guys who are going to get drafted
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in in this draft this year. So there's plenty of talent. And the
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reason why I'm more upset is that Florida State, compared to Alabama, compared
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to Georgia, Texas, we can't reload every single year and just be like,
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all right, cool, let's just roll in with the new crew.
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Florida State. It takes them two three years to build up something this special,
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and they deserve that shot because, like you were saying, they were
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undefeated and then they did exactly what they what they had to do. And
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I know this last game it didn't look impressive against Louisville, but Louisville they
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average over thirty three points a game, over four hundred yards of offense,
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and we held them to six points. Points. And the biggest thing I
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want to take away from this is the Florida State defense. I'm gonna list
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you the numbers they've given up in the second half of the entire games.
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So against LSU gave up seven, then ten, then nineteen seven, seven
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zero zero nine zero ten, zero three and three sixty one total points of
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all their second half games in thirteen games. This defense is the best defense
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in the country. And like I said last week, I don't think that
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Florida State. They were gonna win the whole damn thing, but give them
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a puncher's chance, you never know what could happen. But yeah, all
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right, I just had to get that out of the way. But so
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since we talked about that a little bit, we're gonna just talk about these
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four teams right here. So Michigan they're going up against Bama, and Washington
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they're going up against Texas. I know it's early. We'll give predictions a
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little bit later on, but just the first look at it. Who do
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you think is gonna make the national championship game or who do you think has
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advantage here? Josh, I think Alabama runs through Michigan. I'm not a
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big believer in Michigan. I think Alabama's on a pretty a pretty hot team
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right now, and they're coming off beating the best team in college football in
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Georgia. They're coming off beating them in their SEC championship, and I just
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feel like Michigan's so one dimensional. They're just run the football. JJ McCarthy
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isn't gonna out isn't gonna take over a game with his peer presidence, with
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his peer talent. He has a lack of ability, and it's just not
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being able to push the ball down the field. And I don't think Michigan
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is gonna be able to keep up with these teams that are in there.
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I get their defense is really strong, they have a really good defense,
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but when you're playing these three high powered offenses, well, Alabama they're not
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as high powered as Washington and Texas, I'd say that, but they have
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Isaiah Bond, they have Jalen Milroe where they can still they can throw the
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ball better than Michigan. And their run game is as is very similar to
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Michigan, so they I think they're gonna run through I think alabam Is gonna
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run through Michigan in the in that game. But the game that I'm looking
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for it is the most is Washington versus Texas. I think everybody is because
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this is gonna be a fun one to watch, in my opinion. We
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just saw Quinniewards probably come off the best game of his season in the Big
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Twelve Championship four fifty two, four touchdowns and an interception, and then Michael
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Pennicks. Sure the Washington has slowed down over the last couple of weeks with
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their offense, but they still got Remo Dunns, they got Jalen Polk,
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they got Jaden McDaniels, they got they got what am I going, Dylan
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Johnson, and they got Michael Pinnicks. So their offense is as high powered
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as it can get, and that's gonna be a fun one to watch.
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I'm leaning towards Washington in that game only because that receiving corps is so deep,
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Dylan Johnson's coming into his own and Michael Pennicks is in the top four
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of the Heisman votes, as the is in the final four of the Heisman,
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So that's who I got winning in that matchup. So I think we're
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gonna see a Alabama versus Washington national championship. M Well, I agree with
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you as far as with the Alabama side, I feel like Michigan they're just
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a better brand of Florida State. Let's be honest here, both quarterbacks who
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I know JJ McCarthy gets more hype, but running game defense Jalen Milrow.
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Ever since that Texas game or the next game, which tear, Yeah,
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he's been on a tear. It's running back in the country literally bes running
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back in the country, and he kind of I know he wasn't the Heisman
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finalists, which we're gonna get into in a second, but he kind of
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made his way up there. He made his way up into the top five
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as far as a Heisman finalist because he played that damn good. And it's
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just like you said, they're on a roll, and I think Bama they
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win this game. I could see this being like a like a forty five
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to seven round and then I'm really gonna be pissed off because it's like,
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oh, well, Florida State they could have lost the exact same way too,
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but no, you have the better brand in Michigan. In all right,
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all right, let me let me stop talking about Florida State here.
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But yeah, no, I see Bama they make it to the national championship.
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But then Washington and Texas, like you said, this is gonna be
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a very high scoring game right here. And I don't know what it is
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with Washington. They always struggle against the bad teams, but when it comes
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time or when it's time to play a real team, they always step up
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their offense. Is like, all right, let's get this going. We're
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just they're basically like saving the playbooks, saving players or whatever. Because against
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Oregon. They look like the normal Washington team we saw earlier in the earlier
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in the year. So between Michael Penicks, Quinn Ewers, I trust Michael
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Penicks more and the wide receivers Romeo Dunze, Jalen Polk, Xavier Worthy,
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Aden Mitchell, it I feel like that's a wash right there. And I'd
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have to give the edge to the Texas defense because the defensive line for Texas
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is one of the best defensive lines in the entire country. So I'd have
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to give that edge because they can run or they can't stop the run and
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rush the passer. But I'll tell you this, the Texas, the Texas
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bat or the Texas back end is very weak and they could be had by
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Romeo o'dunze. I could see him going for two hundred plus yards, but
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not even him, they have to worry about the other two receivers also,
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Yeah, yeah, I get that, But I just think that Texas,
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I just think that they'll find a way to win. Again, this isn't
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official predictions here obviously. When it gets closer, and not to mention either
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this game it's in New Orleans, so it's in the South, it's in
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the South. So that's advantage Texas right there. You're basically playing a Texas
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home game right there, which I think makes no sense because Washington they were
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the higher seed and they still get a disservice here. And I think it
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setting up with what the College Football Playoffs they wanted the entire time. They
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wanted Texas Bama cause it's I know Texas they're not SEC yet, but it's
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an SEC team. Let's be real here, That's the reason they begetting all
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these recruits in. So. Yeah, so I know you have Washington Bama
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again this early predictions, who do you think would win that one? Okay,
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before I get into that, I want to apologize. I kept saying
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Jalen Williams. I was arguing chet versus Wimby with somebody earlier, so I
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was really talking a lot about Jalen Williams. Is Jalen McMillan. I apologize
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people. That's I don't know why Jalen Williams was still in the back of
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my mind, but it's Jalen McMillan, and so my bad that was that
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was an argument from earlier. But yep, that's true. But in that
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game, I'm gonna have to go to Nick Saban and is brilliant in that
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one. Dude. I think it's gonna be an Alabama national championship once again.
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They're gonna come back and rise. They're gonna be the cream that rides
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to the top like always. You know what I'm saying in some macho man
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Randy Savage quotes. Pause, But they're gonna it's gonna it's gonna be a
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cake walk. I think for Alabama. I'm not even gonna lie. Really,
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I think this team, I just think this team Washington isn't built too.
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It's just it's just hard to say bet against Alabama. Yeah, I'm
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just in the in this, in this whole situation right here. Yeah,
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I think Texas may be a better matchup, but I think Washington's offense is
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so high powered. We've seen Texas give up some pretty big leads during the
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season, and that's that's I think it's gonna come back to bite them in
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the ass in the end of of this of their of their game Washington versus
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Texas, but versus Washington versus Alabama, Alabama won't. I don't think Alabama
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will give up a lead if they have it. Yeah, I can definitely
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see that, see that happening right there. Obama again, they're just the
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more experienced team, just with the better coach. So yeah, I have
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Bama and Texas in this, and I know they played in Tuscaloosa Week two,
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but like we, like we said the past few weeks, Jalen Milroe
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is a different quarterback than what he was that time, and I feel like
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they would get their get back. So again, I'm maybe it's not the
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same matchup, but I'm going with the same team to win. I think
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Alabama they'll end up winning this national championship right here because that coaching experience it
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matters. And Obama they find a way at the top. So is there
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anything else you wanted to take away from this? The whole College Football playoff
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rankings before we get into the Heisman or no. I I just think this
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is God, this is weird. It's I just think with the whole Florida
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State situation, it's always that one weird situation every single year. Last year,
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Ohio State didn't even make their Big Ten championship, they still ended up
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making it to the College Football Playoff. You lost TCU lost in their championship,
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still made their their playoff made the playoffs. I just don't know.
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I just think that's why it's good. It's the games aren't gonna matter as
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much as they usually do. But I think it's gonna be good that they're
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gonna expand to twelve teams so we don't have these situations again because it's just
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they have these rules, but they don't ever go by their rules when in
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the end, with when it matters the most. So I think it's gonna
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be good that this twelve team playoffs gonna start next year. But then we're
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also gonna see like a let's give an example, like an Oregon State get
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in and they're gonna end up playing Georgia in their first game, and Georgia
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is gonna fucking wall rail that like destroy them. And then we're gonna have
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Ohio State versus let's put a random team out there first lane, yeah,
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two lane, and they're gonna or like Liberty University, I don't know,
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something like that. They're gonna play some random and then so it's I think
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it's I think what this twelve team playoff is gonna do is gonna turn into
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Alabama, Georgia and Ohio State show yeah, yeah, I can see that
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exactly happening. But again, Alabama, again, I see them getting to
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the playoffs. It makes sense, you know, because FSU they had a
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one score lead versus A versus the G five game in the fourth quarter,
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lost at home by two scorers, one at three, one by three points
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against the four and eight team, need a hell mary to beat a six.
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Oh that's Alabama. Oh my bad, I got I got my teams
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mixed up. Sorry, I'm still a little bit salty there. But no,
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this this twelve team playoff, I feel like it doesn't have to be
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a twelve team playoff exactly the reason that you said, because if it's twelve
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teams, it's really gonna be blowouts. It's gonna be what people think the
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Florida State would be. I feel like it should be one through six and
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the first two two teams get a bye. Yeah, two teams, they
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get a by the top two teams get a bye, and that's why,
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like a Florida State and Georgia they'll go in. So but who knows,
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We'll see how it looks next year. But it's definitely gonna add more balance
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to the college football playoffs, not as much biased or politics as we saw
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in this one right here, but anything else you want to take away.
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No, nothing for the for the rankings. I think we said we said
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our peace, all right, well I'm at peace. I don't know if
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you're at peace, but yeah, no, I won't be at peace.
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Man. You know, you know what would upset me even more because I
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know so much text made it. Okay, maybe if they had my homes
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there, maybe then they would make it not even bro Yeah no that's true.
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But fifty to a game and they didn't make and didn't even win a
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game with him, Yeah, that that's true. It would kind of be
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like Thekla Williams situation. But no, like I was saying, I swear
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because I know Florida State players are going to be sitting out because you don't
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want to get yourself hurt for no reason. But if we beat Georgia,
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you know how much more that's gonna upset me right there? It's going to
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basically prove a point like, hey, we still could have won these games
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right here, but who knows. Okay, let's stop talking about this.
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So since we talked about the college football rankings, the Heisman finalists, they
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did come out, and in those top four it was Jayden Daniels, Michael
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Pennix, bow Knicks, and Marvin Harrison Junior. But we're gonna give our
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own opinions on who we believe is the Heisman winner right here. So I
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don't know if you have rankings or anything. Josh, did you want to
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go first or did you want me to go first? You can go first.
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I'm gonna look up something real quick that will help my argument. I
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just it just came to my mind. Okay, Well, so who I
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have? Number one? It's Jaden Daniels from LSU. I feel like he's
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the clear cut favorite and if he doesn't win this college or this Heisman,
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then there's just something wrong with the whole college football playoff or college football politics.
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Because he had the best stats four nine hundred and forty six toll yards,
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fifty touchdowns, four interceptions, but him, But I'll give his normal
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stats three thy eight hundred and twelve yards, forty touchdowns, forty interception or
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four interceptions, seventy two point two completion percentage, one hundred and thirty five
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carries, one hundred and thirty four yards, ten touchdowns. You know how
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crazy that is, and they still finished, as I believe, the fourteenth
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or fifteenth ranked team in the whole country, So he's still up there.
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So the stats they are there, but how much are they gonna involve team
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success in it? So for number two, because I felt like, listen
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to number two right here, it would be Michael Pennocks, Michael Pennick Junior.
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They went undefeated, and it kind of gives a counter argument to Jaden
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Daniels. Didn't have the crazy stats like him, but they went undefeated,
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They're in the college football playoffs. Eighteen yards, thirty three touchdowns and interception
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saxty five point nine completion percentage, three touchdowns, So yeah, he has
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the entire resume like it fits having the stats not as much, but having
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the having the wins as well, and also honorable mention. Apparently, since
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Jordan Travis he mattered that much to Florida State being out, then I guess
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he should he should be up there too since he matters so much. But
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all right, who's your heisman right here, Josh? I don't know if
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it's just me being biased towards the player. For most of the season,
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I had Michael PENNICKX junior as it, but he kind of fell off for
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me the last couple of games of the season where the offense wasn't getting as
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high powered, which is kind of understandable. I think they kind of had
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a feeling like they're like a superior team to some of the teams they were
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playing, so they kind of just played down to their level, so they
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didn't empty out the playbook like we said earlier. But also like he just
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wasn't like the same type of electricity like he was to start out this season.
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Jad and Daniels Jay and Daniels has all the numbers in the world.
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He does, but winning matters, I think when it comes to certain awards.
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I understand that there's Heisman winners all the time that aren't part of championship
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teams, that aren't part of the top fourteens, but sometimes that stuff does
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matter, and I think it does matter in this case because sure, you
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can line up the scoreboard, but you gotta you gotta I think you gotta
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be put your team in a better positions than they were, because I don't
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even LC wasn't even in the top ten. I think, yeah, so
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it was like, yeah, so it's like that that comes into account for
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me. Bo Nicks had a terrific year, a really good year, but
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how much of that was predicated towards the weapons he had around him? So
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what I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna go with Marvin Harrison Junior as my
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Heisman winner. And I'll tell you why Marvin Harrison Junior's numbers aren't gonna look
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oh super sexy. The sixty seven one twenty eleven fourteen touchdowns, which was
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the second most in school history, I think for a wide receiver, and
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then he had one rushing touchdown. But I think words they're more impressive is
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that he is probably with the most stacked receiving group in all of college football
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because on the on the other side of him is another top five receiver in
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a make Buka in the country in my opinion, who's gonna be a first
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round draft pick. Then you have uh one of maybe a top three tight
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end in the country in Kate Strover, and then you have Julian Fleming and
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he's still able to put up these numbers. And you just know when you
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watched me, when you watch the tape and you see Marvin Harrison Junior on
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the field, something you just know you got to get the ball into that
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guy's hands. And that's for me, is why I think he's the Heisman.
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He's he's the best player on the field in any game he plays.
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I don't care who they're playing against. If Ohio State's playing Georgia, he's
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the best player on the field. Don't care brock Bowers is on the field,
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if he's playing Washington. He's better than Romo Dunns. He's better than
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Jalen Polk, He's better than Michael Pennix. He's he's better than all the
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It's to go to the best player in the country, and that's Marvin Harrison
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Junior. He's the best player in football in college football. It's hard.
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It's hard for me to disagree with that. It's again, he he's been
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that dude. And you've seen a skill position player win it. You saw
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DeVonta Smith. I think he was the last receiver to win it. So
25:07
I wouldn't be I wouldn't be surprised. Do you have a number two in
25:11
mind? Because I know some people are gonna go ahead, Uh, I
25:18
Michael Pennix, But I think Jayden and Daniel's numbers are just too hard to
25:22
ignore. It's kind of like a Lamar Jackson situation, I think, mm
25:26
hmm yeah, kind of like even like Caleb Williams last year, because they
25:30
weren't even up there either. Yeah yeah, yeah know, they weren't in
25:33
the top ten either, So yeah, I feel like Jalen Milroe, if
25:37
he didn't have that struggle against Texas, I feel like he definitely definitely would
25:42
be up there. As far as with the Heisman favorites, it was just
25:45
literally that one game right there. Who you have for Heisman early prediction next
25:51
year? Shot Deer Sanders, Baby, that's my pick right there. That
26:00
might pick right there, but he won't have the wins. Yep, hmmm.
26:06
I see Jayden Daniels don't got the wins either, And Shadeer Centers is
26:11
a better quarterback than Jayden Daniels. I will put that out there right now.
26:15
Mmm. I don't know. If I'm an NFL franchise and I have
26:22
Shader Sanders and Jaden Daniels sitting right there in front of me, I'm taking
26:27
Shader Sanders. Shadeer Sanders is the most accurate quarterback in football. We saw
26:32
that he doesn't turn the ball over. Get this man a competent old line.
26:36
They don't even have to be the best old line in college football.
26:37
They could be maybe in the twentieth range, not the bottom one hundred and
26:42
thirty second like they were this year, somewhere around there. Maybe. I
26:45
don't know, they were terrible. Give him a competent old line, and
26:48
they have had some top o line recruits signed. I've been paying attention.
26:52
Colorado became one of my bandwagon teams this year, and uh yeah, I
26:56
think he'll be I think he'll make a run. I think they'll be good
26:59
next year. I don't know. I can't. I can't give a Heisman
27:03
favorite. I can't give a Heisman favorite next year. Tate road to maker,
27:06
he's gonna be. I'm just skidding, no, no, but uh
27:12
oh my goodness, I for got his first name, Fleming from Ohio State,
27:17
the five star receiver, Julian Fleming. I feel like because he's going
27:22
into the transfer portal, I don't I don't know if you knew that he's
27:25
going into the transfer portal. Yeah, pretty crazy into the transfer portal this
27:30
year too, this week, today, today, damn. So I guess
27:34
everybody they're just jumping ship from Ohio State. I don't get why Jullian Fleming
27:38
would do that. He's gonna jump to the number one receiver as in his
27:41
next year. But hey, maybe maybe you go to Colorado. Maybe you
27:48
go you go win Heisman. I feel like Colorado's problem isn't the weapons.
27:53
It's not their weapons. Yeah, no, it's not the weapons. It's
27:56
just a big trenches. Yea, yeah, it's the trenches. That's their
27:59
problem. They have the DB's, they have Cormani McClain, they have Travis
28:03
Hunter, they have Shiloh. Shilo is a really good safety. He's just
28:06
a matter of him. And then you have on the other side Xavier Weaver,
28:12
Jimmy Horn. Then you have Travis Hunter and Travis Hunter. I think,
28:17
honestly, I think there's gonna become a decision where he's gonna have to
28:19
pick between the dB or wide receiver position, and in my opinion, I
28:22
think he might be a better receiver than he is corner. No that no,
28:29
him as a corner it's just it's just different, or you know that.
28:32
But him as a receiver is just different too, Like he's just he's
28:36
up there here. Here's why, here's why I say d dB because that
28:41
is his original position. You're underneath Dion. I know Dion, he did
28:45
play some receiver back in the day, but he is a dB. You're
28:49
getting coached by the best defensive back literally in the world, or the goat
28:55
defensive back. And yeah, like you said, you're not going to be
29:00
able to go up against Jalen Ramsey. The next thing, you know,
29:03
go up against Tyreek Hill literally from the same exact team. So yeah,
29:07
you won't be able to do that. Well. Since you brought up Shader
29:10
Sanders, I'll bring up uh or Travis Travis Hunter. He'll be my heisman,
29:15
a favorite for next year since I kind of see these guys are riding
29:19
Colorado like I mean they have. These guys are talented, they're not They're
29:22
not no scrubs, dude, Yeah, I know. Arch Manning just kidding,
29:30
Quin, you'res that he's another year or actually quinn Ewers that that is
29:34
interesting right there, quinn Ewers, that is you should go into the draft
29:38
this year. Man, I don't think he should. And I feel like,
29:42
I don't know, I guess this is just me like looking from the
29:45
outside in Arch Manning, I feel like you'd want to start right away like
29:51
I get red shirting, like just learning the system. But Quen, you
29:53
were staying another year. It's like it's like hold on, It's like you
29:57
guaranteed me that I was going to start my or after I red shirted.
30:03
So and I think he's already a better quarterback than Quinn yours. I know
30:06
we didn't see none of that this year, obviously because he was just handing
30:08
off. But the thing is, I've seen that man Quinn you weres playing
30:12
person in high school. That guy is that guy. I don't know.
30:17
I just feel like I feel like sometimes he makes some bad decisions, but
30:19
when he's on, yeah he's on. That guy is on. We've I've
30:26
seen him make some beautiful throws. And I think I think he's a better
30:30
quarterback than Zach Wilson. He's a better quarterback and Zach overall. Yeah,
30:36
you're you're you're not lying, That's what I'm saying. I think Quinn Ewers
30:40
is on. They once they see him in his pro day, once they
30:42
see all the intangibles, I think he's gonna make his way up draft boards.
30:45
Which is why I don't understand why he's not coming out this year,
30:48
because in my opinion. I think I get Drake Mays so just like Justin
30:55
Herbert two point zero kind of. But I don't know. Quinn Ewers is
30:59
more around that. I'm not saying he is him, but he's like that
31:02
more Joe Burrow esque, I think than he is to Joe Herbert. Justin
31:07
Herbert, you know why, I think that he might be staying. Okay,
31:11
So you got Kleb Williams, Drake May, Michael Pennix, JJ McCarthy,
31:14
Bo Nicks. You already have five of them already in the first round.
31:18
So you as a quarterback not necessarily that you are selfish, but you're
31:22
kind of have selfish tendencies that you have to be that selfish to be this
31:26
great, even at the college football level. So next year, if I'm
31:30
not missing any names, I'm just thinking at the top of my head,
31:33
it would be Quinn Yours and Shader standers for the top two quarterbacks going into
31:38
the D No, he has home er year, yeah, cart yes,
31:44
Carson Beck he has. This was his sophomore year, so I don't think
31:48
he'll enter right away though. I don't see it with Carson Beck, but
31:53
he could make a big jump. He is in that system with Georgia or
31:57
even he is, yeah, or even Jalen Milroe. So that would be
32:04
the top three right there. I think Quinn Yours he's trying to work his
32:07
way up to being the best quarterback in his draft class because again, but
32:10
you know what's bad about that is he could get bingched at any moment for
32:14
Arch Manning, and his draft stock just goes completely out the window. You
32:19
know, Like you have to take that into account. Sure you may not
32:21
be you may not become a first round draft pick, but you could get
32:24
drafted to a really good system, a really good thing learned behind a veteran,
32:29
maybe even just learn behind a career backup, take over the spot,
32:31
and you become the starter in the NFL. You know. So it's like,
32:36
I think I get the selfishness, but come on, man, like,
32:39
if you got an opportunity to go, you gotta go, especially with
32:43
a guy like arch Manning behind you. Who I get quin Yours is the
32:46
Texas boy. He's born and raised from Texas. He's Texas's son. But
32:52
the guy behind him is is not I'm not gonna say generational, but his
32:55
name is generational. Yeah, his name, his name carries so Texas is
33:00
gonna try getting that money as soon as they can. He could end up
33:05
being like a Spencer Rattler. Remember Spencer Rattler. He was supposed to be
33:08
the best best prospect coming out. The next thing, you know, we
33:12
got benched for Caleb Williams, so it could be it could be another thing
33:15
like that. I didn't even think about that right there. That's that would
33:20
be pretty interesting. But they're in good hands. They're going to the SEC.
33:24
They got a manning. Is there anything else you want to take away
33:29
from this before we move on to the NFL. No, I think we
33:31
kind of went off a little off topic, but we haven't had really like
33:35
in depth college football conversation, So there you'll go. Guys, Yeah,
33:38
well we're we're probably gonna be We're probably gonna do it as soon as the
33:44
big games they start coming around, because this is the time to talk about
33:47
college football. So yeah, there's not much I could say before I start
33:54
getting off topic talk start talking about Florida State. But all right, we'll
34:00
get into the NFL games. El was Week thirteen of the NFL. A
34:04
bunch of crazy stuff happened, and we're gonna start off with this money in
34:07
that game where there was definitely some crazy stuff happening. The Cincinnati Bengals,
34:12
who moved to six and six, beat the Jacksonville Jaguars where they had a
34:16
chance to be the number one seed in the AFC, losing over time thirty
34:20
four to thirty one. Josh, what was your biggest takeaway from this game?
34:24
First of all, I just want to say thank you. I never
34:28
thought i'd say this, but thank you Cincinnati Bengals for beating the Jacksonville Jaguars
34:34
for certain circumstances. We're gonna get two here in a second, but I
34:37
just want to say thank you to the Bengals. I hate you, but
34:40
thank you. But here we go. Jake Browning taking over Joe Joe Burrow
34:49
spot might might be. Might be I'm just saying he might be. I'm
34:53
just kidding he but he had a really great game. I wasn't expecting to
34:57
see this at all. I got I wasn't to see it in this game.
35:01
I was going into this thinking like, oh, Jacksonville is gonna come
35:04
in here, maybe like a twenty six, twenty four points to maybe the
35:09
Bengals seven ten points. It was gonna be a really good game for them,
35:14
but it just didn't happen that way. It was a complete opposite.
35:16
Jake Browning went toe to toe with Joe Burrow, which we'll get to in
35:20
a second, three fifty four to one touchdown. Jamar Chase had a really
35:25
big day. I was not expecting this. I wasn't expecting to push the
35:29
ball down the field like they were. Jamar Chase had eleven for one forty
35:31
nine and a touchdown. And it's not like he was making some like he
35:35
had a lot of yak, but it was also like a lot of He
35:37
made this crazy one handed catch on the side, he kind of bopped it,
35:42
brought it in. Then he made a couple of catches in the middle
35:44
of the field and he picked us an important first downs to in the game
35:47
and in overtime, so he was bond. He really showed why he's,
35:52
in my opinion, a top three receiver in the NFL. Joe Mixon just
35:58
did Joe Mixon things. He's never gonna like to rushing the ball, but
36:00
he gets touchdowns. He he he's able to change the pace a little bit.
36:06
But Chase brown I think, in my opinion, was nine for sixty
36:09
one rushing the football, and that was a really big that he makes some
36:13
really big runs in really big plays in this game that really helped the Bengals
36:15
get into good field position. So that's what helped them out quite a bit.
36:20
That's for the jag Ran side of the football. Trevor Lawrence goes down
36:23
with the ankle injury. Right now, they say it was an ankle sprain,
36:27
but in my opinion, I think it maybe a high ankle sprain.
36:30
So we probably won't see huntil the playoffs starts, if they even make the
36:31
playoffs, which we'll get to in it probably later. And but right now
36:36
they're eight and four and the Cults are right on their hills and the Texans
36:39
with seven and five seven and five, so that's something to monitor right there.
36:43
But the Trevor Lawrence was playing good up to the point before he got
36:45
hurt. I really thought if he stayed in this game, they probably would
36:49
have won. He went twenty two for twenty nine, two fifty eight,
36:52
two touchdowns, and then he even rushed for a touchdown on the ground.
36:55
And then Evan Ingram had a really big day. He just popped up,
37:00
popped off, popped popped off the screen nine for eighty two and I believe
37:05
two touchdowns after not having a one touchdown, after not having a single touchdown
37:08
during this whole season, which is great for him. But they walk away
37:13
with the l and it's probably in a very hard part, in a very
37:16
hard part of the season to have that, because every team that you want
37:22
to lose is all have the same record as you. With the Chiefs being
37:25
now eight and four, Jaguars are eight and four, Ravens nine and three,
37:30
and the Dolphins nine and three. You need you needed this win.
37:32
You would have been sitting pretty in first place, but now you drop to
37:36
maybe fighting for your division. So it was a pretty big game for the
37:40
Bengals because they're six and six now. I don't think they make the playoffs
37:44
this year, but it's really good signs of life for them. So did
37:49
did you watch Black Panther? Josh? Did you watch The Black Panther?
37:52
The first movie? Yeah? I did? You know? How King T'Challa
37:57
after Oh my goodness, I can't think Michael be Jordan's or Killmonger. After
38:01
Eric then comes back, He's like, I am not dead yet. Guess
38:07
what. The Bengals, they are not dead yet. There are six and
38:10
six, and honestly, the way Jake Browning played today, you couldn't see
38:15
a difference between Joe Burrow. Like, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to
38:19
Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, he still is a franchise quarterback. But the
38:22
way, that props to Zach Taylor for putting him in the right positions to
38:27
make every single play, Like he only had five incompletions. Right, There's
38:32
it's crazy. He looked like a damn good quarterback. And they play the
38:37
Colts Necks, which tough game, but then the Viking Steelers Chiefs, then
38:42
the Browns. So honestly, I could see them winning for out of these
38:45
five next games. I know that they have a couple tough losses, but
38:51
you could finish ten and seven and maybe you sneak into the playoffs and maybe
38:55
you make noise because it is an experienced defense and you do have all these
39:00
weapons here. So that's all I have to say. From the Bengal side,
39:05
you kind of covered the rest right there, But man, it just
39:07
sucks for Jacksonville because honestly, Trevor Lawrence, like there's nothing flashy about Trevor
39:15
Lawrence that shows up like he like, I know, he has like all
39:19
the tangibles, but like when you watch him play, there's nothing, nothing
39:23
looks special about him. But he's just real consistent and he covers up.
39:30
Yeah, he covers up a lot for this Jacksonville Jaguars offense. In my
39:35
opinion, I know CJ. Bethard, he looked, he looked alright,
39:37
But he's Trevor Lawrence. He's a franchise quarterback. Nine times out of ten,
39:42
he's a top top ten quarterback. Just didn't have his best stretch.
39:45
But these past three games he was having a better stretch and they scored twenty
39:50
eight points with Trevor Lawrence. If you would have said that before the game,
39:52
then you would have been like, all right, Jacksonville defense, who
39:55
usually is better. They would have held this Bengals offense to seventeen to twenty
40:00
one points or whatever. So this offense did enough to win the game.
40:05
So again, just big letdown being the one seed. Because even if you
40:10
win this game without Trevor, then maybe you could you could lose a couple
40:15
of games right here and you'll still be fine. You'll have a two game
40:19
lead over the division. But now you're gonna, like you said, struggle
40:22
about even making the playoffs because the Jaguars who they play next, They play
40:28
the Browns, then the Ravens, Buccaneers, Panthers, Titans. So three
40:32
out of those three out of the next four games or five games they should
40:37
win. But if you have a backup quarterback and CJ. Beththerdon, then
40:40
who knows, who knows where you're gonna end up being at anything else you
40:45
wanna take away from this. Oh, Christian kirk Wood down with the injury.
40:52
That's something to monitor for the Jaguars also because he is a big part
40:57
of their offense. He's their most consistent receiver by far for their team,
41:01
and he just went down, I think with the groin injury, i'd like
41:05
to say, on the very first play of the game. So that's something
41:07
to see if it's lingering or if it's if it's a one week or multiple
41:12
week injury for them. Yeah, so we'll see. It's just injuries.
41:16
They suck for Jacksonville. But all right, this Sunday night football game.
41:21
I've been ready to talk about this game because I don't I don't know how
41:24
many loyal listeners we have on this but somebody made a prediction here talking about
41:30
the Packers beating the Chiefs, and I was called the man mad man.
41:36
I guess I'm sticking with the with Marvel theme because they called me a mad
41:40
man. I'm kind of like that, I'll see. But the Packers they
41:45
upset the Chiefs twenty seven to nineteen, in which they had a chance to
41:51
go in for a hell Mary but didn't happen. Packers, they win.
41:55
Josh, what did you take away from this game? Because I know this
41:58
is your team right here, I'm talking about the Packers first. The Chiefs
42:04
their problems I'll get to in a minute. But the Packers, I'll give
42:07
them their props. They played a really great game. I can't sit here
42:10
and say they didn't. They outplayed the Kansas City Chiefs and they and Jordan
42:15
Love outplayed Patrick Mahomes in this game. He really did. And I'll sit
42:19
here and admit it because I was watching this game while driving back from San
42:22
Antonio that Jordan Love went to sixty seven three touchdowns and he was making some
42:29
really good throws. There was a lot of This is a lot of stuff
42:30
that we saw these last couple of weeks. Is what we saw at the
42:34
beginning of the season from him where he was making a lot of big plays
42:37
and all this, and then he had a really bad stretch like six games
42:39
in between, five games in between, where it just kind of looked like,
42:42
Oh, did they make a mistake leaving Aaron Rodgers for this guy.
42:45
But he's really come on a pretty strongly the last couple of games, and
42:49
I think it's coming with growth. I think Mattlaflor has really taken over the
42:52
play calling and really like really put into effect of allowing his quarterback to make
42:58
better, really good decisions. And they were killing the Chiefs across the middle
43:00
of the field in this one, and it was something we haven't seen all
43:04
year from the Chiefs where their defense has really been had. So in this
43:07
game, Jordan Love really dotted us up. Christian Watson had a really big
43:14
game. I'm sorry to see him. I'm sad to see him go down
43:16
at the end of it, pulling up with the hamstring injury. That's something
43:19
to monitor. He can't seem to shake the injury bug this early into his
43:22
career. But he went seven for seventy one two touchdowns and rushed two for
43:27
fifteen and I believe a touchdown or no, he didn't have a touchdown rusting,
43:30
but he had two touchdowns receiving and then he just he looked he popped
43:36
off the screen in this one. Romeo Dallas for for seventy two continues a
43:39
pretty good year for him. So it was just something that the Packers did
43:45
that the Chiefs couldn't. And that's that's score points, score touchdowns when they
43:49
needed them the most, make big plays when they needed them the most in
43:52
this one, and that's how the Packers came away with this dub. And
43:53
I can't really take it away from them. But let's get to the chefs
43:57
side of the ball. I think, okay, defensively, the Chiefs can
44:01
have a bad game. I'm gonna say it. They can have a bad
44:04
game. This is their first bad game they've had all year. And you
44:08
can't expect your defense to be perfect every week in and week out. I
44:13
get you, I get some defense are but the Chiefs defense has been if
44:16
you put perfect up on a thing, you should put their picture next to
44:20
it, because that's what they've been all season. And this loss it's not
44:23
on them. I really don't think it is. I Drew Tranquill, who
44:27
we've been harping on me and you this whole season as being a great addition
44:32
to this defense, probably the best linebacker on this team this year, goes
44:37
down early first drive of the game, taking the quad Father's squad to his
44:42
head. He goes down, so he's out for the rest of the game.
44:45
That's a big loss because that's your main signal caller on defense going down,
44:50
and Drew Trankle has been magnificent this year, and that's a big loss.
44:52
Then later on into the game, your second signal caller in Brian Cook,
44:57
who controls all the dbs, goes down with the nasty ankle with a
45:00
nasty ankle twist, which he may miss the rest of the season, but
45:04
they're saying that he may be back for playoffs. So that's something good to
45:07
monitor because they look nasty like the the injury look nasty for anyone that was
45:12
watching that game, So that's something good to monitor. And then Charles Menuh,
45:15
who are our second best or i say, our third best rush defensive
45:21
our defensive lineman, goes down leaves the game a little bit. So the
45:25
defense they can have a bad game they got had this week, and I
45:30
think what we've seen from the majority of the season, this isn't just this
45:34
one game, isn't who they are. I think we've seen who they are,
45:36
especially againto really good teams. So that's something I'm not too worried about
45:39
the defense. And I don't think really anyone that watches football should really blame
45:45
the Chiefs defense for anything this year. Now, let's get to the side
45:47
that we can blame everything on, and that's the offense. So thirty four
45:52
year old Travis Kelce still expected to do it, to do everything as it
45:57
is. I like how Rashiet Rice is getting more involved. But can I
46:00
tell you something, Alfonso, And let me ask you a question. Switch
46:04
wide receiver coming out of this draft class had the highest vertical had the highest
46:09
vertical vertical jump. Was it Rashi Rice? It was Rashi Rice? Thank
46:17
you, Thank you for answering that. So he had a forty one inch
46:21
vertical coming out of college. Every single if you, if anyone goes on
46:25
YouTube and types in Rashi Rice college highlights, you know what they're all gonna
46:29
be. They're all gonna be vertical, over the top, over your man,
46:32
fifty to fifty balls. Why are we not throwing fifty fifty balls to
46:37
Rashi Rice in the red zone. Why aren't we throwing it on a hill
46:39
Mary? Why isn't Rashie Rice on the football field on a hill mary throw?
46:43
Why isn't he only getting average at the target like two yards? Is
46:45
he a Flowers? He's bigger than Zay Flowers. So I understand what's going
46:50
on right now. So let's get him involved a little bit better. Let's
46:54
push the ball down the field of Rashi Rice. That would be That would
46:58
be tremendous. And I don't get what the Chiefs did not learn last week.
47:01
When you run your offense between Pacheco, Kelsey and Rashi Rice and let
47:06
everyone else fill in, you'll probably put up some points. But no,
47:08
they wanted to have Justin Watson, mv Ass and sky Moore play one hundred
47:17
and seventeen snaps. Yet on Sunday night, you know what, they combined
47:22
for three catches for thirty yards, and there was an interception where sky Moore
47:27
was supposed to run a fade route on a rub on an RPO where he
47:30
stops running, turns around and where he's supposed to be there's an interception because
47:36
Mahomes was throwing an anticipation route that he never throws a sky Moore, hoping
47:39
that he would be in the right spot at the right time, and it
47:43
was an interception that just can't happen. And then their early early struggles in
47:47
this game. I don't know, y'all can't ask me about the Chiefs because
47:51
I'm just gonna go crazy, like early struggles in this game where we had
47:55
where the Chiefs offensive line is the best offensive line football and not allowing Patrick
48:00
Mahomes to be touched. He gets touched the least amount in the NFL.
48:05
And they had three sacks in the red zone on the first two drives of
48:08
the game, and they settle for field goals, and there was a terrible
48:10
false start that we've seen all year from Juwan Taylor he had again. And
48:16
then I'm not mad at Creed Humphrey because linemen are taught to grap to hold
48:22
once you got that position, and they threw a flag on that that makes
48:24
no sense. Even Creed Humphrey was like, what I think because Mahomes rolled
48:30
out in the Yeah, I think he I think it, Yeah, so,
48:35
But I'm not really mad at him at that. He was doing his
48:37
job. He doesn't he doesn't know when Mahomes is gonna roll out, So
48:40
that's just a matter of that. But other than that, you got to
48:43
finish those drives, man. And then one thing I really want to harp
48:45
on, why was the best player on the football field that day? Isaiah
48:51
paiceco only have one carry in the whole fourth quarter? He was If you
48:55
watch that game, he was the best player on the football field between both
49:00
teams in my opinion, outside of Jordan Love. The whole game. He
49:04
had eighteen for one, ten, one touchdown, and the receiving three for
49:07
thirteen. He was getting everything done for the Chiefs on offense that whole game.
49:10
It was all through Isaiah p tot checko. Why did he only get
49:14
one touch in that fourth quarter? I'm sure he tried knocking a guy out
49:17
to in the game and kind of set us back a little bit. But
49:20
other than that, he was perfect throughout the whole entire game. He was
49:22
carrying bodies, he was tearing grown men fifteen yards. So that's just a
49:29
little bit of the reaction that I had from the Chiefs game. A little
49:32
bit of a reaction, yeah, a little reaction. I couldn't open it.
49:37
But that vs nickname. That's a good one right there. That's real
49:42
creative. Put him. Before I get into anything, I just want to
49:50
say I sent this to you earlier, Josh, but the Chiefs under Patrick
49:53
Mahomes before the season were only held under twenty points six times throughout his entire
49:59
career. He already happened five times already this year. So again, it
50:02
could be an ERGB enemy problem. But I think the biggest thing is that
50:08
in this offense, Patrick Mahomes has to play perfect every single game or else
50:14
they won't win. That's how it is, and that's not even enough.
50:19
Well, okay, Patrick Mahomes, let's be real, Patrick Mahomes. He
50:23
is still the best quarterback in the league. I'm not trying to argue that,
50:27
but he isn't playing perfect football in which they need him to play.
50:31
Patrick Mahomes last week against the Raiders played damn near perfect football to get thirty
50:37
one points. And if he doesn't play perfect football, they're gonna lose.
50:40
Even with the good defense. I agree with you one hundred percent. Defenses
50:44
they have letdown games. A defense can't be perfect throughout the entire time.
50:47
Maybe it would happen another one to two times. But do I expect us
50:52
in the playoffs? Probably not, because the Chiefs are experienced team. Will
50:55
they win that's a whole different story. We're not going to get into.
51:00
Yeah, this Chiefs offense, I agree with what you're saying. And as
51:04
far as that interception with sky Moore Mahomes, I feel like that's kind of
51:07
sixty forty sixty on sky Moore, forty on forty on Mahomes. But again
51:13
again, Mahomes has to play perfect in this offense and this offense needs to
51:19
become. If you're not gonna get Rashid Rice in this offense, you're gonna
51:22
need to run the football with Isaiah Pacheco twenty five to thirty times, get
51:27
kind of with Edwards Zhilaire some more touches. Just play through your defense.
51:30
If you have to win twenty one, twenty four to seventeen ball games,
51:36
then do that. That works in the playoffs there. But as far as
51:40
from the Packer's side, Jordan love that dude. Ever since I harped on
51:45
him about five six weeks ago, he's been different. So this past five
51:51
games, he's been averaging two hundred and seventy five passing yards and two touchdowns
51:54
a game. This dude is becoming something really nice and making his way up
52:00
to being a top ten quarterback. And now watch out everybody because they're making
52:06
their way in the playoffs. And underneath Matt lafleor I don't know if you
52:09
knew this stat. They showed it on Sunday Night Football. There's the Packers
52:15
are sixteen or no in December underneath Matt Lafleor. So they played their best
52:20
football in December and that's exactly what you need them to do, and they
52:23
were able to run the football very well. I was very surprised by that.
52:27
But again, Drew Trankill him going out, that's a big glue to
52:30
the defense right there. As soon as I saw him go out, you
52:34
just saw a big difference between between him and then I can't think of the
52:39
other line by Crocker, yeah, conquering. There was just a big difference
52:44
there. And as far as with the penalties, it just makes no sense
52:50
to me. I'm not gonna blame the penalties right here because the Packers they
52:52
played the better game. They played the better game here. But as far
52:57
as with the refs, as far as making up calls or not making up
53:00
calls, because Patrick Mahomes on that last drive he was fighting four yards,
53:05
so that unnecessary roughness made no sense, and that passing afference on mvs that
53:09
should have been called, but you kind of felt the refs. It was
53:14
weird seeing the refs in real time, seeing them do a makeup call for
53:17
the Packers, which is crazy. If you see a flag, throw the
53:22
flag, that's simple, That's how it should go. But again, the
53:28
Chiefs, they had plenty of opportunities to win the game. I'm not gonna
53:30
blame this just on a single drive. And the biggest thing that changed this
53:36
game, like you mentioned, and the two red zone drivers of Packers and
53:39
Chiefs had The Chiefs got six points, the Packers got fourteen points, and
53:45
that just changed the game. From right there. Jordan Loveheel was comfortable the
53:47
entire time. He didn't need to press. So yeah, just props to
53:52
the Packers for upsetting the Chiefs. And I'm not the Chiefs are still number
53:59
two in my book, but I'm not worried because I never viewed them as
54:02
this top tier, top top of the top of geez. I can't talk
54:08
either top tier team as far as ahead of the Ravens. They could be
54:13
everybody else in the AFC, just not the Ravens in my opinion, because
54:16
they the defense is match. But again, we brought up that last week,
54:22
so I really don't want to argue that. But is there anything else
54:24
you want to get into with this game about the penalties for Chiefs fans trying
54:30
to call out that the refs did this, did that? Did that?
54:32
The play? The calling was terrible for both teams, Like both teams were
54:37
getting some terrible some trash calls. The Chiefs were getting trash calls that shouldn't
54:42
have gone. I get that you have to you should throw the flag on
54:45
that passing appearance call because it was the most blatant passing apperance, Like if
54:50
you want a textbook passing appearance call, that's what you should put point your
54:52
finger at. But that we didn't lose the game because of that call.
54:57
We lost the game way before that. So I just want to put that
54:59
out there Chiefs fans that are out there crying about it. We should have
55:01
won the game before and we're the better team. We are the better team
55:05
than the Green Bay Packers. They just they just outplayed us that day,
55:08
and that happens in the NFL. These are NFL players, NFL teams for
55:13
a reason. So just got to take it how it is any given Sunday.
55:17
But before I move on to the next game, I kind of feel
55:21
like Jordan Love. I know there's there's gonna be Aaron Rodgers comparisons, but
55:25
I kind of feel like he's more of the Brett Favre type. He's more
55:29
of the There's gonna be some crazy throws in there where it shouldn't be thrown,
55:32
but there's gonna be the these amazing plays like that fourth and two where
55:37
he threw it over Chris Jones right in his face, right into dot to
55:40
Romeo Dobbs, or that touchdown of Christian Watson. So there's gonna be these
55:45
erratic throws with Jordan Love, but there's also gonna be these great throws.
55:49
I feel like he's it's gonna be real nice for the Packers because remember they
55:53
had that extension for him. It was like four years, twenty million,
55:58
so he's only gonna be making twenty million. So yeah, the Packers,
56:00
they have another franchise quarterback on their hands. But let's go ahead and move
56:05
into this next game, the three o'clock games. We're gonna start off with
56:09
this one real quick. I don't feel like there's much takeaway from this one.
56:13
It was the Los Angeles Rams versus the Cleveland Browns, in which the
56:16
Rams they won thirty six to nineteen. Josh, is there anything specifically wanted
56:22
to take away from this game? The Browns offense looked a lot better with
56:27
Joe Flacco. I'll put that out there. They really did. They were
56:30
really in the game up all the way onto the fourth quarter and one interception
56:32
mistake that kind of separate the game by quite a bit by the Rams,
56:37
and they just kind of took off from there. Puka Nakua played through some
56:39
pretty played through a couple played through a shoulder injury. In his game,
56:44
he balled out for for one to five to one touchdown. Kyron Williams twenty
56:49
one for eighty eight, three for twenty four. And as for Cooper Cup,
56:52
I like how they got him involved. They tried getting him involved a
56:54
lot more in this game. He has six receptions for thirty nine yards in
56:57
touchdowns, which doesn't pop out in the box score really, but when you
57:00
saw how they were trying to use him instead of him being double team the
57:04
whole time like he has been all year. They were really running him pre
57:07
snap around, so he didn't get pressed off the line, so he didn't
57:10
get double teamed off the line, So it gave him an opportunity to kind
57:13
of get a touchdown, get the ball, get first downs. So that's
57:16
something I like that I liked from the Rams, and they are on a
57:20
roll. They are fighting for a playoff spot right now along with the Packers.
57:22
So that's just something I took away from this game. Yeah, the
57:28
biggest thing that I want to take away it is from this side. It's
57:30
just real quick. Let me talk about the Browns. I know Joe Flacco,
57:35
he could pass the ball, but he shouldn't be passing the ball forty
57:37
four times like you changed this entire offense. You should be the first game.
57:43
Yeah, yeah, exactly, not the first game. You only ran
57:45
the ball twenty three times, and you should have just played through your defense
57:50
and again you see a great defense have a letdown game, which is bound
57:53
to happen. That's why you're supposed to run the football and just play play
57:58
your style. Don't change it up because Joe Flagup came in. It's not
58:00
like you're adding Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow to this mix. It's a quarterback
58:06
who can throw the ball down the field when you need him to. But
58:09
as far as from the Rams side, you're seeing an offensive line who can
58:14
hold up just enough and all these skill people or skill position players around Matthew
58:19
Stafford, and he's starting to cook. Karen Williams he is nice. Pooka
58:23
Nakua obviously, Cooper Cup, Tyler Higbee's it's looking really scary. I feel
58:30
like if they do make it into the playoffs, not necessarily that they can
58:34
make a deep playoff run, but they could give a team whoever they play,
58:37
they could give them a scare because this offense could go blow for blow
58:40
with anybody. Because Sean McVay, he is one of the best coaches in
58:44
the league. And I know they don't have the easiest schedule, but the
58:49
way they're clicking right now, it could look really nice. And I can
58:52
see them winning four out of their next five games because they have the Ravens
58:55
who are coming off of by which I feel like is gonna be the tough
58:58
one. Then you have the Giants and then you have the Niners the last
59:04
week of the season, which they may be resting or whatever. That's why
59:07
I don't consider it a tough game, because that's that's what the Niners they
59:12
usually do. They're usually in a good position. And even though before this
59:15
next game we're going to get into, they're still behind. So is there
59:21
anything else you want to take away from this game right here? Just one
59:25
more quick thing, because so he can get into more important games. Well
59:30
is an important game. But the outside of Cooper Cup and Pukkua their weapons
59:35
into two at Well and Chiefs Legend DeMarcus Robinson. They played really well in
59:39
that game, and it really showed up on the screen because they both popped
59:43
out pretty good in deep ball situations and then a little bit in the red
59:46
zone. So that's something I'm monitor to. This team is starting to get
59:49
hot, and with Matthew Stafford at the helm, that's a little bit scary.
59:52
Yeah, no, it is. They have plenty of weapons and it's
59:55
crazy just from one year of rebuilding now they're already back in the playoff contention.
1:00:00
But let's go ahead and get into this next game. The game that
1:00:04
everybody they were they were hyped for this week. It was the game of
1:00:07
the week the San Francisco forty nine Ers versus the Eagles and what's the Niners?
1:00:13
They stomped the Eagles in which they won forty two to nineteen. Josh,
1:00:17
what was your biggest takeaway from this one? The forty nine Ers left
1:00:22
a statement that they were the better team last day, that they believe that
1:00:27
they were the better team in the NFC Championship last year, and if their
1:00:30
starting quarterback didn't get hurt, that they would probably be second place, just
1:00:36
like the Eagles were last year. But because you all know who the Chiefs,
1:00:39
they weren't gonna lose last year. I put that out there. But
1:00:43
the uh. As far as the forty nine Ers, they really left a
1:00:45
statement in this game, and in my opinion, they showed that the best
1:00:49
team in the NFL. I don't know if you can agree, especially I
1:00:52
agree, but in my opinion, the best all around team in the NFL.
1:00:54
They proved that this week to me. To me, they have the
1:00:59
best probably arguably a top three player in the game in Christian McCaffrey, who
1:01:02
has been balling all season. He had another great game seventeen for ninety three
1:01:07
a touchdown, and they had three for forty through the air. That's just
1:01:09
a typical Christian McCaffrey day. It doesn't get much better than that from him.
1:01:13
I mean it does, It gets a hell of a lot better.
1:01:15
But that's just the floor right there. That's not even him going full speed.
1:01:17
But you know who had a really big day and who I think is
1:01:21
the MVP of this whole game, Deebo Samuel. Deebo Samuel played terrific in
1:01:25
this game. He had four for one sixteen two touchdowns and then he rushed
1:01:30
for three for twenty two in a touchdown. And if you watch this game,
1:01:34
he was breaking tackles left and right. He was doing everything. This
1:01:37
team after the catch is insane. They have Brandon Ayuku's incredible after the catch
1:01:42
and George Kittle's always been incredible after the catch. And that's this is a
1:01:45
team that's clicking right now. They're hitting on all cylinders. This defense is
1:01:49
clicking ever since they brought in Chase Young. This game, they didn't light
1:01:52
you up too much, but they had it still a couple of sacks in
1:01:55
this game, well, let me see how much exactly they had. They
1:01:59
had three act this game. That's still that's that's great. That gets the
1:02:04
job done against this Eagles offensive line, it really does, because it doesn't
1:02:07
get better than that in the NFL too much. So the forty nine ers
1:02:12
dominated this game. They from start to finish. And that's two of the
1:02:15
top the two top teams that they that they're compared to in the NFC,
1:02:19
they dominated both of them this year. And that's something that people need to
1:02:22
monitor and really harp on because they just they they didn't just like walk in
1:02:28
and beat these teams. They annihilated these teams both time that both times that
1:02:31
they played these top teams. So for me, the San Franco forty nine
1:02:35
ers just prove that they're the top dog in the whole NFL in my opinion.
1:02:39
So the San Francisco forty nine ers, they walked into their house,
1:02:45
got a sandwich out of the fridge, got a coke, put their shoes
1:02:51
all on the couch and lifted their feet up, just chilled there. The
1:02:55
San Francisco forty nine ers, like you said, are the best team win
1:03:00
healthy. No matter what. I don't care AFC, NFC, they will
1:03:04
annihilate you. They they beat the best teams in the league like no other.
1:03:10
It's it's ridiculous. They're nine to zero this year when their whole group
1:03:15
is together. And like you said, Deebo Samuel after calling out the Eagles
1:03:22
last year, he stood on business. He basically said, no, I'm
1:03:24
doubling down with this and it's just looking very scary. And I know you
1:03:30
brought up the sacks, but eleven pass deflections for the San Francisco forty nine
1:03:36
Ers defense. So not only are they getting to the quarterback and stopping them
1:03:39
run, they're great in coverage too, because throughout this game, Jalen Hurts
1:03:45
he had plenty of time to throw the ball, but it was just great
1:03:47
coverage the entire time. And eventually they're gonna get home. But you talked
1:03:53
about the Niners already. I'm gonna more focus in on the Eagles. What
1:03:58
did I say last week? I say that how they're winning these ballgames is
1:04:01
not sustainable and eventually is going to catch up to them, and which I
1:04:04
thought the Niners they would do. I didn't think it was going to be
1:04:08
this bad. I thought it was going to be like a thirty one to
1:04:11
seventeen type of ballgame, but not forty two to nineteen. The Eagles,
1:04:15
they did start off good, they drove down the field, but what did
1:04:18
the Niners do hold them situationally? It's kind of like what the Chiefs and
1:04:21
Packers did. So the Chiefs they only scored six points in their two drives
1:04:26
like the Eagles. The Niners they scored fourteen points in their two drives to
1:04:30
the red zone. So just big different, just situational football. Kyle Shanahan,
1:04:34
he proved he's in a different class than Nick Sirianni and Nick Sirianni.
1:04:39
He is a damn good coach. But yeah, how the Eagles they win,
1:04:43
it's not sustainable at all. And then this Eagles defense, they have
1:04:46
shown no life at all throughout this entire season. I don't care what y'all
1:04:51
say. Against the Bills, they got towards last week. It should have
1:04:55
been a game winning touchdown against Dallas. There's different stuff. That's the biggest
1:05:00
thing for me. And there's only so much Jalen Hurts can do to backpack
1:05:04
this entire team right here. There's only so much you could do. And
1:05:09
they weren't able to get a run game going eighteen carries forty six yards.
1:05:12
I think two point six yards per carry. So yeah, you weren't able
1:05:16
to run the ball either. I know Aj Brown he did have a good,
1:05:19
good game, but that was more at the very beginning. So yeah,
1:05:24
we're just gonna see how Philly they respond because this is the first time
1:05:28
where Philly they had to or they have to go through adversity because I know
1:05:32
they lost earlier in the season too. I can't think of the team right
1:05:36
now. The Jets. Oh yeah, the Jets, and so they did
1:05:42
respond. They ended up responding against Miami and the Commanders Cowboys. So let's
1:05:45
see how you respond now. But it's gonna be a big game with big
1:05:48
implications. We're not going to get into it right now, but definitely a
1:05:51
big game. So what did you want to take away from the Eagle side,
1:05:55
Josh? The forty nine Ers shut down the run a game completely.
1:06:00
It was non existent in this game. They averaged two point sixty yards per
1:06:04
carry and they only did had eighteen attempts on the game. The Eagles were
1:06:09
in a situation where they just felt like against that front seven, they couldn't
1:06:13
do anything, so they just went completely away from it. That's not what
1:06:15
the Eagle should do. Because that's who the Eagles are. They are run
1:06:17
football team with AJ Brown Devonte Smith, which is what makes them so good.
1:06:21
And they just couldn't be themselves in this game because they were so rattled
1:06:25
the whole time. They were playing catch up the entire game, and it
1:06:29
just wasn't going to work out for them. This Eagles defense is not the
1:06:32
same defense as it was last year. We saw it versus the Chiefs,
1:06:36
We've seen it versus the Cowboys, and we've now seen it versus forty nine
1:06:39
Ers. I understand the Chiefs didn't put up points, but in that first
1:06:42
half they were really moving the ball against that Eagles defense, and if the
1:06:45
Chiefs didn't make stupid decisions like they usually do, they should have blew them
1:06:48
out in the second half also. And then versus the Cowboys, we saw
1:06:51
the Cowboys get come close to scoring, literally inches away multiple times from scoring
1:06:58
against them, and then they were move the ball really well against them also.
1:07:01
And then now we saw the Niners just really take a tear apart this
1:07:05
defense. And it's just something to see because these DB's aren't the same.
1:07:09
Darius Slay isn't the same guy he usually has been. He's getting older.
1:07:13
James Bradburry is getting older. He's not the same guy that he usually has
1:07:15
been. Where there they If we look at over the last ten years,
1:07:18
who has been the the two cornerbacks who have what's it called followed receivers wherever
1:07:27
they go, which is playing on the island versus all these guys, they
1:07:30
have probably been in the top three of cornerbacks that do this. They're not
1:07:33
the same men and man corners they used to be. I'm just gonna bret
1:07:36
it out there. And then sure, the Eagles signed Darius Leonard, which
1:07:40
maybe if we did this three years ago would have been like, oh crap,
1:07:45
they got Darius Leonard. But this isn't the same Darius Leonard who people
1:07:47
thought might have been the best linebacker in football. He's not that guy anymore.
1:07:53
If you watch the tape, these back problems that he has had really
1:07:57
have derailed his career because he's still young. But he cannot move the same.
1:08:00
If you put on that tape and watch Darius Lennard over the last two
1:08:03
seasons when he has played, it's like you're watching a guy running forward and
1:08:08
his legs are moving running straight up in his legs are just moving underneath them.
1:08:11
He's not the same explosive guy that he was, and you can obviously
1:08:14
tell his confidence isn't there anymore. So I don't see how that move is
1:08:17
gonna help. Even if the Cowboys got him, it was gonna help them
1:08:20
if the Chiefs and if any continder got him. I don't see how that
1:08:24
move was gonna help anybody because I don't think he starts. I don't think
1:08:28
he's better than the Kobe Dean who went down at this point in their careers.
1:08:30
I don't think he's better than I think the Eagles just kind of wasted
1:08:34
a spot with this one. I may be proven wrong, but it could
1:08:38
be another Jalen Smith situation where people thought, oh, let's go sign him.
1:08:41
He's he was considered one of the best at one point. I don't
1:08:44
know, so that's something to monitor for them. I just think this Eagles
1:08:49
team is gonna have to really put up or shut up because they are one
1:08:51
of the cockiest teams in the NFL, so especially with that head coach,
1:08:56
So they're gonna have to They have this big game coming up versus the Cowboys,
1:08:59
They're gonna have to put up her shut up. Yeah, it's It's
1:09:01
definitely gonna be a big game. Man. I'm already nervous talking about that
1:09:05
game right there, because you're you're kind of towards the end of your tough
1:09:10
schedule. But I know that you play the Cowboys this week. But say
1:09:15
if you lose to Dallas, you play a desperate Seattle team that following Monday
1:09:19
night. So's it won't look good if you could go from being the best
1:09:27
team in the league, being ten and one to possibly being ten and four
1:09:30
in a span of just three weeks. So they needed to reull it back
1:09:34
in. I do think that this offense will have a bounce back game.
1:09:39
I can't trust this defense as much, so I'm not going to get into
1:09:43
the Cowboys side yet. We could talk about that a little bit later,
1:09:45
maybe during predictions, but let's go go ahead and move on into this next
1:09:49
game. Unless you have any more questions. All right, well, we're
1:09:54
gonna talk about the last three o'clock game. It was your guy, Baker
1:09:59
Mayfield, in which they beat Bryce Young in the Carolina Panthers twenty one to
1:10:03
eighteen. And they're still alive in the NFC South, the trashiest division in
1:10:10
the NFC. Uh. Anything you want to take away from this, we
1:10:14
can go quickly to this game. I think the Panthers are the Panthers,
1:10:20
we know who they are. As for the Buccaneers, let's just come in
1:10:25
the greatness of Mike Evans. Just real quick. Seven for one, sixty
1:10:29
two, one touchdown, ten straight seasons with one thousand yards. Future NFL
1:10:33
Hall of Famer, just had another big day. He's probably on his way
1:10:36
to have his second best season, which we talked about earlier of his career.
1:10:41
He's on pace to do that this year, and he's gonna and you
1:10:44
could argue his best season of his career because he's gonna have more, probably
1:10:48
gonna have more touchdowns and he's ever scored it and he's second in NFL in
1:10:51
touchdowns. I did not expect this this year from Mike Evans. I thought
1:10:56
there's gonna be more even split with him and Chris Godwin. But Mike Evans
1:10:59
is showing why he's superior receiver and why he's mister reliable. So yeah,
1:11:05
that's just what I wanted to talk about in this game mainly was just Mike
1:11:08
Evans and his greatness. Yeah, I agree with you. One hundred percent.
1:11:12
We're not gonna spend much time on that game because again, it was
1:11:15
kind of a slow game. But this next game right here, it was
1:11:18
the start of the twelve o'clock games. It was the Miami Dolphins versus the
1:11:21
Washington Commanders, and what's the Dolphins? They won forty five to fifteen.
1:11:27
Tua had a good day, Tyreek had a good day. Did you want
1:11:30
to break this down right here? I just we're just gonna see with the
1:11:38
Dolphins coming up, because they do have a tough schedule coming up in these
1:11:42
next couple of weeks, so we're gonna really find out who they are and
1:11:45
they beat another team that's below five hundred. With the Washington Commanders, it's
1:11:49
gonna go against him until they beat a team above five hundred. Yeah,
1:11:53
but the Commanders aren't looking as high powered as they were at the beginning of
1:11:58
the season. Like Sam how a lot. It is just I think teams
1:12:01
are starting to figure it out a little bit. And then Brian Robinson,
1:12:03
my guy going getting hurt a little a little early into this game and leaving.
1:12:09
I'm glad the bye week's coming up so he can rest up. Doesn't
1:12:12
help this team out at all because he really is like the engine that kind
1:12:15
of like dictates I think a lot of what the Commanders do because he is
1:12:17
their main running back. But as for the Dolphins side, just just continuance
1:12:24
of dominance by Tyreek Hill one for five for one to fifty seven and two
1:12:28
touchdowns. There's no better receiver in the game of football this year in my
1:12:33
opinion than Tyreek Hill. I mean, no one can argue against that.
1:12:36
If Justin Jefferson was healthy, maybe he would be on the same pace because
1:12:40
he was last year with him. They were both fighting for that two thousand
1:12:44
yard mark last year. So that's kind of something that I wish we saw
1:12:47
this year again, was that that little race, that little push between them
1:12:50
two again. But but Tyreek Hill, Man, you just can't. You
1:12:56
can't knock the guy. That's a Chiefs legend right there. That's a Super
1:12:58
Bowl champion. But I don't love him as much as I used to,
1:13:01
But that's that guy. Davon A. Chen I'm surprised had seventeen carries in
1:13:06
this game. That's something I didn't expect. I thought with his injuries that
1:13:10
they were going to really limit him a lot. With ten carries hopefully they
1:13:13
get explosive to play, but nah, they fed him that rock. They
1:13:15
were like, nope, I don't care if you get hurt. We have
1:13:18
multiple people like you, so we're just gonna use you. So he had
1:13:21
seventeen for seventy three, two touchdowns, another good day for him. He's
1:13:25
been nothing but solid when he is on the field, So that's really good
1:13:29
for them. I just want to see them do it against really good teams.
1:13:32
Yeah, I agree with you like that. They won't be able to
1:13:34
prove anything to the last three games of the year. And the biggest thing
1:13:41
that I want to take away from this game is you don't realize how physical
1:13:45
the Miami Dolphins are because they have so much track speed on them. They
1:13:49
bring a physicality that you don't see just watching the games. But just going
1:13:55
up against the Commanders, they just broke them down. And if they could
1:14:00
bring that physicality against the better teams, maybe that's gonna put the edge over
1:14:04
them. So again, like you pretty much broke everything down right there.
1:14:11
They have nothing to prove or against the bottom of the barrel five hundred teams.
1:14:16
They got the Titans next week, so yeah, nothing really you could
1:14:20
prove, So We'll move on to this next game right here, in which
1:14:26
it was the Atlanta Falcons beating the New York Jets thirteen to eight, in
1:14:31
which, no, the Jets, they didn't score touchdown. It was two
1:14:35
field goals in a safety, So don't get too excited there. So anything
1:14:42
you took away from this one right here, because I know this one was
1:14:45
a slow one as well. Jets have a good defense. Falcons played a
1:14:50
bad offense and they have a good defense too. But so that's what I
1:14:54
really taken away. Vijon is starting to get a workload. Thank you,
1:14:59
Arthur Smith, appreciate it. I'm just said it didn't turn into anything crazy
1:15:01
for fantasy. But he had eighteen for fifty three. I'm glad to see
1:15:04
that he's actually touching the football. McCole pruitt, savior of the day,
1:15:10
had a touchdown, one catch, twenty yards, one touchdown. Who the
1:15:15
hell is that guy? But you know he had a touchdown, So that
1:15:17
pits for for fifty one. But I doesn't it what bothers me? And
1:15:21
I understand Sauce and DJ Reed are guarding him. Drake linnon only has Drake.
1:15:26
You couldn't scheme up something for Drake Linden to get open for one for
1:15:29
eight, one for eight on five targets. Uh, that's just not going
1:15:32
to cut it for me. Desmond Ritter, I understand, is not.
1:15:35
He's just a he's just a fill in before they get their guy at some
1:15:39
point. But he had he had a I guess an okay game for what
1:15:44
they put out there. So that's just They just moved to five hundred,
1:15:46
leading the division six and six. That's good for them. Just got to
1:15:49
keep the train rolling. As for the Jets, that's just the same thing
1:15:54
we've seen all year. They only average two and a half yards per care
1:15:58
This whole game alone was only two and a half yards per carry average for
1:16:00
both teams. That is insane. There was no run game, there was
1:16:03
no pass game. This is a straight defense all the way around. And
1:16:08
then Zach Wilson just got named the starter. I'm going in too next week.
1:16:13
And I don't know how you do that after binging him. His confidence
1:16:15
must be like absolutely destroyed after doing this to him three straight seasons, So
1:16:19
I don't know. That's just this Jet situation is just terrible. Yeah,
1:16:27
only thing I want to take away from this one is Aaron Rodgers, you
1:16:29
better not come back for this season. I'd rather you get healthy. And
1:16:33
yeah, that's pretty much the only thing. Arthur Smith. It's it's the
1:16:36
same thing we complain about. Other than the Bejon he did get eighteen carries,
1:16:41
but Drake London, Kyle Pits again, it's a good defense. They're
1:16:45
gonna win these ugly games right here, whether whether we like it or not,
1:16:49
and they're gonna find a way into the playoffs. But let's kind of
1:16:54
get into these better games right here. Let's let's talk about these better games.
1:16:58
So the first one we're gonna talk about, it's your dark it's your
1:17:01
dark horse team right here, in which the Detroit Lions. They beat the
1:17:04
New Orleans Saints thirty three to twenty eight. And what's the Saints. They
1:17:09
try to make a lake comeback but just could not. Josh, were you
1:17:14
impressed by the Lions here for bouncing back? No, I was not impressed
1:17:18
by the Detroit Lions. Much like the Kansasity Chiefs. I was not impressed
1:17:21
by my two two teams. Well, I'm not gonna say the Lions my
1:17:26
team, but I love them, I like them, So I was unimpressed
1:17:30
they jumped out to a really big lead twenty one to zero. In that
1:17:33
basically the first five minutes of the football game they dominated. I thought,
1:17:36
oh dang, they're gonna run away with this football game. They're about to
1:17:40
They're about to put on a Detroit Lions offensive special. But it didn't happen.
1:17:44
It just didn't happen. The rest of the game. The Saints really
1:17:47
like put their put put on the put on their put on their pants,
1:17:51
and really like went to work. They just came up short at the end.
1:17:58
Am and Raw only having two catches a football game is weird. He's
1:18:00
a dude that averages at least they're you feel like he gets at least fifteen
1:18:04
catches a game watching him play, So that that that's a weird situation.
1:18:09
San laport had a really big day. Let's not take away that from him.
1:18:12
He had a really big day, especially for a rookie tight end.
1:18:15
We don't see these games often from tight ends, but this year the tight
1:18:18
ends, the tight ends coming out have been the best tight ends in all
1:18:21
the football If you really look at it, there's yeah, Sanloporto, Don
1:18:27
k Luke Musgraves, even Michael Mahyer had a game. These rookies are balling
1:18:30
out and Salaporter's leading the pack with nine in a touchdown. That's really great
1:18:33
that you want to see. The thing is that I'm pretty mad about.
1:18:38
And it's not just because I have him in fantasy in some leagues, which
1:18:41
also because this is pertains the real life. Why does Jimior Gibbs only have
1:18:45
one catch? That doesn't make any sense? Yeah, eight carries, get
1:18:49
him involved. I get Dave Montgomery had eighteen carries, but you're you're trying
1:18:55
to maintain a lead. Get the ball. Probably you're outside of himam and
1:18:59
are all saying Brown your second best playmaker on your offense. I think he
1:19:03
makes big plays happen. Get him the ball more, get him. Why
1:19:06
does he only have nine touches on the game. It doesn't make any sense
1:19:10
to me. So that's what I see from the Lions. This defense still
1:19:13
has a lot of problems they have to figure out. I don't understand what's
1:19:15
going on. They started off the season very good and now they just these
1:19:18
last four games, they've really shit the bed. In my opinion, you're
1:19:23
not helping this offense out at all. As far as the New Orleans Saints
1:19:28
or do you want to go into the Lions first, then we can get
1:19:30
into the Saints. I'll go ahead and talk about the Lions a little bit.
1:19:33
I feel like that Green Bay loss it's not as bad as what it
1:19:38
looked like on Thanksgiving because you do beat the Super Bowl champs and what's the
1:19:41
Chiefs. I know they're not the same team, but there's still the Super
1:19:44
Bowl champs, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid. So yeah, as far as
1:19:47
with this offense, they did enough to win this game. And I just
1:19:51
wanted to see from this game this defense actually step up. And I know
1:19:56
they did step up late here, but again, allowing them back into the
1:20:00
game when it shouldn't have happened with Jamis Winston. With Jamis Winston that that
1:20:06
shouldn't have happened, that's inexcusable. And again, this just proves that you
1:20:13
have the top three teams in the NFC, and then you have a tier
1:20:15
below because Jared Goff he can be sporadic. This defense is not as good
1:20:23
as any of those three defenses, even I don't even think they're better than
1:20:26
the Eagles defense, probably because the Eagles defense they actually have stars on their
1:20:30
name or star star players on their defense. So yeah, you go ahead
1:20:34
and get into the Saints. What we saw from the Saints is Chris olav
1:20:41
has been getting the ball a lot more ever since, like Derek Carr has
1:20:44
kind of held up from that shoulder injury he had. He's the last couple
1:20:47
of games, he's gotten over one yards, he's gotten the five catches,
1:20:50
so he's he's really coming into the guy that we know he's supposed to be
1:20:55
as a big play threat. He's he's a true number one receiver, I
1:20:59
believe, and he's he's really showing it these last couple of weeks, especially
1:21:01
coming off concussion. I didn't think he was going to play in this game
1:21:03
because he has had a lot of concussions to start his NFL career. But
1:21:08
that's something I want to come in him on. He wasn't the problem.
1:21:10
I mean, they scored twenty eight points. We can't really take too much
1:21:13
away from this offense. His offense played good. Alvin Kamara fourteen for fifty
1:21:16
one, he had two rushing touchdowns, and then he had six for fifty
1:21:19
eight through the air. That's just Alvin Kamara being Alvin Kamara. He does
1:21:23
it all He's not gonna light you away with his rushing production, but his
1:21:27
receiving game is always going to be commendable. Taysom Hill my least favorite player
1:21:30
in the NFL thirteen for oh, I don't know anymore besides nbas and like
1:21:35
all them, but as far as like outside of the Chiefs. Taysom Hill
1:21:42
thirteen for fifty nine on the ground for a touchdown, which is disgusting to
1:21:47
say. And then he had two for fifteen, so that's just oh and
1:21:53
let's give it to old man Jimmy Graham touchdown touchdown in this one. So
1:21:57
let's give that to old man Jimmy Graham for us second right there. So,
1:22:01
yeah, their offense wasn't the problem. Their defense has been letting up.
1:22:04
They started the season off hot. Also, they were playing really good
1:22:08
ball. Their their defense wasn't the problem. But now it's kind of switched
1:22:11
sides a little bit to where they're kind of giving up a lot of points
1:22:14
and then the uh and then the offense is having to make up for it.
1:22:17
So that's just something to monitor for them because they're not out of the
1:22:19
playoffs yet either, well they are not in the playoffs, but they're still
1:22:23
in the hunt fighting for their division. Yeah, so well this is something
1:22:29
to look for. They're also it's a weird. It's a weird situation out
1:22:32
there in that good old NFC South. Yeah, it's such it's such a
1:22:36
great division, same as it was last year. But I know you said
1:22:41
this offense isn't the problem, but Derek Carr, he isn't the solution either.
1:22:45
Uh, Derek Carr. I feel like he's just even before the heat
1:22:50
the year started, people they believe Derek Carr he would be able to get
1:22:55
them over the top. But that wasn't gonna happen. If you really watched
1:22:59
them with the Oakland Raiders that that wasn't gonna happen because he had more talent
1:23:03
offensively last year than what he did this year with the New Orleans Saints.
1:23:08
And this defense, it's I feel like you always see this. There's always
1:23:13
a week where defenses they have letdown games, and it seems it seemed like
1:23:16
a common theme throughout this entire week right here, that defenses they were they
1:23:20
just had letdowns and this was just a week right here. But the Saints
1:23:26
they still should be in the hunt because they have the Panthers and Giants up
1:23:30
next, and then you have then you have your tougher stretch with the Rams,
1:23:34
Buccaneers, Falcons, which you control your own destiny right there. So
1:23:39
even them being five and seven right now, they can make the playoffs at
1:23:44
a eight to nine record something like that, and so yeah, we're gonna
1:23:48
just have to see from there. But again, the Saints, they're not
1:23:51
that good. Dennis Allen, he should be on the hot seat fire offensive
1:23:57
offensive coordinator somewhere. But again, older team, no cap space, very
1:24:03
little draft capital, so not much you could do with this team. You
1:24:08
kind of have to technically go all in, but you can't. So yeah,
1:24:13
but let's go ahead and move on to this next game, in which
1:24:15
it was the Houston Texans versus the Denver Broncos and which Russ he did not
1:24:20
cook anything like I expected. He cooks some damn avocado spaghetti, avocado spaghetti's
1:24:28
something like that. He did not cook no ground beef and potatoes in which
1:24:30
he had three interceptions. In this game, he had a chance to win
1:24:33
the game late but through an interception in the red zone, in which the
1:24:39
Texans they won twenty two to seventeen. The Texans are now seven and five.
1:24:43
What did you take away from this game? Josh, I've been telling
1:24:46
people the Broncos aren't for real. Layoff the train, Alfonso, lay off
1:24:53
the train. I know, I know, like gotta jump off. This
1:24:57
isn't this isn't nine or three quarters. You're not going to Hall Awards here,
1:25:00
You're this is this is leading you down to a down a bad path.
1:25:03
They're gonna take you to the south side of Odessa. That's where That's
1:25:05
where this that's where this train was taking you. So you know, Russell
1:25:12
Wilson did not cook as I was expecting it to come down. Come and
1:25:16
this Denver Broncos offense could only they this is something I expected to happen soon
1:25:25
because their offense isn't high powered enough to keep up with really good offenses.
1:25:29
And that's what the Texans are. They are a good, high powered offense.
1:25:31
Because you could see Russell Wilson trying to match CJ. Stroud in this
1:25:34
game, but he just could not do it. He was throwing picks left
1:25:39
and right. Courlans Courland Sun only had two catches. Sure, he had
1:25:43
a big touchdown and another big grab, but outside of that, no one
1:25:45
else really got involved this run game was only held to three point nine care
1:25:51
three two point nine yards. There's really no production there either, so it's
1:25:56
like, I don't know a lot of it came from Russell Wilson's him just
1:26:00
scrambling out of the pocket where the yards came from. That made the average
1:26:04
look pretty good, but outside of that, it wasn't very good. So
1:26:08
the Broncos just came back to earth in this one. I think this is
1:26:11
who they are. I think this is what we should expect the rest of
1:26:13
the season from the Broncos. I understand their schedule isn't as tough, but
1:26:16
I don't believe in them. Let's get to the other side. I do
1:26:18
believe in the Texans because now with the Jaguars losing, they are seven and
1:26:24
five and sitting one game back behind the Colts and the Jaguars, but they
1:26:28
are also the Cults are also seven and five, but they just have the
1:26:30
advantage I think because of a win earlier in the season against the Texans,
1:26:33
so I think that's why they're above them. But CJ. Stroud didn't have
1:26:38
his best game in this game by all accounts. In my opinion, he
1:26:44
had two seventy four or four touchdown. But that's really good. That's a
1:26:46
really good floor for your for your starting quarterback. Damian Pierce let the way
1:26:51
in this in this one, which kind of surprised me because it's been a
1:26:55
Devin Singletary show over the last like four weeks. But Damian Pierce really took
1:26:59
back the reins this one, which I kind of expected to happen sooner or
1:27:01
later. He was their second round draft pick last year out of Florida,
1:27:04
and he played really good last year. He has the talent. It just
1:27:06
a matter of this offensive line kind of helping him out a little bit.
1:27:10
And they're getting healthier. As for Nico Collins, let's talk about the man,
1:27:14
dude. Let's talk about the guy nine a touchdown. He has been
1:27:17
really good this year, Nico Collins. They expected to take the next step
1:27:21
into being their number one receiver, and that's why they traded Brandon Cooks away,
1:27:25
and they were comfortable about it because they knew they had a guy and
1:27:28
he has shown that he can be that guy. What just sucks in something
1:27:31
to monitor is that their number two in my opinion, Tank Delle went down,
1:27:35
and it went down early in the game off a touchdown from Damian Pierce
1:27:40
where he was blocking. My only thing is, why do you have your
1:27:43
five foot eight, five foot nine, one hundred and sixty five pounds NFL
1:27:47
wide receiver. People didn't think was gonna be in the NFL because of his
1:27:53
size blocking on a one yard on just just run the ball, score touchdown
1:27:59
makes no Why is he on the field in that situation. He's not big,
1:28:01
He's not that big to be blocking a linebacker, and we just saw
1:28:05
him get bulled thozed by Damian Peers from behind and got rolled up. Now
1:28:09
he's out the rest of the season. So good job Texans on that one.
1:28:12
But other than that, they played good in this game. They're the
1:28:15
Texans. They have seven wins, that's more than that's the same amount of
1:28:18
wins that they had in the last two seasons combined. So that's something good
1:28:21
for the Texans. Yeah. I did not expect this Texans team to be
1:28:26
this this damn good, and I expected them to eventually revert back to the
1:28:30
medium. But this is the meeting right here. CJ. Stroud. He's
1:28:33
just that damn good. And I know you went over the offense right here,
1:28:39
but this defense right here underneath the Mico Ryans, they're proven to be
1:28:44
one of the best young defenses in the league. And shout out to Derek
1:28:47
Stingley junior. Derek Stinglely Junior. In these past I think he's had four
1:28:51
interceptions in these past five games in which he's finally healthy. Now, I
1:28:57
guess people they forgot how good he was a freshman at LSU. He was
1:29:00
going up against Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson, that that whole squad where they
1:29:05
won the national championship, and he was consistently locking them up. So this
1:29:12
dude, he's finally healthy, had two interceptions and one of them it was
1:29:15
just beautiful, in which he baited Russell Wilson on a post route. On
1:29:19
a post route. That's things you just cannot teach. Right there, that's
1:29:24
just something. Just a sea ball, getball. That's all it is right
1:29:28
there. And this Bronco side, they had plenty of opportunities to win the
1:29:33
game. They did. They had plenty of opportunities. Russ he was trying
1:29:38
to do too much instead of sticking to his ground beef and potatoes. He
1:29:42
said, you know what, let me switch it up. I'm gonna try
1:29:44
to cook something different. And you burn the whole goddamn house. That's exactly
1:29:48
what you did. Just stick to your ground, beef and potatoes and your
1:29:53
thias and it should win you your ballgames because you played through your defense.
1:29:58
You have the Charges up next, so I don't know, we're gonna get
1:30:01
into that game in a second. They didn't look so good, so maybe
1:30:03
you could get back to over five hundred. But nothing else I could really
1:30:08
take away from this game. Anything else you want to take away? No,
1:30:13
I just I forgot to mention it, but you mentioned it. Yeah,
1:30:15
shout out Derek Stintle. He played a really good game in this one.
1:30:18
Yeah, And we're gonna go ahead and get into one of the last
1:30:23
twelve o'clock games. It was the Indianapolis Colts versus the Tennessee Titans, which
1:30:28
went into overtime. The Colts had a game winning field goal. They won
1:30:30
thirty one to twenty eight. Josh, anything you want to take away from
1:30:34
this one? The Cult are looking really good on offense. With Anthony Richardson
1:30:40
going down, A lot of people thought, oh, maybe this season they
1:30:43
just kind of go for another top draft pick, kind of just look for
1:30:46
another guy to add. But no, they were like Gardner Minshew was like,
1:30:50
let me put my uncle. Let me do my best best Uncle Rico
1:30:54
impersonation, because they didn't put me in and we could have been state chance,
1:30:58
but they put me in and we could make the playoff. That's what
1:31:00
he did. That's what he's saying with the Cults right now, and they
1:31:02
are very much on their way to making the playoffs if they keep up this
1:31:04
pace. And I understand that Jonathan Taylor went down, but like we said
1:31:09
last year, Zach Moss was a very last year last week that Zach Moss
1:31:13
is a very serviceable starter in the NFL when he is given the opportunities to
1:31:17
be a starter, and he he looked okay in this game nine nineteen for
1:31:21
fifty one. But they trust him enough to give him the ball that many
1:31:24
times, which is something good to see and that must feel good for you
1:31:28
as a player that they trust you that much even though you're the backup.
1:31:31
As far as receiving, Michael Pittman junr has had a quiet good year,
1:31:38
but he had eleven for one oh five in a touchdown and Alex Pearce has
1:31:41
his biggest game of the season. I think former Cincinnati Bearcat. He went
1:31:45
three four, one hundred and one touchdown, so that too, that was
1:31:50
good from really your number one and number two receivers. No, Josh Downs
1:31:55
is the number two now, but it's but he's getting ease back in after
1:31:59
his injury. So that's something to monitor because once they're at full strength,
1:32:02
I believe this team's gonna cause a lot, maybe cause a lot, couple
1:32:05
of problems for some teams down the road. Yeah, it's it's gonna be
1:32:10
scary with what Anthony Richardson when he's gonna be back next year, it's gonna
1:32:14
be really scary because Gardner Minshew, he's being put in the in great spots
1:32:18
and you're seeing how good Shane Stikeen he is as a coach and he should
1:32:23
be in the Coach of the Year conversations now because nobody expected them to be
1:32:27
seven to five even with Anthony Richardson, let alone have seven wins throughout the
1:32:30
entire season, and now they have a spot for the division. Who knows
1:32:34
what Trevor Lawrence uh possibly being out of several weeks. The Texans, they
1:32:40
have a win over them, so yeah, they should be good. Jonathan
1:32:44
Taylor, he will come back in a week or two, so we'll see
1:32:46
that. As far as from the Titan side, nothing else to really take
1:32:50
away other than Derrick Henry being Derrick Henry twenty one carries, one hundred and
1:32:54
two yards, two touchdowns, and then also Taj Spears he had a good
1:32:58
game. He had seventy five yards I think sixteen carries. You were able
1:33:00
to run the ball pretty well. But Will Levis, he still is a
1:33:03
rookie quarterback. He is going to have his ups and downs. So yeah,
1:33:09
uh, this team should just scrap it. They should just rebuild and
1:33:13
just will Will Levis. He's a nice solid piece to start this foundation in
1:33:16
Peter Skronski a guard or yeah he's a guard, so yeah, just a
1:33:21
nice piece. Just build up the offense. And I have a question for
1:33:27
you. Do you think Mike Rabel he's gonna end up getting fired because I
1:33:30
know, I know he is a good coach, But they're four and eight
1:33:33
and you're kind of at a culture switch here. If they fire Mike Babriel,
1:33:40
they better fire the GM because I don't think you find a better coach
1:33:45
than Mike Rabel because we've seen Mike Rabel. Okay, put it, let
1:33:48
me put you give you this. I think I've said it before. They
1:33:51
were the most winning his team. They were, they had the highest they
1:33:55
had the most wins outside of the Kansady Chiefs for the last outside this year,
1:33:59
for the last four and last year, for the last four years previous
1:34:02
to that, they had the most wins outside the Kansas City Chiefs. So
1:34:05
let's put that there. This is just another This is just a bump in
1:34:08
the road where their players got older and they just they just have to make
1:34:11
decisions. And I think Mike Vabriel is the culture he is. He is
1:34:15
what's who's gonna set the tone. And I think with the young quarterback,
1:34:18
you need a coach like that, who's gonna give it to him straight,
1:34:20
who's gonna do this. He is like one of the lone like Belichick Belichick
1:34:29
disciples to leave and kind of become a good coach in the NFL. And
1:34:31
I think, yeah, I think if you get rid of Mike Vrabel,
1:34:34
you're making a really big mistake because another team like the Panthers or the who's
1:34:41
looking for maybe the Bears are gonna get Mike Rabel. Yeah, Falcons,
1:34:45
they're gonna get Mike Vrabel and they're gonna turn into a really good football team.
1:34:48
M h. Yeah, No, it was just a question here.
1:34:50
But since you brought up Bill Belichick, we'll go ahead and get into that
1:34:55
game. That game, it was a very ugly game right there. And
1:34:59
what's the charges? They won six to zero. Is there anything you really
1:35:02
wanted to take away from this game right here? Uh? It was an
1:35:11
ugly football game to watch. I would say there was literally if you want
1:35:16
to talk about zero offense, this was zero office zero offense. Oh shout
1:35:24
out Zeke. Though Zeke had a good game. I guess if we want
1:35:26
to say someone had a good game, Zeke and Keenan Allen, let's put
1:35:30
it there is Heke and Kenyan Allen played good football. But outside of that,
1:35:33
defense played good football. The The Patriots held the Chargers to one yard
1:35:42
per carry the entire game. Twenty four carriers averaged one yard. And you
1:35:46
have Austin Eckler as as you're running back. That is crazy. So they're
1:35:51
going to be looking for a new running back at the end of the season,
1:35:54
I'm sure. But and that's because Austin Eckler just isn't that. It
1:35:58
has never been that great of a run, so it's like he's more of
1:36:00
a receiving back. As far as that, nothing to take away too much.
1:36:06
Khalil Mack had two sacks in this game. This is a third game
1:36:10
this season with at least two sacks, So that's a shout out right there.
1:36:13
Chargers win six to zero. So I guess the MVP of this game
1:36:16
would be Digger the kicker, Cameron Dicker. So that's that's what That's what
1:36:21
I'm gonna say right there. So I just want to congratulate, uh,
1:36:26
I know, I said it last week the Patriots on getting a top two
1:36:30
pick and getting Caleb Williams. Because these past three games, this defense they're
1:36:34
not the problem. They're not. They're missing Christian Gonzales and Matthew Judon.
1:36:39
In the past three games, They've only given up twenty six points and they
1:36:42
lost all three games. So yeah, this defense is not the problem.
1:36:45
Bill Belichick, he he still is that damn good. As far as him
1:36:50
potentially getting fired, those comments were ludo, Chris. But as far as
1:36:55
from the Charger's side, Kellen Moore, what happened to you as far as
1:36:59
going to a more talented team and a better quarterback and you only managed to
1:37:04
score six points against the Patriots. I know it was raining and everything,
1:37:09
but apparently you're this genius and you're not able to do these certain things.
1:37:15
So I feel like this is kind of bad for Kellum Moore. This is
1:37:18
a bad luck, and he went from potentially being one of the top head
1:37:23
coaches or head coach candidates to now just being stuck as an offensive coordinator for
1:37:29
probably these next two three years. But all right, let's get into this
1:37:31
next game right here. It was the last twelve o'clock game. It was
1:37:35
the Arizona Cardinals versus the Pittsburgh Steelers, in which the Cardinals they won twenty
1:37:41
four to ten, in which Canny Pickett he is out and with the ankle
1:37:45
spring. Anything you want to take away from this, can you pick it?
1:37:53
Uh? When he went down, I hate to say it, but
1:37:55
I was like, I feel like they're gonna play better with Mitchell Trubisky.
1:37:59
But yeah, it didn't turn out that way completely. He played alright,
1:38:02
eleven for seventeen in a touchdown for one seventeen passing, So he did.
1:38:08
He did. Okay, I'm gonna start. I'm gonna really start with the
1:38:11
Stellers in this one, just to get it out the way a little bit.
1:38:14
Why does Jalen Warren only have nine carries compared to Najie Harris's sixteen carries.
1:38:17
Hasn't he been the most efficient back, more efficient back this year?
1:38:21
So I think you lose this game because you make bad decisions offensively. Didn't
1:38:27
y'all fire Matt Canada like I thought. I thought that happened. So I
1:38:30
guess he wasn't the whole problem. I guess. I guess there's probably one
1:38:34
guy that makes the final decision, and he's just refusing to go away from
1:38:39
the guy that jacted in the first round, I guess. As for the
1:38:42
receivers, George Pickens for forty six, Deontay Johnson four for three to three
1:38:45
in a touchdown, Brad Famus comes back down to earth. This defense kind
1:38:50
of let it step away, especially in the run game, which I'll get
1:38:54
to here in a second. This Stellers team, they're dropped to seven and
1:38:57
five, but in my opinion, I don't think, I don't know,
1:39:00
they're probably the least scary seven to five team out of the Colts Texans and
1:39:08
then I think, in my opinion, so yeah, and the Browns I
1:39:12
think they have a lot to figure out because this offense is so atrocious,
1:39:15
Like, no one's knocking their defense. They still got Minka, they got
1:39:18
TJ. Watt, they got Camer Hayward, they got Alex Highsmith, they
1:39:21
got they got Joey Porter Junior. This defense has players everywhere. They always
1:39:26
have players everywhere. Just this offense. His offense has to figure it out,
1:39:29
and they probably won't because I don't think they have the quarterback to do
1:39:31
it. I don't know if you knew this Patrick he broke his hand.
1:39:36
Oh I did not hear about that. Well, then they don't have Mega
1:39:39
Fitzpatrick. They have Joey Porter Jr. So never mind. Yeah, they're
1:39:44
they're even less scarier than they were before. Mm hmm okay. So for
1:39:47
the Arizona Cardinals, caller Murray didn't have a really great game, but that's
1:39:51
that's gonna happen. When you're playing the Stillers. You barely have time to
1:39:56
throw the football. You you you don't. You're rattled the whole time,
1:39:59
which understandable you're playing TJ. Freaking Watt on the other side. But as
1:40:04
far as the running game with James Connor, he said, oh, y'all
1:40:10
got rid of me because y'all wanted Naji. No, this is me,
1:40:15
this is I went. He went twenty five for one oh five and two
1:40:18
touchdowns, averaged four point two yards per carry. He he showed up,
1:40:23
showed out, left the statement in his left He was like, all right,
1:40:27
I'm done here, I'm going home. I'm going to Arizona. I'm
1:40:30
gonna go to the hot weather. I'm able to sit outside not freeze to
1:40:34
death. So uh that that's that's that's a shout out to him. He
1:40:39
played really good in this game. And then I'm gonna get to Trey McBride.
1:40:42
Trey mcbrizzy eight for nine in a touchdown. He was really the only
1:40:45
competent receiver in the receivers last tight end in this entire game. He really
1:40:49
bought out. He's been bawling out this year, which is something that I
1:40:53
expected because he was drafted in the first round last year while the Arizona Cardinals
1:40:58
as tight end and with Zach Ertz not being on this team anymore, it's
1:41:01
really gonna it's really gonna allow him to take a big step in his career.
1:41:06
Yeah, Kyler Murray, like you said, Uh, he's not gonna
1:41:11
have a good game against the Steelers. But this Arizona Cardinals team, they're
1:41:15
going to be a trapped team or a track game, trap game for anybody.
1:41:18
They're going to be playing the remainder of the year. And Kyler Murray
1:41:23
he doesn't want to lose any games because he's proven that he is a franchise
1:41:27
quarterback and he made just enough players to win this game. And as far
1:41:30
as with the Steelers, I don't know, I just don't understand it.
1:41:36
I don't know how you could go from Kenny Pickett Mister two Gloves to somehow
1:41:42
go into a worst quarterback in Mitch Trubisky. You definitely need to draft a
1:41:45
quarterback this year. Even if you take a chance at bow Nick's JJ McCarthy,
1:41:51
I don't know how far Michael Pennixy is going to drop. So you
1:41:55
need to just take a chance with one of these quarterbacks right here, because
1:41:58
it's not the answer. You're better off just moving off early and just saying
1:42:01
okay, we'll learn from our mistakes. Or maybe I know it's a long
1:42:05
shot, but maybe Kirk Cousin somebody liked that. Until then, you're not
1:42:10
going to be viewed as a real contender because you have no quarterback and you
1:42:15
have everything else just the quarterback, which is the hardest position to find.
1:42:18
And there's nothing else I could really take away from this game. Did you
1:42:21
want to take anything else away from this game? No, sir? All
1:42:28
right, Well we'll move into the first game of the week, which was
1:42:31
a Thursday night football game in which it was a high scoring game. It
1:42:38
was the Dallas Cowboys versus the Seattle Seahawks, and what Dak Prescott led a
1:42:44
game winning drive to beat the Seattle Seahawks and will say won forty one to
1:42:48
thirty five. Josh, what did you take away from this game? Right
1:42:53
here? Both defenses got absolutely torched in this game or butts about it.
1:43:00
Outside of the Gallas Cowboys coming up big pretty late, this defense was pretty
1:43:05
much non existent for most of the game. As in the Seahawks on the
1:43:10
other side, are pretty much non existent for the entire game. They was
1:43:14
just back and forth battle. And then, okay, let me say some
1:43:18
I think last week I said DK Metcalf it's probably to me the most overrated
1:43:25
receiver in the NFL. He still is in my opinion, He's one of
1:43:28
them but he heard me. I guess we're a motivator. I do.
1:43:31
I tend to do this. I tend to do this. I'm a motivator
1:43:34
for these players. They listen to the pod. I did it for Mac
1:43:38
Jones once before. I'll do it for DK Metcalf. Now he has six
1:43:43
for one thirty four three touchdowns. If they don't, if they win this
1:43:45
game, We're talking about DK Metcalf all week, how he had this big
1:43:48
game, how he torched, heurn Bland, how he did all this.
1:43:54
Because he did he was taking them to town. Everything he was getting open.
1:43:58
He was just a bigger physical receiver. This is what I expect from
1:44:01
DK Metcalf, with this frost size, with this frame, with that speed,
1:44:05
with the agility, with the height, with the with everything he has
1:44:09
to his disposal. This is what I expect for him every single week.
1:44:12
Calvin Johnson esque. He that's what he has the potential to be, but
1:44:16
he has yet to reach it in his NFL career. I want this every
1:44:19
week. Dk. What's so hard about that? You have everything you need
1:44:23
to do it, do it? And Zach Sharbonne is playing playing good football
1:44:28
for them. I'll give him that. Geno Smith has come come back to
1:44:31
life in this game a little bit three thirty four to three touchdowns. I
1:44:34
think a lot of it was predicated towards DK Metcalf doing a lot of run
1:44:38
after the catch, a lot of getting open for him. But on the
1:44:42
Cowboys side of the football, Citee Lamb continues to to have a great year.
1:44:46
Twelve for one to sixteen and a touchdown. Jake Fergie Drake Fergie Ferguson
1:44:53
made the London Bridges fall, you know, so six for seventy seven and
1:44:57
a touchdown. He played really good football. Brandon Cooks got on the board
1:45:00
in this game. But what I like to see is Tony Pollard getting the
1:45:03
ball. He got the ball a lot in this game. Twenty carries for
1:45:08
sixty eight yards and a touch and a touchdown, and then he I believe
1:45:13
he had three catches for fifteen yards, which is okay from Tony Pollard.
1:45:15
I want a little bit more in the receiving game because that's how that's where
1:45:18
he makes his money, that's how he shows how dynamic he really is.
1:45:23
And then that continues to have a great year. He really does. He's
1:45:27
putting the ball where it needs to be he's throwing it deep down the field,
1:45:30
he's throwing it in the middle, he's throwing an intermediate, he's throwing
1:45:31
behind the line of scrimmers. He's doing everything he can to win football games,
1:45:34
and he's been balling out this year. So yeah, the Cowboys are
1:45:39
on a roll. This offense is on a roll. Just needs the defense
1:45:42
to kind of get back to what they're supposed to be because they did play
1:45:45
a good Seahawks team this week, So I think that's what kind of kind
1:45:48
of kind of allowed them to be more in the game, because they are
1:45:51
a good football team, the Seattle Seahawks, and they really took this put
1:45:56
up a really good test for this defense. Yeah, before I get into
1:46:00
the Cowboys right here, because obviously I'm the Cowboys fan, Yeah, Seattle,
1:46:04
they came out real desperate. I expected them to come out like this,
1:46:10
especially after getting embarrassed by the Niners. You're six and five, on
1:46:14
the brink of going five hundred, potentially losing the playoffs. This is what
1:46:18
they had to do, and this offense was. There no punts from the
1:46:23
Seattle Seahawks right here, Gino Smith. Other than that play, I don't
1:46:26
think that interception it was his fault. It was just a Ron Bland making
1:46:30
a great play. Which great players, they're gonna eventually get burnt throughout the
1:46:34
entire season. It's just it just happens. He just happened to make a
1:46:38
great play right there. And that's the thing that I could take away from
1:46:43
Seattle. But the biggest thing that I wanted to see from this defense.
1:46:46
I know that you're gonna have a letdown game, like we talked about from
1:46:49
the Chiefs, Browns or some of these other teams, is can you show
1:46:54
up situationally when the game matters and all in the fourth quarter they showed up.
1:47:00
They had two fourth down stops and then obviously they had that interception right
1:47:03
there, so they were able to show up. Or no, they had
1:47:08
three fourth down stops. Actually, I'm looking at it right now. They
1:47:11
had three fourth down stops. So yeah, you were able to show up.
1:47:15
Your big time player showed up. Micah Parsons closed out the game.
1:47:18
But as far as this defense, I'm not necessarily concerned they'll play better against
1:47:25
Philly because I think this finally showed three games in twelve days. That is
1:47:31
a big thing right there, and usually that affects the defense more than the
1:47:35
offense because they're trying to be more physical with this Dallas defense right here.
1:47:41
So it just finally wore down, but you got ten days of rest to
1:47:44
get ready for Philly. So that's exactly what they're gonna do and something that
1:47:48
I want to just bring up real quick for you, Josh. So there's
1:47:54
two players, so I'm going to compare their first two years through twelve games.
1:48:00
So the first guy, he had forty six catches, four hundred ninety
1:48:02
eight yards, five touchdowns. This other guy forty four catches, five hundred
1:48:06
and seventy eight yards, four touchdowns. That first guy was Jake Ferguson.
1:48:13
That second guy was Travis Kelce. I'm not saying that he's gonna become Travis
1:48:16
Kelce. Don't. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he's becoming Travis
1:48:19
Kelce. But he has a lot of similarities to him as far as he's
1:48:25
able to move out of the pocket and find the quarterback. He has some
1:48:28
mobility out, some wiggle, and he just has some swag on swag on
1:48:31
him. He's just a dog. He just is. He just brought that
1:48:34
intensity that that no disrespect to Dalton Schultz. He's a good tight end that
1:48:40
Dalton Schultze just didn't bring last year. And what can I say more about
1:48:44
Dak Prescott his last seven games one hundred and seventy seven for two hundred and
1:48:48
fifty one, seventy percent completion percentage, twenty three total touchdowns, two interception,
1:48:54
six to one record. This dude, We're gonna get into it in
1:48:58
a second. He is one of the MVP candidate right now, maybe the
1:49:00
top one. But this offense is just clicking. Mike McCarthy as far as
1:49:05
just ever since a BI week against ever since a biweek or since the San
1:49:09
Francisco forty nine ers, he's just been dialing it up time and time and
1:49:13
again. And I know, Ceedee Lamb, he had one hundred and sixteen
1:49:17
yards right here, but you're not so CD Lamb dependent. Now you're getting
1:49:21
Jake Ferguson involved, Jaalen Tober, Brandon Cooks, and now Michael Gallup he's
1:49:27
going to be getting involved a little bit more. You saw that. I
1:49:30
know he didn't get the catches, but he was getting involved a little bit
1:49:32
more. And like you said, the run game, they were starting to
1:49:35
use a little bit more thirty four carries, one hundred and thirty six yards,
1:49:39
four touchdowns or not four touchdowns, four yards per carry. So yeah,
1:49:44
that's what I like to see. And now you're in the tough stretch
1:49:47
or tough part. You're supposed to beat Seattle. Now you're going up against
1:49:50
the Eagles, the Bills, the Dolphins Alliance. So we're gonna see how
1:49:55
good this team really is. But is there anything else you want to take
1:50:00
take away from this? No, not really. I think Ferguson is a
1:50:08
really good is a really good tight end. Uh. He has some of
1:50:11
the qualities that Travis Kelcey does show. I just think we just need to
1:50:14
see him. Really. What Travis Kelsey does is he always gets open no
1:50:20
matter what, Like he finds the soft spots in the zones like and even
1:50:26
if in his later age, like he's obviously getting slower, you can see
1:50:30
it when he's playing, but he's so like smart when it comes to using
1:50:33
his body and his weight and transferring it to other two pivots and cuts and
1:50:38
everything like that. I think that's something I want to see from Jake Ferguson
1:50:41
a little bit more. But he does have all the all the intangibles that
1:50:44
he needs to be a great tight end in the NFL. Yeah, I
1:50:47
no, he's definitely getting there. And then one last thing I want to
1:50:49
bring out is since Week seven, Dak Prescott has thrown twenty touchdown passes.
1:50:57
The closest the two closest people to him is just and Herbert and C.
1:51:00
J. Stroud, and they've only thrown ten. So that's how much Dak
1:51:02
Prescott. He's been on a tear. But since we got into the week
1:51:08
thirteen games, We're gonna go ahead and get into we felt like we wanted
1:51:12
to talk about it, especially after these games. Right here, the MVP.
1:51:17
Who's the MVP of the league. I'm gonna just list y'all the betting
1:51:21
favorites right now. So Brock Purty, Dak Prescott, and Jalen hurt say
1:51:26
all tied right now, and then you have in quote unquote second place Mahomes
1:51:31
and then you have Lamar Jackson. So, Josh, who are your MVP
1:51:36
candidates right now? I'm not necessarily like, okay, So number I my
1:51:45
three that I have, I have Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott has thrown three
1:51:51
two hundred and thirty four yards in the season, which ranks fit amongst all
1:51:55
quarterbacks twenty six touchdowns with the rinks first among all quarterbacks. He's only thrown
1:52:00
six interceptions, so for all those that wanted that interceptions to go down,
1:52:04
it really has, especially the touchdown and interception ratio has really improved. He's
1:52:10
second in total QBR with seventy five seventy five point six QBR percentage. Then
1:52:16
he's rushed for one hundred and seventy four yards and two touchdowns on the ground.
1:52:19
So that's twenty eight touchdowns in total on this season that he has,
1:52:23
and that that's that's pretty good. We have Tyreek Hill. That's my that's
1:52:27
my other MVP that I have. He has ninety three catches fourteen hundred and
1:52:33
eighty one yards, which is basically two hundred and what it is, two
1:52:39
hundred and ninety nine yards in front of the next closest NFL wide receiver he
1:52:45
has to and he has twelve touchdowns on the season, and he's on pace
1:52:48
for two thousand. As he has been harping on that he wants to get
1:52:51
pretty much the whole season, and I think he'll get very close or he
1:52:56
will get there. And then as far as CMC. That's my other MVP
1:53:01
that I think should be the should be in the conversation for MVP. Two
1:53:05
hundred and ten carries for one thousand thirty two yards and twelve touchdowns, which
1:53:11
is first for rushing yards and second for rushing touchdowns. And then he has
1:53:15
four hundred and twenty nine receiving yards, which is most amongst all running backs,
1:53:18
and five touchdowns, so in total, he has seventeen touchdowns on the
1:53:21
season as a running back. He's doing everything that the forty nine ers need
1:53:27
him to do, and that's very that's very important for their success going down,
1:53:30
going forward because without CMC, this offense isn't the same without CMC,
1:53:34
but this team isn't the same without CMC. He is the he is the
1:53:38
catalyst, and him and Nick both are the two most important players on this
1:53:42
team I in my opinion. So those are my three three who I would
1:53:47
pick right now. I'd have to go the quarterback Dak Prescott as the MVP
1:53:53
that I have right now. It's only because it's a position award also,
1:53:57
but he is bawling like like you said, he has twenty touchdowns since Week
1:54:00
seven. He is second in QBR he's fit the Monks in passing yards,
1:54:02
so he has all the numbers to back it up, and plus he's winning
1:54:04
football games. He's not in three. I know it hurts me not to
1:54:09
put my homes up here, but until the other pieces to help him out
1:54:12
a little bit, he's not the MVP of the league for this year.
1:54:15
He's the MVP. I think if it wasn't like we have to give it
1:54:19
to the guy that's playing the best because he is the most valuable player.
1:54:23
But this year for me, right now, at this very moment, is
1:54:25
Dak Prescott and then a close second is Tyreek Hill. I think, in
1:54:30
my opinion, he's just doing too much where you can't deny his greatness anymore.
1:54:33
Like you, if there's a year you give the MVP to wide receiver,
1:54:36
it better be this year. Yeah, so I'm gonna go from three
1:54:42
to one. So number three, I do have Tyreek kills as well.
1:54:46
He needs five hundred and nineteen yards to get over two thousand, and that's
1:54:50
very likely right here. You have well you have four games left right here,
1:54:55
so that that's very probable to happen. And this dude, he's just
1:55:00
been on a tear and the stat that you always bring up, they're undefeated
1:55:03
when Tyreek has one hundred plus receiving yards, So that just shows how much
1:55:06
value he does bring to this team. But what I think hurts his case
1:55:12
is that him and Tua they're kind of knocking each other down because it's like,
1:55:15
oh, two is more valuable. Oh no, Tyreek's more valuable.
1:55:18
So that's what kind of brings it down. But he should be getting more
1:55:21
recognition here and number two. Like you said, this is a quarterback based
1:55:27
award, so I put another quarterback here. I put Jalen Hurts. They
1:55:31
have the best record in the league. I know it was a bad game
1:55:33
against San Francisco, but still nine hundred ninety five yards, nineteen touchdowns,
1:55:39
ten interceptions, which is not good, sixty six point five completion percentage,
1:55:44
you're six in the league. And QBR four hunder and thirty rushing yards,
1:55:46
twelve touchdowns, and another stat that I wanted to bring up nine out of
1:55:51
his twelve touchdowns rushing, nine of them were the touch push. So I
1:55:56
don't know how much that does matter right there, But it's not like the
1:56:00
explosive players where he's out like Cam Newton. If that makes sense. And
1:56:03
he's the first quarterback in NFL history to have back to back ten plus touchdown
1:56:09
rushing season, so that should go into consideration. So yeah, but number
1:56:14
one, I feel like this is a given here since time a Cowboys fan
1:56:17
Dak Prescott, and I feel like if he wins three out of the three
1:56:24
out of the four games, he's gonna run away with the MVP. Right
1:56:27
here, I feel like it's no good or it's a given. If they
1:56:30
want to talk about the cowboy bias, this world really pay dividends right here
1:56:35
because it's the most talked about player. If you win all these marquee games,
1:56:40
you get over to twelve wins, not necessarily being the one seed,
1:56:43
but yeah, you'll end up winning the MVP. So, Dak, he
1:56:46
is in the saddle right now. But I just wonder how you feel about
1:56:51
brock Purty being one of the co favorites for MVP. Do you feel like
1:56:56
that's right right now? Oh, my friend Breckon made this ardent with me
1:57:00
literally like a whole hour before we did started this podcast. Yeah, I
1:57:05
just don't agree. I understand that he brought up the stats about how every
1:57:11
most MVP's average yards after the catch has been higher than the than their air
1:57:16
yards, which that's gonna happen. It happened for every pretty quarterback because you
1:57:21
get the ball and you expect your players to make plays. But the way
1:57:25
that Brock Party, you look at this team and you know brock Perty isn't
1:57:28
the best player on their team. You know he isn't the MVP of this
1:57:30
team. It's Christian McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey is the MVP of this of this
1:57:34
football team. Without Christian McCaffrey, brock Party is in Brock Party. I
1:57:39
guarantee you that he's the safety blanket. He's the go to guy when things
1:57:43
get rough. That's Christian McCaffrey Brock Party. Also, I don't think is
1:57:46
better than Dak Prescott this year. I don't think he's better than Lamar Jackson
1:57:50
this year. I don't think he's better than c J. Strout this year.
1:57:54
I don't think he's better than Jared Goff this year. He's I think
1:57:56
he's around that area right there with Jared Goff around there. I think that's
1:58:00
where he should sit nice and pretty right there. And then Plus, I
1:58:02
will never put rock Party above Mahomes in my opinion. So that's that's what
1:58:06
I'm gonna see here, because if you put I hate to do this,
1:58:10
I always hate to do this. Put Mahomes in the forty nine ers offense
1:58:14
and you put Rock Party in his Chiefs offense. Yeah, you'll you'll see
1:58:17
who the best quarterback and you'll see why Mahomes. Mahomes might throw for six
1:58:23
five hundred yards and throw for sixty two touchdowns in a season if he were
1:58:28
in the forty nine ers offense. And so that's why I don't I don't
1:58:32
agree with Rock Party being that high because I understand every great quarterback has weapons.
1:58:39
I've made this, I've made that argument a million times. If people
1:58:42
hate on Patrick Mahomes because oh he had Tyreek Hill to start a career,
1:58:45
he had Travis Kelsey to start his career, But name me another receiver,
1:58:48
you know. So that's what I always tell him, like, name me,
1:58:50
Name me and Brian Pringle, name me and DeMarcus Robinson, name me
1:58:54
Sammy Watkins who played one game, and you know a name if you go
1:58:59
to the only quarterback I could say is maybe Tom Brady. But he had
1:59:01
a number one defense every year of his career. So it's kind of like
1:59:04
he didn't have to. Yeah, he had Gronkowski, had Wilker, he
1:59:08
had Julian Edelman, he had I get Danny amandolos In a big name.
1:59:12
But he did his job. He got He did his job when he needed
1:59:15
to. So every quarterback has great weapons, but the difference between Brock Purty
1:59:20
is not those quarterbacks. He is not. He is not a generational quarterback.
1:59:25
So that is why I don't have him as my as the front runner,
1:59:29
front runner of all the betting sites because they don't know ball, but
1:59:31
they just so that's what I'm just saying. Yeah, no, I agree
1:59:35
with you, And I feel like the biggest thing that hurts his case is
1:59:41
that, say, if during that three game stretch when Trent Williams, Deebo,
1:59:45
Samuel Seemac that were all banged up, if they would have won two
1:59:47
out of those three games, then it would have been a totally different story.
1:59:51
Then they'd be the number one seed right now, they would be,
1:59:56
or he would be the runaway MVP. But that's just not the case.
1:59:59
He didn't approve his value, which most valuable player you could say with Dak
2:00:03
Prescott. I know there's Micah Parsons, Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Ceedee
2:00:09
Lamb. But he's been the most valuable player for the Cowboys this year.
2:00:13
Jalen Hurts, even though he's out of bad or not bad year as far
2:00:16
as turnover wise bad turnover year, he's been the most valuable player, Tyreek
2:00:20
Kill most valuable, see him, most valuable, Lamar Jackson, even he's
2:00:24
been the most valuable. Mahomes. So at the end of the day,
2:00:29
they can't just give it to the quarterback on the best team. They just
2:00:34
can't do that. That's not right. I know there's been Mahomes, Aaron
2:00:40
Rodgers, Tom Brady, but they're also Hall of Fame level quarterbacks. I
2:00:44
am not putting Brock Purty in that same category as Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers,
2:00:48
and Tom Brady. So I feel like that's just pretty simple right there.
2:00:53
But I feel like if the Niners they do win out Brock Purdy, he
2:00:57
is going to find a way to win this MVP because it is also a
2:01:00
big brand such as the Dallas Cowboys. It's not like there's a major difference.
2:01:04
But anything else he wanted to take away before we get into with Rock
2:01:09
Perdy, we did see that in that three game stretch where he could have
2:01:14
capitalized on his opportunity and really made statements that like, yo, I am
2:01:16
not that, I am not just a system quarterback. I am the system,
2:01:20
and he just did not do that. He didn't do that, in
2:01:24
my opinion, which is why he is, like you said, not the
2:01:26
MVP, because even without just a Debo and just a Trent Williams, you
2:01:30
couldn't really see the falter in his game because they really stacked the box,
2:01:33
took away CMC, I mean the best they could. They took away CMC,
2:01:39
and then he just really relied upon himself to play catch up in those
2:01:41
games when he was down and he couldn't do it. He couldn't get the
2:01:44
ball of brand Eyuk when he needed him the most. He couldn't get the
2:01:45
ball, and George could have when he needed him the most. I think
2:01:48
so when games when he should have took over, he just couldn't. And
2:01:53
that's why I don't think he should be considered up there. Why I have
2:01:56
a Stroud above him, because Stroud, you put them put on the tape
2:02:00
from this year, and you're gonna tell me Rock Purtty the better quarterback than
2:02:02
c J. Stroud. No, hell, No, c J. Stroud
2:02:05
can sling the ball forty yards fifty yards down the field, hit in a
2:02:09
bucket against two defenders. Rock Purty cannot do that. Sam Hoow can make
2:02:12
better throws than brock Party in my opinion, So I think, and I
2:02:15
would take somehow but brock Party in my opinion. And that's why I don't
2:02:18
think brock Perty is the runaway MVP. Yeah, yeah, I know I
2:02:24
could agree with you one hundred percent. But anything else you want to say
2:02:28
before we get onto our next topic or no, No, I think that
2:02:31
that pretty much covered the MVP talk for me. All right, well,
2:02:35
we're gonna get into one of our last topics in which it was predictions,
2:02:42
in which yes, I did win two in a row, but Josh,
2:02:45
he finally bounced back and now he's up. Now he's up five to two.
2:02:50
As far as for the overall record, Josh, you have anything to
2:02:55
say about that? You you have to go on a little bit of a
2:02:58
run here to come back on me. You have to go four in a
2:03:00
row. You have to make me sweep. Hey, don't don't worry,
2:03:03
don't worry. Don't worry. But I just had to take my crown back
2:03:06
real quick. I had to let you feel a little happy, I feel
2:03:09
a little good about yourself, and then just take it back. You know,
2:03:13
well, well you know what this is where we bounce back right here,
2:03:15
because I may not have one against you, but I want a different
2:03:19
pick coms as far as with everybody else. So it's not like I'm missing
2:03:23
a lot. We're both so these past few weeks we've only been missing two
2:03:28
three games like overall, and so last week you only miss you only miss
2:03:34
one game, and I miss two games. So we're we're shooting a high
2:03:40
percentage right here. You're just do so if y'all, if y'all are making
2:03:43
bets, we're we're at least i'd say the time right Hell yeah, exactly.
2:03:50
So if you if you're trying to make money, just listen to this
2:03:54
podcast. That's simple. But we're gonna start off with this Thursday night game,
2:04:00
kind of a slower game, New England at Pittsburgh. Where can you
2:04:02
picken? Won't play? I'll do the Pittsburgh Steelers in this game. I
2:04:10
think they'll they'll get a couple more field goals in the New England Patriots.
2:04:14
I don't think nobody's gonna score a touchdown in this game. And I'm being
2:04:16
dead serious. Give me the Pittsburgh Steelers next. Next, we're gonna go
2:04:20
into these twelve o'clock games. Tampa Bay Buccaneers at the Atlanta Falcons. I'm
2:04:28
gonna this is a tough one to pick for me right here. Did you
2:04:35
want me to go? Yeah, you can go first. I want to
2:04:38
hear what you say. Give me the Heisman winner Baker Mayfield right here.
2:04:43
Oh, I feel like they'll beat the Falcons this time around. Yeah,
2:04:50
ah, you're gonna go against your guy. Yeah, I don't know.
2:04:56
I just feel like, yeah, give me, give me, give me
2:05:00
bigger in this one. Give me the Buccaneers because MIKEVI is gonna have another
2:05:02
big day. I agree. Next one, we have Detroit at Chicago,
2:05:08
where Chicago is coming off of bye. I don't know if that matters to
2:05:12
you at all. No on Detroit, Yeah no, give me Detroit two.
2:05:16
And now, which this game it kind of looks tough. Now,
2:05:19
the Colts at the Bengals. I got the Colts one. As much as
2:05:27
I want to pick, as much as I want to pick Cincinnati right here,
2:05:30
I just can't. I feel like the Colts they're going to be able
2:05:32
to just run the ball. Next one, we have the Jacksonville Jaguars at
2:05:38
the Cleveland Browns, where we don't know Trevor Lawrence status right here, So
2:05:43
this is a game where we could possibly change up if need be uh and
2:05:50
give me the Browns barring any Trevor Lawrence news that comes upon comes comes comes
2:05:58
forward, because I think Joe Flacco's was kind of balled out last week.
2:06:00
In my opinion, I think he looked good, and I think Trevor Lawrence
2:06:04
lists Jacksonville Jaguars won't be able to keep up with the Cleveland Browns. Yeah,
2:06:11
no, I agree, even if Trevor Lawrence he is here, I
2:06:13
think Cleveland they're just in the better spot to win. The next one,
2:06:15
we have Carolina Panthers at the New Orleans Saints, New Orleans Saints. I
2:06:25
don't know why it took too long a think about that. Yeah, give
2:06:27
me the Saints in that one. Yeah, no, give me the Saints
2:06:29
too. Next one, we have the Houston Texans at the New York Jets.
2:06:32
Dang, the Texans kind of have like a cakewalk schedule. Give me
2:06:38
the Texans in that one. After I just said cakewalk schedule, I'm pretty
2:06:42
sure you know who I'm picking right here. Give me the Texans. Next
2:06:45
one, we haven't disagreed yet. That's outcome. Don't worry, it will
2:06:50
happen. Next we have the Los Angeles Rams at the at Baltimore, which
2:06:56
the Ravens. They are coming off of a bye. Give me the Los
2:07:00
Angeles Rams in this one. Cut mainly because I need it the most,
2:07:04
mainly because I needn't need it. But I'm taking the Rams in this one.
2:07:11
Give me the Ravens. Uh, There's there's not much I could say
2:07:15
right here. If if the Rams, if we pick back to back upsets
2:07:18
right here, then this would be crazy. Give me the Ravens right here.
2:07:23
Minnesota at the Las Vegas Raiders. Raiders are coming off of a bye.
2:07:28
Oh no, Minnesota is too, both teams coming off of a bye.
2:07:32
Give me Justin Jefferson making his return. Yeah, no, give me
2:07:36
give me j Jetties here too. This offense it's about to explode. Seattle
2:07:42
at San Francisco. Give me San Francisco, San Francisco. Next one,
2:07:48
we have Buffalo at Kansas City. The Kansas City Chiefs and knocked the Bills
2:07:57
out of the playoffs in this one. Should I go Buffalo? Should I
2:08:03
do? I think the Chiefs are gonna do. I think the Chiefs are
2:08:07
gonna lose two in a row, man lose four out of their last six.
2:08:15
I'm really tempted right here because the Bills they are coming off of a
2:08:18
bye and they really need to win. You know what. I feel like,
2:08:24
this is stupid. I feel like the Chiefs are gonna end up blowing
2:08:28
them out of the water. But give me the Buffalo Bills right here,
2:08:31
it's just give me the Bills. I think it's gonna be. I don't
2:08:37
I don't know. I just feel like the Bills are gonna find a way
2:08:39
to win. Denver Broncos at the Los Angeles Chargers. Give me the Chargers.
2:08:46
Chargers. Let Ross cook Man. I know what I said. I'm
2:08:52
done. I know, I know I said I'm done with the Denver Broncos.
2:08:56
But I guess I'm going back. It's kind it's kind of like a
2:08:58
toxic relationship here. It's like no, It's like they come knocking back on
2:09:03
the door like I love you. It's like, I guess I'll go back
2:09:07
so don't give you the different goes right here, all right, for the
2:09:11
Sunday night game, we have a game of the week, big implications right
2:09:16
here in the NFC Philadelphia at Dallas. I'm taking Dallas in this one.
2:09:24
Yeah, give me the Cowboys right here, in which after this game,
2:09:28
Chris Collinsworth, he will say Dak Prescott is the mother fing MVP and it's
2:09:35
gonna be an MVP statement game. Then Monday, then the Monday Night football
2:09:39
games. It's actually two games. The first one it's Tennessee at Miami,
2:09:45
Miami. Yeah, no, give me Miami. Then the next one,
2:09:50
we have two all time great quarterbacks right here, one of the best matchups
2:09:54
we're gonna see all year. Jordan Love versus Tommy. Who do you got
2:10:01
in this one? My boy? Should I go with the Italian Stallion?
2:10:09
I'm going with the Packers. I'll let you make your bed. They're coming
2:10:16
off of a bye I don't know if that matters. Nah, I don't
2:10:20
have to go with the Packers. As much I love Tommy Devido, I
2:10:22
just can't. He'll he'll still have his chicken colors after the game from his
2:10:28
mom. But you know, I think that's the only thing he's gonna be
2:10:31
looking forward to after after Sunday, after Monday night, Hey, he'll he'll
2:10:37
get to go back home and sleep in his own bed. So I just
2:10:39
feel like this is a big Saquan day. I don't know why, Like,
2:10:43
I just feel like this is a Saquon day. But I don't know.
2:10:46
I'm just not gonna risk it. I know what you mean. There's
2:10:48
just times where you could just like fill upsets bruin if that makes sense.
2:10:52
Mm hmm. But all right, you want to get into the so called
2:10:56
MVPs first, Yeah, we can, all right. Uh so like we
2:11:03
do every single week, we do our so called MVPs of the week,
2:11:07
and Josh, did you want to go first? Right here? Uh,
2:11:09
you can go first. We have a lot of options this week. I
2:11:13
was about to say, there's a lot of damn options I have. I
2:11:16
wrote down so I know, I showed you a picture of all the options
2:11:18
I had. I end up going coming up with twelve total. So I
2:11:24
think I'm gonna just have to go with with old Deebo Samuel he stood on
2:11:28
business the entire the entire year. He said. After last year, he
2:11:33
said, no, this team is trash James Bradberry. He's asked, and
2:11:37
if rock Perty was healthy, we would have kicked their ass. And that's
2:11:41
exactly what they did. Four catch one hundred and sixteen yards, two receiving
2:11:43
touchdowns, three carries twenty two yards a touchdown, so that's one hundred and
2:11:48
thirty eight total yards, three touchdowns. That man is just a baller.
2:11:52
And at this point, I just want to give an honorable mention to Dak
2:11:56
Dak. He he called me. He's like, he's like, I don't
2:11:58
want to win your award every damn week, but if I have to,
2:12:01
then I will damn it. But all right, you go ahead. Who's
2:12:03
your MVP of the week. Mister Jake Browning is my soul called MVP of
2:12:11
the Week three fifty four in a touchdown thirty two of thirty seven. He
2:12:18
showed two for twenty two rushing also and a touchdown on the ground. I
2:12:22
forgot to mention that earlier he did. He did all he could to win
2:12:26
this football game. He looked like he looked okay. Traigman said it on
2:12:30
the broadcast, and I hate Traikeman because I think he's the most overrated quarterback
2:12:35
of all time. We can sit here and argue about it, because it's
2:12:37
the argument I will win. I will win this argument. I will win
2:12:41
this argument against anybody. But he said, even ten youre even ten yere
2:12:48
veteran quarterbacks don't have these type of games, and Traigman himself has never had
2:12:52
this type of game. So I'm gonna take Drake Browning as my soul called
2:12:56
MVP of the week. Honorable honorable mission goes to Mike Evans, goes to
2:13:03
Mike Evans, set him for one sixty two in a touchdown? Why why
2:13:07
did you? Why do you have to always throw these shots and at these
2:13:09
eighties, nineties, nineties players right here out of nowhere, because these old
2:13:15
heads want to talk football when freaking what's his face? Uh again, who
2:13:20
do I talk about? Try? Aikman had four seasons where he threw more
2:13:22
intercessions and touchdowns in a in a season, so I don't even want to
2:13:26
hear it. And he was carried by the best defense of the nineties.
2:13:31
He was carried by the greatest basically roster ever assembled in the history of football.
2:13:35
I just want to put that out there. He was he was carried
2:13:39
by those guys. I'm just saying like he really was. Right, I'm
2:13:45
not even gonna get into him. Have you ever looked up his Have you
2:13:46
ever looked up his stats? You want to do it right now? Okay,
2:13:50
Okay, let's come on, let's do it. Okay, I'll look.
2:13:56
We we got time, we got time. If he was if he
2:14:03
wasn't on those teams, Road Tragman would not be a Hall of Fame quarterback.
2:14:09
But super Bowls they do matter. Super Bowls they do matter. No,
2:14:13
that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If he wasn't on
2:14:15
those teams. But all right, So his best year was I'm looking at
2:14:24
it, it was nineteen ninety two, where he had three hundred and two
2:14:28
completions, four hundred seventy three attempts, sixty three point eight completion percentage,
2:14:31
three four hundred and forty five yards, twenty three touchdowns, fourteen interceptions,
2:14:37
and eighty nine point five q or A quarterback rating. So I understand,
2:14:46
I understand the time they played in. I understand the time they played in.
2:14:50
I understand it. He only threw over twenty touchdowns one time in his
2:14:56
NFL career one time. One time, he only threw a were twenty touchdowns
2:15:01
as the starting Hall of Fame NFL quarterback Dan Rino did that in his sleep.
2:15:07
Jan Rino did that in his sleep, and then he and then he
2:15:11
had a career one hundred and sixty five touchdown to one hundred and forty one
2:15:18
interceptions. Alfonso, he wants to talk about NFL quarterbacks on TV, about
2:15:22
turning over the football. He should have been listening to himself when he was
2:15:26
playing these football games. So okay, okay. So if you just want
2:15:33
to look at Troy Aigman's stats, just base level when you just look at
2:15:37
it, but compared to the rest of the league, you could say,
2:15:41
Dan Marino, okay, one hundred and sixteen sixteen passing yards, twenty four
2:15:46
touchdowns, sixteen interceptions. Steve Young was the only outlier outlier here three thousand
2:15:50
and four and sixty five yards, twenty five touchdown, seven interceptions. Jim
2:15:54
Kelly three four and fifty seven yards, twenty three touchdowns, nineteen in perceptions.
2:16:00
Who are the list of Troy Aikman's stats right there? So it just
2:16:03
looks like all I'm hearing is that these quarterbacks couldn't hold Tommy de Vito's nuts.
2:16:07
Sat okay, Man, Okay, it it just looks like, yeah,
2:16:18
there's only a few quarterbacks. When I'm counting one, two, three,
2:16:22
four, five, there was only five quarterbacks in the entire league in
2:16:28
nineteen ninety two Troy Aikman's best year where they had under double digit interceptions,
2:16:35
and a couple of those they had nine. So obviously that's why I hear
2:16:39
these. Okay, I'm a hater. I'm a hater towards Treigman. I'm
2:16:43
not even gonna lie, but like, I do think he's overrated. I
2:16:46
think a lot of those quarterbacks are overrated in my opinion, because like people
2:16:50
will sit here and say, like, like, who's that who's that old
2:16:54
coach from Indy? Like that the hell did you ever watch them? No,
2:17:00
from not from Indy, from that indie college blah blah blah from from
2:17:05
Netflix he had that little show or whatever coach Brown or Jason Brown or something
2:17:11
like that. Yes, I saw him saying that like that freaking Patrick Mahomes
2:17:16
couldn't hold John Elway's nutsack or something like that, And I was like,
2:17:22
bro, did you watch the same football that we were watching? Like you
2:17:26
put up John Elway would like it's probably sell soul of the devil to play
2:17:31
like Patrick Mahomes could play. Like, come on, bro, like John
2:17:35
Elway was not that good of a quarterback. If we really sit here and
2:17:39
like, look at all these guys from the nineties stats, that's there's a
2:17:41
reason why Joe Montana was so great in his time. Like he was just
2:17:46
he was just ahead of the curve. Okay, I could agree with you
2:17:50
as far as the talent and the skill is way better than what it was
2:17:54
in the nineties compared to now. That goes to any sport Baseball, basketball,
2:17:58
for sure, all that that's just obvious. I think that's just people
2:18:03
holding on to their general their generation. Like look, you have guys like
2:18:09
freaking DK Metcalf now and he's not even considered one of the best receivers in
2:18:13
the league. Like imagine putting. I hate when people they say, oh,
2:18:18
whoa, it was a more physical league back then. No, Bro,
2:18:22
football has not changed that much in my opinion, like football, Like
2:18:26
I get I get NBA, I get NBA NBA talk, yeah, But
2:18:28
with the NFL, you're dude, I think it's the most. It's the
2:18:33
most like like you can pull put a player from a generation and drop him
2:18:37
in another generation, and I bet you he does some of the same things
2:18:39
he did before. You know, Like, in my opinion, I think
2:18:41
NFL hasn't changed so extremely that like where we're sitting here and saying like,
2:18:46
oh, you know, I don't know if Lawrence Taylor would have been as
2:18:50
dominate in today's time. You know, the dude was on cocaine doing what
2:18:54
he was doing. Bro, Like you're telling me he wasn't gonna freaking jump
2:18:58
into the two thousands and dominate, you know. And then like we have
2:19:01
players like let's say Christian McCaffrey. If you throw Christian McCaffrey in the nineties,
2:19:05
it'd be like, oh my god, Yeah, what the hell are
2:19:07
we seeing right here? Like throw Derrick Henry in the nineties, Oh my
2:19:11
gosh. Or or even pull Barry Sanders from the nineties and put him in
2:19:16
the two thousands, it'd be like, what the Like he'd do the same
2:19:20
exact version of lt HM, he do the exact same things. Yeah,
2:19:26
I just think, yeah, skill has gotten way better. And like,
2:19:28
like I was mentioned, with these quarterbacks nowadays, they're brought her from like
2:19:33
five six years old and they're already learning how to read freaking cover two,
2:19:37
Cover three, Cover six. So by the time they get to the NFL,
2:19:41
Like, just imagine putting Justin Herbert, who who's argued to not even
2:19:46
be a top ten quarterback, put him in the league back then. I'm
2:19:50
not trying to be disrespectful here, but top two Jesus Yeah, no,
2:19:58
no, I I could see that. But as far as him being over
2:20:03
overrated, I wouldn't. Treyman, I wouldn't say he's overrated. I feel
2:20:07
like he's he's rated correctly in his era, if that makes sense, because
2:20:15
I guess I just can't. I just think he talks too much sometimes where
2:20:20
I'm like, bro, do you forget who you were when you were playing?
2:20:24
You know, like you know what I'm saying, Like he talks a
2:20:26
lot, or I'm like, I don't know, buddy, Like he's like
2:20:31
after he said that, after he said that about Jake Browning, I was
2:20:33
like, like, where he like he only were ten year vets only dream
2:20:37
of having this game, Like did you ever have that kind of game?
2:20:41
TrackMan? Did you ever play like that? You know? So it's like,
2:20:45
yes, yeah, he probably had like once a year, and they
2:20:48
were like he's the guy he was worth the first overall draffic Oh my goodness,
2:20:56
I didn't know how much hatred you had towards these nineties. So what
2:21:00
do you feel about Dan Marino? Is Dan Marino overrated? Then? I
2:21:07
think, honestly, you put den Marino in that Dallas Cowboys team. I
2:21:11
get den Reno had some good teams, but you give him Michael Irvin,
2:21:15
you give him MMT. Smith, you give him that offensive line, you
2:21:18
give him Charles Haley. On the other side, you give him Deon Sanders.
2:21:20
At one point, you give him Rod Dude, you tell me den
2:21:24
Marino doesn't win freaking five rings compared in compared to Tragman winning three. I
2:21:31
guarantee you den Reno gets you five. Okay, okay, let's let's let's
2:21:35
be real here. So ninety four the Niners, they were just a better
2:21:41
team. Steve Young, I don't feel like he couldn't He couldn't have won
2:21:46
as far as Dan Marino, he would have won ninety two, or he
2:21:50
would have won ninety two, ninety three, ninety four, I don't think
2:21:52
he would have won and then ninety five. But remember after ninety six,
2:21:56
that's when a bunch of injuries piled up. Treygman had those neck issues,
2:22:00
Emmi Smith got hurt a little bit more than nineteen. I don't know,
2:22:03
No, ninety seven, that's when Michael Irvin he had that spine injury.
2:22:07
He was out, so it was cut short. So but then, but
2:22:11
then, Dan Marino's best receiver was Mark super Duper bro Like, come on,
2:22:16
bro, Like you're who Buck Cooper didn't even talked about when it comes
2:22:20
to being a top fifty receiver of all time, top one hundred receiver,
2:22:26
Like, no one brings up Mark Duper Bro, Like you're telling me that
2:22:30
Dan Reno with Michael Irvin, Alvin Harper and then having Emmitt Smith in that
2:22:35
offensive line, he wouldn't have freaking dominated. Come on, dude, I'm
2:22:39
not Elvis Teams even gave him John John Elways teams Bro. Like I guarantee
2:22:45
you yeah, I just said that. Like I think they're all overrated.
2:22:50
I think outside of outside of Dan Marino, I think and Joe Montana,
2:22:56
like a lot of them are like Boomer asiasin won an MVP. Bro.
2:23:01
Come on, he was throwing Chris collins Worth. He was throwing at Chris
2:23:03
collins Worth. Bro. Oh my goodness, at least at least you're being
2:23:11
objective with it. You're not just talking about So what do you feel about
2:23:16
the So you think the skill position players like a Shannon Sharp, Jerry Rice,
2:23:20
Barry Sanders, Emmit Smith, Michael Urban, they'll be perfectly fine,
2:23:22
but not the quarterbacks necessarily. Yeah, okay, I think so. I
2:23:28
think the quarterbacks are too if you look at how their throwing mechanics are like
2:23:33
compared to now, and like, yeah, because if you look at Shannon
2:23:37
Sharp compared to some Titans now, like Shannon Sharp was having games where he
2:23:41
had like one hundred and eighty receiving yards and like one hundred, like he
2:23:43
was putting up numbers like It's not like he was just out here like like
2:23:48
putting up forty yard games like all that, like like kind of like he
2:23:52
wasn't playing like a Dallas Clark, you know what I'm saying, or like
2:23:54
a lesser versus let's say like Jackson Jason Waiting was dominant. I would say
2:23:58
that, but like he wasn't playing like let's say Jason Wayne was like a
2:24:03
little less productive like how normal tight ends from the nineties should have been.
2:24:07
That's why Shannon Sharp was such an outlier in the nineties because he was able
2:24:11
to do like the stuff the others weren't able to do, you know,
2:24:15
because he's fast. All created the receiving tight end role and Brett Farr put
2:24:18
up crazy numbers. I get he threw a ton of tips, a fuck
2:24:22
ton of interceptions, but he was going crazy in the nineties. Come on,
2:24:26
like, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, so that's
2:24:28
what I'm saying. Yeah, No, I could definitely agree with you.
2:24:33
As far as the quarterbacks, they're they're way better now because like I said,
2:24:37
they're just trained from the very get go. They're learned or they have
2:24:41
to read a defense by the age of seven, eight years old, all
2:24:45
these damn camps. Just like you said, the mechanics, everything's so perfect
2:24:48
now. But I think that's just the advancement and everything. Like I'm not
2:24:54
trying to get off the topic here, like in the trenches. Like in
2:24:56
the trenches, you're telling me you're not gonna drop Larry Allen in today's NFL.
2:25:01
Or you're not gonna drop a Mark Tune in today's NFL, Anthony Munos
2:25:03
in today's NFL. In the offensive line they're not going to dominate still,
2:25:07
you know, like or like you drop a REDG. White in today's NFL,
2:25:13
you drop Derek Thomas in today's NFL, you drop Charles Haley, you
2:25:16
drop all these big name trenches guys. They're not gonna dominate in today's NFL.
2:25:20
They're gonna go crazy, like they're gonna do the same exact things they're
2:25:24
doing, just with different rules. You know. So I'm gonna ask you
2:25:28
a question. So I know the DBS nowadays, even the great DBS,
2:25:33
they still get burned. Would Deon still be looked at the same, even
2:25:35
this passing, passing heavy offense. Yeah, I think Deon Senders would still
2:25:39
be the same guy. In my opinion, I think he's such an athlete,
2:25:43
like he's generational because he ran a four to three backwards for four backwards,
2:25:48
like no, no, no, he ran a four or five backwards.
2:25:50
Like come on, bro, you're telling me that guy's not even be
2:25:52
able to dominate. And I think he's just so confident in himself that he
2:25:56
would have figured it out. But if you're telling me, like like let's
2:26:00
say Albert Lewis that was on the Chiefs, I don't think he would be
2:26:05
the same dominance that he was when he was playing in the nineties, or
2:26:07
like, let's say, I'm trying to think of other corners from the night.
2:26:11
Oh, Eric Allen from the Eagles, Like yeah, he was,
2:26:16
like he was good, but like he was a pro bowler like often,
2:26:20
but like it was kind of like, I don't know if he'd be able
2:26:22
to be the same type of player in today's It's just really depending on who
2:26:26
you are. I guess with the dB position because the dB position is so,
2:26:28
but the safeties could have been good. I think, like Ronnie Lott.
2:26:31
You you tell me Ronnie Lott, who fucking amputated his finger in the
2:26:37
middle of a football game, that can keep playing. We ain't gonna be
2:26:39
the same guy in today's NFL or freaking Rod Woodson, you know. So
2:26:46
it's kind of like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like a lot
2:26:48
of these guys would still be the same. I think football is the skill
2:26:52
gap is mainly in the quarterback and dB position. In my opinion, I
2:26:56
can't agree. I can't agree with that. I feel like even even basketball
2:27:01
too, Like I'm I'm not trying again, I'm not trying to get off
2:27:05
topic, but Tyre's Halliburton. I don't know if you saw what he did
2:27:09
today, but you pop him, you PLoP him back into the nineties.
2:27:13
It jesus. They they think it's another version of Mike. NBA is different,
2:27:20
NBA is different. You drop up, you drop? Freaking Who am
2:27:22
I gonna say, Buddy Hilled in the nineties, Boy, he turned to
2:27:26
Reggie Miller. I guarantee you, I guarantee you. You drop, Buddy,
2:27:31
Buddy, you drop, you drop, you drop. I'm not even
2:27:33
gonna sit here and like I'll take any arguments from anybody. Sure, Michael
2:27:37
jordan Is is considered maybe the greatest or the second greatest of all time.
2:27:41
But it's gonna sound very controversial that I say this, But DeMar Dea Rosen
2:27:46
plays in the nineties. Buddy, he's gonna do the exact same things.
2:27:50
No, I'm saying it. They were, they weren't able to play.
2:27:54
They were they weren't able to play double teams. He would never got double
2:28:00
team in the in the nineties that that was illegal. You couldn't do that.
2:28:03
There was something also where like certain zones like if you transferred over like
2:28:07
too early, you could get penalized because you were playing basically double teaming.
2:28:13
Yeah, like it was all like just one on one things. Now players
2:28:16
are getting double team they're doing all this. Like I understand that that it
2:28:20
was more it was more physical, quote unquote, But they still went to
2:28:22
the free throw line. Like, they still went to the free throw line
2:28:26
after and shot free throws. You're telling me James Harden would have made some
2:28:28
money. James Harden goes to the free throw line, like amazing, Like
2:28:33
so, dude, they wouldn't know what to do. They see Russell Westbrook
2:28:35
running a freaking four or three across the court with the basketball in his hand
2:28:39
and jumping from the free throw line, they'd be like, God, they
2:28:43
wouldn't known what to do. Bro, Like you're telling me, Like,
2:28:46
no, Anthony Edwards in the nineties, imagine Anthony Edwards in the nineties.
2:28:50
Bro, No, I'm not doing that. Man, you're gonna you're gonna
2:28:58
have some old heads. I'm gonna give you. Let me give you players
2:29:03
from the nineties who would still be good. Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan,
2:29:07
Shaquille O'Neill. I'm gonna say to Tony Koukach would be good in today's NBA.
2:29:13
He was ahead of his time, Like see, I'm not gonna sit
2:29:16
here like he he could, he could shoot. He was like dirt before
2:29:18
dirt, Like he wasn't like the Star, but he was able to shoot.
2:29:22
I think Scottie Pippen would still be good in today's NBA because defensive,
2:29:28
Uh nah, I don't think he would be good in today's Oh no,
2:29:33
he might be because he can run the court. But you have to be
2:29:35
a scorer in today's NBA, and he just isn't that. Yeah, yeah,
2:29:39
you could be ran off the court like that. Yeah. Like yeah,
2:29:45
oh, Nicola Jo Kicch, Bro, what would they do if they
2:29:48
saw Nikola Yo Kicch play basketball? Bro? They would be so confused,
2:29:50
like they would not know what to do. Like, I'm guarantee you bro.
2:29:54
That's what I don't understand about people like Larry Bird. If you argue
2:29:58
Larry Bird to me, all right, dude, No, Like Larry Bird
2:30:01
would get rocked by Bam abbadio bam bro. Like come on, he was
2:30:09
playing against car still playing against Bill Carr, right, Moses Malone, Ralph
2:30:15
Sampson, dog, Like these guys were not freaking Ralph Sampson, he was
2:30:20
good while he was healthy, but he's playing against Robert Parrish. Like,
2:30:26
Bro, these guys, these guys had no muscle on their legs. Bro.
2:30:31
Like, these guys were just all straight, just freaking close lining people
2:30:35
like for no reason. They had no ball, They couldn't ball handle,
2:30:37
they couldn't do nothing. Bro. Oh man, I'm gonna get so much
2:30:43
heat after this pod. But bro, I'm like basketball and NFL, Like
2:30:46
the skill gap in the NFL isn't as big as the basketball gap in my
2:30:50
opinion. Oh man, well, I think we I think we basically did
2:30:56
our Q and E is right there. I yeah, I think we did
2:31:01
our right there, right. I mean, this is a fun conversation for
2:31:03
the people that lasted this long. I feel like, like, I feel
2:31:05
like we're gonna get a lot of old heads like coming after me. But
2:31:09
I'm okay with it. Like, dude, like I don't care what they
2:31:13
say. Reggie Miller could play in today's NBA. Yeah, Reggie Miller.
2:31:16
Hakeem, what do you feel about Patrick Ewing That that's kind of he'd be
2:31:22
he'd be Mitchell Robinson. Okay, Okay, that's a good comparison. That's
2:31:30
not like, that's not like like Patrick Ewing was not moving. M he
2:31:35
was not moving like Hakeem. He would get bored. No, no,
2:31:37
no, yeah, yeah, I know. But okay, so there were
2:31:41
star players at the end of the day, you don't think you give them
2:31:45
the benefit of the doubt for trying to figure figure out or adapt to the
2:31:48
game, because that's what great players usually do. Bro. They wore knee
2:31:52
pads, they were wearing knee braces, dog like, they had no they
2:32:01
could not move laterally for crap. Okay, there's a reason why Tim Duncan
2:32:11
came in. There's a reason why Tim Duncan came in and won M v
2:32:15
P in his second year. Bro, there's a reason why he came in
2:32:18
and took David Robinson to the I get David Robinson. I love David Robinson,
2:32:20
but there's a reason he huh, Yeah, he couldn't. He couldn't
2:32:26
win with Tim Duncan. He would just get choked. He would get to
2:32:30
the end and be like he was, And David Robinson was probably the most
2:32:33
athletic center of the time. Yeah, Like, if we're really sitting here
2:32:37
like he was, he probably was, and like he he just couldn't he
2:32:41
he I don't know he'd be all right. He I think he'd be able
2:32:45
to play in today's NBA because how how good he could move. Yeah,
2:32:48
yeah, no, I agree with that. Just I didn't expect all this
2:32:52
smoke to come out. We we just talked about our MVPs of the week.
2:32:56
The next thing, you know, we're saying that Trake Man and we
2:33:00
were talking about players, and you brought up NBA and I just went off
2:33:03
like I was like, nah, Like, dude, Kyrie Irving, you're
2:33:07
telling me Kyrie Irving would not go crazy in the nineties nasty in the nineties.
2:33:11
Oh my goodness, dude, Alan I Jesus dude. Allen Iverson came
2:33:16
in at late nineties and he cook Michael Jordan bro Like, come on,
2:33:22
bro, like he couldn't even like Tim Hardaway Junior cross Tim Hardaway could play
2:33:26
in today's NBA. Yeah, Tim, Tim Hardaway, Yeah, Tim Hardaway
2:33:31
Junior. He could play in nineties. It's not like I don't know what
2:33:35
I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I've watched basketball.
2:33:37
I love sports like I basketball I love more than football, like I ow
2:33:41
hit like I love basketball like no, like these guys, they're they're just
2:33:46
different now, like and maybe twenty years from now, we're gonna look at
2:33:48
players and be like, nah, we're probably gonna be the old heads that
2:33:52
are, like you're telling me Stephen Curry couldn't play in y'all's NBA. Y'all
2:33:54
wouldn't know what to do seeing Stephan Oh, yeah, that's gonna be just
2:33:58
one day. I think that's just part of it, just seeing bias right
2:34:03
there. I think that's just that's just part of it. Like eventually,
2:34:07
like in sixty years, they're gonna be like Michael Jordan, he he played
2:34:11
against nobody's, or they're gonna say Lebron James played against nobody's. I just
2:34:16
feel like they always adapt. Like I feel like Wimby, he's the next
2:34:20
generation. Wimby and Chet Holmgren, they're the next generation of like freaking newtants,
2:34:24
You're next thing. No, you're gonna see all NBA players being seven
2:34:28
seven damn foot and all having ball ball handle. Bro. The point guards
2:34:33
are you can't even be six foot one no more and be a point guard.
2:34:37
You have to be six foot four or taller. Yeah, exactly,
2:34:41
just just proves our point. But all right, I think we should go
2:34:43
ahead and wrap up this episode right here. Josh, is there anything else
2:34:46
you want to say before we him this episode? I said, yeah,
2:34:50
yeah, yeah, no you you said it all. But before we close
2:34:56
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