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Drive Thru News #47 - The $50,000 Millennial Gray Challenge · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  We ready?
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  Yup.
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  Dun, dun, dun.
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  Welcome to drive through episode number 47.
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  Wow.
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  47 of these things.
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  This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of
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  automotive, motorsport, and random.
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  Car adjacent news.
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  Let's pull up to window number one for some automotive news.
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  Yeah, I was looking at the notes.
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  I actually like what we're doing here with the car stuff.
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  But what can you do with 50, 000?
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  That's right.
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  Well, we're coming off a shlew of what should I buy?
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  So I figured you know what?
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  I know how much you guys love it when I start doing math.
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  We remember how that drive thru went down, but I was like, I've been called out more
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  than once about this mythical 50, 000.
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  So I was like, you know what?
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  How about I do a little bit of homework?
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  50, 000 does not go as far as it used to.
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  No, it does not.
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  It does not.
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  Okay.
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  Well, before we jump into our showcase, our what can you buy showcases?
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  For the month, we got a little bit of cyber truck update for you, Brad.
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  I know you are really, really regretting not buying this truck.
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  This is something you can not buy for our mythical dollar amount that we're going
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  to talk about later, but what's going on with the cyber truck that I don't have?
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  Tanya, do you want to go there?
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  I don't even know what the problem is.
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  What do you mean you don't know what the problem is?
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  There's always a problem with the Cybertruck.
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  Well, there's so many.
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  Which one are we talking about?
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  Right now, we're talking about the windshield wipers detaching from
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  the truck because even they think the truck is so ugly, they don't
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  want to be associated with it.
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  11, 000 Cybertrucks have been recalled due to trim and wiper issues.
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  How does that work?
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  They've only sold like 5, 000 of them.
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  No, no, no, The trim, that's old news.
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  Like those pieces were coming off the back end already for a while.
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  Well, now they're acknowledging the fact that there's a problem with the
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  Cybertruck that needs to be addressed.
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  Yeah.
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  So, so they're doing a formal recall.
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  Right.
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  Okay.
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  I got it.
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  Right.
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  You know, we've talked about this before.
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  How do they fix things?
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  Which aisle in Home Depot are they going to get the fix for this particular recall?
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  And I was thinking, Do they glue the wiper back on?
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  Do they rivet it on?
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  It's not, that's not the issue.
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  The trim piece is what's falling off.
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  So they most certainly will glue the trim piece back on or rivet
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  it like they did the pedal piece.
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  No, no.
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  They're going to use Ni Tis.
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  Oh.
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  They're going to Ni Ti it to the wiper and it's not coming off after that.
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  Realistically, that thing is 67 feet long.
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  Can you imagine walking into Vance Auto or AutoZone and like, I need
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  a wiper blade for a Cybertruck.
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  Where do they keep?
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  This six foot long Bosch edge wiper blade.
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  They don't, you probably have to special order it.
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  And then it takes like six months or something, but the problem with the
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  windshield wiper is not the wiper itself is the motor where the motor
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  controller may just stop functioning due to electrical overstress
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  to the gate driver component.
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  So the wiper blade is so big and the motor is too small.
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  That's what I just heard.
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  You would have to imagine that an electric.
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  Car company would be able to figure out how to get enough juice to power
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  a 6, 000 foot windshield wiper.
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  Nah, nah, we're still working on that.
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  But yet the truck has enough power to pull a 9 11 and race against
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  the 9 11 while pulling a 9 11, but it can't move its wiper arm.
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  We were going to put laser beams as wipers instead, and yet we
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  can't manage a technology that's been around for how many decades?
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  A hundred years.
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  Like literally, I bet they had the technology for the laser beams, but
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  the NHTSA was probably like, nah, dog.
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  That's not for me, dog.
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  Not, nah, nah, nah, nah.
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  LASIK sales were going to be infringed upon.
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  That's perfect.
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  You buy a cyber truck and you can give yourself LASIK.
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  That's awesome.
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  But you know, as I dug into this article from Electric Which is a
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  bit of a tech website, but they bring up EVs quite a bit, sort of
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  baffled by the picture that they had.
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  And as I looked into it a little bit more, apparently the picture
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  that they used in the article has nothing to do with the wiper blade,
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  which is what was puzzling to me.
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  It has everything to do with a Russian cyber truck smuggling ring.
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  Is that the two trucks in front of a tractor trailer?
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  Right.
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  And I'm like, wait, what?
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  So I want to know where that story is, or is it some sort of weird, like
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  SEO to get Google to find their site?
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  Because they're putting the appropriate words together in
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  the picture data or whatever.
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  So I was like, this is really weird.
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  So I couldn't find any evidence of this particular thing as I was digging into
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  that, but I was like, oh, okay, well, whatever, but that's okay because.
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  There's another thing with the Cybertruck that was brought
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  up on, of all places, Reddit.
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  You read it here, folks.
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  Yeah, right.
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  So we're talking a majority of the systems on the Cybertruck are electric.
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  Well, the steering is two and apparently it has input delay and
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  somebody took a video of just how slow it is to react to a driver's input.
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  The caption reads, Imagine dying in a car accident because of input delay.
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  I don't know.
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  It's imperceptible from this video.
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  And they're not moving, which there's a difference.
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  I mean, anybody who's driven a car without power steering knows that.
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  It's much easier to turn the wheel when the vehicle is moving than
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  when the vehicle is stationary.
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  Granted, this shouldn't be happening, but I've never tested this with
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  any other drive by wire car.
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  I would like to think that it doesn't happen.
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  Who's turning the steering wheel like that?
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  That's an invasive maneuver.
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  Invasive maneuver.
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  Not the way he's doing it.
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  You're going to roll that.
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  Exactly.
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  And that's what I was thinking too.
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  I was like, if you're turning that hard at speed, you are basically going
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  to instigate a rollover situation.
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  You shouldn't be turning that much that quickly.
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  Still, I mean, to their point, it's obviously exaggerated.
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  Maybe there is something to the input delay.
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  I don't know.
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  You know, that's a Tesla problem or a technology problem.
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  Doesn't Lexus have one of the cars that has the drive by wire as well?
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  I can't remember now.
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  There was something about theirs too.
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  I think it was still better than this, but maybe not even perfect either.
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  Isn't that how they do the self parking system as well, where everything is
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  controlled by the computer and it's turning the wheels and all that, so it
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  has to be like drive by wire in that way?
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  There are a lot of cars out there that are drive by wire.
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  I believe my R32 is drive by wire.
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  Only on the throttle.
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  Nothing else.
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  Oh, yeah, that's true.
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  We are talking about the steering here.
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  That's right.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Now what's scary is the cars that are brake by wire, where there's no relation
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  between the pedal and what's happening at the calipers, that To me is scary.
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  That's why you need that brain input that Elon Musk is trying to sell that way.
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  You can just, all you gotta do is think about breaking and it's going to happen.
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  Oh, okay.
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  No need for a foot.
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  That explains why the wiper blade stuff is buried in the menu system.
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  You're just supposed to be like Spock and mind meld with the cyber truck.
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  And then the wiper starts working.
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  My thoughts to your thoughts.
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  I take it that's a Star Trek reference.
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  Yeah.
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  What gave it away?
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  I've never driven a car with this feature to it, but what would be
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  more concerning is the numbness.
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  Does it have force feedback?
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  Is that a Thrustmaster?
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  Did they put the wrong Thrustmaster in there?
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  No!
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  See, think about it.
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  How numb that steering wheel must be.
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  If it's not connected to anything.
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  They gotta upgrade to that Fanatec.
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  Where's your sensation?
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  Legitimately, where's the force feedback?
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  Oh my god.
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  Well, don't they have the ball tickler?
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  There's the sensation.
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  My Mark VI Volkswagen had electric assist, but it was still obviously all mechanical.
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  So that, you really couldn't tell the difference.
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  So much versus like a hydraulic assisted car from the old days, but yeah, a
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  totally drive by wire system like this.
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  I've only driven a couple model threes and I just thought they felt numb in
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  general, but then again, I'm looking at it with a different lens than your
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  standard daily driver commuter person.
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  So I would want it to react a little differently.
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  I've been in a Tesla on track.
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  What I walked away from was that they feel heavy because they are heavy.
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  You know, that's a whole nother discussion.
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  All this drive by wire, fly by wire stuff.
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  You know, what's wrong with a cable?
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  What's wrong with a brake pedal that pushes liquid?
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  I don't know.
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  All this extra complication for things that are just going to break.
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  Yeah.
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  Bye bye.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  So we'll put a pin in that for now, because there's always more Tesla and
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  cyber truck shenanigans happening.
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  So let's get into our showcase here.
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  So we mentioned at the beginning, we're coming off of some, what should I buy?
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  So it's been in my head for a while that I've been roasted a couple of times.
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  I keep saying that every new car is 50, 000 and you guys keep telling
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  me, no, no, no, that's not true.
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  You can buy something that you would like for less than 50 grand and
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  I'm like, okay, so you know what?
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  I put pen to paper and I started doing research and clicking around and.
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  Doing the build my own kind of stuff, but it also dawned on me.
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  I can't just go try and buy what I want or what I would choose as my next daily
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  driver, because I was spending a lot of time behind the windshield since the
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  last drive through, I started looking at the cars that are on the road.
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  You know, I'm reading badges, trying to look at packages that
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  people bought because I want to see what's kind of the general populace.
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  And I can assume that they're SUVs.
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  Nobody's buying cars anymore.
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  Not really.
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  And vans, I mean, whatever that's, you know, that's a whole
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  different ball game of rarity.
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  So what I did is I kind of pared down my shopping criteria and
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  I said, midsize SUVs, which.
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  Are larger than the 10 years ago.
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  So I also had to kind of open my aperture there a little bit as well.
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  So I said, not a C.
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  U.
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  V.
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  and it's got to be a base model with all wheel drive and hybrid if it's available.
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  And the only other thing that I know that I would want that my wife
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  would run that most people buy is like the weather package, right?
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  We want the monster mats and we want the cargo liner.
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  Whether we're millennials or Xenials or Gen Xers or whatever the hell generation
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  we're considered now, I have no clue.
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  I went with millennial gray.
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  And there's a good reason for picking that too.
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  So I'm going to go through all this.
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  Who are we buying for Eric or somebody else?
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  When I looked at this and I did the research, I'm like, what would
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  somebody in the middle of Ohio buy?
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  So I said, all right, let me go down to my local virtual car dealership.
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  And the first one on the list was Honda.
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  Sorry, I heard Honda and my eyes glazed over.
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  Um, so.
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  Apparently your ears did too.
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  Paying 50, 000 for a Honda seems outrageous.
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  Midsize SUV.
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  What did I choose?
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  CR V Sport Hybrid.
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  MSRP 34, 350.
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  Options that I needed to add to meet my shopping criteria, all wheel drive.
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  And did you know that gray paint out of all the cars that we're going to
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  talk about, including this Honda, you pay extra to get gray, whether
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  it's gray or silver or pewter or some sort of combination, right?
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  And then you add the all season protection package.
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  Everybody's got a kind of different name for it.
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  Brand new CRV sport hybrid 38048 before taxes, tags, and all the other fun stuff.
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  And I said, okay, that's cool.
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  All right.
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  My next part of this adventure was as I got like to the third or fourth car,
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  I'm like, but wait a minute, because everybody keeps telling me because
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  chips and there's no cars and that, so I said, search inventory for any matches.
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  To what I wanted to buy.
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  But a lot of dealers don't stock base models.
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  Right.
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  They'll have one or two to get you to come in the door, but then they upsell
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  you to all this other stuff as well.
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  Here's the inventory that we actually have for only 100 more
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  a month on your monthly payment.
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  And again, I'm not asking for a whole lot.
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  The base package with all wheel drive in gray with an all season package,
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  which is again, just mats and a cargo liner nationwide inventory of that CRB.
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  Six cars, six.
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  So that meant if I were to roll down to the local Honda dealership, they
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  wouldn't have what I wanted, especially not at 38, 000, I could get stuck
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  with something else and you know, the people are doing that, but they're just
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  like, man, I don't have time to wait.
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  I'm just going to buy what's here.
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  I don't really care.
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  I just need a car, you know, whatever it is.
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  Maybe you could pay the base price of 34, 000.
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  Or you could end up paying way more than 38, 000 by the
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  time it's all said and done.
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  Sometimes I want a base model because we had the discussion last time.
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  If you want to soup it up or, you know, put modifications and stuff
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  on it, you don't need to buy what the dealer is trying to sell or
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  what the manufacturer put together.
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  Cause you're just going to mess with it anyway.
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  Not to be outdone, I'm going to look at slightly larger cars in the Honda fleet.
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  So I looked at the pilot.
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  Starts at 30, nine, nine.
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  And then we've talked about the new prologue and here we are getting that
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  much closer to that mythical 50, 000.
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  The prologue starts at 47, four.
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  So what can you buy for 50 grand from Honda?
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  Any of those three cars that I mentioned, but taxes, tags, fees,
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  and any other options are going to inch you closer to 000 number.
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  Am I trying to buy at 50, 000 or.
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  under 50, 000.
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  No, you guys told me that there are tons of other cars out
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  there for less than 50, 000.
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  I'm on the build list.
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  And if you're just darting MSRPs, the HR V is 25, 000, the 000, the CR V hybrid is
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  35, 000, the Pilot's 40, 000, the Passport is 42, 000, the Prologue SUV is 47, 000,
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  the Civic sedan is 24, 000, the Accord, which is 25, 000, Looks the same as a
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  civic sedan is 28 . Nobody buys those.
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  They're cars.
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  Nobody buys cars.
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  That's the whole point.
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  They buy SUVs.
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  Every single thing on Honda's page.
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  They have 26 cars available.
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  All under 50 grand starts under.
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  But to Eric's point, once you add options, 'cause he had specific option criteria.
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  It took the price up.
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  His next point was search available dealer inventory.
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  They only had six nationwide of his particular criteria.
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  Next up, you'd have to get into a different vehicle.
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  I mean, yeah, you went and looked at base models.
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  So when you put it in those terms, yes, manufacturers technically are offering
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  these cars, but I see where you're going where people aren't actually buying.
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  Cars that are in that price range.
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  So I, I understand what you're doing now.
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  I want it to be fair because I've been accused too.
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  And I know that I'll do this because it's a lot harder to add all the
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  whiz bang, cool, fun stuff later.
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  So I'm always like, man, buy the biggest, baddest one there is,
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  because you won't regret not having it later when you have all the options.
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  But I wanted to be real because people don't shop like that.
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  And I've been told that's not how people shop.
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  So I said, fine, I'll go to the other side of the pendulum swing.
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  And I'll start with a base model in all the categories of what
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  I considered domestic cars.
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  People probably scratching their heads going Honda.
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  Well, a lot of those Hondas are built here in the United States.
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  Toyota, the same thing.
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  Eric, let's do an experiment.
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  Can we find out what is the number one best selling vehicle
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  in the country right now?
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  That's the Ford F-150.
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  We already know that.
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  I thought it wasn't.
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  I thought they got beat out Well.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  Well that's, that's a good place to start.
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  Ford F-150.
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  Surprise surprise.
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  Once you get past the F-150 and the Silverado, the third
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  on the list is the RAV4.
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  Yeah, you were spot on looking at the RAV4.
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  And then after that, the RAV4 comes the ram and then the crv.
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  So that's what people are buying.
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  And then we can go in and price a Ford F-150 and that'll tell us if
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  that's the number one selling car.
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  I don't think you could buy one for under 50 grand.
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  Can you?
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  Well, there you go.
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  Then to Eric's point, people are not paying less than 50, 000 for a car.
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  Because if you look at the statistics of what the number one selling vehicle
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  in the country is right now, and if it's not less than 50, 000, Oh, no,
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  I just assumed started already at 50.
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  They actually don't know.
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  F one 50 started in the thirties.
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  And then usually trucks have really big rebates.
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  I know whenever I was looking, you could get at least eight to 10, 000 in rebates.
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  At any given moment when purchasing a truck, a simplified version of this is
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  what are the top five number one best selling cars in the country right now?
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  So I was trying to discount the outliers because there are plenty of
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  Corollas and other stuff on the road.
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  And there are plenty of F one fifties, a majority of trucks,
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  Silverados or Dodge Rams or whatever.
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  Because there's a high concentration of that, but let's just say
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  you're an average, normal person.
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  What are they buying today?
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  They're buying a CRV.
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  No, they're buying a CRV.
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  They're buying a RAV4.
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  They're buying an Equinox.
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  They're buying a Ford Edge.
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  So I started looking at those and what do they have in common?
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  Midsize SUV with all wheel drive, because everybody's got this fantasy that we
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  have to have all wheel drive now too.
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  So nobody buys the front wheel drive base models.
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  And what the dealerships have done.
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  Is they've gotten smart and all wheel drive is an add on.
• 17:03
  But if you look for a base, base, base, vanilla front wheel drive
• 17:07
  SUV, there's like zero, right?
• 17:09
  There were barely any base all wheel drives out there when I was looking.
• 17:13
  Buy a RAV4 all wheel drive for under 30 base.
• 17:16
  He's buying those.
• 17:17
  They're buying hybrids.
• 17:18
  So you have to add the hybrid.
• 17:19
  32, 000 is the starting price.
• 17:21
  So the hybrid was one of Eric's criteria.
• 17:23
  Yes, it has to be hybrid now.
• 17:25
  You have to fit into his sandbox.
• 17:27
  Okay.
• 17:27
  What's the point of that?
• 17:28
  The point is Keep the car you have because it's not worth going
• 17:32
  to buy a new one unless it died.
• 17:34
  There you go.
• 17:34
  You hit the nail on the head.
• 17:36
  Exactly.
• 17:37
  So that's always the answer to the argument.
• 17:38
  It's always cheaper to keep her.
• 17:39
  You know, there are a good percentage of CRVs and RAV4s and Ford Edges
• 17:44
  and things like that on the road.
• 17:45
  But when you start really looking at Maybe what people are driving
• 17:48
  in certain geographical areas.
• 17:51
  Let's say in the DMV versus the middle of Arkansas, it's going to be different.
• 17:56
  You know what I mean?
• 17:57
  Because the cost of living is different and there's a certain like level of status
• 18:00
  when we go down the beltway here, all we see is Audi's and BMW's and Cayenne's and
• 18:05
  the major part of the cars on the road.
• 18:08
  In a high populous area, especially in a much more affluent area
• 18:12
  are going to be more expensive.
• 18:13
  So when I go down the road, I feel like a cheap bastard because I'm in an old car
• 18:17
  at the time it was expensive, but compared to what people are rolling around.
• 18:20
  And now I'm driving a base model when I had the top of
• 18:23
  the line model 10 years ago.
• 18:25
  And it's just like, what they're paying is mind boggling.
• 18:28
  That's the whole thing.
• 18:29
  And so when I went and looked at this cross section.
• 18:32
  It's the usual suspects, the CRV, the RAV4, the Edge,
• 18:36
  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 18:36
  But as I dug a little bit deeper and I started looking at like, I
• 18:42
  couldn't even find anything to buy.
• 18:44
  Chrysler's got one vehicle.
• 18:45
  The other Pacifica Dodge like has nothing at the moment.
• 18:49
  And then Jeep just 86, a bunch of their stuff.
• 18:52
  So you're left with the Jeep Cherokee, which is the only thing
• 18:55
  I could make as a comparison.
• 18:56
  And even there, you're coming in at 50.
• 18:58
  40, 000 optioned out the way I did it.
• 19:01
  All wheel drive, gray paint, all season, weather package, all that kind of stuff.
• 19:04
  But there were none available.
• 19:06
  You couldn't get a base model Cherokee.
• 19:07
  Everything was a Trailhawk, which then jumps the price up.
• 19:11
  So then what's the price of a Grand Cherokee?
• 19:14
  And they tout on their website, 36, 500.
• 19:16
  But.
• 19:17
  If I add the hybrid and all this other stuff, I was suddenly at
• 19:20
  61, 000 and jeeps sell like crazy.
• 19:24
  We know that I didn't even want to look at the price of Wranglers
• 19:27
  because we talked about this before they've gone through the roof.
• 19:29
  So then I said, all right, I'm going to go back to my old stomping grounds as much as
• 19:34
  it pains me to do this because I saw the commercial, like literally the day I was
• 19:37
  doing the research, the summer of savings, but they spelled it S A V W I N G.
• 19:43
  I was like, this is such a terrible commercial.
• 19:45
  So I was like, all right, you got my attention because I'm
• 19:47
  doing the homework anyway.
• 19:48
  I wasn't even going to look.
• 19:49
  There's nothing.
• 19:50
  So to meet my criteria, all you can buy is an ID4 standard.
• 19:53
  That's the base.
• 19:54
  It starts at 40, 000.
• 19:56
  And as soon as I started selecting anything, it didn't matter what it was.
• 20:00
  You're just like, okay, ID4 standard.
• 20:02
  I don't understand what was going on with the configurator.
• 20:04
  41, 000.
• 20:06
  Like it was like a 2, 000 jump immediately.
• 20:08
  And I don't even know what the hell was going on.
• 20:10
  The other thing is the ID four is rear wheel drive.
• 20:12
  And I'm like, what?
• 20:14
  There's no all season package.
• 20:15
  I could get it in gray.
• 20:16
  And then if you wanted the all wheel drive, you had to opt for
• 20:19
  the ID four Pro, which then moved me basically right to $50,000.
• 20:23
  I'm like $50,000 for a vw.
• 20:25
  That's not gonna happen.
• 20:26
  I drew a line at $35,000 for a Volkswagen 50,000.
• 20:30
  I'm not giving them 50 grand.
• 20:32
  But then if you look at the used car market, it's still just as crazy.
• 20:35
  So what do you buy for under 50 grand?
• 20:39
  You buy these midsize SUVs, if you can find them with very, very minimal creature
• 20:45
  comfort add on things that you might want, because some of the packages that
• 20:49
  come with these vehicles are super cool, but you're jumping five grand every time
• 20:53
  you want to add something, you know, you want this stereo package or you want
• 20:56
  this thing or this other it's, it's nuts.
• 20:59
  It's shenanigans.
• 20:59
  It's collusion.
• 21:00
  100%.
• 21:01
  So what did I learn?
• 21:03
  I learned that some configurators are better than others.
• 21:06
  They're also very different and some are extremely awful.
• 21:09
  I had some problems with a bunch of, um, compatibility with
• 21:12
  browsers and stuff like that.
• 21:13
  I also realized that the whole Burger King, you can have it your way thing.
• 21:18
  That ain't happening either.
• 21:19
  You know, there's been talk from Volvo and Ford about how
• 21:22
  you can order it all a cart.
• 21:23
  Yeah.
• 21:23
  I didn't see any of that.
• 21:24
  I went to those websites just for giggles.
• 21:27
  Nope.
• 21:27
  But you can still walk into a dealership and place an order
• 21:31
  for a car to get exactly what you want within the manufacturer's.
• 21:35
  Parameters if you want to wait six months, sure.
• 21:38
  I've done it before.
• 21:39
  That is one way people can actually get what they want if
• 21:42
  you're willing to wait for it.
• 21:43
  That's the whole thing.
• 21:44
  Like nowadays we don't even like the buying process.
• 21:47
  We don't even want to talk about the car Vanna's and all that kind
• 21:49
  of stuff to make buying easier.
• 21:51
  So the dealer process is a little like, we all just like, can I just order
• 21:55
  it and have it show up via Amazon?
• 21:56
  And they dropped my car off.
• 21:57
  The builders are kind of stupid.
• 21:59
  Because when it comes to that inventory search, you're literally just better
• 22:03
  off going down to your local Ford dealer and seeing what they have on the lot and
• 22:06
  then just be happy with what they have.
• 22:08
  And the other thing is if you do the nationwide search for cars,
• 22:12
  which is really interesting.
• 22:14
  If you went down to your local dealership and they didn't have what you wanted
• 22:17
  in the old days, you could do what they call the DX, which was a dealer exchange.
• 22:21
  They would take something off their lot and they would swap with another dealer.
• 22:23
  That way, they weren't out the car and they're making the sale.
• 22:26
  And there's all this backdoor stuff going on.
• 22:27
  There are now so many hefty destination fees to do something like that, that
• 22:32
  they're trying to persuade you never to do a DX again, forcing you into that
• 22:36
  position of just be happy with what we have on the lot, the buying process.
• 22:40
  I don't want to have to go through it again.
• 22:42
  If I don't have to, I think that's where I was at the bottom line.
• 22:45
  I guess at the end of the day, when you look at this list of data, which we'll
• 22:48
  have in the show notes, Are any of these cars something that if you needed a
• 22:51
  new car today, do that summer savings close out of the 24 models because the
• 22:56
  new ones are right around the corner.
• 22:57
  September is the 2025 year for cars.
• 23:00
  Would you buy anything off this list?
• 23:02
  No, first of all, I think all of that's bullshit.
• 23:04
  I think you buy a car when you need a car and that's just when you buy a car, you
• 23:09
  don't, Oh my God, they're having a sale.
• 23:10
  I have to go buy the car.
• 23:11
  Now, if you don't need a car, don't go buy a car.
• 23:13
  I just priced a GR Corolla circuit edition.
• 23:18
  Done.
• 23:19
  I don't want to use a little trash on your list.
• 23:21
  I got a deal for you, though.
• 23:23
  You know what the biggest bargain I found was?
• 23:25
  You know what you should buy, Tanya?
• 23:26
  You can get a brand new 2024 Chevrolet Malibu 26995.
• 23:33
  Optioned out.
• 23:34
  26995.
• 23:36
  Yeah, okay.
• 23:39
  Going back to all the times that we bring this up when we talk about it, yes, you
• 23:43
  can buy a car for less than 50, 000, but is that the car you want to drive?
• 23:47
  Is that the car you want to be stuck with for the next 10 years?
• 23:50
  A GR Corolla Circuit Edition?
• 23:51
  Yeah, but you're spending 50, 000 for that.
• 23:54
  If you're telling me I have to spend 50, 000 on something, I'd
• 23:57
  rather have that than a RAV4.
• 23:59
  I don't know, Brad, C63 AMG Mercedes used?
• 24:03
  You'd probably get that for less than 30, 000.
• 24:05
  I thought we were buying new from the dealer.
• 24:07
  There's options on the table.
• 24:09
  That's all I'm saying.
• 24:10
  But yeah, so, so we stopped talking about the normal car buyer and we started
• 24:14
  talking about the enthusiasts, which takes us into a whole different realm.
• 24:18
  One point I was trying to stretch my budget to get a black series because
• 24:21
  you could get one for around 60.
• 24:23
  The first gen, the CLK black series, they were hovering around 60 grand.
• 24:27
  I don't know what they are now.
• 24:28
  Probably higher.
• 24:29
  I was like, you know, I could make that work.
• 24:31
  I still wouldn't be able to buy a 50, 000 Toyota, I don't think.
• 24:34
  Just think about that.
• 24:35
  We talked about this before, the price of the Volkswagens, where the GTI is going
• 24:39
  to be with the Mark VIII and a half.
• 24:40
  So if the GR Corolla is there, the Golf R is going to be 50, 000.
• 24:45
  For sure, because they got to compete.
• 24:46
  320 horsepower competition?
• 24:49
  Well, I don't think we've actually figured out which of
• 24:51
  these cars are we going to buy.
• 24:53
  Okay, so now we're forced to choose off this list.
• 24:56
  Yeah, if you had to pick something off this list, what would it be?
• 24:59
  Honda CR V, RAV4, Ford Edge, Chevy Trailblazer, Jeep Cherokee.
• 25:04
  VW ID4.
• 25:06
  No, I don't want any of these.
• 25:08
  God, I have to choose.
• 25:09
  I would do the ID4 rear wheel drive, and I would slap on some extra Ryobi batteries
• 25:15
  to get a little more juice out of it.
• 25:16
  I'd pick the Jeep all day long.
• 25:18
  I like the Stellantis products these days.
• 25:20
  I think I would go with that.
• 25:21
  I know what I'm getting into.
• 25:22
  I know what the all wheel drive's like.
• 25:24
  There's certain things about the Jeep that have just become sort
• 25:26
  of second nature now, so I think that's where I would spend my money.
• 25:29
  Can I get the Trailhawk?
• 25:31
  Yes, those are available.
• 25:33
  I'd probably get that.
• 25:34
  She says with complete disdain, she's like a total reluctance.
• 25:41
  I have to, I guess I'll buy a Jeep as of July, 2024, the average
• 25:45
  transaction price for a new car in the U S is 47, 000 January, 2023.
• 25:52
  The average new car transaction price was 49, 004 68.
• 25:56
  So it has come down a little bit.
• 25:58
  Yeah, you did all that research when we just needed two quick Google searches.
• 26:02
  You know, I can't win for trying, that's for sure, right?
• 26:05
  Well, that said, I did a lot of homework.
• 26:08
  I was very proud of myself.
• 26:09
  It wasn't nearly as boring as my gas guzzling NPG calculations the
• 26:13
  last time I started doing homework between drive thru episodes.
• 26:16
  Let's move on to our regularly scheduled ranting and raving.
• 26:21
  So this brings us into Volkswagen, Porsche, and Audi news.
• 26:24
  And last month, like I mentioned before, we spoke about the Mark 8.
• 26:28
  5 GTI.
• 26:29
  The rumor on the street is the GLI is coming back and it
• 26:33
  will be coming with a manual.
• 26:35
  We got to put might.
• 26:36
  And air quotes might come with a manual.
• 26:39
  You mean like the book that tells you how to do everything in the car, right?
• 26:42
  That type of thing.
• 26:42
  Yeah.
• 26:43
  Yeah.
• 26:43
  That's, that's the manual I was thinking of too.
• 26:45
  Yeah.
• 26:45
  Yeah.
• 26:45
  Do they even come with those anymore?
• 26:47
  Is it like a QR code that you could go online for?
• 26:49
  QR code in the glove box.
• 26:51
  Which is super convenient when you're stuck on the side of the road and
• 26:54
  your cell phone's dead and you're like, how do I change the tire?
• 26:57
  My wife's car, which is a 2022 still has the book.
• 27:00
  I think that's for that very reason that Eric just pointed out is why.
• 27:04
  Manufacturers still put the book.
• 27:05
  Now you may have to pay extra for it.
• 27:06
  I don't know if it comes with the vehicle.
• 27:08
  Don't give him any ideas.
• 27:09
  I read this as the next Passat is coming with a manual transmission
• 27:13
  because the Jetta's huge.
• 27:14
  Yeah.
• 27:15
  But again, who's buying Jettas?
• 27:16
  I don't really see them too much on the road except for the old ones.
• 27:19
  Like there's so many Mark V Jettas on the road.
• 27:22
  It's nuts.
• 27:23
  I don't see a lot of Volkswagen period.
• 27:25
  I don't see any Volkswagen.
• 27:27
  Since diesel gate, they've all disappeared.
• 27:29
  Yeah.
• 27:29
  I don't see anything older than mark seven down here.
• 27:32
  VW is in crisis though.
• 27:34
  You heard about this?
• 27:35
  3.
• 27:35
  8 percent drop in sales in China.
• 27:40
  Spells bad times for Volkswagen.
• 27:42
  Does it?
• 27:42
  I guess.
• 27:43
  I don't know what their sales volume is in that region.
• 27:45
  It was 3.
• 27:45
  8 percent higher last time.
• 27:49
  Whatever it was, it was 3.
• 27:50
  8 percent higher.
• 27:51
  We remember when we talked about how they let the guy that designed the ID
• 27:55
  buzz and all the fun stuff, they kind of kicked them to the curb and we were like,
• 27:59
  what in the heck is going on over there?
• 28:01
  Well.
• 28:02
  Volkswagen in response to the drop in sales and this and that because remember
• 28:06
  VW is outside of the GTI, you know, they're pushing hard this all EV stuff.
• 28:11
  So now they hired Andreas Mintz to come in and fix their crisis
• 28:16
  and they call it the ID crisis.
• 28:18
  And I was kind of digging into that going like, is this an identity crisis
• 28:21
  or does it have to do with all these?
• 28:23
  I D dot whatever's that they build in Europe that we never get, right?
• 28:27
  Because we only get the ID four and over there they have like the ID two
• 28:31
  and the ID three and the ID for GT and like all this other stuff that we've
• 28:36
  mentioned in previous episodes, you know, fun cars that we'll never get.
• 28:39
  When I read about he's the hero, he's going to revolutionize and the designs
• 28:44
  and this and that, I'm like, none of it matters to me because none of the cars
• 28:48
  he's working on are going to come here.
• 28:49
  VW is like the new General Motors.
• 28:52
  They are so lost.
• 28:53
  It's sad.
• 28:54
  Because their financials are so bad and everybody is woe is
• 28:58
  me over at Volkswagen and multi gajillion dollar company that it is.
• 29:02
  VW is taking away executives company Porsches to cut.
• 29:07
  Does anybody feel bad?
• 29:10
  So they don't get to drive around in Panamera.
• 29:11
  So they're going to give them a eight.
• 29:13
  Which are basically the same car, right?
• 29:14
  I mean, come on.
• 29:15
  I don't understand stuff like this.
• 29:17
  I mean, granted, we have stuff like this in the States, too, where it's
• 29:19
  like, Oh, you know, my 350 billion bonus this year, doo doo doo, they're
• 29:25
  gonna cut it down to 250 million.
• 29:27
  I don't know what I'm gonna do.
• 29:29
  You can buy your own car.
• 29:30
  Go cry me a river.
• 29:32
  The hell out.
• 29:32
  If a car manufacturer is giving somebody a company car, they should
• 29:36
  have to drive the shit they're trying to make everybody else buy.
• 29:39
  Thank you.
• 29:40
  A Toyota exec should be driving RAV4.
• 29:42
  Volkswagen exec should be driving a tour egg or, or whatever
• 29:46
  Tiguan Teon or a ta, whatever a.
• 29:50
  But I'll take a company car.
• 29:52
  Well, and I don't know how much this is drama llamas and hype and this and
• 29:56
  that, but then there's another article and this might be the most serious part.
• 29:59
  Volkswagen is looking to close its first plant ever in Europe.
• 30:05
  Shutting it down.
• 30:06
  It's one of the Audi assembly plants in Brussels.
• 30:09
  And I'm like, huh.
• 30:10
  So to me, that speaks volumes.
• 30:13
  It feels like that's the Holy grail, right?
• 30:15
  You're like, you're not going to mess with the EU.
• 30:17
  You'll shut down factories in the United States, move them to Mexico, or you'll
• 30:21
  build them in Brazil and all the, you know, the tactics that they've taken over
• 30:24
  the years, but here they're saying we're going to shut down a factory in the EU.
• 30:27
  So what does that mean?
• 30:29
  This says that they're closing their first EV factory.
• 30:31
  So this means that there may be a pivot.
• 30:34
  Pivot!
• 30:35
  We're pivoting!
• 30:35
  Pivot!
• 30:36
  From EVs back to gas.
• 30:39
  Yeah, it's something we've been preaching for the last, how many episodes?
• 30:42
  Yeah, but all the manufacturers have already come out and said that,
• 30:45
  but now they're reversing course.
• 30:47
  So, so this just comes on the heels of, yeah, okay, we're starting to
• 30:51
  change and the EV factory wasn't such a great idea in the first place.
• 30:56
  So now we're going to, what they should do is just turn it into
• 30:59
  something else, but maybe they don't have the money to do that.
• 31:02
  Yeah, but you know what?
• 31:03
  They do have the money for it.
• 31:05
  They're going to invest another 5 billion with a B into Rivian here.
• 31:09
  We are crying a river about, you know, taking away a company exec
• 31:13
  car, shutting down factories, but now you're investing more money into an EV.
• 31:17
  Build the Rivian in that Audi plant.
• 31:19
  I don't, yeah, I don't know.
• 31:21
  Like what is going on?
• 31:22
  Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
• 31:25
  These articles are speculative and they don't actually know what's going on.
• 31:29
  They haven't probably had a conversation with any of the executives at Volkswagen.
• 31:33
  So they're just throwing stuff up against the wall and seeing what
• 31:36
  sticks and there could be other factors going on here as to why they're doing
• 31:42
  these things that we'll never know.
• 31:43
  So I say, We need more context for sure and we make fun all the time of the
• 31:49
  Cybertruck having all these recalls and you know, there's teething problems with
• 31:53
  every new car, but maybe part of the cost problem that they're faced with
• 31:58
  is recalls in the Volkswagen family.
• 32:01
  One of those things that people don't realize is, Hey, I took my
• 32:03
  car in for the recall and I didn't have to pay anything to get it done.
• 32:06
  Well, there's a cost associated with that.
• 32:07
  All the technicians that have to do the work and the parts they have to replace
• 32:10
  and the stuff they have to redesign.
• 32:12
  You know, if they did find a flaw, there's a whole supply
• 32:14
  chain that goes along with that.
• 32:16
  But this next one could be a significant punch in the gut from a financial
• 32:22
  perspective when you have to recall 271, 000 atlases because there's a problem with
• 32:28
  the airbag system in the passenger seat.
• 32:31
  That isn't cheap.
• 32:32
  What it's saying is that it will not inflate.
• 32:35
  Well, at least it's not a problem with the airbag itself.
• 32:38
  It's a problem with sensors.
• 32:39
  So that might be an easier fix, not to say that that is no cost, but be a lot less
• 32:44
  costly than having to replace the actual airbags because those aren't inexpensive.
• 32:50
  Well, some happy news, something you can't buy for less than 50, 000.
• 32:55
  The new street legal.
• 32:56
  Porsche 935.
• 32:58
  So a British firm has found a way to make this basically track only
• 33:02
  hypercar past the UK, and you can now drive 935 on the street.
• 33:07
  I think it's cool, but I don't know that I would want to commute in that.
• 33:10
  Sign me up.
• 33:11
  Really effective at the grocery store.
• 33:13
  But you look hella cool going to the grocery store.
• 33:15
  How much mulch can you fit on the wing?
• 33:17
  Zero.
• 33:17
  I mean, if you're super rich, I guess that's cool.
• 33:21
  No, you just kind of look douchey.
• 33:24
  Speaking of, let's talk about our friends in Lower Saxony.
• 33:27
  So the 8th series, which I thought was already dead, apparently is dying a slow
• 33:33
  death by a thousand owners or something.
• 33:36
  BMW is reportedly bringing back the 6th series.
• 33:40
  They've gone in the right direction with the grills.
• 33:42
  And nothing else.
• 33:46
  If you look at the blue one that's further down in the article, that
• 33:49
  looks like it might actually be a real car, not a rendering, although
• 33:51
  these days it's really hard to tell the deep fakes from the real thing.
• 33:54
  I kind of like it.
• 33:55
  I think this might be the best looking 6 series yet.
• 33:58
  It does retain some of the design language from the bangle period, six
• 34:03
  series where, you know, it had that kind of bucktooth beaver front end,
• 34:06
  and it had that trunk that looks like they bolted her on as an afterthought.
• 34:09
  So it still retains some of those lines, but in a more mature, almost like.
• 34:15
  Two door five series sort of way in the same way they did
• 34:18
  the M four and the M threes.
• 34:20
  I feel like this new six series is like the two door five series.
• 34:24
  It's a Mercedes with a BMW grill and badge on it.
• 34:28
  Why'd you have to call me out?
• 34:29
  That's what it looks like, especially in profile.
• 34:32
  That's not a six series.
• 34:34
  No, the badge on the back right there says 850.
• 34:37
  I said the same thing.
• 34:38
  If you go through the pictures, it's a six 50.
• 34:41
  I zoom in full size on the six.
• 34:44
  Yeah, it's a six 50.
• 34:45
  That'd be the smallest eight series ever.
• 34:47
  Okay.
• 34:47
  Carry on.
• 34:48
  I'm sorry.
• 34:48
  I was just so confused.
• 34:50
  No, but what they do hint at in these pictures, and there's
• 34:53
  like 200 of them at one point.
• 34:55
  They flash an M badge.
• 34:57
  Now, I don't know if that's an M 650 I or if it's an M six, you know, how
• 35:02
  these days, if you want a proper M it has to have competition next to it.
• 35:06
  I think I would be excited to see what BMW does with this.
• 35:09
  If.
• 35:10
  They go in the direction of an M six, but as you get further along in the pictures,
• 35:15
  there's also a four door version.
• 35:17
  There's been a four door six series though.
• 35:19
  I thought the six series was always a two door.
• 35:21
  I mean, it was a two door back in the old days, like in the seventies and stuff.
• 35:24
  Although that was the whole point.
• 35:25
  Yeah.
• 35:25
  They've had four or six series since.
• 35:28
  It was like the 6 Series Grand Sport or whatever, it was kind of along
• 35:31
  the same lines of the Mercedes CLS or SL, whatever that four door coupe
• 35:37
  thing that they were trying to sell.
• 35:38
  Well, you know, I, I ignore those cars, so that's fine.
• 35:42
  In profile, the four door, Looks like every other Maserati four door and or Jag.
• 35:48
  So I'm not really impressed with it.
• 35:49
  I think it looks much better as a two door.
• 35:52
  Yeah.
• 35:52
  Yeah.
• 35:52
  But here's one you can't ignore.
• 35:54
  I want this headline to sink in for a moment.
• 35:56
  I want to get your guys reaction to this.
• 35:59
  McLaren could lean on BMW.
• 36:02
  To enter the SUV segment.
• 36:05
  Say what now?
• 36:06
  Why not?
• 36:07
  Ferrari has one.
• 36:08
  Lamborghini has one.
• 36:10
  Porsche has one.
• 36:11
  Bentley, do they have one?
• 36:13
  The Bentyaga.
• 36:14
  There you go.
• 36:15
  So why not?
• 36:16
  Is nothing sacred anymore?
• 36:18
  Ferrari has an SUV.
• 36:19
  I think we've passed the point of sacred.
• 36:22
  Where's the Lotus SUV?
• 36:23
  Yeah, there is a Lotus SUV, but McLaren doesn't need an SUV.
• 36:27
  Come on.
• 36:27
  Neither does Lamborghini or Ferrari.
• 36:31
  Or arguably Porsche, but it goes back to what we were talking about
• 36:34
  earlier, because what do people buy?
• 36:35
  They buy SUVs.
• 36:37
  They don't buy cars.
• 36:38
  They buy SUVs.
• 36:39
  And this is definitely not going to be 50, 000 bucks.
• 36:41
  Would you like to guess what the price tag of this alleged
• 36:44
  McLaren SUV is going to be though?
• 36:45
  Six figures, 150, 000.
• 36:47
  So, you know, our mythical 50, 000 budget number at a zero, 10 times the size,
• 36:54
  half a million dollars for a McLaren SUV.
• 36:57
  It better be the Lando Norris edition or something.
• 37:00
  I mean, for that kind of money, it looks like they're trying to do a low
• 37:03
  volume, special edition kind of thing.
• 37:06
  Rich people things edition.
• 37:07
  It's going to have zero resale value in the future.
• 37:10
  Can you imagine going to like pebble beach or going to like a broad arrow auction or
• 37:15
  any of these where it's like, and rolling across the lot now is a 2025 McLaren SUV.
• 37:21
  Let's start the bidding at a cool 750, 000.
• 37:25
  No, that's not going to happen.
• 37:26
  How many SLS AMGs can I buy for 500?
• 37:30
  Three or four.
• 37:31
  A lot.
• 37:31
  You can buy some busted ones to harvest for parts too.
• 37:38
  Cause that's what I'm buying instead.
• 37:41
  We'll switch gears here and talk a little bit about domestic cars.
• 37:44
  And like always, we'll start with Stilantis.
• 37:48
  So this isn't really a Stellantis thing so much as it is an awesome thing.
• 37:53
  There's a company out there, Vigilante 4x4s, that are throwing
• 37:57
  800 horsepower Elcat engines into old school Grand Wagoneers.
• 38:03
  And I'm here for all of it.
• 38:05
  It is awesome until you see the price.
• 38:07
  And how much is that?
• 38:08
  Pray tell.
• 38:09
  Almost as expensive as the McLaren SUV.
• 38:11
  If they put a McLaren badge on this, it would be right.
• 38:14
  Here's my problem with the world today.
• 38:15
  Where are people getting all this money to buy?
• 38:20
  400, 000 40 year old SUVs.
• 38:23
  And we talk about how the economy is weak and inflation and this and that,
• 38:27
  and the cost of everything's going up 385, 000 for a 1988 Grand Wagoneer.
• 38:35
  With a Hellcat engine swapped into it.
• 38:36
  I mean, granted, it's turnkey, it's ready to go.
• 38:39
  You didn't have to do any of the work.
• 38:40
  Rich people, celebrities are buying it and driving it once and then
• 38:44
  parking it somewhere where they don't remember, but their secretary knows.
• 38:49
  It's a tax write off.
• 38:50
  385, 000, that's somebody's home, depending on where you
• 38:54
  live, but that's somebody's home.
• 38:55
  But can you drive your home at 807 horsepower?
• 38:59
  Dodge would like you to believe that you could tow your house with
• 39:01
  807 horsepower, I'm just saying.
• 39:03
  You can sleep in your Jeep, but you can't drive your house.
• 39:08
  Here's the thing.
• 39:09
  It's, it's still a 40 year old truck.
• 39:12
  And it's awesome.
• 39:14
  I mean, I love these things.
• 39:15
  I think they're super cool.
• 39:16
  I thought about getting one of these, unfortunately, breaking bad.
• 39:20
  Made the price of these things jump significantly because that's what Walter
• 39:24
  White's wife drove was a Wagoneer and everybody went, Ooh, the Wagoneer.
• 39:28
  Cause they kind of forgotten about it.
• 39:29
  Right.
• 39:30
  And you couldn't touch one for like less than 40 grand and they were ratted out.
• 39:34
  And I'm like, come on.
• 39:35
  Is 385, 000 justifiable?
• 39:37
  No.
• 39:38
  Is it still a 40, 000 truck?
• 39:40
  Without the Hellcat engine?
• 39:41
  Yes.
• 39:42
  When you look at it, it's the Singer philosophy.
• 39:45
  They went through every inch of this vehicle and redid it.
• 39:49
  So I understand the painstaking work that went into building this truck.
• 39:53
  What I don't understand is who's going to Pay 385, 000.
• 39:58
  Robert Downey jr.
• 39:59
  Is going to pay 385, 000.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:02
  And then he's going to put a fucking electric motor in it.
• 40:03
  Yeah.
• 40:04
  Yeah.
• 40:04
  Yeah.
• 40:04
  We all saw that show too.
• 40:06
  Right.
• 40:06
  God.
• 40:07
  Well, tell me a little bit about the engineering.
• 40:11
  Architectural, structural, robustness of the 1988 Jeep to handle 807 horsepower.
• 40:19
  It's stronger than the Durango that that motor came from.
• 40:21
  So that thing's built like a brick shithouse.
• 40:24
  It's body on frame.
• 40:25
  They redid all of the suspension.
• 40:27
  They, it looks like they redid the frame.
• 40:29
  So they've bolstered the Jeep.
• 40:31
  And that's why I was saying they were doing like the Singer model, where
• 40:33
  they went through a Wagoneer and redid every single inch of this vehicle.
• 40:39
  Okay.
• 40:39
  Which is like brand new and they're using top of the line parts.
• 40:43
  It's, it's Fox shocks and stuff.
• 40:44
  I can understand how it costs so much, you know, given the labor.
• 40:48
  And to me, this thing's kind of a work of art.
• 40:51
  It's beautiful.
• 40:52
  I don't understand how people would Pay that for that, just like I don't
• 40:56
  understand how people would pay 500, 000 to a million dollars for a singer.
• 41:00
  I understand the vehicle itself.
• 41:02
  I think it's beautiful.
• 41:03
  It's a work of art and everything, but I just don't understand where
• 41:06
  all this money is coming from.
• 41:07
  I guess only only fans and YouTube and Instagram is that
• 41:10
  where all it's all coming from.
• 41:12
  It's people that are in a realm so far above us.
• 41:16
  I don't know, Michael Jordan goes and buys one of these or
• 41:19
  something and that's like 20.
• 41:21
  Yeah, but there's a lot of new money right now too.
• 41:23
  There's a lot of people like either they're in debt way into the stratosphere
• 41:27
  or there's just this glut of money out there that we don't have access to.
• 41:32
  From who?
• 41:33
  Everybody in the planet that keeps clicking on YouTube videos.
• 41:36
  Okay, so how about your working class person?
• 41:40
  They're not buying this.
• 41:42
  They're not affording this.
• 41:43
  Even one of these YouTube influencers is somebody not in our realm either.
• 41:48
  I don't even understand how any of that works, but You're right.
• 41:51
  That's why you're working a desk job and not out there influencing on YouTube.
• 41:56
  Exactly.
• 41:57
  I'm the idiot.
• 41:59
  Clearly.
• 41:59
  I think all that stuff's gonna come full circle eventually, too.
• 42:02
  That said, since we were talking about what you can buy for 50, 000
• 42:07
  or less that's new and exciting, and as I poked Brad about before,
• 42:12
  the 25s are right around the corner.
• 42:14
  How about the new Ford Capri?
• 42:16
  It looks like a Polestar from the back.
• 42:18
  Yeah, it does.
• 42:19
  Either a Polestar or even a Urus, a little bit.
• 42:22
  Expected to have a 400 mile range.
• 42:24
  It is an EV.
• 42:26
  It is an SUV.
• 42:27
  And I take issue with the name from the word go because the Capri
• 42:31
  again, is sort of sacred ground.
• 42:34
  If anybody remembers the old Capris from back in the day, and obviously
• 42:37
  that Capri swan song was shared with the Fox body Mustang in the
• 42:41
  early eighties and things like that.
• 42:42
  But the Capri was like the British Ford Mustang.
• 42:45
  Our dad owned a Capri.
• 42:47
  They were super cool.
• 42:48
  I know a bunch of people that had Capris.
• 42:49
  Every time I see one, I think they're awesome.
• 42:51
  You put a Capri and an old Escort together.
• 42:53
  I mean, they're just delicious little cars, right?
• 42:55
  You're like, Oh, that's awesome.
• 42:56
  That's what I want.
• 42:57
  The new Capri, much like the Hornet and some of the other sort of retro named cars
• 43:02
  has nothing to do with its predecessor.
• 43:04
  So I'm just going to ignore the name for now.
• 43:08
  No, no, no, no, no.
• 43:09
  We can't ignore the name yet.
• 43:11
  What?
• 43:11
  Why not?
• 43:12
  Because.
• 43:13
  They're saying Capri stands for Cool Athletic Past Meets Future.
• 43:19
  Wait, that's not even the right acronym.
• 43:21
  That's not how you spell Capri.
• 43:22
  I know, I'm confused.
• 43:24
  C dot A dot P dot R dot I equals Cool Athletic Past.
• 43:28
  I got that far.
• 43:29
  And then, Meets Future Rebellious to its core and boasts intelligent technology.
• 43:34
  Boom.
• 43:35
  R.
• 43:35
  I.
• 43:36
  That was developed by one of these YouTubers.
• 43:38
  That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
• 43:41
  Yeah, they spelled crappy wrong.
• 43:44
  Crappy.
• 43:45
  That's good.
• 43:46
  I like that.
• 43:46
  Can you imagine walking into the dealership?
• 43:48
  Yes, I'd like to order the new Ford Cool Athletic Pass Meets Future Occult
• 43:52
  Classic Rebellious to its core and boasts intelligent technology, please.
• 43:57
  Base model?
• 43:58
  Yes.
• 43:58
  In ceramic mandarin pearl.
• 44:02
  Yeah, can I get millennial greige?
• 44:03
  Millennial greige.
• 44:05
  To stick with the Mustang theme, this should have just been
• 44:07
  called the Mustang II Mach E.
• 44:10
  I could see that as well if we're gonna go down that path.
• 44:12
  You know what does sort of make it wah wah though, is Ford has partnered
• 44:16
  with Volkswagen to build this.
• 44:17
  Do you guys realize this is an ID.
• 44:19
  4 with a Ford badge on it?
• 44:21
  It's an ID.
• 44:22
  4 a Polestar from the back.
• 44:25
  Is that the new EV mullet?
• 44:26
  ID4 Pulsar in the back.
• 44:29
  It's a Pulsar in the back half and a VW from the front half.
• 44:33
  This thing is suffering from its cool athletic past meets future rebellious
• 44:37
  to its core boasting an intelligent technology cult classic identity crisis.
• 44:41
  Identity crisis.
• 44:42
  There you go.
• 44:43
  You know what that is in German?
• 44:44
  I believe the word is Farfignügen.
• 44:47
  I honestly don't think we're going to get these in the States.
• 44:50
  Could be wrong.
• 44:51
  We didn't think we were going to get the Hornet either because that's
• 44:53
  the Alfa Romeo Tonale, but that ended up showing up on our shores,
• 44:57
  so maybe we'll get the new Capri.
• 44:58
  But I think it suddenly jumps into that bucket of cars that
• 45:03
  we were talking about earlier.
• 45:04
  It's not going to be nearly as expensive as the Mach E, which
• 45:07
  is slowly creeped up in terms of price every year that's gone by.
• 45:11
  But we'll see, I mean, it's really interesting also for them to be touting
• 45:15
  yet another all electric car when we're seeing the market soften on electric
• 45:19
  cars, we hit that like, you know, seven or 8 percent saturation it's plateaued.
• 45:24
  People are going back to gas.
• 45:25
  Manufacturers are going back to gas.
• 45:27
  People are still not convinced, you know, hybrid is the future.
• 45:29
  As we've been saying since like day one because of infrastructure
• 45:32
  and a million other things.
• 45:33
  So curious to see where this goes when the EcoBoost version of the Capri
• 45:38
  comes out, you have my attention.
• 45:40
  Last month we spoke about the Maverick, and how they're growing that
• 45:43
  offering, and I made a joke about the Ranger, which I guess the gods of the
• 45:47
  internet were listening on my phone or otherwise, but it popped up in my feed.
• 45:51
  Did you know that there's a Super Duty version of the Ranger?
• 45:54
  Nope.
• 45:55
  Not yet, but they filed a trademark for it.
• 45:57
  I think there's a lot of Duty, not a lot of Super in this.
• 46:01
  Yeah, okay.
• 46:02
  It's sort of like a T Rex, right?
• 46:03
  It's like, I've been scaring my wait, it has tiny little arms.
• 46:07
  It can only bite me.
• 46:08
  I think the Ranger should just go away.
• 46:10
  I don't get it.
• 46:11
  The mistake is the four cylinder EcoBoost.
• 46:13
  And I know it's a nod to the old Rangers being four cylinders, blah, blah, blah.
• 46:17
  But the cool Rangers were the ones where they swapped the Fox body
• 46:20
  motor into them, you know, big old 5.
• 46:21
  0.
• 46:22
  I thought the Ranger should have been a six cylinder, even if it was normally
• 46:24
  aspirated, like the old six cylinder Mustang engine would have been better for
• 46:28
  it, because it's just such a big truck.
• 46:30
  In comparison to what it used to be, you know what I mean?
• 46:32
  I'm like, whatever.
• 46:34
  We haven't talked about Ford at Pikes Peak in a while, not since that super
• 46:37
  fast, 2000 horsepower transit van.
• 46:40
  Oh, but to be outdone with the audacious looking.
• 46:45
  Awesome.
• 46:46
  F 115 lightning super truck with quite the wang.
• 46:50
  It's a wang.
• 46:51
  It's a we gotta get right to wang.
• 46:53
  Quite the everything arrow on this thing.
• 46:55
  This thing is awesome!
• 46:57
  It is.
• 46:58
  You need to just slap Hoonigan on the side.
• 47:00
  It's right there, dude.
• 47:01
  And the best part is they've cut so much off of it, it doesn't
• 47:04
  even look like a truck anymore.
• 47:05
  6, 000 pounds of downforce.
• 47:08
  The Viper only generates 4, 000 pounds of downforce, so that's pretty good.
• 47:12
  This is an F 150, like a NASCAR is a Camry.
• 47:16
  Yes.
• 47:17
  That's the only similarity is that.
• 47:18
  Yeah, there's no relation to the actual F 150 Lightning.
• 47:22
  No, this is a tube frame.
• 47:22
  I mean, look at the back.
• 47:23
  This is not an F 150.
• 47:24
  No, it doesn't have to be an F 150.
• 47:26
  This is awesome.
• 47:28
  It is awesome.
• 47:28
  Yeah.
• 47:29
  But to call it an F 150 is, it's not enough.
• 47:31
  I want to know how it did it.
• 47:32
  Pike speak though.
• 47:32
  I didn't find any results yet.
• 47:34
  Cause I think they already ran.
• 47:35
  Yeah, they did at the end of June, but I didn't see any results like,
• 47:38
  Oh, Ford captures the title with the F 150 lightning super truck.
• 47:42
  I didn't hear anything.
• 47:43
  Maybe it crashed.
• 47:44
  Super cool though.
• 47:45
  I love seeing stuff like this.
• 47:47
  I think this is awesome.
• 47:48
  And I think Ford needs to keep it up.
• 47:50
  That wing is ridiculous though.
• 47:51
  Wang.
• 47:52
  So moving on to Japanese and Asian domestic car news,
• 47:57
  I got thrown for a loop.
• 47:58
  We all have streaming packages that we paid extra for to not have commercials.
• 48:02
  We all seem to have commercials.
• 48:03
  I saw the latest one from Mazda.
• 48:05
  And did you know that the Mazda CX 90, which is the big SUV has an inline six.
• 48:10
  Did you notice there were no Mazdas on your, what should I buy list?
• 48:15
  I wonder why I thought that was interesting, right?
• 48:18
  Because if you think of inline sixes.
• 48:20
  If you're an enthusiast, your brain goes, Oh, 2JZ super.
• 48:26
  Or BMW, where did Mazda get an inline six?
• 48:29
  I'm not trying to throw shade at them, but I'm really curious.
• 48:33
  So the video I posted is not the commercial.
• 48:36
  It's more of an in depth video about the engine and how they designed it and
• 48:41
  how they designed the car around it.
• 48:43
  Why it's so important as a nerd, I found it super fascinating.
• 48:48
  So I'm really curious.
• 48:49
  To see what happens with this new engine that Mazda has come to the table with.
• 48:54
  Except they're also coming back to the table with another rotary.
• 48:57
  That's the second mistake they're making.
• 49:00
  I don't think the inline six is a mistake.
• 49:02
  I think it's kind of cool.
• 49:02
  Mercedes came out with a new inline six not too long ago as well, I thought.
• 49:06
  The first mistake is coming out with another SUV and not a new Miata.
• 49:10
  Could you imagine an inline six in a Miata?
• 49:12
  Dude, that'd be sick.
• 49:13
  That would be awesome.
• 49:14
  Or a turbo from the factory.
• 49:16
  We haven't had that since the NBs, the Mazda speed Miatas.
• 49:19
  Dude, it's time for a new Miata.
• 49:21
  Like, I hate to say, if we had an NE Miata, like the fifth generation,
• 49:25
  it needs to be bigger than the ND.
• 49:27
  I know so many people love the ND, Great.
• 49:30
  I like the NC.
• 49:32
  It's comfortable.
• 49:33
  The NC needed a two and a half liter, which is the common swap that
• 49:36
  everybody does from like the Fusion and all that, or a Turbo or whatever.
• 49:40
  I think we need a fifth generation Miata, not another
• 49:43
  SUV that nobody's going to buy.
• 49:44
  Because an SUV this big, a full size, if you're looking at it as like a
• 49:48
  status item, I kind of feel like you're wasting your money, right?
• 49:51
  You're going to buy a BMW X5, or you're going to buy a GL, or
• 49:55
  you're going to buy something else.
• 49:56
  You're not going to buy this.
• 49:58
  When you're going to spend 65, 000 or more on an SUV, Mazda is not
• 50:03
  the first dealership you go to.
• 50:05
  This should be an inline six rotor.
• 50:07
  Dude, that'd be like 787B territory, right?
• 50:10
  It'd be crazy.
• 50:11
  Yeah, that would be awesome.
• 50:12
  Meanwhile, Subaru would like to welcome everyone to 1999 because
• 50:17
  you can get a CD player in your WRX.
• 50:20
  Oh, stupid.
• 50:21
  Why?
• 50:22
  Here's the best part.
• 50:23
  It's 375 to 450 extra plus installation.
• 50:28
  And the comment is, but that's not a lot of money given that adding
• 50:31
  the CD player later could be too costly or complicated to be worth it.
• 50:36
  Let's take a pause here.
• 50:38
  Let's skip like the old CD players.
• 50:40
  I can go to Best Buy.
• 50:42
  They still make them.
• 50:43
  Portable CD player for as low as 24.
• 50:45
  99.
• 50:47
  I can get an aux cable, plug that Mitch in, stick it in the glove box, keep going.
• 50:51
  Guess what?
• 50:52
  A lot less than 3.
• 50:55
  When was the last time you bought a CD?
• 50:57
  Yeah, right.
• 50:59
  Tapes were great in the car because they didn't really care
• 51:04
  about the bumps in the road.
• 51:06
  The suspensions of the old cars aren't nearly as nice as the ones we have today.
• 51:09
  But CDs were like the worst media for cars.
• 51:12
  You hit a Marlboro cigarette butt and it was like, And then
• 51:17
  they start jumping around.
• 51:19
  All this shit would happen and you're like, Ah, this is horrible.
• 51:21
  It's like trying to have a record player in your car.
• 51:24
  No.
• 51:24
  Oh my God.
• 51:25
  Could you,
• 51:27
  we're going to vinyl.
• 51:29
  I'm just envisioning someone with a cyber truck and in the passenger seat,
• 51:33
  they've got their record player hooked up to the stereo and he's got the
• 51:37
  drive itself system on or whatever.
• 51:39
  And he's over there like trying to make sure the needle
• 51:41
  doesn't skip and scratches.
• 51:43
  Cause you know, vinyl has that high fidelity.
• 51:46
  It's got a much better sound.
• 51:48
  That digital I've listened to a lot of vinyl and a lot of digital, and
• 51:51
  I can't fucking tell the difference.
• 51:53
  All I hear is the crackling and the popping and the snap crackle
• 51:56
  pop, which is what we spent an eternity trying to get rid of.
• 51:59
  And now we're going back to this, turning the page a little bit.
• 52:04
  Toyota, as we mentioned, might be getting rid of the Supra.
• 52:08
  But they've teased the return of the Celica.
• 52:12
  Celica.
• 52:13
  The Brits like to call it the Celica.
• 52:15
  That's what Jeremy Clarkson used to always say.
• 52:17
  So the Celica might be coming back.
• 52:19
  I don't hate that in concept.
• 52:21
  Right?
• 52:22
  It's admittedly Maybe it's growing on me.
• 52:26
  It's more Supra than the current Supra.
• 52:28
  That's the problem.
• 52:29
  It's not Celica enough.
• 52:30
  It's got to be front wheel drive with an anemic four cylinder
• 52:34
  that looks like a Roach.
• 52:35
  They had all wheel drive Celicas, so we could be all wheel drive.
• 52:37
  That's acceptable.
• 52:38
  The last Celica was like the Toyota Paseo, and they stretched it
• 52:42
  out, and they called it a Celica.
• 52:44
  The front, it's not right.
• 52:45
  It's not right.
• 52:46
  I like it.
• 52:47
  The front looks like the Lexus race cars.
• 52:49
  That's what that looks like to me.
• 52:50
  It's too sharp.
• 52:51
  I like it though.
• 52:52
  It's very Transformers.
• 52:54
  I like it a lot.
• 52:54
  If that had a super badge and you told me that was the next
• 52:57
  Gen sra, I'm all about it.
• 52:58
  'cause I'm like, at least it doesn't look like a BMW.
• 53:01
  The last sica there was like the mousy one.
• 53:04
  Yes.
• 53:05
  The stretch EO sure was.
• 53:07
  I don't know remember what a EO looks like.
• 53:09
  I mean, I, I see where the design line or there, especially with the headlights.
• 53:13
  'cause that last Sica had the headlights that kind of triangled up.
• 53:17
  So it's sharing that the gor is obviously completely wrong.
• 53:19
  Very Lexus.
• 53:20
  But the Celica that I want it to look like is the older one with the
• 53:25
  round lights, the four track, which came as all wheel drive, because
• 53:28
  that was like the rally version.
• 53:30
  You're talking about with the pop up headlights.
• 53:31
  There's that one too.
• 53:32
  I wouldn't mind it looking more like that, but like the mid nineties Celica.
• 53:36
  You could get the four wheel drive version of it.
• 53:39
  Now it would also be cool with this design.
• 53:41
  If this never went anywhere, if we take that Toyota badge off and
• 53:45
  we put a Nissan badge on it, Tell me it doesn't look like the Z.
• 53:49
  Yeah, like you melded a 370 and a GTR together.
• 53:52
  I really like this rendering or otherwise.
• 53:54
  I think this is really, really cool.
• 53:57
  Well, that's my problem with it.
• 53:58
  It's like I'm having a crisis with the name with the car because the car
• 54:04
  is not even like horrible looking.
• 54:06
  It's like growing on me, but it's like, does not compute.
• 54:10
  It's not a Celica.
• 54:11
  It looks like something else, but it's not.
• 54:16
  Well, let's move on to random EVs and new concept cars.
• 54:21
  And we're not going to talk about anything new.
• 54:23
  And we're not going to talk on anything conceptual.
• 54:25
  What are we going to talk about here?
• 54:27
  Chevy Volts.
• 54:27
  People are saying they're coming back around on the Chevy Volt.
• 54:30
  They're saying it was ahead of its time.
• 54:33
  Was it now?
• 54:34
  Well, because plug in hybrid is the way to go.
• 54:36
  And now automakers are just catching up to where the Volt was.
• 54:40
  I heard the same story about the Aztec too.
• 54:42
  Yeah, because even a broken clock is right twice a day.
• 54:45
  Woo!
• 54:46
  We'll move on.
• 54:47
  So Brad, it's time for your favorite section, Lost and Found, where we're not
• 54:51
  going to look for anything on dealer lots.
• 54:53
  We're going to talk about really interesting stuff you can buy
• 54:56
  for any sorts amounts of money.
• 54:58
  So how about this?
• 54:59
  We talk about how bad the stainless steel is on the Cybertruck, how you
• 55:03
  gotta keep it clean, you gotta watch out for bird poop and all sorts of things.
• 55:06
  What about a Cybertruck that's been polished to within an inch of its life?
• 55:10
  Pretty cool.
• 55:10
  Whoever did this, mirror like finish.
• 55:14
  Yeah.
• 55:14
  It's almost camouflage when you look at it.
• 55:16
  It's a very wraith, stealth, Knight Rider.
• 55:19
  Is it worth 150, 000?
• 55:20
  Is it worth an extra 50, 000?
• 55:23
  No.
• 55:23
  How dirty does that get?
• 55:25
  I don't even know what to say.
• 55:27
  But that is how people are dealing with these Cybertrucks.
• 55:30
  Hate them.
• 55:30
  Raps.
• 55:31
  I have seen some black ones, because I guess they're wrapped
• 55:34
  or whatever, and they do look like the Wraith at that point.
• 55:37
  They're pretty creepy going down the road.
• 55:38
  Yeah.
• 55:39
  I don't think the Cybertruck looks good in any color.
• 55:42
  We can paint it blue, I mean, we can paint it yellow, orange, you know, these
• 55:45
  M& M colors that exist on, let's say, the Mopars and the Fords and stuff.
• 55:49
  There's no way.
• 55:50
  The body shape, it just doesn't work.
• 55:52
  It is cool, it's different.
• 55:54
  I mean, it is hyper polished, it looks like a mirror.
• 55:57
  I don't know that I would want that either.
• 55:59
  Nope.
• 56:00
  Texas size, hard pass.
• 56:02
  That actually segues us right into Teslagate, so we would be remiss
• 56:06
  if we didn't talk about Tesla.
• 56:10
  Oh boy, woe is them.
• 56:13
  Their sales are down.
• 56:14
  It's a significant number!
• 56:18
  I was listening to not popular radio, I mean NPR.
• 56:21
  And their finance reporting was saying 45 percent decrease in
• 56:25
  fictitious sales last quarter.
• 56:27
  So this is the second quarter in a row where Tesla is
• 56:30
  just sort of on the decline.
• 56:32
  That means it's probably a 75 percent decrease in actual math.
• 56:37
  I don't think their percent of sales fell 45 percent because they still are
• 56:42
  considered the largest share of EVs, their percentage of sales did decrease, but
• 56:49
  then arguably like everyone's has, right?
• 56:52
  This says their market share.
• 56:53
  If they're diluted, then that would only mean that that's because there's
• 56:57
  more people bringing EVs in, right?
• 56:59
  So it's like their numbers are the same, but their overall
• 57:03
  percentage goes down because there's people in the market, right?
• 57:06
  So, I mean.
• 57:07
  Are they having a problem?
• 57:08
  It's called competition.
• 57:09
  Well, it is.
• 57:10
  And it's BYD.
• 57:11
  It's the Chinese coming in and building a better product for less.
• 57:14
  Well, better.
• 57:15
  Well, you know, I'm trying to be nice.
• 57:17
  The bar's not high.
• 57:19
  They did have some quotes from our favorite friend, Elon.
• 57:22
  And you know, some of the things he was saying, he's still promising the
• 57:25
  self driving taxi and the cheaper model two or whatever they're calling it.
• 57:29
  Calling the, you know, the cheaper model three or whatever it is
• 57:32
  that they're going to put out.
• 57:32
  And it's all stuff that we've heard before.
• 57:35
  So at this point, I'm like, it's the boy who cried wolf.
• 57:38
  How many more times are you going to say that this is coming or that's coming?
• 57:40
  I was waiting for him to say, and when the Tesla roadster
• 57:43
  come, you know, like, come on.
• 57:45
  I don't believe it as far as I can throw it at this point.
• 57:47
  The Cybertruck has to be eating into them big time.
• 57:50
  It's the best selling electric pickup truck in the U.
• 57:53
  S.
• 57:53
  That's what I heard too.
• 57:55
  Is that some sort of new math?
• 57:57
  Considering how many electric pickup trucks there are to
• 58:00
  choose from, there's like three.
• 58:03
  And what does that mean?
• 58:04
  They produce them?
• 58:05
  That's selling!
• 58:06
  Everybody put a deposit down.
• 58:07
  Does that mean they sell?
• 58:08
  We're sold.
• 58:09
  I don't know.
• 58:10
  It should not.
• 58:11
  It's the estimated sales numbers.
• 58:13
  Well, maybe it is estimated sales number.
• 58:15
  I don't know because they also mentioned delivery number and
• 58:19
  we're well, what does that mean?
• 58:20
  Is it actual deliveries to person or to the Tesla parking
• 58:24
  lot where they're all parks?
• 58:25
  We've seen those pictures too.
• 58:27
  So Lotus does something like that where it's like orders.
• 58:30
  Received and then deliveries accomplished.
• 58:33
  And so it's when the consumer actually receives their
• 58:37
  vehicle, that's the delivery.
• 58:38
  We don't know what their definition is.
• 58:40
  No, because as we alluded to, when Brad's been shopping for his cyber
• 58:43
  truck, they could generate a VIN, like they generate a software key.
• 58:46
  So the thing's not even built yet.
• 58:48
  Yeah.
• 58:48
  I mean, I don't know.
• 58:49
  But what I do know is you can get DLC for your Cybertruck now.
• 58:53
  Downloadable content?
• 58:56
  What I mean by that is now we have add ons like the 300 tailgate
• 59:00
  cover and the jump seats and other things like that to accessorize.
• 59:05
  Do we really think the tailgate's strong enough for somebody to sit on?
• 59:09
  No.
• 59:09
  When the trim pieces Are flying off.
• 59:11
  No.
• 59:14
  And what's wrong with just sitting on your tailgate?
• 59:16
  Why does it need seats and a cover?
• 59:18
  I could see how bougie it would be to have like a seat when you're sitting
• 59:23
  there and kind of like recline, which you could also just go by like a beach chair.
• 59:27
  That's the super low, just sit on your tailgate.
• 59:29
  But there are other, I remember it's Ford or Chevy or GM or who it is.
• 59:34
  There is someone whose tailgates Are going to have like butt shape.
• 59:39
  So that's not new.
• 59:41
  That's not new.
• 59:41
  The Aztec had those.
• 59:42
  And I knew you were going to bring the Aztec tech.
• 59:47
  Well, they're bringing it back on some of the new models.
• 59:49
  Now it was also ahead of its time.
• 59:51
  Like the Chevy Volt.
• 59:52
  It's great to be ahead of your time, but always behind yesterday's technology.
• 59:56
  Tomorrow.
• 59:57
  That's GM's motto!
• 1:00:03
  Oh my god.
• 1:00:04
  Welcome back to 8 Track.
• 1:00:07
  The CD player is coming back in the car because that's really good.
• 1:00:10
  But you know what's ironically cool?
• 1:00:12
  Tesla Autopilot.
• 1:00:13
  Yeah!
• 1:00:14
  Did you see this latest one?
• 1:00:16
  I did.
• 1:00:16
  I thought they weren't supposed to call it that.
• 1:00:18
  I thought we covered this as a Florida person last time.
• 1:00:21
  Is that a Model Y?
• 1:00:22
  It looks like a Model Y.
• 1:00:23
  They all look the same from a distance, but yes.
• 1:00:25
  The headline reads Tesla autopilot mistakes train tracks for road and then
• 1:00:30
  the driver didn't immediately notice.
• 1:00:32
  Well, here's the thing.
• 1:00:34
  What kind of a hole are you?
• 1:00:36
  And maybe it's the angle of the picture and there was actually a road that crossed
• 1:00:39
  the train tracks, but I'm thinking not.
• 1:00:42
  Actually, because there's a sign that would indicate that
• 1:00:44
  there's no road going there.
• 1:00:46
  There's a T intersection.
• 1:00:47
  You let the car leave asphalt, onto gravel, down a ditch, up the ditch,
• 1:00:54
  onto the railroad tracks, turn and line yourself up with the tracks, and then go
• 1:00:59
  like, however many feet down the road.
• 1:01:01
  At what point Did you think something's not right here?
• 1:01:05
  It's when the melatonin gummies wore off and they came out of their deep sleep.
• 1:01:10
  Don't you mean the weed gummies?
• 1:01:11
  Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  I also question who took this photo?
• 1:01:16
  So that makes me wonder if it was staged.
• 1:01:18
  You can't trust anything anymore.
• 1:01:20
  Today.
• 1:01:20
  I'm also like, is this real?
• 1:01:22
  Or did some asshole be like, hold my beer, I'm gonna drive
• 1:01:24
  down the tracks on my Tesla.
• 1:01:26
  No, the photo was posted by the police department.
• 1:01:29
  So they probably took it for evidence.
• 1:01:31
  Oh, that's where the Tesla died.
• 1:01:33
  It was like a crime scene photo.
• 1:01:35
  That's what that is.
• 1:01:36
  Cause the suspension fell apart from riding down the railroad tracks.
• 1:01:39
  Oh, well, I mean, honestly, was it trying to use the third rail to charge?
• 1:01:44
  This little like R2D2 arm comes out and it's just trying
• 1:01:47
  to charge off the third rail.
• 1:01:48
  It mistook it for its mother.
• 1:01:51
  Are you my mother?
• 1:01:53
  Oh gosh.
• 1:01:54
  All right.
• 1:01:55
  So next up in Tesla buffoonery, we have problems with unintended acceleration.
• 1:02:01
  Oh God.
• 1:02:02
  Tesla Cybertruck.
• 1:02:03
  The accelerator may or may not disengage when the brake is depressed.
• 1:02:09
  What does the brake have to do with it?
• 1:02:10
  If I let my foot off the accelerator pedal, shouldn't it disengage?
• 1:02:15
  It's all digital.
• 1:02:16
  The ones and zeros are still flowing.
• 1:02:18
  But I don't rely on my brake pedal.
• 1:02:21
  To disengage my accelerator pedal.
• 1:02:24
  You do when it's a Thrustmaster pedal box that you're working with.
• 1:02:29
  Like, I feel like they're blaming the brake pedal, but there's more here.
• 1:02:33
  Like, the problem isn't the brake pedal.
• 1:02:34
  I blame the meat behind the steering wheel.
• 1:02:37
  On the same token, this is basic stuff, right?
• 1:02:40
  If it's an electronic software problem, it doesn't matter the meat behind the
• 1:02:44
  wheel, because it's not your fault.
• 1:02:46
  If you input and there's no output Again, this is why our insurance
• 1:02:52
  rates are going through the roof too.
• 1:02:53
  Which is probably why, though, cars at some point, and I don't know if
• 1:02:56
  it's standard on all of them, but like in the Volkswagens of a certain era,
• 1:03:00
  you stop being able to accelerate and essentially left foot brake for more than
• 1:03:05
  approximately literally three seconds because then it cuts the acceleration off.
• 1:03:09
  which was probably a safety reason, I would assume, so that some a
• 1:03:13
  hole didn't just keep pushing the accelerator down while they're trying
• 1:03:16
  to stop and then keep going forward.
• 1:03:17
  So the fact that this doesn't have a feature like that or that
• 1:03:21
  feature also broke because it's all electronically controlled.
• 1:03:24
  Because if the gas pedal did fail to disengage electronically, then there
• 1:03:30
  should have been another code written that said brake pedal engaged, no
• 1:03:33
  matter what's happening, cut off.
• 1:03:35
  I guess it's using the accelerator for the all wheel drive system, kind
• 1:03:39
  of as their I guess they're limited slip and traction control and stuff.
• 1:03:43
  Cause a Tesla representative said, we have reviewed logs and due
• 1:03:47
  to the terrain, the terrain, he said a freaking parking lot, the
• 1:03:53
  driveway he'd slammed into his house.
• 1:03:55
  It may have been a gravel drive in which he needed to activate you
• 1:04:00
  seeing a different article than I am?
• 1:04:01
  I can literally see painted lines on asphalt.
• 1:04:04
  They're reviewing why the back tire is locked.
• 1:04:07
  The accelerator may or may not disengage traction control.
• 1:04:13
  I mean, I'm assuming he's in it.
• 1:04:14
  It looks like he's like in his driveway.
• 1:04:16
  I don't know.
• 1:04:16
  Maybe this is like later he brought the car home.
• 1:04:18
  After he like hit a pole somewhere.
• 1:04:20
  No, I'm, I'm further down.
• 1:04:22
  There's another X post on Elon Musk's other business venture.
• 1:04:27
  In surveillance footage, the impractical pickup darted up a hill
• 1:04:30
  into a neighbor's house with the rear wheels completely locked up.
• 1:04:34
  The owner stated that the throttle and steering were unresponsive as he
• 1:04:37
  held the brake pedal to the floor.
• 1:04:39
  You can see the video of the truck going up the hill.
• 1:04:42
  He put down.
• 1:04:43
  50 foot long skin marks.
• 1:04:48
  Guys try to build 900 horsepower motors to do burnouts that long.
• 1:04:52
  Just saying all you need is a cyber truck.
• 1:04:54
  Now, all you need to do is lock your rear wheels.
• 1:04:56
  Remember when you guys made fun of me?
• 1:04:58
  And I said it was rushed to production and you're ha ha ha ha No, we didn't.
• 1:05:03
  I don't think we ever did that.
• 1:05:04
  I don't think we ever said that.
• 1:05:06
  Oh, yeah, you did.
• 1:05:07
  No, I don't think so.
• 1:05:08
  This thing was rushed to production.
• 1:05:10
  I'm just saying.
• 1:05:11
  But I think we used to say if this thing ever makes it
• 1:05:13
  to production, it's too soon.
• 1:05:14
  Just saying.
• 1:05:15
  There's so many problems with this thing.
• 1:05:17
  Ugh.
• 1:05:17
  When are they going to blame the tires or the input delay on the steering?
• 1:05:21
  The more we talk about the Cybertruck and Tesla and everything
• 1:05:24
  else, we're giving them free publicity as you like to mention.
• 1:05:27
  Has Elon gonna respond to this next one?
• 1:05:30
  Probably like a petulant child.
• 1:05:32
  Oh, the vandalism on the cyber trucks.
• 1:05:35
  I recall this now.
• 1:05:36
  Yes, they wrote duck, but with an f Elon on the hood of multiple ones.
• 1:05:41
  Wonder how that above outta stainless Tesla fans are saying they should sell
• 1:05:44
  the trucks as is is a limited edition.
• 1:05:46
  You know what?
• 1:05:47
  I could see him being like, I'll sign it
• 1:05:53
  How many of them did they do this to?
• 1:05:54
  It's a lot of them, isn't it?
• 1:05:56
  It says dozens.
• 1:05:57
  Well, inside of this article, they're talking about how they want to
• 1:06:00
  produce 2, 500 Cybertrucks a week.
• 1:06:02
  Who's buying these?
• 1:06:03
  Here's where I ask the question.
• 1:06:06
  Who's buying these?
• 1:06:07
  Who has the money?
• 1:06:08
  I don't know.
• 1:06:08
  He wants to put 150, 000 of them on the road by next year.
• 1:06:12
  There's 10, 000 YouTubers a month.
• 1:06:14
  They're gonna go buy it.
• 1:06:16
  No, I don't think so because these people don't drive, these YouTuber influencers.
• 1:06:20
  If you think about it, I think the recalls are always interesting
• 1:06:24
  because it gives you more real life numbers as to cars that are out there.
• 1:06:28
  So for instance, we talked about the Atlas, 271, 000
• 1:06:31
  cars that they have to fix.
• 1:06:32
  In the beginning, we mentioned the wiper recall for the Cybertruck.
• 1:06:35
  So realistically, 11, 000 trucks need to be fixed.
• 1:06:39
  So let's just say, This thing's been out since when, Brad?
• 1:06:42
  The beginning of the year?
• 1:06:43
  Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  So we're seven, eight months in now, and they've only really sold 10, 000 vehicles,
• 1:06:48
  or there's 10, 000 vehicles on the road.
• 1:06:50
  That's not great.
• 1:06:51
  I don't know how they're going to get to 150, 000 units by January.
• 1:06:55
  They're going to be sitting around on lots, knocking birds out of
• 1:06:58
  the sky because of the reflection.
• 1:07:00
  And a loss for words.
• 1:07:01
  Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  Normally at this point, I would say my expectations are thoroughly lowered, but
• 1:07:06
  I've been starting to think about it.
• 1:07:08
  Maybe we should rename it to, well, That's unfortunate.
• 1:07:12
  Right, Tanya?
• 1:07:13
  Apparently Goodwood was not so good for this Lotus.
• 1:07:18
  Did you see the video?
• 1:07:19
  I'm watching it right now on loop and I think we all know who
• 1:07:23
  we think is driving this car.
• 1:07:28
  And who's that?
• 1:07:28
  We can't say it on the air because I don't want to upset anybody.
• 1:07:33
  2, 000 horsepower Lotus Evija didn't even make it.
• 1:07:36
  Four car lengths at best.
• 1:07:38
  And binned it.
• 1:07:40
  They did real bad, but it did a smoky burnout.
• 1:07:43
  I mean, it was an epic burnout, but here we go again.
• 1:07:47
  And they claim that it's this electric stuff, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:07:50
  It broke loose.
• 1:07:51
  One wheel gets away from the other one and then you can't control it.
• 1:07:54
  And it's just a nightmare.
• 1:07:55
  And what's wrong with a proper transmission.
• 1:07:58
  Why is it not all wheel drive?
• 1:08:00
  Yeah, when you're making 2, 000 horsepower to put it through the rear
• 1:08:02
  wheels, that seems kind of nuts to me.
• 1:08:04
  They should call Koenigsegg and ask him how they make their cars.
• 1:08:06
  Yeah, right?
• 1:08:07
  I'm sure Christian would be happy to share the secret.
• 1:08:09
  Yeah, for billions of dollars.
• 1:08:11
  We don't tell poop jokes too often on this.
• 1:08:15
  I think we told one earlier about the Ford Ranger Super Duty.
• 1:08:18
  And the crappy.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  Yeah.
• 1:08:21
  And the new Ford crappy EV.
• 1:08:23
  Oh yeah.
• 1:08:23
  Yeah.
• 1:08:23
  You got me there.
• 1:08:24
  I guess this is the hat trick then, because did you know the GM basically
• 1:08:29
  created a mobile incinerator?
• 1:08:30
  No, I never knew that.
• 1:08:32
  I went somewhere dark and twisted with this.
• 1:08:36
  This is like the RV that was in the movie Stripes.
• 1:08:39
  I mean, these GM motorhomes were around forever.
• 1:08:42
  They're kind of cool.
• 1:08:43
  Six wheel, the whole nine yards.
• 1:08:44
  But if you look into this groundbreaking technology that they created, basically
• 1:08:50
  every time you took a number two, it went out the tailpipe through this
• 1:08:54
  complicated system where you use the heat from the catalytic converters to
• 1:08:58
  basically incinerate your excrement.
• 1:09:00
  While you were going down the highway.
• 1:09:02
  Definitely not the, uh, French fry smell that you get from the biofuel.
• 1:09:06
  I'm intrigued.
• 1:09:08
  It gives a new meaning to biodiesel.
• 1:09:11
  A whole new type of smoke screening.
• 1:09:13
  It might even be better.
• 1:09:18
  Can you imagine though?
• 1:09:19
  You're like a mile behind this guy.
• 1:09:21
  You're going up a mountain road and you turn to your kids.
• 1:09:23
  You're like, Did you fart?
• 1:09:25
  What is that smell?
• 1:09:27
  There's farms?
• 1:09:28
  And you're looking around and there's no farms.
• 1:09:30
  I mean, you know, the typical road tripping story.
• 1:09:32
  Nope.
• 1:09:33
  Some guy in his GM RV going uphill, burning his poop.
• 1:09:36
  So if you like floored it, I guess it would incinerate it faster.
• 1:09:41
  So you want to drive real slow then, I guess.
• 1:09:42
  You want to cool the exhaust.
• 1:09:43
  No, no, no, no.
• 1:09:45
  Because this thing is so big and heavy, once it exceeds 30 miles
• 1:09:48
  an hour, the exhaust temperatures are already above 900 degrees.
• 1:09:52
  So they were like, we'll just put the poop down the chute, burn it.
• 1:09:56
  Done!
• 1:09:57
  So you don't even have to be going that fast.
• 1:09:58
  So it's 70 mile an hour.
• 1:10:00
  I feel like this is genius, right?
• 1:10:03
  Because what are you people with your diesel trucks doing now?
• 1:10:07
  You're buying deer piss to put into yours to do the exact same thing.
• 1:10:11
  Are you not more or less?
• 1:10:12
  Yeah, that's what death is.
• 1:10:13
  It's urea.
• 1:10:14
  Why not just bring back the system and you could use your own.
• 1:10:17
  I mean, it goes with the other part of the story.
• 1:10:18
  The GM is ahead of its time and everybody else is just trying to catch up.
• 1:10:22
  I like the name for this thing, though.
• 1:10:24
  The thermosan as in thermal sanitary, right?
• 1:10:27
  Thermosan waste reduction system.
• 1:10:30
  There's brochures, there's pamphlets, there's diagrams.
• 1:10:33
  Can you imagine having to service this thing?
• 1:10:36
  I love this part is a screen prevented solid waste from entering
• 1:10:39
  and clogging the system, which would have been hellacious to fix.
• 1:10:42
  Amusingly, Thetford, I guess the guy from the, uh, the, from the company, right?
• 1:10:46
  Call the exit an ejection orifice.
• 1:10:53
  That's awesome.
• 1:10:54
  Ejection orifice.
• 1:10:56
  Speaking of ejection orifices, this next one, it just begs
• 1:11:00
  the question, what compels.
• 1:11:03
  Someone to do something like this and it also goes back to our theme of where do
• 1:11:07
  people get the money to do this I want to know more about the counterweight
• 1:11:12
  on this I want to know how he didn't kill himself standing next to that fan.
• 1:11:16
  This is insane.
• 1:11:17
  He bolts a radial Aircraft engine to the back of a 70s beetle.
• 1:11:23
  This is nuts And it sounds terrible.
• 1:11:26
  And then what you take this to cars and coffee, how do you not
• 1:11:29
  get pulled over immediately?
• 1:11:31
  I just, I don't know what to say.
• 1:11:32
  I don't know.
• 1:11:33
  You make one false move coming around the back end of that car.
• 1:11:36
  You are dead.
• 1:11:38
  That thing is in sane.
• 1:11:40
  And I bet it drives like complete garbage, too.
• 1:11:43
  To your point, the counterweighting, I mean, just, ugh, awful.
• 1:11:46
  It's got a Hellcat motor in the front driving the front wheels.
• 1:11:48
  Oh!
• 1:11:50
  So that's how they balance it.
• 1:11:51
  Well, speaking of what compels people, we have an uncool wall nominee.
• 1:11:55
  Have you guys seen this thing?
• 1:11:56
  This was actually a real picture taken by my wife on a recent college tour.
• 1:12:01
  Please tell me your wife took this picture in Portland.
• 1:12:04
  It looks like a very Portland thing.
• 1:12:07
  No, she was in, uh, Philly.
• 1:12:09
  It was in Philly and she posted it in our discord and goes, what is this?
• 1:12:13
  And I actually didn't have an answer.
• 1:12:15
  We had to do some research on this one and it's the Myers Motors NMG.
• 1:12:20
  Didn't Jeremy Clarkson drive something like this to the offices at Top Gear?
• 1:12:23
  Well, that was a peel P 50, which it sort of looks like, but it's much, much
• 1:12:27
  bigger because look at it in reference to the scooter that's next to it.
• 1:12:30
  And I love the fact that they just happened to be together because now you
• 1:12:34
  have an idea of how goofy it is, but also.
• 1:12:37
  I think I would rather have that Yamaha scooter that's next
• 1:12:39
  to it than drive that thing.
• 1:12:42
  This thing is awful.
• 1:12:43
  So all I can say is go to our website, gtmotorsports.
• 1:12:47
  org, click on break, fix, and then go to uncool wall.
• 1:12:49
  And you can vote on this and like 65 other cars that have been nominated
• 1:12:54
  either through, what should I buy?
• 1:12:55
  Or the drive through or our staff picks.
• 1:12:57
  There's no shortage of just really freaky cars out there.
• 1:13:01
  And this is.
• 1:13:02
  Definitely one of them.
• 1:13:03
  But in the meantime, gotta switch gears and talk about rich people thangs.
• 1:13:07
  Sponsored in part by Garage Style Magazine, because after all, what
• 1:13:10
  doesn't belong in your garage?
• 1:13:12
  How about the new Bentley?
• 1:13:15
  And it's not the Bent Yaga Daba Daba Doo, this is the new Bentley
• 1:13:20
  Continental GT Speed 771 horsepower.
• 1:13:25
  Pretty nice A8, wouldn't you say?
• 1:13:27
  I want it.
• 1:13:27
  That is a good looking car.
• 1:13:29
  Yes.
• 1:13:29
  Yes.
• 1:13:29
  I love all the Bentleys, like the Bentley race cars and stuff.
• 1:13:33
  I've liked the Bentley GT Continental since it came out.
• 1:13:36
  It's just a good looking car with massive power, a massive motor.
• 1:13:40
  I actually got the opportunity to drive the W12 twin turbo version
• 1:13:44
  of this that came out, you know, whatever it was like 10 years ago.
• 1:13:47
  First, I was like, whatever, you know, it's a two door a big deal.
• 1:13:52
  It's all Volkswagen stuff, because, you know, Volkswagen owns Bentley, right?
• 1:13:55
  But it had all these really interesting luxury things like there's this little
• 1:13:59
  arm that brings the seatbelt to you.
• 1:14:02
  So you don't have to Turn and reach back forward and possibly like tweak your
• 1:14:06
  shoulder while, you know, you've been putting your seatbelt on and the seat
• 1:14:09
  adjusts and it like massages you and in a corner, it'll push up against you to
• 1:14:13
  make sure that you're not leaning out.
• 1:14:14
  You know, all of this stuff, it's like, God, all this crazy stuff.
• 1:14:16
  And I'm like, no wonder it weighs 9, 000 pounds, but the minute
• 1:14:20
  you wrapped on the throttle, holy hell, it was like a tornado.
• 1:14:25
  It just unleashes.
• 1:14:26
  All this power and that motor that W12 twin turbo, I don't think was
• 1:14:30
  nearly as powerful as this is.
• 1:14:32
  I think it was like 650 horsepower.
• 1:14:33
  And now they're talking closer to 800.
• 1:14:35
  So I can only imagine with all wheel drive and that kind of power, what
• 1:14:38
  kind of gut punch it would be to just open the taps on this thing.
• 1:14:42
  But at the same time, I think this looks better than the older
• 1:14:46
  Bentley, which wasn't bad looking.
• 1:14:48
  You know, sometimes the newer cars are like, eh, I'm not really convinced.
• 1:14:51
  It's a little uglier or whatever.
• 1:14:52
  This is actually really, really cool.
• 1:14:54
  It definitely has.
• 1:14:55
  Some very Germanic styling cues to it, but on the same token,
• 1:15:00
  I think this is really slick.
• 1:15:01
  I was about to say I don't hate it, and then I saw the back of it.
• 1:15:04
  E tron GT or this?
• 1:15:05
  This.
• 1:15:06
  No, I would get the E tron.
• 1:15:09
  Now I'm looking at used Bentley Continental GTs.
• 1:15:14
  How much is this Bentley?
• 1:15:15
  Cause I think I can get two e trons.
• 1:15:17
  I'd get day and night versions.
• 1:15:19
  Cheaper than the McLaren SUV, but more expensive than that Grand Wagoneer.
• 1:15:24
  I'll put it that way.
• 1:15:25
  Then I could buy three e trons maybe.
• 1:15:29
  Who can afford these things?
• 1:15:31
  Rich people can afford these things.
• 1:15:33
  Well, you know what?
• 1:15:33
  We're going to go down south and we're not going to talk about rich people.
• 1:15:36
  We're going to talk about alligators and beer.
• 1:15:53
  All right.
• 1:15:53
  So this one, okay.
• 1:15:56
  Boat launch fail of the year.
• 1:15:58
  Now you see the beginning photos here.
• 1:16:01
  You need to scroll down to where you see the first beer and bananas
• 1:16:06
  Instagram video, and you need to watch the Instagram video.
• 1:16:10
  However, I'm giving you a disclaimer.
• 1:16:12
  This will be painful for you guys to watch.
• 1:16:14
  I can see the first photos and I can already, I understand why.
• 1:16:18
  So they're attempting to pull the boat.
• 1:16:20
  Out of the water on the trailer.
• 1:16:22
  Wait, is that a human tow hitch?
• 1:16:25
  Yeah.
• 1:16:25
  Keep watching.
• 1:16:26
  Oh, wait.
• 1:16:26
  There's four parts.
• 1:16:27
  There's four parts.
• 1:16:28
  You want to watch part one?
• 1:16:30
  Whoa.
• 1:16:31
  Oh my God.
• 1:16:31
  No, no.
• 1:16:38
  Then where's the next one?
• 1:16:39
  Where's the part two.
• 1:16:40
  Here we go.
• 1:16:41
  So part one, for those who aren't enjoying.
• 1:16:45
  The video, imagine the man holding onto the back of a tailgate of a pickup truck,
• 1:16:51
  horizontal, with his waist inside the boat, and as the pickup truck's pulling
• 1:16:55
  the boat out of the water on the trailer, he's acting like the winch, essentially.
• 1:17:00
  He's gonna pull the boat along with his feet, essentially, because he starts
• 1:17:04
  getting dragged out of the boat, of course, because he's not able to hold on
• 1:17:07
  to a boat because physics, they almost get out of the water, but he completely
• 1:17:13
  out of the boat and then slams down crotch into to the tow hitch of the pickup truck.
• 1:17:22
  Very painful.
• 1:17:23
  So that was part one of the video.
• 1:17:24
  Part two of the video is now they got up out of the water onto the ground
• 1:17:28
  before the boat fell off the trailer.
• 1:17:30
  Then it slipped off the trailer because it was never locked in place.
• 1:17:33
  So now they've got a boat on dry land and they're all standing
• 1:17:36
  around going, what do we do?
• 1:17:38
  What they end up doing is just pushing it, scraping it across the
• 1:17:41
  ground back into the water, and they get it back into the water.
• 1:17:44
  Part three I didn't watch because everything said that it was really
• 1:17:46
  boring and not really worth watching.
• 1:17:49
  So I didn't watch it.
• 1:17:50
  But I do recommend watching the conclusion of this.
• 1:17:54
  Part four is the glorious finale of getting the boat out of the water,
• 1:17:59
  and this guy is just peak Florida man.
• 1:18:03
  Why are they unhooking it?
• 1:18:08
  They got the boat pulled up, why unhook it?
• 1:18:11
  I'm going the wrong way.
• 1:18:12
  I'm turning the wrong way.
• 1:18:13
  And now he's dancing, headbanging.
• 1:18:16
  He's so happy.
• 1:18:17
  Yeah, and he almost knocks himself out on the back end of that truck
• 1:18:20
  because he's like headbanging it.
• 1:18:21
  He's the guy that slammed his nuts at the beginning.
• 1:18:24
  Yes, he is.
• 1:18:25
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:25
  He's recovered from that very quickly.
• 1:18:28
  We've made this joke before that there's something in the water, whether
• 1:18:32
  it's the alligator piss or whatever.
• 1:18:34
  As again, I was listening to NPR.
• 1:18:36
  They were talking about a report.
• 1:18:38
  About how down towards like Brazil, there are sharks that are basically on cocaine.
• 1:18:44
  So it's like cocaine bear as they were explaining this and what was
• 1:18:48
  boggling people's minds is what is the concentration level of cocaine
• 1:18:52
  in the water that basically the sharks aren't metabolizing it and
• 1:18:56
  the water isn't diluting it enough.
• 1:18:58
  Cause again, this is in the ocean.
• 1:19:00
  That's a lot of water.
• 1:19:02
  So if you can't dilute the cocaine, How much is in the water?
• 1:19:06
  So now I'm thinking about the jet stream and the currents and my head's going.
• 1:19:10
  And this is why Florida is the way it is the way the waters move.
• 1:19:14
  There's gotta be something in the water.
• 1:19:16
  It's not the cocaine in the water.
• 1:19:18
  It's the cocaine in themselves.
• 1:19:19
  Oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:19:22
  I was expecting something more exciting in the last.
• 1:19:26
  No, I mean, it ends just right.
• 1:19:28
  With like, this guy is on something, clearly, from part one, there's
• 1:19:34
  something's not, not normal.
• 1:19:38
  Speaking of not normal, you know, we like to make fun of Ultimas
• 1:19:41
  more often than not as well.
• 1:19:42
  Did you hear about the Ultima man that broke into a dealership?
• 1:19:46
  This is wild because he didn't, but also I could see his
• 1:19:50
  point that his car was stolen.
• 1:19:52
  Guy goes to the gas station.
• 1:19:54
  He's got his ultimate at the pump.
• 1:19:56
  I guess he goes inside like people do, which super irritates me.
• 1:19:59
  Move your car, park it, free up a pump, especially if you're at
• 1:20:02
  the diesel pump drives me nuts.
• 1:20:04
  So I guess he doesn't leave it in gear or whatever.
• 1:20:06
  It's an automatic.
• 1:20:07
  So whatever he must have had it in neutral.
• 1:20:09
  The car just starts rolling away and they've got it on the security cameras.
• 1:20:13
  It rolls away.
• 1:20:14
  It goes across the street.
• 1:20:15
  And then crashes into a dealership, destroys the front of the dealership,
• 1:20:19
  went this way and the other.
• 1:20:20
  So the guy reports his car stolen, and then the next morning, the guy at the
• 1:20:24
  dealership is reporting that somebody crashed into the building, and, you
• 1:20:28
  know, vandalized the property, and it was all just the car by itself.
• 1:20:32
  There's an argument to be had here.
• 1:20:34
  Yes, that the Ultima was too nice, and it needed to be beat up.
• 1:20:38
  So it just sacrificed itself.
• 1:20:41
  It just said, my driver's too good to me.
• 1:20:43
  I'm going to go find a building to slam into.
• 1:20:45
  And that's what it did.
• 1:20:45
  No, but the distance this car went, can you imagine you go inside the gas station?
• 1:20:49
  I don't know, you go to the bathroom, you can't see your car anymore.
• 1:20:53
  And you come back out, it's nighttime.
• 1:20:55
  So the car was off, the headlights are off, this thing crossed four
• 1:20:58
  lanes, plus a median, a divided highway, then through a parking lot.
• 1:21:02
  Smashes into a building.
• 1:21:04
  So you come out of the gas station.
• 1:21:06
  You're like I left my car here.
• 1:21:08
  It's not here You're looking around.
• 1:21:10
  It's not here.
• 1:21:11
  You're not thinking let me look way across the street over there like a quarter
• 1:21:16
  mile or more Yeah, that closed parking lot and see if my car is over there.
• 1:21:20
  You're like panic getting on the phone going holy shit my car was just stolen
• 1:21:25
  this ultima is actually herbie okay it just drove itself it just put itself
• 1:21:30
  on the wall it's more like christine curious now like how the insurance
• 1:21:34
  handles something like this because he was negligent One could argue.
• 1:21:39
  Yes.
• 1:21:39
  So he should be at fault.
• 1:21:40
  It all starts with him leaving his Ultima unattended at the gas pump.
• 1:21:44
  Let's talk about something else here.
• 1:21:46
  How impressive is that Ultima?
• 1:21:49
  It tracks straight.
• 1:21:50
  And over a median and was able to keep going.
• 1:21:54
  It was hard to tell.
• 1:21:55
  It didn't seem like the downhill was that downhill, but it must have been
• 1:21:58
  quite the descent for it to have picked up enough speed to hop over the curb,
• 1:22:03
  not beach itself on the median then.
• 1:22:05
  But then come back down and then keep going into the dealership.
• 1:22:09
  Ultimas are strong vehicles.
• 1:22:10
  They have to be.
• 1:22:11
  It's, it's like my toddler.
• 1:22:13
  I tried to go feed my toddler dinner and it runs away.
• 1:22:16
  I mean, he was trying to give his Ultima some fuel and it was like, nah, dog.
• 1:22:20
  I'm out of here.
• 1:22:20
  Leave me alone.
• 1:22:22
  I'm good.
• 1:22:22
  I had a, I had a snack earlier.
• 1:22:24
  I'm okay.
• 1:22:24
  I'm good.
• 1:22:25
  Just when you guys thought it couldn't get any worse.
• 1:22:28
  Have you heard, and I'm not talking about the Olympics,
• 1:22:31
  because that's going on right now.
• 1:22:32
  Have you heard?
• 1:22:33
  Oh, I've heard of it.
• 1:22:34
  About the Florida Man games.
• 1:22:36
  I'm watching the trailer now.
• 1:22:37
  Dude, they got events like dumpster diving for catalytic converters
• 1:22:41
  while wearing inflatable alligators and being chased by the cops.
• 1:22:43
  Does it get any better than that?
• 1:22:44
  Evading arrest, yeah.
• 1:22:46
  Obstacle course.
• 1:22:47
  It doesn't get any more Florida than this.
• 1:22:48
  That is epic.
• 1:22:50
  That needs to be on a streaming service.
• 1:22:52
  This is the new MXC.
• 1:22:54
  This is hilarious.
• 1:22:56
  Florida man games.
• 1:22:57
  They're looking for vendors and sponsors.
• 1:22:59
  We should do this.
• 1:23:00
  Sponsorify the drive thru.
• 1:23:02
  Done March 1st.
• 1:23:03
  Next year.
• 1:23:04
  Here we go.
• 1:23:04
  March 1st.
• 1:23:05
  We gotta go, dude.
• 1:23:06
  Come on.
• 1:23:07
  Come on.
• 1:23:08
  That's www.thefloridamangames.com.
• 1:23:10
  We gotta go.
• 1:23:11
  That's early.
• 1:23:11
  I mean obviously it's in Florida.
• 1:23:13
  In Florida.
• 1:23:13
  Where is that?
• 1:23:14
  Alright, listeners, sign up for our Patreon, send us.
• 1:23:18
  To the Florida man games.
• 1:23:19
  We got to go.
• 1:23:20
  We got a North of Daytona beach.
• 1:23:22
  That's like at the height of Florida.
• 1:23:24
  All right, Eric, if we're going to go, you and I got to start growing our
• 1:23:27
  mullets now, because there's a mullet.
• 1:23:29
  Contest.
• 1:23:29
  Have you seen my hair lately, dude?
• 1:23:30
  I'm getting there.
• 1:23:31
  I'm getting there.
• 1:23:33
  Judges shorten the sides.
• 1:23:35
  I'm at Corvette level.
• 1:23:36
  I'm not at Fiero level yet.
• 1:23:37
  I'm not quite there yet.
• 1:23:38
  Wow.
• 1:23:40
  Tickets are 35 general admission up to 420 for that RV Country Trailer Park Pass.
• 1:23:47
  Go on VIP then.
• 1:23:48
  Come on.
• 1:23:48
  We need a Patreon sign up.
• 1:23:50
  Includes VIP parking area, unlimited ride.
• 1:23:53
  There's rides?
• 1:23:54
  Unlimited ride passes.
• 1:23:55
  You missed the fine print.
• 1:23:56
  It's unlimited rides in the backseat of a police cruiser to the jail.
• 1:24:01
  Unlimited rides.
• 1:24:04
  Climb a controlled indoor VIP area, three free drinks, free catered lunch,
• 1:24:08
  VIP bathrooms, and reserve bleacher seating during the Florida man game.
• 1:24:11
  This is awesome.
• 1:24:12
  We got to do this.
• 1:24:13
  Sign up, Patreon, send us to the Florida man games.
• 1:24:15
  We're going to do this.
• 1:24:16
  Weaponized pool, noodle, mud duel.
• 1:24:19
  Oh my God, dude.
• 1:24:22
  All of it is amazing.
• 1:24:25
  It's time to go behind the pit wall and talk a little bit about
• 1:24:28
  motor sports news, not falling.
• 1:24:30
  Too far from this whole Florida man game story, you know, it's not
• 1:24:35
  uncommon to have an opening prayer at a race, but this one takes the cake.
• 1:24:40
  And I got to get a shout out to my wife for finding this golden nugget.
• 1:24:44
  Have you guys seen this opening prayer at this NASCAR race?
• 1:24:48
  Thank you for the Fords and Toyotas.
• 1:24:51
  This was a Talladega Knights moment.
• 1:24:53
  I mean, this is just crazy.
• 1:24:55
  Is this the one where the guy talks about his wife?
• 1:24:57
  Smokin hot white Lisa!
• 1:24:59
  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
• 1:25:02
  Boogity, boogity, boogity!
• 1:25:03
  Boogity, boogity, boogity!
• 1:25:05
  Somebody was watching Cars 2.
• 1:25:07
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:25:08
  I love the guy in the background too, he's like, It's a guy on a John
• 1:25:12
  Deere, dressed up like Randy Savage.
• 1:25:14
  Yes!
• 1:25:15
  Drinking a beer.
• 1:25:16
  Oh my gosh!
• 1:25:21
  It's funny because it's real, not because we're making fun of it,
• 1:25:25
  because it's real and it happened.
• 1:25:27
  God bless.
• 1:25:28
  That was awesome.
• 1:25:29
  I haven't heard that one yet.
• 1:25:30
  In the name of Jesus, we pray.
• 1:25:36
  Oh man, can you imagine?
• 1:25:37
  Someone did Jesse's.
• 1:25:39
  Prayer from the fast and the furious in the comments, dear heavenly spirit.
• 1:25:43
  Thank you for providing us with direct port nitrous injection for
• 1:25:46
  core intercoolers and ball bearing turbos and a titanium valve springs.
• 1:25:50
  Thank you.
• 1:25:50
  Shall we address the elephant in the room?
• 1:25:55
  Formula one.
• 1:25:56
  What's formula one?
• 1:25:57
  I mean, I don't even want to talk about all the BS with Verstappen and, you know,
• 1:26:03
  blah, blah, blah, whiny baby cry stuff.
• 1:26:06
  I want to talk about this Brad Pitt movie.
• 1:26:08
  This is some smoking hot garbage.
• 1:26:10
  I feel like the plot line is going to be smoking hot garbage because there's
• 1:26:15
  yet to be evidence that there is one.
• 1:26:18
  Which, in fairness, is like the first trailer, so they only have
• 1:26:22
  so much, I guess, they can show.
• 1:26:24
  But for someone who is not a fan, not a follower, it's going to be
• 1:26:30
  visually very exciting for them.
• 1:26:32
  If you like CGI, yes.
• 1:26:34
  Well, that's all anything is these days.
• 1:26:36
  I mean, I think it's all real footage.
• 1:26:38
  I don't know if there's accidents and things like that, but the CGI comes
• 1:26:41
  in where they've taken real footage and changed the liveries and changed
• 1:26:44
  the colors so that it matches what the movie's trying to do, because
• 1:26:47
  there are legitimate scenes that are real F1 clips of other drivers.
• 1:26:52
  But then they just photo edited afterwards, video edited, and made it look
• 1:26:56
  like it was Brad's pit car going up Eau Rouge when it was really pure gasoline.
• 1:27:01
  I'm still gonna watch it, just like every other car movie that comes out.
• 1:27:04
  The trailer that's out now, I don't think there's been a second one yet,
• 1:27:08
  but whichever version it was, it's just like, it opened with Brad Pitt saying
• 1:27:12
  some garbage, and I just wanted to vomit when he first started speaking.
• 1:27:15
  I don't know, it was just a reaction.
• 1:27:17
  It just sounded so dumb.
• 1:27:19
  what he was saying was McLaren, Audi, or not Audi, McLaren, Mercedes.
• 1:27:24
  I got Audi on my brain because that's another hot topic.
• 1:27:27
  They've all got the speed, but we need to tack in the corners.
• 1:27:31
  And it's like, what are you fucking talking about?
• 1:27:33
  Because then like his engineer is like, you want me to build a unsafe car?
• 1:27:37
  Like what?
• 1:27:38
  And then the premise seems to be Basically backmarker with no funding suddenly
• 1:27:43
  rises to become F1 world champion.
• 1:27:45
  It's like that's not how it works.
• 1:27:47
  No, no, there's no Cinderella story here that whoever no name scrounged
• 1:27:54
  up a few dollars to get into a race car in Formula One and suddenly is.
• 1:27:59
  beating Red Bull.
• 1:28:00
  No, not reality.
• 1:28:02
  Did you also happen to catch in the background of the trailer,
• 1:28:05
  I thought I saw Gunther Steiner.
• 1:28:07
  Yes, he does make a cameo in there.
• 1:28:09
  Just tells you, sponsored by Haas.
• 1:28:11
  Well, and that's what I'm confused too, like, what is this storyline?
• 1:28:14
  Because it showed at the time, I guess they were at Silverstone, maybe?
• 1:28:18
  I don't remember.
• 1:28:18
  It was one of the recent races and Brad and whoever else has been going to all
• 1:28:23
  the events and they're quietly in the background recording to give it that
• 1:28:26
  authentic feel so a lot of times when some of the other people are doing their
• 1:28:30
  press interview stuff Brad's over behind them sort of in a corner and he's got
• 1:28:35
  fake press stuff going on there too and so in the very beginning when they all
• 1:28:38
  line up for the anthems and all that stuff pre race There's a scene where they
• 1:28:42
  had Brad and the other driver, whatever the actor's name is, they were standing
• 1:28:46
  alongside, and then Verstappen was there, and like Perez, and like everybody else.
• 1:28:50
  And so you see all of them, and I'm like, Are you competing against
• 1:28:53
  the real Formula One drivers then?
• 1:28:55
  Like, why are you showing them?
• 1:28:56
  Or is it just like, no one's gonna know who these guys are, so it's no big deal?
• 1:29:01
  Because then the plot is even worse.
• 1:29:03
  Yeah.
• 1:29:03
  If Podunkville people come up from nowhere in F1 and, again, are going to try to
• 1:29:08
  beat the leading constructors, it's like, you don't have a leg to stand on,
• 1:29:12
  because if not, Haas would be winning.
• 1:29:14
  It's going to be terrible, but again, I'm going to watch it, so.
• 1:29:16
  So I don't know, I mean, I'm being very negative about it prematurely.
• 1:29:20
  Who knows, maybe it'll be quite good, but somehow these things
• 1:29:23
  don't often end up that way.
• 1:29:24
  Have you seen Driven?
• 1:29:25
  Well, Driven just becomes absurd where it was.
• 1:29:28
  Ridiculous driving around whatever the city street over manhole
• 1:29:30
  covers or whatever the thing was.
• 1:29:32
  Well, we know that doesn't work because of Las Vegas.
• 1:29:34
  Exactly.
• 1:29:35
  So that was fake.
• 1:29:36
  I don't know.
• 1:29:37
  We'll see.
• 1:29:37
  We'll all watch it.
• 1:29:38
  We'll have to do it with.
• 1:29:39
  Steve and Izzy will tear that movie apart.
• 1:29:41
  It'll be fantastic.
• 1:29:42
  I look forward to that actually.
• 1:29:44
  Yep.
• 1:29:44
  What else is going on Formula 1?
• 1:29:46
  There's all this talk of Audi and skeletons coming out of the
• 1:29:50
  closets and God knows what else.
• 1:29:52
  We're stabbing it as a curfew now.
• 1:29:55
  Well, it's because he's 11.
• 1:29:56
  So I mean, come on, right?
• 1:29:57
  It's like the old Snickers commercials where you had like The celebrity who
• 1:30:01
  was like really cranky doing bad stuff.
• 1:30:03
  And then like someone hands him a Snickers bar and then suddenly he becomes like
• 1:30:06
  this different celebrity and super nice.
• 1:30:08
  And it's like, you really get angry when you're hungry or whatever the slogan was.
• 1:30:12
  So I guess he gets really angry when he's sleepy.
• 1:30:15
  I don't know because the thing is, people are trying to say
• 1:30:19
  it's because he was up at 3 a.
• 1:30:20
  m.
• 1:30:20
  doing sim racing when he should have been resting and sleeping.
• 1:30:23
  So his aggressive behavior is the result of.
• 1:30:26
  You know, his lack of sleep.
• 1:30:28
  I'm like, no, his aggressive behavior has always been there.
• 1:30:31
  And the only reason we haven't seen his aggressive behavior for two years,
• 1:30:34
  because he was in a car that was leagues above everybody else's, and he was always
• 1:30:38
  out at front doing hot laps by himself.
• 1:30:39
  So he had no pressure at any time, no reason to be aggressive.
• 1:30:43
  He was just out there bored.
• 1:30:46
  And now we're seeing him actually have to race wheel to wheel with other people.
• 1:30:50
  And guess what?
• 1:30:51
  His aggressive nature's coming back out.
• 1:30:53
  Because racing incident this, that, or any other, sure, fine, let's call it
• 1:30:56
  that, and not give Hamilton a penalty.
• 1:30:58
  But it's like, you dive bombed him, and it didn't work.
• 1:31:01
  And then you want to say it's his fault.
• 1:31:03
  I've said it before, you can take the boy out of the go kart, but you can't
• 1:31:06
  take the kart racer out of the boy.
• 1:31:08
  I mean it would have been an amazing move had he been able to stick it but this
• 1:31:12
  time it didn't work and he locked up and he's lucky he's so lucky he didn't crash
• 1:31:16
  himself out freaking incredibly lucky how you go up in the air slam back down shoot
• 1:31:22
  off the track And you're able to like slow down enough not to slam into the barrier,
• 1:31:26
  turn right next to it, and then get back on track and basically lose a position.
• 1:31:30
  Well, well, we've seen the exact opposite of that because Okan does stuff like
• 1:31:33
  that and just destroys everybody.
• 1:31:35
  Remember Monaco?
• 1:31:36
  I mean, this could have very well been the same thing where he just missiled into
• 1:31:40
  the side of Hamilton and took him out.
• 1:31:41
  And it's like, for what?
• 1:31:42
  Because if you're so much better and so much faster, you could have
• 1:31:45
  waited till the next turn then.
• 1:31:46
  Could have waited till the next Lap, even, because you still
• 1:31:50
  had several laps ahead of you.
• 1:31:51
  Anyway, so I don't know why anybody's surprised, because I thought we all saw
• 1:31:54
  this behavior when he was not in Red Bull, or in the Junior Red Bull, where
• 1:31:59
  he was super aggressive, and yada yada yada, so I don't know that we can blame
• 1:32:03
  lack of sleep in sim racing, as opposed to his true driving character because
• 1:32:08
  we even saw it in his sim racing where he literally got pissed off enough
• 1:32:12
  and he went and punted somebody off.
• 1:32:14
  Yep that did happen yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:32:16
  So how is this any different?
• 1:32:18
  It's really not.
• 1:32:18
  Other than the fact that this is real world and you could hurt somebody.
• 1:32:21
  It's a lot more exciting now thankfully that some of the other constructors
• 1:32:25
  are now finally bringing forward a car that can compete and we're
• 1:32:28
  seeing other people winning sometimes not even on the podium anymore.
• 1:32:32
  Ever since Adrian Newey left, I wonder why?
• 1:32:38
  I do not know.
• 1:32:39
  I'm just saying all signs point to Adrian Newey.
• 1:32:41
  I always thought they were cheating, but you know, I'm just
• 1:32:43
  going to leave that where it is.
• 1:32:44
  And that's probably why Adrian Newey left.
• 1:32:45
  The writing was on the wall.
• 1:32:46
  Yeah.
• 1:32:47
  They were that close to being exposed because of Christian
• 1:32:50
  horny and all that stuff.
• 1:32:51
  And then they were going to blow the lid on everything and they were going
• 1:32:54
  to figure out that they were cheating.
• 1:32:55
  Like I've been saying, and that's that, but you know, Hey, Oh, I'm
• 1:32:58
  okay being wrong about that too.
• 1:33:00
  But the proof is suddenly coincidentally in the pudding.
• 1:33:03
  So we'll see.
• 1:33:04
  So Audi.
• 1:33:05
  I'm confused by this one.
• 1:33:06
  They named their team principal and it's former Ferrari team principal.
• 1:33:11
  Egon Spangler.
• 1:33:12
  Yes.
• 1:33:13
  But Benotti or Benuti, whatever his name is.
• 1:33:16
  Yes.
• 1:33:16
  Butoni, whatever.
• 1:33:18
  I can't remember.
• 1:33:18
  Minotto.
• 1:33:19
  Yeah.
• 1:33:19
  That really Italian name.
• 1:33:21
  That guy.
• 1:33:21
  Yes.
• 1:33:21
  He looks like Egon Spangler.
• 1:33:22
  I mean, let's get real.
• 1:33:24
  Yes.
• 1:33:24
  Yeah.
• 1:33:24
  Harold Ramis.
• 1:33:25
  I don't know how to feel.
• 1:33:26
  My initial reaction was disappointment because I'm like, great.
• 1:33:29
  It goes out.
• 1:33:32
  They should have got Steiner.
• 1:33:33
  No, it's worse.
• 1:33:34
  At least it would have been entertaining.
• 1:33:35
  No, it's such a small community.
• 1:33:40
  That's just it.
• 1:33:41
  I mean, who are you going to name as a print?
• 1:33:43
  I brought that French guy back.
• 1:33:44
  Uh, no, the guy that was Renault.
• 1:33:48
  Beryl, that was his name.
• 1:33:49
  Here's a novel concept, why not hire somebody else?
• 1:33:53
  Like Andretti!
• 1:33:54
  You know, you know.
• 1:33:56
  How about somebody from Formula 2, Formula 3, some of the others.
• 1:34:00
  Be better than Steiner.
• 1:34:01
  Steiner's fucking entertaining.
• 1:34:04
  That's all he is though.
• 1:34:05
  So that's all I want, I don't care.
• 1:34:07
  They're not gonna win.
• 1:34:09
  I have high hopes for Audi, but With everything we talked about
• 1:34:13
  earlier, how is Volkswagen going to afford a Formula One team?
• 1:34:16
  You know?
• 1:34:17
  I don't know.
• 1:34:18
  Because it ain't cheap to run a Formula One team, and it's not Porsche that's
• 1:34:22
  doing it, it's Audi that's doing it.
• 1:34:24
  I don't know where the buckets of money come from.
• 1:34:26
  That's why it's hard to believe what's fact and what's fiction.
• 1:34:29
  Maybe Audi has an OnlyFans page.
• 1:34:31
  Is that what it is?
• 1:34:32
  Okay.
• 1:34:33
  That explains click here to see the Q7 unwrapped, but mom and dad
• 1:34:43
  Volkswagen don't know about it.
• 1:34:48
  Porsche sliding into their DMS for slides in the DM.
• 1:34:53
  Oh, yeah, that's horrible.
• 1:34:54
  Well, I am delinquent on my rally recap.
• 1:34:58
  I kind of fizzled out around Portugal, but then again, during the summer months,
• 1:35:01
  there's only really basically one a month.
• 1:35:03
  So it's pretty easy to get caught up.
• 1:35:05
  So I apologize.
• 1:35:06
  Not that you guys care.
• 1:35:07
  And in the world of WEC and IMSA and World Challenge and all that fun stuff, you
• 1:35:13
  know, we're still riding the high for it.
• 1:35:14
  from Lamar.
• 1:35:15
  So it's like a lot of the races are a lot shorter, like, you know, mid Oh, and
• 1:35:19
  all those, and not all the big cars go to those events, Rolex and Sebring and
• 1:35:24
  leading up to Lamar, it's a big deal.
• 1:35:26
  And then now it kind of gets slow until we start doing some
• 1:35:29
  of the bigger races in the fall.
• 1:35:30
  And then they obviously petite's in October and things like that.
• 1:35:32
  That's not to say that there aren't other things going on in the ACO.
• 1:35:36
  I am going to be at evening with a legend live in San Diego for
• 1:35:41
  blown away to on August the 24th.
• 1:35:43
  So if you're out on the West coast, listening to this and you want to
• 1:35:46
  be part of it, you still have an opportunity to join us on the SS Minnow.
• 1:35:50
  I mean, uh, the America's cup sailing yacht for a three hour tour, leaving
• 1:35:54
  from the San Diego yacht club.
• 1:35:55
  And it's a plated dinner with a chance to sit down and talk with the.
• 1:35:59
  Former legends of Lamont's.
• 1:36:01
  I can't say who's going to be there, but the list of folks, the list
• 1:36:05
  of pro drivers is pretty exciting.
• 1:36:06
  So looking forward to seeing anybody out there, come up and say hi, and
• 1:36:10
  look forward to more evening with a legend episodes throughout the season.
• 1:36:13
  We're on break here in July, but next month, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
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• 1:36:19
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• 1:36:21
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• 1:36:25
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• 1:36:29
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• 1:36:31
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• 1:36:33
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• 1:36:36
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• 1:36:38
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  Right, Brad?
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