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Media Roundtable: Carlyon, Heilman, Jackson · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Week two of Jaguars O T A s are in
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Speaker 1: the books. It's time for another media round table. I'm
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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick and our special guests today Brian Jackson from
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Speaker 1: Channel FOURGA to see you. Thanks for having me, Thank
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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Appreciate his car line from Tin
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Speaker 1: Tin XL. Pleasure to be with you, so pleasure to
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Speaker 1: have you here. Thank you. And from the Florida Times Union,
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Speaker 1: Philip Heilman covers the Jaguars high Field. So if we
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Speaker 1: gotta start. Christian Galen is the groundskeeper at the baseball
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Speaker 1: grounds of Jacksonville. I got a text from here to
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Speaker 1: day if there's a divot along the first baseline, they
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Speaker 1: have to bring dirt in and fill. What happened Philip
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Speaker 1: last night? You know you you're at a baseball game.
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Speaker 1: You have a couple of adult beverages, and suddenly a
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Speaker 1: nice young lady asked you to participate in a between
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Speaker 1: Indians game. Next thing you know, you're running down the
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Speaker 1: first base line south Paw. I would say, uh, very
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Speaker 1: dangerously jumped in front of me. I would say, it
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Speaker 1: caused me to fall, uh head over tea kettle. I
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Speaker 1: would say, got the great But the important thing uh
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Speaker 1: as I got up, got my shoes on, still won
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Speaker 1: the race, and uh no hard feelings with Heuthball. Yeah
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Speaker 1: you signed the waiver. I hope I did. Yes, that's good. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's good for the don't worry. Let's get to Jaguars. O. T. A. S.
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Speaker 1: Shall we Um. Let's start with Nick Foles. He spoke
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Speaker 1: today just a little early right after practice at the podium.
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Speaker 1: Unbelievable week for him and his family. For him to
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Speaker 1: even be back at work this week tells you a
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Speaker 1: lot about his role with this football team. Brian, you
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Speaker 1: had a chance to be over there at that pressure.
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Speaker 1: What did you take away? Well, I thought, like you
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Speaker 1: kind of mentioned, I think we were all surprised when
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Speaker 1: Nick showed up this week, given that everything that he
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Speaker 1: and his family and Tory have been through. So when
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Speaker 1: he was back out there on the practice fields on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: it was kind of like, wow, you know, this guy
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Speaker 1: has been through an entire lot this weekend Um. Nick
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Speaker 1: was very, very touching with what he said. At a
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Speaker 1: point he almost kind of broke down. You can see
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Speaker 1: how this is still obviously you know, weighing heavily on him,
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Speaker 1: but he wanted to make it very clear that he
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Speaker 1: would not be here at practice if it wasn't for
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Speaker 1: his wife. He felt like to where he said that
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Speaker 1: it was important for him to be here with his teammates,
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Speaker 1: and he said very simply, you know, if she wanted
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Speaker 1: me to be at home right now, like I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be here, I would be at home with her. And
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Speaker 1: it was just a really touching um the way that
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Speaker 1: he shared everything that he and his family have been
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Speaker 1: through over the last week or so. Philip, it's amazing
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Speaker 1: how quickly he's made himself a part of this Jacksonville community.
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Speaker 1: It seems like everybody's a fules fan of the sudden.
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Speaker 1: He ain't even thrown the pass in a game yet,
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Speaker 1: that's happened pretty quick around here. Yeah, certainly, and I
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Speaker 1: think obviously the circumstances would not wish on anybody, But
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Speaker 1: to me, it's it's really such an indication of who
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles is as a person, because we saw him
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Speaker 1: when he got up here, and it was a lot
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Speaker 1: of talk about how his faith has driven him. And
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Speaker 1: you know, that's really easy to say when you're just
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Speaker 1: signing a four year, eighty eight million dollar contract. You're
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Speaker 1: going to be the entrenched starter, you're You've got all
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Speaker 1: these great things happening in life. Your wife is pregnant,
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Speaker 1: she's next to your young daughter is there as well.
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Speaker 1: It's very easy to you know, sort of lean on
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Speaker 1: your faith and praise the Lord during those times. But
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Speaker 1: then to come out today, uh, after going through a
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Speaker 1: tragedy that you know, I think many people have gone through,
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Speaker 1: but it certainly never gets any easier. And to still
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Speaker 1: be that sort of rock and talk about the rock
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Speaker 1: that your wife is and how your faith has uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, sort of fortified you during this time. I
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Speaker 1: think it really gives you a glimpse into who the
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Speaker 1: true Nick Foles is. And I think it's a guy
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Speaker 1: that his teammates are going to continue to rally around.
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Speaker 1: This is pretty remarkable, isn't it. It really is. And
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Speaker 1: and Brian and Philip I couldn't agree more with with
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Speaker 1: what they said, so I mean, I'll just take it,
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Speaker 1: you know, a step further. In terms of his performance today,
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Speaker 1: I thought he was outstanding. I mean, you can see
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Speaker 1: such an upgrade in terms of his ability to look
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Speaker 1: off a safety throw, the deep ball, hit the receiver
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Speaker 1: and stride. I thought I thought one throw in particular
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Speaker 1: today was U was about as good as you can
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Speaker 1: do it, and uh and there were others as well.
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Speaker 1: So again, I you know, to already be back it
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Speaker 1: it looking like it's such a high level uh with
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Speaker 1: within echoing everything that these guys said about him per
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Speaker 1: smally and it's just incredibly impressive individual. And to hear
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Speaker 1: a guy like a j Boye earlier in the week
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Speaker 1: talk about the quarterback the way he was talking about
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Speaker 1: the quarterback, that the windows aren't really there, that that
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Speaker 1: he had to go interset balls and make plays last
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Speaker 1: year because the ball is somewhere that the defensive back
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Speaker 1: can't get to it. That's a that's a major step
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Speaker 1: for this organization, not just the position in the offense.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's this could be a huge step to
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Speaker 1: where this Jaguars team goes in the next four or
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Speaker 1: five years here. Yeah, So we've seen, uh, just a
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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of plays from fall so far. I think
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Speaker 1: one of the places you're talking about Hayes was a
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Speaker 1: deep ball to Ketling Cole. You've seen Keitling Cole make
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Speaker 1: a ton of plays almost kind of going back to
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Speaker 1: how he looked his rookie season. And I'm sure that
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Speaker 1: a lot of that has to do with who's on
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Speaker 1: the throwing end of those passes. So you were seeing,
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Speaker 1: you know, these receivers have a lot of confidence within
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Speaker 1: Nick Boles in that hotel, and um, you know, these
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Speaker 1: guys are really looking forward to doing a lot better
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Speaker 1: than last year. Went Philip, are you buying it? Are
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Speaker 1: you buying the Folds hype and he's the man and
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Speaker 1: gonna be the future here or what? Yeah, I would
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Speaker 1: caution everybody to maybe tap the brakes just a little bit.
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Speaker 1: You don't have Jalen Ramsey out there. The contact is
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Speaker 1: not permitted, they're not wearing pads. But certainly for what
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Speaker 1: may going into June, he's hitting all the checkpoints and
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Speaker 1: that's really all you can do this time. You're not
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Speaker 1: winning the super Bowl this time of year, and as
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Speaker 1: Doug Martin, like I said, you're not really winning jobs
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Speaker 1: this time of year. So you know, I don't think
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Speaker 1: the SEC South was one out there on the practice
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Speaker 1: field today, but certainly I think for where you want
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Speaker 1: to be at this time of year, Nick Foles is
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Speaker 1: taking the Jaguars right there, all right. Philip Eland from
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Speaker 1: The Times Union, Hayes Carline from Tintin XL Brian Jackson
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Speaker 1: from Channel four with us on this media round table.
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Speaker 1: You know, all this offensive talk, we hear about how
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles utilizes tight ends and and how John d.
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Speaker 1: Philippo would like to utilize tight ends. We've seen this
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Speaker 1: in action of course in Philadelphia. That's the storyline all this,
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Speaker 1: but we've all kind of had a chance recently to
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Speaker 1: talk to some of these tight ends. That's a real
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Speaker 1: thing too, and how they're working with tight ends and
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Speaker 1: and even putting him back in the back old sum
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Speaker 1: in lieu of a fullback at some points that could
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Speaker 1: be something in this offense too. Hey, this is uh
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Speaker 1: the tight ends will have a major role in this
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Speaker 1: offensive sounds like yeah. I thought it was interesting when
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Speaker 1: we talked to Flip and he said, really, it might
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Speaker 1: be outside a quarterback the hardest position to master in
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Speaker 1: the offense because of everything that they asked them to do, uh,
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Speaker 1: in terms of lining up in the backfield, blocking, obviously
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Speaker 1: being an asset in the passing game. And uh, I
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Speaker 1: think it all starts with Josh Oliver. If he is
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Speaker 1: that Yanniken gok Way third round steal uh and is
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Speaker 1: able to have that instant impact as a rookie. H
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Speaker 1: it would do wonders for this offense, and I hope
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Speaker 1: as a rookie though it's very tough as workie, but
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Speaker 1: it's tough for a pass rusher. And Jhn had what
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Speaker 1: eight sacks as a rookie. I mean if eight sacks
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Speaker 1: as a rookie for a tight end would probably be
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Speaker 1: what what would you say the equivalent that would be
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Speaker 1: if he gave a five hundred yard six hundred yard
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Speaker 1: receiving season, which I think right now would be Uh.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think anybody in this building would sign
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Speaker 1: up for that right now. I think with what strikes
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Speaker 1: me about Josh is the consistency. It's rookies will flash
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Speaker 1: here and there, but it seems like Josh has been
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Speaker 1: a guy that consistently is showing you something as a receiver.
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Speaker 1: And when I asked Doug about him before practice, I
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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. He said, everything that we saw
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Speaker 1: on tape with Josh has translated to the field, he said,
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Speaker 1: So that's been great. We're seeing how well he can run,
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Speaker 1: we're seeing the great catch radius, uh, and eagerness to learn.
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Speaker 1: So he said, he's really happy with where he's at,
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Speaker 1: and he always cautions that you know, the contact aspect
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Speaker 1: hasn't come into play yet, but you know, he he
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Speaker 1: referenced that he thinks his blocking technique from what he's
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Speaker 1: seen so far in the drills is good. So uh,
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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver will be one of the key players to
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Speaker 1: watch once the pads go on in training camp gets
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Speaker 1: going here and in late July with the paths go on,
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Speaker 1: first second day August. Sure, so Oliver one, I guess
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Speaker 1: it's pretty much consistent. Slam is the second guy. He's
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Speaker 1: the veteran, he's the fifth year player. He's had good
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Speaker 1: numbers in Dallas till he got hurt it last year
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Speaker 1: and that's been his story. Ken Swains stay healthy and
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Speaker 1: I talked to him today about that, and it's just
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Speaker 1: he's had some bad luck, you know, some fractures. Is
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Speaker 1: nothing about not being prepared. But at some point he's
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Speaker 1: got to move past that. I don't know how you
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Speaker 1: can really plan to move past that except go play football. Right,
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Speaker 1: But those are the top two guys right now. Swain's
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Speaker 1: gotta be right there as well, and we'll see what
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Speaker 1: really he has. What do you think? Yeah, those are
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Speaker 1: obviously the top two guys that you know, foals for
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Speaker 1: whatever reason. You know, he's a quarterback too. There may
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Speaker 1: not be a quarterback maybe outside of Brady that uses
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Speaker 1: tight ends as effectively his foalds Um in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see, like we said, if
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Speaker 1: um those guys can stay healthy. And one thing that
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Speaker 1: really stood out about Josh Oliver and talking to him
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Speaker 1: is saying that his roommate right now is garden to Minshew,
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Speaker 1: so they've been drawing up plays on the white board
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Speaker 1: in the hotel room and things of that nature. So
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Speaker 1: those are the types of things that you want to
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Speaker 1: hear a rookie saying that they're putting in the extra
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Speaker 1: time because like like Hayes mentioned, Flip said, his f
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Speaker 1: tight end position is the hardest, second hardest position in
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Speaker 1: their offense outside of quarterback. So those are the types
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Speaker 1: of things that you really want to hear, especially a
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Speaker 1: rookie uh saying at this time of the year, Philip,
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Speaker 1: they've thrown so much money at this position over the
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Speaker 1: years here and it just hasn't worked out. Can this
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Speaker 1: finally be the answer? Is this or it's gonna take
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Speaker 1: a little time. I know you want him to to
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Speaker 1: put up seven hundred yards hazes this year and Oliver.
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Speaker 1: But I mean it's not. I don't think it's a
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Speaker 1: one year fix, right, Yeah, I mean I don't think
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Speaker 1: you're gonna suddenly look back and say, Wow, what a
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Speaker 1: dynamic position group this is. But it's a position group
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Speaker 1: that at the professional football level makes sense, which last
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Speaker 1: year it did not. They were pulling guys off the
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Speaker 1: street mid season to try to fill in holes and
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Speaker 1: to just even have stability, to have, you know, consistent
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Speaker 1: production that's on an upward swing compared to where they
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Speaker 1: were last year, where they have been in previous years.
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Speaker 1: I think that is going to be a huge difference. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, whether that is seven hundred yards, but even
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Speaker 1: four hundred yards from a tight end would give the
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Speaker 1: offense something that it really hasn't had here in a
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Speaker 1: long time. And whether it's you know, four hundred yards
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Speaker 1: from Josh Oliver, uh, you know, three fifty yards from
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Speaker 1: Jess Swam, a couple hundred yards from O'Shaughnessy, whoever else
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Speaker 1: is there Suddenly to look up it's wow, Okay, there's
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Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand yards you're getting from the tight end position.
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Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars would sign up for that right
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Speaker 1: away all day, right. I mean, they haven't had that
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Speaker 1: forever around here for a number of reasons. Let's go
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Speaker 1: to defense, fellas, shall we. Uh, Okay, everybody's excited about
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Speaker 1: the defensive sounds like Josh Allen is going to play
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Speaker 1: defensive end according to Todd Wash and nothing else. Is
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Speaker 1: that the right move, haz, Yeah, it absolutely is the
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Speaker 1: right move. I mean, Josh Allen, it was incredible fortune
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Speaker 1: that he fell to seven and you watch him at Kentucky,
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Speaker 1: and sure, he might be good in coverage, but Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen is a game wrecker, is a pass rusher, and
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Speaker 1: that's what the Jaguars need here. So it doesn't make
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Speaker 1: a ton of sense. Occasionally, you know, Willie drop maybe, sure,
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Speaker 1: I mean that Molik Jackson used to drop into coverage
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Speaker 1: every so often. So, I mean, but it was pleasing
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Speaker 1: to hear from Todd Wash that Josh Allen is here
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Speaker 1: to rush the quarterback, to get after him, to be disruptive.
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Speaker 1: And uh, I think when you've got a lineup of
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Speaker 1: Yannike and Gockway on one side, Josh Allen on the other,
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Speaker 1: and you've got Calais Campbell and Marcel Darius, I think
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Speaker 1: in passing situations. Uh, the Jaguars are as good as
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Speaker 1: any team right now in professional football, and Philip, they're
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Speaker 1: gonna run at four three. That was Todd WASH's clear
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Speaker 1: cut answer the other day. There might be some other
11:33
Speaker 1: things that happened, but there are four three defense. He
11:35
Speaker 1: made that clear. Yeah, it was interesting. You know, I
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Speaker 1: thought it would be reasonable to add some three or
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Speaker 1: four wrinkles if you add a guy like Josh Allen,
11:42
Speaker 1: if you have a you know, you hire a defensive
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Speaker 1: assistant like Dom Capers. But clearly Todd Wash is comfortable
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Speaker 1: with what he knows and what they've done. And you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously seen the turnovers and the sacks were much higher.
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Speaker 1: To the defense overall seemed to play at a much
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Speaker 1: higher level. But still last year it was a very
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Speaker 1: solid group with the hand that was dealt, which was
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Speaker 1: an offense that was without a pulse. So I mean,
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Speaker 1: I still think that, you know, Todd Wash is probably right.
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Speaker 1: I do think that he could maybe be a little
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Speaker 1: more creative, maybe untied things just a little bit. And
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Speaker 1: and maybe he will. And you know, he's not required
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Speaker 1: to tell us, Okay, well yeah we're fourth three. But
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Speaker 1: here's what I'm thinking on third down in the opener,
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Speaker 1: here's what I'm thinking on, you know, for third and
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Speaker 1: long situations. Here's what I'm thinking of for a second
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Speaker 1: and intermediate situation. So I'm sure there's some wrinkles to
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Speaker 1: be had, but he's not going to have this holistic change.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a four three that you've seen
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Speaker 1: here since Todd wash has been the defensive coordinator. It'd
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Speaker 1: be pretty cool if we had that list, So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, I'd like it. Yeah, it would be pretty
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Speaker 1: nice to see. You wouldn't share it, right, No, of
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Speaker 1: course we wouldn't share that at all. No, Um, Josh Allen,
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Speaker 1: I mean, did this guy physically is just the first
12:45
Speaker 1: time you see set eyes on him when he walked
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Speaker 1: in the building the other the other months, was like,
12:49
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. I saw him on draft night and
12:52
Speaker 1: I was thought like, okay, maybe he's the same size
12:54
Speaker 1: as Uniqun gug Way. Then so him out here for
12:57
Speaker 1: the first day of otes and I was like, wow,
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Speaker 1: its guns Like, he's a lot bigger than Unique and Ghagway.
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Speaker 1: So as soon as that guy can get on a
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Speaker 1: he can already see his explosion. And you know, the
13:09
Speaker 1: couple of drills. Obviously, he hasn't really done much the
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Speaker 1: last couple of days of O T A S. But
13:13
Speaker 1: you can see the explosion. You can see why this
13:16
Speaker 1: guy kind of wrecked SEC offenses last year. Yeah, that
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Speaker 1: SEC Defensive Player of the Year. Let's move to the
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Speaker 1: secondary now. A J boy A talked earlier this week
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Speaker 1: and he's at ot as this year. I think he
13:27
Speaker 1: has there's a sickness in the family. Last year's father
13:29
Speaker 1: was not well and I think his father is well again.
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Speaker 1: So A J's back, which is good news. Um, and
13:35
Speaker 1: a lot of people might call this a bounce back
13:37
Speaker 1: year for him. I don't know. I mean, he's still
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Speaker 1: played okay, but this this team as a whole, just
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Speaker 1: didn't perform well at the end of the year. I
13:44
Speaker 1: don't know if he would want to go there. What
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Speaker 1: do you guys making a J boy Phil, What do
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Speaker 1: you think about his season coming up and where he
13:51
Speaker 1: is just here and in the other day. Yeah, I
13:53
Speaker 1: think the expectation with a J boy was set so
13:55
Speaker 1: high because I mean I think back to seen they
13:59
Speaker 1: were real think arguments. Could the Jaguars have both of
14:03
Speaker 1: the starting first team All Pro corners like it was
14:05
Speaker 1: reasonable to think Jalen Ramsay and aj Boy it could
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Speaker 1: have been the first team All Pros and they were
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Speaker 1: very closer. Both Pro Bowlers, obviously both All pros. UH
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Speaker 1: certainly could have been very close. So, you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't think he was bad last year. He contends that
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Speaker 1: he didn't give up any touched on passes throughout the
14:20
Speaker 1: entire season, which would be interesting. I don't know, off
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Speaker 1: the top, I had have to go back to my
14:22
Speaker 1: notes and look, that doesn't seem right. It felt like
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Speaker 1: maybe not quite as many plays were made, but that
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Speaker 1: really was the defense as a whole. Going back, you know,
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Speaker 1: the sacks dropped tremendously, the the touchdown dropped. There just
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Speaker 1: none of those splash plays that were so important in
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Speaker 1: that we're just not there. In So, I don't know
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Speaker 1: that it's really uh a bounce back year for a
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Speaker 1: per se. But if he considers himself among that upper
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Speaker 1: echelon of cornerbacks, he probably doesn't need to bring it
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Speaker 1: a little bit more this year. I think I think
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a huge year. Yeah, it's always hard
14:54
Speaker 1: to gauge. He could have a very good year and
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Speaker 1: have two picks, but I think I think it's not
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Speaker 1: unreasonable to think a J. Boyer will finish with four
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Speaker 1: or five picks and uh and I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of other big plays, you know, in in crucial situations.
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Speaker 1: So I think a J. Boyer is the seventeen version,
15:14
Speaker 1: not so much version because I think he was playing
15:16
Speaker 1: through some things. I think a J. Boyer is a
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Speaker 1: fantastic corner in this league, and the fact that you
15:23
Speaker 1: know he's playing opposite Jalen really puts him in a
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Speaker 1: in a great spot. I think the pass rush will
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Speaker 1: be better, which will lead to more opportunities, and they're
15:30
Speaker 1: gonna be playing with the lead more uh and so
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have the opportunities to get back
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Speaker 1: to uh that seen level of playmaking, and I think
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Speaker 1: a J. Boy will be the centerpiece of that a
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Speaker 1: great majority of those secs two years ago. We're with
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Speaker 1: the lead, that's just how and you go out and
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Speaker 1: make plays and quarterbacks are forcing throws back there they
15:52
Speaker 1: can make plays, that's right a J. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: guy's stories unbelievable, undrafted guy worked his way up um.
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Speaker 1: But hearing from him this week, he just seem to
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Speaker 1: have that swagger of a couple of years ago back.
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Speaker 1: You know you didn't wouldn't hear a lot from him
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Speaker 1: last year in the locker room. He was just kind
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Speaker 1: of struggling through it, I think, And we didn't really
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Speaker 1: talk a lot last year. You make it. I think
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Speaker 1: he's I mean, I think he's naturally kind of a
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Speaker 1: maybe a quiet guy. But it's kind of interested to see, like,
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Speaker 1: who's gonna be there? I guess their verbal leader in
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Speaker 1: that secondary. You know. Now they used to say that
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Speaker 1: Barry Church was their quarterback of their secondary. Obviously he's
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Speaker 1: not around. We know who's gonna be you know, vocal
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Speaker 1: at least different leader back there? Yea, Well we know
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Speaker 1: once twenty comes into building, that's a completely different story.
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Speaker 1: But um, during this time, boy, while Jalen is still
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Speaker 1: doing his own thing and down in Nashville, it's interesting
16:42
Speaker 1: to see, you know, how Boy I gets these younger
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Speaker 1: guys up to speed. I mean they don't have a
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Speaker 1: lot of experience, I mean really outside of you know,
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Speaker 1: d J. Hayden and slots. Uh. You know, if one
16:52
Speaker 1: of those guys were to go down, it's like, you know, what,
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Speaker 1: what do the Jaguars have left? So I think you've
16:57
Speaker 1: got to breaking into new starters at safety is well,
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Speaker 1: so that's gonna be a lot of Uh, it's gonna
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Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how the four or five
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Speaker 1: of those guys in the secondary kind of all get
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Speaker 1: on the same page because they haven't really spent that
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Speaker 1: much time together. All Right, final thoughts here, guys, Philip.
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Speaker 1: Next week four o T A S. I know we're
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Speaker 1: all looking forward to that and then the mini camp
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Speaker 1: after that. But next week four O T as left
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Speaker 1: to go. What do you expect next week and what
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Speaker 1: do you have coming up in your coverage and the
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Speaker 1: TU next week? I would expect hopefully more players here.
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Speaker 1: I think that's maybe the one thing that you know.
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Speaker 1: No Leonard for net the last couple of days, No
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Speaker 1: Yannik Gogaway the last couple days, and these are voluntary.
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Speaker 1: That's I'll find it good. And each player has different reasons.
17:36
Speaker 1: But I think if you give Doug Murron some truth serum,
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Speaker 1: he probably would like maybe a little bit higher attendance.
17:43
Speaker 1: But yeah, our coverage, some good stuff on safeties from
17:47
Speaker 1: my colleague Gary Smith's coming up. We'll be talking, talking
17:49
Speaker 1: and tackling the nick Fole situation some more. My colleague
17:52
Speaker 1: En Fornet wrote a really good calumn in today's paper
17:54
Speaker 1: talking to Billy Donovan about going through a similar situation.
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Speaker 1: So I'd encourage anybody who hasn't read that yet to
17:58
Speaker 1: go online the Jacksonall Dog Commen do something. It's excellent,
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Speaker 1: really good reading. Read that this morning. Hey's what you
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Speaker 1: got on Tent Tent coming up? We will have an
18:06
Speaker 1: interview with Josh Oliver later today. I enjoyed getting a
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Speaker 1: chance to speak with him, and uh we will be
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Speaker 1: breaking everything down as best we can all day long.
18:17
Speaker 1: I love it, Brian. How about Channel four this weekend
18:19
Speaker 1: to get something coming up with Chris Connley. He's, you know,
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Speaker 1: the one receiver spent the most time with Nick Fos
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Speaker 1: up to this point, so be interesting to see, you
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Speaker 1: know how he can kind of get some of these
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Speaker 1: other younger receivers who aren't his used to number seven
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Speaker 1: back there up to speed. So that'll be coming up
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Speaker 1: this weekend as well. Sounds great, guys. I really appreciate it,
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Speaker 1: Brian Jackson. Heyes, Carline, Philip Hayman, good to see you guys.
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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week for week number three of
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Speaker 1: O t As. Thank you, j alright, appreciate a lot
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Speaker 1: appreciate it,