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Hey there, everybody, it's Jeff. I wanted to let you know we
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recorded this podcast episode on Tuesday, March twelfth, twenty twenty four, so
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by the time you hear this, some things may have changed here there with
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this particular team we're going to be getting into, but we hope you enjoy
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the show. All right, everybody, welcome to Opposition Territory here at the
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Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in
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the world. That's right, getting close to eleven years of doing this podcast.
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This April will be eleven years. Man, the time has absolutely flown.
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But you know what, we still like to cover other teams here on
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our Opposition Territory show, and this week is no different. We're gonna be
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getting into the Houston Texans and what this team is doing from a philosophical standpoint,
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to build upon the success that they had this past year, a rather
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surprising season they had. But can they keep this momentum forward and keep it
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going forward, I should say, within their division. We got a great
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guest coming your way here. Let's get right to it, joining us from
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sp Nation and fan Nation. We love following him on the Twitter slash x
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at Jeremy Brenner. He's got great, great content that he is putting up
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with the interwebs consistently and to get into this Houston Texans team we have Jeremy
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Brenner. Jeremy Man, thanks so much for joining us this week on Opposition
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Territory. Jeff, It's always good to hear from you. What's going on
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with you. I gotta tell you, I'm excited about Sakwon Barkley. I'll
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tell you that as an Eagles fan, you see this Penn State like drapery
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that I have right here, this Penn State's not like I have always been
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a huge Saquon Barkley fan. I live about an hour north of Philadelphia,
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and he went to high school that's right across the river from where. That's
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a way. We've known about Saquon Barkley in this in this region that I
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live in for quite some time. And the fact that he's coming to the
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Philadelphia Eagles, I am absolutely stoked, my friend. Yeah, you know,
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the Texans were in on him as well, and now that when he
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signed with Philly, it kind of led Houston to go a different way and
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they did. I'm excited for that. As well, and I'm sure we'll
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get to talk about that along with that. Absolutely, absolutely, Yeah,
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let's get into this Texans offseason here, Jeremy, because like first, I
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wanted to talk about some of the re signings here. I mean tight end
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Dalton Schultz, he's going to be returning. I think that's huge for this
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Texans offense. I don't even know how to say the kicker's first name at
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this point. How do I not know how to say this? I'm constantly
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patching Kymie Fairbirn. Yes, he's going to be coming back as well.
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Cornerback Desmond King. He has resigned. Safety Eric Murray he's going to be
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coming back to the Texans as well. So wondering, as you're covering this
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team, how do you look at these re signings and how they pertain to
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the overall philosophy of where the front office is currently at and and how they're
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trying to continue to build this team. Yeah, so it's been they've had
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they had a lot of free agents last year, they signed a lot of
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guys to one year deals, kind of prove it deals, you know when
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you're because coming into the like a year ago, they were the they were
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the second worst team in the league. So they signed a bunch of you
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know, prove it guys, and they they went on and proved it.
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And that's why you see some of these guys coming back. The guys that
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aren't coming back are the ones they can't afford because they outplayed you know,
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their their contract and so you know, getting there's a lot of special teams
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guys like Eric Murray is going to be more of a special teams guy.
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Desmond King more of a deaf guy in the secondary, but also can play
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special teams. He came back midway through the year. Last year he played
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some with Pittsburgh. But yeah, Dalton Schultz, out of those names,
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is the one that stands out to me the most. You know, he
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was a big help for CJ. Stroud in his rookie year, having that
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big target up the middle. You know, you just eat up beat up
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targets, and so having him back is incredibly crucial for the offense. And
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I'd say out of the re signings, he's the most important one. So
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him getting that payday three years is definitely worth it for him. That connection
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between Dalton Schultz and c J. Stratt, I think we're gonna see that
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enhanced even more during this upcoming twenty twenty four season, for sure. But
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as we're moving along here, Jeremy, the Texans certainly they signed some free
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agents as well, most notably today as we're recording this, Joe Mixon coming
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from the Bengals now to the Texans to be that, you know, quote
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lead back. We'll see what happens with the running back situation throughout the rest
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of this offseason here. But they also signed some free agents, not necessarily
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the biggest names in the league, guys like you know, cornerback Mike Ford,
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defensive end Denico Autrey. There's a Jeff Okuda, the cornerback as we
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know, defensive back Lonnie Johnson as well in defensive tackle fully UTUASKI. I
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messed it up. I freaking messed up, as I do all the time.
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And I'm gonna get emails. Jeff, you suck. You can't pronounce
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names. You should hear me during hockey when I talk hockey. Oh my
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gosh, it's terrible. How do you say, fully? Yes, yes,
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there it is. Yes. So anyway, I'm wondering with these free
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agent signings that the Texans have gone through here, this week thus far,
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what grade would you give the front office for these signings and why? And
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also like as it pertains again to the philosophy that we kind of just talked
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about of where this team is actually gonna be going, hopefully this coming season,
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you know, well, I would say the Texans are doing what they
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need to be doing. You know, I really don't think the Texans are
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are building their Super Bowl champion now. I feel like that was built,
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you know, when you draft CJ and you draft Tank Dell like that,
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that's where you build your team. But like a lot of what they've done,
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they've filled some holes that were vacated by you know, Jonathan Grenard going
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to Minnesota. Uh, you saw Lake Cashman also go to Minnesota. So
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having those guys gone, you get you get Denico Autra. He he's gonna
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be a plug and play guy. Uh for Grenard potentially, Uh, you
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look at as he's Al Shire from the Titans, played with Demiko Ryans in
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San Francisco. He's a guy that you can, you know, fill in
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pretty quickly with Lake Cashman. So that's mainly, you know, the bigger
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names, the players that you know have gotten the larger contracts. Those are
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gonna be the guys that replace the guys that you're gonna lose. And you
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know, Devin Singletary they lost to the Giants. That's why you go get
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Joe Mixon, you know. So they they've done a decent job filling the
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holes that I don't necessarily know if if the guys they've brought in are are
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necessarily upgrades from the guys that left. Yeah, but I honestly think that
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the Texans they're not. They're not quite done yet. And I know we're
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talking right now. It's about four o'clock on the East Coast on Tuesday,
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so so plenty of time for free agents to make their decisions. Daniel Hunter
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is also someone that they are, you know, linked to, and I
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feel like that would be an even better replacement for Jonathan Grenard, you know,
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maybe a little bit more comparable. Jonathan Ernard about twelve sacks last year,
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and I believe Daniel Hunter had a similar number, and you know,
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hey, Vikings and Texans, you know, might as well be a trade.
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At that point, I would say, I would say, if they
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can get Daniel Hunter, that will turn this free agency into an a for
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me. But right now it's it's about it's a B right now about to
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be okay. I think that's fair too, because, like like you said,
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like the a lot of these signings thus far for the Texans do not
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appear to be I mean, of course they're not the big splash type of
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signings, but a lot of depth here too, And that's what good teams
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need to do. They need to acquire that depth because injuries happen throughout the
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course of the year. Sometimes guys, you know, they're not able to
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play for an entire half for whatever reason. Uh Again, from an injury
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standpoint, you need to have that depth. And I think that's what a
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lot of these signings really are. And you know, it's interesting how we're
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going along free agency here, Jeremy, And you know, every single team
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has that wish list of free agents that they really just wish that they could
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acquire, whether it's from a financial standpoint, just from a logistical standpoint as
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well in terms of the talent they already have on the team who they want
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to bring in. But you know, the wish list that doesn't always happen.
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And so I'm wondering, is there an area of the free agency period
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that you believe the Texans really need to address more as they really look to
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remain competitive within their division. Like where where do you really want them to
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focus their attention as we're moving forward here? Definitely the pass rush. That's
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why I say to Neil Hunter is a big get for them if they can
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get it. You know, the pass rush is still like you have Will
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Anderson, and Will Anderson you know one review of the year last year,
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like he is your uh, he is like your primary guy. And I'm
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sure they'll use the draft as well to kind of fill in those needs.
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But I would say that is probably like the biggest need for the Texans right
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now. There's also talks about maybe going out getting a receiver, but I
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also feel like that is more of a draft thing because you have Robert Woods
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as kind of your wide receiver three, and while he's not a bad wide
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receiver three, I feel like you could get maybe a better one. Yeah,
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Like if they were to go out on the trademarket for instance, and
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look at Brandon Ayuk and if they if they may, if they acquired Ayuk
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for for whatever reason, I would feel much stronger about the receivers where they're
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at Ayuk, Nico Collins who had a great year last year, Tank Dell
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who was off to a great start before suffering that injury. That would be,
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in my opinion, one of the top ten receiver groups in the NFL.
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So I would say that that's like, maybe if you want to take
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this roster from where it is and elevate it even more, you know,
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that's probably like one little you know, one little area you could possibly address.
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But I still think the Texans have a really good roster given where things
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are, and you know, they have as they have a lot of you
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know, they have they have their picks this coming this year, and I
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honestly think that the Texans are in a pretty decent spot. I don't the
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Texans aren't winning the super Bowl in March, but they're certainly not losing it.
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Yeah, that's a great way to say it. You mentioned the draft.
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We're gonna get to that in a little bit here and again, folks,
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we are talking to Jeremy Brenner from sp Dation and fan Nation. Give
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him a follow on Twitter slash x at Jeremy Brenner. He is a great,
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great follow, and make sure you check out everything he's doing. On
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the interwebs out there. But as we're kind of getting out of this free
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agency period, you know, in the near future, we're gonna be looking
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to the draft. You mentioned the foundation of this team initially is CJ.
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Stroud. I mean, we talked a lot about c J. Stroud the
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last time that you were on the podcast here, Jeremy, which was a
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few months before the twenty twenty three NFL season started, and you and I
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both I remember the discussion. We both had some concerns as he's coming out
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of Ohio State. We kind of talked about, you know, we know
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how Ohio State quarterbacks have performed in the NFL over the years, But boy,
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did he ever put those concerns to rest during his rookie season. I
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mean, he's not a perfect quarterback as we know by any stretch of the
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imagination here. But I'm wondering where does CJ. Stroud need to work most
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this offseason as he continues to develop. As Texans fans they want to see
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him take that next step as well, where does he need to work the
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most on his game in terms of this offseason here. That's a that's a
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really good question because I don't necessarily have a really good answer for you,
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Jeff. You know I can't. I can't think of a better rookie year
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than CJ could have happened. I really, I really couldn't. I was
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concerned that, you know, the offensive line would you know, not be
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able to support him. They were. I was concerned that the receivers weren't
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good enough for him. They were. I really have like it takes a
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microscope to really look at CJ's game, but I will and find the flaws.
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But I will say this, you know, coming into your second year,
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you don't have that that rookie miss with your game. You know,
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there's a lot there's a whole seasons worth of film now on CJ in the
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NFL that teams did not have to prepare for him. So teams are going
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to be better prepared against CJ this year. And what I will say is
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will he be able to adjust? Will he be able to uh, you
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know, dissect the different looks that defense is given him? Because he was
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able to pass those tests throughout the season. Yes, And That's why I'm
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not too concerned, you know, moving forward. But there is a full
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year of film on CJ. The league knows what they're gonna get, and
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to be honest, there's a target on the Texans now. The Texans were
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overlooked by almost everybody. Yes, a year ago, Yeah, I mean
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who who wasn't, So I would say that the Texans with the target on
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their back now, you know, they're also going to play a tougher schedule
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being a first place team going into the next season, and they'll have games
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against the Chiefs, the Ravens, Uh, They're gonna have to play the
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Lions, you know, the Cowboys. There's there's a lot of tough teams
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on the Texans schedule this upcoming season. So will he be able to take
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that next step, That's something that's to be determined. But if this past
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season had any indication, you know, CJ is going to put the Texans
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in position to qualify for the playoffs and make a run every single year he's
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there. You make a good point in that, you know, everybody,
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of course, including us, we were surprised by where the Texans went overall,
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and we're surprised by the offense I think in general. But now if
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CJ. Stroud is able to get this team in this off you know,
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with the help of Demiico Ryans and the coaching staff into the playoffs. The
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expectation now is you got to get out of that first round. If it
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is the wildcard round, you know, if it is, you know,
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it's getting to the next round. I think that pressure is something that CJ
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Stroud inevitably, It's not gonna be there necessarily during the course of the regular
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season, but come playoff time, Oh boy, Jeremy, he is going
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to have that weight on his shoulders, and how he performs from a leadership
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standpoint at that point is going to be really interesting to see. It really
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will be. Yeah, you know, the Texans, I really you know,
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before the season, I really had no expectations for the Texans. I
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was really just kind of like, you know, I remember our conversation last
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time mine I think I think I think it said like eight or nine wins
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would be the ceiling, and they had ten wins and and a wild card
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went against the Browns. So getting to the AFC Championship would be that next
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step for the Texans, which is still a huge challenge because I still genuinely
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believe that the Chiefs and the Ravens are just a step above everyone else in
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the AFC. So that's the Texans are going to have to get past one
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or both of those teams, you know, to get to where they want
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to go. And I would say, I really don't know if they're there
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yet, and it's gonna take a lot of you know, it's gonna take
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more than just what they currently have to get there. And to be honest
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though, the reason why those teams are where they are not only do they
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have great players all around and it's just a strong roster, you know,
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altogether, but it's the quarterback. You know, will c. J.
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Stroud be able to get to the same level as Lamar as Patrick Mahomes.
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I don't know if he can do that in year two now your four year,
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five years six, maybe we're talking a little bit more about that,
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especially you know when when Lamar and and Mahomes get up in age as well.
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I mean they're also going to be probably in their primes potentially four or
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five years down the line maybe. But so so that's the thing with the
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Texans is they're gonna have to It's just like how it was, you know
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with Brady and Manning and Ben Roethlisberger. Like it's always one of those three
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guys, and CJ just needs to fight for his seat at the table with
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those guys. And if he can do that and he's on pace too,
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if the first year was any indication, then I think it's only a matter
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of time before the Texans, you know, their put themselves in that conversation.
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Yeah, I mean, his development certainly is critical. I mean,
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being a quarterback in the National Football League, the development is absolutely critical to
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future success. But I mean also, I mean here in the Eagles Nation,
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Jeremy, you know, we're consistently talking about building teams through the trenches
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on both the offensive side of the ball and defensive side of the ball.
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So I guess my next question for you would be, how do you assess
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the trenches for the Texans, because that, I think is as equally as
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important as c J. Stroud's development as well. How do you assess where
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the trenches are offensively and defensively for the Texans as they're heading into this new
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NFL year and you know what they may need to do from now until the
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start of the season to continue building those offensive and defensive lines. What are
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your thoughts here, Yeah, you know, the offensive line, we'll start
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there is is pretty set. I would say, you know, Tunsil and
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Howard are your tackles, and they're signed for for a decent while. And
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then you have Jute Scrugs, who the team just drafted. At the center's
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position. Yep, he'll stick there. But then the guards is kind of
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where things get a little uh get dice, Yeah, Shock Mason is going
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to stay where he's at, but left guard position is a little is a
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little dicey, or I should say, because Kenyan Green was supposed to be
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that guy for the Texans this year, he was there. He was their
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first round pick in twenty twenty two, So it was in twenty twenty two
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it Stingley had the number three pick, and then the pick that they used
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with the Browns trade for Shaun Watson, they selected Kenyan Green. Yep.
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And he did not play last season. He was injured during pre season,
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did not play for the Texans, and even before, even in his rookie
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year, did not necessarily show signs of being that like that potential first round
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guard that could you know, be your your guard for five, six,
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seven years. Yep. So there's hope that he could be that, but
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it wouldn't surprise me if the Texans go into the draft and get another interior
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alignment. You know, they did that last year. They drafted two centers.
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They drafted Juice Scrugs in the second round, Jarrett Patterson in the sixth
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round out of Notre Dame. He was He ended up starting for Juice Scrugs
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a bit during the season and performed well. There may be a world where
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he ends up, you know, as a starter on this line somewhere,
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But it wouldn't surprise me at the Texans address the position in the draft as
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well. Yeah, and then when it comes to, you know, the
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defensive side, Sheldon Rankins last year was really strong for the Texans as someone
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that was a one year guy. He's a free agent now and it doesn't
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seem like the Texans will bring him back, only because they did sign fully
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Fatukassi, who could very well end up just being his replacement. But you
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also have Khalil Davis played really well last year and you know, in some
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roles, I honestly think having like the Miko Ryans as the coaches is something
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that I don't want to like overlook necessarily because having him as a front seven
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guys as a middle line by leader of the defense has you know, been
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the defensive coordinator for teams that have gone to Super Bowl and deep into the
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playoffs. You know, having that guy like you could tell that the defense
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was different last year. And it wasn't necessarily the personnel that were a whole
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lot different. No, there were some you know, personnel changes. They
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they brought back a lot of the same people. But the big reason why
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they were as successful as they were because they were coached different and there was
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just a different vibe and different atmosphere and that's huge in the NFL in my
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opinion. So I genuinely think having Damika Ryan's there is crucial for the defense
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and whatever they do on the defensive line, they'll sort it out because they
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have the veterans there. Like you're playing veterans. You're not throwing out young
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guys and asking them to do all this work. You're putting in veteran guys
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that know what they're doing, that are able to play one down, two
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down, three down, whatever you ask of them, and they're able to
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execute. And so now you just got to get some athletic pass crushers like
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will Anderston who they already have and and going you know, sack the quarterback.
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That's what is ultimately going to be. You know, I think the
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biggest difference between this year's team and last year's team is can they go out
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and get strong pass rushers to replace Jonathan Gernard, you know, Ken Will
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Anderson take another step, you know. So if those guys can do that,
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then you're looking at possibly a better version of the Texans. The question
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is, though, is a better version of the Texans a better like going
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to the AFC Championship. Yeah, And with that, I really still have
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a hard time seeing how that can happen. So that like when I tell
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you I could not have had a better season for the Texans, in mind,
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I really couldn't have. And I genuinely think that is still the ceiling
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for the Texans, and but there there is more expectation that they will hit
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that ceiling this year because of what they did in twenty twenty three. Absolutely,
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and it's a good segue, I think into what this team needs to
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do for the draft, because it's my understanding the Texans have eight draft picks
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coming up here, none in the fifth or the sixth rounds. But I
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believe they have the number twenty three pick overall, if I'm remembering that correctly.
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You know, as this team pick yeah, yep, as this team
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begins to build Jeremy and continue I should say, continues to build. They're
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not, They've already been building here, but as they want to continue building.
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You mentioned the pass rush. I can see that number twenty three pick
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possibly being a defensive end or just a pass rusher that they know is going
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to be able to hit the ground running on Day one. But like,
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from an overall perspective, how do you see this upcoming NFL draft taking shape
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for Houston here? I could see them trading down honestly, y three if
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there's not a whole like, I doubt that they're gonna move up. Like.
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I just don't see that for the Texans. But what I do see
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is I do see a pass rusher on either Day one or Day two.
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Perhaps a receiver as well at some point, though they did get they did
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basically have three rookie receivers last year. If you want to count John Metchi
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as a rookie, he was. He was the second round pick the previous
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year, but didn't play that rookie year for cancer. And then you had
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Xavier Hutchinson, who was a sixth round pick. You know, he was
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brought in and he he he played some snaps on off like he was a
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backup, and there's a decent chance that he'll be part of the team this
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year as well. I don't foresee him being a starter and taking over some
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of the starters on the team. But receiver running back is also an important
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position for them. You know, Joe Mixon is there now, Damian Pierce
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is the second string, but you know, will they be able to find
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a third string Maybe they can find a guy on Day three that can possibly
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you know, take over once Joe Mixon leaves after a year. I really
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don't see Joe Mixon lasting more than a year with this offense. So yeah,
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I would say just go out and get guys that can a be special
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teams contributors and be Stephan if needed. But yeah, if they if they
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want to go out and really start off this draft with the strong start,
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I think pass rushes is definitely the way to go. Also, cornerback.
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Cornerback is another position I could see them going in. Derek Singley is your
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is your CV one, but Steven Nelson as a free agent. If they
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don't go out and get you know, they don't bring Steven Nelson back for
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whatever reason. You know, I could definitely see corner being another option as
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well. They did sign Jeff Okuda, that someone we haven't mentioned yet,
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but he's not someone that I think the Texans are counting on to be a
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cornerback too. I think they're looking him as more of a slot guy,
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cornerback three or four on the roster, So I would say cornerback, defensive
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end on the first two day in the first two picks, yep, either
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or, and then you go into your alignment running back receiver. All right,
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very good. I think it's going to be interesting to follow this this
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NFL team. They really are very very interesting. And again, folks,
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Jeremy Brenner from SB Nation and fan Nation, give him a follow over on
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Twitter slash x at Jeremy Brenner. He is a great, great follow my
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friend, thank you so much for taking the time to join us here on
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our Opposition Territory pod this week. I'd love to talk to you again down
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the road, my friend. Absolutely, Jeff, thank you. It really
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is going to be interesting to see where this Houston Texans team goes in the
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future. It was really great talking to Jeremy about the philosophical direction that the
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Texans are going to be heading in over the course of this next season and
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even into the future as well. Look, a lot of movement has been
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happening in the NFL as it pertains to free agency. Look at the running
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back position. My gosh, the amount of running backs that are going from
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team to team. You know, the Eagles getting Saquon Barkley. You have
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Derrick Henry signing today with the Baltimore Ravens, Devin Singletary going to the Giants.
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There's just so much movement everywhere with regard to the running back position.
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And you know what does that mean specifically here to the Houston Texans as we
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know they've got a new running back as well. So, boy, I
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gotta tell you, it's gonna be fun to follow this NFL season throughout the
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course of this offseason. As we've got free agency here, the NFL Draft
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is we're gonna be right around the corner. It's gonna be here before we
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know it. Can't wait to get into that more here on this podcast platform.
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But that's gonna do it for us folks here on Opposition Territory. You
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