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Lunch with the Clydesdale - We Need to Give WFP Some Time · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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It's lunchtime, everybody.
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What is going on?
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Lunch with Clydesdale live every day.
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Twelve fifteen Eastern Time.
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Here we are.
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I'm going to throw a dart.
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I've been missing it a
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little bit for the last couple of days.
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I might throw a couple
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because I'm tired of missing.
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So I'm going to I'm going to hone it in.
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Let's see what we got.
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Weak sauce to the right.
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Oh man, it's getting worse.
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I need to give it up.
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That just needs to be a Dave thing.
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I need to give it up.
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I used to be good at darts.
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I used to be good at darts.
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I was a bouncer.
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I was a bartender.
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We played darts all the time.
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I, uh,
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yeah I don't know there it
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is jay birch live from okc
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and tfx uh sarah cooper
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says do we know if tfx is
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streaming anywhere if not
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I'll call jay birch he'll
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take out his cell phone uh
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he can get the live shot
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from the lane he's judging
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in and uh we'll stream that
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how about that I have not
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heard about streaming um
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TFX does not stream ever.
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So... Yeah,
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why would you have... Why would
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you have Chase and Angelo
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commentating if there's no stream?
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They'd just be talking into air.
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So I'm assuming there's got
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to be some kind of stream somewhere.
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But yeah, I don't know.
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You got to hope...
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You wouldn't waste getting.
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And I know Lauren Khalil is
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going to be doing it as well.
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So there's three people
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they've hired to do the announcing.
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I would hope that they have
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a stream to at least for us to hear them.
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Maybe it's a radio broadcast.
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Maybe that's something new and innovative.
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We're going to try.
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Jay Birch says the camera in
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the lane might be frowned upon.
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Yeah, yeah.
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would say so we actually had
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a problem at my old
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affiliate uh during the
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open where a judge the
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judges would pull out a
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camera and um video or take
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pictures of the athlete
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they were judging uh
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because it was their friend
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or or whatever because it's
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in the affiliate none of
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them are going to the games
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but we actually had to have
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like a sit down and say listen
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if you want to take pictures
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and video maybe don't judge
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when your friend's going
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and uh because it's really
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hard to keep count while
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you're videoing or taking a
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picture so um yeah
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There is supposed to be a
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stream from what I hear.
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There we go.
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Jay Burch has heard it.
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It makes sense there has to
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be if they hired those
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three to do commentating.
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Why would you hire them if
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there's not going to be
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anything going on?
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Sarah says we can ask GWTP later today.
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Get with the programming?
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Sure.
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Chase would know, I'm assuming.
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And Corey's saying the same.
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They'd bet damn well better be streaming.
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They got Chase and Angelo.
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So, yeah, I hope so.
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I'd like to know what's going on there.
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I'm going to circle back
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around to that for a second.
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But first thing I want to
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let you guys know is I'm
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going to have Justin Kotler
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on tonight at six p.m.
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Eastern time to talk about
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what it was like for the
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coaches at the World Fitness Project,
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plus his plans with Alex
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and Mano Anganese and what
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their plans are going forward.
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So we're going to have Justin on tonight,
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six p.m.
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Eastern time.
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To see what that was all about.
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I did watch the training
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think tank review of the WFP as well.
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And I thought they brought
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up some really good
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insights and some good suggestions.
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So I might use some of what
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they were saying to talk to Justin.
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I don't even have show notes for tonight.
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And I have some appointments
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this afternoon.
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So it may just be a conversation.
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We'll see where it goes.
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And if people are in the chat,
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we'll let them ask
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questions as well of Justin
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as to how it goes.
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But Alex won.
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His athlete won the first WFP.
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Mano Anganese is still trying to qualify.
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Alex is still trying to
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qualify for the CrossFit Games.
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Alex is putting all of her
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eggs in the NorCal basket.
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So it's going to be
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interesting to see what
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happens over the course of
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the next few weeks for them.
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Yeah.
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Yes.
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Those usually turn out to be
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the best interviews.
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I actually, I, I pretty regular,
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like I don't,
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I can probably on one hand
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have the number,
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the number of interviews
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I've done without show notes.
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And really I just have them just in case.
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my plan going into an
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interview is just to have a
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conversation and then I
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have the show notes just
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just in case just in case
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there's a lull in the
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conversation and I've got
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to go look for something
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else to talk about but
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generally my best
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interviews are when I never
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ever have to look at them
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and we just kind of chat
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about what's going on
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So again, tonight, six PM Eastern time,
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Justin Kotler underdog athletics.
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We will chat with him a little bit.
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So I've got a couple of things I want to,
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I want to talk about a
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little bit and I think I'll
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do it this way.
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TFX is this weekend.
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We've got some people hunting for their,
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their tickets to the CrossFit games,
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but this,
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this is what I kind of want to ask.
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Um,
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Uh, I don't, this is where I,
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I lean a little bit to the
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WFP and some comparison
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stuff is because of the way
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that the season structure
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is built in CrossFit.
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I don't feel like we're
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getting the best athletes
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to the games this year.
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Now you can go to mayhem and
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you can see Austin and
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Colton and Abby and fee, um,
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and and those are those are
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games caliber athletes for
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sure but you go to like the
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french throwdown you go to
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um wadland fest you go to
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brazil uh copa sir I'm not
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sure we're getting the best
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uh to the games and um I
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think it's the way the
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season is structured
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that we have all these
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multiple ways of people
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kind of getting into the CrossFit games.
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And I just don't think it's
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turning out to be a system
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that's working.
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When you cut the field down
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to thirty people,
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you need the best thirty
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people at the games.
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You need people who can
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impact the leaderboard from
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all thirty positions.
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to make it a good competition,
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to make it fun to watch,
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to make it interesting.
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And I just don't think that's happening.
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I love Bronislaw Alinkowitz.
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I think he's a really cool dude.
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I think he's super strong.
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But you can't tell me he's
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one of the best thirty men in the world.
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And he won the French Throwdown.
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So...
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I just think it's muddying
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the waters a little bit,
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the way the season is structured,
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because you can get in by A,
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you can get in by B,
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and we'll talk about that
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you can even get in by C now.
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So I don't... I just...
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And it's part of the reason
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that I think that the WFP
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actually has a chance
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because CrossFit keeps
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messing around with all
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these ways to qualify and
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making it more and more
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complicated and convoluted.
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And now at the end of the day,
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I don't think we're getting
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the best thirty athletes to the games.
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And so if we're not getting
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the best thirty athletes to the games,
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then there's something
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wrong with the design of
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the system in qualifying.
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And yeah, I mean, and then,
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then you have things like
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Guy is going to Torian for what?
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He's not, he,
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he can't qualify for the games.
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He chose not to do the
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CrossFit game season yet.
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He's going to go to Torian
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and mess up the leaderboard
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with a couple of good heavy lifts,
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a couple of good events and
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jack up the leaderboard at
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Torian for what?
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For what?
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I don't understand.
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Elisa Fuliano podiums at two.
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Both the European events
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would have qualified for
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the games out of both of them,
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but because she's not doing the season,
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she just mucked up the
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leaderboard so that the
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people who are trying to
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qualify can't do that.
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It just...
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I don't know.
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This whole thing of, like,
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allowing these third-party
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entities to make up their
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own rules and keep them
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regional and all that stuff
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is just preventing the people,
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the best people,
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from making it to the games.
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Yeah.
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I think those events, Andrew Stan,
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I think those events are
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getting the best athletes
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from those regions.
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Unfortunately,
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those athletes are not the
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same level as athletes from
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the U S Europe, Australia,
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for whatever reason.
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I also think like the
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European semifinals have
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been very biased to heavy lifting.
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And that's why Bronislaw
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Alinkowitz is going to the
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CrossFit games.
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Um,
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Andrew follows up,
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I left a comment for Dave
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on his week in review about
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constantly changing
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qualification process.
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His answer was not satisfying.
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Yeah, I watched that, Andrew,
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and his answer was
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something to the effect of, well,
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the reason we change it is
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to make it better.
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And I don't think this year
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is better in any way.
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Now,
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is it better fiscally and financially
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because you have given up
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control over everything in
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the qualification process?
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No.
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That may be better,
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the financial fiscal bottom line,
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but I don't think we're
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going to get the best
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athletes to the games.
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And in a year where there's
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other competition,
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this is the year where
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people need to compete.
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CrossFit needs to compete.
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They need to put their best
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foot forward to show they
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are the dominant entity in the sport.
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It doesn't matter if he doesn't go.
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He chose not to for financial reasons,
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but now he is making it to
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Torian somehow.
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I know.
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Ah,
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did some of the top athletes choose not
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to do the season?
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Maybe that's why there's a
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handful of people who chose
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not to do the season.
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And I,
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but I don't think that's why we're
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not getting the best.
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Um,
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The names out of Brazil,
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I can't even tell you what the names are.
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They're not even the typical people.
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Other than Kalen Souza,
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who qualified on the men's side,
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I couldn't even name the
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other three at all.
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It's not even the typical
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people that are the best
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from that region.
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It's just a weird,
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wacky process this year
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that I just don't think is
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working at all.
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thought he wanted to compete
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in brazil wasn't that the
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whole post of his about
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being at home and he didn't
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compete at brazil so he
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competed at he competed at
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mayhem and he's competing
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at torian um but I don't
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know uh those events should
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have a separate leaderboard
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for the money and the
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game's qualification
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one for the money one for
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the games qualification I
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think is what Andrew's
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saying I don't disagree
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with that but man make talk
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about complicated now we're
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really getting complicated
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in the way the season looks
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uh uh from what I heard
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Ricky and Jay are also doing Torian
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because they're allowed, like I get it.
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That's their home country there.
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And they can,
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they can compete in front of
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their home fans.
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I still don't like it.
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If,
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since they already have a spot to the
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games, they don't need to qualify.
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But I, I'm,
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I'm sure they're going to be
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allowed because they're
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going to be a draw.
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I just wish, I just wish it would,
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the season would make more sense.
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Corey says,
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who are the people you think
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should be going that aren't?
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I don't know yet.
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I don't know what the field is.
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But I'm telling you,
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if spots are being taken up
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by three people out of South America,
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they don't know their names.
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And someone like Braun,
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who is thirty seven years
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old and who hasn't been
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able to make the games for years.
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We're not sending the right people.
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So those spots are being
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taken up by people that are
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qualifying when there are
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other people that,
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that should be able to be,
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to qualify instead.
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Uh, Andrew says, no,
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you exclude the people who
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can't qualify for the games
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from the one leaderboard.
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That way their scores don't
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affect the athletes who are eligible.
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I understand what you're
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saying completely.
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It's just,
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you have two leaderboards and
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you have to explain it.
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Um, that's all it just,
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it adds a complication.
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Um,
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I mean, I just miss the days of a clean.
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These are the people going
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for their shot at the games,
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and either they qualify or they don't.
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The top X number do.
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Now we don't have that anymore.
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We have, well,
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this person didn't finish top one percent,
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or this person didn't even
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sign up for the Open,
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or this person chose not to
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do the season.
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And then whatever's left,
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they're down here mixed in.
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Yeah, it's a mess.
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The other topic I wanted to
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throw out to you guys today is all week.
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I've heard people comparing
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WFP to the CrossFit games,
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which I think is completely,
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completely unfair.
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The WFP tour stop one was
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the first step of their
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season and the way their
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season is structured.
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You don't know the story of
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the season until it plays out.
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So people were like,
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I didn't see the emotion.
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I didn't see the blood that
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I see when people qualify
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for the CrossFit Games.
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Well, no,
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because the qualification for the
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championships hasn't even
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happened yet with the WFP.
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They're building that
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storyline up with a system
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of points that then will
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qualify people for the
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championships of the WFP.
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Now, do I think in year one,
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the WFP is going to hold a
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candle to what the CrossFit
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Games means to athletes?
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No, but it's year one.
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It's year one.
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We have to see it play out.
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We have to see what the
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points leaderboard looks
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like in the future.
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And even through a full season this year,
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if they add more events,
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it's going to make it even bigger.
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more crucial about the
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points race throughout the season.
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And you're going to see
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storylines play out that
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you don't see in this weird
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convoluted CrossFit game season.
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And I'm not putting my money
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behind either horse.
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I just think that we have to
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let them have their
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opportunity to show the
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entire thing and how it's
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going to play out and how
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the storylines are going to
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play out before we start
18:20
making final decisions as
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to this one is way better than this one.
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there's no way that an
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entity coming in in year
18:29
one is going to hold the
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prestige and the honor that
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the CrossFit Games have
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established over fifteen
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years or twenty years now.
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We need to see what happens
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through a couple seasons of
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the WFP and see if that
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actually becomes something
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a little bit more
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fun to watch and makes it um
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easier to understand and
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that people are excited
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about playing in the
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championship like the fedex
19:02
cup and golf didn't happen
19:05
until a handful of years
19:06
ago and now it is like the
19:08
biggest thing you're trying
19:09
to earn your points to
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qualify for the fedex cup
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so you can play for the
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championship of championships um
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And that's I think what
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World Fitness Project is
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trying to accomplish.
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But you can't see that until
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it's played out over a couple of events.
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Halpin says, this is a sanctional model.
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There were athletes
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competing and winning
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competitions from two
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thousand nineteen and
19:44
twenty that had no way of
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going to the games.
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I agree with you.
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I am not.
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I did not like the only
19:52
difference about the sanctional model.
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And this is a sanctional model.
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I qualified more athletes to
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the games so they could be
19:59
weeded out through cuts.
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So you had the better
20:01
athletes at the end of the weekend.
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i.e roman qualifying year
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over year after with no
20:11
shot at a visa I get it
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okay but but by that same
20:23
logic those dudes at the
20:24
french throwdown had every
20:25
opportunity to beat braun
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and they didn't he won
20:28
seventy eight years old or not
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My issue with the French
20:32
throwdown is they
20:33
restricted who could sign
20:35
up for the event.
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They had to have X number of
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French athletes.
20:40
It had to have X number of
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European athletes.
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And so when the field is
20:45
taken up with all of that,
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it's hard to get people who may deserve,
20:51
who may be better athletes at football.
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better athletes could not
20:58
jump into that lineup to do
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that plus it was the same
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weekend as wfp and that was
21:02
a competition um but brazil
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was not and brazil was
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restricted just to south
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american central and south
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american countries d reed
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says corey don't hate on
21:16
the old guys uh it was me
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it was me doug I'm the one
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who uh hated on the old
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guys first he's just
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jumping on my bandwagon
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Andrew Sten,
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my biggest worry with the WFP
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is they are trying to be too big,
21:33
too quick, and they flame out.
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They need to build and not
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just expect people to show
21:37
up because the people that are there.
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I don't think that they...
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I would hope that they don't
21:45
think that that is the case.
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I think they're just trying
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to show what is possible
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and they're trying to do
21:51
things in a way that are
21:52
different and better and in their,
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in their eyes.
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And maybe some of this stuff
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that we saw this weekend
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was just a trial and maybe
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we're not going to see it
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at tour stop too.
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I don't know, but, um,
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But to me,
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if you don't have storytelling
22:08
with what's going on,
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you're not going to get
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people showing up.
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So people are going to have
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to start understanding the
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point system and what
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stories those are telling
22:16
for people to show up and
22:19
to spectate those events.
22:24
T-Bird, it is media,
22:25
not you and people comparing the two,
22:27
not CrossFit or WFP.
22:29
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
22:30
I'm just happy to see more
22:32
competitions and know the
22:33
difference between the games and the WFP.
22:36
Where I disagree with you a little bit,
22:38
T-Bird,
22:39
is that I want it to be a competition.
22:43
I want it to be between the two of them.
22:45
I want them to get better
22:47
because they have to
22:48
compete against each other
22:49
and things get better.
22:52
When CrossFit has had no competition,
22:54
they have not made changes
22:56
that make sense to make a
22:58
better product that goes
23:00
out on the floor.
23:02
I am hopeful that with these two competing,
23:05
that it will force both of
23:07
them to put their best foot
23:09
forward to make the best
23:10
product that they can out on the floor.
23:14
That's what I want.
23:16
And either the strongest
23:18
survives or they combine
23:21
and decide to do something together.
23:30
Andrew Sten says,
23:31
they did such a bad job
23:32
with the community event there.
23:33
This was a bad look for them.
23:36
Again, it was their first attempt.
23:39
But I do agree,
23:39
hiding them in the back
23:40
corner probably isn't the
23:41
best way to go about things.
23:49
Uh...
23:58
I don't think they had the
23:59
expectation that people
24:00
were going to show up.
24:00
They were excited.
24:01
They sold a few hundred
24:03
tickets two days before the comp started.
24:09
To try to guess what their
24:10
expectations are is unfair to them.
24:13
We don't know their budget.
24:15
We don't know the money source.
24:17
We don't know what their expectations are.
24:20
We need to see it play out.
24:23
And that's all I'm saying is
24:24
let it play out before you
24:26
start making comparisons.
24:27
But to compare like Tour
24:29
Stop One to the CrossFit
24:30
Games isn't even comparing
24:32
apples to apples.
24:40
Denise Moore,
24:41
I almost want to travel to
24:42
Arizona to watch it in person.
24:44
I am with you.
24:45
I'm actually...
24:46
thinking about trying to get
24:48
out to Mesa for that one
24:50
but it's right around the
24:51
same time as the age group
24:52
CrossFit games and I'm not
24:54
going to give up the age
24:55
group CrossFit games for
24:57
that um so there you go uh
25:08
t-bird did anyone see tef
25:09
review of WFP I think Sean
25:10
was way off on some things
25:12
seems to have changed his
25:13
tune on CrossFit all of a sudden
25:28
Yeah,
25:32
I help in first attempt and not to
25:34
compare,
25:34
but what did age groups coverage
25:37
look like at the games in
25:38
twenty twenty three?
25:39
Pathetic.
25:41
Last year, the age group did great.
25:48
He also says Denise,
25:49
it's amazing in person.
25:53
James,
25:54
criticisms of WFP after a single
25:56
event are wild.
25:57
CrossFit has been putting on
25:58
the games for nearly twenty
25:59
years and have constant
26:00
issues that should have
26:02
been worked out by now.
26:03
Let's give WFP some time.
26:05
Amen, brother.
26:06
I've been saying that all week.
26:08
For years,
26:09
I have been critical of what the
26:11
games has done.
26:15
And that they need to improve,
26:16
and they've done nothing to do that.
26:19
And now they need someone to
26:20
compete against them to
26:21
push them in the right direction.
26:25
And either they're going to
26:26
change or they're going to die off.
26:29
That's just the way the
26:31
things work in this world.
26:35
Blockbuster Netflix.
26:38
Blockbuster refused to
26:39
change with the times.
26:42
So instead of comparing to other sports,
26:44
I'll do that.
26:45
I'll compare it to a business situation.
27:00
The WFP deserves every ounce of criticism.
27:02
The way they went about
27:04
things pissed off CrossFit supporters.
27:07
I don't understand why you
27:07
have to pick one side or the other.
27:10
I don't get it.
27:14
Like, they can learn from one another,
27:16
and they can get better,
27:17
and maybe one outlasts the other, but...
27:24
I've said on the show thousands of times,
27:27
CrossFit saved my life.
27:28
Without it, I'd be dead today.
27:31
If you don't know my story,
27:33
I started at five hundred
27:34
pounds in two thousand eleven.
27:35
I am weighing under five
27:37
hundred pounds now and I'm
27:38
still alive and I owe
27:41
CrossFit all of that.
27:44
what is but when it comes to
27:46
the sport crossfit has been
27:48
screwing the pooch for
27:49
years they don't have a
27:51
system that is easy to
27:53
explain to my friends or to
27:55
show people or to um make a
27:59
viewable attempt at things
28:01
they don't change year
28:02
after year and they need
28:04
competition to push them in
28:05
a more creative and better situation
28:20
maybe people mean because
28:22
WFP stole some athletes
28:24
from the CrossFit game
28:24
season Laura Laura and Emma
28:30
Tall I think is I think
28:32
those are the only athletes
28:33
that that chose just to do
28:35
the WFP season oh Pat
28:37
Vellner I don't know
28:51
Nothing gets better if it's
28:52
not looked at critically.
28:53
There's nothing wrong with
28:54
critiquing an event.
28:56
I agree.
28:57
We've been critical of
28:58
CrossFit and it seems like
29:00
WFP came around and we
29:00
forgot about all the
29:01
criticisms we've been
29:02
saying about CrossFit.
29:04
And now we're just saying
29:06
they're always the best and they are like,
29:08
did we not forget?
29:09
Eighteen months ago,
29:10
we've been we were bitching
29:11
about the seasons that
29:12
CrossFit was putting together.
29:18
that's what's,
29:19
that's what's boggling my mind.
29:30
Sarah Cooper.
29:31
I don't think Elisa Fuliano
29:32
would have done, or she's not doing WFP.
29:35
Like she's not doing any of them.
29:38
Uh,
29:39
Emily dropped out because she's hurt her.
29:42
She hurt her back and it's
29:45
either rested or she's not
29:47
going to have a shot at anything.
29:49
Um,
29:49
and she's going to try to do NorCal to
29:52
qualify for the CrossFit games,
29:53
but she needs to rest it
29:55
for a few weeks to be able to do so.
29:59
Um,
30:01
Alex is risking it, but I know that she,
30:04
and maybe I'll get this out
30:05
of Justin tonight,
30:06
I know she was fighting
30:07
with a shoulder injury
30:08
earlier in the season.
30:10
She won this weekend,
30:12
and maybe her shoulder
30:12
isn't up to being able to
30:14
take back-to-back weeks,
30:15
and that's why they had to
30:17
go with NorCal and the WFP.
30:21
So I don't think she's
30:22
picked anything yet.
30:27
So I don't know.
30:37
uh meredith yeah I don't
30:39
know for the overt
30:40
negativity or refusing to
30:41
even mention the name wfp
30:43
seems immature uh and we
30:52
can't uh control what
30:53
people assume or perceive
30:56
yeah I in all honesty I
30:59
want crossfit to get better
31:01
I have followed this sport.
31:03
I've been a volunteer in the
31:04
sport since two thousand thirteen.
31:06
I've been to regionals and
31:08
sanctionals and all of the
31:10
stuff up to through the
31:11
games for years and years and years.
31:15
I don't want to stop doing that.
31:17
But I but they're not
31:19
changing and they're not getting better.
31:22
We need something to push them.
31:36
So, Doug, I care about both.
31:51
I don't think the
31:52
methodology is going anywhere.
31:57
Um,
32:01
it's it's the greatest way
32:03
of fitnessing in my opinion
32:04
that's out there and I
32:07
don't think it's going
32:07
anywhere but when we're
32:09
talking about the sport I
32:22
know a lot of people say
32:23
word salad I don't think that
32:29
I think word salad is the
32:32
new way of speaking for
32:34
people in this day and age.
32:36
I work for state government.
32:39
I hear directors and
32:42
senators and congressmen and governors.
32:45
It's all word salad, man.
32:46
Every single day of my life is word salad.
32:49
It's just the way the world
32:50
is working now.
32:52
And I don't think that
32:55
The public persona of Will
32:58
and Jackson are maybe the
33:00
best faces of what WFP are.
33:04
I don't think they have a
33:06
lot of experience in front
33:07
of a camera or on a live
33:08
show doing interviews.
33:11
And so I think they get
33:12
nervous and confused at times.
33:19
Just my opinion.
33:25
So.
33:28
Yes, Halpin.
33:30
Hiller showed up at WFP on
33:32
Sunday at some point.
33:34
I didn't know the day.
33:35
I guess it was Sunday.
33:37
But he actually said in
33:38
person it was really well done.
33:40
His only thing is it had to
33:41
have cost a lot of money
33:42
with what they had done and
33:44
doesn't see that it can be
33:46
sustainable at that level.
33:52
And he may be right.
33:53
I don't know the money
33:54
they're working with and I
33:55
don't pretend to know.
33:57
I would just assume if
33:59
you're putting this forward,
34:02
you're not doing it to lose
34:03
money year over year and
34:05
you're trying to find a way
34:06
to make money.
34:07
So you got to trust that they have a plan.
34:22
so yeah corey and that's a
34:26
number that gets thrown
34:27
around but I don't know
34:28
that for a fact I have no
34:31
idea if that's true or not
34:39
and if I'm a private
34:40
company and I'm doing
34:40
something the last thing
34:42
I'm showing the public is
34:43
my are my books so
34:56
Sarah says exactly Corey
34:57
Saxon didn't seem to give
34:59
straight answers.
35:00
I think he has a tougher job
35:01
than the other two.
35:02
I think what they're doing
35:03
with the affiliate model,
35:05
their affiliate model and
35:06
their community outreach is
35:10
much more... I don't know.
35:20
Much more...
35:21
across the line shady than
35:24
what the sport is doing I'm
35:26
just talking about the
35:27
sport I don't know what's
35:29
going on with this
35:30
community piece that
35:31
they're doing in affiliates
35:33
and I don't know enough to
35:34
talk education educated
35:36
enough about it to make any sense
35:45
potential buyers of the book.
35:46
I'm talking about WFP.
35:48
WFP is not up for sale.
35:50
So nobody has seen those books.
35:52
Nobody really knows what's going on there.
35:55
And if I'm the WFP,
35:56
I'm not showing it to anybody.
35:58
Nobody needs to know what my
35:59
financials are.
36:01
I'm just putting forward this sport,
36:04
this thing,
36:06
and it's up to me to budget it
36:09
and make sure that the money lasts.
36:18
T-Bird asks, aren't they like High Rocks?
36:20
You can still be CrossFit, High Rocks,
36:22
et cetera, and a WFP affiliate.
36:24
You don't have to choose.
36:27
I wish there was a straight
36:28
answer to this question
36:29
because I believe Saxon was
36:30
asked this outright,
36:32
and I believe he said you could.
36:36
I just,
36:37
it didn't seem like a complete answer.
36:40
Back to what Sarah and Corey
36:42
are saying earlier in the chat.
36:46
And again, I am for supporting the sport.
36:49
I don't know what the
36:50
affiliate piece means for them.
37:06
So, last thing I want to talk about,
37:09
and then I have to get
37:10
going because I have some
37:10
appointments this afternoon,
37:12
and that is...
37:21
Last chance qualifier was announced.
37:25
We finally have the details
37:26
of the last chance qualifier.
37:28
They're happening June
37:29
twelfth to the sixteenth.
37:31
Final opportunity to get a
37:32
spot at the CrossFit Games.
37:34
Who's in the top fifty non
37:36
games qualifying athletes
37:37
from the in affiliate
37:38
semifinals and the top ten
37:40
non games qualifying
37:42
athletes from each in person qualifier.
37:45
That is a lot of people.
37:49
Exact leaderboard positions
37:51
may vary depending on
37:52
previous qualifications.
37:53
All athletes must have
37:54
placed in the top one
37:54
percent of the twenty
37:55
twenty five open to be eligible.
37:58
Eligible athletes will
37:59
receive an official email
38:00
invitation from Hustle Up.
38:03
No second chances, no excuses.
38:04
Earn your place.
38:08
what I don't understand with
38:09
this is we've already had an open,
38:12
we've already had an in
38:13
affiliate semifinal,
38:15
and now we're having a
38:16
third online competition to
38:18
get the last one person into the games.
38:25
Like just rinse and repeat,
38:26
rinse and repeat.
38:27
They've already competed
38:28
against each other two times.
38:31
And now we're going to ask
38:32
them to compete against
38:33
each other for a third time.
38:35
That makes absolutely no freaking sense.
38:40
And these are the things
38:41
that I'm telling you that
38:42
we have bitched about for
38:44
years and seem to forget
38:46
about now that WFP is
38:47
around and we want to be
38:49
full on support of CrossFit.
38:51
They've got to start doing better.
38:54
They've got to start doing better.
38:57
This is absolutely absurd.
39:00
And yes, it's about the money.
39:05
You got to sign up.
39:06
You got to pay your fee for one op.
39:09
If that's going to be like a
39:10
hundred and some athletes
39:12
and they're going to have,
39:15
and they're going to have
39:16
one open spot to, to compete for.
39:20
It's absurd.
39:20
It's absurd.
39:32
And speaking of no community coverage,
39:34
it's the same week as a community cup,
39:35
which is also an affiliates.
39:37
They just overshadowed their
39:38
own community event.
39:42
There it is.
39:46
That's what I'm saying.
39:47
People, if WFP didn't exist,
39:51
we would be bitching about
39:52
the way this season looks
39:54
that CrossFit has put forward.
39:59
Now WFP is here and all of a
40:00
sudden we're going to defend the gates.
40:05
How about look in the mirror
40:06
and get better?
40:09
I want CrossFit to get better.
40:14
I'm not saying I want WFP to
40:16
take over the world or
40:17
anything like that.
40:18
I want CrossFit to get better.
40:20
I want both to be good.
40:26
On that note,
40:29
Time to get back to work,
40:30
you knuckleheads.
40:32
We'll see everybody next time.
40:34
Well, join me tonight, Justin Kotler,
40:36
six p.m.
40:37
Eastern time on the show,
40:39
talking about the WFP, Alex Kazan,
40:42
Mano Anganese.
40:44
And then I'll be back
40:45
tomorrow with another lunch show.
40:46
With that, guys,
40:47
we'll see everybody next
40:48
time on Lunch with the Clydesdale.