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- 0:28Speaker 1: to talk about David Gabriel, George five star running back
- 0:31Speaker 1: who will be announcing his college decision on Wednesday. We
- 0:35Speaker 1: are going to make our final call on where he
- 0:38Speaker 1: is going to be. I'm going to welcome in Juck Maletti,
- 0:40Speaker 1: the recruiting insider for Buckeye Insiders dot com. Juck, this
- 0:44Speaker 1: is a recruitment that Ohio State has been chasing very
- 0:47Speaker 1: very hard for as long as they possibly can, and
- 0:50Speaker 1: now we're finally coming to the end of that process.
- 0:54Speaker 1: He's announcing on Wednesday. My senses Ohio State is not
- 0:58Speaker 1: going to get the answer that they were hoping for.
- 1:02Speaker 2: I feel the same sentiment, Tom, and it's one of
- 1:07Speaker 2: those things, in my opinion, that was kind of a
- 1:10Speaker 2: miscalculation on Ohio State's part where they looked at last
- 1:13Speaker 2: cycle with the top backs of the class and Sabian
- 1:17Speaker 2: Hyder Derek Cooper roughly getting about eight hundred thousand dollars deals,
- 1:22Speaker 2: and they said to themselves, are we going to stop
- 1:25Speaker 2: recruiting these guys and go all in for David Gabriel
- 1:28Speaker 2: George next year, knowing full well probably going to cost
- 1:31Speaker 2: us over a million dollars for a running back. They
- 1:34Speaker 2: thought long and hard about it, and they said, I
- 1:37Speaker 2: think it's worth it, and that's what they decided to do. Now,
- 1:41Speaker 2: the miscalculation I believe happened was they thought that it
- 1:47Speaker 2: would be over a million dollars, and it turns out
- 1:50Speaker 2: the guy they were going up against wasn't bidding against
- 1:53Speaker 2: Ohio State. Tennessee was bidding against Tennessee's future. And it
- 1:58Speaker 2: certainly seems like from the time David Gabriel George left
- 2:02Speaker 2: his Ohio State official visit and went to his Tennessee
- 2:04Speaker 2: official visit. Tennessee didn't care what Ohio State had on
- 2:08Speaker 2: the table. They immediately doubled it. It was right then
- 2:11Speaker 2: that day they came with a two million dollar offer,
- 2:14Speaker 2: and ever since then, more perks and benefits have been
- 2:17Speaker 2: leaking from that offer. And that's the kind of stuff
- 2:20Speaker 2: that Ohio State doesn't get in the muck with. Now
- 2:23Speaker 2: you can look at this and say, Ohio State knew
- 2:26Speaker 2: that's how Tennessee was going to play this because they
- 2:29Speaker 2: just did this with David Sanders. They already knew ahead
- 2:31Speaker 2: of time. So why get involved in a head to
- 2:34Speaker 2: head with these guys. If you know that's the way
- 2:36Speaker 2: they're going to operate, you can't cry about it later
- 2:38Speaker 2: and say, well, they are offering private jets. We know
- 2:41Speaker 2: this is how they operate, and some people are going
- 2:44Speaker 2: to be bitter about that and say, Ohio State had
- 2:46Speaker 2: some egg on their face at the end of this,
- 2:49Speaker 2: but they took a swing. And the big picture is
- 2:52Speaker 2: this class has the best offensive and defensive line class
- 2:56Speaker 2: combination we've seen in the modern recruiting era. And I
- 2:59Speaker 2: don't think anybody would trade this Ohio State class for
- 3:02Speaker 2: the Tennessee class with David Gabriel George, which has seven
- 3:06Speaker 2: four stars and ten three stars. I certainly wouldn't.
- 3:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked at the recruiting rankings and this is
- 3:13Speaker 1: before David Gabriel George commits. But Tennessee right now is
- 3:18Speaker 1: right behind Minnesota in the class rankings, and Minnesota has
- 3:21Speaker 1: a lot more players committed, but in terms of average
- 3:24Speaker 1: star rating, Tennessee is kind of behind South Carolina right now,
- 3:27Speaker 1: around Missouri right now. So you know, this is a
- 3:31Speaker 1: team where and you know, the Tennessee people watching this
- 3:34Speaker 1: are going to say, you know, oh, this is sour grapes,
- 3:37Speaker 1: But if you're Ohio state, you'd much rather have David
- 3:40Speaker 1: Gabriel George at Tennessee than somewhere like Georgia or somewhere
- 3:45Speaker 1: like Notre Dame or somewhere like that. Just this is,
- 3:49Speaker 1: you know, this is Tennessee trying to get over the hump,
- 3:52Speaker 1: and they haven't gotten over the hump yet. And I
- 3:54Speaker 1: think I think Tennessee thought they were going to get
- 3:56Speaker 1: over the hump two years ago and very much did
- 3:58Speaker 1: not in Columbus, Ohio in December of twenty twenty four.
- 4:00Speaker 1: So you know, is this the thing that makes the
- 4:02Speaker 1: difference and finally gets them over the hump and turns
- 4:05Speaker 1: them into a legitimate national championship contender. We'll see. The
- 4:09Speaker 1: next question is, okay, assuming he does go to Tennessee,
- 4:13Speaker 1: what next for Ohio State? Because they took favor Aki
- 4:16Speaker 1: last year, they took Legend Bay last year. And you know,
- 4:19Speaker 1: so you brought in a couple guys last year, not
- 4:22Speaker 1: top top, top of the board, thirty carry a game
- 4:25Speaker 1: kind of guys necessarily, but you brought in a couple
- 4:27Speaker 1: of guys last year. Now this year you're getting it's
- 4:30Speaker 1: getting late a little early for Ohio State in the
- 4:33Speaker 1: running back chase this year. Who are other people that
- 4:36Speaker 1: they may sort of turn their attention to this cycle
- 4:39Speaker 1: or do they just kind of turn the page and
- 4:41Speaker 1: look at twenty twenty eight eighty eight and go, well,
- 4:43Speaker 1: we got our guy there and start the start the
- 4:47Speaker 1: conversation with that.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Certainly do got your guy in twenty twenty eight. And
- 4:51Speaker 2: Elijah Newman Hall, who I think is just about as
- 4:55Speaker 2: sure of a thing as you can have for a
- 4:57Speaker 2: guy committed that far out, which is great news. What
- 5:01Speaker 2: I can say, I don't think is going to happen.
- 5:04Speaker 2: And I know this would make a lot of Ohio
- 5:05Speaker 2: State fans happy is if they went all in now
- 5:08Speaker 2: on trying to flip a common Spell who committed to
- 5:11Speaker 2: Georgia or get back in on a Landon Williams Callis
- 5:13Speaker 2: who is right now between Texas and Texas A and M.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Common Spell got an eight hundred thousand dollars offer that
- 5:20Speaker 2: he committed to with Georgia. Landon Williams Callus will get
- 5:23Speaker 2: roughly the same. And some will say, well, if they
- 5:27Speaker 2: had this much for David Gabriel George, you can turn
- 5:29Speaker 2: into that. I don't think Ohio State's philosophy on spending
- 5:32Speaker 2: on running backs has changed. This was a David Gabriel
- 5:35Speaker 2: George specific thing, so very unlikely to see them do
- 5:40Speaker 2: that there. And when we look at guys that they
- 5:43Speaker 2: were also kind of in on. They had two official
- 5:46Speaker 2: visits scheduled. One of them showed up. That was Jaden Miles,
- 5:51Speaker 2: and Ohio State kind of turned a cold shoulder on him,
- 5:54Speaker 2: and it seemed like he made a real hasty decision
- 5:57Speaker 2: to commit to Florida State the very next day. What
- 6:00Speaker 2: are the odds of getting back in on that. I
- 6:02Speaker 2: think they'll try. Personally, I am much more interested in
- 6:06Speaker 2: them trying to get back in on Nigel Newkirk, who
- 6:09Speaker 2: was scheduled to also come unofficial visit, the only other
- 6:11Speaker 2: running back, but he visited Alabama the week before and
- 6:15Speaker 2: Alabama locked him down. He shut his recruitment down. Now
- 6:19Speaker 2: he's the twenty fourth ranked running back in the class.
- 6:23Speaker 2: I strongly disagree Alabama does too. They paid him like
- 6:27Speaker 2: a top ten back at roughly four hundred thousand dollars. Now,
- 6:31Speaker 2: when you look at that, that's still a ton of
- 6:34Speaker 2: money for a running back who's ranked the twenty third
- 6:36Speaker 2: running back. And this brings us back to the conversation
- 6:40Speaker 2: we've had for a couple of years now of well,
- 6:42Speaker 2: now you're talking about bringing in a guy as one
- 6:44Speaker 2: hundred and eighty pound freshman making more money than the
- 6:46Speaker 2: backs in your class right now that are on campus,
- 6:50Speaker 2: and that doesn't work. So where do you go? Trenard
- 6:54Speaker 2: Roberts name has come up Trinid Roberts is a three
- 6:56Speaker 2: star out of Florida. That's pretty interesting. He's a guy
- 7:00Speaker 2: who at one point was the number one, number two
- 7:03Speaker 2: back in the state of Florida at IMG as a sophomore,
- 7:07Speaker 2: looked really good and then transferred for his junior year
- 7:10Speaker 2: to his local school and kind of dropped off the
- 7:13Speaker 2: face of the earth. There's no film on him. I
- 7:16Speaker 2: can't find anything. I've reached out to him, I can't
- 7:18Speaker 2: get a hold of him. But currently it looks like
- 7:21Speaker 2: the most motion with his recruitment is with North Carolina,
- 7:23Speaker 2: but he's been a name that's been surfacing. I think
- 7:26Speaker 2: it's really interesting. It could be one of those, you know,
- 7:30Speaker 2: he slid kind of under the media radar, and if
- 7:35Speaker 2: Ohio State could potentially get in on that, that could
- 7:37Speaker 2: be something interesting. There are some other names of guys
- 7:40Speaker 2: that they've been involved with throughout the process that would
- 7:43Speaker 2: really interest me. Elijah Kimball out of New York, kind
- 7:47Speaker 2: of kind of a smaller home run hitter, but he
- 7:52Speaker 2: recently committed to Syracuse and that's a guy that Carlos
- 7:55Speaker 2: Laughlin had a relationship with that I would love to
- 7:58Speaker 2: see him double back on. Caden Went out of Georgia,
- 8:01Speaker 2: another guy roughly now that is a three start number
- 8:04Speaker 2: thirty back in the country currently uncommitted. So there's another
- 8:09Speaker 2: one that Uhstate had a relationship with that we could
- 8:11Speaker 2: potentially see them double back on. And there, of course,
- 8:15Speaker 2: are you know those first three weeks of high school evaluation.
- 8:19Speaker 2: They're gonna evaluate everybody's film after those first three weeks,
- 8:22Speaker 2: and what are the odds that they find somebody in
- 8:26Speaker 2: that period versus somebody that they've already offered. And again,
- 8:29Speaker 2: they did their due diligence time. They offered twenty three
- 8:31Speaker 2: other running backs aside from David Gabriel George. It's not
- 8:34Speaker 2: that they were all David Gabriel George and that's it.
- 8:37Speaker 2: There are relationships built. Who do we see them double
- 8:40Speaker 2: back on that. It's too early to tell, but those
- 8:43Speaker 2: are a couple of names that stand out to me.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I'm sure the Ohio State fan base listening to this
- 8:48Speaker 1: is probably in a worst case scenario kind of mood, like,
- 8:51Speaker 1: let's talk about, Okay, what's the worst thing that happens here?
- 8:54Speaker 1: If they don't get David Gabriel George and they don't
- 8:57Speaker 1: get another running back, who's you know, even kind of
- 9:00Speaker 1: conversation of being someone who could come in and be
- 9:03Speaker 1: an immediate impact player a year, year one, or even
- 9:05Speaker 1: year two, clear running back one kind of starter. I
- 9:09Speaker 1: think it's worth sort of resetting the table here with
- 9:14Speaker 1: who do they have on the roster right now? How
- 9:16Speaker 1: much longer are those guys around, because you had like
- 9:18Speaker 1: a bo Jackson last year who feels like bo Jackson's
- 9:21Speaker 1: been at Ohio State quite a while. Bo Jackson still
- 9:23Speaker 1: has two more years this year and next year that
- 9:26Speaker 1: he before he can declare for the NFL Draft. So
- 9:29Speaker 1: unless he goes somewhere else, they've got bo Jackson for
- 9:32Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, bo Jackson for twenty twenty seven. Same
- 9:35Speaker 1: thing for Isaiah West. Legend Bay just showed up as
- 9:38Speaker 1: a true freshman. You got three years of him. I
- 9:41Speaker 1: think that, you know, the natural inclination is to immediately
- 9:45Speaker 1: press the panic button and they are doomed at running back.
- 9:49Speaker 1: But with the guys they've got on the roster, I
- 9:51Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily true.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Ohio State going all in on David Gabriel George, you know,
- 9:59Speaker 2: they were sitting in a boziz in my view that
- 10:01Speaker 2: they had the luxury of doing that. And they had
- 10:04Speaker 2: the luxury of doing that because, as you said, last year,
- 10:07Speaker 2: they brought in favor a key and now watching Legend
- 10:10Speaker 2: Bay's physical transformation, you know he isn't thought coming in
- 10:15Speaker 2: to be a three down back. Well, now all of
- 10:16Speaker 2: a sudden he's you know, he's Travian Henderson's size. Who's
- 10:19Speaker 2: to say that that doesn't happen. You know, we all
- 10:22Speaker 2: talk about pass protection. Travian Henderson as a senior was
- 10:25Speaker 2: quite good at that. And in addition to favor a
- 10:29Speaker 2: key in Legend Bay, you brought in three running backs
- 10:32Speaker 2: the year prior in Bo Jackson, Isaiah West and Turbo Rogers.
- 10:35Speaker 2: And Turbo, who we've not talked about, was a top
- 10:38Speaker 2: ten back in the class and we've yet to see
- 10:40Speaker 2: anything out of him, still four years of eligibility, so
- 10:43Speaker 2: we're looking at five guys right there over the span
- 10:46Speaker 2: of the last two years that is much more than usual,
- 10:49Speaker 2: which gave them the luxury to take this shot, which
- 10:52Speaker 2: to me was an all plus side kind of shot,
- 10:57Speaker 2: meaning if you don't get him, doesn't hurt your roster.
- 11:00Speaker 2: The worst case scenario isn't so bad. You wind up
- 11:03Speaker 2: with a guy out of this class who's maybe a
- 11:06Speaker 2: projecty type of guy, and you roll in the next
- 11:08Speaker 2: year with the top five back in Elijah Newman. Hall
- 11:11Speaker 2: All's well in Lando Buckeye in my opinion at running back.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so probably not the end of the world. Not
- 11:18Speaker 1: the decision that Ohio State fans were probably hoping to hear,
- 11:20Speaker 1: but also not the end of the world for Ohio State.
- 11:24Speaker 1: And we'll see what they continue to do with that
- 11:27Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven running back class. And of course, as
- 11:30Speaker 1: he mentioned earlier, Elijiah Newman Hall already committed for twenty
- 11:33Speaker 1: twenty eight. We saw him this summer at some of
- 11:35Speaker 1: the camps. He looks ready to play at the college
- 11:37Speaker 1: level already. So it's still some bright days ahead for
- 11:42Speaker 1: the Ohio State Buckeyes in that running back room, But
- 11:44Speaker 1: sounds like Wednesday may be a shade of Tennessee orange instead.
- 11:48Speaker 2: So there you go.
- 11:49Speaker 1: There's an update on the recruitment of David Gabriel George
- 11:52Speaker 1: what we're expecting to hear on Wednesday when he announces
- 11:55Speaker 1: his decision. You want to talk to us about it more.
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