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The Origins of Father's Day | Maintaining Frame 57 · Honey Badger Radio

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Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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I am here with Allison and this is Well. I just decided to make
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it a maintaining frame. I don't know if that's appropriate, but it's we're
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just gonna call it maintaining Frame number fifty seven. We're gonna be looking at
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the origins of Father's Day because today is Father's Day, so happy Father's Day
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to oh. Well, it is in the States and in Canada. I
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think I know that in different parts of the world Father's Day might take place
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at different points, but here in the States it is today June eighteenth,
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in Canada and in Canada, so happy Father's Day. So we're gonna be
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looking at the origins of Father's Day. According to Well, actually, one
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of our one of the people from our sort of neck of the woods,
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a man I believe he is from India, and he has a website called
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News of X, which is basically like men's oriented news all matters concerning men.
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And if you want to check that website out, it's News of X
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dot com. Go ahead. There's lots of articles there and they did this
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one interesting piece on the origins of Father's Day, and you might if you
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don't know this, you might be surprised to learn some of this news.
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I thought it was kind of interesting and it could be a good thing for
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us to get into. So firstly, I just want to say Happy Father's
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Day. I spoke to my father on Friday because he's in a nursing home
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because he has a number of ailments. And I spoke to him on Friday,
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and he and I reminisced on things from my childhood that I didn't remember
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that he remembered. So it was kind of like surreal because I don't get
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to talk to my father very often. Um, and uh, it got
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pretty emotional. I'll just say that. I'll just say that. So hopefully
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some of you guys are in touch with your dad and he's still with us,
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and if so, I hope that you, you know, at least
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takes a little bit of time to reach out and if you have anything to
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thank him for, do so. And if you're angry with him, maybe
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just forgive him. I don't know, I don't know your situation, but
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I would just suggest that you try to, you know, use this time
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to build something positive. I guess, um, and if you are a
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father, then good for you as well. And I hope that you are
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involved with your kids, because this is like kind of a big thing,
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you know, fathers, fathers being involved with kid Not to bring the tenor
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down a bit, but if society actually cared, I mean, honestly,
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our society expects men and they do. They do care more about the relationship
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with their children than society does. And yet we won't take responsibility for the
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fact that we were routinely remove fathers fit fathers from their children's lives just to
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convenience the mother for no other reason, and we don't want to take responsibility
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for it, and we continue to blame men, some men, a very
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small minority of men, for treating their relationship with their children as expendable as
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society does. I mean, and that's a very small I'm not I'm not
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talking about the guys who are unable to see their children because of paternity blocking
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access or ones who don't even know they have children. I'm talking about the
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guys who actually have chosen not to be part of their kid's life as much
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as possible. But on the other hand, realize that those men also didn't
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really have a choice to be a father in the first place, unlike women
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having a choice to be a mother. And that's the case. Like you
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look at the law around maternity and paternity, men do not have the legal
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right to separate consent to sex or or not even consent to sex non consent
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to sex. So in other words, if a man doesn't consent to sex,
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he's still consents to being a parent of the child that's conceived through that
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sex. And that means yes, male rape victims are expected to take responsibility.
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So just consider that when we look at the tiny minority of men who
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don't want to be fathers and have been forced to against their will, and
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consider that many of them still step up. There's one particular story that was
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really harrowing that I've heard. It was on one of those those Reddit threads
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that they do periodically, how have you experienced rapeism? Men? And one
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of these, one of these, one of these men described having been sex
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well, he was taken advantage of when he was unconscious, um, drunk
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at a party I believe, yeah, and um the woman later well conceived
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and even though he did not like her at well, she had raped him
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and he perceived it as a rape, So it wasn't a situation where he
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was just okay with it, if that makes sense. He had to maintain
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a relationship with her for something like I think six years, a cordial relationship
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with his rapist for six years before she completely fucked up, and she did
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because well, she's a rapist and he got custody of her, of the
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child. Can you imagine that he and he probably still has to make nice
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with her because it's unlikely that she completely lost all contact. But it's just
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it's like unbelievable. I mean, I don't think I've heard a story as
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as ugly as that from women. Oh yeah, I had to kiss up
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to my rapist for six years just to maintain contact with my child. It
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doesn't happen, Yeah, not to women, but it happens to men.
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That happens to more frequency than we can imagine. And yet this guy still
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stepped up. He still stepped up for the sake of his kid, and
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he never he never gave up getting that kid out of the environment that I
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believe it was a daughter that she was in. Never gave up on trying
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to protect her, trying to make sure that she got away from the rapist
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who enforced the conception. That's that's pretty that's pretty heroic in a lot of
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ways. Um. So there you go. There's a little speel. Maybe
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it's a little bit dark. Um. Perhaps you just remember all the positive
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things that fathers do for kids, mentorship and all that stuff. Ye I
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haven't called my dad yet, but I will after this show. Oh okay,
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it's cool. Yeah, it's only like six o'clock over there, so
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um yeah, so then that's good. There's plenty of time. So let's
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get into the story. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you under your
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com splash I. And it does actually have themes of fatherhood and also the
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importance of a male mentorship, which I think can we talk about that during
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Father's Day? Like male mentorship? Of course? Yeah, I mean,
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like, you know, because we live in modern times, there are a
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lot of children and young people that don't have a father, but they like
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seek out, you know, they have a substitute, I guess, for
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lack of a better word, in a mentor or a u an instructor or
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a priest or whatever it is, right, They so yeah, I think
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that, Um, it's fine to uh make that to an uncle, like
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I'm a relative, you know. Yeah, could you extend it, um,
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not to women though, yeah, I'm not going to Well, primarily
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fathers, like biological fathers, and then after that anyone who's sort of like,
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you know, filling that role. Well, stepfathers can be good.
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Yeah as a man, um, you know, older brothers, uncles,
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grandfathers, things like that, you know, teachers, priests, whatever,
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um, boy scout leader, I don't know your coach, Like, yeah,
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there's plenty of other versions. I remember. This is a little cute
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story. We have a small pool in my small town and years ago we
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would go there and what the hell we did because I don't swim that much,
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but um, and there was this male lifeguard or male swim swimming choke
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coach. He wasn't very old, he's like in his late in his mid
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light teens maybe, And I remember that, even though there were other women
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there who were or girls who were life coaching or not life coaching but coaching
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or sorry a lifeguarding or swim coaching, all the kids, all the kids
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would just swarm him like ewalks swarming a walker, you know, what I
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mean, um, and that you could just really tell the value of that
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kind of energy to them. Yeah, I'm sure to play with with a
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man or a young man, so that that that kind of energy, that
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kind of nurturing masculine energy sorely needed in the world. Definitely. Yeah.
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Okay, so I want to talk about this. Yeah, let's let's take
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a look. This is interesting history. I didn't know. So all right,
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I have some images on the screen because the website News of X because
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it's like a you know, a small independent run site, it's like chock
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full of ads, like almost as many as the Daily Mail, and I
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just don't want to subject to anyone to all that. So I'm just gonna
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show the images and read through and read through this article. Yeah, I
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thought that might be a little bit better. So Father's Day was created because
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of a mining accident. I don't know if any of you guys knew that.
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I did not know that. So you want to get we'll get into
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the details of the mining accident and how it's spurred on or started in the
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West or like I mean, like in the Americas, I guess, or
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in America. The Father's Day. So Father's Day is coming up. Well,
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that's today, so it's here. Believe it or not. A tragedy
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in West Virginia is at the heart of its celebration in America. So weird
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because I'm in Virginia, which is right next to West Virginia, obviously,
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and I drive through West Virginia whenever I go to Chicago, which is like
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twice so far since moving here. Father's Day has been celebrated since the fifteen
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hundreds in Europe, so it is an older day. But it wasn't until
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the early twentieth century that America began to follow suit. And when I say
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America, I'm not talking about the United States. I'm saying I'm the United
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States, in Canada and probably Mexico as well, although I don't know for
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sure. And the first Father's Day celebration in this country occurred right here in
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West Virginia at what is today named the Central United Methodist Church in Fairmont,
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in honor of the fathers who died in the Mona Monagah mining disaster. And
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I have a picture. Obviously this is from like the early what is this
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like nineteen oh seven? This is a This is from a newspaper clipping Alice,
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and if you want to look at it, you can jump into my
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share. Okay, you're looking all right. Yeah. On the morning of
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December sixth, nineteen oh seven, tragedly struck the mining town of Mononga.
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I think that's how you say it, Oh, Monoga. An explosion occurred
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deep inside Fairmount Coal Companies Number six and Number eight mines. It killed almost
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everyone inside at the time, and the small handful who were rescued later all
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died of their injuries. Over three hundred and sixty people perished. Two hundred
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and fifty of them were fathers. Of course, they were all men,
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but a significant majority were fathers. It's considered one of the worst mining disasters
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in American history. One thousand children lost their dads that day. Grace Golden
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Clayton, who was mourning the recent loss of her own father, sympathize with
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the weight of their sorrow. Following summer, she convinced her pastor to honor
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the fathers in a special service on July fifth, nineteen oh eight. And
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I have a picture here of what appears to be a monument that was built
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to m in the the four Grace Golden Clayton, who basically asked the pastor
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to pray or do a honor honorific for the fathers that died in that disaster.
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Williams Memorial Methodist Episcopal Church South in Fairmont, West Virginia hosted the event
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for variety of reasons. Oh, go ahead, you want to say something.
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Yeah, I wanted to point something out, like the Industrial Revolution and
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even sort of behund before that, the like the the when we started to
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get into the him Ages and all of those big architectural projects. I almost
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want to point something out. This is one of the few times that if
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you weren't part of the aristocratic class or the war basically the warring class,
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that you see these huge amounts of men dying because peasants were generally exempt from
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any kind of war they were they were generally they weren't involved in war.
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A lot of people think that peasants were conscripted and stuff. I mean,
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to a degree, they had like corvey labor, like they had to do
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volunteer work. But for the most part, war, at least during the
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Middle Ages was pretty much only done by aristocrats and also perhaps yeomen which came
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from like the trades in small property owners. So peasants were usually excluded from
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all of that. So that means that when we get into the high Middle
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Ages architecture, architectural stuff, which did involve a lot of death because it's
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very dangerous, and also it's the industrial age, is when we start seeing
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this huge amount of men dying in order to construct the infrastructure that we enjoy.
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And um, I just wanted to point that out, but this isn't
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a usual thing. Men died for what we enjoy. Take for granted.
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Um, they died to heat our homes. They died to build the railway,
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they died to build the electricity grid. They died for all of this,
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um, and we just take it for granted. Yeah, you know,
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And I just I just find this really striking. Um I also sounded
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sort of striking that she gets the monument. I appreciate it, but it
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just seems a little you couldn't have it. He's had some miners in there.
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Yeah, it's a little bit weird. I think that it's mostly because
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she is the one that made the suggestions, so I guess in the way
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that she could be helpful. But yeah, I get what you're saying though,
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because she was basically she's trying to honor her father. But um yeah,
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yeah, no, Actually, to be honest, I'm fine with it
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because, you know, maybe it's good to see a woman honored for honoring
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men. Yeah. Yeah, it seems like a really reasonable reason to honor
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a woman and making sure that that dead men are not forgotten and not ignored
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and minimized. Um, so, I mean it props to her, and
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certainly she deserves a monument. It would be nice. All I'm saying is
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be nice if maybe there's a plaque below that or something like just something.
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There is a plaque, but I can't read it, so it's let me
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see. Yeah it's illegible, and maybe maybe there is a monument to the
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miners as well, So there might be. Maybe next time I drive through
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West Virginia, if it's not on the way, I could try to find
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this spot. Looks like it's in front of an abandoned building, so maybe
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this uh, you know, this area is kind of on the on the
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decline. But okay, so yeah, there's a there's a general minimization too,
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Like men give their lives to for the material comfort of their of women
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and children, and there's this general minimization of that that that isn't a form
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of caretaking or parenting. Like, for some reason, there's so much when
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I see women tweeting out or these published um journalists tweeting stuff out, there
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seems to be this perception that if someone takes the effort provide materially for their
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family, that it's some way of oppressing their family rather than than a form
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of nerd suring in and of itself. Have you noticed that? Yeah?
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Yeah, And it's like I really like, for example, a couple of
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weeks ago or maybe a month ago, there was some stupid relationship advice and
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it had the strong suggestion that the partner who provides materially for the relationship is
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somehow the abuser abuser because they do it, and they are alternatively that they're
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the only one who can be an abuser and that you know, so you
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abuse people financially by providing for them financially. And I actually tweeted them,
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I said, is it possible that people can be abused financially by people who
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are who they are providing for? You know? Okay, but anyway,
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it's people need to realize that giving your life to provide and protect for women
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children isn't self a form of nurturance, right, it seems like it's it's
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I don't know many orders were removed from actual taking care of people, but
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kids aren't going to grow up if they don't have a safe place to grow
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up in, right, exactly by the almost exclusively safe, warm environment where
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we don't have to live in our own waste, and we can drink good
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water, eat food that doesn't poison us, and enjoy the an infinite variety
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of stoff at our fingertips and lighting well beyond our circuiting rhythms were designed to
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accommodate. But that's another story, and I just wanted to point Yeah,
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no, I appreciate that I did get a super chow. This was earlier
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today in the morning. It's it doesn't have a message. It just says
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eleven dollars, So thank you anonymous for the eleven dollars. And uh,
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yeah, there's some There are some other ones, but I think they're from
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Thursday show. And I'm guessing odds are that Hannah did read them and she
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just didn't put done at the end, so I don't know if those are
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Yeah, that's probably what it is. She said that she had read all
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of the ones associated with the show. Briefly was like which ones are associated?
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But then I realized that discord has brought back the actual dating system.
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Yeah, I see that there's like dates. So I just guessed that was
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problem Thursday anyway, So I just want to get that out of the way.
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Um, okay, so we got so we got a little bit of
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the backstory. Let me show you guys. Also, this is a photo
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of the coal mine entrance in Fairmont, West Virginia. You see all the
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men sitting there on the well. I guess it's sort of like the mind
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cart train or whatever they would call it, and you can see the men
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there, and I thought that was kind of a neat picture as well.
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So, for a variety of reasons, a service did not grow beyond the
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local Fairmont community. This is the service that was done by this pastor at
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the request of the daughter of one of the men who died, to honor
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the fathers that all were killed in this explosion. It wasn't until the community
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men. Yeah. And also, I mean maybe news didn't get out very
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quickly back in those days, but I'm guessing that people thought it was tragic
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and everything, but they didn't think anything else of it. So it wasn't
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until Sonora's smart DoD of Washington State, inspired by her Mother's Day founder and
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West Virginian and A Jarvis threw herself behind the idea of Father's Day, that
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the holiday really began gaining traction in America. And here's another interesting thing.
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It's another woman is getting behind the idea of let's make Father's Day a thing.
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So it's almost like if women back men up, you can get a
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lot of shit done. So. And there is a sign here Manoga disaster.
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This is a plaque or a sign, and it says, on the
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sixth of December nineteen oh seven, three hundred and sixty one coal miners,
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many of them from countries far across the sea, perished under these hills in
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the worst mine disaster of our nation. The four who escaped died of injuries,
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so no one survived really. In nineteen sixty six, President Lyndon Johnson
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finally issued the official proclamation that designated the third Sunday in June as a nationally
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recognized holiday honoring fathers. Well, I wouldn't call it a holiday because nobody
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gets it off, but like a day honoring fathers. This day was made
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permanent in nineteen seventy two by President Richard Nick. But it all started in
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rural West Virginia as a way for grieving children to remember and honor the dads
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they lost in the Monogana Mananga mind disaster. We don't usually think a Father's
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Day as being especially for the fatherless, but that was a major part of
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the original intent. So whether you will be celebrating the day with your father
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or without him this year, this day is for you. As we mentioned
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earlier in the article, Mother's Day also originia in West Virginia, and you
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can read its story here. I did open up the link to that Mother's
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Day was it sort of came out before Father's Day, unsurprisingly, um,
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but I wanted to share the story so because I didn't know that I didn't
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know that it was like this terrible tragedy that killed all these people men,
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and then the daughter of one of them said, you know, we should
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do something special for these men that essentially sacrifice themselves, because you know,
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it's like people know that if you're mining there's risk involved, not just of
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like you know, explosion, but just like being exposed to you know,
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the coal and all of the smoke and the and the air and everything else.
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And it got she got that done. And then again another woman and
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on the other side of the country. She was in Washington State, which
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is like the northwest corner. Um basically said we should make this a regular
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thing. And then it went into you know, um through the system,
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and sure enough you you had like one Lyndon B. Johnson and then one
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Richard Nixon make it official. And so that's kind of an interesting story anyway.
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I don't know if you wanted to add anything to that, Allison,
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but yeah, well, um, I know that we've covered the story of
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I believe Sonora Smart Dodd of Washington State before the Mother's Day story. Don't
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know that wasn't oh oh oh, she was the one that wanted to make
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Father's Day official, right, yes, yeah, and uh she did so
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because I believe her father raised um oh six kids mm hmm by himself.
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Ah. Yep, Well that's interesting. I didn't know that. Oh yeah,
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I'll send you you'll probably cover that one too, since it's it is
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Father's Day. Yeah, that's take a look right there. Yeah, this
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might have less of those persnickety ads. Yeah, I'll try to open it
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and see. I thought we covered her before, but maybe we haven't.
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Maybe we just tweet Maybe I just tweeted about her, So that's why it's
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in my memory. Banks, Yeah, that's she. Uh. She had
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a father who who raised six kids. I believe it was six um from
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when his his his wife actually died in childbirth. Incidentally, I imagine that
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happened quite a bit in the past. So maybe that's why they were a
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lot more concerned about marriages staying together. Well, yeah, because you never
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know what you need to spare. It sounded like more than ninety nine,
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No, I'm sorry, more than Let me see, there were three hundred
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and sixty people who perished. Two hundred and fifty of them were fathers,
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so that's what like more than two thirds, about two thirds, So yeah,
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like there were a lot, and they were, you know, fathers
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with children. They weren't like necessarily separated from their children, from what I
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could tell, because I don't think that no fault divorce and all that was
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a thing back then. So well, yeah, probably wasn't for the simple
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reason, like a lot feminists will talk about appression, impression of women,
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but consider how often people were actually dying, even women in childbirths, which
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incidentally you can't blame on patriarchy either. So the having to involve parents would
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be critically important to make sure you don't have children on the street. They
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had almost no h safety net than either, so people had to stay together
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to keep each other safe. They had to maintain their bonds, their human
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bonds. Yeah, that's I guess terrible. You know what's really interesting?
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Jonathan went into like Walmart to find a Father's daycard and eventually found a Father's
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daycard with like a sasquash on it. Okay, but I don't think you're
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specifically looking for it. But it was fun, you know, Yeah,
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And I was like looking at the cards. I'm like, you know,
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it's interesting. We have this month now for Pride, but you never see
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any cards for pride, you know what I mean? See happy Pride,
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you know? And you know why, it's because it's not a month for
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human connection. I'm going to talk about it, but it's not like that.
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The whole supposed community is not really about connection at all. It's about
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im identity politics and who you have sex with or gender you supposedly identified what
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the fact that gender doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah, And there's also a
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lot of like it's gotten to a point now where you know, there's blatant
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like displays of people's fetishes and b DSM and things like that. So it's
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not and I'm not I mean, that's just the truth. Like you can
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look at parades and that's what they are now. But you know, I'm
29:48
glad that you brought this up because I I was thinking about this. Okay,
29:52
So this is June. And one of the things that I realize about
29:56
June is that while most people know it as Pride month, I know it
30:02
as or at least I've realized that not only is it the month that Father's
30:06
Day occurs, but it's also Memorial Day, which is, you know,
30:12
essentially like reflecting on all of the men who gave their lives in war,
30:18
and it is like ninety nine point nine percent men, right, And it's
30:23
um D Day, which is you know that's May Day or not May Day,
30:30
it's D Day. It's like the day that we you know, landed
30:33
on the shores of Normandy in World War two. Also all men, and
30:38
it's men's mental health health awareness month too, So you have like four things
30:45
at least that are male related, and they're all overshadowed by Pride Month,
30:52
all of them. And I mean, like like I I was lucky,
30:56
like you know, not that it matters because we all know what big tech
30:59
is like. But you know, on Facebook, every Father's Day and every
31:03
Mother's Day, I look to see, you know, they because they have
31:07
these like custom made little backgrounds. If you have like a short enough message,
31:11
it'll like add this sort of colorful background to your post so that it
31:15
catches people's eyes. And on Mother's Day or other days like Christmas, well
31:22
not even Christmas anymore, but like other holidays like Halloween, you know,
31:25
you'll you'll see like there's bats and jack o lanterns and spooky stuff, and
31:30
Mother's Day they'll have like you know, women with babies or something like that.
31:34
But for Father's Day, they don't have anything. They don't even have
31:37
like the corny things that you might expect, like ties and socks, you
31:41
know, the kind of stuff that we joke about. None of that imagery.
31:45
And it's like they just pretend like it just doesn't exist. And I
31:49
think that's I don't think that's an accident. I really don't. I don't
31:52
think I know that. Like I made a post that I asked I said,
31:56
so you know, not to be I'm not like upset about this.
32:01
This isn't like keeping me up at night. But isn't it weird that Pride
32:06
Month is in the same month that you know, Memorial Day, D Day,
32:10
Mental Men's Mental Health Awareness Month, and Father's Day It's all in the
32:15
same month and it all gets overshadowed by this isn't that strange? And this
32:22
woman from Australia was in my friend's list. She responded and basically said,
32:25
well, it's Father's Day in your country, but over here she basically wanted
32:29
to fight with me about it, and I was like, look, I'm
32:30
just saying, like, we don't recognize men at any point in the year,
32:35
and I'm just saying, why can't we do it on the days that
32:38
we literally made for it? Just then? I don't you can have your
32:43
Pride Month, but maybe we should just like, also, you know,
32:46
like give this some priority because I don't think it's an accident. I think
32:51
the purpose is to take take men out of our minds. Like nobody talks
32:58
about D Day. Nobody talks about Memorial Day. It's just a day to
33:01
barbecue and watch whatever the big summer blockbuster is because it usually comes out that
33:06
weekend. But that's got nothing to do with Memorial Day. So I just
33:10
think it's I think it's interesting. I don't think it's an accident. That's
33:15
that's all I wanted to say about that. Yeah, well you can't if
33:19
you it's it is interesting. It's also um oh, well you're right,
33:29
it probably isn't an accident. No, No, I wonder if there's an
33:32
invested interest in just not recognizing the sheer amount of sacrifice men have made for
33:37
our society. I guess. So. Yeah. I mean some people say
33:42
that it's in June because of Stonewall, the Pride thing, and I'm like,
33:47
yeah, okay, but that was like how long ago. I mean,
33:51
you know, I don't know. Oh yeah, I don't know.
33:52
And you know what's interesting is Stonewall. Yeah, I was mentioning. I
33:57
think I talked about you with this, pointed this out. Okay, So
34:00
Stonewall kicked off all of the lgbt Q plus whatever things right T plus and
34:08
Stonewall itself was kicked into cure by all the you know, the drag queens,
34:15
GA transwall states, not just game in but fem like drag queens,
34:21
transvestites, trans like trans women, cross dressers. Yeah, they were the
34:30
ones who who really were fighting back because they were more singled out because they
34:34
were visible. Yeah, that came up. That came up when we were
34:37
doing going through that, Julie Bendell, uh, Douglas Murray. And now
34:43
now notice how Julie Bendell, who's enjoyed the fruits of a generation of post
34:49
stonewall and and here we are and she as a political lesbian, gets to
34:55
start to condemn trans women. Is do you see what I'm getting it?
35:00
Yeah? No, I heard some of the people who kicked it off,
35:04
and now we've come full circle and they're being kicked out by the political lesbians.
35:10
Yeah, and and the h and the the masculine gaze are sort of
35:15
helping them. Because I hate to say it, but the testosterl Testosterril seems
35:22
to come with almost like an instinctive simping. Yeah yeah, well really you
35:31
know, And I say that not as an is not an odd like you
35:36
know, if I hit it, if I could hit a button and remove
35:38
the simping from all men, I would it'd probably be terrifying. Yeah,
35:43
you know, well, yeah, I think that's that's something that we can
35:47
that we can work on, the removing the simping. But the thing is
35:53
that I think it's almost it's instinctive in a lot of ways. And that
35:57
doesn't mean that it's not supposed to be reciprocal. But I'm sorry, if
36:00
a guy is throwing himself in front of a bullet for his wife or girlfriend,
36:06
that isn't cultural behavior. Yeah, that's something instinctual, you know.
36:13
And I think that it's just with the testosterones. So even game d do
36:17
it. And I say that not because I think, oh, yeah,
36:21
that's the way it should be. I'd say that so we can pull that
36:23
little wretched goblin out into the light and say, how do we contain you
36:28
so you don't become over insane? Right? And you know, And I've
36:35
gotten into arguments with people who are like, but guinocentrism is not natural.
36:38
I actually have it. I mean there's this huge argument on Twitter over that
36:40
between Brianna and Yeah, and I'm like, I think it is, but
36:45
it's not a situation where you know, we should I mean, I think
36:50
our level of guinocentrism, Like it's ridiculous, but that seems to be what
36:53
happens when we monopolize a single resource. We just create these gigantic government run
36:59
hairs like we did in the Bronze Age that appropriate all the resources. But
37:04
um, but my point is that you know, this is this is extreme,
37:07
but the instinct is still there, you know what I mean? Yeah,
37:13
yeah, I know. I think the instinct is to the instinct to
37:15
do it is totally there. It's like but like, um, it's not
37:20
like the the you know, the simping is like at the level that it
37:23
happens these days, it's not that's not purely instinctual. You know, it's
37:30
conditioned too, I think. Yeah, I think it's a combination. But
37:34
it's like about there. If you go on Twitter, you'll see that there's
37:37
the nature versus nurture debate over dinocentrism. Mm hmm. I would say that
37:44
it is sort of an important thing because if we do ignore any kind of
37:46
instinctive tendencies towards it, then we're just going to be beholden to it.
37:52
Yeah, okay, all right, yea, regardless, let's let's continue.
37:57
Well, I think that was That was the end of the article about the
38:01
history of Father's Day. Uh, did you guys know any of this stuff?
38:06
Let us know in the comments. Do you want me to look at
38:08
this a little bit of this other article you sent me, the PBS one
38:12
about Sonora Smart Todd. Sure, let's just it's probably not a very long
38:16
article. S all right, this is from PBS dot org um, which
38:22
I would normally be super suspicious of. But let's see how this goes.
38:27
So you could call her the mother of Father's Day? So are they trying
38:31
to give her all the credit for Father's Day not the guys that all died
38:36
or I mean, I don't know. This is a different this is a
38:38
different scenario. Um. I think it's interesting how it's women that who are
38:44
like, yeah, we need to commemorate men. Though I know that's something
38:47
that you probably wouldn't really get today. I think that's one of the things
38:51
that I thought was really interesting with the original story too. I was like,
38:52
oh, it's a woman, because let me put it this way,
38:58
I think that you'll get women who want to commemorate men. I mean,
39:01
obviously, last time I checked, I am quasi female. But the idea
39:08
that they could actually convince other people to do it might be more of a
39:13
past thing. Yeah, well, I mean I'd like to believe that we
39:19
could still get there. But yes, I think that today women are incentivized
39:22
to see men as competition and they just want to you know, they just
39:29
want to solo life. So and they realize that, you know, in
39:34
order for them, aren't soloing life at all. No, No, they're
39:38
they're they're still using men, They're just not they're not honorific, they're not
39:44
honoring them while they do it, and they're not interacting with them. So
39:49
yeah, and that's really funny because I've said this before on Twitter. You
39:53
know, it seems like modern day women want to absolutely destroy the relationship between
39:59
men and women, but at the same time still be regarded as women so
40:02
that they can, you know, because there's a certain the instinct for men
40:07
to protect and provide for women provides a legitimacy to women getting that protection and
40:13
provision. But once you break down the relationship between the sexes, what do
40:16
women and men become. Women become a group of people that are unfairly appropriating
40:22
resources from men without giving them a say in the appropriation of those resources.
40:30
I'm afraid that's the same setup as the French Revolution. Sorry, ladies,
40:37
And if you want to destroy men's consideration for women what you're doing, then
40:43
you're gonna if you literally want men to view women as men or whatever,
40:47
as not women and not have any desire to want to protect and provide for
40:52
women. You see what I'm saying. I want to get rid of that
40:54
acknowledgement that men want to protect and provide for women, and that's what they
40:59
do. Want to get rid of that relationship. Well, what do you
41:01
end up with? You end up with men who are not regarding the women
41:06
that they are protecting and providing for to be women. So what does that
41:09
look like? That looks like one class having resources taken from them but having
41:16
no voice in it. That's like, that's if you want to turn our
41:22
society into that, that's fine, but I think you'll find that that does
41:27
not have much of a future, and the future that it does have is
41:31
not particularly good for women, yep, or men. Really, it's not
41:37
good for anybody, Okay, all right. The late Sonora Smart Dodd launched
41:45
the Celebration or thus Celebration of Dads in nineteen ten. In their hometown of
41:51
Spokane, Washington. As a result, she is one. She is the
41:54
one responsible for those annual gifts that run the gamut from embarrassingly silly neckties to
42:00
kids finger paintings crafted with so much love by those tiny hands that they can
42:06
bring a tear to the eye of even the most stoic father. It's a
42:10
tradition. Dodd decided to start as she sat in a Spokane church on Mother's
42:15
Day nineteen oh nine listening to a sermon about what else Mother's Day? And
42:21
it bugged her. Dodd's great granddaughter, Betsy Roddy, told the Associated Press
42:27
in twenty seventeen, she thought, well, why isn't there a Father's Day.
42:31
Dodd and her five younger brothers, after all, had been raised by
42:35
their father after their mother died in childbirth in eighteen ninety eight. William Jackson
42:40
Smart became a farmer after fighting in the Civil War. He not only held
42:45
down both parental roles, but did it with leadership and love, his daughter
42:49
always said, and she believed he ought to get some credit. So she
42:53
worked tirelessly with the local clergy and got to the YWCA on board, got
43:00
the YWCA on board. That's like the Young Women's It's like the the y
43:05
m c A, but for women. I think Young Women's Christian Association.
43:08
Yeah, the Young Women's Christian Association. Thank you. And they had their
43:12
first Father's Day in Spokane in nineteen ten, said Roddy, displaying a copy
43:15
of the River Press of Fort Benton, Montana, which reported on the event
43:22
Spokane. Maybe, yeah, that sounds right. Well, you know what
43:25
I would. I think that's right. But then again it's me no,
43:30
no, I think you're right. I now that you say it like that,
43:32
I'm now I know I've heard this also that that name the previous one
43:37
who can like I kept thinking, oh yeah, right the other place,
43:44
the where the mine explosion happened. Yeah, I think that really brings the
43:50
tone. I'm sorry, No, it's okay, this was a long time
43:53
ago. It's it's not too soon. Um okay. So anyway, so
44:00
she worked tirelessly with the local clergy and got the YWCA on board, and
44:04
they had their first Father's Day in Bocan in nineteen ten, said Roddy,
44:08
just playing a copy of the River Press of Fort Benton, Montana, which
44:13
reported on the event. River Press is a newspaper. Although that story predicted
44:17
the celebration would go nationwide by the next year, Father's Day was slow to
44:22
catch on. So much SOO that Dot spent the next sixty two years lobbying
44:27
everyone from presidents to retailers for support. Finally, in nineteen will you sisters,
44:31
it's a lot of work, you know, I got a feeling that,
44:36
uh, you know, Women's History Month was a lot easier to do
44:40
in this patriarchy men's benefit above women. It took a woman sixty two years
44:51
to convince people, hey, we celebrate mothers. What don't we celebrate fathers
44:57
in this patriarchy that puts men's in for about women. Yeah, isn't that
45:02
weird? Isn't that? You know? This is we're collecting a lot of
45:07
oddities in our It must it must be because she's a woman and no one
45:10
was listening to her. You know that every cent a woman says we need
45:16
a history month. We need it Woman's lot foot Month. Yeah, I
45:24
don't a woman. What does a woman know? Oh god, I'm sorry,
45:34
that's from the Mummy. That's from the Mummy. Guys, great movie.
45:37
Okay, um, Yeah, sixty two years lobbying everyone from presidents to
45:43
retailers for support. Finally, in nineteen seventy two, President Richard Nixon declared
45:50
the third Sunday of June a federal holiday, honoring Dad's dad, who died
45:53
at age ninety six in nineteen seventy eight, had lived to see her dream
45:57
come true. Now that I think about it, I wonder when Nixon made
46:01
it a federal holiday. Was it like a legit federal holiday, Like people
46:06
got the day off, and maybe they like rolled that back because today Father's
46:12
Day is just another day. I mean, like, you know, you're
46:14
supposed to get your dad a card, or call them up or get them
46:16
a gift, but Mother's Day is not. I don't think that you get
46:22
that day off anymore either. It's not like like there's a short list of
46:27
recognized days. Right when I was a kid, I remember Washington's birthday and
46:32
Lincoln's birthday were among those. But then they got rid of Washington's and Lincoln's
46:37
birthday and they made one day called President's Day. And then they made that
46:44
day to where you didn't get it off. It wasn't it didn't count as
46:46
a holiday. It was just a special day, you know, like Flag
46:52
Day. Which is also this month, by the way, not that that's
46:54
a big one, but it's like Flag Day. As a kid, you
46:58
go outside with your little American flag and everybody would go on line and wave
47:01
them. Called flag Day. I don't know, it's like get it's like
47:06
the pre It's like the the uh, the pre game to the fourth of
47:10
July. So um. Anyway, So I wonder maybe there was a time
47:19
when Father's Day was legitimately a holiday, because they're calling it a holiday,
47:22
but I wouldn't say it's holiday because you don't get the day off. It's
47:27
not like you know, I mean, it's on Sundays anyway, so it's
47:30
not like banks are open, but you know what I mean, like the
47:32
kind of federal holidays mean that all the federal things are closed. I think
47:38
if the rest of this article is probably not really relevant. It's basically just
47:43
on the the the great granddaughter of the woman who did it. Yeah,
47:47
well, I think I got like the gist of it. So it was
47:53
a woman that basically made father like worked hard to make Father's Day recognize Yes,
47:59
sixty two years, guys, sixty two years. Yeah, in this
48:05
patriarchy, even recognizing men over women, you could say it took longer because
48:12
the initial incident, so a bunch of dudes had to die, and then
48:15
one of their daughters it was like, can we just like do something for
48:20
fathers in her in West Virginia? And then another woman like kind of I
48:25
guess she caught wind of it, or maybe she knew people who were down
48:29
there because the miners were traveling from all over, you know, to that
48:32
died there. And then she was like, well, some we you know,
48:36
maybe we should do something with this. And then there was the sixty
48:39
the sixty five years, um, so it's probably more like you know,
48:46
sixty two. So so it's actually more like maybe uh sixty six or something,
48:52
because it's it's a few years after, you know. I think it
48:55
was nineteen oh eight when when the accident happened, nineteen o nine when the
49:02
uh, the priest in West Virginia did the sermon on it or the service,
49:07
and then nineteen ten when Sonora smart Dad launched the celebration of fathers.
49:16
So yeah, I might not be too related, or maybe it was.
49:21
Maybe there there was some kind of crossover. Yeah, who knows, who
49:27
knows, Maybe they can change it to the July fifth, we get it
49:32
out of pride and nunth July. Well, I mean that that'd be like
49:37
the day. But the problem with that is and that's the day after July
49:40
fourth, um, which you know, I don't know, I think that.
49:46
I think that, you know, when I was young, I remember
49:50
when pride was a week. Can we just go back to that, because
49:53
I mean, I think, you know, that's funny, funny about all
49:55
this. Yeah, I think pride was once a day. Yeah know it
50:00
was it was a day, and then it was a week, and then
50:01
it was a month. But we're you going to say somebody was moaning.
50:05
Well, first of all, I think that the alphabet soup people need to
50:08
get rid of the bee because I don't think the bee people really want to
50:13
be part of the alphabet soup people. But regardless, well, um don't.
50:17
I think a lot of them don't really want to be associated with the
50:21
others because it's it's just it doesn't represent much except what you're not straight like.
50:28
But that doesn't mean you have and stuff in common with each other,
50:30
you know, So it's like, no, it does. I mean,
50:35
I think that is fair to say. Oh, by the way, speaking
50:39
of Pride, I guess the next thing is Pride Season, So in Canada.
50:45
I made this story. Yeah, it started in Canada because of course
50:50
it did. They are now going to be doing Pride all the way up
50:53
till September, so it's basically for the whole summer now, so not Pride
51:00
season. So yeah, but watch keep keep an eye on your country for
51:04
when Pride Season comes to you. But apparently it's in Canada right now,
51:07
so there you go. Wow. Thanks. I'm actually surprised that, uh,
51:14
like there hasn't been the Mother's Day creep, like I guess there is.
51:16
There's like Women's well yeah, we cram in like women's things all over
51:22
the place, right, Women's International Women's Day, Women's History Month, Mother's
51:25
Day, Father's Day because you know we're supposed to celebrate women today too,
51:30
um and and so on. So yeah, why not you know, Oh
51:36
okay, this is this is getting really fuck this a little crazy by the
51:42
way they're doing. There's also uh not in Pride Month, but like scatter
51:46
in other parts of the year. There's National Coming Out Day and there's trans
51:51
Trans what is it remembrance? I think trans Trans Remembrance, No, for
51:55
the trainees that died, you know, at the Battle of the Big Horn
52:00
or on the beaches of Normandy or at at Pearl Harbor. I don't know,
52:04
but they but there was trans people that died, you know, so
52:07
they get a day too, you know what I mean. Look, I'm
52:14
okay with some kind of recognition, but I think it's kind of like taking
52:21
over everything else. So the battle at Hoover, Damn, the the you
52:28
know, the what's the one? The Custer where where did he die?
52:30
Like the Alamo? That's I can just go into Gettysburg, you know,
52:38
uh, the Hamburger Hill like whatever, Nam, North Korea, like all
52:44
these places where they were just they were just trans soldiers throwing their lives away
52:49
to keep this country free. And say, oh no, wait, I'm
52:52
sorry, that's men. They don't get a day, you know. I
53:00
was. I made this argument long time ago that um, the masculinity and
53:05
men constantly have to justify their right to have an identity, and they're constantly
53:10
being attacked for having it and for taking any kind of identity from what they
53:15
are a period. Right, So you can't like every single group seems to
53:20
have their own idiosyncratic, mutually exclusive and absolutely dumb exploit nation for what a
53:25
real man is, and let me tell you it isn't has a penis.
53:30
Yeah yeah, Chris Haff's Chris half of the chat said Battle of the Bulge.
53:36
I see what you did there, But it's like I made the connection,
53:44
like that's almost like a trans experience, almost having your identity being attacked
53:51
and under I mean, no, it's not as much today. Oh they
53:53
didn't like that, so I'm like, okay, you can't even make that
54:00
kind of connection. But anyway, but um oh, was I gonna say
54:05
about all of this. It's it's it's getting ridiculous. We can't like,
54:10
we can't have like a father's month that would I guess be Oh, this
54:15
is what I wanted to say. There's all of this concern over the fact
54:19
that the identity of women. Did you did you see the the Hopkins the
54:24
uh that big medical site that replaced lesbian with a non math Oh. I
54:32
heard about that, but I didn't I didn't look I heard about it,
54:37
but I did not look into it. Like I was just like, all
54:39
right, I already know where this is going. So yeah, but I'm
54:44
just like looking at this and I'm thinking, you know, yeah, what
54:50
did you sort of like when when you when you get rid of the biological
54:55
category of man, which governists had to to underpin their theories about men oppressing
55:00
women, rather than it just being biological sex roles. I'm sorry. In
55:06
the males in almost every social mammal species are more likely to be out front
55:10
and between the social group and danger or providing so yeah, or singing or
55:20
having really crazy plumage like it's these are gender roles and and but you get
55:27
rid of that in order to shore up this idea that women being excluded from
55:30
men's gender role is actual oppression, not biology, which really means at the
55:37
end of the day, it means that no, men can't have a something
55:42
to themselves, like they can't have a behavioral matrix to themselves. It's not
55:46
to say that there can't be men who don't necessarily evince all of the behaviors
55:52
or strongly, or that they're not necessarily men. That men have their own
55:57
set of behaviors, the own set of virtues extet you can't have because you're
56:00
excluding women from it. But once you get rid of men, women become
56:06
the generic category of human and you can't you cannot exclude you can't. Actually
56:15
in that context, you can't create anything unique for women. And the reason
56:20
why is if you say that women are uniquely compassionate, why are you saying
56:25
You're saying that men are callous? Right, But when you say that men
56:31
are callous, there is a good thing to be in callous. So,
56:36
for example, women are uniquely nurturing. Therefore they want to make sure everybody
56:42
gets something according to their needs and not what they've earned. Well, that
56:47
means that men's callousness inclines them towards creating and maintaining meritocracies in which people get
56:55
what they earn and not what they need. So you can't say women are
57:00
we women are nurturing without saying men are more callous. And even if you
57:04
praise it as a negative, there's a positive that comes out of it.
57:07
So in order to maintain this idea that men have nothing that women don't,
57:13
eventually you have to say that women have nothing that men don't and enter the
57:17
trans women. Yep, I mean I get where I know, I get
57:22
where it's coming from at all. Yeah I don't. I don't think it's
57:27
a solution, But yeah I don't. I don't think it's no, I
57:31
know, it's it's understandable why it happens, and it's it's the main reason
57:36
for this is that like while everyone's out here saying what is a woman,
57:38
they're not asking what is a man? So when you have non man,
57:42
it's like, what do you mean, like a non non because men don't
57:45
have identity either, So like what you know, you just didn't notice?
57:50
So what is what is a non man? It's nothing? But yeah,
57:55
it's just I'm just saying there's a reciprocrocity here. If you get rid of
58:00
anything unique to men, you get rid of anything unique to women. Yeah.
58:04
When you get rid of the possibility of any kind of gender binary,
58:07
you get rid of the possibility of women period. Yeah, like you just
58:13
lose it. There's nothing that women can be that men aren't. Also,
58:16
because if as soon as you say women are more nurturing, you say men
58:20
are more callous, then you're setting something up and you can also see how
58:23
it might benefit the world sometimes be a little more chalous. Yep, Actually
58:31
did I say? Actually no, no, I gotta I got a super
58:35
I got a super chat that I wanted to use this for. But I'm
58:37
going to read some super chats. I'm displaying the screen right now. So
58:43
Albert Nada retro gives us two super chats, one for five fifty Canadian and
58:49
the other one for five fifty Canadian And the first one he says, sixty
58:52
two years to get Father's Day accepted. Women most affected. I'm sure,
58:59
well there it is, right, because like, what what was the what's
59:01
the what are they doing now that this woman worked sixty two years after another
59:07
woman, you know, worked a couple of years to get like just her
59:09
local you know, church to sort of recognize fathers after a terrible tragedy took
59:16
the lives of hundreds, essentially separating thousands of children from their fathers. And
59:23
then this other woman takes sixty some odd years to get this and made into
59:28
like a federal holiday to acknowledge or recognize men's contributions. What we got now,
59:35
well, now we're supposed to spend Father's Day celebrating single moms and just
59:39
giving it to moms. Now they just want to take it away and make
59:43
it theirs. Yeah. So yeah, women are most affected because they're always
59:46
most affected. And there's another angle to this as well, And I hope
59:52
this isn't insulting, it might be. I think it's true. There's a
59:57
tendency that I've seen, and it's really promis in feminist men that they want
1:00:01
to attribute everything positive that they do not to their masculinity, but to some
1:00:07
individuality, even if it's the most trivial thing, Like I care about women,
1:00:10
Yes, like every fucking man who's not a gonk, like his brain
1:00:17
isn't gounked you care about? Don't mean those robots from Star Wars, those
1:00:22
droids that are just like two little like vacuum tube legs and a big block
1:00:27
body. That's the gonk. You know what I'm talking about. I'm sure
1:00:30
the people in the chat and know what I'm talking about. It looks like
1:00:34
a big metal it's a droid. It has like two little stubby like vacuum
1:00:39
tube legs and a big square body. It was one of those things that
1:00:43
obviously, like Lucas was smoking pot and he was like, we need a
1:00:45
droid here, and so I was like, how about this. I'll take
1:00:47
this trash can and I'll put legs on it. Anyway, that's a gonk.
1:00:53
It's because they make a sound. They make the gonk sound, so
1:00:58
okay, Well that isn't quite what I was going for, but it is
1:01:00
hilarious nonetheless. But yeah, but it's like there is a tendency for men,
1:01:06
and it's not as I don't think it's as prominent as more traditional or
1:01:09
conservative men, interestingly enough, but for men to want to regard positive aspects
1:01:16
of their being to be solely due to their individual merit rather than something they
1:01:21
share with other men, because that's gay. M Yeah. Yeah, and
1:01:25
but but you remember while I was talking about the feminists on Yeah, when
1:01:30
we were doing the jubilee thing with the feminist men against the non feminist women,
1:01:34
I mean said something actually really freaking hilarious because I pointed out that this
1:01:37
one dude's like, everything is about my individual heroic merit, and I am
1:01:43
the old I don't feel like sharing that with any other man. I'm the
1:01:46
blah blah blah. Yeah. Yeah, he was like his great achievement,
1:01:51
I guess was not raping women or something. Yeah, He's like, well,
1:01:53
i'mlike the rest of you plebs. I don't rape women when I feel
1:01:57
horny. It's like, whoa, thanks for that. Yeah. Also,
1:02:00
I think you said something that's a pretty low bar. Yeah it is.
1:02:05
Yeah, it's a pretty low bar for being an acceptable human being. I
1:02:09
don't commit I ever burdened anybody this week. That's good to know to his
1:02:17
individual merit rather than something that is he shares with other men. That's what
1:02:22
I'm getting at. No, I think that it's not a coincidence that it
1:02:28
was women who wanted to see this happen. It's also not a coincidence that
1:02:31
they were basically stamped down and it's all and apparently they didn't get any help
1:02:37
except for Richard Nixon. Huh, yeah, I know, I know.
1:02:43
You know what, though, I gotta say, Okay, I'm not I'm
1:02:45
not making any declarative statements here, but I'm actually kind of interested in looking
1:02:49
into Richard Nixon a little bit more because I feel like we've been lied to
1:02:53
about him. I'm just saying I'll look into it. I feel like there's
1:02:58
some there's more there than what we are shown because of everything that I've seen,
1:03:02
you know, so it was a simpler time. Yeah, today,
1:03:07
I don't even think that would be a scandal. No, I know,
1:03:10
but not just that. I mean, you're right, it wouldn't be I
1:03:14
mean, at least depending on who the person that's being accused is But I
1:03:19
just think like there might be more of the story because I okay, so
1:03:22
I watched I don't want to get into it, but I watched this this
1:03:23
video that Razorfists made on his channel called Raja Halleck, and it's about forty
1:03:29
minutes long and it's about Abraham Lincoln and it was mind blowing, like the
1:03:34
stuff that I learned about Abraham Lincoln. And I think that, you know,
1:03:38
Razorfist does his homework. You know, he did a really great video
1:03:43
on Michael Jackson defending his defending his innocence. But the but again, like
1:03:49
the average Norman, if you asked him about Michael Jackson, I'll be oh,
1:03:52
wasn't you touching little boys? So I think that there is like what
1:03:54
we're told about people and then there's the reality and sometimes that's just it's just
1:04:00
not clear cut. That's my only thing. Abraham Lincoln kind of blows my
1:04:04
mind. Don't get on the bad side of the CIA. Yeah, that's
1:04:09
that's what I would say. Yes, But okay, anyway, but at
1:04:13
least it wasn't you know, at least he wasn't executed by you know,
1:04:17
not the CIA. Sorry, Yeah, exactly. He didn't just end up
1:04:21
not hanging himself with paper or being shot in a car. Yeah, oh
1:04:31
yeah, sure, Okay, yeah, I hear Robert Kennedy. The guy
1:04:35
is like the actual like son I think of jfk Um. He's like running
1:04:41
for president. Or he's a relative, he's part of the Kennedy family.
1:04:43
I don't know exactly. He is a nephew, right, he is.
1:04:46
He is worried about his life. He said that in Yeah, I think
1:04:51
so. I think so. So anyway, I was like listening to him
1:04:56
and I'm like, Okay, are you really like I really want to say
1:05:00
this. Yeah, Well, he's been pretty vocal on the he is not
1:05:04
like there's no freaking filter on him. No, he's been pretty vocal on
1:05:09
the Schman schmimic stuff. So that's allowed to be a Democrat. Like,
1:05:15
uh, he's definitely in the Tulsi Gabbard spot. So I like him though,
1:05:20
you know, I said to I said to Lindsay's, I was like,
1:05:24
yeah, I'm basically prepared to vote for Trump if he's like the nominee.
1:05:27
But I said, if it doesn't work out and it comes down to
1:05:30
like you know, the Democrats have like if if it's Robert Kennedy, which
1:05:32
I don't think it will because I don't think to let it happen, I'd
1:05:35
vote for him. I'd be okay with that, you know. So,
1:05:40
um because yeah, I can like people's policies despite their party affiliation doesn't really
1:05:46
matter to me. So I'm I'm not like that's well, it's off the
1:05:51
CIA. Yeah, who pisses off the the the FBI and the CIA the
1:05:56
most. Yeah, who's gonna go? Yeah? Alphabet agencies and the isn't
1:06:00
the coincidence they are the alphabet? Yeah, they are basically the the the
1:06:06
muscle of the g mafia in a lot of ways. Um, but anyway,
1:06:12
okay, so yeah, I did want to actually do thank you because
1:06:15
someone puts something through for the thank you. Yes, okay, I am
1:06:21
really hoping this is not sobody's name shah Shoo Gaga shell like Gaga wisdom Dog.
1:06:33
Yeah you do you know the wisdom Dog? No you don't, Sorry,
1:06:44
I will find it for I'm okay, all right, the Wisdom Dog.
1:06:48
Find it. As an aside too. I think maybe we can do
1:06:53
a little thing on this. I sent you that clip from the show The
1:06:56
Venture Brothers. They might even remember the Venture brothers. Um, I shouldn't
1:07:00
I think that? Yeah, the one the parody of the Scooby Gang.
1:07:04
So I learned today that they're releasing a second season of Velma. Oh yeah,
1:07:11
they're the The rumor has it that they made both. Yeah, they
1:07:16
probably did, because they may as well as release it. But they did
1:07:23
it much better. They parodied Scooby Doo so good. It was hilarious.
1:07:29
Dog of Wisdom ten hours, Oh my god, we don't have no,
1:07:31
no, not ten hours. Oh sorry, you put it. I'll get
1:07:35
you the one minute Dog of Wisdom. Okay, all right, all right,
1:07:40
just give me a second, let me read, let me read the
1:07:42
other super chat while you're doing that. Okay. So Alburnata retro gives us
1:07:46
another five fifty, like I said, Canadian and says, actually, Cussler
1:07:53
was the Battle of Little Big Horn. James Bowie, William B. Travis,
1:07:57
and David Crockett. Davy Crockett, king of the Wild Frontier, among
1:08:00
others, died at the Alamo. So thank you for that correction. Um.
1:08:09
Actually, and then albertata rotroukis is two dollars and twenty cents Canadian and
1:08:12
says add from that watch company nailed. What is a man you're talking about
1:08:16
e guard watches. That guy's pretty pretty freaking cool, very common sense dude,
1:08:23
you know, and doesn't have a problem honoring men. I mean,
1:08:27
it's wild, it's a wild thing, apparently very controversial, but not a
1:08:32
problem doing it. So all right, so let's do I guess we'll look
1:08:38
at this Dog of Wisdom thing. I don't think it's compromented, but yeah,
1:08:43
it's only a minute long, so I'll just play it. Let's see
1:08:46
if worst case scenario is that, you know, we will lose the the
1:08:50
ad revenue that we're not going to make, So all right, let's play
1:08:55
it. Papa daaka Hatanda papapatakar bah bah bahbah bah Papa Baba baba ba ba
1:09:13
ba ba. Oh, I'm sorry I didn't put it on the screen.
1:09:16
Let me let me uh, I'll go back. We'll watch. We gotta
1:09:20
watch from the beginning because there's so many plot twists and stuff in this.
1:09:25
It'stak Hatanda Papa bah bah bahbah Bah, Papa Baba baba ba ba ba ba
1:09:43
Baapaa Hama ha ha ha ha ha hanta pantaka hapaapaa haa, Okay, it's
1:10:29
definitely Alison humor. Um meant to be understood, it's meant to be felt.
1:10:34
I know it's deely. I recognize that. And now I'm going to
1:10:38
bark it nothing. Yeah that was funky Town, wasn't it? Um?
1:10:46
Let me know it wasn't. It wasn't fucking town. It was um.
1:10:54
Okay, go back a bit, go back, and I removed it.
1:10:58
I closed the window so I will look at it. I will. It
1:11:00
will remain a mystery to me, and perhaps one day I will learn the
1:11:05
true wisdom behind the dog of wisdom because I'm sure that I missed something really
1:11:11
deep. Oh oh oh that's the song from the Last the Greatest American Hero.
1:11:17
I guess it does sound kind of similar. Yeah, so yeah,
1:11:20
anyway, this is a long digression. Yeah, super thank you. A
1:11:26
weird digression, but I guess it was necessary. Yes, well I needed
1:11:31
to. Next time, yeah, like, next time we do a video,
1:11:36
I want to tell you about my adventures and trying to get a second
1:11:39
dog, because um yeah, we're trying to get a second dog, or
1:11:43
we were. We might wait a little bit because Jojo is uh like he
1:11:49
has real problems with us leaving him alone, and so we need to find
1:11:54
people watch him, and we do have someone who helps us with that sometimes,
1:11:59
But if he has another heartbeat in the room, I think he's okay.
1:12:02
So like if I leave him with someone else, he's he doesn't freak
1:12:05
out, And if he's with another dog, he'll just hang out with that
1:12:10
dog. I was just cat cats. No, not just because I'm allergic,
1:12:16
but because Jojo. I don't know what he would do, because you
1:12:19
know, sometimes I'll walk up in the neighborhood and he'll see a cat and
1:12:23
he's on a whole other level of excited. I don't know if he's gonna
1:12:27
just smell it or if he's gonna kill it so or try to. Anyway,
1:12:31
recently, Skippy chased the cat. I mean the way that it the
1:12:35
way that it's um, the way that it happened probably wasn't his fault.
1:12:42
I heard you groan, so maybe I shouldn't continue. No, no,
1:12:45
no, no, no, it wasn't that I was stretching. I'm sorry,
1:12:46
I'm not I was stretching and sitting down. I'm okay, fair enough.
1:12:51
Um, I don't know it was this really, because when we initially
1:12:56
had Skippy actually wasn't. One of our cats actually wasn't initially. It was
1:13:00
a few months later. It was after one of our cats died and the
1:13:03
other cats came back from exile um, and that one of our cats was
1:13:09
able to open a door with a with a a lever handle, if you
1:13:14
know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, and he kept opening the
1:13:17
door and then all the cats would escape. Oh yeah, sure. Ended
1:13:21
up happening is I would we would use or I would send Skippy out to
1:13:25
go and get the cats. And I don't know what he did. He
1:13:30
communicated, but he would like, yeah he would well he wouldn't round them
1:13:33
up into one location, but what would he do. He'd find the cat
1:13:36
that had escaped, and he would like touch them with his nose. And
1:13:42
then it was almost like that was like tag you're you know, you're out
1:13:45
and just sitting there. Yeah, yeah, you know, they just sit
1:13:49
just sit there. Yeah. And then we would pick them up like you're
1:13:53
picking up like from from below a tree and just bring them back in and
1:13:57
he would tag them. But what happened recently there was a neighbor's cat,
1:14:01
I think it's a neighbor's cat, and he was sitting on a bridge that
1:14:03
we go across during our walk. It's just a small, little like bridge,
1:14:09
maybe seven feet long. And Jonathan approached him, and Skippy was just
1:14:14
sitting on the other side of the bridge watching all of this, and he
1:14:16
didn't do anything. He saw the cat, didn't do anything. Saw Jonathan
1:14:19
approached the cat, didn't do anything. Then Jonathan was like, I'm going
1:14:24
to touch this cat, and the cat was like, no, you're not,
1:14:26
and he's sort of like scooted away about five and then it was on
1:14:30
Yeah, it was like nope, that's not what you do cat. So
1:14:34
yeah, so he was like probably guarding Jonathan from the cat, like thought
1:14:39
the cat was going to do something. Well, because your dog grew up,
1:14:43
grew up around cats, he's definitely fine. But Jodo has never been
1:14:46
around cats. He finds them fascinating creatures like the possums, raccoons, squirrels
1:14:54
and deer and rabbits. We got we got bunnies around here, man.
1:14:58
Jojo loses his mind when he sees the bunny. He just he's like,
1:15:01
I'm gonna I'm gonna catch it. De Yeah, we have deer. Yeah,
1:15:05
we have deer. Usually there they come out like kind of like when
1:15:10
it starts to when the sun starts to go down, they start walking around
1:15:14
in the streets. You have to be careful if you're driving obviously. Um
1:15:17
there's one like I saw this baby deer. It looked just like the deer
1:15:23
from Bambi, like like literally with the spots and everything, and it was
1:15:28
he was like clumsily trying to walk, you know, because I guess he
1:15:30
was just he must have been just born like yesterday, and uh yeah,
1:15:35
I had to stop and wait for him to pass. And this the deer
1:15:40
just they just got balls of steel when they're out. I mean, they
1:15:42
don't give a fuck. So um, but generally people don't, like they're
1:15:46
very aware and they're careful around the deer. Unfortunately, though, the other
1:15:53
like um, rabbits, but especially possums and raccoons, they end up getting
1:16:00
killed. And then the vultures, because we have vultures, will come along
1:16:02
and move them to the side of the road. It's you know, it's
1:16:06
nature. You could you could, like David Attenborough could like narrate my day
1:16:13
because I see so many little critters around. So yeah, we see a
1:16:17
lot of mule, deer and moose, yeah, see there obviously there's no
1:16:23
moose here, but a couple of weeks ago we saw some dead mule deer
1:16:26
and they were being feasted upon by farm dogs. M that's weird. But
1:16:31
yeah, he Skippy does not like deer. He's convinced there's some kind of
1:16:36
win dingo when whendigo when good? Yeah, whendigo or something something that that's
1:16:45
evil. Yeah, but um, anyway, I should get back to on
1:16:47
topic. So, well, you you are gonna give me the thank you,
1:16:53
so I guess just tell me what like the uh what was the amount?
1:16:56
And I can wake fifty dollars ooh Chillagaga, thank you come again?
1:17:05
Okay, And if you would like to join Lagaga you see why I was
1:17:13
like that, that sounds almost like the dog gossom Yeah, a little bit
1:17:17
maybe not um. If you would like to join our him or her or
1:17:25
zaire, please go to feed the Badger dot com slash. I am trying
1:17:30
to get the funds together to edit the first book. Very expensive process.
1:17:35
I think that's why people send their books off to publishers so they don't have
1:17:39
to front the money for this. But I don't think I would get a
1:17:42
publisher, not even Baine. I think I'm I don't know if it's something
1:17:46
too toxic or just just who knows. But anyway, I don't mean literally,
1:17:50
I mean like you know what I mean? You mean Baine from like
1:17:55
like Batman? No, say it again? It again? Do you fool
1:18:05
in charge? You're the darkness? Oh the the audience knows. Yeah,
1:18:15
you know. It would be very good what I kept cutting out during them?
1:18:24
Oh if data, Oh I maybe I'm peaking a little bit. Yeah.
1:18:28
Um. And I might be low too, so tell us in the
1:18:30
comments if I'm low. But anyway, if you'd like to join the people
1:18:32
who are helping me out, I would very much appreciate it. I would.
1:18:36
I would really like to be able to include some writing and justify it
1:18:42
by actually having a salable product. Um. So if you'd like to help
1:18:46
me out with that, it's it's something that it helps me get through the
1:18:50
day, shall we say, And it can be quite difficult this work.
1:18:55
I'm pretty sure that Brian can attest to that. Yeah. Um. And
1:19:00
so anyway, feed the Badger dot com slash I to help me out with
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that and potentially bring an interesting story to market. So there you go,
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Feed the Badger dot com slash the eye or slash I know the just I
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e ye, there you go, all right, it's probably it's probably a
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link on the main page. We just go to feed the Badger dot com.
1:19:20
Right, yeah, yeah for now, yeah there is all right.
1:19:26
So what all that said, Thanks guys for coming on today's day. Yeah,
1:19:30
I was gonna say that. So, Happy Father's Day to fathers and
1:19:33
to people with fathers, which is basically everybody, um, and I hope
1:19:38
that you are, you know, either a father with a relationship to your
1:19:43
family, to your children, or you are a child or or you have
1:19:46
a relationship with your father and that um, you know, you all understand
1:19:50
the importance of fathers and where this day comes from, you know, um,
1:19:58
which is a tragic. But at the same time, I'm I think
1:20:00
that Father's Day is a great day to to uh sort of keep in mind.
1:20:04
So anyway, with all that said, if you guys liked this video,
1:20:09
please hit lol. Gives us five dollars and says when Doc, when
1:20:17
Doc, I don't know when, when when Dingo or when Dado? The
1:20:25
weendigo is uh like, isn't it like a curse that like if you eat
1:20:29
human meat in the in the north, you turn into like a kind of
1:20:32
a fair old big foot. I remember the whend Togo from the X Men
1:20:38
arcade game because all it would do is say when diego and then like you
1:20:43
know, if you guys remember the beat him up the X Men one from
1:20:45
like the eighties or nineties anyway, Okay, so thank you for the supercow
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1:21:01
Happy Father's Day to everyone and we will yeah, go ahead, oh
1:21:08
yeah, Happy Father's Day. And no happy for actual fathers and men who
1:21:12
provide. Yeah, like actual father, not single mother. This is not
1:21:15
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1:21:24
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