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Mark Belling Podcast #119: Gen Z vs. the Baby Boomers—-who really has/had it easy? A Waukesha County judge goes lenient on a guy who four times fled from police in his car. And, Florida's Governor now wants to get rid of most property taxes in a state that has no income tax; how do they do it?? · The Mark Belling Podcast

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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there's always been a generation gap. That
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  Speaker 2: was the term they used when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 2: generation gap, and it was huge. When I was a kid,
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  Speaker 2: I was a baby boomer, and there was a massive
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  Speaker 2: gap between us and our parents. We didn't know where
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  Speaker 2: a baby boomers then. I don't know when that term
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  Speaker 2: came around, but the term for our parents became the
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  Speaker 2: greatest generation. That was the term that kind of Tom
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  Speaker 2: Brokaw coined in writing about the World War II generation.
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  Speaker 2: There's a huge gap then, and there's been gaps forever
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  Speaker 2: and ever and ever, and there's one going on right now.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a few things interesting about it, including the
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  Speaker 2: fact that this one skips a generation. There is a
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  Speaker 2: clear divide between gen Z, those are the people roughly
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  Speaker 2: twenty five and under and the baby boys. And it
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  Speaker 2: got exacerbated by a segment that occurred on CNN a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks ago when Kevin o'larry, the guy from Shark Tank,
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  Speaker 2: mister wonderful's his nickname. When on there, and he was
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  Speaker 2: complaining about the gen z yers that are whining they
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  Speaker 2: don't have enough money when they're eating twenty eight dollar
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  Speaker 2: lunches and running Starbucks all the time to have latte
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  Speaker 2: this and latte that. He rolls their eyes and says, well,
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  Speaker 2: of course you don't have any money when you spend
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  Speaker 2: it so idiotically. You're twenty five years old, you're twenty
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  Speaker 2: two years old. Why are you spending this kind of
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  Speaker 2: money and why are you wasting money on this sort
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  Speaker 2: of crap? Now? And the gen zers have blown up.
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  Speaker 2: They think o'leiri is out of touch, and they say
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  Speaker 2: the baby boomers had it so soft. Well, I think
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  Speaker 2: that this is a fascinating discussion. There's an essay that's
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  Speaker 2: This piece was posted today on Foxnews dot com by Dange.
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  Speaker 2: He's diving into this whole gen Z versus the baby
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  Speaker 2: boom which really erupted you in this backlash to the
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  Speaker 2: comments that were made by Kevin o'larry. Now, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to share his piece. I don't necessarily endorse his thoughts,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna use it as the launching off point
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  Speaker 2: to get into my own he writes, and again, this
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  Speaker 2: is the voice of Dan Gaynor. I'm a boomer a
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  Speaker 2: few months older than former President Barack Obama, but say
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  Speaker 2: that online today and it's like admitting to a war crime.
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  Speaker 2: The news is full of socialists calling for more taxes,
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  Speaker 2: wealth taxes, etc. That would let big government keep taking
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  Speaker 2: from successful people for being successful. The New York Times
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  Speaker 2: just ran the case for California's billionaire wealth tax, which
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  Speaker 2: officials are learning is also the case for millionaires to
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  Speaker 2: move to Saner States. Going apparently is a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: For months, social media has witnessed a generation gap the
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  Speaker 2: size of the Grand Canyon. Many and gen Z are
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  Speaker 2: venomously angry at the boomer generation over financial issues, but
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  Speaker 2: nothing set them off more than Shark Tank star Kevin O. Leary,
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  Speaker 2: who blamed young people for foolish spending. Quote, I can
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  Speaker 2: stand it when I see kids that are making seventy
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  Speaker 2: grand a year spending twenty eight dollars for lunch. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's just stupid, he said. It was the comment that
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  Speaker 2: launched a billion replies and counting. It landed after criticism
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  Speaker 2: of excess Starbucks and door dash spending among young people,
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  Speaker 2: this was the last draw. Gen Z responded that boomers
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  Speaker 2: had it easy in post World War two America, low
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  Speaker 2: housing costs, cheap college, in at jobs. Boomers knew that
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  Speaker 2: that was wrong because we lived it. But the thing is,
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  Speaker 2: the young people aren't entirely wrong about their own situation either,
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  Speaker 2: because they are living it. Both sides need to listen
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  Speaker 2: to one another. So let's start with a history lesson
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  Speaker 2: in slightly more orderly fashion than a Billy Joel song
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  Speaker 2: from my fellow boomers. Boomers grew up after World War Two,
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  Speaker 2: but we were the first to live under the constant
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  Speaker 2: threat of nuclear war. My generation dove under desks to
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  Speaker 2: practice hiding from nuclear attack. Good luck with that, but
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  Speaker 2: we did it. We lived through the constant riots and
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  Speaker 2: unrest of the nineteen sixties, Vietnam protests, assassinations of leaders
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  Speaker 2: from John F. Kennedy to Martin Luther King. We sat
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  Speaker 2: in gas lines during the Arab oil embargo or watched
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  Speaker 2: others do it when you had to buy gas on
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  Speaker 2: alternate days. We lived through Watergate and endured the Jimmy
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  Speaker 2: Carter presidency of sweaters and malaise. We had ten percent
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  Speaker 2: unemployment and eighteen percent mortgage rates throwing the Cold War,
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  Speaker 2: the dot Com crash nine to eleven, the Great Recession,
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  Speaker 2: COVID nineteen, and who knows what else. Most of us
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  Speaker 2: don't have pensions. We got four oh one k's in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one. Pensions stopped working because workers either switched
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  Speaker 2: jobs and lost their retirements or the companies went under.
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  Speaker 2: Four oh one k's were designed to be portable, so
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  Speaker 2: you could have a retirement even after you left, except
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  Speaker 2: the responsibility got dumped on us to fund them. We
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  Speaker 2: didn't have air conditioning. We had fans. We had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of TV channels, not hundreds. Hand me down clothes
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  Speaker 2: were a fact of life. There were few meals out.
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  Speaker 2: There were a few meals out, day trips, no long vacations,
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  Speaker 2: store black and white TV and more. We didn't grow
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  Speaker 2: up with cell phones, streaming services, the internet, and home computers.
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  Speaker 2: All that hit during our careers and we had to adapt.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't sound easy, does it, But it was easier than
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  Speaker 2: our parents had it. Our parents were from the Great Depression.
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  Speaker 2: They knew true hardship. They lived through twenty five percent
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  Speaker 2: unemployment and a stock market crash so enormous it scarred
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  Speaker 2: people for generations. There was no safety debt. They endured
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  Speaker 2: because they had no other choice. When things got better,
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  Speaker 2: they saved. Boomer adults tried to do better for themselves
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  Speaker 2: and their kids. But now gen Z blames them for
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  Speaker 2: the ills of the world, especially the prices of housing,
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  Speaker 2: health care, and inflation. They are right that all of
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  Speaker 2: those things are insane. Right now, Let's point a few
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  Speaker 2: fingers though. Housing gets a lot worse when you let
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  Speaker 2: twenty million illegal immigrants. They might not be buying those houses,
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  Speaker 2: but they are living somewhere, and that creates pressure on prices.
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  Speaker 2: Thank Team Biden for much of that. Healthcare is an
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  Speaker 2: epic problem, but Obama Care made it massively worse. Even
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  Speaker 2: if we liked our doctor, we didn't get to keep him,
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  Speaker 2: and the price of a basic policy now costs the
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  Speaker 2: arm and the leg you want the doctor to treat.
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  Speaker 2: Education has snowballed. Government loans made it easy for leftist
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  Speaker 2: run schools to keep raising the cost of education because
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  Speaker 2: it seems like young people would keep paying, and they did.
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  Speaker 2: Big government socialist policies hurt in the long run, and
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  Speaker 2: the long run takes us to current events. Instead of fighting,
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  Speaker 2: we should all want to make things easier on gen Z,
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  Speaker 2: just as our parents wanted things to be eaten better
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  Speaker 2: for us. First, everyone should stop wasteful spending gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: We did. I packed a lunch most days from my
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  Speaker 2: entire career. Most people I not died. Being frugal is smart,
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  Speaker 2: But no one on as saving is going to fix this.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start with the number one problem. Young people have,
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  Speaker 2: student debt. We should let every American with a college
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  Speaker 2: loan reference it at zero points zero princent interest. As
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  Speaker 2: long as they keep paying reliably. You agree to the cost,
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  Speaker 2: so you have to pay it. That should satisfy boomers,
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  Speaker 2: but we didn't want to cripple you pay for the
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  Speaker 2: refinancing by taxing colleges in university endowments over one hundred
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  Speaker 2: million dollars at fifty percent. Harvard University's endowment was fifty
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  Speaker 2: six point nine billion at the end of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: While we're at it, we should get government out of
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  Speaker 2: student loans entirely. That's a start, but it's barely scratching
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  Speaker 2: the service. That's because young people are worried in ways
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  Speaker 2: that you might seem before that you might have seen
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  Speaker 2: before a huge war. They are operating under a dark
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  Speaker 2: cloud in fear, not just for their jobs, with their survival.
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  Speaker 2: Will AI make every career choice a bad one, Will
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  Speaker 2: anyone hire them? Or will they get stuck begging Uncle
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  Speaker 2: Sam for a handout. They are right to be worried
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  Speaker 2: about an AI future. I lived through the collapse of
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  Speaker 2: journalism and watch several places I had worked go out
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  Speaker 2: of business and friends lose their jobs. That was just
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  Speaker 2: one sector of the economy. AI could reset every sector,
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  Speaker 2: and young people don't know what it will mean. No
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  Speaker 2: one does. That's when we need to address all these
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  Speaker 2: things together, Generational warfare doesn't help anyone. That piece was
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  Speaker 2: written by Dan Gator. All right, my thoughts on this,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna break it up into several areas. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: we have had with each successive generation historical illiteracy. I
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  Speaker 2: know those words don't go together, but it works for me.
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  Speaker 2: When I was in grade school, history barely got to
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  Speaker 2: World War Two. The teachers never finished the coursework on time.
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  Speaker 2: Then the Millennials came around and they didn't even have history.
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  Speaker 2: They had social studies. Because nobody really knows much of
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  Speaker 2: anything about what happened in the past. Everyone thinks that
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  Speaker 2: people before them had it softer. One of the reasons
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  Speaker 2: that Baby Boomer's the generation I'm in, and we'll get
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  Speaker 2: to the we'll get to the two in the middle,
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  Speaker 2: the Generation xers and the Millennials in a moment get
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  Speaker 2: upset with the whining from the Gen zs is when
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  Speaker 2: they say, well, you guys had it so soft. Everything
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  Speaker 2: was less expensive. Now, Baby Boom is a long period
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  Speaker 2: of time, eighteen years. But when I got out of
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  Speaker 2: college it was right in the middle of Jimmy Carter.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was double digit Unemployment was terrible. Thankfully, I was
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  Speaker 2: unbelievably talented in my field, but I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: long it would have taken me to get my first
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  Speaker 2: job had I not known the guy who hired me
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  Speaker 2: at a radio station. The gen z Ers talk about
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  Speaker 2: housing being unaffordable. Housing was impossible what I was doing.
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  Speaker 2: You had a rent for the longest time because mortgages
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  Speaker 2: were well over ten percent. Inflation was out of control.
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  Speaker 2: So when they suggest that baby boomers had it really
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  Speaker 2: easy when they were young, that's preposterous. The Carter economy,
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  Speaker 2: which overlapped into Ragan, who fixed it but it took
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  Speaker 2: two years, was undeniably worse than the one right now.
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  Speaker 2: There is a lifestyle difference, and it's the one that
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  Speaker 2: the gen z Yers don't want to hear about. On
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  Speaker 2: the other hand, I'll acknowledge that when I was a kid,
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  Speaker 2: my parents and grandparents thought we did all sorts of
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  Speaker 2: things that were insane and we had it too soft.
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  Speaker 2: Every older generation looks out at a generation younger than
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  Speaker 2: them and thinks they spend too much money. But the
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  Speaker 2: fact of the matter is they may be right. I
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  Speaker 2: make a decent amount of money right now. Everybody knows that.
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  Speaker 2: But for the first fifteen years of my professional career.
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  Speaker 2: At first ten years, I made nothing and I had
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  Speaker 2: a big job. I was moved from city to city,
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  Speaker 2: but I was always a radio news director. When I
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  Speaker 2: was in Springfield for five years, I also ran a
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  Speaker 2: state capitol news service, and I was the morning news
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  Speaker 2: anchor at a successful station, Bricks. Sixty five seventy hours
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  Speaker 2: a week. I was, and I not. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't minimum wage, man, I'm telling you, it was clothes.
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  Speaker 2: When I went out. It was basically because I went
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  Speaker 2: to a bar, which I didn't do a lot of
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  Speaker 2: during that time because I was getting up too damnarily.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't eat out. Maybe if you had a date
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  Speaker 2: I was single. Remember Hamburger helper. That was what was
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  Speaker 2: huge when I was around. That's what we ate always.
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  Speaker 2: It boggles my mind that so many young people can't
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  Speaker 2: make their own food. Why do you have to DoorDash
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  Speaker 2: every night? It's pretty easy to cook, even if you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to eat all that process glop that we
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  Speaker 2: ate when we were younger. It's still way cheaper to
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  Speaker 2: buy something at the grocery store and make it yourself.
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  Speaker 2: And and I've been on this one forever as much money
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  Speaker 2: as I make. I can't understand why people pay money
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  Speaker 2: for coffee. I just can't. You know? Those what are
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  Speaker 2: they CA cups? Or is what do they call those things?
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  Speaker 2: The curing the CA cups?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: I have a CA cup machine at home because I
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  Speaker 2: don't make enough to have a whole pot. The CA
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  Speaker 2: cups are still more expensive than the regular thing, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot cheaper than going to Starbucks. And why
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  Speaker 2: do you need an orange crusted latte? This, that or
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  Speaker 2: the other thing. It blows my mind that people spend
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  Speaker 2: seven dollars for coffee and some of these are I
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  Speaker 2: just can't fathom it, and I can't bring myself to
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  Speaker 2: do it. The only time I would do it is
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: if I'm traveling, like at an airport or something like that,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: in I need the caffeine. Fortunately, here at our radio station,
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  Speaker 2: I know that this is about to end. There's a history,
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  Speaker 2: and as long as I've been in radio, the coffee
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  Speaker 2: has been free in the I don't know that all
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  Speaker 2: employers have it, but coffee machines have always exist. If
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  Speaker 2: you ever worked at a radio station with it in
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  Speaker 2: a free coffee, no, they always It's the only perk
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  Speaker 2: we have, so I'll drink coffee in the building, and
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  Speaker 2: I'll make coffee at home. I don't go to Starbucks,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't run to McDonald's or Duncan. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why you would do that. It just seems to
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  Speaker 2: me that it adds up to so much money. It
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  Speaker 2: reminds me of this. When I was in college, my
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  Speaker 2: freshman year, I started to do something really dumb. I
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  Speaker 2: started smoking cigarettes. It lasted two months. I never smoked
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  Speaker 2: a lot, thankfully, like and I didn't smoke in the
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  Speaker 2: dorm room. I would like smoke a cigarette on the
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  Speaker 2: way to like the cafeteria where we got our meal plans.
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  Speaker 2: This is we lived in the dorm for one year,
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  Speaker 2: and I was probably smoking two or three a day
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  Speaker 2: at most. You know why I stopped. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't seem to like it. I don't even know
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  Speaker 2: why I did it, other than Okay, now I'm off
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  Speaker 2: to college. I'm supposed to be an adult. Let's do something,
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  Speaker 2: which is why I just about everybody else did it.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't justify going to the university bookstore, which is
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: when they sold the cigarettes. That's also kind of amazing now,
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  Speaker 2: and spending the money, thank god, so I never ended
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  Speaker 2: up a dickted. I just quick because this is stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Why am I doing it? And I want to spend
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  Speaker 2: the money. I don't see much denial of frills by
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  Speaker 2: gen Z And this is the point that O'Leary was making.
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  Speaker 2: Then the travel. There are people in their twenties that
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  Speaker 2: go on better vacations than I go on. Now. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't go to Las Vegas until I think it was
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  Speaker 2: I was working in Madison, and that was on a
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  Speaker 2: convention where a com but he paid a portion of it.
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  Speaker 2: And until I started making money, the hotels I stayed
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  Speaker 2: in were only half a notch above dumps, because that's
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  Speaker 2: all I could afford. My first new car was in
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  Speaker 2: the eighties. I think it might have been the most
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: inexpensive new car sold that It was a Honda CRX.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: It was the first of the crxs. It was a
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  Speaker 2: two seater. I think it was like ninety five hundred,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars in nineteen eighty four. Is a great car,
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  Speaker 2: It was inexpensive. It was just a given that you
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  Speaker 2: didn't get unless you were born rich, or you were
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  Speaker 2: somebody that you were became a stockbroker or something. Those
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  Speaker 2: are the only people I knew in my twenties and
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: thirties born rich and they had one of those really
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  Speaker 2: high end jobs. They never had much money. Just the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: assumption was you didn't be it, you weren't able to
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  Speaker 2: do stuff like that you got older. The millennials started
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  Speaker 2: this and the gen Zs are following it that they
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  Speaker 2: feel this need to have a high end lifestyle at
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  Speaker 2: the beginning of their lives rather than the end of
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  Speaker 2: their lives. You're supposed to work and work and work
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  Speaker 2: and work and make a lot of money, and then
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  Speaker 2: by the time that you've stashed up some money, then
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  Speaker 2: you start spending on nice things. So this is where
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: this divide comes in. That delivery refers to from the
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  Speaker 2: perspective of the gen Zers. The writers said, well, they're
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: not entirely wrong either. They're not entirely wrong, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand. I don't think they understand the things that
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  Speaker 2: they're right about. The reason that some of the things
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  Speaker 2: cost as much as they do is because of things
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  Speaker 2: that they themselves believe in. University education cost is extremely
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: high because the cost of these universities has gotten bloated
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: because we've made student loans available. How many of the
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  Speaker 2: people taking out student loans worked while they were in college,
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  Speaker 2: not a lot. How many of them went to college
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  Speaker 2: when they knew that they knew that there was a
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  Speaker 2: very good chance they wouldn't complete a four year degree,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: meaning they wasted that time and wasted that money. All
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: of the other stuff that is inflated in cost is
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: because we pay the people who work for government a
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: lot of money, and we put too many positions in it,
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  Speaker 2: thus driving up all of these costs. So then when
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you propose all of your wealth taxes and so on,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: so you can get this stuff for free, do you
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  Speaker 2: understand that that just drives up the cost of everything
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: even more, because if we have provided some things for free,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: it means everything else is going to have to cost
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: more because the money comes from somewhere. In terms of
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the writer makes the point that you know, and I
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: understand that saying I just sound like all the old
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: farts sounded when I was a kid, Ah the cat,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I walked ninety seven miles one way to school, all
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: that crap, and you knew that they were exaggerating, But
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I also knew that there was a sense of truth
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: to it. The people older than me had it way
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: tougher than I was when I was a kid, but
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: at least I knew that. I think the gen z Ers,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and certainly the Millennials, who were more hedonistic, they didn't
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: know that. I remember there was this this talked about forever,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and I talked about it a lot. Ten fifteen, twenty
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: years ago, when the Millennials were coming of age, they
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: did a survey of millennials, and this was probably around
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: twenty ten twenty eleven, and they said they had it
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: worse than any generation in American history, and by every measure,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: they had it better. There were no wars at that time.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: This is when unemployment was virtually zero, inflation was manageable.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: They had almost no problems at all. Yet they felt
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: as though they had problems because they had been culturalized
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: by soft parents and then by the educators in school
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: telling them how terrible everything was. Because they were so coddled,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: they weren't prepared for the real world. Now. I think
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of the gen Zers want to get into
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the real world, as opposed to the Millennials, the ones
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: who wanted to stay living at home with mommy and
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: daddy forever and ever and ever. They want to get
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: into the real world. But now they're finding that the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: real world is expensive. The millennials were sheltered from those
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: expenses because, as I say, they were living at home
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and living off of mom and dad, and mom and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: dad were still paying for everything. The gen zeers, I think,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: show some sense of independence. They want to go do this,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: and they want to travel, etc. But they feel a
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: sense of entitlement to living a fifty five year old
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: lifestyle when they're twenty one years old. That's never been
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: the deal. The concerns they have over AI, that's certainly real.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows how AI is going to play out. The
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: flip side of that, however, is the gen Zers can't
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: make the mistake of the millennials in not developing in
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: themselves skills that will be of value in the marketplace. Now.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Admittedly AI is eliminating a lot of jobs the field
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: that I'm in broadcasting. AI has an other company, not AI,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: just but technology has wiped out almost all jobs I started.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: You know, TV didn't have any competition. Radio was the
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: only thing you could listen to in your car, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: so on. We now have the Internet, which allows an
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: infinite number of sources. It provides incredible pressure on advertised
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: advertising dollars, so everybody cuts. We're going a radio station
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: building in which the building's almost empty. There's hardly any
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: human beings left. I was able to survive because I
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: was really, really, really really good at it. But most
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: people who were very good as well couldn't survive. But
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: at least I had a skill for which there was
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: a demand. I admit, I'm glad I'm not thirty with
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: this skill, because how many podcasts can there be? But
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of the millennials went and spent a fortune,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: took out this massive student loan debt, not just to
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: pay their college expenses, but to give them extra money
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to live on because they were too lazy to work.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: And other than one or two majors, don't let anybody
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: tell you that college is so hard that you don't
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: have time to work. College is the softis experience in
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the United States of America, with the exception of two
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: or three majors, in which they have lots of labor,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: lab work, and the stuff is rigorous. I mean, if
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you looked at a college semester lately, the semester that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: we just ended, you are they had all the grad
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: they like graduate in May tenth. The semester starts January
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: twenty fifth. If they don't go to summer school, they
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: don't go back to college until after Labor Day and
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: winter break starts December tenth. That's a school here. A
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: full load of credits is like fifteen or sixteen that's
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: fifteen or sixteen hours of work. Hardly any students have
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: friday classes anymore, so they all have three day weekends.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: And then a huge number of them don't even work.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So they ended up going to college claiming it was
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: really tough, so they didn't have the ability to go
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: out there and work. Got a lot of degrees that
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: were useless that doesn't have any application in the workplace,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: don't have any skill that anybody needs. They're terribly underemployed.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And they wonder now with their college degree while they're
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: a DoorDash driver, Well that's still on them. No matter
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: what your age, you've got to size up what's going
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: on in the economy and figure out how to do
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: something that there's going to be a call for. Robots
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: may change this somewhat, but it sure seems to me
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that there's always going to be a need for certain
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: kinds of hands on work. Construction can become somewhat automated,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: but you look at a road crew, you still see
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: lots of people out there on a road crew. Down
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: in Florida, the high rises are still going on right
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and left, and there's massive work crews that are on them.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You need a plumber. Human being show up. You need
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: an electrician, human being show up. Your AC system fails,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: especially these big giant ones that service the big office
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: towers and the high rises. Human beings show up. You
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: can go throughout the list, but that's still on you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to figure out what it is that you're going to
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: be able to do and develop a skill that you're
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: good at so that you can be in some sort
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: of demand. And if you don't have a great skill,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: there's still going to be a call for certain types
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of labor. Getting back to the point the capital there
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: it raised. His point is valid. If times are tight
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: for you when you're young and costs are so high,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: it's just an obvious cut some stuff out. Everybody, no
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: matter how much money they make, has certain things that
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: they're a cheap skate on. I've got my own stuff
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: that I'm a cheap skate on. I'll try to park
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: on the street. I do not like to go to
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: pay and pay a lot of money to park in
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: a parking I just don't want to do it. As
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I said, I can't justify going to Starbucks. I still
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: can't justify eating lunch. Now. Part of it is the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: hours that I work. I don't think I've gone to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: lunch other than say what I'm in Florida where I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: goof off. Even there, I don't go to lunch. I
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: might go out to dinner. Why do you go to lunch?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: As long as I've been working in the workplace, I
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: have lunch in my office. I bring it in. Now
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: maybe it's occasionally you stop at Jimmy John's or something,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: which is like going out and then take it into
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the office. So what a Leary, who obviously has a
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: lot of money shark tank and the whole thing he's
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: eyeballing up some of these younger people that are doing
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: things that he didn't do when he was younger, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: clearly you don't need to do. His point is valid.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, the gen z ers are facing
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: cost pressures with the costs of certain things, not just inflation,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: even adjusted for inflation, certain things like healthcare and so
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: on have gone through the roof. But understand that the
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: thing that you see as the solution, to the extent
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that we've done some of those things already, that's what
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the costs are as high as they are. Obamacare has
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: wrecked healthcare and it's financing. It wasn't my side that
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: wanted Obamacare. One of the reasons that housing costs are
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: incredibly high is because we did allow zillions of illegal
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: immigrants in creating pressure on the overall housing market. They
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: move into some of the cheaper housing, it forces other
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: people into the other housing, and so on. The level
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of property taxation in our country is crazy. Look at
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: us at Wisconsin. We keep voting to raise our taxes
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to spend more and more and more money on the
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: schools that the gen Zers went to that have done
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: a crappy job of educating them. So this guy's calling
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: for peace talk saying that everybody needs to understand one another.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: The reality of it is is that just about every
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: generation has had it easier than the one before them.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I will grant you that there is an existential threat
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to gen Z and probably the millennials with AI and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: nobody knows exactly how it's going to play out. Generally speaking,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: throughout our history, when there's been a disruption that's eliminated
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: certain other jobs, it's created enough prosperity that there are
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: new jobs that are created in other fields. A perfect
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: example of that would be there were no podcasts a
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: few years ago. No, everybody under the sun is doing one,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: and some of us are even making a lot of
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: money at it. Let me move on. Ron DeSantis, the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: outgoing governor of Florida, he's term limited, so he'll be
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: leaving office after the November election, is now proposing a
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: special session of the Florida legislature so he can get
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: rid of property taxes. This is a big story, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: its impact goes way beyond Florida. Florida already has no
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: income tax. There's about twelve states in the United States
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: that don't have income tax So when you hear the
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: lefties who run the states that have them, and then
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the lefties who run the states that have extremely high
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: income taxes, when they say, well, of course we have
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to have them or we wouldn't have services, all you
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: have to do is point to the states that don't
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: have them. Florida doesn't have an income tax. They have
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: property taxes and sales taxes, and then all the regular
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: special taxes that everybody has, water fees, gas tax and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: so on. Desantas, who's leaving Florida, and some of the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: people criticizing this are saying, you're gonna be short of money.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: What does he care. He's proposing this right before he
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: gets out the door. It'll be the next governor that's
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: gonna have to deal with the shortfalls. There may be
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: truth to that. Nothing stopped round to Santas from proposing
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: this seven years ago when he was in its first
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: year as governor. Nonetheless, he says the numbers add up,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: and indeed Florida is running surpluses despite not having an
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: income to Tanx, one of the reasons they're running surpluses is
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: people are moving to the states and droves, and nown businesses.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: They're moving in droves because they're all going there not
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: only for the quality of life, but because the taxes
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: are so low. He's not eliminating all property taxes. They
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: would only be for people who live in one principal residence.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: In other words, if you own the place and live
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: in it, you wouldn't pay property taxes all rental property.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: The landlords and the corporations that own them, they would pay.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: They would pay the property taxes. If you own four properties,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: live in one and rent the three, you'd only be
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: eliminating the property taxes on the one. And you have
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: to have been there for five years, so anybody who
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: just came in wouldn't be able to do it. You
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: have to establish residency for five years before it would apply. Now,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: if it succeeds, obviously, it goes a long way toward
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: making home ownership in Florida more affordable by wiping out
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: property taxes. Their property taxes are I won't the people
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: down there bitch constantly about how high they are, but
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: they're lower than Wisconsins. Now, the property valuations in Florida
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: are higher than Wisconsin, but the amount of tax per
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: SAE one hundred thousand dollars of assess valuation is significantly
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: lower in Florida than they are in Wisconsin. But the
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: values of the homes in Florida tend to be for
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: a comparable home, much higher. Here's the important takeaway from this, though.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: If they can do it, or at least come close
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: to it, reduce the property taxes when they don't have
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: an income tax. This means it's possible to run a
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: government without all these taxes. It is simply a myth
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that high tax states like Wisconsin have a higher level
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: of service than low tax states. Some low tax states
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: have crappy services, but some high tax states have crappy services.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Every service in California is terrible, and there are brutally
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: tax state. I'm down there in Florida. I don't The
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: services to me seem to be just as good as
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: they are here, if not better. The roads are way better,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: partly because they don't do the dumb things that we
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: do on the roads, like put the bumpo curves that
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: little mayor Chevy puts in at all of that, But
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I admit they don't have winter, the winter conditions which
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: create potholes, and all the roads are fined. The schools
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: seem fine, everything else seems fine. When you don't have
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the tax revenue coming in, because in the case of
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the income tax of Florida, it doesn't exist. You have
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: to make do with what you have. Here in Wisconsin,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: we not only keep taxing ourselves to death, we vote
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: for higher taxes for idiotic things. Like building new city halls.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Want in a new city hall to us, why well
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: it's falling apart, give me a break. Or we need
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: new school buildings. Why do you need new school buildings?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Enrollments are going down. The reality is we could have
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: much less revenue going into government, and if we eliminated
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the stuff that is waste, we'd be just fine. Now
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: to Jill Biden's did you see what she said? She's
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: only able to get away with this because I'm just
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: telling you people have no memory. I sometimes think I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: don't have much of a memory. Then I understand, and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: then I realize I remember damn near everything. Jill Biden
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: gave an interview this week in which she said she
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: was horrified by Joe's performance in the June twenty seventh,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty four presidential obay with Donald Trump. She said
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: she watched Joe on stage with Trump and was horrified.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: She feared that he was having a stroke on stage. Quote.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I wasn't just horrified. I was frightened because I had
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: never ever seen Joe like that before or since. Never
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: she is lying through her teeth, She's never seen Joe
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: like that before or since. I go back to the
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: reaction to that debate, And we did a lot of
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: segments back on the old radio show after the debate
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four about the reaction from the left
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: to this, in which the lefties were freaking out over
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Biden's performance, and just about all of us on the
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: right were shocked that they were freaking out. I was
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: not the least bit surprised that Joe Biden fell apart
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: during the debate. Now, I did say they usually had
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: the ability when he came out in public, if he
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: disappeared for five days before that, they'd pump him through
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: enough drugs that he seemed to be alert and lucid
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: for a while. In this debate, however, he fell apart
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the part of which he lost total control of his
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: answer and talked about whipping medicare. That was early on
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: in the debate. But Biden had been acting goofy and
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: wandering around stages and come and mumbling and making statements
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: in which the words didn't go together for years prior
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: to this. So why were the lefties so shocked that
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: this is always behaving? And all I could all I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: could come up with the time, and I stick with
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: this is the lefties didn't believe their own eyes. They'd
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: watched see it at an, MSNBC and the mainstream media,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and they all said, Joe's fine, Joe's fine, Joe's fine,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Joe is fine. So rather than believing what they were
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: seeing with their own eyes, they assumed that Joe was fine.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Most of us on the right, who weren't blinded by
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: all of that crap, knew that Biden wasn't fine. So
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: when we saw Biden behave the way that he did,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: we weren't surprised. So now Joe Biden, I was horrified.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Joe's never been like that before. Since here's the point
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: that I make of what people having no memories, I
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: wonder now. I always know that some of you, there
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: are some people who listen to me who know everything.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: We used to prove that during my current events quiz,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: but most of you don't. Does anybody remember what happened
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: the night of the debate after it was over? First
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of all, the pundits afterwards all declared a disaster for Biden, etc.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: But what was Biden doing after the debate? Does anybody remember?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I know y'all don't remember, but I'm gonna tell you
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: because it's integral to this story. After the debate, After
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: this debate in which Jill said she was horrified and
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: frightened thinking Joe was having a stroke, did she take
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Joe home? Did she take Joe to the doctor, did
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: she take him to the emergency room? Did she even
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: take him to a personal physician? No, she went out
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: to a meet and greet with a bunch of supporters.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Remember this, Biden was on stage with Jill. Joe was
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: dragging her on the stage the way that she always
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: did and serving as a cheerleader. Wasn't Joe great? Joe
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: was outstanding, and Biden was standing there with his mouth
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: hanging open. He looked just as out of it as
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: he did during the debate. But Jill Biden was personally
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: dragging him out there, bragging up on a great job
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: that he did. If she was truly concerned and this
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: was an unprecedented behavior on his part, why would she
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: have hauled him back out there and jumped to round
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: and continue to shove him out Furthermore, when the presser
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: started coming on Biden to drop out of the race
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and get you know, turn the thing over to commelerbody
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: else who fought this the hardest Joe Biden. Jill Biden's
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: making all of this up, and she's making it up
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: in an attempt to repair her reputation. Jill Biden didn't
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: want Joe to leave because Jill Biden didn't want to
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: not be the first lady who was she? Before this,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: nobody knew who Jill Biden was. You could tell that
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: she's a pompous ass running around with that doctor title
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: and trying to let people think that she's an MD.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: She has a PhD or whatever it is. It's a doctorate,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: but she insists doctor, doctor, doctor. She loved living in
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the White House, she loved going out and making all
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: of these appearances, and she didn't want Joe's senility to
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: take that away from her. So now she offers this
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: spin that she was also surprised by this and she
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: was horrified by what happened on the stage and had
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: never seen it before. Jill Biden is full of crap,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: and she doesn't have the excuse that Joe has Jill.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I see no signs of sinility on Jill's part at all.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: She's as mocky, a velliant, and mean spirited as ever.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: You know, she ended up hating Kamala because she thought
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: that Kamala is trying to ease joe out the door,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: and so on. And I think that Jill Biden's reputation
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: has taking a great big hit over this because so
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: many people have wondered, why didn't she tell Joey needed
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: to leave? Why would she humiliate her husband and put
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: him out there and have him do something that he
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: clearly wasn't able to do. So now her spin for
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: historical purposes is going to be, well, he wasn't really
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: like that, and I had never seen him like this
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: prior to that night at all. You're listening to the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: criticize the news media for not doing much of themselves.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Occasionally you'll see a store that will attempt to do
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: what I'm doing here, but it's very rare. The media
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: almost never, and I didn't say never, I'm just saying
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: almost never. When somebody is arrested or charged, they're convicted
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: of something or another, almost never do you see the
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: news media go in and tell you about the backstory
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: of all the other crap that the person was convicted
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: of earlier. Almost never. But that's the story. To me,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: if somebody does something rotten and they get arrested and
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: they get some punishment for it, you can't look at
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: that in a vacuum. To me, the larger point is
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: what did we do the last time he did it?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: In the time before that, and the time before that
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and the time before that. I believe the biggest single
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: factor in the crime problem in the United States is
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: that we don't do much of anything to criminals when
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: they commit crime, meaning they're free to be able to
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: commit another crime, and another crime, and another crime, and
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: adition to that, because they know that they're not going
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: to get much punishment for it. There's no incentive not
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: to do it. Their behavior is not punished, it is rewarded.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: They're told that, Okay, if we catch you, you'll get
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: your wrist slapped. We'll do a little bit of this,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: So why not do it again? Further, since they're not
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: locked up, they're out on the street and available to
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: do it again. So I'm going to bring you now
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to the end of the story and then go back
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: to the beginning. There was just a sentencing in Waukeshaw
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: County of a Milwaukee man involved with an incident that
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: occurred last year at the Raising Canes. I haven't been
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: to Raising Keynes. If you've been to Raising Keynes, Jason,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: it's overpriced. People tell me it's sensational, it's good, but
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it's expensive. I'm ben to one. It's like it's it's
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: it like sugary chicken or what is it? What is
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: the thing that Jason thinks that it's overrated? Anyway, It's
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: like the you know when Jimmy Johns came around twenty
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: years ago, butN ha's racing at Jimmy John's and then
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Chick fil A became what everybody's Raising Raising Canes is
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: now they're expanding all over the United States and everybody
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: raises about it, raves about it. So there's the Raising
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Canes just on the Brookfield side of the Brookfield Milwaukee line.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty four. We did a segment on
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: this in the last podcast. One hundred and twenty fourth
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: is the dividing line. There's a big retail center on
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Capitol Drive on the west side of one hundred and
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: twenty fourth Street, and the Raising Canes is part of
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that thing. So it's about two blocks into Brookfield across
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: the Street would be either Milwaukee or Wabatosa. There was
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: an incident there at the Raising Canes that was rather frightening.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Officers found a stolen vehicle and they attempted to apprehend
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the driver. I'm going to quote from the report on
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: this in Tuesday's Walkershaw Freeman. The men were charged after
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: a January eighth, twenty twenty five incident at Raising Canes
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: one two six sixth So. West Capitol Drive after they
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: were seen on a flock camera driving a vehicle in
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: a drive through that was reported stolen from Water Street
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. So the car comes up stolen from Milwaukee's
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Water Street and the police in Brookfield spot them at
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: this Raising Canes in Brookfield. As police moved in, Evans,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: that's one of the guys involved, the vehicle driver. His
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: name is Demani Evans. As police moved in, Evans repeatedly
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: reversed the car into another vehicle containing two people. All Right,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: you see a guy at a drive through. Police see
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: when they start moving in, he now puts the vehicle
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: in reverse and rashes into another car twice in and
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: of itself. Already, you have a scary situation. Somebody's trying
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: to elude the cops, and he's ramming the vehicle that
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: apparently is behind him in the drives. He then rammed
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: into a squad car. My visual on this, and this
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: may be one of those cases that the companies that
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: put up the body cam of the dash cam things
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: on YouTube, they have this, but I don't think I've
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: seen it. He then rammed the squad car. So my
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: visual is is that the squad car probably blocked him
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: from the front, and he's already blocked in and the
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: drive to him from behind, so he's trying to ram
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: the vehicles in front of and behind him to get away.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: This is all according to criminal think of pinning continuing.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Brown then ran but was found nearby and gave police
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: a false name. Brown is the guy who is in
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: the passenger seat. So the driver's backing into ramming the
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: squad car in front of him and ramming a passenger
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: car that's behind him, and it's passed. She gets out
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: of the car and takes off Evans that's a driver
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: resisted police, threatened to beat up officers on the scene,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: and was stunned with a taser. There were two females
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: in the car. A nineteen year old and a sixteen
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: year old, and they faced reduced charges. The story goes
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: on to say that as well as the stolen auto,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: police found an AK forty seven style firearm, stolen property,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and numerous drugs, including sixty two grams of pot, ten
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: grams of heroin, and nineteen grams of cocaine. So, all right,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the vehicle's stolen, so they have reason. Obviously I tried
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: to get away, But beyond that, they have an AK
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: style weapon. And the term here is AK style. There
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: are numerous weapons like this Air fifteen AK forty seven
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: that are similar in nature. Had a lot of drugs.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: But the cod they're caught. They were sentenced this month
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: in Wakershaw County Circuit Court. The main character involved here
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: at the driver who was in charge, in charge of
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: the vehicle and was doing the ramming of the vehicles
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: and so on. That's the money evids. He had very
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: good luck, though he continues to have good luck. Luck
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: is it probably the right term. There's something called judicial
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: roulette that I refer to. What happens to you often
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: has more to do with than what you did. With
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: which judge you have. Milwaukee County, we have a few
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: very good judges, mostly bad judges, and some terrible judges.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Wakashaw County has several very good judges, a few okay judges,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: and a couple of crapheads. This is Walk of Shaw County.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Evans was fortunate enough to have his case handled by
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: one of the crapheads, William Dobada. Now, the good news
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: on Domina is he's not running for reelection and his
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: sorry ass is going to be off the Walk of
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Shaw County bench. But he's still up there. Now I'm
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: going to give you the sentence that he got after.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: We now go back to the beginning of the story,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: and I've been able to track the beginning of the
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: story through my own reporting. Fortunately, one of the good
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: things we have in Wisconsin, our court records are online.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Most states don't have this. Wisconsin court records are online,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: so I was able to go back and trace the
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: arrest and criminal charging record of this guy, Damian Evans,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: who is twenty six years old. I want to take
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: that back. He is twenty two years old. Twenty two
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: years old. He was born August ninth of three. My
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: quick math is that makes him twenty two hill turn
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: twenty three in August. This is the fourth time he's
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: been charged with felony for fleeing from police in the
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: last six years. This is the fourth time he's done it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Let's now go through these cases. In March of twenty twenty,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Damian Evans which charged the Milwaukee County Circuit Court with
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: vehicle operator fleeing and eluding an officer. So this is
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: now six years ago. Twenty twenty was COVID year. There
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: was a lot of reckless driving going on in Milwaukee
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: at that time. That was also the year of the
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: George Floyd protests and so on. He was fleeing from
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: the police, they caught him. He cut a plea bargain,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: pleaded guilty, and was sentenced by Judge Glenn ya'ma hero
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: to probation. Now on his age, he was seventeen at
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: the time that he was sentenced, we don't know what
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: kind of a jivetial record he has because jubile records
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: in wisconsiner sealed. They're not open to the public. So, Yama,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: are a seventeen year old kid running for the cops. Okay,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a probation. And some of you may say, okay,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: he ran from the leas's first offense. He's only seventeen.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Give him probation. Well that's what he got, probation. Now,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: let me interject, I have been critical of this forever.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: What lesson did this guy learn? He learned that if
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: you get you run from the cops at a high
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: rate of speed and get caught, they don't do anything
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: to you. And that's what probation is. Probation is they
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: don't do anything to you. This was not a probation
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: in which he had to serve a period of time
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: in the house correction either. It was straight probation. Follow
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: the dates. That charging date was March of twenty twenty.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: His sentencing occurred in June of twenty one. Remember how
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: slow the courts moved during COVID. They shut out a
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: lot of courts. So in June of twenty one he
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: was sentenced to probation for that incident. Fast forward now
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: to December of twenty two. What do you think Demani
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Evans is charged with vehicle operator freeing and eluting an
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: officer the same thing. Now, I don't know the specifics
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: of what kind of fleeing it was and how fast
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: the speeds were or what roads it was on and
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: so on, But he's facing the exact same felony. And
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: when it says vehicle operator, that means it's not fleeing
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: on foot. He was fleeing from the police. So this
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: is now his second offense. And he did this, was
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: charged with this about a year and a half after
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: he got the probation for the other offense. This case
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: dragged out for three years now. I've made this point repeatedly.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: When you're somebody who does something in which you fear
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: that you're going to go to prison, you have every
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: incentive to drag it out and drag it out, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: drag it out, and drag it out, and drag it
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: out and drag it out. And when it is being
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: dragged out, you may or may not be free during
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: that period of time. This case was in Waukeshaw County,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: and he landed in the courtroom of guess who, William Dominum,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: the same guy whose courtroom he ended up in last
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: week for the charge for the thing that happened at
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Raising Canes last year. So the December of twenty two
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: case in Wakashaw County dragged out for three years. He
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: finally was convicted late last year from this three year
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: old charge. And in this case, William Domina gave him
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: fifteen months of confinement. And here's the key to run
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: concurrent to any other sentence, So if he has any
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: other time that's out there, this is not added on
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: to this. It's concurrent. He was in jail in the
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: interim for two hundred and seventy five days, so they
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: credit him for time served that's about nine months. So
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: essentially he was sentenced to six months. This is for
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: the incident that occurred in twenty twenty two in the
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: intervening time in April of twenty three. Now remember follow
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: me on this, I'll help you out. Twenty twenty was
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: the first defense Glenyama Hero. Milwaukee County gave him probation.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Then he was arrested and charged again in twenty twenty two.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: The case in Waukeshaw County case was dragged out for
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: three years. On that case, he got fifteen months, including
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: nine months time serve credit in between this period of
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: time and April of twenty three. So what's sometime between
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: the time that he was arrested and charged in Waukershaw
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: County and sentenced in Waukershaw County. He was arrested and
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: charged in Milwaukee County. This is in this interim period,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: and it's the point that they make up why these
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: guys like to drag these cases out? What do you think?
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: He was charged with vehicle operator fleeing get a ludicant
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: officer and a second charge of second degree recklessly endangering safety.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: So this was apparently a really dangerous chase. In this case,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: he appeared before Milwaukee County Judge Jack Davla. Not surprisingly,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: if you guess it in Milwaukee County judge is bad,
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna be right all the time. Because there's
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: a few that are really good. Davla ain't them. They
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: dismissed several charges. He pleaded guilty to several of them
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: and read in others. I'll read from the sentencing from
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Judge Jack Davolo. The court sentenced an defend into a
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: maximum term in the Wisconsin State Prison of five years
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: concurrent credit for two hundred and seventy eight days time
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: initially served. The initial term of confinement is two years.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Court stays the sentence, meaning none of it happens. So
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: when he says five years and the immerginal confinement is
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: two years. It's all bs staying the sentence means you
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: don't serve it, and they hold it out there in case, well,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: if you do something else wrong, I could put you
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: back on this, which of course they never do. Instead,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: what he did get was six months of Huber privileges
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee County. That usually means they either put you
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: with a house of correction or at a work facility
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: and you get to leave in the daytime. He got
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: to sleep there at night. That's all he got. That
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: occurred in January of twenty four. So while this case
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: occurred after case number two in Wakashaw County, it was
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: resolved before the Wakashaw County case. So he gets six
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: months with work release on this offense, which was the
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: third one but the second one to be adjudicated. All
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: of this occurred before the January of last year incident
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: of raising kid, raising raising canes right, or of raising
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: kaid Cain with an S or not plural an S
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: raising Kaynes. So he's got three of these with risk
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: slap three times. The first one nothing done at all,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the second one a little bit of time, the third
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: one even less time. The third one, of course, occurred
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the second one, So all of
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: that is the background, and now here we go, You've
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: got this terrifying situation at raising Canes. People are just
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: trying to get their fast food. Here's the guy with
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: a stolen carrie rams into another car, rams into a
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: police officer. By the way. The police officer was said
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: to have been injured, but it was minor. He was
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: treated at the scene, so no one was badly hurt,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: but as a terrifying situation. And then remember also they
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: find the AK style rifle in the car, along with
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: all the drugs. His case goes before William Dominum, who
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I described earlier as a craphead. I didn't say crack head.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I say crap is in crap, you know, playing craphead.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: So we'll say that that's too harsh. I'm beyond caring
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: what some lenient judges think about me. I don't know
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: that I've ever cared what lenient judges have thought about me.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Ralphie Ramirez, the other craphead judge in Wakashaw County, can't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: stand me because I keep pointing out to the residence
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: of Waukershaw County. What a rotten judge he is. We
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: have this impression that the only county that's lenient is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee County, and Milwaukee County usually is lenient, but Wakershaw
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: County is either lenient or not, almost entirely depending on
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: the judge. I'm going to rattle through all the charges
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: that he faced in the Raising Canes incident. Position of methanpetamine,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: possession with intent to deliver THHC repeater, second degree recussy
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: and endangering safety, use of a dangerous weapon, second degree
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: bridge recussy, endangering safety with a repeater enhancer, Use of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: a dangerous weapon second degree bridge reluctously and dangering safety
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: repeater enhancement again another county of use of a dangerous weapon,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: operator fleeing in a living officer, bodily harmed, property damage,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: and again the dangerous weapon that they're referring to here
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: is the fact that he was using the vehicle in
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: an attempt to injure, repeating, resisting or obstructing an officer,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: battery or threat to a judge, prosecutor, law enforcement officer. Driver,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: operate a vehicle without consent. Remember this is a stolen car.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I hope you didn't not forget about that one. And
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: then bail jumping because of course he was out on
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: bail on some of the previous cases that he had
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: pending on him when all of this happened. So again
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: we caught him and he's charged with all of this.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: The case is resolved, he agrees to plead to some
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: of the charges others had dismissed. It read ind. When
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: all is said and done, the judge stays sentences on
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: all of the counts except one. He's only punished on
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: the one count, and that's count number nine. Count number
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: nine was driving or or operating a vehicle without consent.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: That was the ninth count. It's the only one that
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: he sentenced on. The sentence here is for three years
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: of imprisonment, two years of which our extended supervision, one
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: year of which is initial confinement. That's it. That's it.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I hope you all understand the problem. One of the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: things that I try to do, and I admit that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: this is hard, is I always try to name the judges.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: It's easier in most of our counties, but not Milwaukee.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee has more than fifty branches of the Circuit Court,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: and it's just unless you're really on top of it,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: like me, hard to keep track of all of them.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Waka showka, I don't know any she said ten. Maybe
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: it shouldn't be that hard. The maximum punishment for all
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: of these years in the many many years in prison.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Remember he had multiple counts in here, even with the
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: counts that were dismissed as part of the plea barg
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: and he was still sentenced on several counts and the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: judge didn't do anything on most of them. Walk of
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Shaw County. Some people in it at least learned nothing
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: from Darryl Brooks. This behavior is many Brooks. Brooks had
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: multiple convictions, never had much of anything done to him,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: just like this guy Evans. In this instance, Evans rammed
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: into a car, then rammed into a squad car. I say,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: many Brooks. It's certainly not at the level of Brooks,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: in which he was driving into pedestrians walking through a
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: parade road. It was not that he didn't kill anybody,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: but he certainly didn't care if he injured anyone as
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: he tried to get away, banging into cars back and
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: forth and so on, and showing no desire. This is
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: what he does. He steals cars and then he flees
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: to the place and apparently he's got drugs in there,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: and he's got a big ak weapon and so on.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Some would say, well, this is a good thing that
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: he was caught on the west side of one hundred
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: and twenty fourth Street because he won't get a lefty
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee County judge like Jack Davia let us slap his wrist.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I need to knock you out of that. There are
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: some judges in Walkershaw County that I think would have
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: handed out a proper sentence, but Domin is not one
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: of them. There is never any criticism of any of
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: these judges ever from anyone other than me occasionally one
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: of the news media, and nobody's done it in this instance,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: at least I haven't seen any story. We'll run a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: story which they go through the track record of all
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: of the craft that guys like this do and then
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: point out the final thing here on which you can
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: put all of the pieces together. But it's hardly ever
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: done go to do because, as I say, all of
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: our online records in Wisconsin, all of our court records
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: are online, and we're able to find them. We keep
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: getting all at Milwaukee, the suburbs all saying, I'm so
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: tired of this reckless driving. I'm so tired of the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: stolen cars, so tired of the people who flee from
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: the polace, so tired of this, so tired of that. No,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: you're not. If you were, we wouldn't be tolerating rotten
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: judges like Domita. And again, I'm sure Domina doesn't like
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: the fact that, after his years on the bench he
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: bows out with me using a popular podcast that he
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: going to describe him as rotten. What term am I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: supposed to apply for this? It is unclear to me
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: from the court record whether or not there was a
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: sentencing recommendation that was joined. There usually isn't after a
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: plea bargain. Usually defense makes a recommendation, the prosecutor makes
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: a recommendation, but the judge can always do what the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: judge wants to do. It's up to the judge to
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: pronounce it the final sentence. So with the other cases
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: that he has in the time that he's serving, I'm
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: not sure it's clearly. It's not clear with his other
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: probations that he has out there when the guy's going
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: to be free. What I do know is that Domina
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: added only a year to him. This guy, to Monni Evans,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: is going to be free again. Who in the world
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't think he's gonna steal another car? And if he's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: caught run from the cops, why wouldn't he Now you
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: can say, well, he's getting sometime. He is getting sometime.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: We stopped doing just the total probation that Yama Hero
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: started him off on his rotten path on a Yama Hero,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: by the way, is another bad Milwaukee County judge. He's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: in the bottom half. He's not the worst, but there's
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: so many terrible ones there. It's not a credit to
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Yama Hero. There are judges worse than him. It's one
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: of the bad ones. But that's what started all of this.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: He went back and forth. Two of the cases at
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Waukeshak County both went to Domina. In Milwaukee County, Yama
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Hero and Davola not a good judge in the four
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: A double Domina. I love that, A double Domina in
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Waukeshaw County and then a yam a Hero and a
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Dabola in Milwaukee County. We do have judicial elections, and
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: in Milwaukee County, as I say, there are two judges
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: that are leaving the bench this summer. Domina is one
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: of them. Tony Evers will name their replacement, but the
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: replacement will only serve until the next spring election. As
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: I've been instructing you repeatedly, and Waukershaw County voters do
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: the right thing. They don't ever vote for the Evers appointees.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: They vote for the challenger. I don't believe any of
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Evers's appointees has survived election at the ballot. Unfortunately, you'll
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: sometimes be disappointed by the candidates who say that they
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: are conservative when they run. It's too early to make
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: a final decision, but I've had I have a red
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: flag out on Scott Wagner, who ran as a Conservative,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: ran unopposed and has handled a couple of cases patheticallythetically
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: repeat drunk driver driving the wrong side of Moreland Road
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: cracks into a squad car got four months from Wagner. Again,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: just a disgrace. But I'm not going to judge Wagner
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: permanently on one case. It's taken Dominan and Ralphie Ramirez,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: the other craphead judge in Wakashaw County. Years of being soft,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: lenient pathetic, weening asses for me to be able to
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: feel comfortable describing them in the crude, obnoxious terms that
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I just used. But they're called for. And if you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: don't think that they're called for, what are you going
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: to do about it? All right, let's turn our attention
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: out of this. I won't. I was gonna say weird.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: It's not a weird story because it's just happening a lot,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: but there are components of that that are weird. There's
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: a guy who was running a martial arts studio in Brookfield,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: but he lives in river Hills. Now, living in river
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Hills usually means you're rich, but it's not clear to me.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of streets in River Hills in which
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: you're in River Hills only because you're on the right
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: side of the street, Like I think. I think a
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: portion of Brown Deer Road is in River Hills, and
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: if you're living on Brown Deer Road on the north
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: side of the street, you're still just living on Browndier Road.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: But the case was handled in River Hills by River
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Hills police. I believe his martial arts studio was located
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: in Brookfield. He might have been doing some work out
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: of his home, though that part is unclear. But the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: case is a Milwaukee County case and River Hills is
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: listed as River Hills Police for the investigating agency. The
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: guy who's running the martial arts studio, his name is
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: David Kang Ka and G. He has the middle names
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: of Seung Chwi. David Kang sixty six years old. The
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: criminal complaint accuses him of inappropriate sexual conduct with contact
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: with a minor, repeated over a lengthy period of time.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to quote from the FI report. Milwaukee County
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: prosecutors charged the longtime martial arts instructor Tuesday, that would
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: be two days ago. I'm doing this podcast on Thursday.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Was sexually assaulting a child for years during private lessons.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: David S. Kang, sixty six, is charged with repeated sexual
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: assault of a child and second degree sexual assault of
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: a child under age sixteen. According to court filings, River
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Hills Police met with a child and the child's parents
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: earlier this month. The child to hold police Kang sexually
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: assaulted them for years during private Taekwon do lessons and
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: could not go through another summer of abuse. The filings
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: say that while police were interviewing the victim, Tang showed
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: up at the victim's home and shot himself. Kang survived,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: all right, Now, let me pause here. This is I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: can't say that I've ever heard of a case of
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: a child predator showing up when the police are investigated
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: our interviewing the victim, and the predator then shot himself.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Perhaps it'd be a good thing if more of them did.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: They did it, Okay, they caught me, I'll kill themselves.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't have any doubt about whether or not it
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: actually it was a suicide. Like Epstein. To this day,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody knows whether or not he hung
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: himself where he had assistance on this. But in this case,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Kang shoots it. Kang shows up where the cops are
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: interviewing the kid and he shoots himself. However, he lived,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: which tells me he didn't shoot himself in the head.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe he did it. Boy, Oh boy, I
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: think if you shoot yourself on the head, your chances
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: of living aren't very good, are they? Nine millimeter though
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: those are really people don't like it. Whenever I talk
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: about the wimpiness, I'm just saying, whenever you hear one
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: of these cases where somebody shot five times that they live.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you it's always a nine millimeter. Make
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: of that whatever you will. I'm just telling you. Look
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: up any story somebody was shot five times in the living.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just it's a nine millimeter. So maybe he shot
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: himself in the head of a nine millimeterary I lived,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: or maybe he pointed the gun somewhere else other than
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: his head. But if you want to kill yourself, you
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: better I'm just thinking put it in your You can't
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: live if you put it in your mouth and pull
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: the trigger right. Well, Kang Kang lived. The story goes
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: on to say the Kang was featured in a Fox
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: six story when he operated a studio in Fox Point
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine. State records show that Kang
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: incorporated a Taekwon Do a studio in nineteen ninety one. Well,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: there's been different locations for several years. The studio was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: located in a shopping center or Port Road and Brown
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Deer Roads in Fox Point. The story goes on to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: say that Kang has never had a martial arts instructor's license.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know you had to have one. I
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: don't know if you can operate a studio without one,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: but he's never had one. The business is now said
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: to be defunct. When cases like this occur, often other
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: victims will come forward. So if there are any other
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: kids who went to this alleged pedal for martial arts
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: instructions and something bad happened, contact the River Hills Police
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: or whatever the police agency out there is. It's hard
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: for me to imagine that it was just one kid
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: that he was messing with over all of these years.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: But the kid went to the police and apparently he's
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: still a miner, and he said, I just didn't my
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: apparent I guess he was taking the martial EDGs courses
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: in the summer, saying I just didn't want to go
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: through another summer of this guy doing this stuff to
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: be parents contacted the police, they did the investigation. Kang
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: must have known that the cops are talking to the
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: kid and the parents. Kang shows up at the house
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: and shoots himself. Another crime story. This one part of
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: a massive American trend. We all know about the the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: scams that have been uncovered in Minnesota where healthcare, home
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: health care services, and childcare services operated by some Molly's
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: have turned out to be massive frauds in Milwaukee. The
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: one that's been investigated for some time now are prenatal
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: care nonprofits. The thing that makes these so open to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: scamming is you don't have to be a doctor to
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: provide prenatal care. Prenatal care is basically, let's help mom
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: live healthy while she's pregnant. That's what prenatal care is.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Damn me or anybody can run one of these and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: you get reimbursement from the government for doing it. But
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: here's the thing, to quote my favorite line from Fargo,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: but how do you know? How do you know whether
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: or not this person is reporting that they saw on
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: ninety seven expect mother's sie any of them. Unless you
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: actually follow up and contact all of those ninety seven women,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: how do you know that she was providing anything? Or
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: are all of the billings phony. We've had a lot
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: of these kinds of things. The other one is childcare.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: The daycare send is the same kind of thing that's
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: going on in Minnesota. President Trump has named Jade Vance
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: the Vice President to oversee this investigation into government fraud
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: with regard to Medicare and Medicaid. With regard to these programs,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm just saying this is wide open. This has
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: been going on for a long time. I think a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: lot of people have known about it, and the people
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: that do it often will tell others, hey, you could
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: do this. Some of the tip offs are Look at
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: this person. They're living the life of Riley. They got
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: incredibly expensive cars, they're living in a great house, and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: they're only running this thing. And as Nick Shirley exposed
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota, they went to one of the places. There
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: were no kids. There have there been any moms that
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: went to this woman's place, this guy's place. The guy's
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: name is de Merril Howard Mail. The business is called
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: Fortunate Futures. He's pleaded guilty to federal charges he build Medicaid.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Medicaid is healthcare for low income people. Four point three
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: million dollars. He's to be sentenced next month. So the Feds,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: now that we're under Trump, are going after this stuff.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Some of these cases date obviously prior to Trump. They
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: go back all the way to Obama. This kind of
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: scamming has been going on forever and ever and ever.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: This whole area of how much money our government spends,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: some of it is overpaying for stuff that they're actually using.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: That's not fraud, that's just waste. There's a difference between
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: waste and fraud that too often get lumped together. Much
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: I believe in the public schools is waste. Much of
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: transit is waste. For example, the Milwaukee trolley is not fraud.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: We all see that it's there. They're not hiding anything.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: It's simply waste. It's something that loses a fortune and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: doesn't provide any kind of necessary service whatsoever. In this instance,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: I think you have some degree of waste. Why do
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: we need to have these nonprofits providing prenatal care? How
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: many mothers need to have somebody tell them what you're
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: not supposed to do when you're pregnant. Don't smoke crack,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: don't drink, don't take a hammer to your belly. How
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: many things do you need to tell them. On the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: other hand, some people might need some help because they're stupid,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: or they might need nutrition assistance, et cetera. But once
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: we establish these programs, and whenever anybody kind of questions
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: they need for these programs us that you don't want
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: to have a care for preborn children here you are
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: you write to lifers so what a woman actually has
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: the baby, you don't want to give them care sol
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: because of course what I have to give them care.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: The problem with this is is what is that care
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: and who follows up on whether or not it's legitimate
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: as opposed to something that's just scammed. When regular major
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: healthcare companies and I'm not saying that there isn't fraud
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: involved in that, but if you go to say one
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: of the local hospitals and one of the major healthcare
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: chains around here, there's physical offices and there's numerous people
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: involved in billing to submit a phony bill. If you're
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Aurora would be it's not worth the point, you're making
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: too much money on all the actual human beings that
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: are coming in. But Whenevery, Tom Dick and de Merril.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: In this case, the Merrill Howard says, I'm providing prenatal
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: services at some house on the on the northwest side.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: How do you know they're providing anything? How many of
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: them that are operating provided anything at all? And of
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: those who did see one or two of the mothers,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: did they see them more than one or two times?
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: And how do they come up with the dollar amount
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: that they charge the government back in Minnesota, Walls, the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: governor said, well, we uncovered a lot of this. You
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: uncovered squat and when whistleblowers were trying and some of
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: these agencies to draw attention to it, they were threatened
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: with firing. In that case, it was because the overwhelming
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: majority of the frauds theres were Somali and the Democrats
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota were hooking into the political base of the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: Somalis and getting people elected like elan Omar. In this case,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: you're in Milwaukee, that doesn't appear to be any kind
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: of specific ethnic group involved, and it was just out
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: and out fraud with a bunch of bureaucrats. And again
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: eventually they caught it. This person was criminally charged, and
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: usually they're charged either because somebody blows the whistle and
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: somebody in the government is willing to listen, or it
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: just gets so large and there are so many women
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: that they claim that they're seeing that it doesn't add up,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: and somebody says, way, hey, maybe we need to take
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: a look at all of this. Real quickly interesting story
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal, Economic pain is squeezing Tehran.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: The point of the story is that the stalemate in
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: the war negotiations, which is clearly causing problems in the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: United States. With the Strait of Horror moves still in
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: this vague area, oil prices are very high. That means
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: gasoline prices are high, and everybody knows what the downside
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: is to the United States. Is it worse in Iran?
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  Speaker 2: And at what point does Iran say uncle and cut
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  Speaker 2: a deal with Trump for fear that if they don't,
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  Speaker 2: there's going to be another revolt of their citizenry. Let
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  Speaker 2: me read a few paragraphs of this story. At the
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  Speaker 2: turn of the year, Irams re faced its biggest protesting
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  Speaker 2: years as anger spread over spiraling prices and a crumbling economy.
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  Speaker 2: Thousands were killed in a vicious cracked out. Now battered
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  Speaker 2: by war and suffocated by a US naval blockade, the
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  Speaker 2: country is in even worse shape as Washington presses Tehran
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  Speaker 2: to reopen the strait of HARMUS leading, leaving its leaders
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  Speaker 2: weighing weather they can withstand the pain long enough to
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  Speaker 2: extract more concessions. This is an interesting perspective because all
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  Speaker 2: the reporting in the United States has been how long
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  Speaker 2: could Trump hold out before he simply caves? In the
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  Speaker 2: perspective here is how long can Iran hold out continuing. Already,
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  Speaker 2: the blockade has choked off oil export revenue and raised
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  Speaker 2: the risk that Iran will have to shut down wells
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  Speaker 2: as it runs out of places to store crude. Iranian
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  Speaker 2: officials are urging people to conserve fuel, electricity, and water,
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  Speaker 2: a sign that the economic squeeze is spreading into daily life.
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  Speaker 2: Critical industries have been damaged. More than a million Radiants
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  Speaker 2: have been left out of work as the national currency
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  Speaker 2: falls to record lows. Prices of staples such as rice, meat, bread,
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  Speaker 2: and cheese have risen sharply, raising the pressure on the
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  Speaker 2: government to prevent a repeat of the last wave of
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  Speaker 2: a street protests. President Masud Pershkian and other pragmatists realize
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  Speaker 2: the slide will have to be stemmed if they are
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  Speaker 2: to maintain stability, meaning the worsening economic picture is becoming
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  Speaker 2: a key pressure point in the negotiations with Washington. The
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  Speaker 2: main war is in the economic field, the president told
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  Speaker 2: members of the Tehran Chamber of Commerce on Wednesday. If
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  Speaker 2: you fail, the country fails. If the conflict continues, a
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  Speaker 2: rand quote will move into a more negative economic trajectory
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  Speaker 2: that will be very difficult to recover from. Said, and
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  Speaker 2: then they could have got with a really long name
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  Speaker 2: chief executive of the economics focused think tank burse and
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: bizarre foundation. So the incentives are there for I ran
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  Speaker 2: to negotiate. My take on this. Every indication we get
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  Speaker 2: when Trump keeps saying Iran really wants a deal, I
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  Speaker 2: think some in the Iranian government really want a deal.
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  Speaker 2: Guys like this guy, the guy that's in charge of
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  Speaker 2: domestic services to the country. They're worried that there is
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  Speaker 2: massive hardship for the Iranian people and what caused them
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  Speaker 2: to go out and protest in the streets a few
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  Speaker 2: months ago is way way worse now. And even with
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  Speaker 2: the threat of being killed, how long before they can
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  Speaker 2: keep this powder keg under control. Then you've got the
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  Speaker 2: hardliners in the military and some of the religious zelots.
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  Speaker 2: They figure they can wait out Trump because they think
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  Speaker 2: the American people are weak and they can't handle a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks of high gasoline prices right along. That's what
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  Speaker 2: they think. They think that Americable cave, that America doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have the stomach for any kind of pain. The question
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  Speaker 2: is who has more pain right now and who has
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  Speaker 2: more leverage. I think Trump wants this over on the
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  Speaker 2: other hand, Trump hasn't caved to Iran yet because I
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  Speaker 2: think he understands that Iran is really feeling this. Let's
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  Speaker 2: imagine Trump doesn't buckle for another month, and the embargo
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: remains in place for another month, while oil prices remain
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  Speaker 2: high because the strait of hormones does there's not much
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  Speaker 2: getting out of it. That means there's zero money coming
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  Speaker 2: into Iran, and all of these problems internally there are worse.
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  Speaker 2: My sense has always been that the only way for
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  Speaker 2: regime change in Iran is for the people of Iran
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  Speaker 2: to who overthrow their government. And that means not just
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  Speaker 2: the thousands who came out earlier this year, hundreds of
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: thousands just coming out to the street. No matter how
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  Speaker 2: ruthless the regime, it can be toppled. The way it
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  Speaker 2: happens is when the masses come out into the street.
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  Speaker 2: The people with the guns, the police and the military,
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  Speaker 2: they decide to side with the people. Now, the problem
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  Speaker 2: in Iran is that the Muslims who run that country
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  Speaker 2: are zealous and they may well never side with the people.
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  Speaker 2: I use as my example Romania. The Chelchesca regime sixties
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  Speaker 2: seventies and eighties was probably the most ruthless of all
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  Speaker 2: of those countries in Eastern Europe. Eventually he fell. The
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  Speaker 2: crackdown didn't hold. The people went back to the street,
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  Speaker 2: and eventually the military formed a new government, arrested Chichesco
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  Speaker 2: and his wife had a day later. I think they
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  Speaker 2: shot him at a fight at a firing squad. It
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  Speaker 2: was not thinkable that that would occur, but eventually the
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming majority of the people in the country said we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to take this anymore, and stood up in
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  Speaker 2: the face of rifle fire and said we want a
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  Speaker 2: different government. I do not believe that's the only way
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  Speaker 2: I think that Iran's government will fall. We cannot go
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  Speaker 2: in in a ground war and march all the way
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  Speaker 2: to Tehran and kill thousands of American troops and have
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: even more damage. That price of oil will not only
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  Speaker 2: go through the roof. There's no appetite for the American public,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no appetite for me for all sorts of
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  Speaker 2: young Americans to be killed to overthrow the government of Iran.
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  Speaker 2: But what we can do is destabilize this enough that
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: their own people will attempt to take care of the problem,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: whether or not enough of them are willing to die,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: and whether or not the people with guns, the military
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: and the police will ever decide to side with the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: masses and move against their stone age Muslim leaders. Too
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  Speaker 2: close to call. This is the Mark Belling Pod guest.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: This is the Mark Felling Podcast. I want to stress
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: the time we're recording today's podcast. It's right now around
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: twelve to forty five in the afternoon on Thursday. So
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: when you hear this, some of this information may be outdated.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: It's current. As of now. Josh Jacobs of the Packers
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: has not yet been charged in connection with that domestic
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: abuse incident that occurred in Green Bay a few days ago.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: The authorities say they're continuing to investigate. He was arrested
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: on charges. And remember when they say arrested on charges,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: that's sept from charged. Police cannot charge. They arrest you
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: on a charge. The bringing of a criminal charge in
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Wisconsin comes from the district attorney. The district attorney has
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: not charged Jacob's and he's been released from jail in
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: the interim. Sometimes they're not charged because the DA believes
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: there's no case there. Also, what we don't know is
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: whether or not the victim in this case is cooperating.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: What happens a lot on domestic cases. In Wisconsin, we
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: have a must Most states have a must arrest law
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: on a domestic case. If police respond to a situation
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: in which there's a domestic relationship between two people and
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: there is some sign of physical injury, they have to
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: make an arrest, even if the victim doesn't want an arrest.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: But many of those cases never end up going to
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: quarter or having charges because the next day the victim
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: just doesn't show up and doesn't make a complaining statement,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: and there's no case to prosecute because of a non
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: complaining victim, whether the woman is a victim or not.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: And again Josh Jacobs's lawyer has adamantly denied all of it.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Didn't do it if the victim is not cooperating at
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: this point with authorities for whatever reason, And in some
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: cases an arrangement is made, in other cases the two
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: make up, or in some cases maybe the allegation wasn't true.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: At this point, Jacobs has not been charged, and it's
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: certainly possible that he won't be charged, and if he
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: is in charge, then continues to maintain his innocence barring
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: some sort of compelling evidence that he did something wrong.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: It's too early to prejudge anyone Josh Jacobs did anything.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: And again, this is called domestic abuse, which usually implies
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: that there is a relationship between the two. If I
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: just belt somebody that I just met, it's not normally
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: domestic abuse. It's simply an assault in a battery or
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: an attack or whatever it is. The term domestic comes
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: in when it applies a relationship. Is this a spouse
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: or a longtime girlfriend or someone just met that don't
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: know the answer to that, but I do think from
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: the perspective of Jacobs, the fact that we're now a
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: couple of days into this and he hasn't been charged,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: it might be the case that he is going to
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: be charged at this point. We don't know. That's it
• 1:30:04
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• 1:30:06
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