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Ep. 113 : World Series Preview & Topps Holiday Overview · Cards & Categories

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome everybody to episode one thirteen of Cards
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  Speaker 1: and Categories. I'm Mike cool Eard from ras Ball, joined
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  Speaker 1: once again by my very good friend Jeremy Burr Awesome
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  Speaker 1: from Rasball. How are you doing tonight, buddy?
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  Speaker 2: I am doing just dandy. We are so close to
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  Speaker 2: the world series and I am excited about it. It
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  Speaker 2: has been a thrilling playoffs series so far. So I don't
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  Speaker 2: about you, but these playoffs have have reinvigorated me. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: they kind of hit with a dud, but this one
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  Speaker 2: has been everything but that. So I am I'm ready
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  Speaker 2: to talk tonight. It's been two weeks, so let's let's
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  Speaker 2: get into it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you've missed a lot of action between
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  Speaker 1: the last time that we potted together, between the wrap
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  Speaker 1: up of the DS series, the I didn't even bring
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  Speaker 1: it up with Keelan last week, the six' two double
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  Speaker 1: play that happened with The, brewers and now we've concluded
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  Speaker 1: The championship series as, well which both had definitely their
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  Speaker 1: highlights and their own. Right SO i will set everybody
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  Speaker 1: in time. Here we were speaking On, Wednesday october twenty,
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  Speaker 1: second which also happens to be release date for twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty FIVE Tops, holiday which is going to be our
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  Speaker 1: second half of the show, here it'll be like a main.
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  Speaker 1: Segment we're going to do our first live pod pack
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  Speaker 1: opening BECAUSE i got some of This Tops. Holiday we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about it over the past couple of weeks as
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  Speaker 1: we've been leading up to the.
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  Speaker 2: Release it is.
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  Speaker 1: One of our favorites every, year and SO i picked
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  Speaker 1: up four. Megaboxes they arrived this afternoon From FedEx And
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  Speaker 1: tops Dot, Com so shout out to that delivery, driver
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  Speaker 1: because on top of, it we're still certain things Out
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  Speaker 1: there was no checklist actually out there for this product
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  Speaker 1: release when it came out earlier this, morning and then
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  Speaker 1: we're still piecing everything together because this is also if
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  Speaker 1: you've been with us for a couple of, years you
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  Speaker 1: Know holiday has all sorts of short prints and little
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  Speaker 1: gimmicks and little kind of tweaks to each card where
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  Speaker 1: it's really hard to pick up on what's in. There
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  Speaker 1: so we're going to talk about that in the second
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  Speaker 1: half of the. Show but you alluded to. It these
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  Speaker 1: playoffs have been. Great let's get back. There because we
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up both the championship series over the weekend Slash
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  Speaker 1: monday with the with The mariners and The Blue jays,
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  Speaker 1: there and then the nice thing, is, WELL i don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it's been a nice thing in terms of
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  Speaker 1: the break between that series wrapping and then us having
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  Speaker 1: to wait for The World series On, friday but it
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  Speaker 1: has given us a break point so that we could
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  Speaker 1: actually do a full. Preview SO i think we're going
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  Speaker 1: to dive in and do that now that we have
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  Speaker 1: the team. Set let's start with The, alcs because it
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  Speaker 1: did go seven, games we had quite the back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: battle including a Fantastic game. Seven what really stood out
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  Speaker 1: to you and The? Alcs between what gave The Blue
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  Speaker 1: jays maybe the edge of The mariners and then we
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  Speaker 1: can go into some specific highlights.
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  Speaker 2: There, YEAH i, MEAN i think there's two things that
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  Speaker 2: stood Out BECAUSE i was Full mariners the whole. WAY
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  Speaker 2: i thought they were the better. TEAM i thought they
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  Speaker 2: had the better. STAFF i thought they should. Win AND
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  Speaker 2: i think came down to two. Things one the Blue
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  Speaker 2: jays clutch. Hitting they there was not a spot that they.
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  Speaker 2: Missed it just didn't feel like, that you, know Between
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  Speaker 2: springer And. Vlad and THEN i mean they're a team
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  Speaker 2: relative of role players you, know it just seems they
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  Speaker 2: always made the big, hit and then the other side
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  Speaker 2: of it would Be i'm gonna say the pitching of The,
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  Speaker 2: mariners but it's gonna be the managing.
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  Speaker 1: Of the pitching and The.
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  Speaker 2: Mariners it definitely left a lot to be. Desired AND
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  Speaker 2: i get it's the, playoffs like everybody has to manage
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  Speaker 2: in a different, way but SOMETIMES i feel like you
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  Speaker 2: manage around, yourself AND i feel like The, mariners like
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  Speaker 2: was it The Blue jays clutch hitting or The mariners
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  Speaker 2: had the wrong guys in the wrong spots on the,
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  Speaker 2: Mound AND i think maybe both both. Applied so, again
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  Speaker 2: both teams were, great took to the. WIRE i feel
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  Speaker 2: bad For Kyle rally because like he he was having
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  Speaker 2: a dream season and there's like it felt like it
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  Speaker 2: should be a you, know a lifetime movie or type
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  Speaker 2: of thing. Here BUT I i think those were really
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  Speaker 2: the things for me that this tongue stuck out that
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  Speaker 2: And Bladdie laddie just he's having a he's having a
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  Speaker 2: playoff series for.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah AND i MEAN i know that sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: find like really trippy places people are. FROM i had
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  Speaker 1: no Idea Dan wilson's From Arlington heights just down the
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  Speaker 1: road from me And chicago here went To Barrington Community
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  Speaker 1: High school up in The North, burbs so that's kind of.
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  Speaker 1: FUNNY i had no, idea BUT i think both of
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  Speaker 1: those things really showed their their head In game seven
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  Speaker 1: there between The Blue jays just not having any quit in.
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  Speaker 1: Them That George springer three run homer in the in
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  Speaker 1: the seventh, inning, uh really set the stage for that
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  Speaker 1: Lou jay's come, back and they needed it because Both
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  Speaker 1: cal And julio hit dingers earlier in the. Game but
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  Speaker 1: In game seven, especially you, know you saw the cream
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  Speaker 1: rime rise to the top With George. Springer but at
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  Speaker 1: the same time That Dan wilson managerial, game and it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of showed its way in different spots throughout the.
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  Speaker 1: Playoffs not exactly stellar between writing Maybe brian wu who
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  Speaker 1: was still coming back from that peck injury a little
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  Speaker 1: too long in my mind in terms of he clearly
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  Speaker 1: did not have his best. Stuff and then they mentioned
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  Speaker 1: this on the broadcast, directly Like Joe davis was second
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  Speaker 1: Guessing Dan wilson when he went To bizardo there to
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  Speaker 1: bring in and then he's the one that gave up
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  Speaker 1: the homer To George. Springer there's also been some analysis
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  Speaker 1: where like that ninety six mile hour fastball That bizardo
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  Speaker 1: threw To springer for the home run was actually like
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  Speaker 1: the exact same pitch he had thrown the night. Before
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  Speaker 1: BUT i think that even speaks to like what my
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  Speaker 1: main criticism is Of Dan wilson is he did not
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  Speaker 1: care about just like showing That Blue jays lineup all
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  Speaker 1: of the same pictures over and over and, over AND i,
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  Speaker 1: mean bizarrea had a great, season but, like there's a
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  Speaker 1: reason a player with an arm Like bizardo ends up
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  Speaker 1: in the bullpen and isn't a starter and also has
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  Speaker 1: a pop up season the way that he did this
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  Speaker 1: year and really kind of. Shined and that's because it's
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  Speaker 1: not the type of player with that, fastball, slider combo
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  Speaker 1: and sinker, two where like you let him see batters
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  Speaker 1: too many times over and over BECAUSE i think you
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  Speaker 1: can pick it. Up it's it's not especially special or
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  Speaker 1: nasty when you keep seeing it back to back nights
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  Speaker 1: the Way springer. Did and it really came back to
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  Speaker 1: Bite Dan wilson in The mariners because it really obviously
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  Speaker 1: unraveled in the Entire game seven for?
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  Speaker 2: Them, yeah and you're also remember there's a bullpen With
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  Speaker 2: muno's brash and the spire out there that, like were
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  Speaker 2: basically untouchable all, season and you're in game, seven how
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  Speaker 2: are you not going like at that point those three
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  Speaker 2: should have been the last three. THINGS i don't care who's.
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  Speaker 2: Up they were your workhorses all. Season they were basically
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  Speaker 2: untouchable all. Season why are, you, like why are you
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  Speaker 2: not picking whichever one is the fireman for the right
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  Speaker 2: situation and going so it? Is you, KNOW, i LIKE i,
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  Speaker 2: SAID i thought The marriagers had a really really complete.
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  Speaker 2: Team you, know they just they deserve at least a
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  Speaker 2: visit to The World series every once in a while
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  Speaker 2: or the first time. Ever you, know it'd be. Nice but,
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  Speaker 2: hey here we. Are we got The, dodgers we got
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  Speaker 2: the The Blue. Jays so we we'll talk about who
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  Speaker 2: we think we want to win or who we think will.
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  Speaker 2: Win but, uh it was that was an exciting. Series
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  Speaker 2: it was great to see it go, seven and it
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  Speaker 2: did feel like it could go anyway the whole. Time
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  Speaker 2: the only Thing i'm really disappointed in is that we
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  Speaker 2: can't talk about How Jorge plonka was just you, know
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  Speaker 2: making a name for himself the playoffs because you know
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  Speaker 2: he did time and time, again and, uh it's we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to talk about it because they're. Out they're.
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  Speaker 1: Out, YEAH i, MEAN i believe it's A Horgey planco
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  Speaker 1: a free agent this.
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  Speaker 2: Offseason.
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  Speaker 1: Two it looks like he think he, is, SO i,
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  Speaker 1: mean it'll be fascinating to see where that kind of
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  Speaker 1: settles in terms of Which Horne planco is the real
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  Speaker 1: one between you, know he's been injured off and, on
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  Speaker 1: and last year in twenty twenty four only put up
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  Speaker 1: in ninety THREE wrc. Plus this he was really just
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  Speaker 1: looked totally. Done and this, year obviously it was a solid.
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  Speaker 1: Season when it was all sudden. Done you, know it
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  Speaker 1: was a very hot and cold stretch where if you
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  Speaker 1: remember early, Season Hogey polanco was like looking like a
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  Speaker 1: top five second basement for fantasy and fell off a
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  Speaker 1: cliff and then came right back when it was all sudden.
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  Speaker 1: Done two sixty five through twenty, six four ninety five
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  Speaker 1: slash line For, polanco that's a one thirty TWO wrc
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  Speaker 1: plus best of his career outside of a eight plate
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  Speaker 1: appearance sample in twenty fourteen when he had a cup of.
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  Speaker 1: Coffee so it'll be tough for The mariners to replace
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  Speaker 1: that production because there's not a lot of free agents out,
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  Speaker 1: there and you're gonna also have to Replace Josh naylor.
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  Speaker 1: Two so it'll be we'll see how that all kind
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  Speaker 1: of sorts, out and it should be a big offseason
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  Speaker 1: for The. Mariners let's flip over to THE nlcs, though
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  Speaker 1: because it was a four to zero. Sleep but the
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: reason we really have to mention is The otanian game,
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  Speaker 1: that like we've had this discussion already once in our
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  Speaker 1: Podcast lifetime last year when he put the huge performance
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  Speaker 1: up In miami to get to the fifty to fifty
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  Speaker 1: mark in the same game and put up just like
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  Speaker 1: the most absurd fantasy game you could ever. Imagine, well
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  Speaker 1: he came back and did it into THE nlcs and
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  Speaker 1: the clinching game to send The dodgers for The World,
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  Speaker 1: series cracking three home, runs like three giant home, runs
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  Speaker 1: two one of them out of the, stadium the second,
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  Speaker 1: one the third one when he hit, it, LIKE i
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  Speaker 1: was just giggling WHEN i saw it because it was
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  Speaker 1: just like so, absurd and you saw the reaction from
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  Speaker 1: all the other players in the dugout when he did,
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  Speaker 1: that you, know just a showing of admiration for Show Hayo.
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  Speaker 1: Tani and when he does oh, yeah he also pitched
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  Speaker 1: that game six innings ten k's absolutely shut down the.
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  Speaker 1: Brewers what do you think is this in the pantheon
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest games ever because of the actual kind
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: of circumstance going to The World, series or is it
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  Speaker 1: behind some of these other performances like what we saw
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  Speaker 1: From otani last, year or we discussed this a little
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  Speaker 1: bit last. Year mine might actually be a rick wise
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  Speaker 1: no hitter that he threw with two, homers and so
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  Speaker 1: that one's a little deeper. Cut but where do you
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  Speaker 1: stand on This otani game greatest baseball performance of all
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  Speaker 1: time in one? GAME i think it's.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to argue it's not top, five WHICH i
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  Speaker 2: know that you. Know to, me it's kind of an eye.
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  Speaker 2: Beholder there's so much subjectivity to. It it is the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs which amped up to your. POINT i think That
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  Speaker 2: reckwis game might might be the single handedly best game.
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  Speaker 2: Ever you, know no no with two. HOMERS i think
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  Speaker 2: that could Be actually was going back really really deep
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  Speaker 2: and some old game scorers On Baseball, reference and it
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  Speaker 2: Was Joe osugar and the nineteen twenties for The Boston,
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  Speaker 2: braves his twenty six innings in a one to one.
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  Speaker 2: TIE i mean it might be it might be one
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  Speaker 2: of the most impressive performances, ever, right twenty six, Innings
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  Speaker 2: that's that's. Something but in true modern, baseball it's it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to find a bigger. PERFORMANCE i might argue you
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  Speaker 2: from a pure like leverage importance, perspective you, KNOW i
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: might go with like Your Don larson perfect, game like
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  Speaker 2: series was tied to to something like. That you have
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  Speaker 2: The Bobby, gibson you, know complete game scenario and when
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  Speaker 2: he had three complete games sixty Seven World. Series you,
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  Speaker 2: know it's those ones to, me, like that's where it's
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  Speaker 2: it's right there from a peer like amazing perspective of
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  Speaker 2: what you did six hitting Sent kay's three. Homers, yeah
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  Speaker 2: at the same, TIME i you, know he came out
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  Speaker 2: with seventh and started getting batted around a little. Bit
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  Speaker 2: so like you, know if you would, have if you
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  Speaker 2: would have stuck it out and done a complete, game,
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  Speaker 2: sure let's let's call it the best game. Ever I'm
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  Speaker 2: i'm putting the top. FIVE i don't know. THAT i
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  Speaker 2: can like crown it definitively the best game, ever BECAUSE
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  Speaker 2: i think there's been more, impactful important performances and more impactful.
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  Speaker 2: Games but it's it's right, there it's right. There So
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  Speaker 2: i've seen a lot of people say it definitively. Is
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  Speaker 2: i'm not gonna argue. That i'm not gonna argue, that
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  Speaker 2: BUT i think there's a few out there that if
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  Speaker 2: you dig deep, enough that you can be, like, well
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  Speaker 2: this this was a pretty impressive performance as. Well it's
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  Speaker 2: just recency biased Into. Sotani, so, uh what the thing,
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  Speaker 2: is what he's gonna do something more impressive in the.
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  Speaker 2: FUTURE i don't know what it, is but he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: throw like a perfect game and hit four Bombs like
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be something like.
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  Speaker 1: That, YEAH i MEAN i think so that like there
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  Speaker 1: is a little bit of like that leverage index to
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  Speaker 1: this performance, too where you, know it wasn't In game,
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  Speaker 1: seven it wasn't in The World, series it wasn't A
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  Speaker 1: game four and a cap off a pretty, beaten down
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  Speaker 1: Down trot And brewist and just absolutely got their faces knocked,
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  Speaker 1: In and so there is that factor a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: too where you could just see their hearts sinking in
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  Speaker 1: real time during that, game as you, Know otani is
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely lighting them. Up and so, YEAH i think if, anything,
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  Speaker 1: though it Gives otani a little bit of wiggle room
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  Speaker 1: Because i'm not gonna put it past. Him we should
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  Speaker 1: see him pitch a couple times in The World, SERIES i,
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  Speaker 1: Think and so that's not even. Factoring and there's a
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  Speaker 1: really good chance we're gonna see some sort OF wbc
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  Speaker 1: moment where he came in and closed out the game
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  Speaker 1: against THE us and striking Out Mike trout a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years, ago where you can see that scenario if
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  Speaker 1: The World series does go A game, seven That otani
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  Speaker 1: could do something else amazing like that and just really
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  Speaker 1: cement this legacy that he's already. Gotten you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about maybe somebody else we should have talked about
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  Speaker 1: for investments going to the, playoffs but we didn't think
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  Speaker 1: about it because the market was already kind of. Steep
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  Speaker 1: it kicked up another notch after That otani, game WHERE
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  Speaker 1: i don't, know LIKE i feel, like kind, of as you,
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  Speaker 1: know and AS i haven't, discussed, Like i've got a
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  Speaker 1: decent Sized otani, collection AND i feel like every Time
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: i'm about to sell parts of, it and at like the,
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  Speaker 1: peak another peak comes and like it JUST i don't
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: know how much further can, go but it keeps. Going
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: it's the weirdest elastic or is that an elastic?
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  Speaker 2: Demand, yeah It's it's funny BECAUSE I i did sell An atani.
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  Speaker 2: Rookie it was like an optic rid, rookie and LIKE
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  Speaker 2: i put on AN e and it's sold in like five.
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  Speaker 2: MINUTES i probably, underpriced is what came down. To BUT
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  Speaker 2: i stopped short of LIKE i have My chrome Uh otani,
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  Speaker 2: rookie AND i and a few others THAT i stopped short.
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  Speaker 2: Of like, yeah like it's it's hard to say like
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: a rated like a non license something like. That it's, like,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: YEAH i think that's the time to move. It you're
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: not gonna ever probably do better than. That but you
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: look at some of like the greats of the game
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  Speaker 2: and Their chrome. Rookies it was like like An Albert,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: poohols His chrome rookie is still probably two, x if
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: not three x What otani. Says you look at A,
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: trout even though arguably right, now If otani's markets hotter Than,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Trouts trout's base rookie not even a chrome is still
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: two x like The otani chrome like in those so
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  Speaker 2: the length and the angevity those careers do drive. Something
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: there's also the other side where The otani has a
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: little bit, more, uh there's a little more market over
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  Speaker 2: production at the, time not quite when when he really
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: burst on the, screen but it, was it was. There
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: so it's. Tough BUT i to, me it's kind of
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: a you gotta heade your, bets maybe sell a few
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: a few things that are hot that normally wouldn't, be
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and that you got to keep the. Core he got
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: to keep any, autos you, know bass, chrome you know
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  Speaker 2: crazy cool inserts that you know from the rookie year like.
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  Speaker 2: It his market is, unbelievable and you, know it's it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to, LIKE i feel like we've said this before
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  Speaker 2: about players Like trout And Pooh hooles and stuff like.
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  Speaker 2: That it's hard to not look at A toddy and
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: say he could be the best player there ever was
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: as long as he stays healthy and that and that's
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  Speaker 2: the the epitome of the game that we we love to.
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  Speaker 1: Watch so, YEAH i, MEAN i don't even know if
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  Speaker 1: he has to clear that bar for me anymore THAT
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  Speaker 1: i think it's already set and, locked and so there
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  Speaker 1: is that factor as well, as LIKE i think the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: other kind of like unspoken factor to this all is
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  Speaker 1: that we got really lucky that those Ro tani rookie
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: cards if you have, them were printed in twenty. Eighteen
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  Speaker 1: you can see it at any analysis that has happened
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: over tops print runs over the past twenty to twenty five. Years,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: honestly the print runs in twenty eighteen were pretty similar
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to like what they were back for The Albert poole
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: stays that chrome was also pretty it was in like
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a chrome traded which is even more like yeah, limited
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and like it was especially a little more hobby focused
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: back then when it was a chrome traded back in the.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Day So otani doesn't have that. Factor but you're talking
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: even just the flagship base cards somewhere in like the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty to four hundred thousand print run,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: range whereas like the base card of like A elie
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: de La cruz you're looking at like three and a half,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: million and so that's a ten x print, run AND
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: i think that is going to really limit a lot
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: of The otani that happens on top of like there
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: was that little bit of loll in twenty, nineteen twenty
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: twenty where it looked Like otani was gonna flame out
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: after that First Tommy john, surgery and people all loaded
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of product or tucked it away or just
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: totally forgot about where it's. At and so there's just
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: a lot Of otani rookie cards that never see the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: light of day because of, that on top of it
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: already being a lot more limited compared to where the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: market is for any other new release coming. Out all, right,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: well with, that let's move into some of The World
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: series preview THAT i was hint and. Act so we've
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: got two very blue teams to the point WHERE i
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Saw Sports center today was using a red background for The,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: dodgers and it just totally like broke my brain or
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you're just, like you do not need to be doing.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: THAT espn just put them both on blue backgrounds with their.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Logos we know that, honestly it's even like the same
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: mix of like blue and a little bit of red
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and white on all their, Uniforms so they're really mirror
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: each other that. Way on total opposite parts Of North,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: america Between toronto and la and we've got two. Heavyweights
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: both of these teams are top five and, payrolls so
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: they certainly paid to be able to get their way
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: into This World, series WHICH i mean good and BAD i,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: think because like we are going to get a lot
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: of we've already gotten a lot of terrible discourse about
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: what this means for baseball going. Forward BUT i think
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you also want to have some sort of relationship between
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: spending and making it far and far in the, playoffs
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: because you can't just have some of these loser franchises
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like The White sox And pirates kind of sneaking their way.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: In but given all that line up for a Great
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: World series match up. Here this is the third time
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: The Blue jays have been in The World. Series the
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: first two were really stand out in my mind because
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that's really WHEN i started getting too, baseball when we
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: were like five six years. Old the ninety three team
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: is a huge part of my memories growing. Up so
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: let's start with The Blue jays here. First what do
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: you see being their pathway to winning This World series
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and giving them their first crown in thirty two? Years
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like there are certainly the, underdog but they've bowld thoze
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: their way through these playoffs and a lot of tough
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: teams won a Tough Al east. DIVISION i think they're
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: ready for. It what about, You, YEAH i MEAN i
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: think they.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: ARE i, mean big. Storylines they Get boba shut back
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: for the first time and you, know a month and a,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: half and SO i think that that plays plays. Well
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: AND i look at it and it's, like to, me
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: they've got a potentially dynamite starting, rotation and dynamites the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: word it could blow up good or. Bad like if
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: if you look at, it Like, GOSMAN i think he,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: is you, know considered their, ace but there's like he's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: one of those guys that Like, clunker everyone's while for
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: sure having a savage, there like with a whole like
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: what half an any you know of regular season ball
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: that he's ever. Pitched bieber coming back off the, Injuries
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Max scherzer all of a, sudden you, Know Mad max
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: coming back like. That that rotation could be absolutely. Nasty
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: it absolutely. Could it could also do the absolute, Opposite
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: AND i think that's that's really what's gonna be their
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: ride or. Die they're they're gonna put up a dec
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: number runs but not a absolute ton of round. There
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: this is a lineup to me that has holes and
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you know through the middle of the, lineup especially if
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: you get bow back and you Go, Springer, Bogue, Errero
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: kirk Far, show, LIKE i think that's that's, Good but
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you're still relying on guys Like Ernie clement and you,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: KNOW i Kf Ajmena Andrew. Semenez like from a pure
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: like top to bottom lineup is just not as. Strong
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the bench isn't necessarily, strong and even the bullpen is is.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: SHAKY i, Mean Jeff, Hoffman Sir Anthony dimingez at the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: back of your, bullpen like just like the rotation. There
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: those guys can be absolutely shut down and they can
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: absolutely blow. Up and SO i think it's LIKE i
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: hate to, say like this series hinges on The Blue jays,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: pitch but that's kind of WHERE i FEEL i feel
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: like it. Is so maybe that's just. Me what do you?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Think AM i AM i off my rocker?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Here, NO i think you've called it BECAUSE i think
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the soft underbelly of this team is that. BULLPEN i
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: think the other kind of factor we saw this a
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: little bit in The seattle. Series it just didn't necessarily
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: turn into an issue for The Blue jays is That
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: goussman And Ye savage are both splitter, guys which can
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: one get a little, wild and, Two i'd be really
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: careful about how you mix and match the looks on
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: back to back days Between gosman And Ya savage because
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you see that splitter too many, times you'd end up Like.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Bizardo and so, YEAH i think that there's gonna be
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: some learning lessons That John schneider got from Watching Dan wilson,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: manage AND i think he might be able to leverage
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: them because he's got some of the same issues with
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this bullpen and pitching. STAFF i will say that like
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: THE x factor probably for The Blue jays that goes
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: under the radar is they were the number one defensive
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: team by base runs On fangrafts during the regular. Season
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: SO i mean that is why Like Kyer Fleuffa Andre
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: siminiz certainly are not any one year intimidated by from
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: when they're in the batter's. Box but they can both
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: lay down sack, bunts which is pretty, solid and their
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: defense up the middle is just about second to. None
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: so that is going to be something THAT i think
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: could give The Blue jays a little bit of an
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: edge here going forward into The World series is that
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the defense doesn't pop out when you look at the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: surface double stats because they're just not the ones that
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: are on the back of the baseball card or in
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Those rodo five y Five rodo. Standings so that is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: going to be a big factor in This World series for.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Them all, right what about The. Dodgers i'll let you go.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: First in The, dodgers what's your? Storyline what are you
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: watch them?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: For, OKAY i MEAN i called them to be the
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: winner when we start these, playoffs and IT'S i think
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of the same. Thing this team is just
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really tough to find a weakness in, them,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Right like it is the bullpen, probably but we've seen
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: how they've kind of fixed that because when you're Throwing,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Otani yamamoto glass Now, snell you can figure it out
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that like Rookie sasaki maybe has not been in the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: strike zone all the, time but like it's still pretty
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: nasty and you just got to find a couple of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: bulpen arms to get you through. It and then oh,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: yeah if that doesn't, work you, know Maybe otani will
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: hit three, homers Maybe Freddy freeman will go, off Maybe
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Mookie betts will be. Unstoppable it's really just a matter, of,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: like can The dodgers get out of their own way
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that like it feels like this is their series to.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Lose And i'm expecting some really big stuff out Of
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: otani and all the other stars that they've, got because
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this is when they will really show up on the big.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Stage so what do you. Think is AM i over
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: looking some weakness on this?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: TEAM i want to say so BECAUSE i didn't pick,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: him and IT'S i think it was more out of
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: spite than the actual. Analysis AND i, mean, YEAH i
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: think the, bullpen if, anything is a little, shaky but
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you know it's that's that's poking. Holes at the end
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: of the, day this is one of the deepest lineups
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: in the, league and it looks to be actually almost
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: all healthy right, now and that's THAT'S i. Think actually
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a big story line for The dodgers is. Health like
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: a guy Like Blake snell who struggled all, Year Young
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: moto's had a few issues here in the glass now
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: we all just know glass now is like, glass and
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: so the fact that almost all of these guys are,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: healthy you, know plane and you know you're really just
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: down Like, Tanner scott's been been nicked, up and you've
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: got a, few you, know few starters in your depth
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that are. Hurt but you, know otherwise it's it's not
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: too much that's really holding you. Back SO i think
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: that they are the odds on. Favorite there shouldn't really
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: be a question about. That you. KNOW i wouldn't be
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: shocked if somebody comes out of the woodwork from the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: team and it's and here goes you, Know Keihi hernandez or,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: something Or Tommy edmund doing doing things and making a
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: name for, themselves or Somehow roki ends up pitching like
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: six innings out of the bullpen and shut down no,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: hitter like there's something's gonna. Happen it just feels like
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: dustiny with this. Team So i'm not picking against. Them
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: i'm rootin to on some absolutely uh Go Blue. Jays
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: i'm fine with fine with, that but it's it's gonna be,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: hard you, KNOW i don't know about, you what what's your.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: PREDICTION i Think i've Got dodgers In i'm gonna Take
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: dodgers in. Five i'm gonna do them in, seven BECAUSE
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: i do think that The Blue jays will have a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: lot of fight in.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Them the home field advantage is gonna make a big.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Difference that That Rogers center was absolutely rocking on In game.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Seven when they closed that, dome it turns into, just,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: uh just an entire mad house. There on top of just,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: LIKE i think That canada's also really got a lot into,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: this considering the state OF Us canadian political relations right,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: now that, like seeing The Blue jays pull off this
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: world series would be just really gratifying as, Well and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: SO i think that they've got a lot going for.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Them the bashet factor is going to be big. Too
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: SO i think The Blue jays can push The dodgers
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of seven, games BUT i just don't see them being
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: able to overcome the machine that is The Los Angeles.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: DODGERS i feel like there was a tariff joke in there,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: somewhere But i'm just gonna leave it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Big there's a lot of good jokes in, there but
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: we will let it all the rest. Okay, well before
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: we get into discussing Tops holiday twenty twenty, five let's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: talk about some of the release calendar, updates because this
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: thing is shuffling rapidly like every, day not only between
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: all the products That tops is trying to get out
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the door for the holiday, season but on top of,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it they've picked up THE nba license, too and you
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: can tell that it's impacting the way that they're able
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: to plan out the baseball card. RELEASES i think we've
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: already run into some issues WHERE i saw online that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: they're delaying some of the shipments of like value boxes
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: FOR Tops, update which was supposed to be coming out on,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: ten twenty nine next, week and we'll have the preview for.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: That but that's big considering like that is a huge
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: product that you want to be among the first to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: get it opened and posted On. eBay if you're waiting
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a couple weeks for your value, boxes that's no. Bueno
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: but otherwise we have on the holiday or on the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: calendar holiday release. Today also released Today Diamond icons of
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a higher end. Set LIKE i, said next week will
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: BE Tops. Update we'll cover, that then we'll be back
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: for another one or maybe do we have to cover
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: this next week, Too alan And ginter coming out On november, Three,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: yes we, Will so we're gonna have a double dip
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: next week Because alan And ginter usually a spring release
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: got way delayed and is now coming. Out, Finally Panini
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: select has been hanging out On november fifth for a long.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: TIME i doubt that one's gonna hit the, shelves just
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: given everything else being pushed. Back Pro debut eleven, Twelve
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Paninie National treasures eleven. Nineteen and then we also got
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: news That Tops Chrome, update the pre order is going
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: to go up On november tenth On tops Dot COM
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: tbd on that release date because that's gonna be, big
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: especially If Cal raley wins THE. Mvp you're gonna have
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: THE MVP mvp buy back in that, product and you're
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: gonna know about, it and so that's gonna be a
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: little bit of a strange. Situation what stands out to
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you from that calendar, update because since we talked last,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: week there's been a decent amount of.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Shuffling, YEAH i think the big the big one Stops Chrome.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Update to your point WITH mvp buy back IS i
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: do Think cal's to me is gonna end up with THE.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Mvp whether he should or not a different. DISCUSSION i
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: think he will end up with. It SO i think
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that is going to be a really unique. Scenario having
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: knowing H h that going going. IN i also think
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: that the the like pro debut is one of those
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: THAT i would be shocked if it actually hits this.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Date it feels like that's the one that's easily going
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to get shuffle shuffled out because they're not gonna want
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: to Miss Diamond, icons not gonna want to Miss Alan. Ginter.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Again it might, happen but you, KNOW i expect Pro
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: view is really really low on that, list SO i
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: think we're probably not done seeing the. Shuffling, uh they'll
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: probably be able to Keep top updates where it, is
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and a week from now we should we should be
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: ripping that one as. Well so we got some. Fun
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a fun next, month month and a
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: half of card. Ripping, YEAH i sure will.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Be all, right we're going to take a short break
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and then we will be back to discuss twenty twenty
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Five Tops. Holiday all, right welcome, back. Everybody we are
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: going to dive right Into Tops holiday twenty twenty five.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Release it is dropping today On october twenty. Second as we're,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Speaking i've got a box in. Hand we're gonna go
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: over the overview the preview of the, set and then
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: we're going to do a live audio pod rip of this.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Box i'll just say what HITS i get and, stuff
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: because it'll be very, odd but it's a it's maybe
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: a jumping the shark moment for. Us maybe, not we'll.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: See maybe it's a new.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Tradition it could this is good to go fantastic by the,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: way or just absolutely. Terrible here's just dead silence of
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: pack ruppin and shuffling of, cards like and you could
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: hit something amazing and it just makes the whole, show
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: or you just go through and you have absolutely nothing
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: and you hit like a relic of. Bizarro yeah out,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: here so relicant. Here so, yes we will save that
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: for the second.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Half we will give you the the preview with the
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: checklist that we usually do when there's a new, release
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and it's been it's gonna be a little on the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: fly because, honestly as we've been, speaking we've still been
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: getting checklist. Details WHEN i put together this show this
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: morning and was texting, you there was still no official
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: checklist From Tops Holiday on or Like tops for The
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Holiday checklist before it, dropped and so the websites that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: we even. Use. Uh just a couple hours, Ago beckett
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: finally had a basic checklist put, together but we're still
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: looking for ones with, odds and, honestly on top of,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: it we're still finding parallels On eBay that aren't even
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: in the. Checklist so we're trying to like line it all.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Up we're going to do our best to navigate our
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: way through. THAT i really hope that in the box
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: we hit one of these like parallels that we're having,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: trouble like putting a name from the checklist to on,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: eBay because that would just be the cherry on top of.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Everything but at this point you can literal everything is
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: a super short prank because you don't know what it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Is and that was that's the way While west works On,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: eBay and.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: That is like creating a lot of chaos because that
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: is like one of the hallmarks OF tops holiday every
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: year is that it's got tons of different, parallels to
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the point where like people are often confusing whether it's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: a short, print a super short, print a super super short,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: print what type of parallel it, Is and the best
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: way to figure that out is by looking at the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: little codes in the back of the. Cards so it'll
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: be at the bottom when you're opening these, cards and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: all cards nowadays have these where you can actually see
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: they've got individual. Codes but then the short prints and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: everything have different number variations to be able to know
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: which is, which and so since we're flying a little bit,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: blind it makes it really difficult with this set because
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: if you're not familiar With Tops, holiday what they do
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: is they take the flagship design every year and then
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: add A christmas y winter Your holiday flare to it
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: where this, year, honestly it looks. Fantastic i've ripped three
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: value box or megaboxes. Already i've got the fourth one for.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Us but the marriage of the twenty twenty five design
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: with the holiday has been great because if you've been
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: ripping twenty twenty five, flagship you'll notice it's had a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: little bit of a foil to, it like a little
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: bit of a metallic look around the edges where there's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: LIKE i would call, it like the, piping the wavy
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: design on, it and it pops On Tops holiday where
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: they've kind of taken that base, design added some candy
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: cane to, it added some snowflakes around, it and then
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: all your short prints and stuff like that are going
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to Include santa, hats hitden, elves lights, Everywhere. Garling the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: worst ones to try to find are The Santa claus.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: BELTS i don't know how many there are in this,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: set because it seems like they tweaked that a little
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: bit this. Year we'll get into, that but lots of
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: fun things to go through and. Find where just Tops
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: holiday rank in your kind of favorite sets that you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: look forward to every? Year brew because we talk about
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: it a, LOT i think we both really love. It
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: it isn't a four. Rip we'll get into that a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: little bit, Too but in terms of your kind of
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like pantheon of releases you're looking forward to every, year
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Where's holiday?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: AT i feel Like holidays like the guilty pleasure rip
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: at the end of the, day because LIKE i generally
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: end up not grabbing it and then like you just
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: text me, like, HEY i got four boxes rip And i'm,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: like why DIDN'T i get? Me and Then i'm like
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: and Then i'm gonna end up like just walking by
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it in the store and be, Like, oh it's cheap
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: and it's a guaranteed. Hit i'm gonna grab. One i'm
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: gonna grab another. One then and then you're gonna come
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: look back at These holiday cars are kind of goofy.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Looking you're, like WHY'D i end up with all? These
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: but it is, very very, fun AND i think of
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: products to like enjoy, ripping not ripping for, value ripping for,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: resale just to. Enjoy you're guaranteed to. Hit you also
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: have lots of, variation WHICH i think is an important
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: thing in a, Product whereas with the overprinting and overproduction
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: we have, now sometimes you can open like six seven
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: packs and hip base based, base you don't have that
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: intrigue Where holiday is just full of interesting things and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: they're all. Hidden it's kind of like heritage in a,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: way but. Goofy maybe a little funny this year that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: it came out Before, halloween but it is a guilty pleasure.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: RIP i think it's one of the more fun. Rips
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: it's probably the last affordable rip after we lost Like
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Opening day and things like. That So i'm gonna say
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: it's definitely behind your flagships and your, chromes and probably
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: behind your heritage and, stadium but it definitely is up
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: there above a heck of a lot for. Me it's
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: probably up there above bowmen for. Me just because at
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: this Point bowman is so unattainable that the availability of
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: holidays is makes it very very much worth.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It, YEAH i Think i'm in. AGREEMENT i think maybe
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: mine my top one Is Stadium club and Then chrome
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: and then Actually holiday after. THAT i like it better Than,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: flagship just because it is really fun opening these packs
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: from the megaboxes and getting a hit in every, pack
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: and so it just adds to the fun of like
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: going through in the excitement of seeing what you've. Got
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and so you've got lots of different options to be
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: able to rip Tops. Holiday the one that is especially
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: dropped today is The, megabox which retails for about thirty,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: bucks and so with that you're looking at one guaranteed
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: hit in. There it's either an autograph or relic or
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: they've added the chrome now this, year which should also be.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: NUMBERED i hit A Kumar rocker Blue chrome parallel in
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: one of my boxes, today and SO i think it's
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a great. ADDITION i like the chrome variation of these.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Cards they just do look, really really. Slick the other
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: ways that you can collect this are there's A holiday
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: ten they should retail for around forty five, bucks and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: an advent calendar that's around fifty. BUCKS i haven't seen,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: those AND i think they might be more of like
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: things that are held for an actual holidays a little
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: bit more. So you'll probably start seeing those in retail
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: shelves in a couple of. Weeks but you are starting
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to see some of those surface On eBay because of you,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: know when you're working with dealers and, stuff they can
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: find stuff at different times and get things a little.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Early you can tell that some of those are starting
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to be ripped because there are separate parallels between the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: megaboxes in the. Tins in the, megaboxes you're going to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: have the sparkle versions is What i'm calling, them but
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: they're actually you, know. Glitter this is a standard for
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: holiday every, year and then the collector's tins have we're
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: called holiday light, parallels where it's a lot like the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: flagship where you get the different kind of variations around
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: the edges of the. Border that's what the lights will
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: be for those tin. Parallels BUT i will say Traditionally
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: i've been pretty disappointed with the glitter parallels in the.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Past these are, Great these are great glitter. Parallels this,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: year all the ones That i've seen have just really.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Popped they've got like the right amount of, glitter the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: right amount of color along with that metallic finish from
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five. Design i've been really enjoying What
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: i've been ripping so far out of. Holiday so what
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: do you think about these different, parallels anything that really
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: kind of stands out maybe from the regular kind of
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: setup of tops holiday versus these parallels before we get
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: into the rundown of all of, them because it is
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a shorter checklist for the actual, rainbow not gonna take
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: us too long to count how many we've, Got but,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: brew what do you think about these?
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Parallels, YEAH i, MEAN i think the fact that the
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: metallic and glitter have like are showing up. BETTER i
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: feel like in the past some of, those especially the
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: metallic like have actually been almost hard to. Tell they've
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: been like it's like they put a little glitter on
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: a card and called the, parallel but all the glitter fell,
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: off like and you could just you almost like had
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: to touch the card to see the. Difference and So
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: i'm excited about. THAT i feel like they've also brought
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: more color in this, year WHICH i get it's over.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Productions that's part of why it's. Happening but WHAT i
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: like that they've done is that they've maintained the. Theme
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: they didn't go too crazy and maybe the purples are
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: a little little on the edge, here but you've got
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: green and blues and reds and it Feels christmasy like
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to. Do SO i absolutely think that that's.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: GREAT i think that they've kept to the theme and
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: it feels like it all fits. Together AND i also
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: love this as one of those it's it's a smaller
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: base set. Checklist you only have two hundred cards in,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: this and so because you have these different, parallels it's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: actually intriguing to put together you, know the red metallic
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: set or you know the holiday lights, set or like
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: there's fun like little chases in here that you can
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: actually go after building these these unique, sets and it's relatively.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Available SO i love that as a part of. It
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: so haven't really haven't brokentd myself this, year BUT i
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be another great year for the.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Parallels, YEP i totally. Agree, Well i'm going to pass
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: it back to you to run through those parallels because
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: it is a much more limited. Checklist LIKE i, said
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you've only got the glitter parallels from the megaboxes and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the holiday lights parallels from the. Tins so if you're
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: looking for an easier rainbow to put, together this is
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: where it's. AT i can, say based on the volume
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: of holiday out there and what's On eBay right, now
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: some of these glitter parallels are gonna be hard to
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: surface because not much has already surfaced, today AND i
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: know that people have been ripping. It so we don't
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: even have like a number base for some of these
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: because we just haven't gotten that level of information yet
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: out Of tops or any of the checklist. Places so
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna run through the. Parallels you're not even
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: gonna know necessarily maybe all the, numbers but let the
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: folks out there know they're going for the rainbow what
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: they're looking. For, yeah this is gonna be.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Tough i'm trying to compare which CHECKLIST i go off
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: of here because some of them have, numbering some of
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: them don't because we're still trying to figure this. Out
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: But i'm gonna go look at the base perils. Here
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: we're gonna Go megabox Than collector's ten because there's a
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: little bit more detail over. Here so from your, megabox
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: your base, perils you have your silver, glitter you have
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: your blue metallic, glitter and you have your light blue
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: and white. Glitter you have your purple, glitter which we
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: believe is out of ninety, nine your Red december twenty
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: fifth out of twenty. Five i'll see what they did.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: There we have red, metallic which we do not know
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: what that's out. Of we have light Blue, manoras supposedly
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: out of. Eight i'm not Sure i'm buying that one,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: yet but that actually does make a lot of, sense green,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: glitter and gold. Metallic and then you jump over to collectors.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Ten this is where you have your gold holiday, lights
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: your blue metallic holiday, lights your purple red, metallic green
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: and green or golden metallic holiday. Lights the, purple, red
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and green and golden are all all numbered as. Well
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: SO i don't know what to do with myself here
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: since we went through all of. THEM i think there
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: is also a plaid advent calendar one as, well BUT
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: i went through. Roughly i'm just gonna eyeball it. Here
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: sixteen to eighteen parallels and usually we're in the like
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: fifty to, sixty SO i didn't need a, drink didn't
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: need to catch my. Breath we were able to get through,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: it AND i feel a little.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Empty, yeah it really kind of faded out. FAST i
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: mean there are still the chrome parallels, two WHICH i
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: MEAN i will cover real fast BECAUSE i believe it's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: for every. Card it's a little sketchy on the, details
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: but based on me pulling My Kumar rocker, Parallel i'm
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: pretty sure it's for every. Card and so for, those
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you're looking at a purple refractor chrome two ninety, nine
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: blue chrome refractor one ninety, nine blue sparkle refractor of
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: one ninety, nine that's the ONE i got in My Kumai,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: rocker a green refractor of ninety, nine green sparkle refractor
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: of ninety, nine gold refractor of, fifty orange refractor of twenty,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: five black refractor of, ten red refractor of, five and
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: superfractor one of. One so that is where they came
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: back and hit you with the blue and blue, sparkle
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: green and grease sparkle that we're used to seeing in
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: all the chrome, parallels but again still. Prelimited so if
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: you're looking for an easier set to put together in
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: terms of The Rainbow tops holiday is probably the best
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: way to, go and especially like once you start getting
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: into some of those metallic, ONES i think some of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: them start getting pretty cheap, too AND i think we'll
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: find the same with some of those chrome ones as
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: they go through, time because you, know, people they're certainly
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: a great hit from holiday when it first. Hits But
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: i'm not gonna try to say that this stuff holds
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: its value the best because people want it and they
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: do tuck them, away so like there is that, factor
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: but it is not like the number one chase card
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: for lots of. Folks let's get into some of what
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: makes the fun in terms of the holiday variations and
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: short prints that we see out, there along with some
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: of the new stuff that we're looking. At so first
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: we were discussing this a little. Bit we realized that
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: usually there's three levels of short prints That tops puts
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: out for these, holidays between AN sp AND ssp and
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: THEN ansp where they had different you, know, hats winter, hats,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: lights all sorts of stuff going, on even embedded kind
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Of santa clauses and stuff in the. Background they've really
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: kind of made it, EASIER i, think because there's so
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: much variation that kind of made it fun and hard
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to make it. Distinguish so now they've only got THE
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: sp AND ssp where you get like those different Silly
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: santa hats and lights on. Players much easier to distinguish now,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: too in terms of where they are in the pack
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and just the overall design of. Them then they've also
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: got The elf The Hidden Elf, parallels which is its own,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: set and they've introduced this new one that is called
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: The Holiday backs, variation which we're trying to figure. Out
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: this is the biggest thing we're trying to. Solve there's
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: supposedly a short print and a super short print of.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: THAT i have not seen any of the super short
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: prints and the SSPs, there and so there's lots of
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: confusion over it On eBay right. Now there's also another
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: parallel that isn't in the checklist that we've, covered but
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: we found one of, them and it's A yama moto
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: where there's an actual like tpe of snow on top
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: of the little logo on the front of the card
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: where it's showing the position of the player from the
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Design only when we've seen of, that
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: AND i don't even know what it's. Called so maybe
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: that plays into these holiday. Backs but anything that you've,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: SEEN i know you are a Resident eBay. Sleuth you
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: are much better THAN i. Am anything that you've surfaced
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: within the past half hour of us recording.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Nothing necessarily. NEW i did find The vlad guerrero and A,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: yamamoto so the of the little snow caps over the
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: the logo, there AND i still have no idea what they.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: ARE i can tell you it's a short. PRINT i
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: don't know what kind of short. PRINT i. DON'T i
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: know that the number is different on the back and,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: that and that's the thing that stood out to. Us
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: but you know, IT I i've not seen any more of.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Those they must be like to. ME i think what
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: you were said earlier is like there's short. Prints historically
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: has been short prints and super short. PRINTS i wonder
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: if we have a super super short print that's just
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: not made it in the checklist or something like. That
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: yet The yamamoto that we, saw you, know is, listed
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: and so it's the black guerrero under a holiday super
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: short prints in the in the, checklist and So i'm
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: guessing that's where it. Is BUT i think that those
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: are supposed to be like The santa hats and the
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: belts and things like, that and so it's kind of
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: hard to tell what they've called the short prints this time.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Around so we do have one mystery that that's sitting out.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: There and if you're bubble and through things and you
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: find a card that you can't quite tell what's different about,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: it and you see the snow caps on the on
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: the little field icon on the bottom right hand, corner
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: hold on to that one because it appears to be
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: a very very rare card that nobody knows knows about
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: from from. These the other thing is that The holiday,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: backs we we haven't really seen different variations of, that
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: but we believe that there. Are The holiday backs is
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: an interesting one because it it kind of reminds me
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: of some of your Like allen And ginter's or different
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: where you have like your Old piedmont backs And basic
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: backs Or Polar bear backs like things like, that, which
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: to be, HONEST i don't love when it's just the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: back is different because it's a lot harder to find
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: and dig through and. Enjoy it doesn't it, doesn't it
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: doesn't have a little fun holiday esqueness to, it because
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: it's not some gimmick on the. Front so it's it's
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be fun to see what else that we find in.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Here but it's still still, developing.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, Exactly SO i mean kind of keep that in
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: mind when you're also looking through. eBay i'd be careful
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: with any of the holiday backs that say they're super
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: super short. Prints that's the two US's just BECAUSE i
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: haven't seen any of them actually be, SSPs because they've
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: all got the same. Numbers that will be your fallback
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: is that if you're ripping this, product you're not sure what's.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: What look at the code on the back of the.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Card it's really, tiny but you should be able to
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: distinguish what is a, base what's a short, print and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: kind of line it up from. There especially after this pod,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: drops people will have more info out there on terms
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: of like what the codes line up to. Be we
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: just haven't had that because we got the checklist so
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: late on this product compared to the other.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Ones, WELL i want to say share big news. HERE
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: i just saw it On tani get posted of that short.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Print we don't know what it is that has the
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: snow over the icon and it wasn't cheap otherwise hold
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: a bottom already post on hered fifty. Dollars that one's
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: not on the short super short print checklist that we
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: were looking. At we thought it might have. Been it's
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: so it is a different parallel that isn't on any
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: of these checklist because he's only on this the short print.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Checklist he's not on the super short holiday. Checklist so
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: there is An atani out there, now plus The almamoto
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: and The Black guerrero that have this ssp aura about.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Them so more to come on this. One we're gonna
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: have to follow up maybe next week once we figure
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: out what these. Are but there you're going to find
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: one of your. BOX i think that's what's gonna happen.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Here you're gonna find.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: One what's going to.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Happen, yeah That otani's out there as.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Well, So AND i, mean because we've only seen a
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: couple of those snowcap, ONES i think they're super duper.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Rare so if you do have, one, HONESTLY i think
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: if it is one hundred and fifty bucks on A tani, one.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: YEAH i think it actually might be a be a, stealer,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: right now it's not a Steal i'm going to capitalize,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: on BUT i definitely think it my be a, steal
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: AND i would bet you that that's gonna be gone
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: in like ten. Minutes.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Off and something to keep in mind if you
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: see this stuff at card shows this, weekend or if
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you are perusing eBay and see something that looks a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: little bit, off it's possible that it's not listed correctly
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: and you might have stumbled upon something kind of. Rare
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: so keep that in. Mind that it's the sword will
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: cut both, ways so just kind of watch. Out let's
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: get into some of the, inserts which are super. Rare
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: i've never hit an insert that's, like you know when
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: of These Santa claus, ones or they've also got new
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: ones called the Wish list making Nice, list and the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: other ones called The Santa, archives which is just a
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: whole set of. Sandas these are going to be very.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: RARE i think if you find those as, well, like
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: do not pooh pooh, them because especially Those santa, ones
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: people will collect the heck out of. Them so people
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: are always looking for Those Santa archives. Inserts and then
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: on top of, it the other thing THAT i think
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: people kind of throw away to the side maybe a
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: little bit or don't give enough credence to are the
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: holiday faux. RELICS i will say that the relic in
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: auto checklist here is pretty, solid especially when you're looking
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: at a product that is all retail and you're looking
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: at thirty dollars and you're actually able to hit a
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: relic that DOESN'T i, mean you're doing that for one
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks in flagship on a hobby, box
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and SO i can't really again like poo poo kind
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: of those checklists BECAUSE i think they're pretty solid considering
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: the price. Point but the real big hits here are
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the holiday faux, relics where they will have the five
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: this year are Elf, Ebenezer, scrooge Gingerbread, Man, nutcracker And Santa.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: CLAUS i haven't found any of these On eBay, yet
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: but usually they're signed to by some mystery person At,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: tops which still if that person At, tops if you're,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: listening you want to come on a podcast open invite
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: to whoever signs those holiday faux relics and, autos because,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: uh they're they're hot. Commodities they're very, rare and because of,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: that On top of like just the jokiness of it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: All people absolutely good bananas for, Them they're worth a
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: couple hundred.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: BUCKS i don't understand. This but also LIKE i pay
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: attention enough in the in the general, hobby not just
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the baseball, hobby like Sponge Job bob just came out
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: and sort Of disney and like all these autograph Care
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: like who's the guy that's just like signing these? Is
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: like CAN i Get otani to sign these? Cards Or
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: bob who sits in the back is an? Intern LIKE
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I i don't, Know SO i just think it is
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: kind of this funny ass thing of like, Man i've
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: got The santa's, Autograph like IT'S i don't know who
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: signed this. CARD i mean he's just screwed signed it Yet,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: No No daffy Or donald or whoever did not did
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: not sign that. One so it's it's it's. Fun.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Yes so so if you do find one of, those,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: CERTAINLY i MEAN i would sell it immediately because it
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: is going to go for a decent chunk of change in,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: eBay but also like if you find it later, on
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it is maybe like one of the few cards where
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: this the pricing on, holiday it fizzles out pretty, fast
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: especially from the short print and super short print. Line you,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: know once people put together the couple that they want
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: of the players they, get you, know they'll fall off pretty.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Rapidly WHERE i especially think about like two years, ago
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: LIKE i pulled The Gunner Henderson Super super Short print
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: AND i THINK i sold it for about forty or
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: fifty bucks and it tailed off to like eight to
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: ten dollars pretty, Quickly so that's kind of showing where
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: this stuff. Goes it is still pretty, Rare like it's
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: hard to, hit and it's definitely harder to hit than
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: most eight to ten dollars, cards which is Why i'm
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit more bullish on the long term value
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: of holiday is like these things just kind of get
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: lost in the. Shuffle but if you ever hit one
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: one of those auto relics of like A Santa claus
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: or an alf or, something you'll always be able to
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: move that at pretty much the same.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Value so, yeah you'll be able to move it By
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: like if if IF i had two knits about the,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: set it would it would have been that like the
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: The i'll call them it's the phiol, autograph, Right it's
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: not really a true, autograph they call it a phol.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Autograph and the other one is the ornament. CARDS i
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: want your take on the ornament. Cards they are like
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: my bane and my existence for this product because they you,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: like people collect. Them my kids try to put them
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: on The christmas.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: TREE i put.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Them on AND i have literally no way to store
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: these things because nobody made a top loader that is
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: round like or the shape of A christmas tree or
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: whatever it may.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Be and so what what's your.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: Take on the the ornament.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Cards when you hit a good, one it's cool because
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: then you actually get like a good. Ornament so, actually
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: out of my first three, BOXES i hit A Babe,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: ruth which is a cool one to put on the holiday,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: tree A King Griffey junior also cool to put on
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: the holiday, tree and Also Trade, turner WHICH i have
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: no idea what to do with because like.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: That's when you have your.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Wife i'm not gonna put that on the holiday. Tree
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: it's kind of. Lame and on top of it, too
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: like they're impossible to ship in a pwe and in
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: a posted white, envelope which is what they, deserve and
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: so you're, stuck like you can't sell these THINGS i
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: see people at card shows like hand them out for
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: free to kids and.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Stuff BUT i know the same.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Thing, yeah SO i, mean if they're the good, ONES
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: i like. Them but if you're hitting one of like
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: what is probably Honestly Trade turner might be just about
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the lamest one to, hit or like Luis, anhelakunya you,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: know you just kind of gotta hold it until you
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: find somewhere to dump. It, unfortunately but it is it is,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: FUN i, think especially if you're opening these with kids,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: though that's the type of gimmicky stuff they.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Love, Yeah i'm there with. You this is this is
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: one of the PRODUCTS i enjoy why ripping with my
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: kids because it is it is unique. There it's got
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: these gimmicks and everybody can they can grab The christmas
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: tree and go run, up you, know string it up
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: and throw on the. Tree it's it's. Fun it's. Fun
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: so all, right what else we have to hit or
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: we hit the moment for the first ever. Rip we're almost.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: THERE i will say to everybody check out the show,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: notes to look at the checklists and, stuff because they
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: will certainly change after what we just talked about as
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: more information comes. Out, also go to rasball dot com
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: to see the related post for this, podcast because you'll
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: be able to see pictures of everything we've talked. About
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: so you're not just gonna have to sit there with your.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Imagination you're about to also use to imagine this rip
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: we're about to. Do and so go there at rasball dot,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: com you'll see pictures of everything that we've discussed here
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: in terms of cool inserts and some of the parallels
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: that we've been looking. At so check out those things
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: in the show. Notes with, That i've got the, UH
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: i don't know what do you use to crack the cell.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Fane Usually i've got right now a, Pushpin So i'm
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: gonna use that to get into my.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Megabox, YEAH i see everybody using like knives and things like,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: that And i'm usually the guy that's like picking out
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: a corner or use like a or something like, that
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: like just destroying the edge of the. Box so, like, uh,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: yeah the way he goes to get a box cutter
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: and cut through the cell phane and do it the right.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Way but so as you do, this first of, all
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: is this another of those products where the box is
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: massive relative to the like it's not a few packs are.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Inside it's not too bad you get it because you
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: do get a hundred, cards so it's a pretty good sized.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Pack but you know they've hauled it. Out but it's
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: also good because you know when it's shipping you're gonna
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: get damaged cards. Otherwise all, right here we. Go here's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: the here's the ornament Gunner, henderson maybe one of the
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: other lame. Ones as you, know this is not a,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: guy not a face you really want to be putting
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: on Your christmas trees and not the.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Gunner does not look very happy in that. Picture so all,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: right let's let's do.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: This And i'm just GONNA i know THAT i always
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: like really dog rippers who go straight to the hits
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: the way That i'm about. To BUT i think we
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: have to because you get you get ten packs to
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: ten cards in these makeup, boxes so they're pretty. Solid first.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Pack first first hit we got is the short print
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: variation Of corby And. Carrol lights around the, neck running the.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Bases that is that doesn't sound very, safe by the,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: way run on the bases With christmas lights around your.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: NECK i feel like Something i'd tell my kids knows to.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Do, yeah it is maybe not the greatest motif to be,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: putting you, know strings and stuff around people's necks in this.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Set i've never thought about that until we've gotten into this.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Situation but next hit is can you see that the
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: glitters are so much nicer this? Year this is A
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Nolan seanuel silver, glitter but look how much glitter is on.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: That that's a kindergartener would be.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Proud it does look like it's snowing on, it which
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: is really. COOL i will say the grays on the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: silver glitter parallels very wildly different the way that you'll
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: see on like golds in the. Flagship so there's. That
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: there's ALSO i think we'll see it because we'll probably
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: get one light blue one dark. Blue it's not the same,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: blue and some of the checklists think it is right,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: now so that'll be sorted out in the near future as.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Well the question is which one's actually like rare, ones
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: which one's, not or are they the same?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: THING i think they're the same Because i've been hitting
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: one light blue one dark blue every box for the most.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Part and here's the light. Blue as you can, See,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: yeah looks a lot like The Father's day. Parallel, okay
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: that was number. Three that was a Luise A rise
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: light blue.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Glitter Like, Looser rise is perfect for this. Show we've
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: talked about, it Like. LOOSER i wish we kept track
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: of from what we talked about Because Looser rise will
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: be the top that. List All, right what'd you? Hit
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: you hit? Something?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Here here is the. Hit here's my. Relic it's A
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Paul skins player worn, relic which that's, awesome just the,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: base the, base.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: But Any Paul skins card that's that's gonna be gonna
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: be be. Cool people are looking for.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Those and actually it came with another, Hit Jose ramer's silver,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: glitter so that that's a nice little. Hit this is
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: also there's TWO O tanni cards in this, set so
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: there's one, pitching one. Batting there numbers one and two
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: hundred of the, set so something keep in. Mind at
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: FIRST i thought i'd heard like A O tani parallel
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i had two different. Ones oh there's my First
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Nick Kurtz rookie. Card my other three did not have
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: A Nick Kirk's riki. Card so that is in. Here
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: and there's the darker blue. Glitter that's WHAT i just
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: hit in THIS fi.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Pack that looks really.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Nice, yeah and it's A Gian carlow dark blue. Glitter all.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i am on to path number.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Six and just as you go, through if you really
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: wanted to go after, It Paul skeen's relics are right
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: now about twenty. Dollars so, okay you about paid for
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: your box right.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: THERE i know What i'm doing after. This another silver
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: glitter hitting this pack and It's Byron. Buckson he had
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a great.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Year byron bucks was underappreciated asset this.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: YEAR i am looking forward to all of the arguments
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: we're going to be hiving about him in the spring
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i can see him being everybody's, favorite everybody's most. Hated,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: okay another short print of the. Parallel see this is
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: WHAT i was talking about with The it's just the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: lights around the fernader. Tatis usually they got really. ZANY
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: i don't know if they're doing like belts and stuff this,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: year so it's, lights lots Of santa.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Hats i've seen a few candy canes as. Well oh,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: yes candy.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Canes all. Right we are on pack number eight now,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: ooh we got a card and all Hit Alec burlson
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: silver glitter.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Awesome even those that are listening and don't. Know we
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: actually do our podcast over, zoom so we're not just
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: making these things.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: UP i am showing him the, cards so we, like,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: yeah we're enjoying the experience. Together AND i think you
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: can probably see it a little bit When i'm flashing
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: the mentalic sheen THAT i was talking about from the
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Design it just like it works.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Perfectly, yeah it probably accentuates all the metallic aspects of the.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Holiday all.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Right the hit in this one is one of the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: annoying holiday backs that we're talking. About and this is
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: a five to eight, code but it's just a Regular
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Jackson turio on the, front and then you've got a
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: variation on the back red and green compared to the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: normal has got the blueish.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Back so.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: It is like A i think more of an insert
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: set than anything. Else but hit That Jackson True Last.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Pack see if The Gunny Last pack. Magic get a
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: second hit out of this.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Product we need like A tani or A judge or
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: something like. That let's find something, fun.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Just another silver sparkle mettals in this time There medlson
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: is a fun guy that It, yes he sure. Is
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: and but yeah that wraps the. Box nice little box
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: with the with The Paul skeens hit with The Nick
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Kurtz rookie, card and, UH i can't. Complain i'm gonna
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: really look forward to sort and through this BECAUSE i
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: think between the four megabox THAT i gotten pretty close
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: to the full.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Set but so that that's we talk about the affordability.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Here that's four hundred, cards uh that you just unleash,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: there so not on the, pod but across across your
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: afternoon in the evening.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Here so, yeah that's.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Fun fun sorting for the rest of the. Night it sure.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Is all.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Right well with, that we are gonna wrap it up
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: for this. Week we are gonna be back next. Week
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: LIKE i, Said we've got two more card sets to,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: preview so it's going to be hot and heavy with
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: lots of sets to get through over the next few. Weeks.
• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:09
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• 1:05:10
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• 1:05:18
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• 1:05:20
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• 1:05:42
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• 1:05:46
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• 1:06:00
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• 1:06:05
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• 1:06:10
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• 1:06:12
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• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: said there's lots of great cards coming. Out we've got
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: lots more GREAT pc picks to go, through and we'll be,
• 1:06:21
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• 1:06:25
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