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Most Terrifying Serpentine Lake Monsters of North America: Modern Day Dragons? · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good afternoon, everybody. I hope we have audio today.
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  Speaker 1: How's everybody doing? Welcome into the Cryptid Huntress channel this
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  Speaker 1: beautiful afternoon. I have an incredible show for you guys
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  Speaker 1: lined up. I'm going to be talking about the most
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  Speaker 1: terrifying serpentine lake monsters of North America today. And we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be making some connections potentially to modern day
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  Speaker 1: dragons and dragons of old as well. And I've got
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  Speaker 1: a sneaking suspicion that some of these lake monsters actually
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  Speaker 1: are dragons. And even some of the, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: say sea serpents, river monsters, all that. Thank you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: appreciate y'all very much. And I am referring to last
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  Speaker 1: Monday's show. Where I went about, I'm going to say
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  Speaker 1: a good four to five minutes with no audio. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun there. So I do
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  Speaker 1: apologize for that, y'all. But anyways, it happens. It happens.
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  Speaker 1: This stuff happens occasionally. We are on a glitch in
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  Speaker 1: the matrix today where we all are a little glitchy occasionally.
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  Speaker 1: But I have some really interesting lake monsters to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today. Some monsters that we're seeing in Bay, like
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  Speaker 1: Bay areas of Lake Massachusetts. And we're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: ones that don't have arms and legs today. These are
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  Speaker 1: the ones that are just straight up looking like big
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  Speaker 1: worm-like dragons. And we have these reported all over North America.
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  Speaker 1: We're going into Canada today. We're also going to be
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  Speaker 1: all over America. The United States of America. So buckle up, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: guys so much for all your support. Okay, well, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into this today. All right, so today we're taking
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  Speaker 1: a deep dive into some of North America's most terrifying
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  Speaker 1: serpentine lake monsters. For centuries, witnesses have reported long serpentine
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  Speaker 1: creatures with multiple humps breaking the surface of lakes and rivers,
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  Speaker 1: commonly described as having a head resembling that of a horse,
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  Speaker 1: a sheep, or a dragon. These various aquatic creatures have
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  Speaker 1: been described as being anywhere between 10 feet to 100
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  Speaker 1: feet long. Could these cryptids actually be dragons hiding in
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  Speaker 1: America's lakes? Well, I think they could be, personally, but...
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  Speaker 1: But we're going to see what you guys think today.
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  Speaker 1: And of course, I do have a good buddy of
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  Speaker 1: mine here with us today. Barry's joining us again. He
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  Speaker 1: was here with me on Monday and Barry has given
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  Speaker 1: me some remote viewing targets in the past of some
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  Speaker 1: of these late monsters. And some of them fit the
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  Speaker 1: description of what we're talking about today. And as a
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  Speaker 1: matter of fact, I want to talk about the Loch
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  Speaker 1: Ness Monster remote viewing data a little bit as well.
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  Speaker 1: So please help me welcome to the show, Mr. Barry Littleton.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, Barry?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, hey, what's happening, Jessica? How you doing? This is
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  Speaker 2: a surprise. So it's nice to be here. A little
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  Speaker 2: to your audience and everything.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thanks for being here. Hey, we've had some pretty
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  Speaker 1: good conversations on lake monsters before. And you've given me
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  Speaker 1: some remote viewing targets of some sea servants. And what
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  Speaker 1: are we talking about? The Lusca? There's that one. We
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  Speaker 1: also had, well, the Loch Ness monster as well. I've
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  Speaker 1: actually remote viewed that. And that data contained dragon in it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, go ahead. Keep, keep going though. Keep going.
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  Speaker 2: Cause there's something I'll bring up in a second, but
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  Speaker 2: keep going though. Yeah. Yeah. That was an interesting one.
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  Speaker 2: And also the, the one that of course, when we
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  Speaker 2: first started doing that, the one that, yeah, Got harassed
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  Speaker 2: about organism. Was it 46B? Yes, that one. That is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what I find interesting, that was so controversial,
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  Speaker 2: but that and the whole Lake Bacall, those swimmer thing
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  Speaker 2: there and the stuff going on there, Lake Vostok, whichever,
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  Speaker 2: these both of them have activity. But I came across
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  Speaker 2: not just long ago. I was talking like a day
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  Speaker 2: or two ago. I was catching some of those, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some of those people that are really like seamen.
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  Speaker 2: that read the other logs and go through that, actually
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  Speaker 2: read the logs. And they were talking about that. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of people find that boring, but they were mentioning
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  Speaker 2: these deals where they're all told that if they ever,
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  Speaker 2: it's deep sea rigged people. And if they ever find,
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  Speaker 2: if they ever encounter anything that's like, you know, almost
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  Speaker 2: unknown or what we would call cryptid-like, they're never supposed
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  Speaker 2: to put it in the reports. It'll end their career.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the cat kept saying. There's three of them
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  Speaker 2: that kept saying it again and again. but they're going
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  Speaker 2: over some of these logs. And you know what, one
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  Speaker 2: of them that really just caught my attention was this,
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  Speaker 2: one of these deep rig people said something came up
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  Speaker 2: from deep, way deep and came up from the bottom
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  Speaker 2: and was somewhat, was like translucent to a degree, to
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  Speaker 2: a certain degree, but it was moving the water and
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  Speaker 2: he was able to see like, not totally translucent, but
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  Speaker 2: almost like, you know, something that's never been near light.
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  Speaker 2: And I've had guys to work with. He's passed now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been 30 years ago now. But he
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  Speaker 2: was in the Navy at one point, and he said
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  Speaker 2: he'd seen something. He's out on one of those ships
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  Speaker 2: out there that had to have been a huge tentacle.
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  Speaker 2: He was on one of those aircraft carriers. Real interesting
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  Speaker 2: when he said he could see it at the side.
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  Speaker 2: So it's little stuff like that that catches my attention.
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  Speaker 2: And I know you've got some actual ones you want
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  Speaker 2: to go over. And there's one I'll mention here in
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  Speaker 2: a minute, which is the K-MOS. And that may be
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  Speaker 2: the lake monster that honestly has fascinated me the most.
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  Speaker 2: Or we just talk about it now if you want.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can talk about it now if you want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you also gave me the lake van
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  Speaker 1: monster as well. Do you remember that one? That was
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  Speaker 1: a remote viewing target. So I just wanted to mention that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, gosh, okay, I kind of forgot that one.
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  Speaker 1: I did, too. That one, where is that? It has
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  Speaker 1: over a thousand eyewitnesses, and it looks like a plesiosaur.
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  Speaker 1: And they have that one picture. It looks like an
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  Speaker 1: eye coming out of the water, like an eyeball or something.
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  Speaker 1: We can show it here in just a minute. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was, where.
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  Speaker 2: Is that at?
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  Speaker 1: Lake Van Monster. It was photographed in 1997. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what state that's in or what country. It
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  Speaker 1: might not even be in America, but let's see. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I ever put it in there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Van Lake monster. Okay. Yeah. Oh, okay. Wow. Good
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  Speaker 2: call on that. Okay. You got, you got a picture
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  Speaker 2: of it, don't you?
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  Speaker 1: I do. Let me see if I can pull it
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  Speaker 1: up on this one.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't, I do too. Okay, good call. That
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  Speaker 2: actually takes us right into what I was wanting to
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  Speaker 2: talk about. That's incredible synchronicity. Very well done, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: That's incredible synchronicity. Because actually, well, I can pull up
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  Speaker 2: a picture of that real quick. Yeah, I got it
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  Speaker 2: right here.
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  Speaker 1: Here, I probably have the same picture as you do. Here,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and pull them up right now.
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  Speaker 2: The one that looks like a serpent? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I think so. Okay, let's go right here. This is
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  Speaker 1: just from, this was our thumbnail, in case you guys
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  Speaker 1: want to check out the show right here. And here
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  Speaker 1: we go. This is actually the location of it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's not in America. That's got to be like, what,
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  Speaker 1: in Russia or somewhere? Anatolian something. Yeah, that's not, that's
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  Speaker 1: definitely not in America. Okay, that ain't American. okay and
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  Speaker 1: here's this that's kind of kind of like a plesiosaur
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  Speaker 1: i guess or something look how big it's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be really big good grief that's a great white shirt
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  Speaker 1: there it is the actual footage that's the picture right
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  Speaker 1: there uh that everybody everybody talks about do you have
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  Speaker 1: a better picture barry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got one I can pop up here.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's pretty much all I have right there.
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  Speaker 2: And it's just, it's simply, especially I think for reference,
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  Speaker 2: would be cool, you know? Okay. And that is one
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  Speaker 2: that we're going, but it's what it was always described
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  Speaker 2: that I heard, and it takes into exactly what I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about plants uncanny that you bring this up. Um,
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  Speaker 2: all right, here it comes. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Let me take this one down. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We have a whole bunch of these to look into today.
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  Speaker 2: This is the one I always used to see right here. Okay. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm going to tell you that. So there's, there's
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  Speaker 2: a couple of things concerning Lake van. Like, um, if
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  Speaker 2: I was taught, I just was recently talking about this
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  Speaker 2: Urantia book. All right. And somebody had brought up that
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  Speaker 2: they thought Van was such and such when it came
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  Speaker 2: to Inky and all that. But if you actually read this, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this says that Van was part of what's called the
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  Speaker 2: Prince's Staff, the Planetary Prince, Caligastia. And this is way
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  Speaker 2: before Adam and Eve and all that. And they were
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  Speaker 2: a group of beings that came here that were mostly non-corporeal. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And some of them of his staff was like, some
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  Speaker 2: of them were partially corporeal. Then they started like breeding
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  Speaker 2: with earth spirits, like what we call earth nature spirits,
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  Speaker 2: because Urantia really means earth. Okay. And then also with
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  Speaker 2: the human population, those that could be more, become more physical.
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  Speaker 2: And that results in like different species, like what they
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  Speaker 2: call midwears, primary midwears and secondary midwears. Primary midwears are
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  Speaker 2: non-corporeal for the most part. you know, of that different
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  Speaker 2: containers of consciousness. But however, the secondary midwayers are partial
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  Speaker 2: and they can become totally material at some point. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And they're known what we would more call jinn, those
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  Speaker 2: beings that are like jinn, these secondary midwayers. Anyway, supposedly
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  Speaker 2: when Van, who was part of this original staff, he
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  Speaker 2: went to Lake Van. He led people up there that
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  Speaker 2: had his bloodline and all that, his genetic plasma, and
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  Speaker 2: he led them up there. So that's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: an active spiritual place. That's why, that's why I kind
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  Speaker 2: of focused on that. And then the second reason, oh gosh,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is way longer than I should be talking. Um,
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  Speaker 2: the leg van monster here. Okay. When I was, um,
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  Speaker 2: in Washington, I admit, I think it was, it was
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  Speaker 2: the first year I was there. I talked to this
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  Speaker 2: gentleman that, um, second year, sorry, that, uh, Dan was named.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of Dans up there. But he had said
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  Speaker 2: that he had worked around the Olympic Peninsula. Okay? And
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  Speaker 2: that there were these canneries in the back that had
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  Speaker 2: these big holes. The nets back there, like there's some
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  Speaker 2: nets that were discarding that had these huge holes in them.
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  Speaker 2: And what these holes were coming from for these things
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  Speaker 2: that were called, they called them K-MOS. Okay? And the
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  Speaker 2: K-MOS were these huge eels that would follow the salmon
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  Speaker 2: on the salmon run. They follow the salmon supposedly, and
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  Speaker 2: they would get in those nets. They, they chewed through
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  Speaker 2: those nets like they're nothing. And they get in there
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  Speaker 2: and get the salmon, but they were like, not able
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  Speaker 2: ever to ever catch one. Okay. But so he, so
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  Speaker 2: he's any, I remember he said, he said, look up
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  Speaker 2: the nets behind the nets behind that place. And sometimes
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  Speaker 2: how some have those holes. So I found some pictures
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  Speaker 2: of that. And it is huge holes. Things choose to,
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  Speaker 2: and they're these giant eels. And when this gets, you know,
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  Speaker 2: actually brought even further, the people that have seen them
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  Speaker 2: say that actually if you see one, their head and
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  Speaker 2: everything looks somewhat like a horse coming out of the water.
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  Speaker 2: So that takes us into that type thing. And you
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  Speaker 2: think of how Kukla Khan was described as being, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for a long time, I thought it was something like
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  Speaker 2: a K-Moss that was in Loch Ness. But then you
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  Speaker 2: got Tommy Wade who said it was the Greenland... shark.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty interesting deal he did on that. He was out
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  Speaker 2: there fishing, doing his thing or whatever, but he thought
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  Speaker 2: it was a Greenland shark that was in Loch Ness.
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  Speaker 2: You know, those River Monster shows are always pretty cool. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: but this whole K-Moss thing comes down to this, and
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  Speaker 2: this is somebody that was speaking. He said he talked
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  Speaker 2: to certain tribes around there, and they all, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: knew about it. It was quite interesting. It caught my
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  Speaker 2: attention by all means. And I think that this is
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  Speaker 2: something that's not just, so that means it could be
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  Speaker 2: potentially freshwater too, right? Yes, absolutely. So, I mean, it's,
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  Speaker 2: and something like that following the salmon, there's a long,
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  Speaker 2: long trail where these things probably would be really worth,
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  Speaker 2: worth noting because it's not commonly talked about, I don't think,
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  Speaker 2: but it takes us very much into that serpentine thing.
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  Speaker 2: And also that area of Lake Dan and all that
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  Speaker 2: type of stuff. So that's, that's, that's, great you tied
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  Speaker 2: that together. I'll stop sharing it, so I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: take it all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, heck yeah. Well, as I'm looking through all the
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  Speaker 1: pictures of all of these encounter, eyewitness encounters throughout the centuries,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to go back to, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say the 1800s, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these sightings have been in recent decades here in the
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  Speaker 1: United States and in Canada, but a lot of them
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  Speaker 1: sound very similar, and they sound like To me, they
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  Speaker 1: sound like a dragon, like a worm-type dragon. I think
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  Speaker 1: you spell it W-Y-R-M.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: But that's a serpentine body with the head of a dragon.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of these not only have the head of
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  Speaker 1: a dragon, like something kind of like this. You know,
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  Speaker 1: these are just some AI. I was having fun with
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  Speaker 1: AI today. Okay. Trying to get an idea of kind
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  Speaker 1: of what some of these things might look like.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting how they all look serpentine-like, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, exactly. Well, they look like dragons, but some
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  Speaker 1: of these reports we're going to go over today, they
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  Speaker 1: actually have the head of a sheep. Okay, which I
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  Speaker 1: found that really odd. A sheep, a horse is another one.
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  Speaker 1: Like you just said, the Van Wert monster or the
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  Speaker 1: whatever that other one you're talking about was a sheep,
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  Speaker 1: a horse or a dragon. Isn't that wild? They had
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  Speaker 1: the head of a horse. Here's another one. Some of
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  Speaker 1: them were up to 100 feet long.
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  Speaker 2: When I read more about it, it turned out people
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  Speaker 2: were saying a horse, but it was more the shape
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  Speaker 2: than it was an actual physical horse head. You know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean? It was just being compared to that
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Which looks like that too. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Some of these dragons. Yeah, very true. That one right
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  Speaker 2: there is interesting. That one is interesting. Yeah, these drawings
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  Speaker 2: are cool. Okay, so just real quick, you know, something
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  Speaker 2: that I took more interest in, especially with this, is
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  Speaker 2: that when I'm, I've always been interested in the Congo.
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  Speaker 2: I know you've got a couple of reports there. When
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  Speaker 2: you start looking into that, you get a lot more
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  Speaker 2: reports than just Ogopogo or whichever one it is. Macumbe Tempe,
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  Speaker 2: I think it is down there. But when you start
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  Speaker 2: listening to what they say about even that one, And
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  Speaker 2: some of the other ones, they say that these things
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  Speaker 2: are not plesiosauruses and they're not serpents. They say they're
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  Speaker 2: basically like brontosaurus or diplocladus. There's a bigger brontosaurus that
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  Speaker 2: they had gotten in the fossil record now. And it's like,
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  Speaker 2: it might be diplo, I can't remember the name. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: point being, they're saying that they're like that, but they
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  Speaker 2: just stay in the water. And you can see that
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  Speaker 2: they have these, these necks. You can always see them
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  Speaker 2: by their neck, whatever they eat, if it's off the
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  Speaker 2: trees or whatever, but their necks are often, cause you know,
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  Speaker 2: I believe Brontosaurus was a vegetarian, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 1: I believe so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So when their necks are out and they're eating
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  Speaker 2: off the shrubs or whatever, that's when they're seeing the most,
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  Speaker 2: but it's reported quite a bit, but they're all supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be more Brontosaurus. We started looking in the Congo though,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you start hearing also more about these other
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  Speaker 2: types of, what appear to be prehistoric creatures that are
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  Speaker 2: moving around there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that's, that's always been the question about the
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  Speaker 1: Loch Ness monster. Like, is this an, is this a
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  Speaker 1: dinosaur or is it something, I mean, some people were
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  Speaker 1: speculating that maybe there was a portal. This thing was
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  Speaker 1: coming in and out of under the water. And, and,
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  Speaker 1: and with a lot of these reports, people were suggesting
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  Speaker 1: within some of these eyewitnesses saying, well, they think that
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  Speaker 1: these things live in caves under the lakes as well.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: There's a whole lot that could be said about all
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  Speaker 1: these things. And they're all a little bit different. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that they have, there's some things that are
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  Speaker 1: common amongst all of these. And I wanted to kind
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  Speaker 1: of connect the dots today on these. Now this is, okay,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: so we're going to go over the Ogopogo. And by
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the way, Reverend Wolf VIP, you know a lot about dragons.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I've been reading your comments. Thank you so much for
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: all these wonderful comments you're putting up today. I appreciate
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that very much. Okay, so let's see. This is the Ogopogo.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Now, this is, of course, it's not a real picture
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: of one, not by any means. But Ogopogo has been
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: reported in British Columbia. Now, British Columbia is full of
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: high strangeness. My good friend Dave Scott lives there. He's
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the head of the high strangeness in British Columbia. He's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the strangest thing. I'm just kidding. I love me some Dave.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: But they have the Okanagan Lake. This thing has been
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: seen in Okanagan Lake for over a century, and the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Silex people knew it as Nahaaik. I know I can't
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: pronounce it all. But it's a dangerous lake spirit, they said,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and modern eyewitnesses described it as a serpentine creature about
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: 15 to 50 feet long with dark green fur. skin
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and multiple humps it remains one of the most actively
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: cited late cryptids in the world and it was actually
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: at the top of the list when i was like
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: trying to do some research on these things um it's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: so i guess the people knew it as i can't
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: pronounce these names y'all but um but they said that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it was there before the european settlers came of course
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: so it's like really old that would indicate that either
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: it's just got a longevity to it or these are
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: its offsprings And there's a mating population out there. It
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: would have to be.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: What is the name again?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It's called the Ogopogo.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Ogopogo.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: This is Ogopogo. Now, travelers crossing the lake traditionally would
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: bring a small animal to sacrifice. Dropping it overboard is
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: an offering to ensure safe passage because they were scared
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of this thing. Can you imagine? So, I mean, this
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: is not a fairy tale. This is a flesh and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: bone creature that people would actually bring a small animal
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to put in the water to sacrifice to ensure their
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: safe passage through there. And they say that they understood
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it is very dangerous, capable of creating sudden storms and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: pulling canoes under the water. The sacrificial practice was maintained
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: consistently enough for European settlers to to note it in
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: their 19th century records. So basically in the 1800s, they
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: were putting this in their diaries and stuff and talking
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: about it in their history books. So sightings began accumulating
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: around the mid-1800s with settlers in the region, like European settlers.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And early reports describe a serpentine creature with multiple humps
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: breaking the surface of the 84-mile-long Okanagan Lake In 1926,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: there was a businessman who had a large group of
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: picnickers out there. They were picnicking by the lake on
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the Okanagan mission. They saw the creature for several minutes.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And actually, that sighting was in a newspaper. And the
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: name Ogopogo was taken from a 1924 British music hall
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: song about a fictional banjo playing creature. And it stuck.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: with them despite having no connection to the Silex tradition.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: And in the 1950s, the creature was, it started appearing
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: in tourism brochures. And so the province of British Columbia
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: placed it under unofficial protection. So like, you can't touch
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: this beast in our water. It's making us too much
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: money at this point. You know, I actually really do
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: appreciate it when the locals, the local governments embrace their cryptids.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I know of several, like I'm actually going to be
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: going down to the Molina Bigfoot festival and their entire
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: city government down there. And they, they, they're the ones
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: that are put on this festival every year and they
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: love their Bigfoots down there. Um, so that's, uh, so that's,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: what's going on in BC. And, uh, there's, there's actually
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: a film of this one.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: There's actually film and I could pull it up. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: don't want to get copyrights and stuff on that. So there's, um,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: In 1968, Art Folden filmed roughly a minute of footage
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: showing a large wake and a dark object moving through
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the calm water. And so it's been analyzed by multiple researchers,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: never conclusively explained. But in 1989, businessman Ken Chaplin filmed
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a 20-foot-long dark object swimming near Rattlesnake Island right there
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in the lake. And in 2011, an iPhone video was
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: taken by two eyewitnesses. it captured two dark shapes moving
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: in parallel beneath the surface. And of course, listen, here's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: my take on this too, is like, I grew up
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: on a lake. I've lived on lakes my entire life almost.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And there's things like alligator gar and some people see
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like giant salamanders, maybe, I don't know. There's different fish.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: There's big snakes. You know, the Cherokee talked about the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: big snakes, giant snakes here in, the Southeastern part of
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the United States. So it could be, it could be anything. Okay. But,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: but there, there have been some interesting.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Some ills.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: And well, the lake at some, guess how deep this
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: lake goes, Barry. It's super deep. 750 feet deep.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: That's massive.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That's like an ocean. And it's glacially carved. connected to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a chain of other long, narrow lakes that were part
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of the largest Pleistocene system. And so they say that scientifically,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: this lake could support a giant animal like this, they say.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And of course, some people think that it could be
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: a sturgeon. Sturgeon's another option.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Those sturgeons get pretty big. They get pretty big.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: They do. Well, you remember when you and I were,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: we went to go eat lunch. We were at that conference,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the Journey to Truth conference. We went to eat lunch
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: on the Mississippi River, Barry. Remember all those logs that
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: were floating by?
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: They were in that river. Those looked, those were huge.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: That could be easily mistaken for some kind of an animal.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I was kind of fascinated by how fast
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that river was flowing by. It was scary. I would
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: never try to traverse that. You try to jump in
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and swim that. You really got your work cut in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: for you. So that was tough because I'd never been
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to the Mississippi before. So that was very interesting to me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And yeah, a lot of debris. And I'd always heard
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: rumors about the sinkholes of the tubes that got dumped
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: off some of those steamboats. You know what I mean?
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: That caused people to swim and get stuck down there.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I never knew what that was. I figured that was
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: more truth than urban legend, you know? Oh yeah.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I just, I was, I was kind of taken
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: aback by how fast that river was going to, and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: there were these huge, I mean, when we, when I
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: say logs, I mean like whole trees, like giant trees.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: If you were to fall into that river, I would
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: never swim in it on my own accord.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: But, but it would, the undertow and everything, like it
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: was just swirling and these huge logs were flying by
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and like, It was crazy. Absolutely crazy. I've never seen
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: anything like it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't even a stormy day or anything like that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: The few days before that, it was just common, common debris.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: I know. I was like, don't get near that water.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Stand back, everybody. What in the heck? And, uh, and
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I'm a water girl. Okay. Like I love going swimming
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: and I've been swimming in lakes and rivers since I'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: not going to tell you when I was born, but
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: it was a long time ago. And, uh, And so
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I can appreciate it. But these are some, this is
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that picture I just showed. They're thinking this could be it,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: but that also could be a log or something. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: don't know. That's some of the evidence right there.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: That's supposed to be Ogopogo?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be. Oh, definitely.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I totally see it. Totally.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: There it is. There it is again right there. I mean,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that's actually kind of cool because look at the weight
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that it's leaving behind. And listen, there are 100%, I
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: believe it. I know for sure there are lake monsters
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: out there, things that you can't explain. Mike Smith from
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: up in Kentucky came on the show about a month ago,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and he told us about he was driving his pontoon
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: boat through Lake Berkeley, up at the land between the lakes.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I think it was Lake Berkeley, but it was up
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: there at the land between the lakes. One of the lakes,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and he said that his engine, like his rudder, it's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: cut into something. He hit something, and all this blubber
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: came up. Like he had skimmed over the top of
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: some kind of gigantic animal and all this fat came
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: up out of the water. Like chunks and stuff.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Where was this at?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: In Kentucky. At the land between the lakes. In one
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of those lakes. At the lands between. Yeah. So, yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: There's just a lot. There's a lot going on under
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the water. And you cannot see under the water. Especially
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: at the land between the lakes. So be careful where
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: you're jumping, y'all. don't jump in don't never dive in
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: head first any of these lakes please okay well let's
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: let's look into this next one now this is an
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: older one i wanted to get into and this is
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: called the gloucester sea serpent now this is going to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: be a sea serpent because this is actually in um
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: i think this is on the let's see which coast
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is this on massachusetts okay and uh and so let
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: me share my screen we're gonna pull this one up
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: because there's some drawings of this i find rather fascinating
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: as a matter of fact. So let's get this one.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Here is, look at the rings on its neck too. 1817.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: When I say this is old, look how big it
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: is compared to those boats. That is wild. That's supposed
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: to have been gigantic compared to those boats right there.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But in August of 1817, a massive sea serpent was
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: observed repeatedly in the Glauchess Harbor in Massachusetts over several weeks.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Hundreds of witnesses, including fishermen, sailors, prominent citizens. And that
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: means they weren't totally crazy, I'm assuming. I want to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: let you know. They described a dark serpentine creature 60
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to 100 feet long. moving through the water in a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: series of vertical humps. Let's see. So the Linnaean Society
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: of New England conducted a formal investigation. They collected sworn
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: depositions from dozens of eyewitnesses, and it's one of the
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: best documented sea serpent flaps in history.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Flap?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: That word keeps coming up. We just had a Bigfoot
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: flap in Ohio yesterday. But they've had UFO flaps in
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the 1950s over the White House and all that kind
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: of stuff. So during two summers, the first began in
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: August of 1817. The harbor at Gloucester produced this, whatever
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: this is, I don't know. It looks like a dragon. Listen,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to say it looks like a dragon
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to me. But they say that merchant captains, judges, customs officers,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and ordinary townspeople reported it daily. from multiple vantage points simultaneously,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and this large creature moved through the protected waters off
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the eastern point and 10-pound island. They described it as
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: an animal between 40 to 80 feet long with a
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: horse-like head, Barry, and it carried several feet above the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: water in a line of dorsal humps and bunches along
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: its back, they said, or bunches along the back, capable
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: of sudden bursts of speed and abrupt movements vertical undulations. Okay,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: so they said the sheer weight of the testimony pushed
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: this case beyond the waterfront rumor. And of course, they
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: went out and they investigated this thing, whatever that society was. Oh,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: there was a Bigelow involved with this. I wonder if
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: this is a Bigelow that's connected to Bigelow Aerospace today.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: It said that they formed a committee and dispatched Judge
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: John Davis' physician, Jacob Bigelow, and naturalist Francis Callie Gray
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: to collect these sworn depositions. They had over 200 affidavits gathered,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: each given under oath before a justice of the peace,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: from eyewitnesses and men whose professional credibility was on the line.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And that's important. And the Society eventually published its findings
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in a formal report in 1817, And it took a
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: strange turn when a deformed snake was killed nearby in
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a field. And they claimed that was it. It was
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: a snake. Even though it's not 100 feet long or
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: however big they said this was. It turned out to
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: be a common black snake with spinal damage. But they
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: had brought it up there. Kind of like with some
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: of these. What was that? The Beast of Javudon.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Remember that? Out of France. The king and his huntsmen
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: brought up a... domesticated dog or a wolf. And they're like, oh,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: that's it. And so they were just like case closed. Uh,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: but then people kept dying after that. So, uh, but anyways,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it was a black, a black snake with spinal damage. And, uh,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and so, yeah, they made sure that all of their
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: eyewitnesses were sober, Barry. How important is that in an investigation?
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I think that's funny. Uh, but anyways, uh, yeah, they
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: said that the, the sightings continued, uh, along the New
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: England coast, uh, throughout the 19th century. And it happened
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: again the next summer, of course, as well. It came back.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: So that's the case of this. I find that, I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: know we're just showing this one drawing right here. It
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: looks very dragon-like to me. And this is also how
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it's described. That looks more cartoonish and fun right there.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: But yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: There's just different renderings of this all together. I mean,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: it could be a giant eel.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: See, Zach, I can't get off how that keeps that
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: whole thing coming up again. The whole, a.k.a. K-Moss type thing.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: K-Moss, yes.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I find that fascinating, you know, and even to the
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: point there's, you know, different types of eels as far
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: as they're shaped, I do believe. And it's a, I
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: don't know, it's real interesting to me.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I think it's fascinating. Let me see. Oh, Injeneb,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for that super sticker. Great subject.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed, I'm enjoying this. Thank you. I'm enjoying this too.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: And we don't talk about sea servants and lake monsters enough,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I guess. It's not, it's not my specialty.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I've never really gone out and hunted for them. I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: just try to stay away from them when I jump
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: in the lake.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: These things scare me.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. I think it brings
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: up genetic things because you're always in the lakes. You
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It makes me very uncomfortable for me.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You had a bad reaction to the Kappa. Wasn't it
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the Kappa?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Oh God, it was horrible. Yes.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Cause that was back when I was going to, I
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: was going to the lake out in Alabama all the time.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't even want to get
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: in the water after that. It is what it is.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Cause you want to be like kind of just, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: sticking your head in the sand to some of this
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: stuff because we have to deal with this in real
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: life and you're at places where you're there for recreational
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: purposes and you're there to have fun. You got that
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you're with your family. It's like, man, I'm, I'm too
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: aware of the dangers around me at times. You know
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: what I mean? I'm too aware. I feel like for
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: my own good. And so, but at least I can
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: keep an eye out. And if anybody goes under, we
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: know the Kappa got them. Okay. Or something.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the interesting thing is that I, throughout time,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I've seen this documentary. And so while I'm sure somebody
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: probably in your chat has seen it too. It's, it's
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this guy debunking the Loch Ness monster. And it's probably
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: like an hour long. And this guy pretty much crucifies
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: about every, every, all of it. You know what I mean?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And it's, rather convincing, to be honest, just discrediting it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: And he's from there or whatever. And then they say
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: at the end, so at the end of it, they're like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: so basically the entire Loch Ness Monster thing is an
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: untrue hoax. And then he was like, no, I can't
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: say that because something happened. I saw something once. You
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? It's something he can really explain.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: At the very end of it, it was so duplicitous.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, some of that starts taking us
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: into even once. And I wonder what are these things
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: when we start dealing, you know, Jessica, we're so quick
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to talk about portals and the portals right now, something
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: that I noticed due to skin Walker ranch and all and,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: and the surrounding areas, people are now starting to focus
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: on airborne portals. I guess that's the right word to say,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: but the ones that are in the atmosphere are higher up. Okay. Okay.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: And we've got the ones here on the surface, you know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: like in the forest and in these places that like
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: you think are probably where they're surrounding testing zones. But
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the ones that would happen underwater, especially deep volume water
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: is not really discussed and how much the oceans are
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: unknown and these things that can be quote unquote, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: don't know what better to call them. I do in
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: my videos, aquatic portals, probably. you know, but I think
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: even to down to what some of those submarines, they're
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: trying to adapt those things to using if they don't already,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: but as portals. But I think when it comes to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: some of these beings that are able to come through,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: just like we see on the land, you're going to
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: have the same thing in the water. Some of these
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: beings see a chance to come through. They come through
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: for a little bit, get their grub on, go back.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, um, Sometimes we can even compare that
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: to what you and I have discussed when you were
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: remote viewing the plasma balls. We started talking about the
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: crop circles and other portals like that. And what John
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Vovinko had said, his team had seen that on some
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: of these portals on the other side, you've got hundreds
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: of entities trying to squeeze through all at once. And
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: those that are able to get through emerge in collective
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: conscious level that's orb-like in this dimension. Something about the
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: transition from over there to here. There's some type of
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: physics that's like reverse or whatever. But they come out
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: in collective conscious level. Or, excuse me, form. And, you know,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: that's interesting because you always laugh because I said that's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: like just the way it was described kind of to me,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: it made me think of like you and me both
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: try to stick our head in a ketchup bottle. It's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: going to be real difficult, man. So anyway, but I mean,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: when you kind of think of that as to where
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: this may actually apply to some of these sea serpents
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and sea cryptids, and we talk about these dimensional things
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that and things that are just aware
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of these portals and just able to use them naturally,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: a natural gift, that's something different. You know, That pertains
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: even to certain types of Sasquatch and this whole thing
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: and maybe what system they're using to control that. I
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: was recently hearing something they were calling it a fence.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: A fence to contain all portals. to try to manipulate
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: all portals through a fence, the type of frequency, a
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: frequency fence is what it was called. You know, it's interesting.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: We start hearing, try to search around and see what
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: some of those plasma physics people are saying. Some of
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: it is boring. I can't understand it all, but I
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: try to check some of it out because that's where
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the real, real stuff is going on with those people,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Transparency there, transparency a little bit because people don't.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Really read it, Oh, no, that's great. And the fact
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: that portals are so, so common, like so talked about
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: now and everybody's talking about portals. And that's another thing.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: When I first started talking about, you know, my research
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: and my team's research and stuff. And I remember I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: had all these people wanting me to come on their
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: shows and talk about portals. I don't think a lot
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: of people were talking about them back then and stuff.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: And maybe they weren't. I just wasn't catching it. And so,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: but now everybody talks about it. it's kind of like
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: some of us had to take the lead on that
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: and start talking about portals, our experiences with them. And, uh,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and now everybody's talking about, thank goodness, I guess, I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: guess that's a good thing. Um, even though it can
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: be dark, a dark topic as well. Uh, but, uh,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's wild how common a lot of this
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: stuff that we used to get laughed at all the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: time is now.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: You know, when Dr. Rudy Shields contacted me, something he specifically, he,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: there were certain experiences that he wanted to talk about
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: and not being a, like I said, not being a contactee,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: just being a scientist and being interested in that way.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: It was very honored, you know, but he wanted to
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: know about a couple of particular experiences I had had.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: One that was on board this craft that had, I
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: don't know what the room was. It was, it seemed
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: to me like it was, you know, it was very unstable,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: but it was actually had these, these what looked like
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: minor kind of black hole distortions open up and closing
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: all over the place in this room. And it made
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: me very sick to be in there. There's like a
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: black beam in the middle. I was kind of holding
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: the black beam because it was stable. Do you know
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? But these things are opening and closing.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: And in his, in his, when we got to talking,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: you know, it's something he threw that illuminated me a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: little bit more. Cause sometimes I wonder like, why in
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the hell did I have to experience that? Even though
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: it wasn't negative, it's odd. So when you're physically going
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: through that, you know, he said, you were on board
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: a craft that was able to, generate or contain Makos,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: as he called them, magnetospheric internally collecting objects, a.k.a. black holes, wormholes, portals,
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: and choose the one for the most of coherency. You
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? But it was actually generating it
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and containing it. And he was just fascinated by that.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: And I never thought of it quite like that. I
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: didn't know what this room was. It felt like it
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: was almost a control type of room. but we start
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: dealing with technologies that can really control these portals or
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: open them or Makos and utilize them. When you get
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: to those type four civilizations, they're using not just the
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: fabric of space as their power source, but the fabric
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of the Mako itself, the Mako itself as a power source.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: And we start taking that all the way into the
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Akashic records, into brain science, brain waves, all this stuff
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: you and I have talked about on a lot of
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: these shows. You know, but it all starts kind of
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: coming together with just this right here. You know what
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I'm saying?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, it does. Well, when we get into the conversation
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: about these potential dinosaurs that are showing up, you know,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: we would consider to be dinosaurs or like swimming reptiles
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and whatever. We got the flying reptiles with the pterosaurs
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: and the pterodactyls that people are seeing these days. I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: might have seen one myself. And the raptors, the velociraptors
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: like we had in Georgia, Georgia raptor. And then these
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: these lake monsters, these sea serpents and stuff like, well,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: could they could they just have always been here and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: they've been here forever? Or are they coming through portals?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: You know, like are they is there a connection between
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: like the dimensions overlapping and they're they're coming through space
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: and time to like into our into our reality right now?
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, yes, because our consciousness is changing. That's
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: what's happening right now. And I keep saying it's a
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: conscious event. So some of that is that definitely we're
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: able to see that other frequency that's right here with us,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: that other earth. It's bleeding through more and more. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: the common people, I don't want to say that word, but.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: You just worried some of the commoners. The commoners are
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: starting to see it now.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: The normies. The normies.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: That's it. The normies. The commoners. That's not very good either.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: That sounds like the Bates Motel. Bates Motel. The normies. Anyway.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: But that stuff right there. So not just as I
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: think that's triggering a natural shift and change that's happening
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: in the earth anyway, but it's us. consciously doing it.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: There's all sorts of invisible factions and visible ones that
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: are trying to stop that from happening right now. But
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: the fact so many more people are into cryptids, so
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: many people are into Sasquatch, all these things, but also
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: at the same time, like you just mentioned, all these
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: experiences are ramping up. You know what I mean? The
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: sightings of Bigfoot ramping up. All these things increasing. UFO sightings.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Now with the new disclosure thing, it's real bad. Plus
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you've got drones all sorts of fake stuff neural programming
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: i mean it's out of control you know what i
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's it's um it's we're at that point
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: right now and it's it's so fascinating to me i
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: was you know i i don't know what i'm gonna
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: talk about this sunday but i keep thinking about maybe
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: i was listening to these guys unfortunately i still listen
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: to npr don't throw me any onions at me but
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: i still listen to npr i was listening to this
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: whole thing these gentlemen that were experts talking about really
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: the aspect of super intelligence and what it actually is,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: not just AI, but super intelligence. They were making a
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: definite difference as they described super intelligence as these devices,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: the system that can do everything better than people. Oh, God.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Better than the best person at it, at every individual thing, better.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Even people that are on the genius level. And they
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: were saying that, and one guy was saying, that's when
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: it's probably going to be the end of our civilization.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: And they were kind of going back and forth before
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: the other guy saying, not exactly. And it was, it
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: was bizarre. You know what I mean? But nonetheless, very,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: very realistic. And it takes like what we think of
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: as terminator type of stuff and not just makes it real,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: but it's even going a more different direction than that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: If they become actually somebody that they're saying how no
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: one's actually created one yet, but you know, there was
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: one of the files they just released. that they're saying
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: that they're taking it for this release comp community thing
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: they're doing. It's one of those old, old alien interviews
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: where one of those things is standing there and it's
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: jacked up. And they're saying, talk now! And they're jacking
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: it up, grabbing his mouth and stuff. And they're saying
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: that one is real. And it's like you can only
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: see part of it. And they say there's a reason
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: for it with this thing going like that. And they're
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: saying it was a respirator it was on. It was,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I'd seen it a million times, but I never thought
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: it was really real because the way it looks and
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: they're saying it was, but you know, that's the one
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: where the individual was telling, he was saying, telling them too,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: before it got real jacked up, it's saying super intelligence.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: It could destroy y'all. I could destroy it. Us. Oh, well, yeah,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: you probably see it, but it's just really interesting when, sorry,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: we're supposed to be talking about. Oh my gosh.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: It's all good. No, well, you know, we're kind of
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: connecting some dots and stuff. It's all our, our conversations
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: always go a little lift occasionally. Okay. But yeah, so,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: so this one right here.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So we got into the conversation about the portals. Like,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: could this be, could these things be coming through portals?
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Now this was from the 1800s. This was a long
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: time ago.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: And, and so it's over 200 years ago when this
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: thing was being seen. So, But that is the Gloucester.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I got corrected. I think Reverend Wolf said that it's
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: actually pronounced Gloucester, I think. So it's not pronounced how
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: it's spelled, I guess. I don't know. Maybe I'm not
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: And that's not the Globster, the thing that was found
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: on the beach, right? No, different. The Globster, that looks
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: like a whale of some type, right? Yeah. Blubber. Blubber, yeah.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: It could have been blubber, something like that. We did
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: go over that one. Did you give me that as
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: a remote viewing target, or did we just talk about it?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that one. I don't think we did.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I know we talked about it. It was one or
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: the other. It was covered at some point. Yeah. This one,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I know it's one of the ones I didn't put
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: much stock in.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I have, let's go to the next one. Okay.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Because this is more recent. This is Chessie. Okay. If
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: you guys, do you know who Chessie is? Sounds like Jesse.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Well, this is, this is from.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: The Chesapeake Bay area. Of course, they put that picture of... Look,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: they're using this picture again for Chessie, but let's see.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: It's going to be another snake-like... That looks like the
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Loch Ness Monster. It's going to be another snake-like... animal.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: It almost kind of looks more like, what is that,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: a plesiosaur or whatever they say the Loch Ness Monster is.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: But the, I think that the, I don't know, I'm
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: not positive about this one, but it's a serpentine creature.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Reported for half a century, it was caught on video
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: in 1982. Now, Chessie is in the Chesapeake Bay. And
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: let's see. So witnesses describe a dark 25 to 40
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: foot snake-like animal that moves with vertical indolations and shows
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: no visible fins. The most famous evidence is a 1982
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: home video shot by Robert Frew near Kent Island, Maryland.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: which a panel, including the Smithsonian scientists, okay, of course,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: it's legit if the Smithsonian shows up, but they reviewed
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: it and could neither identify nor dismiss it. Reports concentrate
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: sharply on the summer boating months. Okay, and this one,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: it looks more like something that you'd think that the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Loch Ness Monster would look like. Here's this one, Chessie.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: There's different versions of this. That's a good one right there, actually.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: That one's got little fins in the front, little arms.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: The Chesapeake Bay is the largest estuary in the United States.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: It stretches about 200 miles from the mouth of the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Susquehanna River in Maryland to the Atlantic Ocean off of Virginia.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And it's fed by more than 150 rivers and creeks
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: across 64,000 square miles of watershed. And it is shallow
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: for its size. It only goes about 21 feet deep deep.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Of course, that last lake we were talking about, 750
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: feet deep. So that is really, really shallow, actually. But
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: it's also enormous. It's biologically rich. It's heavily trafficked into
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the water. People have, or at least for a half
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: a century, they've reported long, dark, serpentine animal that doesn't
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: match anything in the bay. Bay's known for fish and
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: marine life. They call it Chessie because it kind of
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: is like Nessie out of the Loch Ness over in Scotland.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: So they describe it as moving through vertical undulations, humping
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: up and down, humping. They say humping up and down
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: rather than side to side. It's almost no one reports
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: seeing fins, no flippers, no limbs. So this right here
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: has got some flippers in the front, but they say
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: that's not how it's ever described. And they kind of,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Cluster all the sightings around the summer months, the spring months,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: whenever it's warm out there. And it's usually around the
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Bay's main stem and the Tidal River mouths. Mostly around
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: the Maryland Eastern Shore, the Potomac, and near Bay Bridge.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: And they go back to the mid-1900s with the sightings.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: And they pretty much had the biggest wave of sightings
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: during the 1970s. And the single most important piece of
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: evidence came out in 1982 when Robert and Karen Frew
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: were hosting guests at their house overlooking the bay near
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Love Point on Kent Island, Maryland. They used a home
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: video camera to film a long, dark object moving through
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: the water several hundred feet offshore. And they said that
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: it was about a few minutes long worth of a video.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: It shows a submerged serpentine shape surfacing and diving. And, uh,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: there are researchers, Mike Fazell and his Enigma project, uh,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: brought the tape to the Smithsonian institution in 1982. And, uh,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: they reviewed it frame by frame. So, I mean, if
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: there was a chassis or chassis out there, they probably
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: went and took it. If the Smithsonian was involved entertainment
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: purposes only, but they said it was inconclusive. They couldn't
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: figure out what it was. And, um, Yeah, they say
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: that there's an Atlantic sturgeon that lives out there. They
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: thought it could have been that, of course. And they
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: say that those exceed 14 feet. That is gigantic. So
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: that could be what it is, actually. And they said
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: they were abundant in the bay. I don't know if
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: they're all 14 feet, though. They look reptilian, actually. And so, yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: But anyways, I guess sightings happen to this day still
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: out there of this creature. Okay, so. I didn't realize
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: that sturgeon got that huge. That's gigantic.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Kind of seeing eel there yet again, you know,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: but I'm trying to, I tried to, you know, also
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: keep in mind that, you know, in my opinion, when
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: even like, like check out Randall Carlson stuff. And even
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: before the dries period, you would have had, you know, the, these, the, the,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the freezing would have gone all the way down to
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: the bottom of a lot of the deep, huge bodies
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of water. And you would have had certain probably almost,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Cretaceous species that never died out. They were
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: still multiplying down there. And then once that's over, dryness
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: period over and all that, they still, who's to say
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: they're not still, you know, coming up from the depths,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: still down there and certain ones like that. So when
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: it comes to that, I try to take maybe some
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: of the plesiosaur type of sightings in mind with that.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: And it was another one, um, Gosh, I don't want
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: to butcher names, but I think it was called Elastomansaurus.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: It was pliaceosaur-like, but it was quite a bit bigger. So,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: you know, things like that that might still exist, along
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: with these potential different types of eels that may be
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: giant eels that, you know, we don't even know about.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I just find that very fascinating, you know, worthy and
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: good food for thought.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Well, I'm actually, I'm trying to find this video.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I want to find the raw footage of the video
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: of this thing. And I'm having trouble finding it. Let's see.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I've got, I'm watching interviews right now. Okay. Well, we'll
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: just have to, we don't, I'm not going to pull
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: this up because I don't want to pull up the
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: wrong information here.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: So that's, so that's Chessie. All right. Chessie, another serpentine, serpentine,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I say serpentine, type of a late monster sea creature,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: sea serpent. And it sounds like another dragon type. Okay,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: like a worm. Okay, so we're going to stop sharing
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: that one. Let's go to the next one. Let's see
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: what we got next. Tahoe Tessie. Now, Lake Tahoe is
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: losing its water right now. Which is bad news, actually,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: for all of the wildlife in there. And so, let's see.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Let me pull this one up so you guys can see.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Tahoe Tessie. Sounds like Nessie and Chessie. Now we got Tessie. Okay,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: they all look alike. All these renditions of them. Let's see.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Is this Tahoe Tessie? There's Tahoe Tessie. Trying to find
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: a good picture of one. Here we go. Let's just
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: pull this up right here.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: That's Lake Tahoe right there. Okay, so.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been there?
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: No, I have not. I've never been to Lake Tahoe.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I have not. Have you?
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, I can't say I have. Okay.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Uh, so they say that a serpentine Lake dweller is
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: hiding in the frigid depths of Lake Tahoe. Apparently that's
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: a cold Lake and it's a large aquatic creature. Uh,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: it's at the California Nevada border. And, uh, Let's see,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the Washoe people have spoken about this creature inhabiting the
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: lake's deep waters forever, okay, for centuries. And modern sightings
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: describe either a serpentine, like dragon-like looking thing, or a
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: sturgeon-like animal. Okay, so another sturgeon, 10 to 80 feet long,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: like that's a big discrepancy right there. 10 to 80
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: feet long, so anywhere from 10 to 80, that's a
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: big difference. And the cold temperatures make it theoretically capable
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: of supporting a large undiscovered species. That's like the Lake Tahoe.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: There could be, I don't know. I don't know how
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: big Lake Tahoe is. I'm about to look.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. It's 1,000. Oh, here it goes.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: So it sits at an elevation of over 6,200 feet.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: And the body of water is so deep and cold,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: it reaches 1,645 feet deep at night. The maximum. Good grief.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: That's over double. That's double what that other one was. Okay.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: So the lake is said to never give up its dead.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Now Lake Tahoe is actually the same lake that's connected
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: to Lake Pyramid or Pyramid Lake in Nevada. And this
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: is the lake where people will drown in Pyramid Lake
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: and their bodies will end up in Lake Tahoe. The
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: dead bodies surface at Lake Tahoe and vice versa. I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: think it's vice versa, but I know it's like people
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: drown in the Pyramid Lake and they end up in
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe. Or Lake Tahoe, they end up in Pyramid Lake.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: There's some kind of like underwater aquifer system or something
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: that like connects them, I guess. Yeah.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: So, a good mode of travel, huh? Yes. Yeah.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: So whatever's in this lake would be in Lake Pyramid too, potentially.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I guess. It says the water temperature at depth hovers
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: permanently near 39 degrees Fahrenheit. That's cold. That's really cold.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: So it preserves objects for centuries. So, oh, so that
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: means like if something does die down there, it's preserved.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: It's like, I don't want to say mummified, but like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: it doesn't disintegrate or decompose. So let's talk about Tahotessi.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: This is a serpentine creature. It's reported in this lake
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: since before the European settlers came. And this is one
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: of the most ancient, geologically ancient lakes in North America.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: And the darkness at its lower depths exceeds anything that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: sunlight can penetrate. It is so, it's darker than dark
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: down there. So it creates an environment which a large
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: animal could theoretically persist in near complete invisibility, Barry. So
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: if there's going to be a big creature in one
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: of these lakes, it's going to be at Lake Tahoe.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: So the Washoe and the Paiute people who have inhabited
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Lake Tahoe for thousands of years carried oral traditions describing
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: large creatures inhabiting the lake's depths. And the lake has
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: a spiritual significance as well. Early European. Oh, it says
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: that the. Let's see that they have, oh, the waters
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: are like powerful.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's like magical or something like that. But they
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: say that powerful entities protect the water and they demand respect. Okay.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: That's interesting because I was just going to ask you
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: if there were any mermaid sightings there and I, you know, freshwater. Yeah.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Pyramid lake.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: That's what they're known for. Tahoe is one of the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: pyramid there is.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what the Pyramid Lake is known for is
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: a spiteful mermaid and all the water babies. They have
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: water babies out there. Now, those are actually the Paiute.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: This is actually the true history, they say, is like
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: the Paiute used to actually discard newborn babies that were
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: born with birth defects. They would throw them in the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: lake and they would drown. And unfortunately, and so that's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: where the legend of the water babies came from, because
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: it's like those are the Basically, those spirits of those
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: babies are out there pulling people down, taking them underneath
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: the water and drowning people. And there's a spiteful mermaid
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: story as well out there. There are mermaids in the
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: lake and they actually target Caucasian men, they say. And
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: they're like, because they say it's Caucasian men because they
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: say at least every year, at least one man, one
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: person drowns in that lake every year. It's probably more
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: than that. they say, don't even dip your toe in
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: that Lake. Don't get in it. Don't swim in it.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Especially if you're a white dude, don't get in there.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, that's interesting. Cause I, where you were talking, I
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: had asked the thing, if there are any sightings reported in,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: in Lake Tahoe and it said no, but I mean,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: that's not accurate obviously, but I mean, I just, I
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: find that interesting, you know, that, um, And how many
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: of these mermaids, how cold the water are they seen in?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Just interesting food for thought again.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cold, but I'm thinking in terms of somewhat
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: humanoid aspect like us, there's something totally different going on there, biologically.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bunkie.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought too, kind of. But yeah.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: And it says... Spooky says mermaids are tropical, aren't they?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And like, that's what we've always been taught. And that's
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: what we hear about. But like, I've actually covered lots
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: of lake mermaids here in the United States and places
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: that would be cold, like New York. And even in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: North Carolina off the coast and in the, in the mainland,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: like when they come inland through the rivers and stuff,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the river mermaids, it gets, it gets cold in places
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: like that. They're not all tropical.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: So, uh, so they don't all have to be tropical.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Well, well, Where was Splash supposed to be? The movie Splash?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it supposed to be like Cape?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be like Cape, like Cape Canaveral,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Cape somewhere, wasn't it?
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: That's cold water, isn't it?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it would be. I guess it would be. Okay, well.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: So people for all for all of these centuries, they've
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: been reporting that there's long, dark forms moving beneath the surface,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: occasionally breaking the waterline before they go back underwater. They
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: don't make any noise. And modern Tessie reports describe a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: creature between 10 to 80 feet in length, dark green
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: or black color with a serpentine body in a swimming
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: motion that suggests horizontal rather than vertical undulation. And some
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: witnesses describe a rounded seal-like head. Others mention a more
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: pointed snout. So the inconsistency in size and estimates through
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: the decades, they think that there's multiple animals like this
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: out there. So there's not just one because they're described
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: in such different head shapes and stuff. There's at least two.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: There's probably a whole bunch of them out there. But
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: the most notable... cluster of sightings happened between the 1970s
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: and the 1980, and Jacques Cousteau allegedly dove to significant
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: depths in Lake Tahoe during this period and reportedly refused
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: to release his footage, claiming the public was not ready
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: for what he had seen. Really?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Yes. I like Jacques Cousteau. I thought he was cool.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: Channel 8, man. Channel 8 cat. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Could you imagine? I mean, it could, I'd like to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: see that footage personally. Uh, but it said that, that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: no verified footage or statement from Cousteau has ever been substantiated.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And so of course it makes this into mythology basically,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: if there's no proof and there's not a whole lot
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: of pictures of this thing or anything. Uh, and, uh,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: so really it's just a mythological creature out of there
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people have seen allegedly. Um, but
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: it certainly did sound more like a serpentine type, which is,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: you know, on these pictures, it kind of looks more
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: like something that the Loch Ness monster would have been
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: described as.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: But I was, I was finding that it might be
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: more of a, just a snake looking one, like a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: worm dragon.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm sticking by these dragons.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. I am.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Here it is. Tahoe Tessie. Here's another one
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: right here. Look at that. Three meters long. That's like
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the size of what people are describing.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: So there's that. And yeah, it would look more like,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: some people describe it more like that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: I have a question. Do giant sturgeon and alligator gar
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: get about the same size? Do alligator gar get that
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: big too? Or do they have that? Do you know?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Let me look it up. You said sturgeon
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: and alligator gar. Let's see.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought the alligator guard get pretty big, but
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not a fisherman outside of maybe some bass and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: some catfish.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, here we go. I've got some pictures. Let's
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: pull these up real quick.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stop sharing that. We're going to pull
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: up the other one. If you are listening on podcast platforms,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: you guys go over to the Cryptid Huntress on YouTube
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: and check out all these pictures that we're showing today.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Cause these are pretty fantastic. It says nightmare fuel. There
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: we go. That looks, that's the alligator guard next to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: a sturgeon right there.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Oops.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Let me go back. This is on Reddit. They're about,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I guess they're probably going to be about the same
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: size maybe.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Those alligator guard are like a little more kind of armored,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: aren't they? I mean, I don't know. I thought.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're armored. I don't know.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Not armored, just a little more, you know what I mean?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Skills on them.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Let's see. I'm trying to find. Here's sturgeons, gar, and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: bow fins.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine any of these things getting
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: to be 14 feet long.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not real familiar with bow fin. You got me
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: on that one. Yeah.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: They all look about the same. They have to be
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: in the same family. They've got to be.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: Because that's another one. Going back again to a river
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: monster guy, Jeremy Wade, he caught some huge alligator gar
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: and really big sturgeons. And, you know, that's when he
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: was looking for the monsters. I like that when you
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: have those people that come forward that are really trying
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: to prove it that aren't completely scripted. I don't know.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: I love talking.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. That does not look like an
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: alligator guard that I've seen. That's weird. I don't know.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Those are creepies.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Though.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks more like an alligator guard. Actually, we
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: were actually filming, or Barton was filming some alligator guard
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: at the LBO when we were there. They were coming
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: up to the shoreline late at night when we were
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: out there. We were shining our flashlights on him, and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: he was taking video of them with his cell phone.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: And they were little ones, though. They were not big.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: So you've got those down there around where you live, right?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, we have them in our lake where I grew
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: up at the farm. Yeah, we had alligator gar out there.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: We had gar. And also, well, I was in Kentucky
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: when we were looking at those in the lake up there.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I was at the Land Between the Lakes. We were
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: watching them that night. And so it was pretty cool.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: You know, it's an interesting thought to me. I'm like, man,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: if I was... had the power and the size of
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: a Sasquatch. And as much as we know now how
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: kind of they are very adaptable to being aquatic, apparently,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: more than humans. And wouldn't that be the perfect catch
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: right there? Screw the noodling. Would you go directly for
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: an alligator gar or pull something like that out of
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: the water? And they'd be capable of it, don't you think?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's really interesting. They're awful powerful. I don't
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: see why they couldn't. In fact, I want to look
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: into it. Has anybody ever seen anything like that? You know,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: they would have been pulling something like that out of
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: the water, something that big. Like we see people only
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: able to net and hook with various, you know what
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: I mean? That'd be a good meal for even a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: family of Sasquatch. Yeah. Bigfoot's noodling out there.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: That's funny. you're thinking about yeah they're putting their big
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: foot in the hole getting a giant i mean that
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: would be fitting for them because those catfish get giant
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: somebody in the chat while ago was saying that you
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: know the catfish they they do burrow in the ground
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: like in the bottom of the lakes and they'll go
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: in their their holes and that's how you noodle them
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: out of there you put your foot down you put
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: your whole leg down in those holes and they clamp
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: onto it and they pull i mean they they got
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: catfish the size of volkswagen bugs like old school bugs
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: and stuff and um out at places like late lanier
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: And anywhere that's like super deep where they got catfish,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: that's just an environment suit to have big fish in it.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: They're going to grow to this, you know, they're going
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: to get out of control big, out of control size.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: You get those urban legends, like even in my state,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: like by this dam that there's supposed to be divers
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: went down there, police divers and seen catfish are capable
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: of swallowing a man hole and it tripped them out,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: you know? So I, and I hear those, I hear
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: those never know if they're how much myth is truth,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: but They sure do get big, so I wouldn't doubt it.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think they taste that good. And listen, I'm
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: always looking like, what's it going to taste like? Okay.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Do you just say that because they're bottom feeders?
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I like catfish. I eat catfish.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: I've always loved catfish. I was going to say, you
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: like shrimp, don't you?
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I don't mind it. Yeah, I like shrimp. I eat
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: all that. I eat everything.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Me too, with the cockroaches. So we're dieting on some
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: sea roaches. And they still taste real good, though.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I personally like catfish, especially with some tartar. Some tartar
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: sauce and some lemons. Okay. Like I will eat some
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: catfish and fried. We had a catfish pond at our farm. And,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: and so we ate catfish all the time growing up, but,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: but the bigger the fish is probably not going to
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: taste that good.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: Just saying, you know, as a matter of fact, you know,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Monday night, I had some blackened trout. It was really good.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Anyway, sorry. We took going to see this. Yeah. If
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: I'm going to eat a fish, yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: If I'm going to eat a fish like catfish, it's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: so slimy. It's got to be fried.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of fish that I'll eat grilled, but
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: like catfish has to be fried.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Sorry, not sorry. That's how I eat it. If I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: eat it. I couldn't eat it blackened.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't catfish. It was trout. It was trout.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I know. Oh, I know. But I'm saying catfish being
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: blackened would be kind of gross.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Normally, normally I've only had it fried for the most
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: part too. Catfish nuggets. They could be real good if
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: they're done right. Anyway. Oh yeah.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Almondine, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I'm obviously hungry. I definitely skipped breakfast this morning.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: I only had coffee. And so we're going to eat
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: right after we get done with the show. Probably some fish.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: We'll see. Or not after this show.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: We've got this other one now. This is a horse-headed one, Barry.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: This is known for horse. Let's see if I can
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: pronounce this right. Hold on. Let me find. Here's one
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: of the heads. The Cadborosaurus. Cadborosaurus. I'm sure I'm putting
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the wrong accent on the wrong syllable.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Cadborosaurus. And it's a horse-headed sea serpent. It weaves through
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: the waters of the Pacific Northwest. Okay, so we're going
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: to go on the other side of the country right now.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: And this is actually towards, you know, British Columbia is
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: over there on that side, over on the west coast.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: The Cadborosaurus, or caddy, is a sea serpent reported along... Yes,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: it's reported along the Pacific coast from Alaska to California.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: So it is over there in BC. It's concentrated around
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Vancouver Island, described as having a horse-like head, a long neck,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: hump body, and flippers. It was allegedly found in the
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: stomach of a sperm whale in 1937. Over 300 sightings
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: have been logged since the 1930s. And, um, Yeah, they
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: say that Alaska sailors, fishermen, and beachcombers reported encounters with
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: a large, long-necked sea creature for well over a century.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: It gets its name from Cadboro Bay in Victoria, British Columbia,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: and goes by the nickname Caddy, a casual diminutive that
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: belies the genuine strangeness of the reports. And it's in
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: one of the world's most productive ecosystems. It's got cold,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: nutrient rich waters. And so, of course, there's a lot
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: of marine life there. And so, of course, something weird
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: like this would be in the waters of that area.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Let's see here. Look at this one. This one is walking.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: It's got legs in this version. That's weird. That looks
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: more like a freaking dinosaur for sure. I don't know.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I hadn't heard it like that. That looks like a T-Rex.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: It's like a T-Rex Nessie right there. So the most
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: compelling evidence came in 1937. A partially digested carcass was reported,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: removed from the stomach of a sperm whale, caught in
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: the Natan Harbor Whaling Station in the Queen Charlotte Islands.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: Photographs taken at the time show an elongated creature with
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: a small horse-like head, a long neck, and an apparent tail.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Let's see if we can find that picture. Let's see,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: is it out here? I bet it's not going to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: be out here. Dang, it'd be nice if we had it.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Look at this. This is interesting. That's weird. Oh, is
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: that the picture right there?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Okay. All right. That's not it.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's the picture up there. I just can't.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Is this it? Maybe that's it. Here we go.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: That's it. Oh, my gosh. Look at that, Barry. Oh,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: my gosh. It looks like it has a camel head.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: That's what it looks like. That's his body spread out
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: all along that table. His head's to the right and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: his tail's to the left. The carcass was not preserved
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: for scientific study. And it says it shows this elongated
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: creature with a small horse-like head, long neck, and apparent tail.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: It was not preserved for scientific study, and the only photograph,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: only the photographs remain. This is that one photograph. And
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: they say that their study on it concluded after examining
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: the photographs that were inconsistent with any known marine animal
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: and proposed the name Cardborosaurus willis. for a potentially undescribed species.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: And witness descriptions across the decades have been consistent. It's
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: something that's around 20 to 40 feet long with a long,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: flexible neck, a horse-like or camel-like head. It does look
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: like a camel. And it has a series of humps
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: on its back and a dorsal ridge. Man, that's pretty fascinating.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a straight-up picture right there. The movement
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: is described as vertical audulation, and the creature is reported
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: moving at considerable speed, sometimes described in the water by
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: kayakers close enough to see detailed features. And the waters
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: of the Pacific, with their extraordinary biodiversity and depth, are
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: one of the most plausible environments for this thing to
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: live in. So there you have it. There's an actual
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: picture of this thing right here. And there's that. Now,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: do I think that's a dragon? No, probably not. I
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: don't know. That's weird. That's like a camel and an
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: eel had a baby right there.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. You know, at first I was having trouble
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: kind of seeing the bottom there. You know what I mean?
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Because that white thing on the top is kind of distracting.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Those are papers, I think.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: There's some kind of tart behind it. I think that's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: a blanket or a sheet of tart.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Are those fins down there? Yeah.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Hanging off the table? Oh, I don't know about below
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: the head.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You've got the hump just behind it.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: It almost looks like it's hanging off the the side
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: by the box there. I was just trying to see
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: if that was a fin.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, let me see. Let me.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: It looks like a fin coming down on the back there.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: It does actually. Yeah. It's got little flippers. Those are
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: flippers right there. And, uh, and those are on, it's
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: on a long table with boxes, uh, wooden boxes, two
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: boxes on the front and then one box on the back.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: The head is on the second box. The fins are
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: on the box next to the table. And if you
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: go down to the other side, the tail is kind
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: of a beautiful tail, like one of those fighting fish.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: What are those called? I can't remember what those things
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: are called. But anyways, yeah, I mean, that's kind of cool.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Maybe it is a dragon of some sort.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Jessica, do you remember there was that picture that went
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: around for so long? It still goes around. It looks
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: like almost a plesiosaur. Yeah. caught on this hook over
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: the boat and it's hanging, you see the fins on
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: it and stuff. You know, I watched a deal where
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: they had proved like genetically that was a, uh, some
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: type of a whale that was, um, deteriorating. I mean,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: they really, they really like kind of proved it. So
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: it's little things like that when I see that, but
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: it looked like that looks so much like those were
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: fins to me of like a plesiosaurus or something, you know?
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't even that that part was hoaxed
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: or anything. It's just the way that that carcass looked.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: And I just see somewhere there with the way that
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: that tail catches me like that in the fin. I'm
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: not saying that's what that is, but it makes me
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: always skeptical what these things might be. You know what
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Yes. That's really interesting, that one, though.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Well, we actually have a picture of it. That's the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: best part. There's some photographic evidence of it. There's not
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of photographic evidence, like one that's like
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: dead and laid out on a table. You know, there's
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: your body, everybody.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: I've heard of caddy. I didn't know all that much
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: about it, but that's really interesting. The caddy. Yeah. Wow.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Well, they got this out of a sperm whale stomach.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: So this had been eaten by a whale.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: So it was on its way to being whale poop.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: And they caught it.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They don't live on plankton. Sperm whales don't live
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: on plankton.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I guess not. They live off of these weird things.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I thought the blue whales lived on plankton. So maybe
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong on that. I don't know. It might get
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: mad at me. I'm not a marine biologist. Yeah.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just weird with that horse. I
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: think it looks like a camel head. It's wild. It's wild.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: That's super wild.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: It kind of does.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: It does it like a camel.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Which is interesting because one of their nearest ancestors is
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: the bat. It's not aquatic really. Interesting.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: What did we say that was? It was like a
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: dead Loch Ness monster. Let me see if I can
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: find that picture that you're talking about where it had
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: like a plesiosaur or something that was like The back
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: of somebody, like on a boat.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Let's see. I'm looking for it. I'm on the hunt.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: What is it called? A plesiosaurus or a plesiosaur?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what they actually called that photo now.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: I can't either, but I know what you're talking about.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: It's so popular, though. Yeah. And to be honest, when
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: I saw how they scientifically proved it wasn't, I was
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: a little disappointed. I mean, just because it didn't really
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: look that way. looked like it was one and it
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't even, it was hoaxed up. It wasn't even one
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: of those deals, you know, but it was some type
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: of a whale that had certain, a very specific type
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: of deterioration that they said, make it look like it
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: almost said had a beak and had a neck that was, yeah,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: it was a trip. And it wasn't one of those
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: deals where, Oh, they're just saying XO would discredit it
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: because it's the truth. It wasn't one of those deals,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Which we get all the time.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, we actually have that sea monster down
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: in Georgia. What is it called? There was a dead
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: one that washed up on shore in Georgia, actually. What
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: was that thing called? Oh, my Lord. I can't believe
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I can't think of its name right now. What is
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: the name of that river down there? Okay. Well, anyways,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: I can't think. I live in Georgia, and I can't
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: remember the name of it. But we had what actually
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: looks like a plesiosaur. Plesiosaurus.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: Plesiosaurus.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Whatever you call it. Oh, the Altamaha. Yeah, they call
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: it Alty. You know, it was in the Altamaha River. Altamaha.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Anyways, there's a dead body there, though.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: It washed up on shore and I've shown it on
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: the pictures. I have shown it on the show before.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: We have actually done. I don't know if I did
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: a remote viewing on that or not. I can't remember.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: It's been a while. But anyways. OK, so there's a body.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, they corrected us, looked it up. Sperm whales aren't
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: like blue whales. They don't live on plankton. They like organisms.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Meat.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: It says squid here. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I don't
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: know how to look that up real quick. I was
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: too curious. I was like, man, maybe it's just blue whale.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Blue whales and one other species lived on just plankton, though. Correct? Correct.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: Who's the other species? Blue whales and something else.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Well, well, sharks as well. They, they eat plankton. That's
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: what you're thinking about.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: We have those in Atlanta at the aquarium in downtown Atlanta.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: There's they're known for the world. Well, sharks are huge.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: I've seen them. I've seen them.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: Mike says, I think sperm whales can eat anything that
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: fits in their mouth.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Oh man. Sounds like me. I can eat anything. I'm
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: starving right now.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, let's go to the next little stuff like that.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: You know, It is.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: OK, we've got two more. OK, two more. And then
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll talk a little bit about dinosaurs or dinosaurs, dragons.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: And and then we'll be done for the day. Class
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: will be dismissed. OK, let's go to the next one.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Manipogo, the Manipogo. All right. And
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: let me take this one down. I really like this
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: picture right here. I'm glad we showed that one. And
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: now we're going to go to the Manipogo. This is
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: another cool one. It looks like all the other ones. Okay,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: the Manipogo Lake Manitoba Serpentine Lake Monster has been reported
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: by indigenous communities for centuries and photographed at least twice. Okay,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: here we go. Let's see. It just looks like a
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: big old snake. See, some of the accounts make it
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: look like a plesiosaur or whatever, something like Nessie. And
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: then other accounts, it just looks like a snake. Or
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: like a dragon. A worm dragon, kind of.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: Or an eel.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Or an eel. That's right. All right.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Is that the one that's been seen walking across land?
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Look at that sticker right there. That looks like a dragon, don't.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: It?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, you know, actually, the Loch Ness
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Monster was seen walking across the land, Barry. Yeah. It
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: was reported walking across the... A man on a motorcycle
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: came across it one night, I think.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that. I kind of, I don't know
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: about that one. I know the one you're talking about, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: I thought there was another one too reported to do that.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: And that's one thing I'm trying to, you know, eels,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know, eels don't really do that to my knowledge,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: but I know they get on the beach sometimes, but
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: they don't, you know, yeah, interesting. It's really interesting. See,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: that looks very eel-like there. Very eel-like.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: It does. Very dragon-like. Okay, so let's see. So the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Manipogo is a large serpentine creature. It's been reported at
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: Lake Manitoba in Canada. Excuse me. Hold on. I got
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: a cough, y'all. Okay, I had a cough. So the
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: indigenous Cree and the Ojibwe communities have held traditions of
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: water creatures in this lake for centuries. And modern sightings
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: began in the early 1900s with notable reports back in
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: 1957 when two fishermen described a creature that was serpentine
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: with three humps on it, on its back. In 1962,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: there were two separate photographs taken that show a dark,
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: elongated form breaking the surface of Lake Manitoba. Which is
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: shallow for its size. It only gets about 12 feet deep.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: 12 feet. That's nothing. That's like a swimming pool. Basically.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: And making the presence of a large undiscovered creature. Difficult
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: to explain. I would say that. That's weird. If it's
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: only 12 feet. That's like nothing. It's swimming pool deep.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Well it's a little deeper than most swimming pools. I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: mean they get like. You get like nine, 10 feet.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Most of them, but like
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Olympic pools and stuff, those are really deep. So I
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm talking about like an average backyard swimmer.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: pool is, you know, it's not 12 feet, but.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: So, uh, they say that Lake Manitoba is one of
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: the largest lakes in the Canadian province of Manitoba. And
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: there have been persistent reports of this unknown aquatic creature
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: since the 19th century. And, um, So it's very similar
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: to the Ogopogo, which we talked about earlier today, I think.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: And of course, it's got the traditions, the roots and
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: the traditions of the Cree people who lived alongside this
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: lake for generations and centuries. And they'd call it a
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: serpentine water spirit. That was what they called it before
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: the Europeans came and settled there. Again, we got the
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Europeans that come in and bring their traditions and their
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: thought forms and their conscious ideas. conscious thoughts out there
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: and it may be manifesting into something. You know, that's
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: another thing too. I wonder, Barry, like what are the,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: what's the probability of like, they're having these longstanding oral
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: traditions of like these sea spirits, these lake spirits being
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: out there and the Europeans come over here and they're
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: settling and like they, they get their collective consciousness and
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: they start actually manifesting these real beings out there. Does
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: that make sense? Like in a 3d form.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Very much be possible. Yeah, I wouldn't argue that at all. Yeah,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: manifestation in different ways for these things to start. And
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: you know how much that is also, you know, like
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: we've talked about before, imprints from the earth and the
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: earth itself projects poltergeist of its own from the past
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of the time. So, you know, it may
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: be all these things, you know. Yeah, this is one
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: of the Canadian ones. I'm not real familiar with this one,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: so that's pretty interesting. I certainly didn't know the deep
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: of the level of water there. Not very deep. That
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: really stands out, doesn't it?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: It does. I'm sure this is AI right here, but
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll put this one up while I
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: finish talking about it. So in 1935, a group of
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: campers reported seeing three large brown serpentine forms moving in
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: formation across the lake's surface. And it involved multiple witnesses
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: and multiple animals simultaneously. And maybe even a breeding population.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: There were all those were multiple seen by multiple people.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: So in 1957, a Manitoba provincial provincial officer or official
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: reported seeing a large creature surface near his boat, describing
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: a dark brown body with a sheep like head. And
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: the length was around 12 feet long. So there's another
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: sheep-like head, Barry. We got camels. We got sheep. We
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: got horses.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: Horses. Yeah.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: And dragons. Dragon heads. So the most significant evidence came
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: in 1962 when two fishermen photographed what they described as
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: a large object moving through the water near the beach.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: The photograph shows an elongated dark shape at the water surface.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: suggested but not conclusive, and the quality of the picture
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: does not permit definitive identification. It's definitely not this one.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: This picture we've got up right now. But it got
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: enough attention that the University of Manitoba dispatched a team
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: to conduct a brief investigation, though they say that no
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: additional information was found or any kind of evidence. And
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: so they say that the lake is, okay, they say
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: it gives as deep as 12 feet, but it averages
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: 10 feet throughout the entire lake, which is not deep
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: at all. You can't even put a big boat in that.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: There's no way. And it makes it an unlikely habitat
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: for a large predator. And it does not support populations
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: of large fish, including channel catfish and northern pike. They
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: get really big. So that's crazy. That's really wild. So
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: they don't even have those big fish in there. And man,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: you know what? My family's lake was like way deeper
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: than that.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: That's wild. Okay.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: So, but they said they probably don't even have large
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: sturgeon there. They said that those were once common in
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: many of the Manitoba waterways. But, oh, maybe they say
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: that there's occasionally very rare. Oh, they do have sturgeon
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: in this lake. They say that the sturgeon are there actually. Okay. And, uh,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: and they may, may be what are producing these sightings,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: but I don't know about having like humps on them
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that and being 12 feet, they could
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: get 12 feet, but I don't know. And that, that
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: kind of water, maybe, maybe not.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, there might be a log that, um,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: you know, never, never know. I mean, not that particular picture,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: but somebody might've seen something like that in there. It
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: would probably appear bigger than it is just by the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: volume along with the water, I would think. Yeah.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: I want to see if I can find that picture.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Let's see. There's one. I don't know. Is that it?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: The size of the body of water makes me doubt
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: this one. You know what I mean? Maybe that's not logical,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: but I just... We're not correct, but I just can't
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: help it logically. Yeah.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, to us, to humans, 12 feet is
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: pretty deep.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: It's going to be like... you know, if you're six
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: feet tall, that's two of you. Okay. So that's pretty deep,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: but it's not that deep in size comparison to all
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: these other lakes that we're talking about today. It's nothing.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: Didn't you dive down to the bottom of a 10,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: 12 pool?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Oh God. I have before.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: I've gone down to some pools, some.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: Deep pools before. But I guess as my mother used
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: to say, you can drown in a tablespoon of water.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: So I guess it doesn't matter.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: No, that's the picture right there, Barry. That could be
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: a limb. I'm sorry. That right there could be a
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: daggum limb. That's a tree limb or something.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: We saw bigger than that floating down in the Mississippi. Yeah,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: we did.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: We saw that together.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: And they were spinning and all that. They were moving
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: all over the place. So I'm not saying that's a
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: tree limb for sure. I'm just saying it could be.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: It could be.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: So that's that one. All right. So let's go over
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: to there's another one out of Canada. All right. So
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: let's get into, this is the final one. The, I
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce this. The mint free, the
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: mint free, I think. And, uh, and so let's see
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: if I've got something to pull up here. The mint free.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: I don't even have any pictures of this one.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Uh, I have some drawings that we can show. And, uh,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: and so I'm just going to pull up whatever I
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: got on duck, duck, go y'all the mint free. And, uh,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: and they, uh, The main pictures are at some kind
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: of garden here. It looks like a snake. The mint-free.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it looks similar to all these other ones.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: Here's a good one. Here's a drawing. It looks like
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: a worm dragon. All right. So this is a large
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: aquatic creature in Lake Mint-Free-Mogog.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't pronounce it. Mint-free. mint dog okras.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Mint free magog mint free magog okay and it spotted
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: uh on the quebec and or quebec i don't know
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: how y'all pronounce quebec either i say quebec okay but
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: quebec and vermont sure so this is like okay so
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: quebec and vermont oh my gosh by the way vermont
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: is full of cryptids we just cut we've been i've
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: been covering plenty of vermont cryptids lately all those lumberjacks
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: hills that they've had like lumberjacks were reporting all those
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: different creatures. Is that where the black, what was that?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Like the, the black beast was in Vermont. I just
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: covered that like a week ago. And, um, the devil
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: monkeys are all up that way, by the way. And
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: the woods devils.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: That one's always interesting to me.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Those are always cool.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Well, let's see. So this is a large aquatic creature.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: It's a modern sightings. uh, have accelerated throughout the 19th
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: or the 20th century. And, uh, of course, sightings of
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: this thing were happening before the European settlers came in,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: of course. And, uh, but witnesses describe a dark serpentine
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: body 20 to 60 feet long with a horse-like head. Uh,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: the lake is deep. It reaches 350 feet in places
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: and it's 30 miles long. Uh, over 200 sightings were, uh,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: documented by a man named Jacques Boisvert. And before his
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: death in 2006, he documented all those sightings. And there's
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: the International Dracontology Society of Lake Memphremagog. I know I'm
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: pronouncing that wrong. So they're continuing to catalog reports. That's weird.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: A dracontology. Dracontology? That's like dragons, isn't it? Dracontology? I've
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: never even heard of that. Or is it lizards?
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: I had to look that one up. I've never heard
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: of that before. So this lake stretches 27 miles across
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: the border between Vermont and Quebec, making it one of
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: the few lake monster habitats that spans two countries. Okay,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: and the creature is known as the memphri, derived from the...
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Abenaki name for the lake believed to mean large expanse
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: of water and of course the roots are in oral
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: traditions of the abenaki and the iroquois iroquois people who
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: inhabited the region long before the europeans came over and
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: settled and the earliest written account is from 1816 from
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: some european settlers and they described an unusual creature in
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: the lake. And throughout the 19th century, the Newport, Vermont,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: and the Magog, Quebec, press periodically reported sightings of a
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: large animal in the lake with witnesses describing a dark
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: serpentine form moving at speeds across the surface. And the
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: reports were consistent by the late 1800s, and it was
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: a well-established regional phenomenon on both sides of the lake
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: in both countries. And of course, This Jacques Bouvert, a
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Quebec diver, conducted extensive research into the lake sightings history
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: beginning in the 1980s. He founded the International Society of
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Dracontology in 1986, the term being his own coinage for
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: the study of lake monsters. That's what it means. And
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: he compiled more than 200 reported sightings from both the
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: American and the Canadian shores. We need to look into
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: this guy. And so he reported his own visual encounter
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: with the creature during a 1986 dive, describing a dark,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: elongated shape at the depth that moved away from him rapidly.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: His advocacy brought the Memphrey consistent media coverage in both
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: countries and helped establish the creature as a significant entry
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: in the North American cryptozoology. And the lake does support
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: healthy populations of lake trout, Atlantic salmon, landlocked Atlantic salmon.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: And very large fish have been seen breaking the surface.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: And so they think that some of these large fish
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: jumping out of the water could be what people are
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: seeing and they're reporting it as this creature. But the
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: water's cold and it's clear. And yeah, but it still
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: makes it difficult because it's so deep. You know, the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: water's probably pretty dark. So they have pretty much embraced
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: this creature as one of their local cryptids out there.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's really cool that that man came up.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: He was a diver and he took an interest in
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: all the lake monsters and stuff. I would like to
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: look into him more. Yeah. We should definitely look into him.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: Especially talking about the lake monsters. I want to see
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: what his research is. Other than just this. So that's
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: He's a good guy on YouTube, isn't he?
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: He passed away in 2006, it says.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, probably not. No, sir.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so his research began, I think he created that
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: organization in 1986, he said, I think. 1986, the Society
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: of Dracontology. Dracon-tology. Draconian?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Dracon? Drake?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Drake? those are lizards, right? Reptiles, reptilians, reptiles of some sort, dragons, potentially. I'm,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: that's a wonderful way to end this off today because
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: I think these are dragons.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: I need you to bust that out. I need you
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: to bust that out before we got out of here. Yeah.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that he's backing me up now.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a couple of things, you know, like, um,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: For example, I became really fascinated when doing those videos.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: I've done some fast blasts over this stuff on my channel,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: over sea serpents. But when dealing with not just the K-Moss,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: but how often these things are described as having these
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: horse heads and things, it made me really think about,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to sound completely corny, but it
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: made me think a lot about a species that we
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: don't think about much, at least I didn't outside of childhood,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: which would be the giant seahorse, which is only, I
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: think it's about to what, about maybe 12, maybe almost
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: a foot or smaller, but there's a couple of different
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: types of seahorses, but the giant one, and you know,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: they live on crustaceans too. And I'm just wondering how
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: many varieties was there of that as we go through
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: the evolution cycle, you know? And then also there was
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: in Loch Ness, pretty sure it was Loch Ness, they
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: had that, uh, that, that, that boat and those scientists
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: that were doing that whole, they could test the water
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: now for like the DNA and genetics and stuff. And
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: they couldn't find anything of Nessie in there. It would
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: be places or like, or anything, but I don't know
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: what they're looking like for giant eel type of stuff
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: or whatever, but they're looking for something they can do.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Like they can get like a lot of those species.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: Now I can't tell you exactly what that, you know,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: what process they're using, but they've, they've been on a, like, um,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: that history channel, um, animal planet and stuff like that. So,
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: you know, um, anyway, just food for thought on that.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: I wonder how much further we get further that technology
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: goes further. They're going to be able to isolate stuff
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: that has really something of cryptic nature. Most likely. I
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: think that's pretty exciting.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. I do too. I'm trying to
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: find some information here on the serpentine dragons. I had
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: it pulled up, but I don't like that website.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: So to see, to see horses, do they, do they
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: register as dragon for you? Do they, do they, do
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: they make it? Why not?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: No, cause I've seen, I used to, I used to
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: collect little seahorses, little dead ones off the beach and
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: stuff when I was a kid. I wonder what ever
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: happened to those. No, I don't, I don't think, well,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: they do, they could be, I don't know. There could
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: be some kind of offshoot or some kind of dragon
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: or something. I don't know.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think so though. It's quite interesting, actually.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: But they do have that horse head in their aquatic.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: Food for thought only, you know. Yes.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: We're going to look at worm dragons real quick before
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: we go today. And worms. All right. W-Y-R-M-S. And let
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: me share my screen. I have so many tabs open today.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: It is absolutely ridiculous. Here we go.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: See all these ads up here. Yikes.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: So many ads.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: Okay. Here we go.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: Worms. This page is a stub.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I don't even know.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: What is this? Dragons.fandom.com.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Worms. Oh, dang it. I hate these ads.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: What is up with this?
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: Sorry, everybody. So worms, alternatively worms, worms, or arms.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: Are serpentine dragons, normally of European origin. The word is
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: derived from the Norse ormer. It's used to mean all dragons.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: And in modern use, it supplied dragons with worm-like qualities,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: a long body shape, which is either legless or with
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: small legs. And there are worms in Britain, including the
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Lambton worm, the Laidley worm of Bramborough, as well as
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: many more worm legends. In Sussex, it's very Scottish and
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: English and probably Irish, I guess. I don't know. But
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: I think this is more for mythological tales. So this
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: is not really what I was looking for.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: But how about this? Let me stop sharing that. And
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: I've got some pictures over here. I think I already
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: showed these, though. But these are what a worm dragon
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: looks like. Okay, a worm dragon. And if I can
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: find my notes.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: You know, you got... You got a great chat. I
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: just looked over here. A bunch of people were talking
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: about sea monkeys. Those were Brian's shrimp. They sure didn't
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: last very long once you got them in the water, though,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: did they? No.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Actually, my cousin, my aunt called us one day and
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: was like, our sea monkeys escaped. And so I was
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: thinking there's sea monkeys all over their house and running
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: rampant like the gremlins throughout their house when I was
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: a kid. But anyways, they're just little shrimp. I had
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: sea monkeys, too. We all had sea monkeys. Everybody had
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: sea monkeys. If you didn't have sea monkeys, I don't
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: know what to tell you.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: Somebody said they were kind of a ripoff. Not as
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: bad as those x-ray glasses. Man, those were a rip. Oh, man.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: I could see through a single woman's dress. Of course.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Not as bad as John Candy, though. In Splash, he
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: was dropping change, wasn't he?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, gosh. Oh, my gosh. That's too funny. Oh, gosh. Well,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: I was going to bring up what worms are. And
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: worms are large, wingless worms. Legless dragons. They're thick, serpentine
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: bodies with a head of a dragon. Many are described
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: as having horns in comparison with Western dragons. And their
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: legends have attributed them far fewer supernatural powers, even though
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: some are said to breathe fire. And I don't think
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: any of these late monsters that I've ever heard of
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: have ever breathed fire. Not in this reality, they haven't.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: But they can be found in swamps, lakes, and even
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: in wells. Like, can you imagine going to get some
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: water out of your well and like one of these
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: things comes up? Oh, and by the way, I did
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: want to show this one video. I'm going to pull
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: up my TikTok account. Because there's this video that everybody's
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: seen it. I know y'all have seen this. It's these
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: people that are exploring a cave. And this, like, worm-looking
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: dragon comes out. Okay? And I think this is a
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: real video. Of a real animal. Some people think it's
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: a large salamander, I believe. And hold on one second.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: It'll take me a second to pull this up. A
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: cryptid huntress. If you guys are not following me on TikTok,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: please do. Follow me over on TikTok. And I'm going
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: to click on the repost right here. And we're going
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: to watch this. This has 30 million views from this
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: account right here. And I don't know whose account this is.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to figure it out. Spooky moments. Okay.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Let's look at this video
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: because I think, okay, this is just my opinion. This
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: does fit the bill of like a worm dragon. Okay.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: And I know people are like, oh, it's not a dragon.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: It's this and that. Well, it's because people laugh at
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: you when you think and say a dragon's real.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: But it could be, it could be a large salamander
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: as well. It could be, it could be anything. But
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I want you guys to see this video because I
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: think it's fantastic. Okay. And someone has a chainsaw outside
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: my window right now. I don't know if y'all can
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: hear that. I tell you what, it's always something over here. Okay,
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: so spooky moments on TikTok. And you might need to
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: make your screen bigger here. I'll try to make this
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: one bigger. Imagine seeing this terrifying cave worm that looks
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: like a dragon or cave worm. Look at that.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's coming at these guys. Is this real?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: I want to see what the audience has to say
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: about this. Check that out.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Is this supposed to be a giant salamander?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It looks like a dragon to me.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, this has over 30 million views on TikTok.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Just this one video right here. Look at it.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: Or a newt. It looks like a giant newt. A newt?
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: Kind of.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: Is that what a newt is?
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: I've got it.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: I've got it.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: Pause.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: Let's look at it. Look at his face. And it's
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: moving like a worm. Does it have legs?
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: It's got spikes on it though.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: Is that even real?
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: I'm calling AI on that one, but it's a good one.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: How old? It's very, I don't know. It's been around forever.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: So that's interesting. I mean, it's interesting. I don't know.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: I've never seen it, Jessica. I've never seen this one.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Let's see what everybody's saying. It looks real
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Looks real. It does look real, but somebody had something
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: on here. Let's see. We found, Ooh, Bigfoot Dwarfs says
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: they found a Northern California giant salamander on Bluff Creek.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: Please share that with us. I want to see that
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: BD for sure. And let's see. All right.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: Something I found interesting about newts was that newts are
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: capable of making that enzyme coming from their bellies that
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: kind of burns, especially the newts that have the orange belly.
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? Black on the top,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: orange on the bottom. They create an enzyme that they, yeah,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: it burns human skin a little bit. I mean, just
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: it stings. One of my mentors collected newts and salamanders
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 2: taught me that.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, how cool. Well, Bonnie, that's really cool. She's put some,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: some of the worms in Scotland. What is that? The
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: store worm in Scotland and Oakney and the Lampton worm
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: in England. That's very cool. Thank you for that.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What do they look like? What do they look like?
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: They look like, look like the ones from like the,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: that show tremors. There's a movie tremors, TV show tremors.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: There were like those, really type of, there's some type
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: of worm, I think.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Let's see. L-A-M-B-T, lampden worm. Let's see. That would be a,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: it's like what we're talking about right now. As a
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: matter of fact.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: I'll pull it up in just a second.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: 15 years old. Max. Yeah. So Max, it's gone now,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: but they said it's 15 years old or something. Okay.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I have another. Here's another one, too. This is
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: the healing dragon right here. This is this is the
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: same video. It's a different person has it out here.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: It's the same video, though.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, that's that. I just think that that's
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: a cool video. You guys can go look it up.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: I just looked up a I forgot what I typed in.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: It was like dragon in a cave or something. A
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: real video of a dragon in a cave. On TikTok.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: And that's what came up. And that's the video I
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: was looking for. And it came up immediately.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: It was the first video. I've never seen that. Yeah.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: It's a good one. It's a good one. If I remember,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: I'll put it on my social media. I'll put it
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: in my stories after the show today. Later this afternoon.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: So that's cool. And let's look at this thing. The
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: Lambton Worm. Lambton Worm. Thank you. This is compliments of
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: Bonnie's comment right here. And so let's pull this one up.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Here's a picture of it. The Lambton Worm. Oh, that
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: one has a knight about to chop its head off
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: right there. So that's, yeah, you know, we kind of wonder, like,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: where did all these dragons go, Barry? Where'd they all go? Well,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: there's historical accounts of them all being slayed by dragon
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: slayers throughout the years. You know, do you think there
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: was some kind of, maybe there was some sort of,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't say like a military type of
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: thing of like where they went out and they like,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: they hunted them down and got rid of all of them.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: I guess, I guess they were pretty dangerous to humans though.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: If they were, if they were alive and real and.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 2: Living prehistoric creatures, perhaps that have not gone extinct like
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: we would do right now, like we would do right
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: now and are doing, but it's hard to prove now,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: but now they can almost just do it genetically. So
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: I guess it doesn't matter, man.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, Well, that's super cool. Thank you, Bonnie,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: for sharing that. There's all sorts of these darn worms.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: Worms with a W-Y-R-M.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: I'll look some of those up. I'll look some of
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: those up. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I feel like I learned a whole lot of
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: stuff today. And we got to see an actual picture
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: of one of these lake monsters with a camel head today.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: How cool is that?
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: It's cool seeing similarities in a lot of the reports, too.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: That's good. It is. I'm sorry, they're giant eel similarities.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: I can't get off that. Since my seahorse thing didn't
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: fly with you. Oh, yeah.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that is interesting, though. That's an interesting connection, for sure.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: The little seahorses that I used to get were like
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: this big. They were tiny.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: I've seen some bigger ones at the aquarium in Atlanta.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: They have, they have a collection of living ones.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: Big ones. I think the giant seahorses can get what,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: nine or 10 inches, something like that. Yeah.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: The ones that I have, I want to say they're
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: like zebra striped or there's something different about them. They
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: have like, I forgot what they look like. They've got like,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: almost like ribbons or like they're not ribbons. They're just
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: real delicate looking, very delicate looking.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: And, um, When you interviewed the Kelpie two weeks ago,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: you know, I kept getting attracted to that possibility that
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: things like seahorse types of things, it was a water horse, unquote,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: you know, seahorse came to mind. And also a friend
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: had brought up how there was the general that they
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: shared ancestor with the manatee, the horse and the manatee. Yeah,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: it's interesting. I never even knew, you know, fascinating, isn't it?
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: It is, man. There's so much out there that we
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: just don't, I don't know. Just, it's kind of, I
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's necessarily been like hidden from us
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: on purpose, which I do think it has been.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: But, um, maybe they're just very elusive and they don't
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: want to be caught.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 2: Brown dwarf. What's up? I've heard about that. And people
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: even making renditions of that. Yeah. That's supposed to be
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: the huge, like something like that, like seven feet tall
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: or something. Giant. Seven feet long salamander. Huge one. Yeah.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'll read the comments from the podcast.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: Since they're amphibious. Very interesting.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot Dwarf says there's a giant, a cryptid giant salamander
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: that's several feet big that's supposed to be in the
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: Trinity Alps over the hills from Bluff Creek. Man, that
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: is so cool. I think Cryptids of the Corn had
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: gone out there. Maybe Mr. E and some of those guys.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: I want to say that they had gone out there
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: to go look for that thing. It's been a while.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: It's been a while. But I want to say they
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: were doing something with that.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: I was watching a thing about that. And, um, also the,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: there's another spot is in the Amazon or somewhere. They
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: talk about these giant spiders supposed to be the size of,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: you know, like real big ones, like, like arachnophobia, like
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: bigger than arachnophobia, terrible movie. But anyway, Oh man. Oh Lord.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: Ooh. Speaking of terrible movies, I got to watch a
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: movie the other day. Just kidding. I'm going to say this.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: I had to, We have an interesting show next week, y'all,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: by the way.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Payne's coming back for a speech. I'm not saying
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: the Warriors is a terrible movie, but I had to
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: watch the Warriors with him the other day. I didn't
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: have to, but I did.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: It was actually, it's actually, it's not terrible. It's not
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: great either. Okay. It was way better when I was younger.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a great movie, but then I
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: watched it and I was like, what the heck is this?
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: It's like watching the Lords of Flatbush. It's a God
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: by God era, man. I know.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: Well, we, well, I got to, uh, well, we watched that.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: It was actually really fun. I got, I got to
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: hang out with Jimmy and, uh, And he went through
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: all the parts of that, showing me the connections to
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: the Montauk girls. So some of you guys in the
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: chat will be really interested in this next show we're
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: going to do. It's going to be next Wednesday, a
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: week from today. Jimmy's coming on for a daytime show.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: And we're going to go over that whole crew are
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: like Montauk boys. Some of the guys on there were
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: allegedly Montauk boys, according to Jimmy. And then some of
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: the girls in there were Montauk girls. And it's all connected.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: It's right there in New York on Long Island where...
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: Camp Hero is. It's actually Camp Hero is north and
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: this is like south. But but anyways, we've got some
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: really cool connections. So we're going to get into that
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday. And but anyways, yeah, I just thought about that. Oh,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: that movie. I was shocked at like how I remembered
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: it being good when I was young and then seeing
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: it again. And I was like, yeah, Lee, what is this?
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: But but it's all right. It's interesting, though, how like
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: some of these movies have been putting out soft disclosure
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: for a while, even movies like that. okay and um.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: What's the great disclosure in that one what.
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: Is it montauk the montauk voice yeah montauk voice and
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: and actually drug running and stuff like that too the
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: government was doing so it's going to be really interesting
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: actually i was i was impressed.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: Between programming and murdering the people from a lot of
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: the people that were the leather face of them and
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: all that what do you call those people's name oh
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: it's different sorry chainsaw people.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah I got you I'm not into this gory stuff
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: okay I don't know we're a little gory a little
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: bit not really though I think somebody got pushed out
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: in front.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: Of a train what's wrong you want to take a
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: trip to Camp Crystal Lake go on up there and
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 2: hang out I.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: Would actually they probably have Bigfoots out there it is
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: getting close to Halloween now we got another month it's
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: another month away It'll be Halloween time.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: See, that's Jessica. That was a Friday the 13th joke.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: It just went. I know what it is.
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: I know what it is. I know Jason. Jason is
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: chained down there to the bottom of that lake.
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: No, he wound up in Manhattan. You're wrong about that. Oh,
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He took Manhattan.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, did he? I have to ask Ben about that.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: My son is the expert on that.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: So, but anyways. Yeah, it's going to be interesting next week.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: So y'all come and y'all be sure to tune in
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, well, Barry, thank you so much
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: for being here today. I've really enjoyed this one. It's
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: just another enjoyable, fun show today.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks for having me. You did a really good
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: job on elucidating on each one of those creatures. So
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: that's really cool.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: And there's more others, too. The ones even get more
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 2: dinosaur-like and like the Brontosaurus one. But I like how
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: you focused on more of the serpentine type ones this time,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 2: which takes us all into that giant eel. K-Moss thing.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: And that K-Moss is very real. I was tripped out
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: when I found out about that. I started looking up
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: some of those holes. I mean, they're really big ones.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: And they just burrow in there and get those salmon
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: to come out so quick they can't get caught. That
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: almost makes them a little mythical to me that none
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: of these K-Moss have been caught messing with those nets,
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: following those salmon. Or at least not that we've been
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: told anyway. So the guy told me he said none
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: and everything. Just can't catch them. Whoa.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: Well, that's really cool. I was trying to find them
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: on here.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: I did a video on my channel in the playlist.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: It's called Sea Serpents. I did like two of them,
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: maybe three. Sea Serpents is one of them. The most
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: recent one, I think.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: K-Moss. Oh, here it is. I think. It doesn't say
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: K-Moss on it. I would pull it up, but it
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: looks just like all the rest of these that we
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: talked about today. It's like the same. They all look
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: very similar, and it is like a worm-like body, like
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: a snake. Serpentine. is what I call it. Serpentine. Yeah. So,
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, one more reason not to go swimming. Okay.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying. And, and, and what is the connection
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: between like the Cherokee, the Cherokee people had talked about the,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: the giant snakes here in the Appalachians as well. They're
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: like giant snakes. I wonder if this has something to
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: do with that.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: If it's just a snake.
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 2: See what, or what do you call water snakes? Definitely.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: They spend most of their time in the water. That's
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: something else that goes, you know, maybe a little different
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: than the giant eel, but both of those would to
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: the same end visually, you know? Yeah. Right. Yeah.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, it, it could all be connected and it
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: may not be, but, but it's, but it's, it's just cool.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: It's food for thought. As you say, Barry, food for thought,
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: all of it. And yeah.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: This is not, this is, I like having a variety
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: of topics on the channel, you know, and, and this
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: is one that I think it's, I think it's fantastic
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: because we do stuff like this. I'm not used to
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: talking about these things and I learn a whole lot.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: And so. I learned a lot this time. A couple
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: of those things I've not heard of and some things
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: to look up as far as different fish and things
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: people are mentioning there. And that's real cool.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: And salamanders as well.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: I want to see the video. Send us that, please
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: put it out for us. And, uh, okay, well, Barry,
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: where can everybody find you? Thank you so much for
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: being here. You got your own YouTube channel and whatnot.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on, I'm on YouTube under Barry Littleton. Come
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: on over, hit the bell, hit the subscribe. I'm under
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: Barry Littleton. I'm on Facebook under Barry Littleton, Instagram and
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: Patreon all under Barry Littleton. Um, for services, you can
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 2: reach me at Barry Littleton, 13 at gmail.com. my address
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 2: i do hypnosis sessions hypnosis of various modalities past life
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: incarnation abduction regressions negative identity dissolvement generational curse cutting and
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: probably most important importantly earthbound spirit release rescue also or
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 2: loss of weight and stop smoking i do readings as
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: well so hit me up i love working with people
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: i've had the pleasure of working with some really cool
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: people that are in your audience. So much appreciation to
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: you all.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: All right. Great reviews too. I've heard them. And so, yeah. Well,
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: thank you, Barry. You know, I was just thinking as
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: you were saying that and you go live every Sunday
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Every Sunday I go live and
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: bore people for about a good hour and a half,
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 2: two hours. fumble around with pictures and all the other things,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: you know, just the fact that we were able to
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: pull it off as a miracle. Believe me, I appreciate
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: you for that. He helps you out so much.
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 1: Oh man. It's always fun over there. You know, I
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: started thinking, I saw somebody, I think Mike or somebody
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: was like talking about water moccasins being the worst snakes
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: and cottonmouth. That's why I did this show. Cause I was,
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with snakes right now. That's gotta be what
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: it is. I don't know. I subconsciously like went straight
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: to the snake dragons today. because I have been so obsessed.
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: Like I've been watching all these videos of snakes and
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: poisonous snakes and snake bites and snakes being in people's houses.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 2: It's just really bad where you live. Cotton mouse, AKA
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 2: water moccasins. Aren't they really bad where you live? Oh yeah.
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: Crazy story.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: I'll tell this audience too. I guess since we're here,
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: since we're all friends, I'll tell y'all. Back when I
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: was married and stuff, my, my husband at the time
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: was outside, burnt. He was in the middle of summertime
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 1: and he was out there burning stuff, like burning limbs
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: and debris and stuff in the backyard. We were always
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: cutting trees down and brush and stuff. And we live
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: on a lake.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: In the backyard, we had a big old porch on
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: the back of the house. And, uh, and I was
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: standing outside looking over the lake. You know, if you
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: watch any of my old videos, you'll see me like
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: with the lake in the background. I was sitting on
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: a boat half the time on my videos and stuff. And, uh,
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: we had a beautiful lake in the backyard. And, uh,
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: And so he was back there like burning stuff on
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: this fire. And I saw a snake every year. We
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: would always have at least one or two water moccasins
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: that would come from this island that was across the
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: lake from directly behind the house. And I would watch
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: a water moccasin. You can tell they're cottonmouth water moccasins
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: because they swim on top of the water. That's how
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: you can tell if a snake is poisonous in the lake.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 1: Not poisonous snakes, usually you just see the tip of
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: their head come out. water moccasins will swim on and
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: rattlesnakes will rattlesnake swim too by the way they'll swim
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: on top of the water their whole body really they
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: float yeah that's good info there so so i'm watching
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: this snake come from like the from the island and
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: it's coming straight for like our house like over here
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: and usually they would like fork off and like go
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: off to the the corner of the yard we lived
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: on a peninsula kind of and uh and i was
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: like oh maybe they'll go in the neighbor's yard i
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: didn't like her anyways okay but anyways Um, so I
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: know go to, go to Kelly's yard.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: Um, but, uh, but anyways, I don't live there anymore. Y'all, uh,
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: no offense to her. Okay. But anyways, so, so the
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: snake would, it would like go to the corner. Well,
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: this time it didn't go towards the corner, Barry. It
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 1: went straight for that burn pile that was burning where my,
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: my husband at the time was standing with his back
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: to the lake with his earbuds in, and he was
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 1: just sitting there not paying any attention. And I saw
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: this snake coming straight for him. I mean, it was
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: like straight for him. And I was like, oh, it's
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: going to turn off. It's going to turn off at
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: some point. It didn't turn. And it just kept coming.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: And it was going really fast. It was like darting
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: right for him. And so I started yelling at him.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, there's a snake. Hey, there's a snake.
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: And I had to run down there to get his
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: attention because he wasn't paying attention to me. He couldn't
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: hear me. his earbuds in and when he saw me
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: i was like there's a snake right behind me and
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: right when he saw me it was just about to
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: hit him and as he turned around this snake was
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: about to hit the land and a king snake t-boned
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: it right there like this king is this huge king
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: snake was waiting for it to hit the the the
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: land right there the bank and uh and so he
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: turns around these snakes twist up together and go right
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: at him. And it was like, I mean, I don't
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: know what that's, I think the snake was going to
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: go attack him. It was crazy. I've never seen a
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: snake do that before. And, uh, but that King snakes
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: literally saved his life and it got tangled up and
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: the King, the King snakes will eat the poison of snakes.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: Interesting because they're not poisonous to us, right? No, no.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: You want, you want King snakes on your property. You
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: want them. Those are the black snakes with the yellow
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: markings on them. Y'all.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: I've seen some really big king snakes. Really big ones. Yeah,
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: like unreal, kind of. Yeah, yeah. That's my old job, actually. Wow,
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: that's a killer story. It is. It almost sounds like
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: the king snake was a guardian, to be honest.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think snakes are one of my spirit animals,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: I think. I used to have a pet snake.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, Nagas. I don't know.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe a little reptilian stuff going on there, but No,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a reptilian. But I have been
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: kind of obsessed with snakes lately. I really have. Y'all
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: know I have. I've been talking about them all the time.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: The way the water snake, or the way the moccasin
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: was moving, was it in striking position, you think, when
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: it got to them?
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: No, it didn't even make it out of the water
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: before the king snake got it. And that was a
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: shocker that the king snake was even there, because the
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: king snake was hidden in the bank. And it was
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: just like, it would, I've never seen a snake move
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: that fast in one direction. Like it had his eyes
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: set on, on him and it was going straight for him.
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 1: And right, I mean, I was mortified because I saw
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: it and I was like, snake. And as he turned around,
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 1: he had just enough time to train. He had on
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: his work boots and stuff. I mean, it still would
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 1: have hurt him though if it had gotten bit. But
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: as he turned, he had on his jeans and stuff.
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: But when he turned around, that king snake just, I mean,
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: you know what T-bone is. It's like, it's perpendicular hit
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 1: right here and it just got it. And it, and
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 1: it was such a hard hit from both sides. It
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: was crazy. It was wild. I never seen like, I literally,
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: I wish I could have had a video of that.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, it went viral just like that.
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 2: I know. Right.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: We didn't have camera. Our camera didn't reach down there
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: that far, but, but anyways, that's my story. I'm sticking
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 1: It was wild. And I got a new appreciation for
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: King snakes after that. For sure. So y'all please be
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: safe out there. I know I talk about snakes a
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: heck of a lot this summer because they're really bad
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: right now and they're everywhere. Snakes are extraordinarily out there.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: Extraordinarily more sightings and more bites and all that. Or
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm just seeing it more. You know what I mean?
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing about it more. So please be safe out there.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: And if you guys have ever had any kind of
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: dragon worm sightings, any kind of lake monster sightings, let
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: me know. Y'all put it in the comments and stuff
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: and in the chat.
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: And I would love to hear about it. If you
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: have any evidence, y'all send it to me emailing.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to start putting like, I'd like
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: to start something on my website where I have like
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: encounter maps and stuff like that. Maybe even have where
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: people can send in their reports of things that have happened.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: to them and stuff over on my website. So I'm
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: going to work that out here in the next week and, uh,
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: and get that going, get that up and running y'all.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 1: So, um, but anyways, I just need some people to
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: help me. I do too much by myself. So I got,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: I got to find the right people to help out
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: with that. But, but anyways, all right, Barry. Well, thank
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: you so much again for being here. I will see
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: you over on your channel this weekend.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh, somebody else. Oh, every Sunday at 3
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: PM I go on. Every Sunday, 3 p.m. Central time.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: That is 3 p.m. Central time. And often, for some reason,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: it winds up being 307 for whatever. But I shoot
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 2: for three every time.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: That's like me. I'm always a little late, y'all. I apologize.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: I'm always I'm still researching when I hit the button.
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: And anybody who comes to my shows will tell you
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: I'm still printing things out and trying to research before
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: we go live. And so that's why I just want
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: to make things good for y'all.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it costs me a couple of minutes.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: You do like you did today. You did a really
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: good presentation. It was really organized and succinct. So that's cool. Shoot. Yeah.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Hillbilly Herb says, I saw a chipmunk eat
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: a garter snake once. I'll be just like a Twizzler.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: Y'all have the funniest comments, man. That's that would suck. But,
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: but anyways, all right, you're ready. Have a great day, y'all. Oh,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: I want to thank again, Ingenib. Thank you so much
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: for that super sticker. You are so sweet. I appreciate
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: your support very much. And, uh, yeah, you guys come
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: back and see me tomorrow night. I actually have, uh,
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: I actually, tomorrow night I have Nick Sylvester coming on. Actually, uh,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: we're going to be getting into some dog man, uh,
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: remote viewing stuff that he, that he and I have been, uh,
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: in works with, uh, for tomorrow night. And Barry's giving me,
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: you've given me some good targets. We'll have to go
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: over those maybe next week or something. We'll, we'll, uh,
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: figure those out. And, uh, I have not done those
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: targets yet. So don't tell me what they are. I
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: I will never do that. It ruined everything, but, I
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: promise you when it's all done, you'll find it very interesting.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 2: I promise.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. Okay, well, we'll go over those targets
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: next week. Y'all have a great day. Scott Brush, what's up, buddy?
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being here today. It's good to see you.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: Scott was my guest last Saturday. This Saturday, I have
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: Dwight Campbell coming on. Y'all come back and see me
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: Saturday night out of North Carolina. He is a badass
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot hunter out there, an investigator, a researcher. Y'all are
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: going to love him, okay? And he's not super public,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't do interviews often. Okay. So, but anyways,
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: y'all come tune into that too. I'll see y'all when
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: I get back here tomorrow night, 8 p.m. Y'all have
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: a great day. Be careful where you go swimming. That's
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: all I got to say. All right. I'll see y'all
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: tomorrow night.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: Bye.