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JRE MMA Show _171 with Brendan Allen(M4A_128K) · NO FILTER

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Jo Podcast check it out.
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  Speaker 2: But Joe Logan Experience Train by Day, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Rogan Podcast by Night, All Day. All right, what's happening? Brother?
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Thanks for having us my pleasure. So, Jamie, what were
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: you just saying? I stopped you because it sounds so crazy. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Trump said there's gonna be eight to nine title fights
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  Speaker 3: at the White House USC event, and that there are
• 0:26
  Speaker 3: I guess in quotes withholding.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, there's only eight weight classes, so how's there gonna
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: be nine title fights? May be a fight maybe out
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  Speaker 1: of BMF, maybe have all them, I guess, But that's
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: kind of a crazy thing. We're gonna have twenty title fights.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: All the title fights has ever been? Did he say
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: any matchups? I didn't say who.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: He just said they're gonna I like, I see if
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  Speaker 3: there's even like a tweet about it, but I just
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  Speaker 3: lopped talking about it. It's like a I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: press conference or something.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if they don't do John Jones at the White House,
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be a travesty. For sure. You need
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: to do that. They have. Come on, Dana is like,
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  Speaker 1: you can't count on them, You can't fucking count on them?
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Stop.
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  Speaker 4: When he wants to. He's gonna make it happen at
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  Speaker 4: the White House.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, John Jones versus. Let's see what does it
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  Speaker 1: say here? Donald Trump predicts eight or nine champions championship fights.
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  Speaker 1: Uh okay, it would literally have to be every weight
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  Speaker 1: class fighting for the title, which would be nuts. Everyone
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: everyone's a championship fight. Everyone's a legendary type of fighter. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's actually holding back fights right now for six months,
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  Speaker 1: so you can do it in the fifteenth of June.
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  Speaker 1: Trump continued, uh, seemingly meaning fourteenth of June. Uh yeah, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: arena's gonna be five thousand or six thousand seats right
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  Speaker 1: in the front door of the White House, one hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand people in the back where they're putting up eight
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  Speaker 1: or ten very big screens. What kind of fucking security
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  Speaker 1: are they gonna have for this?
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  Speaker 4: Gotta be insane?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, are you trying to get on this? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: not really, not really.
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  Speaker 4: I I can't imagine, like you said, the security, the
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  Speaker 4: behind the scenes, how much stuff's really gonna happen. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of weird pressure too, because it's like all the security
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  Speaker 1: and the protocols, all that extra ship in your mind
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  Speaker 1: before you have to go out there and fight.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it just seems like a lot, like a lot
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  Speaker 4: more than what it needs to be. I'm sure it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be cool to watch, you know, kind of like
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  Speaker 4: what was that? Uh yeah, kind of cool to watch
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 1: But also you're fighting outside, Yes.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I like. What are they gonna do? Put
• 2:37
  Speaker 4: a roof over it? Like what happens toff?
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: What if it's hot and muggy? That's gonna affect people.
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  Speaker 4: I've watched them do outside fights in Louisiana.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: Oh God, Louisiana is the You can cut that air.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta see everyone's slipping and sliding.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: It's so human. That's terrible. Did you ever see that
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: King of the Cage fight that they did where it
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: was raining.
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  Speaker 4: I've seen the highlight of it, but I never watched
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  Speaker 4: the whole.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was King of the Cage wet and wild
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: and it rained out. This was in the day when
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: we used to have to put on fights at Indian casinos.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Eddie Brabbot was doing the commentary back then,
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  Speaker 1: and they it rained out, and so they were like,
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: what do you guys want to do? And everybody's like, well,
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: we want to get paid, so I guess we have
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  Speaker 1: to fight. So they fought in the fucking rain. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it was crazy, because how you do that. I
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: don't remember what the canvas was made out of. It
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  Speaker 1: might have been slick. It might have been like a
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  Speaker 1: vinyl camp. It might it might not have been like
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  Speaker 1: a canvas like the UFCS canvas, which is actual canvas.
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  Speaker 1: It might have been like a jiu jitsu matt type situation, which.
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  Speaker 4: Was in Louisiana with the humans. I can't imagine the rain.
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  Speaker 4: The rain's got to be crazy pouring.
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  Speaker 1: It was pouring down on people. See if you can
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  Speaker 1: find some highlights of King of the Cage wet and wild.
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  Speaker 4: It's got to be worse than blood on the canvas,
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  Speaker 4: blood on the vinyl, right, yeah, it has to be
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  Speaker 4: the worst, just doesn't stop.
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  Speaker 1: Just how bad are those fucking logos? Did the logos
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  Speaker 1: get problematic when they get wet in the middle, Yeah,
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the octagon. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: hear it is. Yeah, look at that. Look at that
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  Speaker 1: that is like that looks it's hard to tell what
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  Speaker 1: it actually is, but it looks like like vinyl. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: These guys are fighting with shoes on, which helps a little.
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  Speaker 1: You see, this is back when there was like zero rules.
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  Speaker 4: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Look at these these guys are barefoot. Look these guys
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  Speaker 1: sliding around. This is so crazy. They throw bunches and slipping.
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  Speaker 1: This is like a total like like Whinos liquor store.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine everyone didn't know it was raining. Like, man, you
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  Speaker 4: got rocked like thirty times? No, bro, I didn't get.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Rocked, right, how do you judge? Like what shots do damage?
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: This is like so silly. Oh look they got a
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  Speaker 1: guy come out here with us a thing to slide
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  Speaker 1: the water off the side. Yeah, that's not helping. This
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  Speaker 1: is so crazy they're doing this. Look the fighters are helping.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: The fighters are moving towels around. Is so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: You get an extra thirty seconds break if you wipe
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  Speaker 4: off the canvas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's funny. That's funny. Yeah, So who knows
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  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I guess they'll probably have to have
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  Speaker 1: some sort of a roof over it. But what if
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: it's like ninety eight degrees.
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  Speaker 4: Outside, it's gonna be crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's June in Baltimore or in Maryland. Rather and you
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  Speaker 1: know d C. Yeah, whatever that is. It's like d
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  Speaker 1: C is, it's not even a state. DC gets hot,
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: it gets hot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, summer, it's gonna be crazy. Yeah. I always wonder
• 5:29
  Speaker 4: like how much behind the scenes where it goes into,
• 5:31
  Speaker 4: like for the sphere, for example, because obviously they have
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  Speaker 4: everything else down to a science.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe redo that that's gonna be crazy. Abu Dhabi,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. We did a live one outdoor in Abu Dhabi.
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: I remember that. That was when bj fought Frankie Edgar Wow. Yeah.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: And Anderson, God, Damian Maya, Damian Maya. That's right, that's right. Oh,
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: that's right. That was. That was like Damien Anderson and
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: Damien had real beef, and so Soon was like yelling
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: at him in the first round, trying to kill him
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: in the first round, and then he kind of ran
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: out of gas and so you just kind of coasted
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  Speaker 1: for the remainder of the fight. And Dana was really
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: pissed because he just coasted and won a decision. Put
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: that back out there, I guess. But that wasn't good dude,
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: by the way. And Abu Dabi, they had these bugs
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: that were flying around the side of the small birds.
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  Speaker 1: It was. It was crazy. I was like, this is
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: because you know, you're in the desert. It's very weird,
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  Speaker 1: very weird having an outdoor fight in the desert.
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  Speaker 4: It's like mosquitos in Louisiana. Man, they come out of
• 6:32
  Speaker 4: there and swamp water and I don't know what they're doing,
• 6:34
  Speaker 4: but they're huge.
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  Speaker 1: Well, back in the day, they used to have fights
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  Speaker 1: like that in Vegas. They used to have boxing matches
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  Speaker 1: outside Caesar's palace. Used to have them outside. Yeah, even
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: find some of those, uh, I know. I think like
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  Speaker 1: they had some good fights outside, like some World championship
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  Speaker 1: fights that were outside Caesar's Palace.
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  Speaker 4: I think it'd be cool to say you did, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I want to do it at this level.
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: He does go close, close, Brenda Allen, you're knocking at
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  Speaker 1: the door, dude, you're right there, You're right there.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy. I just saw Jemaiah made a post today
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  Speaker 4: saying that he's he's only gonna do one more at
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  Speaker 4: eighty five and then he's going up what Yeah, my
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  Speaker 4: wife said he's going to.
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  Speaker 1: Go to two of five.
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  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: She translated for me. It was in Portuguese.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at this, that's Caesar Spouse.
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  Speaker 3: Dang.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I never knew that never.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, they had big fights there too. Look at
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  Speaker 1: how big that is. Oh my god, that's so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But again, Vegas outside must be so hot.
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  Speaker 4: It has to be that dry heat is something that's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine being all the way in the back of that thing.
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  Speaker 4: You ain't seeing nothing. They don't got no screen up
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  Speaker 4: for the TV or nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Who is that right there? Who is there? Oh, Tommy
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  Speaker 1: Hearns fought there, Bro Tommy Hearns. Berto Durant was outside.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. In nineteen eighty four.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, that's where before my time.
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  Speaker 1: I get yeah, a way before. I guess that was.
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  Speaker 1: They probably didn't even have an arena back then that
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  Speaker 1: could keep those guys in it. I wonder when they
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: started putting arenas in Vegas.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 1: It was probably it probably started for those big boxing matches. Yeah, Perplexity, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: as Perplexity our sponsor. When did they start putting an
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: arena in Vegas? I wisa say ninety because I think
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: Vegas in the beginning was just all about gambling and
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: if there was a show, it was at a showroom
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: in Vegas. Like you know, if you went to see
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Sinatra or something like that. It was probably just a
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: couple thousand people. Probably wasn't that big.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy to see it, like how Vegas is growing,
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  Speaker 4: like even like before my time, I see pictures. But
• 8:44
  Speaker 4: even since, like I thought, what amateur worlds in Vegas?
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't even old enough to go into casino. So
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: they had to like walk me around in the Flamingo.
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: I believe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. It couldn't go in the casino and
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  Speaker 1: do nothing.
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  Speaker 4: If I walked on the floor, they were on me.
• 8:58
  Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I don't how old.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Eighteen, Oh wow.
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: Seventeen eighteen, No, eighteen, yeah, eighteen, about ten nineteen, and man,
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  Speaker 4: they were on me. I'm talking about like they must
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: have had a watch on me. I stepped on the
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: floor just to go across to get like to the
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  Speaker 4: drink machine.
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  Speaker 1: M well, that was probably a big concern that if
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: you have underage competitors and then they're wandering around the casino,
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: they could lose their license.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because we stayed at the link it was brand
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  Speaker 4: new at the time, and then we walked across to Flamingo.
• 9:26
  Speaker 4: We fought there every every time until the finals. The
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: finals was in the UFC Expo in the middle of
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: the expo, which was cool because they had like the
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame ceremony going on. You were there, I
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: seen you. Yeah, yeah, so it was cool. But uh yeah,
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: it's crazy just to see it from there till till now,
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: like how much it's growing and change and wow, it's
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: pretty crazy.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: Like when did you first start training? How old were you?
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  Speaker 4: Thirteen?
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  Speaker 1: And what did you start with jiu jitsu?
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: I didn't even like really mean to to be honest, Like,
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: I was playing football. I love football, and my brother
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: came home because he switched schools and his friend was like, hey,
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: you want to do you soon. We was watching you know,
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: UFC on the weekends. I was like Randy Cotur, Chuck
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: Ladell Trilogy, all those guys. So we watched them on
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: the weekends and he asked. So we went there and
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: looked and I was still playing football with football season,
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: and but I was like, you want to try it.
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: I was like I watched the class and I was like, Dad,
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: I want to do it, and he's like, okay, we'll
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: go use the trial g I was like, Dad, I
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: don't want to borrow ge, can we keep buy me?
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: When my parents didn't have much money were my dad
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: was just starting to do okay for himself at that point.
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: He's like, if I buy you this, gee, I promise
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: you for the rest of the year, you're coming three
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: times a week at least. I was like, yes, sir.
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: So it started and never looked back. A couple months later,
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: my brother and my dad joined me and we did
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: it all together for a little while. Then my brother
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: found girls and he went his way. So, yeah, it's
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: been a long time.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: That's derailed a lot of young prospects.
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: It definitely got him, It definitely got him. Man, bad
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: life took him elsewhere, and I don't know luckily I stayed.
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: He would have been better than me though.
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: He was a lot tougher and yeah, but it's as
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: the older brother. It's usually the younger brother that winds
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: up being the real good fighter. Yeah, he goes the
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: young that's the thing. That's the thing you learned resilience.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: You learn how to be the nail, you know, and
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: the older brother oftentimes is too comfortable being the hammer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but my dad would put him in his place.
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: So luckily he was used to being in hal a
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: little bit too. You know, my dad's a big man.
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: So yeah, man, life is crazy.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: So when did you start striking?
• 11:28
  Speaker 4: Well, my dad box when he was younger and his
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: his grandfather taught him how to box, and he was
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: like he did something like one like a golden gloves
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: in the military or something back when they had like
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: the boxing gloves that were made like horse hair.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So he taught my dad to box, and so
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: my box. My dad box in high school. So he
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: was kind of teaching me a little stuff here and
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: there growing up. But you know how it is, man
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: who listens to their father. Now I look back and
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I wish I would have listened more,
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: and I say stuff that he was like, what I
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: tell you ten years ago, you know. But I started
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: striking probably like fifteen, maybe fifteen and a half somewhere
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: around there. But it was all grown men back then,
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: especially where I came up at. There's no like beginner's
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: classes orthing like that. And these guys are twenty four,
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: twenty five, twenty six. I mean there's been a couple
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: of times, man, I got hit and I thought my
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: jaw was broken. I start crying, I mean like smack,
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: and it was just like I couldn't open my mouth.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: And that's the problem with a lot of boxing gyms
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  Speaker 1: in particular, is that when new guys come in, they
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: just beat them up. Yeah they did.
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: They beat me up.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: They don't. They don't box you like spar you. Rather
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: they fight you, and they know how to fight and
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: you don't know how to fight.
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: You know. One of my best friends who was with
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: me like I started with him, was Kurt Holliba and
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: him and Dustin Poier were the two biggest where we
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: were from at that time. So I remember Tim Crater
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: reached out to Kurt crazy Tim Yeah, and he was like, hey,
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: why don't y'all come smart? We got Dustin. I think
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: Dustin was just about to go to WC or he was.
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: He was right around there at that time, so like,
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: let's go, KURTZ want to go, Yeah, let's go. So
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: I go over there for sparing and I'm sparring this guy.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Man. He had to be like.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: Five foot one, like he was tiny short and h
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: Kurt goes with Dustin and I'm sitting here trying to
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: watch them go because I mean they're throwing, they're fighting,
• 13:16
  Speaker 4: they're not sparring. And this guy's hit me and I'm like,
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: get off me, like trying to watch. And the same
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: day like so we sparred like I don't know, four
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: or five rounds. It was nice and then and I'm
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: only like fourteen fifteen years old at this time. And
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: then it would start on the ground in your guard
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: and I go with Dustin because everyone like said my
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: jiu jitsu was good. It was for that time, but
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: I was still just a kid.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: Dude.
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  Speaker 4: He hit me so hard when they said literally when
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: they said go, it was like boom right in my mouth.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I guess this is what
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: we're doing. I hurried up and grabbed and try to
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: sweep and all that kind of stuff. But man, I
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: never forget that moment to this day. Like last time
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: I turned with Dustin, I was like, hey, that time
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: you beat me up, Like I'm not little no more.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: You' three week clocks.
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: So, like I see all the guys like that, there's
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: one guy in particular. If I see him, I told
• 14:06
  Speaker 4: everyone I'm whooping his ass. One guy you don't name him,
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: his name's j Mart. Oh, okay, great guy, nice guy,
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: but training. I never forget the day he hit me
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: so hard and thought my jaw was broken. I'm like
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: and I was little, Like now I'm a grown man.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: It is so hard to find like reasonable sparring. It's
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: so hard to find people that are like willing to
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: not hit you full blast and like preserve each other,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, we're all in this together. You
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: help me, I help And if you can get that,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: my god, you progress so much faster if you're in there.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Just there's something to be said for going through the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: fire and understand what it's like to be in a
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: war with guys. But there's something also to be said
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: for like learning how to recover and like having more
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: training sessions and not getting concussions all the time.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like Sean Jordan was the first to tell
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: me that was like, uh, he came and trained and obviously,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: you know, Sean's huge, super athletic guy, heavyweight, you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: and I'm talking about I watched him and this other
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: big man they were sparn and they was literally like
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: touching each other. So I asked him after because everyone
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: else is fighting and I'm like, man, what how come
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: you don't spar so hard? He looked at me and
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: started laughing. He's like running At this time, I think
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: he was like two seventy somewhere around there, and he's like,
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: I'm two hundred and seventy pounds. I fought some of
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: the biggest guys, like biggest names in the world at
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: the time. He's like, I know how to fight. If
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: I if I go full blast or he goes full blast,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: one of us is gonna get hurt and then we're
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: not gonna fight anymore. Like we're not gonna We're not
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: gonna make money for our family. So I always took
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: that in and obviously I'm not like a huge guy
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: like they were. But it's like, even like when I
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: was training in Florida, I knew when me and RoboCop
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: go we're fighting, Like I know it.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: That guy's scary. You know both, you both you guys, Like,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: how the fuck are you making one hundred and eighty
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: five pounds and you're on a smaller side in comparison
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: to him.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, it's my weight cuts way harder than his,
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: is it. Yeah, he walks, dude. Surprisingly, I asked him
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: before because he has you know, he has a great
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: like physique. Right, he's a big guy. When I see him, like, bro,
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: how much you wait? He's like, oh, like two of five.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I said, no way, no way. He's like, I'll step
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: on the scale right now, steps on the scale two
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: of six.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, no way, I got bird bones. That
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't even make.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Any sense, no idea. I thought the same thing. But me,
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I step on the scale. I mean right now, I'm
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: probably like two twenty five. But I haven't done nothing
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: since I fought. But I stay around two fifteen to twenty.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: And I'm the runt of my family, so like my
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: body wants to get bigger. But I'm like, uh, I
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: got unfinished business here. So yeah, Joe's Joe's a big
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: eighty five or Joe Piper.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's he has a hard cut. He's huge.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: He has a hard cut. That's what I'm like. When
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: he gets yeah, like, Nichole is that guy?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: How is that guy won eighty five? Due? When I
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: stand next to him, I'm like, how same? I can't
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: believe he walks around two of five because that doesn't
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: even make sense.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: That's what I've seen him. Man, Hey, if it's a
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: lot of guys strike me down now because I think
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: that scale he might well, we were all using it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: He probably had heels on the ground there he was.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I was super surprised. My boy too, Co was with me.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: We were all in the room. I was like, because
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I called him out on everyone else wouldn't say it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, was it after training?
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: After training?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, and both of you after training.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But and it wasn't a hard day like that
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: day was not a hard day like we weren't like sweat.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like a five six pound practice day. It
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: was a pretty chill day.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Indeed, week surprised. If he was only two eleven, I'd
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: be surprised, dude.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: But I know like when he had on other fights. Uh,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: he was a little bit bigger because he wanted to be.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't understand. But still that you know, but Joe,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I think, well the ridder probably has to be the
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: biggest eighty five.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Or like he's enormous. He was.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: He was bigger than I expected. And I seen him,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: but I like in the gym, I never went close
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: to him because I wrote with him like one time
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: in a in a quick thing. It was like a
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: minute long, but like still, I was surprised when when
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: we stepped in there, like we step up to each
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: other's face all and I was like, I was affecting
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: to be a little bit bigger. I don't know, maybe
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I'll make everyone bigger in my head. But he was
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: really long, Like even when we stood next to each other,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: his hands felt like they touched his knees. I was like,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: all right, it's gonna be interesting.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was surprised when when I first met him
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: in the UFC, when he first came over, I was like,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: because I saw him fighting one and I knew he
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: fought it. I believe he fought at two o five
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and eighty five over there right right, And when I
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: saw him, I was like, how fuck are you making
• 18:26
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  Speaker 4: They were worried about that when he came over because
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: he never made a real true eighty five because you know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: they have the hydration hydration so he can weigh in
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: it two a four but fully hydrated, and they still
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: know how to finesse that like, I just learned, like
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: how they finesse that, how they finesse that. So they
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: drink a whole bunch of water and then they go
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: They don't pee, they don't do nothing. They drink that
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: water and then go cut the weight. It's days in
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: their stomach. So when they piss, piss it out, it's clear,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: it's all good. So they they test that hydration. They
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: test that they're hydrated, but they're really not. They already
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: went sweat out a whole bunch. So they drink it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: They just hold it. That's all the guys do it.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Some guys mess it up, but that's the majority how
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: everyone does it. And so they so you just.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Drink a whole ton of water and just hold your
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: piss as long as possible.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they make sure like they probably drink like two
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: cups and then they're just gonna hold and then they'll
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: go cut for like an hour like sweat sweat, sweat, sweat, sweat.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: And then they say that when they show up to
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: the hydration, that's I've heard that from like four people
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: that have done it, and they said, yeah, bro, I
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: learned from this guy, and I learned from this guy.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I was like Wow.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I interested that. I there had to be some sort
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of a catch too.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And they say it's a lot. It's more unhealthy
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: than like cutting weight over here to like really make
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: the weight. Because I don't know. I'm not a scientist
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: or a doctor, but they my friends that are into
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: all that stuff forre like explaining like how it works.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: And I was like, man, that's crazy. But he was
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: a guy that never made a true one eighties. They
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: were worried, and then he did. And I know, like
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I know for a fact he's come in. I don't
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: know what he came in on my fight week, but
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I think the one before that, he came in Monday.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I believe it two ten to ten to fight week.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: So I was like, shit, I come in at two
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: of six and I'm stressing. I'm like, ah, two or
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: three's like my number.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that contributes to the fact that he gases. Yeah,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I just I think it's just too much of a strain.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And he's he's talked kind of vaguely, not not real
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: clearly about problems that he's had with his health, and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I've got to think that has to do
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: with weight cuts. Yeah, so many guys have kidney problem
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: for sure, for sure.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: And it's weird because like in the fight with him,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: like I knew, like in the first round to feel
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: like obviously adrenaline's flow and everything, so even everything's intensified, right,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: so I could feel how tight he was squeezing. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: mean he was squeezing like his legs everything he was
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: trying to where I couldn't move. So I just make
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: little adjustments and make can move a little bit. He'd
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: punch it very rarely, but I was like, there's impossible.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: It's impossible for you to keep this up for twenty
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: five minutes.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: It's impossible.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: I know you're not gonna do it, so just bide
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: my time. Plus I didn't want to guess either because
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: it was short for me, short notice, five five rounds.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: You know, there's a little worry somebody. I knew he couldn't.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I knew we couldn't, and I like, we did a
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: lot of prep for him specifically, and we saw the
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Russian that he fought in one, and I was like,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: we had our game plan before we watched it, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: then we watched it was like here we go. Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: that's why everyone asked me, like what's gonna happen. I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: gonna break him. He's tough. He is tough, but you know, like.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Well, if he comes out with that mentality, if he's
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: trying to go full blast on the first round in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: a five round fight, like wee right, exactly, nobody could
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: really do that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I told the guys, like because obviously
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: he trains where I was training, and they all knew,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: they all know me, you know, so it's like if
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: you think you're gonna come out here in it, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: he's in his interviews like I'm a front runner, I'm
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: not good long, but I approach a three round fight
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: differently than I approach a five round fight. So I
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: was like, all right, we'll see, and it kind of backfired.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Well, it was a big win for you. Thank you,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: huge win. You look fantastic in that fight. You know.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It's like there's just so many talented people in the division.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It's so hard to stand out. And sometimes, you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you take a guy like Deritter who just got done
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: stopping Bo Nickel and there's a lot of a lot
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: of momentum on his side. He looks real good. You
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: beat Kevin Holland submitted him looks real good and then
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you came along and stole that momentum. Yeah, it was.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: It was weird, to be honest, because like when he
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: got there, I was like, I want to fight him
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: just because like things of like he fought one of
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: my friends, which now I guess they're best friends, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: who was on se Okay, he took both his titles
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: from him, right, so like there was no animasy, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: it's like I want to test my your ground guy,
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: like I'm a ground guy. Let's let's see. And then
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: it happened. He got there to UFC, and I was like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: I want to fight him, like I was obviously I
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: think at the time I was like twelve ranked somewhere
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: around there. But I was like, let him get one
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: two and obviously his name's gonna carry him, you know.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: So that came and I'll never forget. I was leaving
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: an LSU game. I was in the parking lot. My
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: manager called and I was like, man, can we just
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: get a fight please? I've been asking for like three months,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: like please, I just want to fight because I'm very
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: like I get in this mode to where I just
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: want to fight and I don't. I'll just keep bugging him,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: bugging him. You want me to call Mick, you want
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: me to call like and he was like no, no, no, no,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: But anyway, so I stayed on him. He called me.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I was like, Hey, what about uh uh uh the Ritter.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: He was like, come on, man, he had just fought
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I think he beat Gerald. And he was like, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: think I can make this happen. He texted me back
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: a couple minutes. Hey, they're good to go. The next
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: day they called back and they were like, no, they're
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: not going to get the fight, Like they don't want
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: this fight. It's it's not the right time. I was like,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: all right, They're like, what about Fluffy. I was like,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I asked for him two months ago. So that's when
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: I ended up fighting Fluffy and it just so happened.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: He fought the bon Nickel got all that hype and
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Again. I was at an LSU practice and they called
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: me and they were like, hey, uh My manager called
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: me and he's like, I just want you to know
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Fluffy's out. I threw your name in the hat, but
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: you're not the front runner. It's Paulo Costa. He's the
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: front runner. But I'm pushing for you because I just
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: saw Paulo yesterday. I don't know how he's gonna make
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: eighty five in four weeks.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs a lot of time to make weight.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: He's another guy. Yeah, do you think that it could
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: ever be possible for guys to just fight without cutting weight?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be But wouldn't that be better?
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: It would be nice?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Just wouldn't it be better, like overall for everybody?
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I think so? Yeah, for sure.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Like here's like if everybody just was honest about what
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: they actually weigh, you know, like find let's find out
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: what everybody actually weighs when you're in shape, like when
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: you're ready to fight, and make a contract to fight
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: it that weight. Because this whole weight cutting thing is
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: just legalized cheating.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: It's it's so hard, and some guys are so good
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: at it, you know, Like how a Perreira, Dude, I
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: don't know how he made eighty five.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: He would weigh two twenty six when he would fight
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: for the one hundred and eighty five pound title. Crazy,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't even make any sense.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I don't get how you can put on that much weight.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: The most I ever put on was this last fight.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I was two or seven, Bro, he gained forty something pounds.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: I don't get it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Forty pounds in a day.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: Blows my mind.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: What does it feel like? Like? What is it? Do
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you ry?
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: I always wonder that because like this one was. This
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: was tough for me. One month full diet like I
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: don't usually have, like, you know, a couple of cheats
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: and ease into the diet like I'm starting to do
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: now because I'm hoping to fight in March, so I'm
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: already gonna start, you know, being cleaner and stuff.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Are you concerned though, that you could get another of
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: those last minute calls? Like do you think like that?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Like to not get too heavy? Because if so many
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: calls and says, hey, the big paramount card, somebody fell out,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it's January, can you fight?
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I think where I'm at, it would have to be
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: like an interim title or something like that. Outside of
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: that right now, Plus like the reason I'm so big
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: and I was out, like I had fractures in my foot,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: so I had to you know.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Did you have fractures on your foot from the fight
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: or just you had them before in the fight? Oh god?
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which we didn't know. I just knew it hurt
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: like and to be honest with you, like I had
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: them before the fight before that, but I didn't know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Like I was just like, man, it hurts, like I
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: thought it was just like a muscle. So I just
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: would roll it out. They're gonna like, you know, that's
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: what that was what I would do.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: How many fractures.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: They said they saw three, but they're small. It was
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: like different like rate where like the toe meets to
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: base your foot.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, is it from elbows?
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't It was on my lead
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: foot too, so I was like, I don't even know,
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: Like I don't teep a lot because I'm scared of
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: like stuff like that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I fought with crazy stuff.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: I tore my whole like acl in half everything when
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: I fought Paul Craig. Did you really Yeah, when that
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: cap slicer in half, it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Just blew your a cl out.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, I didn't know. So like in the second round,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: when I go to throw the punch, I think it
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: was dominant cruise. He was like, oh, they clipped each
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: other and they showed the replay and it hits my hand.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: He never hit like my face or anything.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: But your just buckled. Yeah, it gave and.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: You can see me reach down to my knee in
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: that moment. It was crazy. So afterwards we got that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: But I was lucky. Like when it healed, it it
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: like it fell to the bone, like if they attached
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: like up up here. Mine just reattached here. So I
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: just have a little bit more play and it's still
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: attached luckily.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, that's how you never got surgery. Never.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I was very lucky, insane. There's like three different MRIs
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: that show like fine torn, half rehealed.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So it was a partial tale.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: No, they told me in half, it cut in half
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: and then like fell and when it fell, I got
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: lucky and it fell on the bone just lower at
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: a lower point and it healed on me. Fuse to
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: the bone itself.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yes. How long did it take to do that? I
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: The doctor said it could it says it looked like
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: it was torn maybe like a slight tear before and
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: that one finished it. And the last MRI was probably
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: four or five months ago because I had to get
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: it for something else. Fuse to the bone perfect. You
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: can see it clear as day. The doctor showed me.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I was like, that's pretty cool.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Did you get stem cells or anything on it? Yeah?
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: I did. I did. I did do a lot of
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: stem cells like through the UFC and stuff they sent.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Me that that probably helped itj No, they sent it
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: to my doctor. They just sent it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: It was nice and they just sent a whole bunch.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Like my doctor was like, man, look how much they sent.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know what it's for us
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: to look like, let's go, so we injected that. But yeah, man,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I fight with all crazy stuff because it's like I
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: That's the thing that people need to realize that watch
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: nobody fights at or very few people, very very rarely.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: And I just don't know how to how to pull.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Like I've never pulled from one knock on wood. I
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: haven't pulled on one fight in my career, and I've
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: been pretty pretty messed up. I think my worst was
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: when I fought Eme evolved. To be honest, physically, I
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: was like like as far as like how my body
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: was was pretty good, but I didn't realize like how
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: much of a toll because I like have a thyroid
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: problem and I went years without getting it checked, and
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: for like a while I was feeling like real sluggish,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: real tired, no sex drive, nothing like. I didn't want
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: to get out of bed. And my weight was just
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: steady going up. For the first time in my life
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: at that point, I hit two twenty and I was like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: what is going on? Like, I'm still training, I'm eating
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: clean and anyway. I went to a specialist in Florida
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: and they tested everything like T three, T four and
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: I never had T three checked ever, and it was
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: like seven times the normal value whatever that was supposed
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: to be. I have it on a paper whatever. They
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: gave me that and they were like, hey, man, I'm
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: gonna let you know.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I was fighting in three, three or four weeks in
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: France and they were like, hey, this is gonna take
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: a month and a half, two months to regulate and
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: fully settle out. I was like, I don't got that
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: kind of time. Just give me enough to where my
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: weight will come down because I wasn't losing anything. They're like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: it's gonna do that. Don't worry. Within a week or two,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: that's gonna happen. I'm still pretty tired, but I just
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: kept pushing. We get to We went to London first,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: stayed there a week because it was cheaper for us
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: than going to France because he had my friend had
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: family there. Then we went to France and then I
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: was still feeling like tired. That was the first camp
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: in my life. I couldn't do more than two and
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: a half rounds the whole camp. Really, I by Singer
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: was the only person that I had to train with.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Greg was hurt. Other guys were out, so I had
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Bysinger every day. I paid him to train with me
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: every day whenever I wanted sparring anything and ask him.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I do good for the first round, halfway through the second.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: After that I was dead, like dead. And I'm still
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: hitting my runs, my lists every training session like I'm
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: doing everything normal. But man, it was terrible. So the
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: fight comes and they the commission kind of like did
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: super weird stuff like I made weight and then like,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: oh youre getting drug tested. I'm like, okay, no problem.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, no, You're gonna get drug tested now,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: not the night of the fight like normal. I was
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: like what I was like, I literally just cut weight,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: like I don't got a pee, I'm just now drinking fluid.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: They're like, doesn't matter, you can go to your room.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, I'll wait for a couple
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: of minutes. I waited for like ten minutes. I was like,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: hey man, I'm just gonna go to my room try
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: to sleep. And they were like, uh no, we don't
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: have enough people. You need to stay here. I stayed
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: there for two hours. They did finally at Peeed, just
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: barely Peede, and they did two vials of blood and
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: they got mad because they did that one they put
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: on and press the gravity one and they couldn't get enough,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: like and they were like dehydrated. Exactly.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Do you think they were fucking with you because you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: were fighting in France against the French guy.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: It was me and Mory Kanna. We were the US
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: two and one other person American was that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: When Waikana was fighting Ben wats undernee.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, he bitched about the same thing, but.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Somehow he had we're fucking with you guys.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Them two were up sleeping in their room chilling.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Oh excuse it does not have to be excused. That's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: so dirty.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: It was frustrating. But that's why, like when I still
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: think he involves a cool guy, you know, like he's
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: deserved his title shot. I think He's fully earned it,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but I want to fight him
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: again where it's like I sparred him. Like a month
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: after that, he was at the gym and I showed
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: up at the gym and we sparred. We had a
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: good time. But I still think he's a nice guy.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I think he deserved a spot. But I just want
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: to fight him where everything's right equal and like you said,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: we're not going to come in one hundred percent, he's not.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not fine. I don't care if I got a
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: messed up hand, foot, whatever, but just an equal plate.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Like well, it just sounds like you were a compromised. Look,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: that's a good example. That was peoter Jan's first fight
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: with Morob Man.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: He looked great this week.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Fuck what a master class. He looked great. Surprised when
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you're going to fight a guy like Morob like that
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: is the master class put on a clinic.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: I didn't, honestly, like, I didn't think he was gonna
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: be able to do that for five rounds. I thought
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: you'd have one maybe maybe Max too, And I thought
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Morab was just gonna do what Morob does. I was
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: so wrong.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: His training camp must have been hell had to had
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to be hell had to. I mean he must have
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: done something. I mean it looked like it. I saw
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: some videos of it. He was doing some wild strength
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and conditioning and pliometrics, and he knew what he was
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: in for. That's the thing. If you're gonna fight a
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: guy like Marab, it's like, you know what the mountain
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is ready to climate for sure. And the first time
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they fought, apparently he had a fucked up right hands
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and he couldn't grapple with it and he couldn't throw
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: punches with it. So I rewatched the fight. After he
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: said that, I was like, Oh, he's barely using it,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like barely using his right sense right totally makes sense.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And then also psychologically, if you only got one hand,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that everything now you have to think. You know, you
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: can't really throw combinations. You have to I want to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: know how tough you Ryan. Favor is your favor. When
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: he fought Mike Brown, he broke both hands bolt hands.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I remember that, and he was throwing elbows bolt hands.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: He was one of my favorite fighters. I'll never he
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: He was a guy that I wanted to be just
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: like I. Even you could ask my dad, he'll laugh
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: to this day. I was like, Dad, I don't want
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: to be like my dad's tall. Everyone's t I don't
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: want to be tall. I want to be like him.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: He was like what, Because that was the fight.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: He was a beast. He was a beast back in
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the day. You know. By the time he was fighting
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: in the UFC, I kind of think he had had
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: some of his best fights already, Like in the w
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: C days, he was a killer er. The Mike Brown
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: coming out party. Jos Aaldo has another example of how
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: tough he is when he fought jose Aldo, and Josey
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Aldo killed his leg. Dude killed his leg. It is
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the worst after fight leg I've ever seen in my life,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: other than Austin Hubbard. You ever see Austin Hubbard. He
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: got a compartment syndrome and had to have his whole
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: legs sliced open from the top to the bottom to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: alleviate pressure and drain some of the fluids. No, it's
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the nastiest injury I've ever seen. I'm a Google excuse me,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: look up Austin Hubbard images of I forget the fight.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Oh there it is. Look at his leg, That that
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: black thing that's his leg. Open. No, yeah, that's his tissue.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my days, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look at that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how insane is that.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: He trains in Chicago with me?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: When I ask him look.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: At that image? How fucking insane is that image? That's
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: his tissue underneath there? Man? Oh my, look, you have
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: to like mature content. You have to click a link
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: in Instagram to be able to see it. Holy cow,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: how nuts is that man's So there's a drain, that
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: tube that you're seeing right there, that what that is
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: attached to, is that drain that's letting liquid drip out
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: of his legs. So compartment syndrome is so bad that
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: sometimes people, when they don't get it treated, they have
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to get their leg amputated. Really. Oh yeah, so that
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: was just from leg kicks from a fight, Just from
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: leg kicks from a fight. I'm trying to remember who
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: he fought. Jesus, can we find out who he fought
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: than a year ago?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: This picture and twenty five weeks ago?
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the fight was more than a year ago.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: It was quite a while ago.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: Well, what is it like like a big bruiser.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Twenty five weeks ago? Oh, three hundred three hundred and
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: twenty five weeks ago. Yeah, so it was quite a
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: while ago. But I see, if you find out who
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you fought.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Boy, it's just like your your leg just stays like
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: bruised and swollen and like not just.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Bruised, like your tissue breaks down, it fills up with
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: fluid and yeah, and then also what happens, I guess
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: when you get that much damage and your tissue is
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: like your whole body has to process all all of that.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: So it was Kyle properly, like I don't remember that,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: and so it was UFC Vancouver elevator passed down and elevated.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: How'd you rushed to the hospital.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: It's crazy. I never knew that. Yeah, see him at
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: the gym all the time. He's a nice guy.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: So they had to cut his leg open to reduce
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: the pressure. So that's that images damn nuts. That is crazy,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah as nuts. And then your Yah's leg, honestly, in
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the fight looked worse than that. I mean you Oryah
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: might have had compartment syndrome and didn't get it dreamed
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: because I know he spent a lot of time in
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: hyper bearer chambers after the fight.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: I want to try that it's great. I want to
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: try that.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: It's really amazing. If you have an or ring and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: you go into the hyperbaric chamber, it will tell you
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that you're recovered more really yeah than a normal day. Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: oh you have a high level of recovery today. Yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try that for sure, legit. Yeah.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: All my friends have been like like Jared Gordon like
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: got one for one of his fights and he was
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: telling me like how different it makes him feel and stuff.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Like For me, as far as I go, it's like
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I just started like really like using more supplements. Like
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: I think the deal that Thorn made with UFC really
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: helped me. It's like I started using there and what
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: really helped us. I was always scared to go on
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: creating because like growing up, my dad to get so
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: big and he would like back in the day, they'd
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: have like all these different things like off use too
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: much creating, it's bad for you, bad for your kidneys
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: That's bullshit exactly is fantastic.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: And that's that's been like the main thing I can
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: really feel, like how how different my body recovers, like
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: how more almost energized in a way, you know, I
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: wake up and like when I go to lyft and stuff,
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I feel like way better.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So, like what's even great for your mind? Creatine is
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: fantastic just for cognitive support.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I need everything for that because I've been getting hit
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: in the head since I was thirteen years old, so
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: you know, yeah, it don't sometimes it don't function properly,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: you know, I have to. It's funny. Me and my
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: wife are just joking the other day. We're like, I
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: was like, baby, you do that on purpose, don't she
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: She's like what I was like, you try to use
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: memory against me. You'll wait till I forget something and
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, remember you said this, And I'm like,
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't say that. I have to die on that
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: hill because it's.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Like I remember, but I'll tell her that.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: You know. I'm just like, no, I didn't. I know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I didn't you know. So but yeah, that was a
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: great relationship to help. Like you know, UFC's done like
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: a lot of like made a lot of good partnerships.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: It's helped like athletes, but for me personally, like the
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: thorn relationship makes great stuff.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're so tested. If you get in a
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: hyperbaric chamber, that'll it'll help your memory as well. Hyperbaric
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: chamber is just good for overall recovery for everything. There's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: even a study out of Jerusalem it shows that lengthens telomeres.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: They did this process where they had you took sixty
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: sessions of ninety minutes over the course of ninety days,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: so sixty hour and a half sessions of the course
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: of ninety days, and it showed it lengthened people's telomeres.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: That was really Yeah, that was equal to a twenty
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: age difference. So yeah, twenty year age difference. So it's
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: like your telomeres as you get older. That's like one
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: of the clear marks of biological aging is how long
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: your telomeres are. Yeah, it indicates you know, like as
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: you get older, they shrink, and the only there's a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: few things that they've shown that will increase telomeres, but
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: nothing as dramatically that I've ever heard other than the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: hyperbaric chamber. That was probably the best one I've ever
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: heard of.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I've been like trying to learn more about
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: recovery because I'm kind of.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Like, how I'll be thirty in a couple of weeks. Yeah,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: that's when you gotta start thinking about it. Twenty two
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you're just a wild man. Wake up in the morning
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: with rock hard boners, Like everything's fine.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: You just show out to training. You don't even stretch. Now,
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, wait a minute, guys, wait a minute.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: The thing is, even if you're twenty two, you should stretch.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: That's just smithful ignorance. God it so there's so many
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: guys that can't. I remember I was talking to I
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: don't want to say his name because he's a good guy,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: but he's like a world class MMA fighter and I
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: was trying to show him something we're talking about, like
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: guard technique, and he's like, I can't. I'm not flexible.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I can't get my leg like that. And I go,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: what do you mean you're not flex I go, why
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: aren't you flexible? It goes, I'm not. I don't stretch.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I go, how do you not stretch? You're a world
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: class fighter who tries to kick people in the head
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and you don't stretch. That's so crazy. He's like, it's boring.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, yeah, a lot of things are boring
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: like that that you don't stretch is so crazy, because
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: like anytime someone says, I'm not flexible. I'm like, how
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: do you know? Right? You know, like you don't know
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: if you're flexible until you start stretching for a long
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: fucking time. You can get flexible. It's like I don't
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: have any cardio. Well you can get cardio. That's a choice.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: Fucking work, Get do cardio and you'll have cardio. This
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: is crazy flexible. Yeah, but it's like i'd never stopped.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: But I started when I was little. I developed flexibility
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: while my body was still maturing, which is very fortunate
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: because you're not like stiff yet. It's like, you can
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: get flexible, right, But.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: It's I'm fifty eight years old. It's not easy to
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: stay flexible. I just keep fucking stretching.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: I'm old, a shit, dude, I didn't know that my dad.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: I'm old, dude, Thank you.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I keep up. I'm scared of death. I'm not scared
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: of death. Death is inevitable. What I'm scared of is
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: being feeble, like where you can't do things anymore. You
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: can't go on a hike, you can't use your body like.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I work out just as hard now as I did
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: when I was thirty.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I make my wife always worried because I'm like, uh,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't honestly know if I mean
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: it or not. I'm like, I don't want to be
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: eight years old, like for instance, like.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: You kind of not say things like that around ladies.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't like it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: She's like, she's like that I need you, like we're
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: a team. And I'm like, hey, look what I do
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: for a living. Look what I've done, Like my body's
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: not like that, like you know, and like, I don't know.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe I say that, but then like I get out
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: of working out for like I haven't worked out like
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: two months, and I'm like, I'm itching like a freaking fiend.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I'm like, so when you say I haven't worked out,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: like you don't do anything for.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Two months, I haven't done anything. I went in the
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: gym twice. I went in the gym twice. I did
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: one run in one lift, and then we found out
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: my foot had fractures and they sent me this foot
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: boot and then the doctors like, you don't have to
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: wear that, but don't do anything that puts a lot
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: of pressure on your foot. An then I've been traveling,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: like at the end of the year, I travel a
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: lot going hunting and stuff, and you know, like like
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: like you meet eater thing, like yep, I love that
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff. So I'm not on that big of
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: a scale and that nice of like animals. I'm just
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: like just a simple white tail kind of guy.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: But you know, I hunt.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I love it. I got little property in Illinois, and.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Oh that's great, man. So I can't believe that you
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: could take a whole couple of months off with nothing,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: just don't do.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Nothing, crazy, right, Yeah, I'm very blessed.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Well, it's probably smart. It's probably smart to do.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: It's good and bad.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: A few people do that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: It's good and bad. So like I only do it
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: this much at the end of the year because it's
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: hunting season and holidays, my kids birthdays and you know
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: kind of my kids' birthdays are right now or back
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: to well, shit, I guess all the time. They're back
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: to back to back. So it's like, all right, we'll
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: do that, we travel, but it's on the end of
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: the year. Usually I'll take a couple of weeks off,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: maybe a month max, depending on my injuries after a fight,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: but then I'm back at it. But it's hard for
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: me at home I'm a full time dad and a
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: full time husband at home right now, got so many kids,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm away for so many kids. I'm about
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: to have five.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, five and you're not even thirty yet.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I have two with my ex I'm about
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: to have two with my current wife. And she has
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: a son from her previous steps wow. Yeah, so and
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: he's fourteen. My daughter's just turned six and four, my
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: son's about to turn one, and then we'll have another
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: one about a month and a half.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So you got a lot of work to do.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's it's nice. It's hard right now. You know,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: kids have schedules and now, like my little girls do
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: jiu jitsu. My stepson was playing football for the first
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: time this year. And he's a basketball player because my
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: wife was a pro basketball player, and so he's aly
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: got something going on. But at my new house that
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: I'm working to build, I have like two gyms full gym,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: so like I don't have to leave.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: I could bring people in to train. I have my
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: full cage that I used to have for my promotion.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So even if you only realize only I only have
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: forty minutes before I have to leave what I can
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: get a half hour workout on real quick. And he's
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: really burning out for a half an hour just to
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: keep keep the machine oiled exactly. But you know the
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: argument about taking time off, it does reset the brain.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Like you know who used to do that. I know
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: he's not a fighter, but Ronnie, Ronnie Coleman is crazy.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: As he used to lift when he was mister Olympia
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and he was one of the heaviest lifters of all time.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, he would do freak. He's a freak Ronnie.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: When he would like get done with mister Olympia, he
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: would like, I'm not doing shit. He wouldn't do anything
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: for like a couple of months, like no training at all,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: and they'd be like nothing at all, you know, nothing nothing, Yeah,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: he goes, I gotta reset, got a reset. But imagine
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: being so driven that you could train the way that
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: guy trained, and yet so wise that you're like, I
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: get it back, let me just like, let me just chill.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Yet me just chill. And so it was something I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: could turned him into a lazy person, Like that's what
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: everyone's afraid of. Oh, I'm gonna lose this momentum. I'm
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: doing so good, everything's going so great. I'm working so hard.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I want to keep working hard because we've all had
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: If you will live a life, you're gonna have ups
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna have downs, And like you were going
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: through your thyroid issue, there's gonna be times where you
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: don't have a lot of energy. So when you're feeling good,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: you want to keep going right And this guy gets
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to mister Olympia, but he has the wisdom to go.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: You know what, I can get that back right now.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Let's just not do shit and let this let this
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: mind recover, let this stress just go away, let it
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: slip out of my life.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: That's what I try.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: I kind of learned like because I always have traveled
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: for camp since I was probably three or four and
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: os a pro, or three and one as a pro,
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: three or four fights in as a pro, I was,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I was traveling. I was going to roof of the
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Sport for a long time. I stayed there for a
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: long time. Then I went to Florida for a long time.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: And now I'm not Chicago and always what you mean
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: valley flow like war room with Malam Mohammed. Yeah, So
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: and that's been a change. Yeah, man, he's so good.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Both the brother. He got a little brother. Oh really,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: he's a stud. He's a stud.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: I believe it. If he comes out of that family.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Monday is a beast.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: He's a stud. The little brother is a stud. He
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: helped me for Marvin's fight, I think, and then Natcha
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: helped me a little bit for this one, this last one.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: How did you choose going to Chicago.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: I've known Below since Rufus Sport, and obviously we stayed
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: in contact, you know, when we see each other, it's
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: like we never you know, I haven't seen each other.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: And he's always told me, like, bro, just come down,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: just come check it out. You don't have to stay
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: or nothing, like stay at my house, but you don't
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: have to move here or nothing. Just come check it out.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: So I watched his rise and what he does and
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: his work ethic and his team, and after the Fluffy loss,
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: like I just I kind of sat back, had some
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: conversations with people that are really close to me and
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: explain like what was going on with me, like mentally
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: and where I felt. And I was one of the
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: people I talked to, and He's like, I know what
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: the problem is, and everyone that I talked to, which
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: wasn't a lot, they all said exactly the same thing.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: So I was like, be can I come? Can I
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: what was the problem complacency? I know, like who I
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: can train with? And I go hard. I'm I'm the
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: coach of my own thing, like I'm running my like
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: whole camp.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Basically I go to running your whole camp.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: Basically I'd be like for jiu jitsu, Yeah, I'd go
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: to Wagner's for jiu jitsu, I'd go I'd be at Kilcliff,
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: but I'd be in the corner doing my thing because
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: he had the Russian coach over here teaching some crazy
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: stuff that don't make no sense.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Like they'd be teaching some stuff off the wall that
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: would never work.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but the kid, like the kid, the Russian kids,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: like they were in the classes, like they got young
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: young guys like Ansar Nikita like by saying or he
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: wasn't even there. Like those guys they were like, come
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: over here, let's do something else. Like they have like
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: real mma knowledge because they fight and they've learned from
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: you know, all the guys from where they're from.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: But uh, Russian coaches.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: There was just one man.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Uh you don't have to say his name. Yeah, he
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: was just he's not there no more. But but he
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: was a legit coach.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: He never fought.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, did he fight in anything? Kickboxing?
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: No?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Nothing.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he even competed in wrestling, to
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: be honest with you, ever.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, is he like does he spar
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: with people? Nope? How old is he?
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I would say in his thirties, I would say say, yeah,
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I would guess.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: And he's a coach, but he's coaching unorthodox stuff like
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: what kind of stuff.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Like stuff against the wall. But it was like, for instance,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: I don't remember what it was. It was against the wall.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: I was going with my friend AJ, Aaron Jefferies, and uh,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: it was some take down off the wall, right. AJ
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: couldn't get it. I was like, bro, this and I
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: don't say it out loud because I don't want no problems.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: You know, like I'm gonna just go with the flow
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: and mine my business. But you know, I've been doing
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: it long enough to where it's like he realized this
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: move is probably not gonna work from my body type
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: or my my king. But I'll try it, and so anyway,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: he was doing it, and it's just like, bro, I
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: don't get it. I was like, yeah, cause this shit
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna work.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Bro. He's like what.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, it's not gonna work. I'm telling you.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: So he calls the coach over and he was like,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: you doo. The guy looks at me. He goes he's
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: telling him, and then he looks at me, go stop
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: it me. He's like yeah. I was like, bet. He
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: tries to do it. I literally grab his wrists, grab
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: his head and throw him. Boom.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Is he your size?
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: He's bigger than me.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, throw him? And so it didn't work.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: No, He's like, let me try one more time. Let's
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: go full speed. I said, shit, that was full speed.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Do the exact same thing, but do it the other
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: way now. Boom again. AJ looks at me, he says,
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: the coach says something. I was like. Then then I
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: get agitated. Right then, I'm like, man, that's because this
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: shit ain't gonna work. I told y'all, y'all don't listen
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: to me. I just walked off.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Oh that's not good, but you know, so.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I just walk off and I was like, I.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Ain't taking this guy, I become a coach there.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: Sticking around and translating.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, you know something, there's those weird guys like that.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this guy's like that, but there
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: are some weird guys like that become parasitic. You know.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: They're like friends with a guy who's a really good fighter,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and then they're always there, and then they want to
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: be a part of the team somehow, and then they
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: start contributing or this time maybe running conditioning drills or something,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and you're like, why is this guy running conditioning drills.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: That's exactly how it went.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Oh that's the word.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Exactly how it went.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Literally, there's weird parasitic relationships in any elite like thing,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: whether it's sports. I see it in comedy as some
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: comedians that have weird parasitic friends that wind up, you know,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: becoming a producer on their thing. And there's just some
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: guy who just just like like a lamprey clinging to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: the bottom of a shark.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: It got weird for a little while, especially at the
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: end it did, like when I was still there with
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: that whole thing, because even some of the other coaches
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: started to catch on because at kill Cliff. You know,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: sometimes we'd have a lot of guys fighting like all
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: over the place, so coaches would be gone and you
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: try to, you know, figure that situation out. So he'd
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: step in and try to help, and it just got weird.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: But like again, I'm I'm not the kind of person
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: that really cause a conflict. Like I'd rather just like
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: if like just for instance, if you're causing something like
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: some type of energy with me, I'm gonna just move
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: over here and just stay out your way, you.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Know, just because the world needs more people like you.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Well, my younger self would have I want a conflict,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna show.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: You right of course right now as you go, yeah,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: and you realize, like what's the Also, you're at mix
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Martial Arts fighter. You ain't got shit to prove to somebody.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: That's kind how I feel now. I see some of
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: these younger kids. I feel I see some of these
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: younger kids now and I'm just like, I'm gonna just
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: stay over here.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: It gets people hurt, it ruins your life.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: And that's what it can ruin your life. I don't
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: want that to happen because, like I have kids that
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: have a wife I have a good life. I live
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: very nice, like as far as like my lifestyle, Like
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: I'm here with you right now, you know, So it's
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: fucking pointless.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I've seen bar fights where, you know, just young guys
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and they just like see an opportunity to want to
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: prove something. And I'm like, I just want to tell him, like,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: hey man, one day you're going to be thirty five.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be looking back on this day and maybe
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: it's the day you got stabbed. Maybe it's the day
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you got shot. You know, maybe it's the day you
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: got knocked the fuck out, your head bounced off the concrete,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and you'll never be the same person again.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like exactly, you said, this is not worth it.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Like you know Kevin James, the comedian, Yeah, he's to
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: come to the gym. Oh that's that's awesome. He changes
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: a lot. Good friend of mine. I've been from friends
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: of mine for thirty years. When I first met him,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: he told me a story of when he was bouncing.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: When he was bouncing at a bar in Long Island,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: one of his friends, there was a bouncer and some
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: drunk kid was starting shit and he knocked this kid
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: out and the kid fell down and hit his head
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: and died, and he wound up doing time. He went
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to jail for manslaughter.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: One of my best friends got stabbed in the face
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: in New Orleans because he was He didn't even know
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: he was talking to this dude's chick and he didn't know.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: He didn't know, like she didn't say nothing. She came
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: up to him. He was just at the bar. Dude
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: came and stabbed him in the face, broke his jaw,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: stabbed him and ran. He has a nice scar. He's
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: older now, so it's kind of went away, but like
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: through his beard, but wired his jaw shut. He was
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: just messed up for a while, you know, in the face.
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  Speaker 1: You just got lucky. So it's like, got lucky to
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  Speaker 1: hit that jawn, not your fucking crowder artery. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: I watched a video of these guys in London and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: they're yelling at each other and squaring off each other,
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  Speaker 1: And this dude is just squirting out of his neck
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and he tries to fight for a second. Then he
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: just gets woozy and he's just squirting as he goes down.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I'm assuming he died because
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the amount of blood loss, So someone
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: didn't jump on that and compress it. And even if
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you did, the crowded artery is like such a significant
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: amount of blood that's going through there, depending on it,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I guess the damage.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Dude, I think I like so stupid. I've always heard
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: the story, obviously, you know how stories are but I've
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: heard from a couple of people, but I have like
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: a great uncle somewhere along the line. He passed out,
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: passed away before I was alive. He was in a bar.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: I know right where the place is. Everything's the building's
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: still there to this day. He was in the bar.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: He was sitting down having some drinks for a friend,
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: don't I don't know the relationship between him and the guy.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: The guy walked up behind him, slit his throat.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Oh god, he.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Missed the karat arteries, both of them by like not
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: even a quarter of an inch, like not even ate
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: them inch. He missed both of them.
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: So it was just here. Oh.
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: She chased the guy out, almost beat him to death,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: and then almost died because he couldn't breathe, like, oh god,
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: but almost beat the guy to death, almost almost died.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: So two people almost died.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Lubs are so bad.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: I've never been a club. I hate like a group
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: of people.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I hate it.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I get very off setting.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: There's too many people on coke. There's too many people
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: that are stupid. There's too many people that want them,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: like bro I fucking see red. And you know there's
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: too many dummies when I was a kid. When I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was twenty one years old. I was at a bar
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and I watched this guy hit a guy in a
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: face with a Heineken bottle out of nowhere over nothing.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I was standing by the bar and there's just two
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: guys that were as close as Jamie is to me,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and they were talking to each other like a loud voices,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: but nothing crazy, like no physical shit. And this guy
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: just takes a Heineken bottle off the ball and smashes
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: it on his face and there was blood everywhere. This
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: guy was just just leaking all over his face. I
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: was like, the guy's face is destroyed for the rest
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: of his life over literally nothing, literally nothing. It's crazy, man.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: It's just there's too many people out there that are
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: fucking stupid, man, and you get sucked into their gravity.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: You know. You're like the guys that like they're like,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: if they know who you are, they'll be like, oh
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: you can fight, I can shoot.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, so can I Yeah? Congratulations, fight
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: each other or shoot each other.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: That's my CID.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: My name is Brendon.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: That's my thing.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I don't want to fight our shoot
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: you just leave me alone and leave my family alone.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: We're good, bro, I don't I don't want no problems
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: with nobody.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem is there's too many people out there
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: that haven't proven themselves. They don't have a thing in
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: their life that gives them a challenge all the time
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: where they're proving themselves. So every time they go out,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: they're trying to prove themselves. Every time they go out,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: they're trying to puff their chest out and be billy badass,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: and it's it's so dangerous. And here's why you don't
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: see that trained fighters. Dude.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: I used to bounce that a little, like something small.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: And I needed the money obviously, and I will never
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: forget man, this little dude, he had to be like
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: this tall, short and fat.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know how tipsy he was. I don't know, right,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: but all the guys know that I was fighting. I
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: was LFA at the time, and they're like, they always
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: told me, hey, man, don't worry about hitting nobody. If
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: someone swims at you, I got you, or just hit
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: them and say I did it. And I was like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: I'm good, bro, I'm good.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I just in trouble. Yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: They were super cool, right, who knows that would have
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: really been hot. I know, you know, But anyway, there
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: was a lawsuit that dude. There was a bartender there.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: He freaking I watched it with my own two eyes.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: In the front, this dude and him got into it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: The guy slipped because he pushed him and he slipped.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: It was a little wet dude. He soccer kicked him
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: so hard in the face, so hard. I was like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: he got arrested for that. God, you know, but that
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: but that little kid, he swung at me and I
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: don't even know if he hit me or hit my hand.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: He hit something right, And I'm laughing. I'm laughing. I'm
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: like I couldn't believe it, like.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: You must have. I'm laughing.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: I'm literally doing this because I was gonna stick him
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: with the right but he was so little, Like I
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: was like, no way, And how I saw the punch come,
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I was like, don't do it.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: There are some people out there that have no idea
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: how to fight, and yet they still try to fight.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: They have no weapon, they don't have a good punch,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: they don't have a background in wrestling, they don't have
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: a damn thing, and yet they'll still decide they want
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: to fight someone. Just hope in today's day and age,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: how can you hope that people don't know how to fight.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: I think if you runted to ten guys, one of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: them can fight today. Right. It's probably the most in
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: human history in terms other than like Spartan days, most
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: in human history. And even back then, how good was
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: their technique? Exactly crazy? They probably didn't even know about
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: calf kicks.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: It's like my dad grew up boxing, right, So my dad,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: he would always tell me, like growing up he was
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: a little bitch. He was like I used to get
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: my ass kicked until he had he had to move
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: in with his grandfather. His grandfather, World War two vet
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: shot twice, grew up boxing. Probably the most rugged man
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: that you'll ever meet. I met him once before he
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: passed away. His voice was so gruff, like he's a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: man's man, you know, like one of those doesn't say
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: nothing really and uh so he raised my dad and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: he used to step outside like kind of mess with
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: him box. He put him in boxing. But he knocked
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: my dad out one time, and my Dad's like, you know, well, man,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: come on, let's test it. Stepped on his foot and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: slapt him and uh, but anyway, so like when he
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: was in high school though, dude, he said. My dad said,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: he didn't care about nothing. My dad said, he literally
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: watched his smash his finger flat with a hammer. The
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: nerves flew out like they were still attached. They flew out.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: Hit his head on throwing bales of hay in the loft.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: He smoked his head on a railroad spike that was
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: in the wood. Uh, cracked his skull. He didn't know
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: till two days later. They said if he would have
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: waited a couple like twelve more hours, he would have
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: been dead because all the swelling on his brain. They
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: had to cut his brain, his skull off to let
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: the fluid come out. Oh god, crazy old just stubborn
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: old man.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: You know that's crazy, dude. Your grandson though, sleeping like.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: That, dude, he said. My dad said. My dad said,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: he said we were messing around. He's like, all right, like,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: quit messing with me. He always told him that leave
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: me alone. He kept on, kept on. He stepped on
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: his foot and my dad said, quit stepping. He said,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: that's all he remembers, old school trick.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: He slept him.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: My dad said, when he woke up, he had the
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: worst like migraine, and he was on the porch drinking
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: a thing I think tea, and he was like, hey,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: get your ass up and go clean the dog pin
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: get to work.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Was those dudes who came up through World War Two.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: That's a different kind of human being.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, so it's like human being like that's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: that's just kind of like how my dad was so
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: like when he got too high school, like he wasn't
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: to kind of go look for trouble. But he was
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: the kind of person like my dad told me as well,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: like you stick up for the people that can't stick
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: up for themselves. Yeah, or if someone fucks with you,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: like do what you gotta do. Just don't like nowadays,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: he's like, don't put your hands, like, don't throw the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: punch of them first unless they get an arm for
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: each then you throw a punch first. Don't ever let
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: someone like you too. You could just choke somebody, yeah now,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: but it's like you can just put them to sleep,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: and that's more. I'm a good hugger, so it's like
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: I prefer that. But my dad's like mean man, like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: he's different, and he like he was in the military
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: and he boxed when he was overseas for like seventy
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: five bucks because he send all his money home to us.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: So it's like like I don't know, like people don't
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: know I'm raising I come from something like that's what
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I feel like when I fight, Like I'm different, Like
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: I I honestly I I was telling myself that in
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: the Marvin fight in between rounds, like going into the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: third because my dad and my brother were both there
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: in attendance for the first time. Like my brother hadn't
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: been in any of my fights since probably my second
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: pro fight because of his injury. And uh so, like
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: my I watched my buddy Costello fight for the PFL
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: belt and he said after the fight, like he said
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: word for word, he's like I was, I was raised
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: by a warrior, he raised two warriors. I'm a fucking warrior.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: And he's like, that's That's what I told myself, And
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: so like that stuck in my head till the fight,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: like till my fight. So like in the third round,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: like everyone was like, oh, he falls off in the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: third and that was something like my corner was because
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: that was my first time in Chicago. So like Herasio
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: looked at me in between rounds and he was like, hey,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: let's go, like, let's let's restart it. He said something
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: else and I was like, I'm good, just get out
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: of the way, like you know, that's it's kind of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: one of those moments where it's like you're living in
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: the moment, but I don't know.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I think just having a coach is really important.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: It's really important, especially having an elite coach. Having a
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: coach that's really on top of it. You know, I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: guess a safe syud, you know, Faza, Hobby, Duke Rufus.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Having something's like really on it, really watching you really
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: knows what you need, really knows when you need to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: back off, because the fact that you did so well
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and that you were coaching yourself is kind of fucking crazy.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Well, when I say I coach, yeah exactly, but I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: didn't have a main coach, yes, sir exactly.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: That's the difficulce. So for people that don't know, Okay,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: if you're listening to this and just interested in MMA,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: generally there's a striking coach. Usually they have some sort
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: of a muyt higher kickboxing background. You generally have wrestling coaches.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: You generally have jiu jitsu coaches, and if you're a
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: really good gym, you got one guy who knows how
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: to put it all together. Right. Those are the maestros.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Those are the guys who are like conducting the entire
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: orchestra and they know you. And if a good guy
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: knowing his fighter is like an artist. And I think
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: you can only have a certain amount of people that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: you're working really closely with because it's a very involved
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: and intensive job. Like Eric Nixon, that's a guy he
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: gets down into the nitty gritty of every fucking thing
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: you guys are, He's watching you. He knows what you need,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: he knows what you don't need. You know. It's like
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: it's also you got a guy who could just say
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: push it off to him. He knows what to do.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: He's gonna give you game plans in between rounds. Okay,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: this is working, but we need more of this. He
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: does this all the time when he does. The reason
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: why he's getting away with it is because of that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: get it in your head. Go out there. When I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: hear guys and the guys losing and they get no
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: technical advice and they start getting go fuck him. Up.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: You gotta fuck him up, you gotta put hands on him,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: like and I'm like, oh my god, tell him what
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: to do. He knows how to fight, Get on top,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: tell him.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: Get on top, tell him what to do. Stand up.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: And I get it. You only have a minute. I
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: get it. And I get it. Everybody's panicking if things
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: are going wrong. I get it. But my god, it's
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: been having a good coach, having like a Farosca hobby
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: type dude in your corner who just really understands what
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: you need to do so fucking important.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: It's been one of the best changes that I have
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: because I ain't gonna lie. I'm not the easiest person
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: to deal with. Like I like to be very in
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: control of things that I can control. And I know myself,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: like I've done a lot, I've been around a lot,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: so like I know, like, hey man, like I'm feeling
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: it today, like my body's kind of done. No no, no, nout,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: go go go on hundred percent.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: You know, do you monitor all your shit? Do you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: monitor your resting heart rate? Yeah?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: Now I don't usually have my whip on because I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: used to have the aura, but it like I couldn't
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: train with it. But I know I just took it
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: off because I was training jiu jitsu.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Or it is a little bit of a problem when
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: you live weights too exactly. I pinched my finger so bad.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Well have you ever seen sheathing injuries? You ever seen those?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: What is it where it rips the skin of your
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: finger off?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: The first time I ever saw one, I never saw
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: him in person, but the first time I ever saw one,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: it was somebody who did jiu jitsu, and they did
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: jiu jitsu with a ring on like a wedding ring,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: and just fucking mangled her finger. Well, it's called sheathing
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: because it pulls all your skin off the bone like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: a sheath. You would stick say that.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know that's what it was called.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: That's what it's called, like a sheathing. Yeah, here's some
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: of these injuries.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: I saw it like that.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Who look at that, dude? Eh.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: The first time I ever seen it was someone a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: gee it got caught in the gi Oh my god,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: like you said, took the skin off. Yeah, he had
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: the red ring and he had I think he made
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: the grip on the on the sleeve and when the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: guy pulled it like took it like caught that like fat,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: that little muscle or whatever right.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: There, ripped his fucking skin off, the whole skin.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: I've never seen that, dude. It was so nasty. Like
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: you said, I was like, oh, so now I am
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent sure that I don't wear my wedding ring.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: That's why it's tattooed on my finger, because when I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: go to camp, I don't. I don't wear a redder ring.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: She knows.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: When I get to camp, I take it off. I
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: put it in my truck. When camp is over and
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: I get home from the fight, I put it back on.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I don't have mine on now because I just came
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: from the gym. But I used to have a silicone one.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Well I'm not used to I have a silicone one
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: that I use all the time that I can work
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: out with it, I could do anything with it. Well, interesting, Yeah,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: what is that company? Ridge? Is that what it is? No,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: that's the wall company? Is that what it is? They
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: make it all kinds of stuff, But it's a good one.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: It's there's there's it looks like an ORR ring too,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: but it's it's made out of silicon. Even if you
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: catch it on something, it's no big deal. But even that,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: I forget which which coach it was. I forget which coach.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: It's like, like an elite jiu jitsu coach. He goes.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I refuse to let a guy even train with that,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: he goes. I've seen too many injuries, too many injuries
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: where your finger just gets mangled by having that stupid
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: thing on there. That's nasty, that's like groove, that's it.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like that with those legit knee injuries
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: and like dislocations.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, you know what creeps me the most is
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: broken shins. I'll say that that shin check when the
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: shin snaps like ah, there's ever a fight that I
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: think a guy should have pulled out that didn't, And
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: if I was his friend, would have told him, you
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: cannot fight. It's Connor when he fought Dustin, the second
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: fight with Dustin, excuse me, the third fight with Dustin,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: when his shin snapped in half. You know they knew
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: that he had some sort of a hairline fracture on it, surely. Yeah,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: I never knew that he had already had MRIs and everything.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: They knew something was really wrong with it. Yeah, and
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: he didn't even it didn't even like go shin to
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: knee or anything like that, like it usually snaps. That's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: how compromised it was. If you watch that fight, there
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: is one time where Dustin checks it and he checks
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the kick and he looked at him. He pointed at
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: him like I know that hurt you, bitch, Like he
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: like got in his head. And that was also after
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Dustin had just chaoed him in the last fight. So
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: this was the third fight, yes, and it was weird, man,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: because in the first fight it was like nice guy Connor.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: It was like nice guy Connor even after the fight,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: like after the fight he was being cool. He got
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: chaoed his leg up fucked up with those calf kicks,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: and after the fight he was so respectful. Connor turned
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: a corner. Bro.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, bro, it's so funny. But it's like I know it, dusn't.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: He comes from like the same vibe that I come from,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: and like same things probably bother him. So when he
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: said that, you could see Dustin like even though he
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: just whooked them, he was like like, you know, to say,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: why you're lying there with bro, Like for sure, you
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: know a guy could just keep tak it well though
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: you know who took it the best that I've seen personally,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Tyrone Spaung when he when he snapped his in half,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: He's just sitting there. We talk about this too. I'm like, bro,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: how did you sit there?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Just like.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: He's like, to be honest. I think he said, like
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: to be honest. I was a living shock at first,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: and I was like, what am I gonna do it? Yeah?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Like what am I gonna do?
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Like? It sucks?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: That is That was against Gokansaki too. Yeah, that was
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: a kickboxing fight. Yeah, I remember in a kickboxing fight.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting It's way more common in an MMA fight.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I've only seen it a couple of times in kick
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: but I've seen it. God, thank God. Thank because of Instagram, luckily,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I get to see every faling, horrific injury that's ever happened.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I've seen it. Seems like I never saw it until
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: one who was the first time? Was it Corey Hill?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I think it was Corey Hill was the first guy
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: who broke his. And Corey was like a real tall,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: thin guy. I believe he fought at one forty five
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: and he was something crazy like six' three at one forty. Five,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: yep it was real tall and. Skinny and who did
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: you Fight? Jamie he passed, away, right yes he. Did
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: unfortunately he.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: Fought louisiana good big BECAUSE i remember when he passed,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: away they were doing some stuff for him, there.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: So that was. Also the referee didn't notice, It, dale
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: it's just his daily.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: Oh oh oh.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: Bro that gets.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Me so during the, fight the referee didn't notice, it
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: so they kept fighting AND i put my headsets down
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: AND i got up AND I i was, screaming stop the,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: fight stop the. Fight the referee didn't notice. It he
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: didn't notice that the guy's leg, broke so they were
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: still scrapping on the.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: GROUND i hope that was the BECAUSE i did not
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: notice that his leg is literally.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: It's just a bad. Angle you, know you're in the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: wrong place at the wrong, time looking at where the referee.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Standing there's actually kind of no excuse. There it.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Is it falls, back look.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: Stop stop.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: All, Over Corey, hill dang.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: Leg you saw it instantly on your.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: MONITOR i saw it instantly in the. Cage oh. DANG
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: i wasn't watching the. MONITOR i don't even think we
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: had monitors back.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: THAT i was just about to ask that. QUESTION i
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: don't think we.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Then we didn't have monitors for a. While the monitors
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: are my. Idea. REALLY i was, like we have to have.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: MONITORS i want to see. MONITORS i want to see,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: REPLAYS i want to see Ship, yeah it was, early
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: early in the UF i was, like we need, monitors you.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Know and also the. Judges she gets fucking monitors.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: Too, yeah now it's, Nice i'll sit behind you. Something
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: NOW i don't think of.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: That Maybe i'm. Wrong maybe we did have. Monitors MAYBE
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: i was asking for other things because MAYBE i was
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: asking for monitors for the. Judges like when did they
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: start having monitors in THE. UFCA i don't. Know BUT
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: i always try to watch the actual. FIGHT i want
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: to see that actual. Fight, YEAH i, MEAN i, like
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: you get a better view if the cage is. There
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: BUT i, mean, fuck, man you're five feet away from
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: the best fights On. Earth you want to see, it see.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: IT i don't want to be ON tv WATCHING. Tv that's.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: Crazy hey you got the best seat in the.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: House oh it's the craziest seat. Ever so when did
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: they start doing it twenty? Eleven is that for? Judges,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: yeah that was definitely my, idea or, well there was
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: other people that had that same, idea But i'm, like
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: you need to do. This this is because there were
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: some of them that were so, bad some calls that
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: were so. Bad it's, like there's no way these guys
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: are seeing. Everything you, know if there's a pillar here
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: and a guy lends an elbow and you're judging and
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: you don't see, it like what do you? Do what
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: do you? Say that might have been the most bitoal
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: moment in the, fight like what are you? Doing you
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: have to see? It and the judging thing is. Crazy.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Man there's judges that don't even, train they've never TRAINED,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: mma they don't they don't have any jiu jitsu, skill
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: they don't know what's going on in the middle of a.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Fight once this lady leaned over to my, friend who
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: has also worked for one of the, commissions and, said
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: what is he? Doing no, way it was An, americana
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: it was an a normal. Move it was, like what
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: is he? Doing that's? Crazy it was Either americana Or.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Kamura i'm not sure IF i remember.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: He's trying to bite him WHAT i don't, know.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: But imagine this is a person that's in. Charge so
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: the really horrible thing about it a bad. Decision it's
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: not just that you could a loss on your, record
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: but you get half your, paycheck WHICH i think is
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: really fucked. UP i think that needs to. STOP i
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: think you should have a designated amount that you're fighting.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: For and if you want to have a stoppage bonus
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: or you want, to you, know give someone some some
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: sort of a bonus for an excellent. Performance that's, great
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: that incentivizes them to try harder to stop. Somebody but
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: a bad decision that can cost you half your purse is.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Crazy it's, crazy you.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: KNOW i had A i'm getting, older you, know SO
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: i try to have a little bit more. Wisdom so
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: after LIKE i lost the, FLUFFY i was, LIKE i
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: went back and watched a fight like six, times And i'm,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: LIKE i really don't see HOW i lost it on the.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Decision LIKE i can see like your point if you
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: use this frame of, mind but based on the unified
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: rules at the, Time how SO i DIDE i reach
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: out to like a lot of people THAT i knew
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: that are like in the high up end, commissions and
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: LIKE i had really deep talks with them about, it
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: like explain my, perspective listen to, theirs the rules and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: literally it came down to is your, interpretation is your
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: interpretation of the, Rules and it was, like it came down,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: to is his effect of grappling even if they're, holding
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: they're still you, know, whatever does it outweigh me almost
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: knocking you out and me putting a cut all the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: way to your skull on your face and you holding?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: Me which one out weighs? What that's HOW i explained
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: it to, him and they were, like, oh but he
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: just had more, TIME i. Said and, look don't get me,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: WRONG i Love. FLUFFY i think he's a great human.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: BEING i really. Do i've known. Him we fought twice
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: already and he's beat me both, times both, decisions you.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: Know and BUT i don't THINK i lost the last.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: One i'll still down that.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Hill what was a very good. Fight it was a
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: very close. FIGHT i see what you're, saying, Though and
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: it was one of the things that we brought up
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: during this past fight With morob and Peod, Yan And i'm,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: like if you're looking at it in terms of just,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: damage Peodr yan is clearly doing more. Damage. Right he's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Hitting marob with shots that rock. Him he kicks him
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: in the, body he's got him. Screaming there was never
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: a moment Where morob did that To. Pyotre even when
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: he hit him with good, Chops peter was firing back.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Right damage is. Huge it's what the sport is really.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: About the sport is really about either damage or coming
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: really close to putting someone, out like submitting. Them and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: it's just that's what the sport's. About and when it's just,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: holding when a guy holds and doesn't do anything with,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: it it's like. That It's, look it's an effective. Strategy
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: and if you're fighting a guy who could fuck, you
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: up standing and that's all you could do to, SURVIVE i, Understand,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: LIKE i have no problem with boring. FIGHTS i really.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Don't AND i know the fans are fugging separat, them you,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: know fucking separate. THEM i have no problem with boring
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: fights BECAUSE i think if you can let a guy
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: just hold on to, you that is a part of the.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Game if a guy takes you down and holds you,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: DOWN i think you should be. There around's only five.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: MINUTES i don't believe in stand, ups AND i know
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: that sounds, crazy but even if it's boring as, shit
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: and Sometimes i'm happy when they stand people. UP i really.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Am but if it was my, rules IF i could
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: make the, Rules i'd, like never stand a person up
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: unless there's a violation of the, rules, Right never stand
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: a person up because it's part of the. Sport if it's,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: boring it's, boring you.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Know we talked about it after the. Fight after the,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: fight LIKE i went in the back AND i was
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: frustrated at. Myself, really to be, HONEST i was super frustrated. Myself,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: well first it WAS i was, like, fuck they just
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: let him fucking hold the whole. Time like in the
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: THIRD i literally almost knocked him, out Like i'm talking, shit,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: right and, Uh robbie looks at, Me Robbi, lawler and he,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: goes should just got. Up THEN i, went you're, Right,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: yeah you're, right you're.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Right that's Some Robbie lawler right.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: There and that's and from THERE i was like all, right.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah but THEN i found out after like one Of
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: fluffy's coaches is he used to be in the, commission,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: like so he knows that they explained his pedigree or,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: whatever and he's very very very knowledgeable about what the
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: rules are and all these. Things so they he STRATEGIZES
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: i guess certain things around, that.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: So he strategized to certain things around the.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: Rules that's WHAT i that's WHAT i. Heard that's what
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: they told. Me and he canceled like he was in
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: the commission like part of, It LIKE i guess work for,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: them and he's like he pulled out of working there
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: because he wanted to be For fluffy, more which is,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: admirable but like he didn't want to have like a conflict. Contrast,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: yeah SO i thought that was pretty. Cool but LIKE
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: i will, say like What fluffy did really good THAT
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: i was prepared, for like wrestling like, crazy BUT i
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: wrestled with guys that are like folk style. Wrestlers what
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: he does very well is he don't shoot normal. Shots
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: he doesn't he doesn't shoot like a double or a.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Single he shoots like it looks like it's going to
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: be a, double but he's only at your. Hips he's
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: just trying to get your. Hips then he's circling right
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: away if he, can or putting you to the cage
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: and working his sequences from. There but he has very awkward.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: Shots they're so, Weird LIKE i could see them AND
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: i was, like, Oh i'm about to stuff. It But
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: i'm the kind of guy, like you got to touch
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: me and Then i'm gonna. Go i'm not just gonna
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: react that. Way you can set it up for something.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: Else but as soon as he touches, me like in
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: the second he WAS i didn't know, how BUT i
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: watched it. BACK i went to like catch a whizzer
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: and next thing you, know my feet came out from
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: under me because we were both circling so. HARD i
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: was trying to get the wizzer and he was trying
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: to go to my, back and my feet came out
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: from under, me AND i just landed like on my,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: shoulder And i'm like in the, Fight i'm, like what
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: the fuck just. Happened there's no way this is where
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: my head's. At i'm, like no fucking way he just did.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: This i'm, like what the fuck just? Happened and my
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: corner's yelling at. Me his corner's, yelling And i'm still
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: in my head like what the? Fuck like what just and?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: Dude it took me like probably a minute and a
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: half to like transfer to something. Else and THEN i was,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: like a he's not doing, nothing So i'll just get
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: him the next, round which terrible frame of mindset we've
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: worked on and then the third but, yeah, MAN i
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: was like still like after the, FIGHT i was, like,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: YO i asked my. BOY i was, like how do
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: you get me? Down they're like he went for a.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: GUILLOTINE i, sang go for no goddamn guillotine till the
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: third and THEN i swept him with it and stood back.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: UP i was, LIKE i didn't do, THAT i, Swear but, yeah,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: Man but LIKE.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: I, said he.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: Is a savage and.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: He and he also has a crazy gas. Tank. Man
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: he melts, guys melts guy deletes. Anything when he grabbed
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: his neck and just like like a bouncer at a,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: nightclub just tragged him back to finish. Him that was. Crazy.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Man that's one THING i WISH i would have,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: gave like put more, output like BECAUSE i Wasn't everyone's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: like you're. TIRED i was, like, GIR i was having
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: a full conversation like this in between rounds right. AFTER
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: i wasn't. TIRED i was just, complacent LIKE i was, like,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: oh Like i'm already gonna BECAUSE i beat malcoon like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: that because all he did was hold literally just held
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: And i'm hitting him bang bang. Bang how AM i
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: supposed to improve my. Position you're literally just. Holding you're
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: not even moving at. All you're not lifting your, Weight
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: you're not doing. Nothing SO i won that fight BECAUSE
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: i did more damage AND i had fight ending. INTENTIONS
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: i FELT i had that With. Fluffy so in the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: THIRD i was, Like i'm elbowing him and he's gushing
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: blood And i'm looking at the Ret i'm, like, yo
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: he's just. HOLDING i try to get. Up he's just
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: he just picks my ankle AND i go back. DOWN
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: i elbow him some, more try to get back. Up
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: he got on top for like a, minute but he
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: didn't do nothing really. Anyway that's where my frame of
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: mindset was, at and it was just, terrible you, know looking,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: Back BUT i would love a.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: Third you, know well it probably, Happened it'll probably happen
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: because it'll be a great.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: Fight, yeah that's, where, well that's where the kind of
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: the hold up, IS i guess right. Now of, like
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: obviously you know how politics work in this, game but
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: it's like the top five is the champion kiss uh,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: sorry champion rikis, Emovolve Sean, Strickland fluffy, me and it's
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: like all, Right, sean they just Announced sean And Fluffy, Evolve,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: yeah that's, cool and Then evolve is. Waiting they've all
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: they both said they're gonna wait for that. One so
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: it's just me And dricis and then right behind me Is,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: izzy who knows when he's gonna fight or if he's
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: gonna fight or, right so it's like we're waiting On.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: Rikis drikus always has a lot to say When i'm,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: losing but When i'm, winning he don't really have enough to.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: Say and then LIKE i just saw an interview like
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: the other day and it was, like, uh he was, like,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah i'd love to to beat his head in or
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: something about, you, yeah about, Me And i'm, like, well
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: you have the opportunity to do, so and it only
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: makes sense unless you want to wait.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Forever SO i wonder what he does after That hamzad,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: fight because when a guy dominates you like, that where
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: it's so, clear it's just like one of those gaps
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: that it looks, like, oh you're never going to bridge
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: that gap and that grappling, gap and.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: It's never gonna. THAT i don't know if you, agree
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: but that should never happen at fat.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Level it will never does happen at that. Level that's the,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: reality Except islam And Jack. Delamutelena that's another similar. Situation,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: yeah very similar. Situation BUT i think there's there's guys
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: that you get in there with and you, know if
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: you're used to a LIKE b caliber guy or you,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: know a high high level, guy, right but there's there's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: only a few real, a's and Like hamzad is a REAL. A,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: yeah he's good at he's a. SAVAGE i talked TO
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: dc about, him AND dc, Said, dude when that guy
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: grab me and he, goes we were wearing street clothes
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: and everything like, that he, GOES i, realized, like, Oh
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: i'm gonna have to, wrestle wrestle to keep this guy off.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Me he goes like he. Was he's fucking. Strong. Yeah
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: and it's also because first of, all how the fuck
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: did that guy make one? SEVENTY i don't.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: Know BUT i don't understand how he talks about going
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: up to two or, five, because like you, said you
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: got guys Like. PEREIRA i don't get me. WRONG i
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: know they're stylistically, different BUT i.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Think he could do. IT i think he can do.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: IT i think he could do it if he takes
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: the time and puts weight.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: On, yeah if he puts weight, ON i think he
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: has a high chance because he's.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Tall you, know he's. Tall and it's also the thing
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: is just like these gaps in, wrestling you, know these
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: gaps in grappling when a guy's a really good grappler
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: and then you're taking on a guy Like dricas he's
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: really a. Striker, right was a good he's a good,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: grappler a good jiu jitsu. Guy but there's, levels you,
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: know and the kind of guy like hums, out, like,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: man you gotta be a Fucking olympic cal have a
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: wrestler to scrap with that. Guy.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah and it's LIKE i tell people, Like i'm not
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: gonna go out there and straight be tremaiavan pure, Wrestling
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: like it's not gonna. Happen i'm not. Stupid i'm not,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: stupid but It's. Mma COULD i take him? DOWN i,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: mean YEAH i, Could but there's other ways to approach
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: the fight THAT i THINK i have the upper. Hand
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: like you see how other people have approached him and
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: done well with. Him but it's like.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: You're also very good submissions. Too you have real solid
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: jiu jitsu game and you could. Strike you, know you're
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: you've got a very complete. Package AND i think you,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: know the thing about his grappling is that like you
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: have that. Hole if you have that, hole he's gonna
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: find that hole and he's gonna smother for.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: Sure that's what. Freaks that's what like makes no sense
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: to me with the jerkers fight right like you're the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: champion of the. World he took you, down no. Problem,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: MAN i totally. UNDERSTAND i get taken down a, lot you,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: Know BUT i, MEAN i know our styles are. Different
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: but you didn't try to hip. Bump you didn't try
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: to hip. Escape you didn't try to scoop the leg
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: and lift and. Elevate you didn't try to do. Nothing
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: he didn't literally he didn't try to do. Thing he
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: literally waited for him to establish his. Position he'd roll
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: side to, side maybe one, hit bump. Around when he,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: Did tremiah did, great knee, sliced just stepped over past
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: and went.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Crucifix do you how many times you put in the?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: Crucifix by the, way that was. Crazy it was.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: CRAZY i only had to be like once a round
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: because he wasn't getting.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: Out it WAS i, mean how many times did he
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: put him in a crucifix in a world championship? Fight
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: has there ever been a fight where a champion has
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: been put in a crucifix that many? Times? Insane it
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: was over and over and over. Again we were, like
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: how was he doing this?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: Again this is so crazy and that that kind of
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: blew my. Mind so that's why it's, LIKE i.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Just Think tremaioh's gap is just so. Good AND i
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: think also with a guy Like drikas and you would
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: be the guy to speak to this when you're down
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: and you, Realize, okay it's the first. Round he's taking me,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: down he's on top of. Me let me just coen
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: serve my. Energy there's a five round world championship. Fight
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: i'm gonna knock this motherfucker. Out he's gonna get tired doing.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: This he always gets. Tired but you know the difference
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: With hamza in this fight is he trained With Sam
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: do you know that?
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: Guy, OKAY i just already hired someone.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: Good. Yeah calavida is a real elite strength and conditioning
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: coach and legendary. Guy and he runs this it's called
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: he just calls it the. Garage, okay it's An Orange, County,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: california and it's just a fucking garage and not even
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: a big, one just a small two car garage with
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: no cars in. It and it's all just machines and.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Equipment and he's got Armand serukian training down. THERE Tj
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: dillashaw when he was in his, prime he was training down.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: There the reason Why TJ's conditioning was that such a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: fucking high level when he was in his prime was
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: he was training with that. Guy he. Has everybody THAT
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: i know that's trained with him is, like, bro this
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: guy puts you through fucking. Hell, hell this is, uh
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: THAT'S tj when he's training. There and again this is
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: like if you see There's sam if you see, it
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: like and when you listen to the guy, talk just
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: extremely fucking, knowledgeable but he gets you to the. Point
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: it's called the Train it's if you look at it
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: online training lab On instagram T r E i G
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: n lab in lab, training but training is T r
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: E i G n like train m.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: MAN I i would know that name the training lab
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: BECAUSE i was, like, yeah, weird, wait that's.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: It so you See Aaron pico's there with, Them There's hamza,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: SO i, mean he's got so many elite guys that
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: are training inside of that. GYMA i wonder how they
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: how they work that.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: In obviously they have their coaches and stuff doing with,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 4: it but like how they operate if, WELL i think.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Intense the issue with hamza was. Overtraining so one of
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: the things About hamzad, is, uh he's apparently you can't
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: kick him out of the fucking. Gym he won't stop,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: training and you gotta you gotta literally like stop him from.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Training he's a. Maniac and when he GOT, covid that's
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: what really fucked him. Up so he GOT, covid and
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: you would, think, well healthy guy like that who GETS,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: covid that ain't gonna be shipped for. Him this silly
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: motherfucker was training like an animal two hour sessions WITH.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Covid so then you know he's never getting. Better so
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: instead of like, saying, hey this cold is not getting,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: better it's, like don't be, BUSY i kill. Everyone he
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: shows up again training again two and a half, hours
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: sick as a fucking, dog, coughing and then he broke
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: his immune system down to a point where they had
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: to fucking hospitalize HAPPEN i remember just from training while
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: he HAD. Covid that's all it. Was he just refused
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: to stop. Training and, look if YOU i don't care
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: what it, is the, flu whatever you, Have you're you're
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: trying to train two and a half hour days when
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: you have a serious lung. Infection you're gonna fucking. Die THERE'S,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Dc AND dc told me he did one session with.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Him what's? That oh, yeah, yeah he uses elastic bands
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: along with a fucking a rogue echo. Bike. Yeah so
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: those rogue echo bikes they suck, enough and to have
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: resistance bands while you're doing it, too that's. Crazy. Yeah
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Now sam's an animal and again super, knowledgeable like no
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: it was like what your recovery should be or where
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: your resting heart reach should. Be and also super knowledgeable
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: in terms of like, supplements diet and all that. Stuff
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: he comes from the endurance cycling, world which is like
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: so cycling you would imagine Like twitter front style style.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: Cycling this is probably the most endurance dependent sport on
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Planet earth because it goes for so, Long like you
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: have to be you have to really understand how to
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: peak in order to compete at a real insane endurance
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: event like. That so he's got this knowledge from that
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: sport that he's transferred over TO. Mma but EVERYBODY i
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: know that's trained with him and, said, like, man it
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: just changed, everything changed my whole game because now all
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: of a sudden got an incredible gas.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 4: Tank, yeah he's doing good to My LIKE i, said
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: he looked.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Good BUT i think that was a factor though in that,
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: fight because there's no fade in that fight where you,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: saw like The usman, fight there was a fade in
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: the third. Round usman won that fucking third. Round, yeah
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: and after that third round he was, like, FUCK i
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: wish this was a five round.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: Fight, yeah but it's like also Like usman made him have.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Output yeah he didn't really have. To he had one
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: explosion to take him down mm.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Hm but it was spin can fucking. Wrestle that's the. Difference,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah like he was in there with a guy who's real,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: strong even though he's a weight class below. Him like
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: it Was usman had been competing at one seventy And
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: humsad had already committed to eighty. Five he's a bigger.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: Guy But usman can really, Wrestle and that's the. Difference
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: it's not like a guy that doesn't know what to,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: do and you take him, down you ragged. Him uspin's, Like,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: okay you got me, down but this is a long
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: ass fight And i'm gonna get back up and we're
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: gonna figure this. Out and in the third round he
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: was figuring it out and he was he started tuning him.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Up he was laying good. Shots.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah THEY i have a friend that trained With, Tremaiah
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: like he goes and helps and he's told me he's, like,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: man his wrestling's really. GOOD i was, like how? Good
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: he was like it's. GOOD i was, like he whoop?
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: You he's like, no IF i if he whooped, me
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: why would they bring me? In if if he whoops?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: ME i was, like touche good. One but you know he.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: Is you still got to watch. That you gotta watch
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: see what does he? Considered?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: Whoop, yeah let me, watch show me the, video let
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: me see, it let me see what they.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Got let me go in the. ROOM i want to
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: see in the.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: Room but like its the meaner, Too like that the
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: conversation he had with Like Ian, garrett like he's similar to, Me, like.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: WELL i don't understand that BECAUSE i had heard there's
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: another angle that shows That ian like slapped him on
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: the back pretty. Hard, yeah oh he. Did.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah But ian's that. Guy he's like he's trying to
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: get a rise out of you that way when you
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: do get a, rise he's like like a big, brother you,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: know like. Nitpicking he's that. Guy he wants you to
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: get a rise out of. You so then he could be,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: like what are you?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: DOING i didn't mean.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: That he's, Like that's WHY i don't really Like that's.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: Why that's WHY i don't Like ian at. All that's because.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: He's you guys are have the same gym for a.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: While, yeah and he's but LIKE i don't, know LIKE i,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 4: know like other things and like things that. Happened he's
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: just that. Guy like he's talked shit to me through another.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: Person like we're out of me and my boy are
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: at a fight and he's talking shit to me through his. Phone,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: bro shut, up take your stop letting your wife tell
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: you what to. Do, bro shut.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Up you.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: Know but, like, yeah he walks over there and he says, something,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: dude he hits him hard on the, back And tamaia
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: just looks at him and then he he did what
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: he did back or whatever and shoved him whatever the,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: case however that you saw the confrontation from, there but,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: yeah he. Did he hit him and he told him
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: he was, like you hit like you hit, Me i'm
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: gonna fuck you, up like if you hit me like that.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: Again he tried to like big brother like.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Because the clip that everybody saw was after he slapped
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: him on the. Back it looked Like tamayah just got
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: really aggressive.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: With, him does the other, angle like keeps hitting, him
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: then shakes him as he walks.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: Away and then he's talking a little.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: Shit, yeah oh we're. Fine he's not going to do.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Nothing it's a little weirdly aggressive at it's passive. Aggressive
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: it's a little. Weird he taps. Him it was like
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: a little like grab his clothes and shove him a little.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Bit it wasn't like a guy that's, hey brother.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: All right, Exactly and that's what he. Said he's, like
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: good luck to. You, YEAH i have to give it to.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: Him like some Things tramaiah, said like he fought my
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: boy g and he talked shit to him in the.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: HALLWAY i didn't really like. That but, hey, y'all they're gonna,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: fight y'all are grown. Men do what y'all want some
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: things he might say or DO i don't. LIKE i
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: world agree. With but, hey as long as it's that to,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: me were. Goold but that like and other things he,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: DOES i fully agree. WITH i stand as a, MAN
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: i stand behind.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: Him but one of the THINGS i like ABOUT Jamaiahv
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: like after he Fuck, Gilbert gilbert and him went to
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: war and then he was, like you're my brother now you.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: Know you know WHAT i. Mean it's like he was
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: really cool with.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: Him, yeah you, know there's a young kid ants are
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: the trains a Kill, cliff and he is so much
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: like demeanor wise from WHAT i, see If tomai if
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: he's so much like, that, Dude i'm telling, you this
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: kid's like eighteen years old and he is a. Stud he's.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: Eighteen he fought for me on my promotion HIS i
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: think his.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Debut.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: Dude he goes and gets in the guy's. Face the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: guy's coming down at weight. Class he's going up aweight
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: answer is going up a weight, class, Dude he don't.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: Care matter of, fact he's in that streamer's video neon
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: or whatever they post about. It he's the one like
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: THROWING rdr around.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Him Really, yeah eighteen year old.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: Kid, dude he gives everybody. Problems gilbert uh wow was
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: THROWN rdr. Around isn't a wild.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: When there's like some weird young phenom that is just
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: so much better than they're supposed to be when they're. Young,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: dude it's really odd when there's you're around those.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: Guys there's, three there's three or four of them that,
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: DUDE i missed them a, lot like When i'm not
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: like WHEN i WHEN i Left florida. One they are
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: such loyal humans like you barely find that, nowadays as you,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: know like you don't you don't find too many loyal.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: Guys and when they, say like my, brother they don't
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: care if you're, White, Black, indian what your ethnicity, is
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: what's your, religion they don't. Care they care about. You and,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: dude when WHEN i got into it Was marvin at
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: the at the, casino answer wasn't even old enough to get,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: in so he was, like, brother IF i would have been,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: THERE i hit, him no problem. Then but there's Like
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: nikita M, john which is answer his best. Friend and
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: there's Like. Islam there's a couple of them THAT. Salaiav
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: there's like three to. Five And i'm telling you these,
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: guys especially Like Umran, john there he.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Is, well that's a hell of a. Shot oh my,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: goodness he is so. Good oh my. Goodness look how
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: smooth he took that dude's.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: Back he just he just thought a couple of weeks,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: ago knocked some dude out in the first, round and.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: That one's so. Smooth. Man oh my. Goodness oh he
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: is on that, back so. Quick, answer so. Good you,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: know there's a one thing that these guys have in
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: common is they're all from a hard part of the,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: world a fucking rough him part of the.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: World him and his best, Friend Umran, john they they
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: left home at LIKE i think he was, seventeen eighteen years.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: Old they just left. Home we asked, him like a,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: bro why'd you leave? Home how'd you leave? Home, like
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: how'd you get? Here they both said the same.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: Thing they look at out he's out. Referee he's a.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: Savage he trains a hundred. Percent he don't know anything
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: other than one hundred percent every. Day who multiple, times
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: but we asked, him like brow NOW i think he's eighteen, Nineteen, Max, wow,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: dude he's a.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Savage he looks. Good he's very. Good he looks. Good
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: there's another. One if you're that good at, eighteen my, goodness.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: He's going to be a. Stud it's going to be
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 4: like he's.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Thirty.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: DUDE i tell him all the, time, like, man if
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: you just learn how to just take a breath and
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: just be a little bit patient in certain, positions.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: Because that'll come.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: Exactly but, man he's he he's fighting good guys, already
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: like they all they all want to fight. Him Uman
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: John Uman john was fighting like one or two weight
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: classes up and he had a draw with a guy
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: and he thought it was like you would to think
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: he lost the love of his. Life he had a
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: draw because he was two weight classes, up and, uh, like,
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: bro why don't you fight at your? Wait, BROTHER i just.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: SMASH i want to fight, everyone every, one and they
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: can't get. Fights they can barely ever get.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Fights so it's hard for females to get. Fights to
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: the amateurs and in the lower, organizations a lot of
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: people don't realize that it's really.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: Hard, yeah they come to me to match and you
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: got to pay the other guy more to fight because
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 4: like they already know like what it. Is and, yeah
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: it was. Hard it was very hard.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: And so what wait is he at?
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: NOW i think he's at forty. Five damn forty. Five
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 4: that's his last one right. THERE i, think, no, no
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: that's not.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: Big take. Time look at the Dudes harry's.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: Fighting that's what he does to.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Everyone oh my, goodness that is a crazy. Takedown he's so.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: EXCITING i can't believe dudes are still holding onto guillotines
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: when people get into side. Control how many times they
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: want watch Ovin Saint proof. Fight you, know it's crazy
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: how many people still do. That they still keep that
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: guillotine while guy's in side. Control, yeah that is a death, sentence,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: like and some people don't cash in on, it but
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: it's if you just sense those hands, together he can't
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: get that ham. Out that's. It turn on your, side that's.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: It it's it's almost like giving up your neck, exactly
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: if someone like gave up their. Back everybody, like what
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: are you? Doing that's like what you're doing if you're
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: holding onto a guillotine and the guy's in side, control
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: it literally is like giving up your back and exposing your.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Neck it's kind of, crazy it.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: Is BUT i see these kids like, this And i'm
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: just LIKE i used to be that. Kid but these
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: guys are even, better you know WHAT i. Mean like
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: it's scary how evolution. Is but LIKE i, said, MAN
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: i asked these. KIDS i was, like, man why'd you leave?
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: Home how'd you leave? Home how'd you get? Here him
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 4: and his best friend left. Together their story both same,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: thing different. Times like, brother we just left one day our.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: Parents we told our parents were going to the, store
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 4: never came.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: Back what you, know and just moved To.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 4: America, Yeah like they somehow got here and they've been,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: here and, dude they work during the, day they move,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: stuff like they work for a moving, company and then they,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: trained so they train in the, morning they, go they, train,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 4: train then they go work all, night all through the,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: night moving, stuff try whatever they have to, do whatever
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: their work. Is but most of the TIME i see
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: them moving stuff and then they come back train the next.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: Day and they do this every single, day working their ass. Off,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: man it's super impressive and it's super motivating, too but
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: it's it just lets you, know like like for, ME
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 4: I u to be that young cat like everyone was
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: twenty four to twenty, Five i'm seventeen, Eighteen, yeah And
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: i'm doing What i'm doing and NOW i see these
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: kids And i'm, like, damn so that's what it was
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 4: like when the older guys are looking at. Me but
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: these guys are better.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: To forget when they get like complacent in their career
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: and they become like a journeyman and they forget what
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: it's like to be young and, hungry and then they'll
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: train with someone and that'll either make them retire or
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: it'll reinvigorate.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 4: Them it's it's awesome because if.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: You're around like people that are that, driven it becomes.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Contagious it really, does especially if you know that a
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: guy is working all day and training that, hard like
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: you got no, excuses, Right and it's also just like
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: a when you're around people like, that there's a an
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: energy it catches. You it's like for sure loves. You
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: when it's, wake it.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 4: Does you're right one hundred. Percent because LIKE i get
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 4: in my modes WHERE i don't want to do. Nothing
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: i'm just, like, man screw, This i've done this long,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 4: enough like. Whatever but THEN i GO i go back
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: and like, say, today for, INSTANCE i went and train
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: With Nikki. Rod they whooped my. ASS i ain't gonna
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: lie to you they whoop my ass AND i told
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 4: them AFTER i was, like it should be a you
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 4: go just whooped me that Bad and they're, like, yeah
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: but you ain't done, nothing and you know you don't
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 4: do peer jiu jitsu, anymore like we're the best in the,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: world like some of the best in the world that
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: peer jiu. JITSU i was, like, yeah but STILL i
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be getting walk like that and uh.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: But it just makes almost. EVERYBODY i love. It, man
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: he's so big and he's such a freak.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: DUDE i told him, TODAY i was, like how are
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: you this big and move like? This this is, legal.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: Dude gordon told. Me there was a position once they
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: were doing where they were working from the back And
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: gordon had his back And nicky flipped over the top
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: of him and wound up Behind gordon And gordon turns
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: To John donnaher and, goes what the fuck AM i
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: supposed to do with? That, like what DO i do
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: if that? Happens it's, like, Well donnaher was, like, well
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: nobody could do that other Than. Nicky, dude that's how
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: crazy that. Is he's so sick that nutsut is do
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: a backflip from your. KNEES i couldn't and go over
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: the top of someone who's got your.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: BACK i can't even separate the.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Hands somehow know that he separated the hands and flipped over,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: him And gordon was, like, okay Because gordon would be
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: the first to tell. You even though he's the best
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: in the world and the best ever and nogay jiu,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: jitsu he's not an explosive. Guy, yeah he's. Not he was,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Like i'm not a good.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: Athlete he's, intelligent, though super super intelligent. Smart, yeah he's
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: super intelligent. Smart i've listened to some of his like
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 4: instructionals before and, like, UH i know he did one
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: At rufuspor a long time. Ago and the guys told
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: me after BECAUSE i was obviously at, home and they're, like,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: bro he was in a wheelchair BECAUSE i guess he
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 4: had a surgery at the, time and he was in
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 4: a chair and his lady was teaching like she was
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: teaching for, him and he was walking through every single.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: Position they they all everyone said that was the best
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: seminar they ever been. To he didn't he didn't get
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: down there and teach one move.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: That'dible that's. INCREDIBLE i was, like that's. Impressive well you
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: if you could do a seminar from a, Wheelchair Jesus, christ, dude.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: Impressive you. Know wagner says the same. Thing he's, like,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 4: bro he's the best guy ever trained, with learned from.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 4: Anything He's he's. Amazing So i've heard it from a.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 4: Lot i've heard a lot of good.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: Guy, though that's three hundred sixty five days a year of,
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: training because, period there's no days. Off fuck Your, christmas
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: fuck your, birthday there is no days, off which is so. Crazy,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: YEAH i think Of but the way they put, it
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: and the way donnaher put, it is, like if you
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: are training two hundred days a, year that is a,
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: lot but you will not be able to beat a
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: guy who's training three hundred and sixty five days a
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: year because he has one hundred and sixty five more
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: training sessions a. Year so over the course of two,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: years now he has you, know three hundred plus then four.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Hundred it keeps going and, going so over the course
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: of five, years like he's trained so much more than.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: You it's, true and it's not just. Training it's like
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: when they're not physically, training they're going over tape all day,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: right which is like it's hard to do that and
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: to keep your mind focused on. That they're writing things,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: down they're going over. Positions it's not just all hard physical.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: Work it's. Intelligent it's a lot of breaking things, down
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of like the finer points of technique and.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: Positioning it's it's funny you say, that because it's like for,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: me like when we were talking earlier about how like
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: time off it reinvigorates your.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: Mind it's, like that's what it does for. Me LIKE
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: i probably do a hundred reps in a day of
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 4: like things That i've screwed up, on like throwing a jab,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: wrong or leaving my hand, down or like in my,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: head my mental, reps and then somehow WHEN i do
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: go train, again it's just so, weird like my body
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: just automatically does. It like SAY i throw the job
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: AND i just bring it back to my. CHEST i
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: don't want it, THERE i want it on my. CHIN
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 4: i do so many mental reps of this for like
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: a week or two weeks however, Long i'm. Out by
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 4: the TIME i spar, Again i'm not doing it no.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: More LIKE i do so many mental reps focus on
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: such little, details but then outside of, THAT i really
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: take my. TIME i try to take my time away from,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: fighting like When i'm not training for the most, part
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 4: like especially like the month after the. FIGHT i don't
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: want to hear about. FIGHTING i don't want to talk about.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: Fighting that's WHY i stay away From like most people
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 4: that don't know, ME i don't want to talk because
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: anytime they see, Me oh what do you think about this?
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: Fight what's? NEXT i don't. Know, Man LIKE i just
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 4: want to, YEAR i just want to motivation. EXACTLY i
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 4: just want to be with my. FAMILY i want to
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: be a normal person because one day fighting is not
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 4: going to be there for. Me it's always been there
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: for me SINCE i was thirteen WHEN i had anxiety about, something, stress,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 4: heartbreak whatever it. Is it's always been there for, me
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: and that's WHEN i always. Grew but it's. Not the
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: end is a lot closer than the, beginning right you.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 4: Know that's that's Where i'm met in my, life AND
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: i know. That So i'm trying to make the most
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 4: of it and.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: Try but you think about like high, end you got ten,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: years if that's really, Possible maybe it's. Not, usually and
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: usually the last few are rough because the last few,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: year Like anderson after he broke his leg right. Right
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: SO i say there's like Two. Anderson's There's anderson Pre
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: wideman and Post. Wideman for, sure there's the knockout Or
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: widmen caught him at the left, hook and then there's
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: the leg break in the, rematch and then from then
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: he's never Been anderson. Again, Correct AND i think the
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: injury has a lot to do with, it but it's
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: also father. TIME i don't think we Got anderson in
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: THE ufc till he was thirty.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: Four it was a while because he was already big
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 4: on the other.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Sees huge. Bro that was one of them fights where
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: people didn't really Know anderson that, well and he was
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Fighting Chris, leeban and the odds Were anderson was the,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: favorite but not by. Enough AND i was telling my, friend,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: like bet the house on The. BRAZILIAN i go bet the. House,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: yeah because he was coming off of that remember cage,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: Rage so he was coming off of The Lee murray.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Fight he was coming off who did he fight over
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: there as? Well he Fought Jorge rivera that was a big.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Fight there was A Tony fricklin one where he did
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: that crazy step in.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: Elbow oh, yeah that's all the highlight of. THAT i
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 4: didn't know that was his, name BUT i know the.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Elbow talking about that, elbow do you know he had
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: a practice with his wife because his coach wouldn't let
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: him try. It, really his coach was, like stop doing.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: That you're not gonna do. That he, Goes i'm gonna
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: hit him with. This he's, like, no you're not gonna do.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: That stop training. That so we didn't want to train.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: That so he told his wife to hold a. Pillow
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: so his wife was holding a pillow at home and
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: he was going like this over and over. Again he
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: wanted to do some box. Shit what a great, story
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: how that Was anderson, like people didn't people saw him
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: in his. Prime for, sure obviously he's one of the
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: greatest of all, time but for sure they didn't see
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: that transition to him becoming in his. Prime and that
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: was in cage, rage because he had some really good
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: fights In. Pride but then when he went to cage,
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: rage like something flip, man you know how it has
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Like oliver era when it happened to him after he
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: had his. Kid you, know something flips sometimes when a
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: fighter just locks in and then they become who they really, Are.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah who everyone in around them knows in the, gym
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: but no one else has seen. It It's, uh it's,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: Weird LIKE i always say that about, Myself LIKE i still.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: Haven't i'm still not the guy that everyone knows in the.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 4: GYM i show a little bit more every, time But
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 4: i'm not even that that.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Guy, well maybe this changing of environment and coaching will
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: allow you to hit that spot.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: The coaching like you were talking about, earlier, Right it
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: has been the hardest thing for me to let, go
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 4: like of control and give it to someone, else but it.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 4: Took it was kind of one of those. Things i'm
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: Met harassio And mike AND i have obviously a lot
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 4: of trust and a lot of faith In. Belaw i've
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: known him for a long time AND i see what he's.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: Done BUT i met these guys And max. TOO i
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 4: met him for five days WHEN i was With blah And,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: uh to watch sit back and watch them also have
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: my own interactions with, them it just felt, like you,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: know one of those things you just feel like your friends,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: instantly like you known each other, forever and that's kind
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: of what that connection was with. Them so, honestly it
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: was a little bit easier than normal to let go,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: of like the control of like controlling What i'm gonna
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: do When i'm gonna do, it the.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: Strategy did you think about other camps as? Well did
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: you think ABOUT.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: I didn't THINK i was gonna. Leave to be honest with,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: YOU i didn't THINK i was gonna Leave. FLORIDA i
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 4: was just going there to help my friend and just
• 1:48:42
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• 1:48:43
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• 1:48:51
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  Speaker 4: EVERYTHING i helped him for a few, days and THEN
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  Speaker 4: i went. BACK i Fought, marvin AND i was AT
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: i did two or three weeks with At, chicago two.
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  Speaker 4: WEEKS i did two. Weeks excuse, ME i did two,
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• 1:49:16
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  Speaker 4: Me THEN i fought The rider he was, there AND
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 4: i was, LIKE i don't. Know it didn't sit. Well with,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: me how all that stuff, went like how he got
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: there and, everything and everyone was, like, oh why is
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: he fighting? Him their, Teammates AND i told everyone from the,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: beginning like you can Ask Gilbert burns because he said
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 4: it on his little podcast thing he. DID i always,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: Said i'm not going to train with, Him i'm gonna
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 4: fight him one. Day i'm, good no. ANIMOSITY i just
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: don't need no more, Friends LIKE i just. DON'T i
• 1:49:49
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• 1:49:51
  Speaker 4: With Joe, Pifer Gregory, rodriguez By, singer those are guys
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: that are gonna be at the top or at the
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: top that we have agreements only for a. Belt i'll
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 4: fight anyone on this planet for a, belt, anyone AND
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: i expect the same in return because it could change
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: their lives or my.
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  Speaker 1: Own you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, yeah so they know that about. Me but no
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  Speaker 4: matter what the time frame, is if you say yes
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: to me or you say my, name we're gonna. Fight that's. It,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 4: like that's how that's HOW i. Feel but those guys
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: are the guys THAT i have with and now they're
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: all coming to the. Top so it's, like you, know
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 4: someday it's it's probably gonna. Happen so it's, LIKE i don't.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of, shit like guys won't fight.
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  Speaker 4: Friends, yeah But i'll fight for a belt, though anyone
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  Speaker 4: on the whole. Planet God, Zilla i'll fight for the whole.
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  Speaker 4: BELT i don't. Care and god And i'll fight him
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 4: for a. BELT i don't, care like you know WHAT i,
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  Speaker 4: Mean like it could change my whole, life like my,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 4: families you. Know, Yeah so Like i'm very realistic because,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 4: obviously even if you love to do this at this,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: level it's about the money, Too like you, know it's financial, freedom.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: Making intelligent choices because one slip up could set you
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: back two.
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  Speaker 4: Years, Yeah i'm learning.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: That, YEAH i learned that the hard. Way, well that's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: also important to, learn. Right it's also important to have those.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: Setbacks those setbacks are some of the most important growth
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: points in your, career in anybody's, career if you do it.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: Right like those setbacks are when you feel that ugliness
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: and then you really have to assess what could have done?
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Differently what AM i doing? Wrong what is there something
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: about my mindset or something about my? Diet is there
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: something about my? Recovery AM i doing too much of?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: This or too little of. That you have to have
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: that pain if everything is just going. Great the thing
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: going into the fight Was. Aspinall's every fight other than
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: The Curtis blades fight was a one round. Fight it
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: was him blowing guys, out and so no one really
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen if we got into round,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: three round, four round, five and so that question's always
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: hovering over the. Head when a guy like, you who's
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: been in those wars and been in the, trenches you've
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: already had that's a. Blessing it really is a blessing
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: because it gives you not just the motivation to return
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: better than you were. Before like look At bone after he, lost,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: right he loses To, deritter comes back and Smokes Udolfo
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  Speaker 1: vieira looked like a different, guy looks like a different.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Guy why because of? That there's a blessing in. Losing
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: there's a blessing in. Failure there really, is because if
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: you can swallow, it it will give you a fucking
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: furnace inside you to come back stronger if you can swallow.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: It but some guys can't swallow. It they choke on
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: it and they cry and maybe their confidence gets shattered
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: and they're never the same, again or maybe they, go
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: why AM i doing? THIS i could be a. CARPENTER
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  Speaker 1: i always wanted to play. Drums i've thought of.
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  Speaker 4: THAT i thought of, that BUT i don't want to
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  Speaker 4: go back to being a. Carpenter i'm good with.
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  Speaker 1: THAT a guy Like tom, aspinall when he gets to
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: a fight with a guy Like innghanu or a guy
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: who's going to be, there those Questions And i'm not
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: saying that he wouldn't. Succeed i'm not saying he wouldn't,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: win but those questions might be in your head because
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: you haven't been in those high profile wars before where
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: you came up.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: Short you, KNOW i still get those. Questions i'm such
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: a perfectionist AND i know nothing will ever be, perfect
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: BUT i want as close to it AS i can.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: Get This STILL i find. SOMETHING i will always find
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: something to be. Negative but what's helped me IS i
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: had a sports psychiatrist for a. While he was great
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: AND i learned a lot with, Him and for, me
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: it's it's been about Like i'm very like open with
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: people THAT i care about and THAT i know care
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: solely about. Me they're not worried about IF i win
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: or lose or you, know all that, stuff the. Fame
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: they're not worried about. That they care about me as a,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: person and that was something that was great With ballah
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 4: And harassi and all the guys In, Chicago, Mike, max you,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: know we talk. Regularly how are you, man how's the?
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: Family everything? Good how's How But i'm very open with
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: them leading up to the. Fight like there's a clip
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: from behind the scenes of the last fight Where I'm
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: i'm open and they catch it like it's just me being.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: Vulnerable WHO i?
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 4: AM i was too manly or, whatever trying to suppress
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 4: it before where it just grew into something bigger AND
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: i would mentally shut. Down malcoun was the worst fight
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: for me for. THAT i was shaking in the bed
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: the night, before LIKE i thought LIKE i was, freezing
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: BUT i. WASN'T i was so nervous of, LIKE i
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: can't lose to this. Guy he's not on my. Level
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 4: and THEN i go out there and perform not that.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: Well so your mind was fucking. You, Yeah BECAUSE i.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 4: Find one negative thing AND i just focus AND i
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 4: make it.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: HUGE i think it's. Good SOMETIMES i think it's good,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes but it's it's like almost like you have to
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: be critical but yet also, confident.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: Right AND i would take my confidence away by by
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: focusing on it but being able to talk about. It like,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: again they had that. MOMENT i have it on My
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 4: instagram that they made a clip or whatever for, me
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: and it Was it's just literally it was two nights
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: before the, fight three nights before the, fight and we're
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 4: talking And i'm telling them he could get me, down he,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 4: could he could finish. Me but if he finishes me
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 4: on the, ground he's got to be just that. Good
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: But i'm, nervous, Man i'm nervous That i'm not gonna
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 4: go out here and perform to WHAT i know THAT
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: i can. Do that's to, me that's the. WORST i
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 4: don't mind losing to someone that's better than. ME i
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 4: can take. IT i haven't found that man, yet BUT
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 4: i know it's gonna. Happen but to lose to someone
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: truly better than, ME i can accept. It but to
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: lose to, myself, oh, man to look in the, mirror
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 4: it eats me.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: ALIVE i think those things that can creep into your
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: head before a fight WHERE i don't want to. LOSE
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: i don't want to disappoint. PEOPLE i don't want to do.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: This then that is a really bad time to have those.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: Thoughts it's not a bad time to have those thoughts
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: when you're working on. Stuff it's not a bad time
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: to have those. Thoughts like if you're really trying to
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: motivate yourself to get up in the morning and run
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: or whatever it, is like to really get after it
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: in strength and. Conditioning but when you're, fighting like you
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: have to have a strategy of how to squash those
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: thoughts when they come, up and it CAN i mean
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: it's not just. Fighting anybody who's listening to. This anything
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: in life that you have to do that's really difficult
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: and scares.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 7: You you got to know how to squash negative thoughts before
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 7: they burn your house, Down like when you see the,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 7: fire stop that bitch out, quick stomp it out, quick
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 7: and then make sure that you're starting to really only
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 7: focus on positive.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: Things never let it getcause those little creepy demon thoughts
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: they'll get in and then they start running, around they
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: start running, around they start screaming and taking over your.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: Brain you're, like get out of my, head get out
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: of my. Head but they already in. There you let him.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: In you let him, in and sometimes they have to
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: burn your house down before you realize what the danger
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: is of them getting inside your, head, Right and so
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: then the next time you've got to come up with
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: a strategy to squash it before it gets too.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: Crazy we did a lot of like at the beginning
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 4: of like sports, psychiatrists like that was one, thing, Right
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: LIKE i would suppress it right away and suppress, it
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: and they try to creep back, through And i'd suppress it.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: Again but then it just gets bigger and stronger to
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 4: where it can just come. Out and you don't know
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: when it's gonna come. Out it could be the night
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: of the, fight it could be the day before the,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: fight could be in the, fight you. Know so it's
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: like taking it in whatever that emotion is for, you dissecting,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: it like literally get to the root of why you think, This, like,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: OH i think he can knock me out IF i dissect, It, well,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: yeah he's knocked a lot of guys. Out but anyone
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 4: can knock anyone, out, right anyone. Can so what are
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 4: you nervous? Of you've done this like for me over thirty,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: Times like what are you worried. About you fought on
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: the biggest, Level you've main, Invented you're you're ranked in the.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: World you fought some of the best in the. World,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: like what are you worried?
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: About demon sneak into your?
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: Brain, yeah you, know and ONCE i dissect, It i've
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 4: worked on it like that so. Well and being open
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: and honest with my coaches and like the people that
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: care about and they care about me has been such
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: a great like thing for. Me i'm kind of the
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: guy like sometimes like Just i've learned about myself is just,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: like just let me. Talk Sometimes i'm not a big,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: talker but just let me. Talk if you don't even say.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: Nothing but, damn that's all, right. Bro that's Why tuco
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: who always see me with normally he's always with. Me,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 4: Bro he's the best at just like listening to. Me
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 4: like it's not very, often but WHEN i do want to,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 4: talk like they, Bro, like he'll ask me what's, wrong
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 4: BUT i don't think you want to hear it?
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: Today Like i'm.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 4: Good he'll ask me that a couple of. Times Eventually
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: i'll just let it out and Then i'm.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: Good i'm. Good like you have to tell, somebody what
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: what's going on side your? Head and if you keep
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: it inside your, head there's the. Wings the wings are,
• 1:58:04
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• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: It so it's like that's been great for, me that
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: that's really helped in. It you, Know i've had a
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: couple of younger kids that have asked, me how's? That
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: AND i turned them on to my god.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: IT i used to use what did you do with the,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: psychiatrist like how did what were the? Sessions like we.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: Would talk about things like, this he'd have worksheets and
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: stuff like, this but you know what really really sunk.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: In so first we worked on like learning to catch
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: emotions he called it something but learning to catch different
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 4: emotions before they grow so you can dissecting the. Fire, yeah.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 4: Exactly so like recognizing first is recognizing anything you have to.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 4: Recognize if you recognize it thirty minutes the first, time all,
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 4: right let's try for twenty five the next. Time don't
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 4: let it like you thought on it for thirty minutes
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 4: and they're, like what AM i thinking about? This let's
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 4: do twenty. Five so keep it until you can get
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 4: it like right. Away then we dissect it and then
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 4: we move on about our. Day things that helped me
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 4: at the beginning were, like does.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: It help you talking with a different, person like another
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: person about this rather than just bounce it off your own? Head,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: yes for. Sure something about talking to another person makes it.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 4: Real, Yeah and it just like gets it, out Like
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 4: i'm holding it, in holding it, in holding it. In
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 4: as soon AS i. Talk it's like it's literally like
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 4: leaving my, body like the stress just kind of like
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 4: and sometimes they have like good things to, say like
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 4: things like like that my sports psychiast is the one
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 4: that told me those, things, Like, bro you've done this
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 4: how many times he fought these?
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: Guys like did he ever work with? Fighters?
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: Before he was working with a small team In New
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 4: orleans and now he like he's got other guys in
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 4: THE ufc now because they would ask me AND i
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 4: turned him on and he's he's. Great his name Is.
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 4: Eric he's really. Great he's From New.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: Orleans BECAUSE i would think if a guy was like
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: a sports, psychiatrist like, tennis it's like some things would carry,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: over but it's a very different.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: Thing and he trained as, well he grew up wrestling and.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 4: Stuff percy then exactly and it just it just uh
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 4: it worked out.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 4: MAN i learned a, Lot LIKE i kind of figured
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 4: out what worked for. Me SO i was, like all,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 4: right AND i get so. Busy but another thing he
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 4: gave me, was, uh you read it the, day like
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 4: after you weigh, in you read it and then you,
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 4: Finish like it has a part where it says read
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 4: up to this, point and then you read this the
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 4: rest of the section the day of the. Fight and
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 4: IT'S i forget the. AUTHOR i have it in my
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: phone somewhere that he sent me a long time, ago
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 4: AND i would read it before every fight everyone at
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 4: like The. Apex when we was in The apex all the,
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 4: Time i'd weigh in and we had to wait that
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: like two hours till like we can face off if
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 4: you weigh in. First And i'd sit there And i'd
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 4: read it and it was like an. Author and he
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 4: talks a lot about like different sports and like like
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 4: one of his main basic things is like. Hope the word,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 4: hope hold on possibilities, exists like don't ever think it's
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 4: over it's. Done don't ever SAY i have to do,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: SOMETHING i want to do. SOMETHING i don't have to
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 4: the moment you start PUTTING i have to is the
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 4: moment you, start like he, says like put like, change
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: you hit the emergency stop, button the emergency break on your,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: car like you gotta let it. Off you're not performing
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: at your best with other, Things so like stuff like
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 4: that really like sets in AND i try to remind.
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 4: Myself so like reminding myself of those. Things talking about
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: it is really like what helps.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Me is it a? Book it's like a little pampoy, Pamphlet,
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: yeah kind of how who wrote?
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 4: It it's in my. PHONE i can find it.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 1: Well just like so other people can look at it
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: because it sounds pretty. Powerful it was, great, man and
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: if it helped. You there's there's a lot of like
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: hokey sort of self help stuff. Online you, know be fucking,
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: man go out and get it, done and there's there's
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: a wolf in saw to you and all that kookie.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: Shit but the reality is there's a lot of wisdom
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: out there. Too there's a lot of like you could
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: read meditations By Marcus aurelius and literally learn how to
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: live a better. Life, like there's a lot of stuff out.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: There it's very. Beneficial so when someone like yourself has
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: something that really helped. THEM i think it's probably good
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: to put it out there so other people could get.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: It you, know it's so.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 4: Crazy Now i'm looking through like the documents and stuff
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 4: that he sent, me like mindfulness was the WORD i
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: was looking for when you catch it like on, this
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 4: like stuff like.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: That but it's. Funny mindfulness is one of them co opted.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: Words it's been co opted like gratitude and. Spirituality it's
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 1: one of the words that like too many kookie people. Use,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: yeah exactly what he would be the first he told.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 4: ME i was, LIKE i don't tell me what crazy, ship,
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 4: Bro i'm not that kind of, guy you.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: Know like you hit me with no?
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 4: Mindfulness, Man but, Look i'm going through right, here right
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 4: and he just me stuff right before a, fight or
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 4: like he'd send me YouTube. Links look at the second
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 4: one from the.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: Top, uh who is it with? Me David.
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 4: Goggins he sent me that like stuff like stuff like.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: This goggins is a perfect example that he says things
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: all the time THAT i think Of jocko When i'm
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: When i'm working out And i'm really, TIRED i think
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: of this One jocko video where it's called Good have
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: you ever seen that video you want to get fired? Up,
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: YEAH i want to see. It we play that we
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: get fired. Up this is one of my all time favorite.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: Videos you Know, jocko, Right. Jocko, Yeah So, jocko you,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: know was A navy seal and uh. Was he's got
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: a book called Uh Extreme, ownership and it's just the
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: way he, thinks the way he carries himself. Is it's
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: so it's so beneficial if you can adopt this that
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: there's sometimes Where i'm training Where i'm fucking really really
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: tired AND i want to. QUIT i think Of jocko
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: AND i, go, good you're. Tired that means you're going
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: to get. Stronger listen to. This this is.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 8: Direct subbord and it's one of my guys that work for.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 8: Me he would he would call me up or pull
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 8: me aside with some major, problems some issue that was going,
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 8: on and he'j.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: Possibly got this and that and the other.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 8: Thing AND i look at him And i'd say. Good
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 8: and finally one day he was telling me about some
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 8: issue that he was, having some problem and he, SAID
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 8: i already know what you're going to. Say AND i, said,
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 8: well what AM i going to? Say he, Said you're
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 8: going to say. Good he, said that's what you always
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 8: say when something is wrong and going.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 4: Bad you always just look at me and say.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 8: Good AND i, said, well, yeah when things are going,
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 8: bad there's going to be some good that's gonna come from.
• 2:04:15
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• 2:04:19
  Speaker 8: good didn't get. Promoted, good more time to get. Better,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 8: oh mission got. Canceled, good we can focus on another.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 8: One didn't get, funded didn't get the job you, wanted got,
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 8: injured strained my, ankle got tapped. Out, good got Beat,
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 8: GOOD i learned.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: Unexpected. Problems.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 8: Good we have the opportunity to figure out a.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: Solution that's.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 8: It when things are going, bad don't get all bummed,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 8: out don't get, startled don't get. Frustrated if you can
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 8: say the word.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: Good guess what it. Means you're still. Alive it means
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: you're still. Breathing and if you're still, breathing.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 8: Well the hell you still got some fight left in.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 6: You so get, up dust, off, reload, recalibrate re, engage.
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: And go out on the. Attack oh that play that
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: one when you're in the FUCKING i don't know if
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: it's a. Document, okay so it's called house sports psychology
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: can help you do your best when it means the
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: most unedited. Copy who is the? Author So i'd, say,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: Oh Rob, Gilbert Rob, gilbert. PhD Montclair State, University, Montclair New. Jersey,
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: okay it's pretty. Cool, God i'll ask you to send me.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 4: That of.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: COURSE i love shit like. That it's there's little things
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: like that you can carry in your toolbox and they
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: can help, you and not just if you're a professional,
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 1: fighter but in basically everything in. Life it's. Been it
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: really helped change who fucking gets poked in the eye
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: more than that, Guy Jesus. Christ that guy has HAD
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: i think he's had something insane like nine eye.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 4: SURGERIES i know he's had three of the hard, ones
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 4: like of the he literally he told me the. Story
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 4: he had to drive home six hours his uh excuse.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 4: Me his wife came and got him and brought him.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 4: Home but this is a while. Back, uh he had
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 4: to drive six hours with his head like that because
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 4: something with the, pressure you can't sit straight up with.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: It it's it's he explained it to, me but it's
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 4: like it blows my.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: MIND i couldn't believe he got poked again by aing.
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: GEAR i couldn't believe. It the moment he got, Poked i'm,
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: LIKE i can't believe this is. HAPPENING i can't believe it's. Happened.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 4: DUDE i thought the same.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: Thing oh my, god look at the look at that
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: finger in his deep in his fucking. Eyeball that is so.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: Crazy that's so. Crazy so he said major surgeries on his, eyes.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: Yep and Then ian poked him like right, away AND
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: i was, like this is. CRAZY i don't know what you,
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: feel BUT i feel like it should be an instant
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: one point deduction at least every.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 4: Time at LEAST i like what Talan asminal. Said he was, like,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 4: no you part me in my you want me to, Continue,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 4: okay no, PROBLEM i get to poke him in his.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: EYE i was, like a lot of people are talking About,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: tom but he apparently still can't, see like his eyes
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: still fucked, Up like no one. Knows here's the. Thing the.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: Eye the other eye got hurt as, well but not as,
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: bad but it looks way. Worse the finger goes way
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: deeper in the other. Eye, DUDE i poked. It he
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: went straight three, stooges and you.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 4: Know it's crazy that everyone that talks the most shit
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 4: has never been poked in the, eye not even a
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 4: little bit like. Accidentally oh it's.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: Horrible you. Know it's like a bolt of lightning in your.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: Brain and then you can't, see and if the idea
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: that you can't, see and then you're supposed to fight a. Guy,
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: also you're fighting a guy In Ian gary who has
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: a fucking nasty left. Hand so if you get poked
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: in your eyeball and you can't see that, punch come,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: well he's got a nasty right hand. TOO i, Mean
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 1: Ian gary can. Strike oh, god that's right. There look at.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: That so look at the right, one the, one excuse,
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: me the left eye that's, Deeper and that one didn't
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: get hurt as. Bad it's his right eye that really got.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: Hurt the left one is like finger knuckle deep in his. Eyeball, man,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: dude it's, crazy you.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 4: Know Like ballall is like one of those guys you
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 4: talk about three sixty, five twenty four to. Seven he's,
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 4: ready he's doing something. Always i'm even, like, bro take a, Break,
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 4: bro you've earned a little. Break take a week, off
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 4: be with, you with your. Family you know he won't.
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: Well at his stage of his life. Life it might
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: be the only way to keep going because he's at
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: like thirty eight, now, right, yeah something like. That it's
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 1: really like that's the same age as, usman and you,
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: know you can still be a world class fighter at that.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: Age you could clearly see that With kamorrow Against Joaquin,
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: Buckley like a lot of people counted him out Because
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: Joaquin buckley was fucking a lot of. People, Yeah Joaquin,
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: buckley bro, whoo that guy's a. Problem he's a fucking.
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: Problem i've known him for a. Minute, Man he's he's
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: wild and, fast and he keeps getting better and he's
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: really fucking he's really fucking intelligent about how to land.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: Shots he knows how to set things, up like he
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 1: loves to, fight and he's you, know he's just just
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: a dog just in the. Fight. Man he's always, dangerous
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: that wonder boy. Fight you, know he's that a little
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: having a little bit problem solving that distance in that
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: range until he didn't until he, man bro that dude's
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: got hammers in his. Fist. Yes so when Watching kamaru
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: just ragged all him like, THAT i was like. Impressing fuck,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: yeah it looked Like tomorrow world champion level. Tomorrow like
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have kind of counted him out
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: because there's this narrative that he puts out there openly
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: about his. Knees. Yeah, oh he talked about it on
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: this podcast. Openly his knees are. Fucked he's, LIKE i
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: gotta go downstairs backwards. Sometimes, yeah they hurt so.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 4: MUCH i heard he went and did like a lot
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 4: of stuff to like redo, them and now he says they're.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 4: Good but DON'T i don't. KNOW i don't.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: Know, WELL i know he went To. Columbia he went
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: down to that bioaccelerator place In. COLOMBIA i don't know
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: if he's been to the place In. Tijuana THE UFC
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: uses now The Cellular Performance, institute but they're all very.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: Similar we're being held back to such a fucking ridiculous
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: extent in this country by THE fda that you don't
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: realize how many people with neurological, conditions how many people
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: with severe, injuries how many people could be helped by stem,
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 1: cells and there there's no evidence that they're damaging. People
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: there's no evidence other THAN i, mean, look anytime you
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: have any invasive, procedure anytime you have a, surgery and
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: there's always some risk that something can go. Wrong there's
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: always a risk in any medical, procedure but there's no
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: outstanding risks versus reward to stem. Cells on the, contrary
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 1: the evidence is outstanding, results including like some of the
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: things Doctor Neil reardon has been doing down In panama
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: with people that have like severe neurological, problems guys that
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: have HAD, cte like, real, real real bad fucking other
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: than just injuries and then even injuries like my mom
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: had a really bad knee AND i sent her down
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: there and it got a lot. BETTER i sent it down,
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: there realise a lot. Better Mel, gibson his dad couldn't.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 1: Walks he was like almost, ninety he was like eighty years.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: Old and then he went down got his hips done
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: His Neil neil did his, shoulders his, hips a bunch
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: of other stuff and Did mel as, well and he's, like,
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: no my dad was like up and walking around like
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: five years later still like like he was ten years.
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: Younger like he's a great. Actor by the, Way, Oh,
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: mel he's the. Man he's the. MAN i love that.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: Guy he's crazy, too he's so. Interesting he's such a.
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: Heat that guy's got like a fucking tornado going around
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: in his brain all the. Time, Really oh, yeah, YEAH
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: i think that's why it's such a good. Director. Man
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: did you ever See? Apocalypto, yeah one of my. FAVORITES
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: i fucking love that.
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 4: Movie, same it's one of my FAVORITE i love that movie.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: Too such a good, movie, man such a Good movie's great.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: ONES i, mean he made a movie where nobody Speaks
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: english exactly and it's a block busy and it's.
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 4: Amazing it's fucking.
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: Incredible it's FUCKING i love that.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 4: One but LIKE i like his old stuff, too Like braveheart.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: Amazing the christ was really good. Too The patriot was. Good,
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: Dude he's fucking he's the real. Deal.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 4: Man Mel gibson, story what's the one? HE i Think i'm,
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 4: crazy BUT i think it's think like a. Woman you
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 4: ever seen that? ONE i, did, not, Bro that is freaking.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: Hilarious what is?
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 4: It it's like he gets trapped in like he can
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 4: like read a woman's. Mind and so because like he's
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 4: basically a. Guy he, works he's a journalist or like
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 4: a publisher or something like, that and he's very like a,
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 4: womanizer like he hats women just like, whatever and they
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: always like talking shit about him behind his back like everyone.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 4: Else so now like he's trying to move up the. Ranks,
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 4: uh he's supposed to be next in line for a. Promotion,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 4: well he has his daughter come in and she leaves
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 4: that the the blow, dryer and he trips on, it
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 4: falls in the h the water gets electrocuted and he
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 4: wakes up and now he can hear all women's thoughts
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 4: and it like changes who he is as a. Person
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 4: that's it's, Amazing like she gets his. Promotion so now.
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: Two thousand, funny he's been great in a lot of
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: it was he was great in that conspiracy theory? Movie
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: was that? That what was? It Julia, Roberts, yeah he
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: was a wacky conspiracy theorist. GUY i don't THINK i
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: seen that. One it's pretty good theory that AND i
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: think like a lot of the things that he talked
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: about now it's like people openly discuss, online you, know
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 1: because this is all before the. Internet what year was,
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: that the ninety? Seven, yeah so there were no like
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory websites back.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 4: Then he has another he has another one where like
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 4: his wife, works his, Daughter i'm, sorry his daughter works
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 4: for this. Company she comes home and it's like this
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 4: one of those rich companies that like hide stuff but
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 4: you never can tell because you never have. Proof and
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 4: she's working in like a secret. Department she comes home
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 4: all frantic and the dude yells something shoots her with
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 4: a shotgun right on his front. Door, boom kills her so.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 4: Obviously then he goes and starts trying to figure everything.
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 4: Out and he starts figuring out like through the way
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 4: what the work was, doing and it was like poisoning or. Something, well,
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 4: anyway he finds the guy and ends up killing, him
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 4: but he ends up dying too because he got the
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 4: poison from wherever he went into the, workspace like he followed.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 4: It he was doing all kind of. Shit but it
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 4: was super cool.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: Too what move is? THAT i don't?
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 4: Know you know that movie where he shoots he shoots
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 4: his daughter on the front, Step like that's one of
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 4: The that was one of the things that sold them,
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 4: Movie like that was one of the.
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: Previews how about lead the? Weapon first time we ever
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: saw anybody do a triangle in a? Movie true?
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, dude that was.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 1: Crazy i'd love that. Scene like that, SCENE i was,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: like what is he. DOING i didn't even know what
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: a triangle was back, then BECAUSE i think that was
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: in the. EIGHTIES i wasn't even. Alive when Was when Was?
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: Lee when did lead the? Weapon? One come? Out edge Of?
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: Darkness that's the? WEAPON i think it's like, yeah, man
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: so back, then no one knew what a fucking triangle
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 1: was other than the. Crazies people In brazil. Knew brazil
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: was so far ahead of the. Curve. Man they were
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: having mma fights in the. Thirties, DUDE i.
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 4: WAS i went there for my Boy. Tuco he fought
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 4: in the, favela, right and uh, yeah look at.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 1: This he Was Gary, busey who was fighting in the.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: End who is the guy who's fighting in the? END
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: i don't. REMEMBER i think It's Gary, busey, right, yeah
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: it Is Gary.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 9: Busey you know he had a. Headache movies in.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: The eighties are so, wild.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 9: Dude, yeah.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 1: We don't need to watch the whole. Thing let's just
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: cut to the. Triangle this is, SILLY i Do, Oh
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 1: Garry busey tried to take it to the, ground. Outrageous
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: mel got swept so. Easily, Oh mel's on. Top everybody
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: was doing cocaine with their right.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 4: Move oh look at, that and he goes right for an.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 1: Armor oh, sloppy, terrible terrible left, foot the left leg
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: like barely held on. There that was Some that's not.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: Bad that's not. Bad that's pretty. GOOD i like that he. Got,
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: oh that's not bad at. All he's sentiing it up right.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: There everybody at home is, like what is?
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 4: Happening another man put his legs around another man's.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: HEAD i remember When Hoyst gracie did that To Dan.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: Severn everybody was, like what's going? On like what is?
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: Happening and then a sudden you See Dan severn. Tapping you're,
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: like what what? Happened what did he? Do put him?
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 4: Asleep my friend would know better the lineage and. Stuff,
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 4: right that's where he's my he's my. Intelligence but we
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 4: went To brazil right for his. Fight he was fighting
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 4: in the favella At Josi aldo's gym with No, yeah
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 4: it's like right on the edge of the. Favella it's nice. Though, yeah,
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 4: yeah he was. There he was super.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: Nice he's. Awesome he was super, nice supersable pioneer. Dude,
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: yes he was fighting him the main early, days but,
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: REALLY i oh my, god, Man, YEAH i just let
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 4: Him we met a lot of great, guys but we,
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 4: uh we were there With Daniel gracie AND i think
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 4: It's tenzo's mom and then his. Dad like the whole
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 4: lineage was there before he passed.
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: Away he was.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 4: There we went over there and we were sitting on their, couch,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 4: chilling hanging, out, talking meeting all of. Them and AGAIN
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 4: i am absolutely got all with, names BUT i, knew
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 4: like as soon as he come out of the, stairs
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 4: he was going. Somewhere he had Nicey. Jack oh, no
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 4: he was doing an interview with. Uh he was doing
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 4: an interview like a little podcast or. Something it was
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 4: all In. Portugu iuldn't understand what they were, saying but
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 4: they had met, him super. Nice and then LIKE i
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 4: think it was it wasn't too long after THAT i passed,
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 4: away but like that's like this one of the starts
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 4: Of gracie Jiu.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: Jitsu was It? Ilio was It? Carlos who was? IT
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: i think it Was. CARLOS i don't, know it doesn't.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 4: Matter it was one of, them, RIGHT i could figure
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 4: it out, Though, okay but, dude super. Nice like they
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 4: were all explaining like the, lineage AND i started with.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: What's, That?
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 4: Jamie oh, SORRY i started with like gracy jiu, Jitsu
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 4: so LIKE i used to know that lineage fairly, well
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 4: but then you know how life, is you just get
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 4: away and kind of forgetting out around it as.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: Much but, yeah well it's a crazy. LINEAGE i mean
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: that one family is responsible for changing mixed martial. Arts.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 4: Dude they were telling us so many like cool, stories
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 4: like things THAT i had heard through the grape, vine you,
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 4: know from other people WHEN i was, younger but they confirmed,
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 4: it and like they were even like, asking like where
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 4: the beef comes from in the, family you, know like
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 4: what started? That exactly what? Started because obviously he was in,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 4: it he. Dude they translated for, us but he was,
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 4: saying like how it all got? Started but beef between
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 4: what parts of the. Family two beefs that they? Have
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 4: Uh no it was Uh carlos and who's the one
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 4: one of the brothers went out on their own because
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 4: he was, LIKE i don't want nothing to do with
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 4: this part of the.
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: Family was It? Horion maybe it WAS i know that
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 1: name they were saying started THE. Ufc, yeah it might
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: have Been horrian also trained Mel. Gibson okay for for
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: this lethal weapon fight, scene there Is horri And. Gracie
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: hory And gracie In Playboy magazine Challenged Mike tyson to
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: a no rules. Fight.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 4: SEE i don't want to sound, stupid SO i don't
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 4: like to say too many. Names but you go make
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 4: me call my friend and ask him when we leave
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 4: here was his.
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: Father you, Know hickson's obviously his, Brother hoyce's, Brother HOYLER'S
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: i Think hoyler And hoyce are half.
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 4: Brothers, YES i knew that they were saying, that but
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 4: they were just kind of like going over like old
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 4: times and stories and like they were talking about that
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 4: because apparently like with they were saying, like, Well daniel
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 4: was saying like within the family because he's A, gracy
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 4: BUT i think he's like it was his mom or
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 4: something like that was so she's still A gracy but,
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 4: anyway or his, no his cousin was A, gracy so
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 4: technically like he's not a real Blood. GRACIE i don't.
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 4: Know they tried to explain. It it's very, weird but,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 4: anyway we were there and they. Can't they don't talk about,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 4: it like why there's a divide between this side of
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 4: the family and this. Side and they explained to like
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 4: even when they were, kids like they would go in
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 4: and get into, it like, say you'd go in and
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 4: you get in a fight in the, street just like
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 4: maybe you're twelve years. Old it, started they, said like
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 4: basically that young that like there was a divide between
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 4: whatever one and this.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: One and.
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 4: Because they would go get in a fight and he
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 4: would come back and rat on, them and he was,
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 4: like who come, on you, know so it started as
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 4: that young and he said it was a. Lot it
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 4: wasn't even like oh it was just one, Time, no
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 4: like multiple, times you. Know so it was just interesting to,
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 4: hear like these stories that these guys had of like
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 4: when they were young in the, streets like fighting In.
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: Rio oh, yeah and there's a video Of hickson fighting
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: somebody on the. Beach, yeah they talk about.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 4: It some guy talks about.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: It they were talking to fighting in the, sand scrapping
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: on the. Beach dany was there for.
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 4: That daniel was. There he was the one that brought it.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 4: Up he was there right, now he. Said he they
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 4: showed the picture of it and he was right in the.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: Back hickson has a little surfer shorts.
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: On.
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 4: Yep he Even daniel explained how it. STARTED i don't
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 4: remember that exact, details but, dude it was, like.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: Well they would dojo storm each. Other they would show
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 1: up at places and challenge Like luta Lev Ray gems
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: And luca Lev ray guys would show up with The gracie. Dojo.
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: Dude it was, like, yeah here it. Is look At
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 1: hickson with them beautiful colored shorts on and just smacks
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: them like come, on, baby it's on the, dude like
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: take your shoes, off come, on let's. Go, oh like
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: they're home my. Shoes. Bro these were wild, times, yeah
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: especially when you take into Consideration hickson's widely considered one
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: of the absolute greatest jiu jitsu practitioners of all, time you,
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: know and that he was willing to have these kind
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: of fights on the beach In, reo these no rules,
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: fights just surrounded by dudes and man. Thungs, YEAH i,
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 1: mean and not have any. Striking look See hickson's winging.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 1: Punches these guys had no striking at. All it's really
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: kind of. CRAZY i, mean not ever saying there's anything
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: wrong with anything That hickson ever, did because he's like
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: one of the grace of all. Times but if you
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: look at the difference between a guy that is just
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: a pure grappler Like, hickson even when he fought in
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: Prot remember you come out with this throw those little stomp,
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: kicks just try to Get he's just getting you to the.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: Ground it's all getting to the. Ground there's no one
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: like that, Now no one has very little stand. Up
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: there's no one who fights like.
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 4: That and it's crazy because there is like so many
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 4: stories about Like hoys wasn't even supposed to be the
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 4: one to, fight you, know he wasn't even supposed to
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 4: be the. One, yeah they're supposed to have the other.
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 1: One, Well hickson was always the champion of the, family
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: And hoyst had always said that The hickson was ten
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: times better than. Him, yeah he Said. Hickson hickson tapped
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 1: me every. Day every DAY i go to the, Gym
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: hickson tap. Me but it's just like that's just how it.
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: Was but there was all there was a lot of.
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: Rumors one of the rumors was, that so this is the,
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: Narrative hoys, says it's because he's so. Beautiful he's, like
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: look at his. Face of course they picked. Me that's
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 1: what he said on the. Podcast it was hilarious because
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: he's so, handsome But hickson's handsome, too so it didn't
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: make any, sense but it. WAS i think it's Because
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: hoys could show that it was the technique because Like
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: hickson was. Shredded, yeah and he was pretty jacked. TOO i,
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 1: mean he looked like like a world champion, athlete Whereas
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: hoys looked like one hundred and seventy pound guy who was,
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 1: like you, know not that, muscular and it was just.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: Technique it was him using beautiful jiu jitsu technique that
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: nobody knew what it. Was it was like the best
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: advertisement ever for jiu jitsu when you see a one
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pound guy tapping Out Dan. Severn you,
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: know it was this huge wrestler and catching our chemo
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: when he got him in that arm, bar like all
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: the shit That hoyst Did Ken shamrock when he tapped.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 1: Him it's crazy to watch a guy that's like so
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: much smaller than everybody else dominate everyone and everyone was
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 1: afraid of. Him so it was like the perfect. Thing
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 1: and the thought, was, okay, well if he ever does,
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: lose we always Have, hickson, right and then But hickson
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: went off To japan and he Did Japan Valley tuto
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 1: and then he Did pride and you know, this it
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 1: was always, uh there was talk at one point in
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: time Of hickson fighting Fad. Or they were throwing money
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: around For hickson after he fought in That colosseum, show
• 2:24:42
  Speaker 1: WHICH i think was in two. Thousand when did he
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: Fight Fu? Naki when Did hickson Fight Fu? NAKI i
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 1: think it was the year two, thousand and they were
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 1: talking About hickson fighting Fad. Or they had made him
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 1: an Offer japan for him to come, on and he
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to do. It it never.
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 4: CAME i wish, YOU i wish you could have heard
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 4: like again Because i'm so bad with names and my
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 4: memory is not as good.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: As it used to.
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 4: Be but it's one of my favorite memories from fighting two.
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: Thousand, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it's one.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 4: Of my favorite memories from, fighting just sitting there and
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 4: listening to these guys because the history was freaking. Insane
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 4: the stories were, awesome like it. Was but LIKE i,
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 4: Said i'm terrible with, names So i'm very bad with LIKE.
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: Rj pedanarras on that card Versus Yanky pseudo, sure and
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: it in a. Draw And Yanky pseudo was a bad.
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: Motherfucker that's how Good pedenares. WAS i didn't know. That oh,
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: yeah ped And earras was, legit, man damn very, legit very. Legit,
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 1: yeah AND i, know a gain great. COACH i didn't
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: know he fought in the early early, days you, KNOW
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 1: i mean it was he might have even fought in extreme.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: Combat did he fight in extreme? Combat he might, Have
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 1: like that was back in the day When Mario sperry
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 1: first person on the. Scene he fought back then Igor,
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 1: znovia of all these dudes that everybody forgot, about they
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 1: fought In that Was John paretti's. Card So John paretti
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 1: who was the commentator for the early days of THE.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: Ufc Then John peretti went over and started his own
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: organization for a.
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 4: While it's, crazy LIKE i, think like sometimes WELL i,
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 4: know LIKE i, Said i'm bad at, names, Right but
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 4: it's LIKE i went and fought In seattle last year
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 4: or this. YEAR i found In seattle this year and they,
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 4: did like there Was Amanda, Nunez Robbie, lawler and there
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 4: was one. More they got inducted into The hall Of.
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 4: Fame this, year and uh nobody could give like really
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 4: any fights for who whoever the other person, was and
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 4: not many could give too much For Robbie. LAWLER i was, like,
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 4: bro how have you not heard About?
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: Robbie they weren't, clapping, no, like uh, so let me
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: just go over this real. Quick pennras his debut debut
• 2:26:49
  Speaker 1: Fight Valley Tudo, Japan that's what it. Was he Defeated
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: ruminosato and then Uh Pat militants for THE Ufc welterway
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 1: TITLE ufc twenty. One we lost in the second round technical.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: Knockout and then he Fought Kyle. Uno here was a.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 4: SAVAGE i remember that ended in a.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: Draw So Yanky pseudo And Kyle uno two savages and
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: both of those fights were. Draws and the last one
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: With Yanky pseudo was his LAST mma. Fight so how
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: many fights did he have? Overall four? Fights but, shit
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: they're all. Good oh, yeah, yeah he fought legit. Guys
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: yeah he Beat. Rumnasato you, Know, rumenosato man was fucking
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: terrifying back Then ko soccer Kicked Ko oh.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 4: Damn, yeah but, yeah it was like it's just, different,
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 4: Man that timeframe is just, different.
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 1: You, know well it is, ah it's the birth of the,
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 1: sport and it's it's kind of amazing to have been
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: there at the very beginning and to be able to watch.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 1: It you, know WHEN i WHEN i first found out about,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: IT i couldn't believe it was. REAL i had a
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: bunch of friends that told me about. IT i THINK
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: i heard about it from dudes At do you Remember Benny.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: Orkidez do you know who he? Was benny The jet
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 1: was a famous. Kickboxer Now i'm really going, BACK i
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: feel like he was one of the best kickboxes of all.
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: Time and this was like way back in the, day
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 1: like in the early. Eighties benny The jet was the
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: fucking man in the late seventies in the early. Eighties
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: and he had this gym In california In, Vanuys california
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: called The Jet. Center and WHEN i first moved out To,
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 1: california there's two PLACES i KNEW i really had to.
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 1: Go one was The Comedy store and the other was
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: The Jet. Center and SO i got to work out
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: at The Jet center And benny was there and his Cousin,
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: blinky he was, there And Blinki, rodriguez who was another
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 1: elite kickboxer who actually knocked Out jean Eve, terrio who's
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 1: like one of the best kickboxes of all. Time so
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: it was like this incredible. Gym But benny the Jet
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: orkidas was like he was, early like a, pie like
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: The Bill Super Foot wallace, days like back in those,
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: days you, Know AND i forget WHAT i was just.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: Saying WHAT i lost my train of. Thought what were
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: we just talking about before? That yeah you moved to La, yeah, yeah,
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah BUT i had a. POINT i had a point
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: about these EARLY mma. Fires oh you were, saying it's
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: the birth of this is the birth is of the.
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: Sport so watching, that this is what point was watching
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: that where there was not even leg kicks to watching
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 1: all of a, sudden you See Rick rufus and he
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: fought that dude From, thailand like one of the most
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: important fights in the history of martial arts because you
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: get to see that dude From thailand just Chop Rick
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 1: rufus's legs. Apart and Then rick And duke both learned
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: from that and, said, okay we got to incorporate that into.
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: Game duke becomes a World Muay thai champion after, that
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: which is like it, changed and Then duke becomes one
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: of the BEST mma coaches. Ever so it changes the
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 1: entire course of the. Sport and WHEN i got into
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 1: it and started watching it In, oh that's what it.
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: Was so The Jet, center one of the guys from
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 1: The Jets center is, like you got to see this.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: Thing it's called THE. Ufc this is in ninety. FOUR
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: i was, like what what is? It it was A ufc,
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: Two LIKE i didn't even SEE ufc. ONE i SAW
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: ufc two because that was the only one that was
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: available ON. Vhs SO i WATCHED ufc two AND i was,
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: like this is. Crazy i'm, like how is this guy doing?
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: This like this Is AND i was, Like oh My,
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: God like how is everybody so vulnerable to this one?
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 1: Guy like this is? Nuts SO i was LIKE i
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: gotta train jiu jitsu and watching all of these people
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: from that that era and watching the level of the
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: competition at that era and what the fights looked like versus.
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: Today there's not another sport On earth where you could
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: see a gigantic difference between nineteen ninety four and twenty twenty,
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: Five like a gigantic difference where it's, Unrecognizable like that
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: kid that you were talking about before the eighteen year old.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: Kid what's his name? Again? Ansar that guy would have
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 1: been a world, champion, easy a world, champion, Yea like
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: no one would have fucked with. Him we, said this
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 1: is the greatest fighter that's ever walked the face of the.
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: Planet and he's a kid that's on undercards of small
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: regional shows now, Right how crazy is? That, so like
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 1: when you see these guys in The Dana White contender,
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: series some of these guys coming, Up i'm watching them
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: fight for their first fight in The contender, Series like
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: this guy looks like you'd be fighting for the.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: Title like they're complete, Fighters they're, fast they have good.
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: Technique everything they're doing is. Smart it's like the level
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: has changed so much in just a short period of,
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 2: time AND i feel so lucky to be able to
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 2: see the whole. THING i saw the whole, thing like
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 2: from the ground floor to.
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 4: Today it's crazy because you probably hear all the, time,
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 4: Right LIKE i was probably Watching Fear factor BEFORE i
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 4: knew at THE.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: Ufc so WHEN i.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 4: Saw THE, UFC i was, Like, dad look it's. Him
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 4: he was, like he looks at me because obviously my
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 4: dad's seen it. Before he's, like, yes, son he's been
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 4: around a, while you, know he's been in THE. UFC
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 4: i don't even know if it was, longer But i'm
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 4: sure it.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: Was, YEAH i. WAS i started working for THE ufc
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 1: in ninety, seven.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 4: So he was, like he's always been. There so, then,
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 4: obviously AS i get, OLDER i start seeing history and
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 4: looking at old fights and older, fights AND i noticed
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 4: you there the whole, time and like me and my
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 4: Friend tuco have these, conversations BUT i was, like, Bro
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 4: joe's a real one, though he's been here the whole.
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 4: Time like how awesome does that to? Be for like, You,
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 4: dana For tita's and probably a few others too that
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 4: nobody knows that have seen this thing grow from what
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 4: it was to what it is.
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: Today, oh it's. Amazing it's got to. Be it's. Amazing.
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: YEAH i feel so. Lucky i'm so. Fortunate like it's
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: one of the THINGS i look forward to more than
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: anything in. Life and like you, Said i'm see. Weekend i'm,
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: like oh, boy here we. GO i get so. Excited
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 1: i've been doing this. FOREVER i STILL i STARTED ufc
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 1: twelve in nineteen ninety. Seven that was the first fight
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: THAT i ever did backstage interviews that's WHAT i, did
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 1: or post fight interviews. TOO i THINK i started doing
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 1: interviews backstage and THEN i interviewed guys after the fight was.
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: Over that, was you know. Earlier but how how do
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: you start? There it was a crazy. Fluke SO i
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: was already doing jiu. JITSU i was At Carlson. Gracie's
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: this is back Before vtor made his. DEBUT i was
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: training At vtor's With Vtor's, jim With Mario. SPERRY i
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: took lessons From Mario sperry WHEN i was a white.
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 1: Belt it was, awesome. Dude Marilla bustamante was there all the.
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: Time there was a ton of The Carlson Gracie, killers you,
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: know the two bulldogs And i'll fighting each. Other, yeah
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: And carlson was there every. Day SO i got to
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: train there WHEN i was on news radio the SITCOM i,
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: was so it was just like nineteen ninety, six AND
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 1: i just loved. That there was this just Before vitor
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 1: fought in THE, ufc so he while he was training
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: at the gym with, us he went and fought this,
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 1: Guy John. Hess John hess was this big tall he
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 1: fought in THE ufc as, WELL i, BELIEVE i believe he.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: Did John hess was this hit a style called. SAFTA
• 2:33:31
  Speaker 1: i forget what it was, about but it was like back,
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: then dudes would just like make up their own style street,
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: fighting artistic finger fucking you, know they would make up
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: some sort of a fucking. Backronym But vtur blitzed across the.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: Ring he was nineteen years old and just lit this
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 1: guy up like a machine, gun like got him, down
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: like put him out on the. Ground like it was
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 1: so crazy and so, fast the most ferocious display of
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 1: ground and POUND i had ever seen in my life
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 1: at the. Time AND i was, like this is, crazy
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: and so just, randomly they had a guy who was
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 1: doing the post fight interviews and they wanted to get
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 1: a new, guy and they were looking for, people and the,
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: Guy campbell, McLaren who was the producer of THE, ufc
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 1: happened to be friends with my manager from the comedy club.
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 1: Days They campbell used to work at a comedy club
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 1: with my manager and they were just shooting the shit
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: over the. Phone he, Goes, Hey i'm looking for someone
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 1: to do interviews for THE. Ufc do you know anybody
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: that'd be. Interested he goes Like joe was a huge.
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: Fan he's Like joe watches every one of. THEM i
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: actually got DIRECT tv just SO i could watch THE
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: ufc because that's when was banned from. Cable SO i
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: got my cable removed AND i got DIRECT tv put
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 1: in my house just SO i could watch THE ufc
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 1: because it was the only way you could catch. It
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 1: and then it was no, money AND i was supposed
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 1: to fly To New, york but then the last minute
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: it got. Canceled they made it illegal In New, york
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: and we had to fly To, Dothan alabama on a
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: fucking propeller. PLANE i shared a propeller play With yang
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: and uh actually that was. Later later that was In.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: LOUISIANA i shared a propeller playing With Randy. Cotur randy
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 1: didn't fight, then but it WAS V tour made his
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 1: debut Against Trey, teleigman and everybody thought he was a
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: jiu jitsu guy because he was From Carlson. Gracie he
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 1: had a black, belt and he just came out just throwing,
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 1: missiles just missile so, fast like nobody had seen anything like.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 1: That and he was only like two hundred pounds back.
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: Then he was light and fast and strong as, shit
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: and then he Fought Scott farroso and took him out
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: in the. Finals so he won this heavyweight tournament and
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 1: that was nineteen ninety. Seven that's.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 4: Crazy that was the third PERSON i was trying to
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 4: think of WHEN i was In. Seattle so basically what,
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 4: HAPPENED ufc was asking, Fighters, hey were these these three.
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 4: Guys they weren't saying they were getting, inducted but obviously
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 4: if you've been around Vetur It, Tour Amanda nunez And Robbie,
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 4: lawler they weren't cheering for Vtur, no they were asking the, fighters.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 4: Right they were asking the, Fighters, uh, hey if do
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 4: you know who these guys? Are if you, do what's
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 4: your most memorable moment of? Them what do you what
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 4: was your favorite? Moment like anything like, that right because
• 2:36:11
  Speaker 4: obviously they put it on the montage when they announced,
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 4: it and they told me that only me and two
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 4: other fighters on the entire card could give a fight
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 4: from V, TOUR i was, like no. WAY i was
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 4: like that highlight that you're talking about when he sprints,
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 4: across even if you don't know the, person how do
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 4: you not see that?
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: Highlight when he did? That To, vanderley that's the ONE i.
• 2:36:34
  Speaker 4: Said that's WHAT i. Said that was my vanderlad was.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: That one that was? Crazy BUT i think the scariest
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: vtour of all time was tr T V. Tour TR
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: Tv tour was the scariest fucking human being that ever
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: stepped into that. Cage if they never BANNED TRT i
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: think that guy would have been a terror for every
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: fucking human being that weight. Pounds for. Sure the way
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: he wheel Kick luke Rock, Hold, like what the fuck
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: are we looking?
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 9: At?
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: Man we never saw him throw a wheel kick in
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: his whole. Career all of a, sudden he's wheel kicking
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: guys in the.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 4: Head he come in the, gym like because obviously live In.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 4: Florida he come in to gym and he is the nicest, guy.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 1: Very nice. Guy let's talk about.
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 4: It, HEY i THINK i think you need to slow
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 4: down a little bit these hundred percent every. Days no good,
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 4: Brother he, said why don't you, come we can have some,
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 4: coffee have a, lunch and let's talk about. IT i
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 4: love the science behind the, sport but super nice. Guy, Right,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 4: like there's the conversations THAT i had with, him and
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 4: IF i see, him great, guy before, this never had
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 4: a conversation with, him only watched him ON, tv you,
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 4: Know but that was like the first INTERACTION i ever
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 4: had With vitor as a. PERSON i don't know if
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 4: he knew WHO i. Was he just watched me spar
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 4: and then come to me after that was.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: It that's very nice of. Him, yeah it's super nice,
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: guy real og like. Him that's been again fighting since
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety. Seven nineteen ninety, seven that's almost thirty. Years
• 2:37:55
  Speaker 1: that's literally crazy that.
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 4: It hurt my heart when they said that people didn't,
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 4: like couldn't like say fights for, him couldn't even say a.
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 4: Highlight it's.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: Hard you, know these young, guys a lot of them
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: are twenty five years. Old they were twenty four years.
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: Old they Didn't joshua watch, This Joshua van twenty, four,
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i didn't watch the sport a lot before they
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 1: were involved in it and the fights that they've really
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: seen a lot of in the last few.
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 4: Years, yeah and that's what Josh, Van that's WHY i
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 4: said his. Name he's, young but he says the same
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 4: thing because they were, like why do you Think pantoz
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 4: is that? Go he's, LIKE i, Know Demetrius johnson is
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 4: what everyone says he was, like BUT i never got
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 4: to see, him you, know LIKE i.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: WAS i was crazy. Young that's crazy. Too go Watch
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: It's yeah two was free. Bro you're the champ, Now,
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 1: joshua go back and Watch Mighty, mouse because that motherfucker was.
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 1: Extraordinary he Was Mighty mouse in his. Time was.
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 4: Shaite he was so special when he thought that that
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 4: Big brazilian kid in one uh, huh and he lost,
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 4: one and then he beat.
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 1: Him twice the first time in one championship and then
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 1: he got chaoed and then kalled him the exact same.
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: Way it really wasn't. Me, YEAH i didn't know What
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: the same boy got kalled with knees and both got
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: kaoed against the cage with. Knees it was literally little
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: like almost the ex Except demetrius's was more. Artistic it was.
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: Beautiful the flow where he was like chasing, him, well
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 1: he rocked him and then he's chasing him. Down he's
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: like not yet there it, is and he just launches
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 1: and catches him with. This you've seen, it, Right, Yeah
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: i've seen. It oh my. God find was the same.
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 1: Way what is that dude's? Name the duty kaot just
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 1: ANDRE i don't. Know Search Demetrius johnson flying knee ko ONE.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 1: FC i bet you'll find. It, Yeah Adriana, maris that's.
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 1: It that's. It And maris is, good, dude he's really.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: Good he's really big and one FC's got that squirrely
• 2:39:38
  Speaker 1: weight cutting. Jazz so this is the second fight After
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 1: marias had kaoed him in the first. Fight and also
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: this is A dj that's probably thirty five years, old right,
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean and after a long career in THE,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 1: ufc widely recognizes the greatest flyweight of all time in THE.
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 1: Ufc and to, me, like he just didn't get the
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 1: love that he deserved when he was in his prime
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 1: because he was one hundred and twenty five pounds and
• 2:40:02
  Speaker 1: for whatever, REASON i, mean it's not like it's not
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 1: even more interesting to, Watch, like but people have this
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 1: weird thing like a heavyweight could beat anywhere anyone in the.
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 1: World one hundred twenty five pound, guy don't bant his.
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 1: Head stop watch him fight like it right, there, boom
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 1: but backing, up, back backing up a second so you
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 1: can see the. Sequence look right hand timing boom. Perfect
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: the timing is just so. Beautiful that's so, look that's fucking, artistic,
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 1: man that is so artistic Perfect and to kao a
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: guy with the ship he kaoed you with in the
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: first fight is, wild.
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 4: DUDE i don't know much about Like demetrius as a,
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 4: person but from What i've seen of, him obviously because
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 4: you see more now that he's on like doing his
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 4: like streaming and, stuff he is like he's the. Best
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 4: he's the definition of a martial artist. Too he cares
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 4: about the pearness of being a martial artist rather than
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 4: the views or the belt or any of.
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 1: That respect that talking stupid shit just to get. Attention
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 1: he hates people to do that kind of. Stuff he
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: hates disrespectful. Stuff he's such a nice guy but also
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: just so smart about his approach to the. Sport just
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 1: so clever inside the. Cage and also so fucking fast.
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 4: Man he.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: Was one TIME i grabbed him just just being silly AT.
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: Ufc he was in front of, me AND i put
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: my arms around him like from, behind you, know like
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: saying hi to. Somebody, yeah and he turned, around he
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 1: looked at me and goes he hit me with two
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 1: knees to the, body like just touched. Me it was so.
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: FAST i was, like, dude that was so. Scary you
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: hit me so. FAST i didn't even see them. Coming
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 1: it was like they just like just just moved like a.
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 4: Cat and you, know like you, said he was probably
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 4: thirty five or. Whatever there he could still compete with
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 4: the best with the.
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 1: Best world problem and juice free, too juice free with
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 1: the best in the. World and by the way over,
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 1: THERE i don't know what kind of drug test they're,
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 1: doing but it's probably multiple. Choice there's a lot of
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 1: them organizations where you're, like how hard are you? Testing?
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 1: Really you, know because like if you not testing all
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 1: throughout camp, randomly you're not really, testing you. Know because
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: we have to remember That Alster overreim when he fought
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: Brock lesner was, tested and that is the juiciest man
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 1: has ever walked the face of Planet. Earth The Alister
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 1: overream that fought Brock lesner is the juiciest Guy i've
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 1: ever seen fight for, me AND i wish he could keep.
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 1: JUICING i DO i think we would have seen we've
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 1: seen a different result if you you Let alister stay
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 1: juicy and stay two hundred and sixty five with world
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 1: class kickboxing. Skills and also he was so jacked that
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 1: he could kind of hide from punches because when he
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 1: would shell, up especially IN k one when he had
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 1: those big, gloves, bro when he would shell.
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 4: Up so he's got biceps and shoulders and then.
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 1: Traps everything's all, protected and he's got that high guard
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: and he's coming in like, this throwing, bombs and he
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: looks like a. Superhero he looks like a guy from
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: a fucking comic.
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 4: Book, yeah let's let's let everyone. Juice if you want to,
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 4: juice just everyone's. Juice let's make an even playing field
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 4: instead of let's try to catch who's not or let's
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 4: catch who's.
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 1: Juicing would you if they if they just opened the? Gate, Okay.
• 2:43:13
  Speaker 4: OKAY i started off by saying. Yes WHEN i was,
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 4: YOUNGER i was, like, NO i never. JUICE i want
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 4: to be all, natural to show, everything like to Show
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 4: i'm just that. Good THEN i was, like AS i
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 4: got older and seen, IT i was, like, NAH i,
• 2:43:29
  Speaker 4: Would but that's LIKE i, REMEMBER i Thought Eric andrews FOR, lfa,
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 4: Right and they have pictures of him on the scale
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 4: the day of the fight to twenty two two twenty.
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 4: Three one of them too, Right i'm stepping. IN i
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 4: don't even really. Cut i'm stepping in like one ninety.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 4: Four i'm. YOUNG i don't cut really. Anything that, TIME
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 4: i did cut a lot That that was the first
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 4: FIGHT i cut a lot for BECAUSE i was lifting
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 4: like crazy AND i wasn't really doing nothing else BECAUSE
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 4: i was In. LOUISIANA i used to try with Rich.
• 2:43:56
  Speaker 4: Clementy oh, okay, yeah so you know he's crazy as.
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 4: Hell SO i was training, there BUT i was lifting
• 2:44:02
  Speaker 4: more than. Anything but, ANYWAY i was probably like one
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 4: ninety six is ninety? Seven no more than two hundred for,
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 4: sure no questions. Asked and they they come in the
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 4: back that night and they're, like, hey we're a drug testing.
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 4: YOU i said what he, Said, yeah we're gonna drug test.
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 1: You it's.
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 4: RANDOM i, said, well if it's, random is he getting
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 4: drug tested?
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 1: Too they're like.
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 4: NAH i, said, oh so you're telling me the man
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 4: who's weighing over two twenty and just weighed one eighty
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 4: five exact yesterday is not getting, tested but the guy
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 4: who's only weighing like fourteen whatever pounds more is getting.
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 4: TESTED i pulled up my. SHIRT i, said does it
• 2:44:39
  Speaker 4: look Like i'm on fucking. Steroids does it look like?
• 2:44:42
  Speaker 4: IT i, said give me some. Credit, bro IF i
• 2:44:44
  Speaker 4: was gonna take, IT i promise YOU i would look like.
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 4: It and they're, Like i'm, sorry, bro this is it's
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 4: just a. JOB i was, like all, right let's go
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 4: get it. Done but it's just, like did.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 1: You randomly test only a few people on the? Roster
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 1: that has to be a. Questioning that has to be
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 1: a budget. Thing Texas, commission that's, crazy but that must
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 1: be like they don't want to spend money on. EVERYBODY
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: i don't. Know if you tests one guy in the,
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: card you should have to test. Everybody.
• 2:45:07
  Speaker 4: YEAH i think it was a total of three or
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 4: four guys what they said that they tested on the whole.
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 1: Card if you're testing a, guy you have to test his. Opponent,
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 1: dude you have. To that's.
• 2:45:16
  Speaker 4: CRAZY i still to this DAY i laughed At i'm,
• 2:45:19
  Speaker 4: like come on every time someone asked, me like a
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 4: text you come.
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 1: On there's a few fights where they. Stopped they wouldn't
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: let a guy fight because they in THE trt, days
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 1: they did test to see what people's levels. Are and one,
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 1: GUY i don't want to say his, name but one
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 1: guy was so high that they canceled the main. Event, really,
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 1: yeah they canceled the main event at the weigh.
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 4: In yeah, Wow, YEAH i didn't know that he was so.
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 1: Juicy they were worried that he was gonna. Die they were,
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 1: like you could like your levels or whatever you fucking,
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 1: did you should not be fighting with this level of
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 1: testosterone in your. System you're also ON. Trt so it
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 1: wasn't like this guy's just some genetic freak like you'll
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: all coming out of a cube and sports. Program it
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 1: was he's a special human. Too that's a special. Human.
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah you ever heard of a Guy CLOVIS i Think Clovis.
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 4: Hancock he died in the. FIGHT i think it was
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 4: for legacy OR. LFA i fought. Him then his next,
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 4: fight he died in the cage and they brought him.
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 1: Back, YEAH.
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 4: Cpr it was all over the. INTERNET i fought that.
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 4: DUDE i was, like no, WAY i saw the next,
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 4: Day i've seen, it, like, yeah they had to give
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 4: HIM cpr till the ambulance uh got him loaded up
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 4: and taken to the. Hospital yeah. Wow never obviously never
• 2:46:35
  Speaker 4: allowed to fight, again but, obviously, yeah, man, crazy he
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 4: probably did. Bro he was. FUNNY i just have that
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 4: dog in.
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 1: Them they don't. Care cyborg wanted to fight again after
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 1: he got his skull crushed BY. Mvp no. Way, yeah
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 1: he thought he was going to fight again after. That
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 1: so here it. Is can you imagine being the audience
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 1: watching that they're doing FUCKING? Cpr, Dude oh my, god
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 1: that's so, yeah.
• 2:46:59
  Speaker 4: YEAH i remember here he's the cutman For, yeah, man
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 4: it's it's.
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 1: Crazy, well thank god they have those e mts on,
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 1: standby and you, know for, sure these organizations they do
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 1: the very best screen people and make sure that they're
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 1: as healthy as. Possible THE ufc does a real good
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 1: job with that five.
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 4: Minutes for five, minutes the cutman was the guy that
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 4: was giving HIM. Cpr wasn't even the.
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 1: EMTs oh my, god thank god the cutman knew YEAH.
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 1: Cpr yeah ship. Dude, yeah it's. Crazy, well you, know
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 1: it reminds you this is not a. Game so, sure
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 1: it's a crazy ass. Sport so what's next for? You
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 1: do you, know do they have you lined up for?
• 2:47:35
  Speaker 4: Anything, No i've been pushing hopefully rikis Hopefully March april
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 4: at the.
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 1: Latest so do you need like that much time to
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 1: prepare or is that like how you'd like.
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 4: To uh, YEAH i just kind of AS i started
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 4: training again. Today matter of, fact.
• 2:47:54
  Speaker 1: So training you, Huh maybe that'll get him excited About
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 1: maybe that's A i was Drekas i'm, like this motherfucker
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 1: probably has a full six. Pack he takes his shirt,
• 2:48:03
  Speaker 1: off he probably ripped the six pack of. Rolls he's
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: ready to. Go he's just bullshitting saying he hasn't been
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 1: training to go to me into a. Fight, yeah, Man
• 2:48:10
  Speaker 1: BUT i like So drickis is the guy that you're hoping, for.
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 4: Yes, Sir and it makes, sense like it's it's just
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 4: the right. Time LIKE i, Said imo is gonna wait
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 4: for the. Champion he earned his. Spot they just Announced
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 4: fluffy And, sean so what's left it's just me and.
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 1: Him and it's a good fight. Too it's be a
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 1: great fight to watch and a good, fight you, know
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 1: for for you obviously fighting former champion you know and
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 1: his next and For, dricis it's like that's a that's
• 2:48:37
  Speaker 1: the kind of fight you. Need at this, point he
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 1: turned back The Young.
• 2:48:40
  Speaker 4: Lions i've been trying to fight him since he got
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 4: into THE. UFC i just just felt LIKE i still
• 2:48:45
  Speaker 4: feel this. WAY i feel like he's the luckiest Guy
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 4: i've ever. Seen, like don't get me, wrong he does
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 4: have a couple of fights, now but before he got the,
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 4: BELT i always said like he's the luckiest. Guy Like
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 4: Marcus perez was beating his, Ass Marcus perez wanted to
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 4: do something crazy and went to throw a spinning. Elbow
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 4: jerkis was throwing a body shot when he was throwing
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 4: to spin an, elbow and he hit him right in the.
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 4: Mouth jerk has Hit marcus right in the mouth.
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 1: OUT i don't think you can call it. LUCKY i don't.
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 1: KNOW i know what you're. Saying but he finds a
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 1: way to. Win the dude's a. Dog he has a.
• 2:49:16
  Speaker 1: Dog he finds a way to, win you. KNOW i,
• 2:49:18
  Speaker 1: mean think about some of them fights that were just
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: like like the outist on your, Fight like he just
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 1: kept kept coming and found a way to. Win, yeah
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 1: we took out in the first roundn't.
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 4: NO i didn't doubt you're right that. ONE i don't
• 2:49:32
  Speaker 4: see luck in that. ONE i think that was a great.
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 4: Strategy he's a, animal, Dude, yeah HE i love that's,
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 4: Honestly like we can say whatever we want about each.
• 2:49:39
  Speaker 4: Other he can, joke talk, ship whatever the. Case BUT
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 4: i loved the fight BECAUSE i know he's coming to
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 4: fight like he's coming to.
• 2:49:48
  Speaker 1: Kill for. SURE i love.
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 4: THAT i don't want a guy that's Like i've had,
• 2:49:52
  Speaker 4: Him BUT i don't like the guys that just want to.
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 4: Hug like he's trying to hurt. ME i love, That
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 4: like that nervousness brings out the best very to me
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 4: Because i'm, Nervous, like who's not nervous of another? Man
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 4: it's gonna he's trying to hurt, me and his to,
• 2:50:06
  Speaker 4: me one of his best attributes is exactly what you,
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 4: said like he you describe. It he finds a way to,
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 4: Win like that's a great way for. Me i'm just
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 4: like that dude can dig. Deep the same exact thing
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 4: in the.
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 1: Fight even in The hamad. Fight remember the fifth, round fifth,
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 1: round he's on top dropping bombs On. Hamzad at one
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 1: point in, time it was a little too late and
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 1: he didn't get him out of, there but he was
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 1: not giving. Up, yeah he just was getting dominated. Difference for,
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 1: sure he was still trying to find a way to.
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 4: Win BUT i love that that that that motivates me by,
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 4: Itself LIKE i love hearing. THAT i want a guy
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 4: that's gonna try to come kill, me because what's the
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 4: worst is gonna happen he knocks me. Out, okay, okay
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 4: like that's what he came to. Do, anyway any man
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 4: could do. It i've Had i've been t k, Before
• 2:50:51
  Speaker 4: like all, right, cool BUT i can do it to you,
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 4: too you. Know so that's WHAT i love that aspect
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 4: of the. Fight that's my favorite. Thing that's what motivtivates
• 2:51:00
  Speaker 4: me about the fight more than the number the.
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 1: Danger, YEAH i like.
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 4: That it's AND i feel LIKE i really truly haven't
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 4: had that in a, while like a true like some
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 4: guys look at as a sport and some guys really
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 4: mean it Like i'm trying to hurt. You AND i like,
• 2:51:17
  Speaker 4: That like it brings that out in me, too because
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 4: Like i'm trying to hurt. You all, right you're gonna
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 4: try to hurt. Me i'm gonna try to hurt you
• 2:51:22
  Speaker 4: or you, KNOW i don't, know but that's just HOW
• 2:51:24
  Speaker 4: i look at the, fight and it really like excites,
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 4: Me like that's that demonic side of me coming, Out
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 4: like let's, See i'm.
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 1: Ready, WELL i love hearing that AND i love the.
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 1: FIGHT i hope you get. It thank you and thanks
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 1: for being here, man it's great talking to. You let
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 1: everybody know how they can find you on Social, yeah.
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 4: On instagram At Brendan allen one eighty five or Be
• 2:51:45
  Speaker 4: Underscore allen one eighty. Five and that's that's really What i'd.
• 2:51:49
  Speaker 4: Be i'm just kind of, Chill i'm low key all, right.
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 1: Brother, well hopefully next time i'll talk to you it's
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 1: after a.
• 2:51:54
  Speaker 4: Victory, yes, sir thank you for having me such a
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 4: pleasure being here with all you. Guys thank you so.
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 1: Much my, pleasure all.
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  Speaker 7: Right but