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- 0:15It's time for the third hour of the Morning Show with Preston Scott. I'm
- 0:20Preston. That's Grant Allen running the radio program. It is Tuesday, January
- 0:24twenty third, and it is show fifty eighty. The program affectionately known as
- 0:29common Sense Amplified, and we have sometimes some pretty challenging and difficult topics that
- 0:37we talk about here get you thinking about and aware of things that might not
- 0:42normally be on your radar. And so it goes with this topic this half
- 0:47hour. Joining me is Robin Hassler Thompson. She is the executive director of
- 0:52the Survive and Thrive Advocacy Center. She co founded this back in twenty fifteen
- 0:57to assist survivors of human trafficking. Robin, Welcome to the program. How
- 1:00are you. I'm good, Prestin. Thank you so much for having me
- 1:04today, and thanks so much for highlighting this topic. Yeah, it's a
- 1:10very important topic to me for a lot of personal reasons. I've been aware
- 1:15of human trafficking for quite a while. What was your first introduction to the
- 1:22nature and the scope of this problem. Oh, wow, that's a really
- 1:26good question. I'll tell you. It started for me when I actually was
- 1:33on a State Department mission almost twenty years ago now to Bangladesh. I was
- 1:40there to deal with the issue of domestic violence. I was invited over there,
- 1:44and when I was over there, I went to a shelter that housed
- 1:49victims of domestic violence, sexual assault, and human trafficking. And what I
- 1:53saw over there where children were boys who were trafficked. And this is going
- 1:59to sound and maybe just just crazy to some people, but there were boys
- 2:06who were trafficked into Saudi Arabia to be camel jockeys and they were brought back
- 2:14to Bangladesh. They were taking this, They were, you know, taking
- 2:17the Saudi Araa brought back to Bangladesh and they were in the shelter. And
- 2:21I'll never forget those children, you know, the faces and the eyes of
- 2:24these little boys. And later I found out when I, you know,
- 2:30got back to the States and was working Brian Gumbel actually did a show about
- 2:34this, and that show that he did shamed the leaders of Saudi Arabia to
- 2:39put an end to what they were essentially doing is getting these boys from other
- 2:44countries to be camel jockeys. Because they were light and they screamed and it
- 2:47made the camels run faster, and it turns out those boys were also being
- 2:53sexually assaulted and abused. Anyway, That's what opened my eyes to it,
- 2:57and then I got back to this country. In real life, human trafficking
- 3:00is going on all over the place, especially in Florida, Robin Is,
- 3:08I know this is a global issue, obviously. What are the differences in
- 3:14how this how this begins? You know, you mentioned these children in Bangladesh.
- 3:21Are they being sold by their families? Are they being kidnapped, abducted?
- 3:24What's the arrangement there? And then contrasts that with how human trafficking gets
- 3:30a foothold in America. Yeah, you know, it's very it's very much
- 3:35the same. You know, there's a lot of misinformation out there, and
- 3:38that's why I'm so glad to do shows and to talk about this issue.
- 3:43But really what happens most of the time is that people are groomed into being
- 3:50traffic. It's not the snatch and grab, it's not the movie Taken,
- 3:53you know what I mean? Right right, we've helped over two hundred people
- 3:58since we started. That has happened to none of the victims of domestic I'm
- 4:02sorry, of sex and labor trafficking that we've helped. What we see is
- 4:10is a sort of ingratiating and subduction or whatever you want to call it by
- 4:15a traffic or of somebody who has an unmet need, someone who doesn't have
- 4:19housing or is in economic direstraits or whatever it is, and then someone appears
- 4:26and says, hey, I can I can help you with that, and
- 4:28they befriend that person. They get them into their web. I always think
- 4:32of it as like a spider web. They get them into their web.
- 4:34And that could happen in person. That happens among families. When I started
- 4:40this work, President, we weren't really using the term familial trafficking or parental
- 4:45trafficking, and we're doing it now more and more because of things like the
- 4:48opioid epidemic, where you know, within families, people need to they they
- 4:53are addicted, and they say, okay, how do I how do I
- 4:56keep going? And they sell themselves or they might sell their children. So
- 5:01it's kind of a complicated question, but I really would like your listeners to
- 5:04know it's not the white man in the public parking lot, you know what
- 5:09I mean. It's not someone being followed in the Dollar Store. If you
- 5:13are worried about your kids being you know, pulled into this, make sure
- 5:16you're finding out what they're doing online because a lot of this grooming takes place
- 5:20online as well. Welcome to the Mad Radio Network, where we challenge you
- 5:26to make a difference in your world in a positive way, improving the lives
- 5:30of others. It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Yeah. I definitely
- 5:40think we are falling under the category of making a difference here. This is
- 5:44a problem and a lot of you are probably not aware of how close this
- 5:53issue is to you and your children. I don't say that to scare you.
- 5:58I say that to make you aware. Robin Hasler Thompson with us.
- 6:03She's the executive director of the Survive and Thrive Advocacy Center. Let you know,
- 6:08we're going to talk about the event, but that's kind of a local
- 6:11event, so I'll say that for the final segment, Robin, we have
- 6:13listeners all over the country, all over the region. What are First of
- 6:17all, are we talking in America more females versus males, more girls than
- 6:24boys? And if so, or if not, what ages are being groomed
- 6:30the most? You know that is such a good question, and I think
- 6:34the answer is, unfortunately is I don't know exactly if it's more boys or
- 6:41girls, or men or women. What we see is both the answer is
- 6:46both okay. And because this is so hidden, just like if you think
- 6:51about you know, what's going on in a family and any other kind of
- 6:55situation, you know, you you don't know, And what we say is
- 7:01everyone is potentially at risk. So if you have a child who has an
- 7:06unmit need, and and anybody with with a child probably understands that that could
- 7:12mean anything from what happened yesterday when a boyfriend or girlfriend broke up with you
- 7:15in high school and you know your heart is you know, broken, to
- 7:19anybody who's whose parents can't pay the pay the rent or keep a you know,
- 7:25keep keep the electricity on. So there could be lots of different unmet
- 7:30needs. And that's what a trafficker will target. So if you're online and
- 7:33you're a child, you there could be somebody from another country, from this
- 7:39country, going into that game that that child is playing and posing as a
- 7:45friend, asking for photographs, you know, risky photographs of that child.
- 7:51And you know, if a child thinks they're talking to a buddy or you
- 7:54know, a friend, or they're just having a good time, they might
- 7:57do it, you know, and then they take that information and then exploit
- 8:00it. I have a friend whose daughter basically said, Mom, I was
- 8:03playing this game and this guy started asking me do I have any brothers or
- 8:07sisters? She started and then she thought it was another, you know,
- 8:11like a peer. So what we have online, President, we have something
- 8:16called our Youth and Caregiver Toolkit, And when we talk about kids being vulnerable
- 8:20online, I like to encourage anyone who's around a kid, whether it's a
- 8:26coach or a bus driver or a you know, a church leader or you
- 8:30know, a youth leader, that you understand what kids are doing online and
- 8:35talk to them about this issue so that they're not duped by a trafficker.
- 8:39And really it's kind of a pretty extensive investment, is what one survivor told
- 8:46me. A trafficker makes us a significant investment in time when they're grooming somebody.
- 8:52So that's what you really have to start to understand, is that it
- 8:56can happen in person. You know, it could be one and teenager recruiting
- 9:01another teenager at the behest of a trafer or it could be it's happening one
- 9:07on one online and parents just don't know. I've had a parent, you
- 9:09know, parents tell us I know where my daughter and son is twenty four
- 9:13to seven. Well you don't know where they are online? Boy, isn't
- 9:16that the truth? Robin standby. We're going to talk about an event that's
- 9:20coming up, folks. The website is Survive and Thrive Advocacy dot org.
- 9:26Survive and Thrive Advocacy dot Org. There you can also learn more about an
- 9:31event coming up called at Imagine Freedom twenty twenty four, and it's an event
- 9:39where you can really learn and hear from people that are making a difference the
- 9:52best they can. The best thing you can do is be invested in your
- 9:54kids' lives. It's your business. Just trust me on that. For those
- 9:58who you just joining us this morning on the Morning Show with President Scott,
- 10:03we're talking about human trafficking and it's Survive and Thrive Advocacy dot org. Have
- 10:07I got that right? You've got that one hundred percent right. Preston what
- 10:13kinds of tools are available specifically to parents and victims, Well, our website
- 10:20does have a lot there, I think for everybody. So first, let
- 10:24me say there's a podcast called Imagine Freedom and you can find it wherever you
- 10:30get your podcast. Excuse me, I've got a frog anyway, so you
- 10:33can find Imagine Freedom and Preston. I'm speaking only with survivors of trafficking on
- 10:39this podcast, so really encourage people to go there. I've told parents they
- 10:43can ask their kids, you know, especially teenagers to listen to the podcast
- 10:48or twenty minutes, you know what I mean, so you could find out
- 10:50more about what we should be doing to help protect our children and each other
- 10:56from trafficking and really build and strength in our community. The other thing we
- 11:00have is a training for businesses. A lot of people don't realize how the
- 11:03business community, whether it's for profit or nonprofit, has a role to play.
- 11:09And you know, when when law enforcement says see something, say something,
- 11:11you got to know what you're looking at in order to say something.
- 11:15So you know, so if you if you think, like only girls are
- 11:18sex traffics, and you see a boy on the street who's being preyed on,
- 11:22you wouldn't say anything because you wouldn't know. So that's what our training
- 11:26program, called stackpro dot org does. It's one hour online free. You
- 11:31can go there and learn the signs, how it looks in the workplace.
- 11:37And then we have toolkits. We have toolkits for parents and kids, caregivers
- 11:41and teens and that's a youth and caregiver toolkit on the website you just mentioned.
- 11:46And then we've got other tools for people and president. Every week,
- 11:50I'm sorry, every month the third Friday, we have a webinar again,
- 11:56another free webinar on issues that involve trafficking. This month we had one on
- 12:03human trafficking and the targeting of people with disabilities, and we had an expert
- 12:07from the Department of Children and Families on talk about how we can be aware
- 12:13and make sure we're getting the help to people who might be targeted by a
- 12:16traffcker or who have already been traffic traffickers target Like I said, vulnerabilities that
- 12:22if somebody has a developmental disability and neurological disability, a physical disability at traffic
- 12:28or sees that and sees dollar signs unfortunately. So we really want people to
- 12:33know there's so much you can do on the front end. I love that
- 12:37make a difference mad that you have so people can make a difference and understand
- 12:43more so they can see it and actually take action. You mentioned dollars.
- 12:50Let's spend those dollars in a more positive direction. Because your annual fundraisers coming
- 12:54up next Tuesday, late late afternoon, early evening. Tell everybody about it.
- 13:00Thank you so much. Yes, this is our annual event, Imagine
- 13:03Freedom twenty twenty four. It's going to be a great opportunity for people to
- 13:07get together, to learn more and to connect with people who are making a
- 13:11difference in our community. We give out what we call our Gratitude Awards,
- 13:16and we have people in the community who've been doing extraordinary work in this field,
- 13:20and so we're going to acknowledge and recognize them. We're going to unveil
- 13:24a mural, a piece of artwork that we're going to take throughout this region
- 13:28to have public conversations about what is trafficking. People don't think traffickers are in
- 13:33rural areas Preston for example, and we're in a very area. So we're
- 13:37going to take these this artwork there, we're going to unveil it. It's
- 13:41going to be a time when you can get together and really think and celebrate
- 13:46the people who are doing good in this issue as well as understand the depth
- 13:50of what's going on. Folks can go to our website and see other events
- 13:54that we're having this month. This is Human Trafficking Prevention Months, So we're
- 13:58trying to do do this kind of a big event every year and really encourage
- 14:05people to come. Tickets are only twenty five bucks. It's not too late
- 14:07to be a sponsor. So really, when I mentioned all those other resources,
- 14:13we do these for free. These are offered for free to the public,
- 14:18and we're asking people now if you're benefiting, if you think what we're
- 14:20doing is worthwhile, to please just go on our website. Any donation is
- 14:26so so much appreciated, and I imagine it makes a huge difference, a
- 14:31huge difference. You would be surprised. We've trained over sixteen thousand people since
- 14:35our inception, and as I said, we've helped over two hundred survivors.
- 14:41And every day we're in the community reaching out to vulnerable populations, whether they're
- 14:46at our homeless shelter or you know, in other places where we know traffickers
- 14:50will prey on people. So we're out there and we really the only way
- 14:56we do this is with the help of people and the help of other people.
- 15:01It takes a village, and we really rely on our community for our
- 15:03support because you know, in my heart of hearts, I know that strengths.
- 15:09This strengthens every community where traffickers are. If people know more, they're
- 15:13able to step up and protect one another. Robin, thanks for what you're
- 15:18doing and I know we'll be in touch over over the year and years.
- 15:22Appreciate it so very much and thanks for joining me. I appreciate you so
- 15:26much. Preston, Thank you so so much again. Robin Hassler Thompson with
- 15:31us and it's the Survive and Thrive Advocacy Center. If you can go to
- 15:37the event, awesome. If you just want to make a donation, even
- 15:39better. Recurring is always good. You know my thoughts on those things.
- 15:43Survive and Thrive Advocacy dot Org here on The Morning Show with Preston Scott