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Post MMS and Carrier issues · United We Scan

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  Episode 39 Post Mini Mail Survey.
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  What a week it's been. I'm going to start off instead
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  of going through the guys 1st. And what a week it's been.
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  So last Saturday our Amazon showed up after cutoff time.
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  All right. So we agreed on Monday we
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  normally go in for two hours and case up flats.
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  And I had brought it up to management saying hey, we're
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  still in the mini mail survey, these have to be counted so we
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  can't case them. And supervisor said oh, but you
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  can deliver the Amazon that came in late today.
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  Okay, not a problem. Grant you're not.
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  I have two newbies with me who have never just ran out and done
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  packages. I was loaded in the truck before
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  they walked in the door. And then they are marking the
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  parcels, writing on the parcel markers, and marking the parcels
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  before they loaded them. So now you got an hour before
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  they get out the door. We have one hour left.
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  I took some that were rather far out, so I got back about 11:45
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  and we were supposed to be backing off the clock by 11:30.
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  That's put that way. No, you're there.
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  The other two are insight. I asked the clerk that was
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  there. I said did supervisor you give
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  you time? On what time these guys are
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  supposed to be back. She's like, no, but I need to be
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  off the clock by 12:30. I sent them a message, text
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  message said hey guys, you need to wrap it up, head back, and
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  everybody needs to be off the clock by 12:30.
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  I get a text message from the one sub that says Oh well, I
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  should be done by two. No, you need to be back in off
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  the clock because the clerk needs to be off the clock and
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  the building locked up by 12:30 at the latest.
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  Okay Monday Tuesday morning rolls in and we can't even get
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  in the parking lot because we have one Amazon truck delivery
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  while the other one is blocking our drive waiting for the dock
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  to be free. So we all yell at him.
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  And we get in and course we got our behinds handed to us.
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  Of course it was heavy on all accounts.
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  I am on Route 4 and Route 3, the one that the carrier just
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  retired on last week. Sub is on there.
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  He's griping and complaining and up one one way and down another
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  and all this other stuff. I happen to be the veterans,
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  smart ass RCA that I am. That says, well, it's all
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  downhill from here. No, excuse me, I said.
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  Well, it doesn't get any, you know, better from here on out
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  till after Christmas. Yeah, I guess I probably
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  shouldn't have said that. I'm getting ready to put my.
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  I'm putting my, my smalls in order and I I don't see him at
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  the case. I'm like, oh, maybe he's out
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  loading because I didn't see the hamper there and I'm getting
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  ready to go load. It's probably been good 1520
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  minutes or 1/2 hour. And I go walk past route three's
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  case and his badge, arrow key and scanner are sitting on the
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  desk. I went, oh shit, I walked
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  outside and his car was gone. Walked back in straight to the
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  supervisor's desk and said Yep, he walked.
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  She's like what I said, Yeah. Told her what I found.
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  She's like, you're kidding. I went back outside again,
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  looked in the LLVLLV keys were in the ignition of the LLV.
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  Pulled those out, came back. They tried to call the carrier
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  in the for the route I was covering.
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  She couldn't come in, so the postmaster and it borrowed.
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  RCA split Route 3 on Tuesday. And I've been running Route 3
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  ever since and will until it goes up, forbid and I'm awarded
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  it. So I am now six days a week on
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  A45K indefinitely. That's been my week.
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  Yeah, that was your week or Josh, huh?
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  I said. So what you said what you're
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  saying is you scared them off. I don't think we won them all.
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  No, I don't think I scared him off.
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  He's been. We've been waiting for him to
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  go. He's just.
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  Well, you know it doesn't haven't.
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  Doesn't have a good time to do it.
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  Well, the last one quit on a heavy day too.
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  Walked off. So it's just they can't handle
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  the heavy days I'm guessing. I mean, having done it for so
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  many years, I take it with a green of salt anymore, but Yep.
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  He still left a good stack of flats and raw mail that still
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  needed to be cased postmasters and they're trying to case it
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  and then I'm out loading the road I'm on and the borrowed sub
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  walks up. But I looked at him and I said,
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  boy, you're a sight for sore eyes.
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  And I told him what happened and I said so I imagine you're going
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  to be working a lot more in just a couple hours on that ox are
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  out today. Yep, they got back after 8:00,
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  both him and the postmaster. I mean, I got back at 6:45.
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  I put in a 12 and 1/4 hour day myself.
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  But yeah, it was well after 8:00 when they got back.
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  Ouch. And so that just yanked me off
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  the schedule for covering all the other routes and on
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  Saturdays as it is right now, I still had to take my OX route
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  yesterday. You'll probably do to be doing
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  that all all the rest of the time.
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  Well, we are going to, we've got the borrowed sub a few days to
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  cover it and then our other newbie, he's going to try out
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  the ox route coming up Thursday and then he had some things
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  going on this week, so he wasn't available.
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  And then the following week, we're actually going to train
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  him on the 41 K route that we nicknamed Turn Around.
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  Because that one will need coverage one Saturday.
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  And I said being the only one in the office that knows all the
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  routes, this really just screwed everybody.
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  And because of it and being not a leave replacement available
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  for that weekend of my fall booster, this will only be the
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  second one I have missed in eight years.
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  I'm not happy about it. It happens.
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  It does. It does.
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  And I'm going to say that because one of the other
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  regulars already, even though it's his kday, he put in for it
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  to make sure he had it off for a family event.
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  So yeah, means I have nobody to run my route, and probably won't
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  for a while, but I already am preparing to have my 120 day
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  letter ready to turn in the day I officially take that route
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  over as a regular, so. Yeah, that was my week in a
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  nutshell, James. That was your week.
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  Well, other than it being the normal count stuff, most of it
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  was pretty much easy. They decided to change our start
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  times from 7:45 to 8:00 again, like we were before.
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  They changed the start times. They went from 8:00 to 8:30 and
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  then they changed it back to 7:45 and now we're back to 8:00
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  again. And so we'll be starting at 8:00
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  starting well yesterday, but other than Friday was okay
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  except I had two full broken bundles of presorted flats and
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  they were the mixed mixed flats with the first class, 3rd class,
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  all that stuff in it. And it had WSH Costco's in them
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  too. So I got all of those added
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  added in on my account sheet. Because it was a broken bundle
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  and there was 2 broken bundles. Both bundles had at least 75
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  pieces in them each, so I ended up with 202 random flats for
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  that. I had water bills come in for
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  95% of my route raw. Yeah, and inverts and stuff like
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  that weren't too bad this week, which seems to be the trend
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  across a lot of a lot of places, not everywhere.
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  But a lot of places saw very minimal GPS errors compared to
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  normal, which seems about right for the mini mail.
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  Survey time didn't have too many issues in office, but you know
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  it's good when you have an office that actually works as a
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  cohesive team and has management that cares about you.
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  But we'll get into that later on in our rabbit hole discussion
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  that we normally get at the end of our thing.
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  So I'm I'm giving, I'm dropping hints to our listeners to pay
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  attention because the passions coming out today again, so.
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  Josh. How was your?
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  Yeah, your turn, Josh. How was your week?
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  My week was not too horrible. During the survey, I had at
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  least three days where at least one of my tree trays of GPS was
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  completely screwed up, giving me 100 and something random letters
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  out of just that tray. I should say some between 100
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  and 200, depending on which of the three days it was.
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  It wasn't too horrible this past week.
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  I have an RCA that I've been training for my route.
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  She went to Academy the first week of the survey so I had to
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  do one day before she went to Academy and then she was back
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  Tuesday morning. Helped me get it cased up.
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  And then they pulled her to run parcels because I had so many
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  routes there on the other side of the other zone.
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  She goes to vehicle training or this Tuesday coming up, so I
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  have Monday and Wednesday to get her up the bar so she can run
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  the route on her own. And the supervisor said she will
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  consider the two pay periods to start after vehicle training.
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  So that'll be really nice. Hello, Bill, how was your week?
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  Oh, it was wonderful. I outraged a little over 500
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  pieces of WSH every day, duly recorded and noted.
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  I could never walk out and leave my badge and scanner and keys on
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  the on my case because I haven't had a badge in in nine years.
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  So yeah, forced in again on Saturday against my will.
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  And then the PTF who transferred into our office from another
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  office who took annual on Friday, called out on Saturday
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  and then didn't have to work today because he was moving, you
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  know, right. Ended up they just took a brand
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  new hire and put her on Amazon Sunday.
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  Never been out on a route and put her on Amazon Sunday.
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  She will last not very long. You.
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  Can't make this shit, no. You cannot.
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  We we have we have two people out on medical.
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  One's been out for almost 3 months now, the other one's been
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  out two weeks. But because of the two week time
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  period, our superior management team who schedules us, forgets
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  the fact that he's not coming in and put the new schedule up with
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  him still on the schedule. So you know Saturday where we
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  have a vacant route and the postmaster gave us our service
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  talk and says you know, well who can help on the vacant route.
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  So I stick my hand up. He says you.
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  I said no, I'm working my drop day, I can't work any extra.
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  And he says why not. I says in the contract he said
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  I'll make a deal. I said I'll make a deals with
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  you. Everybody started laughing and
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  y'all and yeah he goes, I really hate you Bill.
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  And I said I'm doing my job then.
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  I mean, you know, come on, I I'm already helping you by being in
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  on my day off, you know, and please don't ask me to do
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  anymore because you know, I'm at that tipping point.
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  Yep, I hear ya. We've got quite a bit going on
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  for this show today. How'd you want to start off,
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  James? You want me to start off with?
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  Messages and emails or. Before we get into it, you know
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  Bill, you said talking about them, them working you.
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  Apparently the rural manager down there decided she doesn't
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  going to have to deal with X days, so she'll pretty much, you
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  know, anyone not in the list will not work.
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  OK. And then I just heard in the
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  last day or two, the supervisor. Or someone told me that the
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  supervisors told them that when you work your relief day, you
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  can't take a code free, you have to take the pie.
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  So I will have to let my Rep know that so they can get that
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  address. All right, so because this is
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  the end of the mini Mail survey, a lot of people are wondering
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  what happens next. So the few things I have.
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  On here, the first one is about signing the sheet, confirming
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  count numbers and selecting the high low option.
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  So I figured that would be a good starting easy starting
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  point. Not too political or passionate.
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  I figured we could start there. What do you guys think?
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  Go for it. Our chart not too It's painful.
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  So. Now that the mini mail survey is
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  over and you've done all the all the mail figures and management
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  has punched everything in the computer, they're going to print
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  out a sheet. And some people have already
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  gotten it Saturday showing the count numbers for your random
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  letters, random flats, so on and so forth.
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  And they're going to want you to sign the sheet, verifying the
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  numbers, and then they also want you to select high or low option
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  if that's available to you. And that's only available to
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  regular carriers who have 10 years in as a regular carrier,
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  anybody under 10 years does not get the choice, they
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  automatically get low option. So Bill, your thoughts on
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  signing the count sheet? Not going to happen first of all
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  if you look at the count sheet. And if you look below the
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  numbers, it says they want you to complete the section below at
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  the last day of the minimail survey.
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  Well, in my office our supervisor wasn't available.
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  The minimail survey sheet wasn't printed.
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  Ergo we couldn't sign it. But folks, why are you going to
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  sign the high low option when you don't even know your
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  evaluation yet? There's no service talks on our
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  minimail survey sheet. I'm not giving them one ounce of
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  ink in regards to signing that sheet, and when they come by
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  I'll just flatly refuse. I I won't even sign on there
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  that I refuse. I'm just refusing and asking for
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  a copy of it with their name on there.
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  Whatever they want to write is fine by me because of the fact
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  that I'm not making a decision based on numbers and an
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  evaluation that I'm I have no knowledge of.
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  Besides the fact that we still have all the discrepancies of,
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  you know, the missing numbers on radar correlating to the days
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  that you actually delivered the bundle flats mini Ram.
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  And don't don't forget, if you have a discrepancy like your WSH
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  numbers, that means that those count numbers are incorrect and
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  therefore you should not sign and accept them as accurate.
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  I didn't see a piece of. WSH in my office all last two
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  weeks. We don't get a lot of it.
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  Yeah, to be honest, I wasn't paying that close enough
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  attention. But I don't.
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  I don't think I've got any either.
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  Maybe one or two pieces that were in a middle of a bundle of
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  other things, but I didn't have anything that was like the
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  Costco or Sam's Club stuff. Come in during the count so you
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  sign the for the high option you're you're signing that you
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  agree to take enough leave to keep you under 2080 and they
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  can, you know, they can hold you to that come the you know later
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  next year. Unless you have denied leave
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  slips. Well, that's a whole another.
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  That's a whole another ball game.
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  Yeah, that's that's as they say, a horse or another color.
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  Well, and here's here's another conflict of the situation.
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  We have 18 rural routes in our office and we all got these
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  local publications by the different counties and townships
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  and everything. 16 of the routes had them as WSH's well and my
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  629 house route I got 548 WSH. 2 routes.
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  Only two routes in the entire office.
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  Got them as WSS. Why?
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  How come? Did they forget that?
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  Did they screw up? Did the post office not warn
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  these people? Or I mean you know it it is.
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  It is such a ridiculous system that we have right now.
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  There's so many holes and errors in it.
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  I turn around, I come back on Saturday and I have, you know,
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  the the package look ahead and I have a package left on my
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  scanner. And I tell the supervisor and he
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  goes and the computer says, Peter says you don't have
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  anything. I says, how are we to trust
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  these scanners with our paychecks?
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  Second mini grant. Done.
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  We'll get, we'll get in. We'll get into that later, too.
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  Well, Bill, keep in mind with that with that one in the look
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  ahead, it could have went to an office in Philadelphia, got
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  scanned, arrived at unit there. It'll put it in your look ahead,
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  but then if they you know and then they can track it seeing
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  that it was stand in at 19020 or whatever zip it is rather than
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  your zip code and that they should have put a miss set scan
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  on it once they caught it. It shouldn't matter it if it
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  doesn't get there in time for me to take it to the street, it
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  shouldn't be on the system for that day.
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  Period. Remember, we have all these
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  geniuses who designed the system, Okay.
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  Not disagreeing with carriers like us.
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  Yep. Not disagreeing with you.
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  All right. So we're going to move to when
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  are the evaluations going to come back to the carriers, now
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  the. Postal Service and the union
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  have said that the evaluations will be going into effect
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  October 7th, Supposedly. Now what that means for us is
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  they should supposedly have our numbers back to us no later than
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  September 30th has to be the the preceding pay period.
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  It has to come to us so it can go into effect after the next
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  pay period. So September 30th, October 7th,
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  It's a week before. Now, through the rumor mill I've
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  been hearing, supposedly the 23rd the numbers will be
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  available, the evaluations will be available, but I'm not
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  holding my breath on that. And there's there's no debate
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  that they might even delay this count too, just like the last
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  one. No, I don't think they'll delay
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  it. I just think that you know they
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  gave longer so they could hopefully not have the BS that
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  we had this last go round with three different 4241 A's.
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  So I don't know. I don't think they're going to
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  delay it. I just think it's going to be
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  another cluster, but that's me. And when they finally come out
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  with it, just to give you guys a heads up, when they finally come
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  out with it, we will be bringing up a podcast on the dispute
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  process and how to do the dispute form.
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  As soon as we get that information, we will let you
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  guys know. But until that time,
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  unfortunately, we're just as much in the dark as you guys are
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  on it. We can go by.
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  We can go by what happened the last time.
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  But just like everything else in the rec system, it changes more
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  often than people change their underwear.
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  So yeah. There is a dispute highlight
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  thing on the national website but that's about all there is at
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  the moment. Just highlighting what you
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  actually can dispute and what you need to dispute it and and
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  let me tell you it from a personal point of view that's
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  bullshit. They're limiting what we can
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  dispute when there is tons of items outside of that spectrum
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  that are are up in the air. I mean you know the parcel is a
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  parcel is a parcel if it's in the hamper it's a parcel not in
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  this office but it is in that office.
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  You know if it if it you know fits in your case, you know it's
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  a parcel. Well, if you can bend it over 6
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  times, it's it's a flat. Like I said this, this is like
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  Obamacare. You had to vote for it to see
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  what's in it. This they're saying you had to
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  implement to see what we need to correct.
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  No, you didn't spend 11 years on this, ladies and gentlemen, to
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  find out the bugs after you put it into effect.
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  And our national board should have never agreed to put this
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  into effect. They have failed us.
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  I agree. I think they should have took
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  those test study offices and made them beta testing offices
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  before everything went live. But no, that makes sense.
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  You are correct, we're not left. All right.
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  The next one is, will there be adjustments made after this mini
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  mail survey? It's been a big dispute online.
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  I want to get your guys's take on it.
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  I've heard supposedly after New Year's that they well they've
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  been testing a process the last couple months in small regions.
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  I heard supposedly after New Year's they should be able to do
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  it. And they hold off until after
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  the next mini mail survey. That way everybody's route at
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  least has 52 weeks worth of. Actual information in it, you
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  know, with the scans and stuff like that and the inputs and so
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  on and so forth, but we know how they are and we have to take
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  everything with a little bit of carrier discretion.
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  Well, not looking at it, but if I remember correctly, didn't the
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  Mo U what was? I know it was October of this
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  year. Was it the 7th or was it the
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  31st on that MSU? Towards the end of the month,
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  let me go look. It up.
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  All right. So it was the 30.
• 26:33
  So it would have been October 31st of this year, which puts us
• 26:37
  into November, which means they're not going to get into it
• 26:41
  because of the holiday season, which puts us into January
• 26:45
  anyway at the absolute earliest. Yeah.
• 26:59
  Hey, it we'll see. I mean.
• 27:03
  That with the with the change of the CBU's and curbside volume
• 27:10
  factor system, I think it would be wise of them to hold off on
• 27:13
  that anyway in the first place. It'll be interesting to see how
• 27:19
  that affects things overall. You know because.
• 27:24
  Like you guys are like I know Kristen most of her your routes
• 27:28
  or curbside yes where my route is 7 is probably 70% CVU.
• 27:37
  It is in effect going back to your MOU on route territorial
• 27:42
  adjustments. It is October 7th is when that
• 27:47
  ML. U expires, right?
• 27:49
  I couldn't remember if it was the 7th of the 31st.
• 27:51
  I knew it was one or the other. Yeah, it's the 7th.
• 27:54
  I just looked it up. OK yeah, it was the IT was the
• 27:57
  end of this count. But I would not put it past them
• 28:00
  to extend it because they probably still haven't figured
• 28:02
  out how to do the computer programming.
• 28:05
  I doubt they'll extend it. They just have it.
• 28:11
  They haven't figured out the mapping yet for everybody and
• 28:14
  the the mapping keeps changing. So how they gonna figure out the
• 28:18
  adjustments? You can't even get management to
• 28:22
  sit down and map with the carriers still.
• 28:25
  I can't. I I It just irks me.
• 28:30
  So Chris and our ours are even worse.
• 28:32
  We have to have a facilitator there because our manager
• 28:35
  doesn't know how to do it. My manager told me that once I
• 28:39
  go full time, she doesn't think I'll be able to facilitate
• 28:43
  anymore because she doesn't know how to pay me.
• 28:49
  Yeah. 8127 time on a P code. That's how you pay them.
• 28:56
  That's how I get paid for it is 8127 on a P code.
• 28:59
  Of course then I have to explain.
• 29:01
  Then I have to explain to our state secretary that I'm only
• 29:05
  doing math, I think facilitation, in order to be
• 29:08
  able to be a delegate and conventions.
• 29:12
  Yeah, yeah. But do you have your own ACE ID
• 29:16
  for that? No, I do not.
• 29:19
  Okay, so you use managements like I do.
• 29:22
  Exactly, although technically, just like clerks and city
• 29:27
  carriers, we all should have ACE IDs to log into the computer.
• 29:30
  But the issue is, is that you have to log in once at least
• 29:34
  every two weeks in order for you to maintain the log in for it.
• 29:39
  Yeah. Oh hell, we can't even log into
• 29:43
  the Wi-Fi doing steward work. What the hell makes you think
• 29:47
  they're going to give you any type of access to their system?
• 29:50
  Oh, I know, right? I wouldn't.
• 29:52
  I wouldn't use their systems, their internets or anything for
• 29:56
  steward work because that allows them to have access to
• 30:00
  everything. Yeah, No.
• 30:02
  Every piece of data you pass through their Wi-Fi, every piece
• 30:05
  of data you pass through their Wi-Fi they can look at.
• 30:11
  All right. And I wouldn't put.
• 30:12
  That going off track here, Let's move her back on to where we
• 30:15
  were. OK.
• 30:17
  All right. So we've had some carriers get
• 30:22
  their dispute forms back. Some carriers did win their
• 30:28
  disputes. However, they got their
• 30:30
  adjustments and are not getting any back pay on it.
• 30:34
  Some carriers got their dispute forms back and it told them
• 30:40
  that. Because they argued that they
• 30:43
  didn't receive training on it, that it's been on the union
• 30:47
  website since April of 2022. Some of them have not gotten
• 30:52
  their dispute forms back yet. It's been a giant cluster
• 30:56
  bucket. It has been.
• 30:59
  It really has been. And the problem The problem is
• 31:03
  some of it is. Not getting relayed from the
• 31:07
  management to the carrier, some of it is.
• 31:10
  It hasn't been fully resolved yet through this.
• 31:13
  Now, have any of you guys gotten your disputes back?
• 31:16
  We had the one in our office on my primary route because he had
• 31:21
  filed that dispute on the mileage.
• 31:23
  He has not received the actual dispute back from management.
• 31:27
  In fact, my postmaster hasn't even received it yet.
• 31:31
  However, he got a new form 50 a couple weeks ago, or I should
• 31:36
  say yeah, it last week before the paycheck stuff that had the
• 31:43
  effective date of May 26th on it to where his mileage was correct
• 31:49
  and it was actually enough to put him up one hour and on his
• 31:55
  paycheck he received. He did have the pay adjustment
• 31:58
  retro pay on there. As did I.
• 32:00
  Wasn't much, but for me. But yeah, and the and the and
• 32:04
  the back pay too, right? Yeah, yeah, he got the he got
• 32:09
  the EMA and the back pay. Yeah.
• 32:15
  Now the the Delaware P A2 district, we still have at least
• 32:21
  40 plus offices that haven't received their disputes back yet
• 32:25
  from the first mini mail survey. I know in North Carolina of the
• 32:33
  4000 disputes they had, they did, they did sit on all.
• 32:39
  And the understanding I have is labor was supposed to sprinkle
• 32:46
  it down to to local management who was then supposed to give it
• 32:49
  to the carrier. But you know, like James said,
• 32:54
  some of them. It hasn't made its way to the
• 32:58
  local management yet. You guys were ready for the
• 33:02
  passionate hardcore 1:00 tonight?
• 33:05
  Go for it. Yeah, baby.
• 33:08
  Go, go. Light it up, baby.
• 33:12
  Light it up. Between the group of us, we've
• 33:15
  gotten several emails and messages about managerial
• 33:21
  harassment, so I'm going to read.
• 33:26
  Each e-mail lets you guys discuss the e-mail itself.
• 33:31
  And then after those two emails, then we can get into an actual
• 33:35
  discussion on how to deal with managerial harassment.
• 33:39
  Okay. Can we do that that way?
• 33:43
  Yep. All right, so this first one, I
• 33:48
  have an area on my route that has five Cbus.
• 33:52
  In another area, the next street over that also has five CBUS.
• 33:57
  These addresses are for brand new half million to million
• 34:00
  dollar homes in some condos, around 200 addresses between the
• 34:05
  10 CB U's. I've been on my route for almost
• 34:09
  five years and I was a sub on my route before I did it.
• 34:13
  I've always delivered these the same way even before Rex.
• 34:17
  I load tubs below my tray for each set of five two total.
• 34:22
  Any of the larger packages go in my door jam on the left hand
• 34:25
  side as long as they fit. When I pull up, I pull up on the
• 34:29
  left hand side and deliver from that side back and forth between
• 34:32
  my truck and the CBU. This is a high volume area with
• 34:36
  a lot of packages and a lot of flats and at least two bundles
• 34:41
  of D PS:. A day.
• 34:44
  I am a 5 foot one petite girl. I can only hold so much D PS:.
• 34:49
  In my hands at a time. Yet I am being harassed about
• 34:54
  making too many authorized dismount trips.
• 34:57
  Currently on a daily basis I have anywhere from 6 to 9 trips,
• 35:02
  including my initial trip to complete delivery.
• 35:05
  In the beginning, our postmaster and supervisors were telling us
• 35:08
  that packages were not counted in the trips.
• 35:11
  They literally had a stand up talk saying to not include
• 35:13
  packages. After reading through the recs
• 35:16
  questions I realized that there were at least two areas in there
• 35:19
  that said packages were included.
• 35:22
  I brought this to the attention of my postmaster and was yelled
• 35:25
  at and she has yet to correct it with anyone.
• 35:28
  About 3 weeks ago my supervisor came up to me and told me on the
• 35:32
  workroom floor that I needed to start doing 1 authorized
• 35:36
  dismount for my area and take a tub to the CBU and work out of
• 35:40
  the tub and scoot it with my foot.
• 35:43
  I let them know that this is a safety issue and also an issue
• 35:46
  of protecting the mail from theft and weather.
• 35:49
  I asked him to put it in writing what he was telling me because
• 35:52
  it sounded so ridiculous. I got it in writing, which I
• 35:55
  will include. It has no letterhead, no date
• 35:58
  and I did not sign it and he asked me to after are we
• 36:02
  supposed to sign what we asked them to put into writing?
• 36:05
  After this conversation, I filed A grievance which currently my
• 36:09
  inhouse steward has pushed back until the 14th.
• 36:12
  Because of count, about a week after getting that I had an I I
• 36:17
  following a direct on following a direct order from my
• 36:20
  supervisor which he did not have the exact date on when he gave
• 36:25
  me that direct order because he is considering the letter he
• 36:28
  gave me that I asked him to write is his writing as a direct
• 36:32
  order. Fast forward a little bit until
• 36:34
  yesterday I was given seven day in house suspension form for not
• 36:38
  stopping my scans. The day I went into the office
• 36:42
  this morning with another grievance on the suspension and
• 36:46
  my supervisor had a hard time signing it because he says he is
• 36:49
  not disciplining me because of my scans.
• 36:52
  But it's disciplining me because I'm not following instructions
• 36:55
  to which the instructions I am not following are my scans.
• 36:59
  So I'm very confused. I have asked him to look back
• 37:03
  into past data. To which he said he could see
• 37:06
  back to November of last year and could see that my stands
• 37:09
  were similar to what I'm inputting now.
• 37:12
  My route is a 47K and went up with last count.
• 37:15
  What can I do? I'm so stressed about this and
• 37:19
  I'm losing pay due to not putting in the numbers that are
• 37:21
  correct. My supervisor has said that I
• 37:25
  could just grab it later and then probably get a settlement
• 37:28
  for it, but I don't know how that would work towards my
• 37:31
  salary. I'm really sick of dealing with
• 37:33
  this and I'm hoping you guys can provide me some clarity or
• 37:36
  direction while I'm waiting on an e-mail back from our district
• 37:39
  Rep Love the pod guys and you guys are keeping me sane and
• 37:43
  going. Thank you.
• 37:44
  That was a long one. It did.
• 37:50
  It started off with this one going to be a long one that was
• 37:55
  sent three days ago. By the way, just so y'all have a
• 37:58
  heat line. I want to hear bills on this
• 38:05
  one. Yeah, definitely.
• 38:07
  Bill would be the one I want to hear, but I would hope that we
• 38:09
  would give him time to gather his thoughts on it before we let
• 38:13
  him loose. File file, file, file, file and
• 38:18
  then file again. And if you don't get a reply
• 38:23
  from your Dr. move up the chain and and then you go EE O and
• 38:30
  file for harassment. If you have it in history of
• 38:34
  delivering those CBU showing your dismount, how can they
• 38:38
  contend that you're not doing it properly?
• 38:41
  If you have paperwork in your hand showing that the parcels
• 38:45
  are authorized dismounts at CBU, how can they argue it?
• 38:49
  They are in direct violation of the contract.
• 38:52
  Keep filing until you choke them with enough paper, until it
• 38:56
  comes out their ass. Enough of this harassment and
• 39:00
  you relay that to your local registered union representative,
• 39:05
  the ADR, the Dr. and you go up to your committee person and you
• 39:09
  don't stop until they back off. The first time you back off is
• 39:14
  when they're going to win. OK, so don't back off.
• 39:19
  Make them eat. Their word.
• 39:21
  Make them read the contract. Make them honor the contract.
• 39:26
  And don't settle for language. Oh, hell no, because I'll give
• 39:31
  you some language that settle for.
• 39:35
  Anybody else on that one or you want to go on the second one
• 39:38
  before we get finish up with harassment?
• 39:42
  You said that the supervisors and put it in writing but would
• 39:44
  not date it or sign it themselves.
• 39:48
  It's not a direct order, it's it's not signed if they're not
• 39:52
  willing to put their name on it. They wanted to have the carrier
• 39:59
  signed, acknowledging, yeah. So I would just put that in as
• 40:06
  part of the statement that the Union reference with the
• 40:09
  grievance. Yeah, you're saying they did not
• 40:15
  make it a direct order because they did not date and sign it
• 40:19
  and they can't prove what date they gave it to you, and you
• 40:24
  don't have a copy of it either. So did they just print this out
• 40:27
  themselves? Did they print this out to make
• 40:30
  it look like they had a direct order that day?
• 40:34
  Because they have to put their signature on it with a round
• 40:37
  date. The round date is not, so that
• 40:40
  way they could say it was On this date.
• 40:42
  That round date is to say it was this office On this date.
• 40:46
  That's what the round date is for.
• 40:47
  It's your post offices stamp saying your cancellation stamp,
• 40:51
  basically saying that it was this office at this date and
• 40:56
  that's when they should round date it and sign it.
• 40:59
  And that makes it a direct order.
• 41:01
  They're just writing it on pieces of paper.
• 41:03
  It's not a direct order because they don't have the date or
• 41:05
  their name on it saying it's from them, it's not their word,
• 41:10
  it's just a piece of paper. It could have been written by
• 41:13
  your case mate saying the same thing you they don't know the
• 41:17
  difference. So but the next one I have is
• 41:24
  kind of along the same lines but also more other parts of recs in
• 41:30
  the mini mail survey. Hello Unite, we scan.
• 41:34
  I became a new carrier February 11th, couple weeks before a mini
• 41:38
  mail survey. The route I ended up with was a
• 41:41
  growing 44-H route even though the entire office knows it's
• 41:45
  more package heavy. We also were aware the previous
• 41:49
  carrier on the route only did 6 scans, never scanning at
• 41:54
  delivery points and had an updated mapping.
• 41:57
  Mini mail survey ends and my route actually went down to a 43
• 42:00
  H well every route in our office went up.
• 42:03
  Didn't make sense. Finally got on the mapping and
• 42:06
  there was a lot missing. Fix what I knew PO is not a lot
• 42:11
  of help and I'm just learning the system now.
• 42:14
  The route is averaging 200 plus package of the day 350 ish on
• 42:19
  Mondays. Most days I have three trips to
• 42:22
  get it all done. The PO is refusing to give me
• 42:25
  help saying only overburden routes get help Knowing the
• 42:29
  truth about this route. It's so discouraging knowing the
• 42:32
  post office allows one person so much abusing power over a
• 42:35
  facility. But that's another story
• 42:38
  question PO has avoided doing mapping with me all of August.
• 42:43
  I've asked every week right up until September 8th.
• 42:46
  She can't says can't do mapping until books come back.
• 42:49
  They've had my book all month. Should I grieve this ASAP?
• 42:53
  Also she won't give me package help to do mapping at on end of
• 42:57
  shift duties. She would expect me to do it do
• 43:00
  on my PM casing time. Is she required to help me so I
• 43:04
  can get mapping done on end of shift time?
• 43:07
  Grievance question. Since I started working there
• 43:11
  almost three years now. There is black mold growing on
• 43:14
  the ceiling. Majority is over my case.
• 43:16
  People have complained and nothing got done.
• 43:18
  Is there something that can be done?
• 43:20
  Every few weeks I have to call out or take a day off.
• 43:24
  I'm working six days a week with no package help.
• 43:26
  It's painful. My body hurts everywhere.
• 43:29
  I have injuries from overuse that are not healing.
• 43:33
  I call out on September 25th, she texted me saying I need a
• 43:36
  doctor note. I replied if I'm out three days
• 43:38
  or more, you'll get one. She said I have authority to ask
• 43:41
  now. I ignored it. 14 days later she
• 43:44
  pulls me in her office saying she's doing an investigation of
• 43:47
  interview. My union steward was with me.
• 43:50
  PO said she had every right to ask for a doctor's note from me.
• 43:54
  I bit my tongue, just answered her questions and left.
• 43:57
  Union Steward assured me she did nothing official and it was a
• 44:00
  scare tactic. I really can't stand this
• 44:03
  person, but I it won't make me back down.
• 44:06
  She's a bully. I'm not having it.
• 44:09
  Anyway, thoughts on this day? One sick and note needed.
• 44:12
  Thanks for hearing me out. I'm tired, stressed and angry.
• 44:15
  I like my job. I love you all.
• 44:17
  Listen, every week you've helped build confidence in my craft
• 44:20
  well. 1st thank you second for the mold 1767.
• 44:31
  And contact OSHA. Yep, unfortunately Parcel help.
• 44:41
  There's not much that can be done in regards to getting
• 44:45
  parcel Help. Come back at the end of the day
• 44:48
  after completing the route while still return to.
• 44:52
  I'm sorry, delivery unit is when you would do the mapping if
• 44:58
  they're doing it in the afternoon.
• 45:00
  Not on PM Jason if there if your postmaster is telling you you
• 45:03
  have to do it on PM Jason, file on that.
• 45:07
  I would say if you you got the route in February what's and if
• 45:14
  you've been doing all of your stands religiously since you got
• 45:17
  the route in February, let's see where you end up this time.
• 45:21
  Hopefully you'll be you know you'll go up and to at least
• 45:26
  today route but until. We get these results.
• 45:34
  It's hard to say, you know, hard to say anything you know it take
• 45:37
  you. Keep in mind it's going to take
• 45:38
  a full 52 weeks, so it won't be until the next mini mail survey,
• 45:44
  a new evaluation that you'll actually see the full results of
• 45:49
  what the route is really worth. If the your predecessor was only
• 45:54
  doing the six mandatory scans next, yeah, I'm going to say
• 46:02
  you're postmaster avoiding doing the mapping.
• 46:05
  Definitely file a grievance on that, especially now that the
• 46:09
  minimail survey is over and the results are going to be coming
• 46:12
  in. That's one of the big things
• 46:15
  that you need to file on is that I have not done mapping and I
• 46:18
  did not have mapping completed by the minimail survey time or
• 46:22
  by the end of the minimail survey.
• 46:24
  That way you have the 14 days to file the grievance from the end
• 46:27
  of the minimail survey because they were supposed to have that
• 46:30
  done by the 8th and if your mapping is not accurate and not
• 46:35
  complete file agreements on that.
• 46:38
  That is separate from the dispute process.
• 46:41
  Mapping should be done monthly and it should be done on return
• 46:45
  to DU time should not be on PM casings should not be clocked
• 46:48
  out. The only other way mapping can
• 46:52
  be done is 8127 time in the morning and they provide
• 46:57
  auxiliary assistance for you, whether it's putting a sub in
• 47:00
  your case to continue casing while you're doing the mapping
• 47:03
  or giving you parcel help when you're out delivering on the
• 47:07
  route one of the two, but that's well that.
• 47:09
  Definitely needs to be agreed. It would be either 8127 or
• 47:15
  auxiliary help for the amount of time that it took you to do the
• 47:17
  mapping. No during in the AM time, they
• 47:21
  should be giving auxiliary assistance while doing mapping
• 47:24
  and the mapping should be on 8127 times because it's supposed
• 47:27
  to be baked into the evaluation. So they're paying for not baking
• 47:31
  it in the evaluation and the auxiliary assistance is just to
• 47:34
  keep them in timeline on their route.
• 47:40
  I'd have to look into that one, but I I think it would be I I
• 47:44
  understand what you're saying, but I think it would be either
• 47:47
  or because if they give you. Let's say it's a hour.
• 47:51
  If they give them what A an hour?
• 47:52
  If anyone's from the 7th time you're getting paid that hour,
• 47:55
  if they give me one hour of a journey of social that much of
• 47:58
  the time you were in the August month with the week, yeah.
• 48:03
  So we'll figure that out and we'll we'll let you guys know
• 48:06
  next week we'll make a note of that Josh.
• 48:09
  We'll look it up and give it the the results of next week's
• 48:13
  podcast and then the other can I other question?
• 48:18
  Can I add a footnote on there? Didn't I see something on our
• 48:22
  national website saying mapping is the most important phase of
• 48:28
  the rec system? Yes.
• 48:32
  Okay. Then how come we're not forcing
• 48:36
  this issue from the national level?
• 48:41
  People can draw their own conclusions that carry your
• 48:44
  discretion on that. Yeah, I I would say to every
• 48:54
  carrier out there who is not being let, who is not involved
• 49:00
  in their mapping in any way shape or form, whether it's
• 49:05
  excuse after excuse or trying to whatever it is file immediately.
• 49:14
  Every single one of you out there who hasn't been able.
• 49:17
  To update who hasn't been able to look at it?
• 49:20
  Who is told? You know no, we're just doing
• 49:23
  updates. You can't look at anything else.
• 49:26
  Who hasn't been allowed to look at anything?
• 49:28
  Whose management mapped it for them without telling them any?
• 49:33
  Any and everything of that stuff needs to be filed on and keep
• 49:38
  filing on it until something to happen, till it's taken care of,
• 49:43
  until you're doing it every single month and they give you
• 49:47
  the ability to go through everything on the mapping
• 49:49
  program every single time. File a grievance.
• 49:52
  If they're not allowing you to do that, it doesn't matter if
• 49:55
  you have no updates to your edit book.
• 49:57
  I had no updates one month and I went in, did my mapping, and I
• 50:01
  found errors in my mapping. I had that.
• 50:05
  So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether you
• 50:08
  have updates or not. You should be going through your
• 50:11
  mapping every single month, and there are a lot of managers that
• 50:15
  won't let you do that. I know a manager personally who
• 50:19
  I know would not do that with their carriers.
• 50:23
  I can't say anything for that office because I'm not an area
• 50:27
  steward, ADR or Dr. or NRO or Director of Steward Operations.
• 50:33
  I can't say anything to that person right now, but those
• 50:37
  carriers should be filing agreements every single time
• 50:40
  with their designated union representative, and that is
• 50:45
  something that needs to be done now.
• 50:47
  We need to step up and protect our own pay.
• 50:51
  I'm going to finish up with just her last question here of the
• 50:55
  mold. Yes, contact your contact OSHA,
• 51:01
  Occupational Safety Health Administration, Contact your
• 51:04
  County Health Department. They have access to that as
• 51:08
  well, so I would get a hold of everybody you can to get that
• 51:13
  resolved and file us at a 1767 safety hazard form.
• 51:20
  Mold is deadly. Yes, yes, it is.
• 51:26
  So management's going to continue to harass us because
• 51:31
  they've been unabated by it. They've been doing it not only
• 51:34
  to us but the city carriers as well.
• 51:36
  You can hear that from aid arbitration.
• 51:39
  Management's going to harass carriers to get us to do things
• 51:44
  the way they want them done. And as soon as we continue to do
• 51:48
  them the way they've done, as soon as we start standing up for
• 51:51
  it, they're going to start saying, oh, past practice, we've
• 51:54
  been doing it this way, Past practice, we've been doing that
• 51:57
  way. Stand up now, fight for it now,
• 52:00
  or else you'll lose it. That's the biggest thing here.
• 52:05
  Past practice is something they're going to use against us,
• 52:09
  and unless we stand up and fight management now to support the
• 52:13
  contract that we have and the Mous we have and the Rex
• 52:18
  information that we have, use it or lose it.
• 52:25
  I hate to be a fear monger on that, but we know management
• 52:29
  will climb a tree to lie, then stand on the ground to tell the
• 52:33
  truth. Phil, go.
• 52:36
  This is your area. Past practices don't justify
• 52:40
  future action. If you've been doing it wrong,
• 52:44
  then correct it. If they don't, correct it.
• 52:47
  File, file, file. Ladies and gentlemen, let me
• 52:51
  tell you, there is nothing funnier than when I would walk
• 52:55
  up to the postmaster with a piece of paper in my hand and he
• 52:58
  would just roll his eyes and just say what now?
• 53:01
  Because he knew I'd have a grievance in my hand he was
• 53:05
  going to pay. And and language.
• 53:08
  I didn't settle for language. Except for yes.
• 53:10
  I'll take care of it. Make out the settlement form.
• 53:13
  I'll sign it. That's the only language I ever
• 53:15
  settled for every time. The only time I ever settled for
• 53:19
  language is when it went to Step 2.
• 53:22
  And then my Dr. got some of my language.
• 53:25
  Protect yourself. Protect the craft.
• 53:29
  Help those around you. There are plenty of people out
• 53:32
  there are afraid of retaliation. But if you get a strong enough.
• 53:37
  Face in your office. Then you'll all be able to stand
• 53:40
  up the management and they will back off.
• 53:43
  EE OS 1760 Seven's Call OSHA about the black mold, National
• 53:48
  Labor Relations Board, whatever it takes to get them in line.
• 53:53
  Because this is the worst I've ever seen in my life as far as
• 53:59
  the intimidation, the fear factor that management's trying
• 54:03
  to instill into our craft. Across the board, across the
• 54:07
  entire country, and I'm sick and tired of of hearing it.
• 54:10
  I I really AM. I'm going to add to that just a
• 54:15
  little bit. I was talking to an Academy
• 54:16
  instructor friend of mine this past week and they happen to
• 54:21
  have been in doing where they were teaching Academy the
• 54:26
  previous week. There was also management
• 54:28
  training going on, and all it was about was getting people out
• 54:32
  faster and working harder. They're going to abuse you.
• 54:39
  They're going to abuse you. They're going to see how much
• 54:43
  stuff they can get away from before you finally put your foot
• 54:47
  down and say enough is enough and now enough is enough.
• 54:53
  They've screwed with our pay. They've screwed with our work
• 54:57
  conditions. They've screwed with our
• 54:59
  benefits. They're screwing with carriers,
• 55:03
  making them work God awful hours because they're too lazy to hire
• 55:08
  people. They're too lazy to change the
• 55:09
  way they do things, to get more people into these offices, to
• 55:13
  get them to work. And they're too lazy to fix the
• 55:17
  system that's broken. And that system that's broken is
• 55:21
  management. The way they manage people is
• 55:24
  broken and we need to be the ones to stand up and tell them
• 55:29
  enough is enough and all it takes is 1 carrier in an office
• 55:34
  to file a grievance, turn around and get paid for that grievance
• 55:38
  and go look. I filed a grievance on them
• 55:40
  doing this to me and I got this check that gets the other
• 55:46
  carriers going. Money, money.
• 55:48
  I can get money and then more of them will file grievances.
• 55:54
  Be the person that steps up and shows these carriers that
• 55:57
  fighting for what you deserve. Fair pay for Fair Work.
• 56:04
  Show them the check. Get them involved.
• 56:08
  Show them that fighting for your money is worth it.
• 56:12
  Any steward worth their salt is going to fight every single
• 56:15
  grievance you put in front of them.
• 56:17
  It doesn't matter if they're going to win or lose, they're
• 56:20
  going to fight that one to the death.
• 56:23
  They're going to do a celebrity death match with management on
• 56:26
  that one for you. If they're the stewards worth
• 56:29
  their salt, and if you have a steward that's not worth their
• 56:32
  salt, you got several options. You can vote them out.
• 56:37
  You can run against them as a steward.
• 56:40
  You can turn around, contact your ADR, Dr. or whoever's above
• 56:44
  them and let them know that they're not doing their job.
• 56:49
  It's possible to win 95% of the grievances you put out there.
• 56:56
  The problem is people are only filing on 5% of the things that
• 57:01
  are grievable. Time to step up those numbers,
• 57:07
  time to get involved. Time to get in front of your
• 57:09
  management and get them to do the thing they're supposed to be
• 57:13
  doing, which is honoring the contract and honoring the Mou's
• 57:16
  that have been signed. We're a passionate group here.
• 57:22
  We care about all of you. We want you to succeed at this,
• 57:27
  but you need to step up and help us help you by filing
• 57:32
  grievances. I've got a comment from last
• 57:36
  week's episode that the commenter says I agree with Bill
• 57:42
  about geofencing scanning for that delay due to whether it's
• 57:46
  crazy that they call us thieves or liars.
• 57:49
  If they call this Integrity scanning, where is the Integrity
• 57:53
  Criminals Bike drop? Amen.
• 57:59
  Yeah. Well, we also have a comment in
• 58:04
  the chat section there about having somebody to stand up and
• 58:10
  don't wait for somebody else to do it.
• 58:12
  Be the first, be the first. And we'll stand.
• 58:16
  And we'll stand with you, everyone of us here.
• 58:20
  I I don't know if our listening audience understands, but.
• 58:24
  I'm not the most popular person at the National Convention for
• 58:28
  some unknown reason. I don't think any of us are
• 58:31
  anymore, but I'm definitely not anymore.
• 58:37
  But the thing, the thing of it is in my office where I had to
• 58:42
  represent people I'm not especially fond of.
• 58:46
  Do you know how big a smile they have when they get their pay
• 58:50
  stub and they see a grievance settlement on there?
• 58:53
  That they forgot about or they didn't expect to get or how much
• 58:58
  it was. And I tell him I said glad to be
• 59:02
  of service. And that's what this is about,
• 59:05
  being of service to you. All right, here's one for you
• 59:08
  guys in the In the chat, my union, Stewart says I have to
• 59:12
  pick my battles instead of just filing on every contract
• 59:16
  violation. I would say that your your, your
• 59:21
  union steward needs to go back to their route.
• 59:25
  If they're not on their route, and if they're a local union
• 59:28
  steward, I would say vote them out.
• 59:31
  Next time around. Remember a vote amount.
• 59:35
  In July, In July of 24 calls for contractually every four years
• 59:42
  to coincide with the presidential elections, you're
• 59:46
  supposed to have a. Stewart election.
• 59:50
  If you wish to, you don't have to, but yeah.
• 59:53
  Or have you removed have this steward removed for failure to
• 59:58
  duly represent? Yep.
• 1:00:00
  Yeah, you can call for an for an election for yourself too if you
• 1:00:04
  wish. I'm going to quote a friend of
• 1:00:06
  mine. I know I've cop screenshot of
• 1:00:10
  this opposed to a couple locations, but.
• 1:00:13
  I'm a quote a friend of mine who made a post the other day and
• 1:00:16
  this person has a lot of good words of wisdom that kind of
• 1:00:19
  fall into what we are speaking. It says if you're not grown
• 1:00:25
  enough to be able to listen to things with which you might
• 1:00:28
  disagree and be open to learning from differing opinions, then
• 1:00:33
  you're not yet grown enough for leadership, private sector or
• 1:00:36
  public service. In a world where you can be
• 1:00:39
  anything, be kind, and be kind enough to listen once in a
• 1:00:42
  while, the world can change in a positive way when listening
• 1:00:46
  happens. You're here.
• 1:00:52
  Yep. I would say going back to with,
• 1:00:59
  I would say going back to with what we were talking, you know
• 1:01:01
  with that comment that we were just talking about.
• 1:01:05
  Conversation I had with one of the supervisors that's not over
• 1:01:09
  the rule at all. So they don't deal with the
• 1:01:11
  grievances at all about a grievance that I filed for them
• 1:01:16
  sending messages on the spanner. He's like he asked what's the
• 1:01:24
  point? He says well how am I supposed
• 1:01:26
  to get information out to you? I'm like you can come out and
• 1:01:30
  find me on the route or wait till I get back.
• 1:01:34
  I he's like, why? Why file?
• 1:01:36
  I say because if I let you get away with something simple like
• 1:01:39
  that, what's the next thing you're going to try and break
• 1:01:42
  the contract with? Exactly.
• 1:01:49
  Don't be afraid to file on the small stuff, because the small
• 1:01:53
  stuff turns into big stuff. Yep, because we're going to say,
• 1:01:59
  well, we got away with this. What else can we get away with?
• 1:02:04
  And you don't want to do that. You know management.
• 1:02:12
  Management is not your friend. All right.
• 1:02:19
  I'm sorry, Bill, you were going to say something and.
• 1:02:22
  Well, the piggyback off of Kristen in regards to listening.
• 1:02:26
  It was funny because I went to Catholic school all my life.
• 1:02:31
  And I learned a very important lesson in 7th grade from a
• 1:02:36
  sister, Anne Elizabeth, who had a propensity for beating us.
• 1:02:41
  And I was arguing a .1 day and and she smacked me upside the
• 1:02:46
  head and said, you know, Mr. May, you can't listen if you're
• 1:02:50
  talking. And that's that's funny because
• 1:02:53
  it's so true. If you don't shut up, how are
• 1:02:57
  you going to listen to the other person?
• 1:03:00
  How are you going to hear what they're really saying?
• 1:03:02
  It's a physical anomaly that while you're talking, your jaws
• 1:03:08
  and your eardrums are working so that you're blocking out most of
• 1:03:11
  what the other person's trying to say.
• 1:03:13
  So stop, pause. Listen to the other side of the
• 1:03:17
  argument, the other other opinion, whether you know it's
• 1:03:21
  opposing to what your beliefs and are, and just take into
• 1:03:25
  consideration what the other person's saying.
• 1:03:29
  Now in regards to management, if their mouth is moving, they're
• 1:03:32
  lying. OK, so file, file, file.
• 1:03:39
  Here's another one in there. Can you file anonymously to not
• 1:03:43
  get backlash from fellow carriers?
• 1:03:47
  She just said no, you can't file anonymously, but technically a
• 1:03:57
  grievance should be private. I would say it the only the only
• 1:04:05
  way for it to be anonymous as if it affects more than one carrier
• 1:04:14
  where it asks for your your personal information you can put
• 1:04:18
  class action and send it into the Stewart.
• 1:04:28
  Yep, supposedly. And and that that's a problem we
• 1:04:33
  have in our craft, OK. I mean, you know, you're worried
• 1:04:37
  about backlash from fellow carriers who are working off the
• 1:04:40
  clock or or bending the rules and being the teacher's pet.
• 1:04:44
  And you know folks, this stuff has to stop and and you, you
• 1:04:50
  have to be strong enough person to turn around and go to the
• 1:04:53
  other carriers to say do you know, we all.
• 1:04:56
  Are part of the same craft. We're all part of the union.
• 1:04:59
  We're all brothers and sisters in this, so please stop it.
• 1:05:05
  Do what's good for everybody, not just for yourself.
• 1:05:08
  Look past yourselves, because that's that's the foundation of
• 1:05:12
  the union. We're looking out for the entire
• 1:05:14
  body, not just one or two people.
• 1:05:16
  Yes, we are protecting a individual in a certain
• 1:05:19
  situation, but it's for the good of the entire craft.
• 1:05:29
  On a side note. On a side note, I I've never
• 1:05:33
  seen men turn into such Willy nilly little gospelters until I
• 1:05:38
  came to those office. They are the worst.
• 1:05:45
  I'll let you handle this question, James.
• 1:05:47
  Are we getting on the paychecks this week?
• 1:05:52
  No. No, it'll be No, they're all
• 1:05:58
  going to be. They're all going to be zeros
• 1:05:59
  this week for everybody. Just kidding.
• 1:06:04
  Just kidding. I I have it.
• 1:06:06
  Other half was going to, the other half's going to get them
• 1:06:10
  this week and the ones that got last week aren't going to get
• 1:06:12
  them. That's what's probably going to
• 1:06:13
  happen. No, supposedly the system worked
• 1:06:16
  fine for updating it. I've been hearing some people
• 1:06:19
  are getting their paying their accounts already on some places
• 1:06:25
  and things like that they're showing a prepayment to their
• 1:06:27
  accounts. So, so far we're okay on that,
• 1:06:30
  that aspect because the same people said they didn't get
• 1:06:33
  their pay last time, but it'll probably still be a few more
• 1:06:38
  weeks before we get the paycheck that was lost.
• 1:06:41
  For those that did not get paid, supposedly we're supposed to get
• 1:06:48
  them. So we'll we'll see in a few
• 1:06:50
  weeks If everybody slowly gets their their paychecks that they
• 1:06:54
  missed or not. And remember, those of you that
• 1:06:57
  got their 65%, there may be a chance that you actually get a
• 1:07:01
  negative check. I would grieve it.
• 1:07:04
  Well, I would grieve it and consider it the cost of losing
• 1:07:09
  your check. All right, I got this one I just
• 1:07:13
  came through. Can you file a grievance against
• 1:07:15
  a clerk who is taking green cards off of certified letters
• 1:07:19
  calling RCA stupid? No, you can't file against the
• 1:07:25
  clerk. You have to file against
• 1:07:29
  management for allowing the clerk to do that.
• 1:07:33
  On top of that, if they are taking the green cards off of
• 1:07:37
  certified letters, I would call the Office of Inspector General.
• 1:07:41
  Well, we don't know if they're being signed and then, but yeah,
• 1:07:46
  I don't know if they're calling the RCA stupid.
• 1:07:49
  And why are they taking the green cards off of the certified
• 1:07:52
  letters? That's a return receipt.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah, they're doing it it. Has it has to be signed.
• 1:07:59
  Therefore, they are messing with mail, which is a felony.
• 1:08:05
  Yes, that. Needs to be brought up to
• 1:08:07
  management and gone from there and file a hostile work
• 1:08:12
  environment. Did management violate the
• 1:08:17
  contract MO use or joint statement AT4-40 when it allowed
• 1:08:23
  clerks Owens though to belittle the Rcas and file it as a class
• 1:08:28
  action? I love that word because it's
• 1:08:32
  every. It starts with that and there's
• 1:08:34
  4 letters. File, file.
• 1:08:43
  But yeah, you you deserve to work in a workplace that is free
• 1:08:48
  of harassment, where everybody is treated with dignity,
• 1:08:51
  fairness and respect. There are two joint statements
• 1:08:54
  about this, both of them related to facility dangerous
• 1:09:00
  conditions. We'll keep it clean to keep it
• 1:09:03
  from being pulled from multiple platforms that use plots to
• 1:09:07
  figure out whether you say specific keywords.
• 1:09:11
  But one of them was Royal Oak. So that gives you an idea as to
• 1:09:16
  why they wrote those joint statements.
• 1:09:19
  We've had issues in other offices recently where
• 1:09:23
  situations like that have occurred.
• 1:09:27
  We need to force them on the joint statement 4-40.
• 1:09:32
  We need to be treated with dignity, fairness and respect.
• 1:09:34
  That's another grievance you can file.
• 1:09:38
  Protect yourself. Protect your.
• 1:09:42
  Life. It's not a four letter word, but
• 1:09:46
  it I got a word for you. It starts with that, but ends
• 1:09:48
  with UCK. By the wrong word, Yeah, fire
• 1:09:54
  truck. Yep, it's.
• 1:09:58
  A little bit longer than 4 letters though.
• 1:10:01
  I said it was more than 4 letters.
• 1:10:03
  Yeah, that's true. I I have.
• 1:10:06
  I received this message on September 4th and I kind of want
• 1:10:11
  to share it because it's really awesome and I know we've been
• 1:10:14
  passionate, but I received this message.
• 1:10:17
  It just says I absolutely love the podcast with three
• 1:10:21
  exclamation marks. I'm not going to say where
• 1:10:24
  they're from and have learned so much and it helps that we are
• 1:10:28
  truly in this together. Keep it up and thanks.
• 1:10:33
  And I guess they're from the United States.
• 1:10:37
  They are absolutely no. And thank you for listening.
• 1:10:43
  Absolutely. Thank you.
• 1:10:44
  We appreciate every single one of you as as you all continue to
• 1:10:50
  grow and we're growing with you. That is definitely for sure.
• 1:10:56
  Yeah, I have one. Let me point this out real quick
• 1:11:00
  that you know even if. By some miracle, Bill May became
• 1:11:05
  President of of the NRLCAI, would still be on this podcast
• 1:11:12
  and I would still solicit questions, challenges, you know,
• 1:11:18
  and and the agonies of our carriers directly because of the
• 1:11:21
  fact that, you know, I can't get this information from the
• 1:11:24
  National Board, I can't get it from the state presidents or the
• 1:11:27
  DR's or a DR's if you don't listen to the people on the
• 1:11:31
  ground. How are you going to know what
• 1:11:34
  needs to be addressed? How?
• 1:11:36
  How are you going to know why people are walking off the job
• 1:11:39
  and leaving their badges and scanners and keys on the case?
• 1:11:43
  Or why people are so frustrated with the the union as a whole
• 1:11:48
  and and this, this, this is what they don't understand and this
• 1:11:52
  is what they don't grasp. That these are our lives, folks,
• 1:11:58
  I mean. You're you're not playing with
• 1:12:01
  just numbers like they do. Oh well, you know, if we had
• 1:12:04
  another 4000 members, we'd have 15,000,000 in our coffer.
• 1:12:07
  But by no, no, no. These are human beings.
• 1:12:11
  You're dealing with the emotions, the intellects, the
• 1:12:15
  sorrows, the joys and these people don't get it.
• 1:12:20
  No, because if I remember the State of the Union address for
• 1:12:23
  what I could sit through until Doctor Miracle took the stage,
• 1:12:27
  all it was was talking about money.
• 1:12:30
  It wasn't talking about the carriers in the union and what's
• 1:12:34
  going on, on those aspects. It was how much we put out for
• 1:12:38
  the flipping elevators and how much more work we need done on
• 1:12:42
  the office and doing this. It was all about the money.
• 1:12:46
  And I'm over it. I, you know, I, I get it.
• 1:12:51
  A building needs upkeep. But when you have the carriers
• 1:12:54
  that are suffering day in and day out at the hands of
• 1:12:58
  management. You know what?
• 1:13:01
  That money that you is not that important.
• 1:13:04
  What should be important is you caring about the carriers that
• 1:13:08
  are on the ground and getting that taken care of.
• 1:13:17
  I'm off my box now, Kristen. I don't remember.
• 1:13:19
  Do they do Finance Report? Yes.
• 1:13:23
  Tuesday or Wednesday? Okay.
• 1:13:25
  So there is a time and place in the program for them to discuss
• 1:13:29
  financials. Yeah, Okay.
• 1:13:33
  All right. I'm I'm stepping off the soapbox
• 1:13:36
  before I fall on the rabbit hole.
• 1:13:39
  Well, what doesn't? What doesn't help is when you
• 1:13:42
  have your president come to midstates and agree with the
• 1:13:49
  regional OPS manager that it's the carrier's fault that their
• 1:13:53
  evaluations went down. And then you have your new
• 1:13:57
  president reiterate that fact after he's elected president.
• 1:14:02
  That it's the carrier's fault for not going to the union
• 1:14:05
  website and getting the information and learning their
• 1:14:08
  own their own craft. Even though we have the M36 that
• 1:14:12
  says management is responsible for extreme changes in the
• 1:14:17
  workflow process, we needed to held them accountable to that.
• 1:14:23
  But our union leaders did not step up and say you guys need to
• 1:14:28
  train us on this. You need to set a time and a
• 1:14:31
  place for every carrier to be trained on this.
• 1:14:33
  Whether they are regular carriers, Rcas, Arcs, it doesn't
• 1:14:37
  matter. They all need to be trained on
• 1:14:39
  this system because you're putting them into a new system
• 1:14:42
  that they have to fill out and they have to work with, and it's
• 1:14:45
  a completely different process from the way they've been
• 1:14:47
  delivering it before. You need to step up and say
• 1:14:51
  until you train all of these, we can't make this live because
• 1:14:55
  they don't have the information to create an educated judgment
• 1:15:00
  on whether the system works or not.
• 1:15:03
  You didn't even test the system out because you haven't touched
• 1:15:07
  a scanner in 17 years or more. None of y'all did.
• 1:15:14
  But just sit there and you tell us it's our fault.
• 1:15:17
  It's the carrier's fault for not learning this system.
• 1:15:22
  I call BS on that. I call BS on the fact that you
• 1:15:26
  did not go out and tell every single carrier it's your
• 1:15:29
  stewards in the offices and tell every single carrier to do this.
• 1:15:33
  You had local stewards who knew more about the rec system than
• 1:15:36
  the local management. You had district representatives
• 1:15:42
  and UPS PS district representatives who knew less
• 1:15:47
  about the rec system than your local stewards did.
• 1:15:52
  But you wanna sit there and tell everybody it's it's the
• 1:15:55
  carrier's fault? Yeah.
• 1:15:58
  How is it the carrier's fault when management didn't follow
• 1:16:02
  postal rules and regulations? Tell me.
• 1:16:06
  How would? Yeah, exactly.
• 1:16:07
  The training falls on management.
• 1:16:09
  Yes, the union put out a bunch of tools.
• 1:16:13
  So I that's it. It's supposed to fall on
• 1:16:18
  management. And I remember when I
• 1:16:19
  transferred into my office and having come from a test to the
• 1:16:23
  office, so I knew it was coming. It was a matter of when and
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  anytime that I mentioned the system or this set and another
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  before the scanners had the update with the rural activity
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  scans on it. Anytime I mentioned anything
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  about it, I got looked at, even by my postmaster.
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  And everybody else in my office like I was a three headed
• 1:16:43
  monster. What the hell are you talking
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  about? Just that's my personality is
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  not. You know, we got a comment.
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  It would seem that since you guys are so knowledgeable and do
• 1:16:57
  the podcast that y'all wouldn't have many grievance problems in
• 1:17:00
  your offices. If that's the case, it shows we
• 1:17:03
  need stewards that care in every office to help keep management
• 1:17:06
  and check. Well, for me, I have a
• 1:17:11
  postmaster that believes that taking care of your carriers
• 1:17:15
  benefits the office, because the higher our evaluations are, the
• 1:17:19
  higher her office budget is. So it benefits her for us to
• 1:17:23
  benefit from this process. But there are a lot of
• 1:17:27
  management that doesn't bill your manager.
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  My manager is afraid of his boss and the supervisors are in fear
• 1:17:37
  of their jobs from the postmaster who's in fear of the
• 1:17:40
  boom. So therefore they all operate
• 1:17:43
  under the basis of fear and they do what they're told, even if
• 1:17:46
  they know it's against the contract.
• 1:17:49
  And if you explain that to them that you know, the more
• 1:17:51
  profitable the routes are, the more profitable the office is, a
• 1:17:55
  KA, your pay goes up. They're not even interested,
• 1:17:58
  They're just trying to hold on to their jobs.
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  So you know, I I'm envious and jealous of the people who have
• 1:18:05
  postmasters, supervisors who work with them and understand
• 1:18:08
  the craft. But I haven't seen that in 20
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  plus years. Yeah, it's.
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  Yeah, exactly. It's a lot of them that are in
• 1:18:20
  fear of their own jobs because of those above them.
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  I mean, that's pretty similar in my office at that aspect too, is
• 1:18:29
  that Boom runs the show. I mean right down to stupid
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  little. You know, calling an RCA and to
• 1:18:37
  do parcel assistance on a day after a holiday or something as
• 1:18:43
  little as my new is, Oh well, we have to get permission first.
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  Why? You know what happened to
• 1:18:50
  management managing their offices?
• 1:18:55
  They don't manage their offices anymore.
• 1:18:57
  They just do as they're directed and and push it on down the line
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  because they got poons looking at spreadsheets thinking that
• 1:19:05
  they control the world with those spreadsheets.
• 1:19:10
  I've never seen a spreadsheet drive an LLV yet.
• 1:19:17
  I ain't never seen a spreadsheet for management that's actually
• 1:19:20
  accurate. I've never seen a spreadsheet do
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  a scam. We can say that about some
• 1:19:31
  people too. I yeah you only have to do 6
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  only. They only worry about the six
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  though. Yeah, I mean you can.
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  You could miss an end load, or miss a start load, or
• 1:19:51
  accidentally hit end load instead of start load.
• 1:19:54
  And so then you end up with two end loads and they're like, hey,
• 1:19:58
  you're missing a start load. So you can do that anytime just
• 1:20:01
  as long as they even out really. That's what's important to you
• 1:20:05
  guys up up above is making sure all those six scans have a
• 1:20:10
  beginning and like start load and end load have a beginning
• 1:20:13
  and an ending and there's a clock in and a clock out and a
• 1:20:17
  return to unit and they depart to route.
• 1:20:20
  That's what's important to you guys.
• 1:20:23
  OK. And don't forget that it's only
• 1:20:27
  the rest of the scans are only important to them.
• 1:20:29
  When they say zero, that's when they matter to management.
• 1:20:32
  Anything above that and it's a problem.
• 1:20:35
  Right. Oh, yeah, we got that whole
• 1:20:36
  little spiel on. Well, don't be doing any extra
• 1:20:39
  scans. We're watching you, honey.
• 1:20:41
  My office has been good doing scans from the very beginning
• 1:20:44
  because I trained them and RCA. Trained them not once, but twice
• 1:20:52
  and still takes the time to answer questions from every
• 1:20:55
  single carrier when the question is asked, even though she
• 1:21:02
  doesn't have to. I don't have to anymore and and
• 1:21:08
  anytime there's a box holder and they still ask me is this box
• 1:21:13
  holder walking sequence letter flat?
• 1:21:15
  Or, you know, hey, don't forget to add these in.
• 1:21:18
  I'm still the one conducting everything in the damn office,
• 1:21:26
  and that's how it should be. US carriers should be supporting
• 1:21:29
  each other on this. It doesn't matter if you're a
• 1:21:32
  union Stewart or not. If you're the one with the
• 1:21:35
  knowledge, give it to your fellow carrier.
• 1:21:39
  Because guess what? You helped that carrier out.
• 1:21:42
  That's a more knowledgeable carrier and as we said time and
• 1:21:44
  time again, a knowledgeable carrier scares management.
• 1:21:49
  And if everybody in your office is not eligible, you're on
• 1:21:53
  management. Shouldn't be messing with you.
• 1:21:56
  Yeah, absolutely. And if management does, you're
• 1:21:59
  like Bill, you file, file, file until management finally stops.
• 1:22:08
  Yeah, I have another comment from one of my groups that says
• 1:22:13
  you rock, you say everything I say but no one listens LOL.
• 1:22:17
  And yes, I believe we are united in craft.
• 1:22:25
  It's the mole. Or at least the angle.
• 1:22:28
  Yes, we want to be united as a craft, The rural carrier craft
• 1:22:33
  we support our fellow brothers and sisters in the city.
• 1:22:36
  Craft the clerk, craft. The janitorial craft, VMF, the
• 1:22:40
  mail handlers, all of them. But the biggest one we are
• 1:22:45
  personally concerned about is our fellow rural carriers.
• 1:22:50
  The ones on the streets, the boots on the ground, the ones
• 1:22:52
  that scan every single day. The ones that have to deal with
• 1:22:55
  managerial harassment every single day, ones seeing the
• 1:22:59
  problems on the ground. That's what we care about.
• 1:23:03
  And we'll care about that until the till after we're retired.
• 1:23:07
  Do we support Craft mayonnaise? Now I'm a helmet for miracle.
• 1:23:18
  Work. Oh, Hellmann's no miracle.
• 1:23:24
  Work. I don't care why you need to
• 1:23:26
  change. Starving mostly do it deep.
• 1:23:31
  I did not understand a single word you said.
• 1:23:33
  Dude. Get the cat.
• 1:23:36
  Off your face. I'm outside so the cats don't
• 1:23:40
  hear me. I said where I live now, I got a
• 1:23:45
  I can't see that two level because they all support.
• 1:23:50
  So we we got a good question here posed there's any chance
• 1:23:54
  you would all ever do a podcast for new and existing stewards
• 1:23:58
  like Corey Walton does on from A to arbitration.
• 1:24:08
  We would rabbit hole, rabbit hole, we we would, but there's
• 1:24:13
  so much right now going on in the craft as a whole.
• 1:24:18
  That's more important that we get the information out for the
• 1:24:21
  whole craft, but that may be something we take up at a later
• 1:24:25
  time. But right now we want to focus
• 1:24:28
  on the current issues that everybody in the craft is facing
• 1:24:32
  because I believe that getting the craft more educated on this
• 1:24:38
  stuff is more important than getting into specifics like
• 1:24:45
  steward systems and things like that.
• 1:24:48
  Plus on top of that, our National Board does do their
• 1:24:50
  once monthly steward zoom, not training, training.
• 1:24:56
  So you do have that outlet as a steward, at least, but a lot of
• 1:25:03
  the stuff we talk about is stuff that stewards should know or
• 1:25:07
  need to learn, because these are issues that every carrier's
• 1:25:11
  facing and the stewards are going to have to deal with in a
• 1:25:14
  grievance. Form and just like we do this
• 1:25:17
  podcast at on our own time, our free will.
• 1:25:21
  I mean, as a steward, you know, I've taken calls on Sundays,
• 1:25:25
  Saturdays, on vacation away from home.
• 1:25:30
  You know, there's no hours to it in regards to, you know,
• 1:25:34
  protecting my office. So if you don't put it in your
• 1:25:38
  your time, your due diligence and and you know, read up and
• 1:25:41
  study, you're not going to improve just by us pointing you
• 1:25:45
  in the direction. You have to do some of it on
• 1:25:47
  your own and I know you won't get paid for it, but that's the
• 1:25:51
  price of being of service. There's a part time ADRI talked
• 1:25:58
  to that not only works his route, but does 100 hours a week
• 1:26:03
  of steward service, 100 hours a week on top of his regular
• 1:26:08
  route. So he's working 140 hours a week
• 1:26:12
  minimum just to take care of the craft.
• 1:26:16
  That's passion right there. That's passion for the craft.
• 1:26:20
  That's that's dedication. That is definitely dedication,
• 1:26:25
  caring for your fellow rural carriers right there.
• 1:26:28
  And I will use him as my talking point of how our craft should be
• 1:26:33
  handled. It's and it's his passion is the
• 1:26:38
  rural carriers. I have yet to see more people
• 1:26:43
  have a passion than that, even us on this podcast.
• 1:26:48
  No offense guys. I don't think we can compete
• 1:26:51
  with that. I say that.
• 1:26:56
  That's more than he should be because of the fact that he
• 1:27:06
  shouldn't have that much of A workload that he has 100 hours a
• 1:27:09
  week of stewards on. I I agree.
• 1:27:13
  I agree. But a lot of that is there
• 1:27:19
  aren't local stewards in his area.
• 1:27:21
  And so if you're in an office that doesn't have a local
• 1:27:24
  steward, Beth up, take the work off of the Adr's and the area
• 1:27:28
  stewards because those guys do. Some of those guys are working
• 1:27:32
  their butts off for the craft and they could use your help.
• 1:27:36
  All right, guys, we're going to wind this one down for tonight.
• 1:27:40
  Yep, it's already just past 9:00 Eastern Time.
• 1:27:44
  So Josh, last words, thoughts for the evening?
• 1:27:49
  Count over. Everyone can exhale now.
• 1:27:53
  It'll probably be a minimum of two weeks out what the results
• 1:27:59
  are and three left, right. Don't get overwhelmed.
• 1:28:06
  If you need, take a step back. Take a deep breath.
• 1:28:09
  Step back in. Have a good week.
• 1:28:12
  Catch you next time. James, your last final words for
• 1:28:18
  this evening. We have a very, very passionate
• 1:28:23
  group of people here and I'm sure it shows.
• 1:28:29
  And we hope that this passion that we have reflects in how you
• 1:28:34
  approach your job as a rural carrier, as you approach your
• 1:28:37
  craft, and if you have the passion to take care of the
• 1:28:42
  craft, please step up. Help your fellow carriers.
• 1:28:46
  If you feel the the urge to run for local steward, go for it.
• 1:28:52
  Knowledgeable carriers are what we need in this craft and you
• 1:28:56
  guys listening to us is the start of that.
• 1:28:59
  And then talking with your designated union Rep and finding
• 1:29:03
  out what the union says on these things and what the union
• 1:29:07
  policies and procedures are for this.
• 1:29:10
  Talk with them. Get information.
• 1:29:13
  Information is your best friend. So I hope you guys all have a
• 1:29:17
  good week out there. Don't get over stressed.
• 1:29:21
  If you start feeling overheated, take a breather, take a break
• 1:29:24
  because it's still warm out there in a lot of places.
• 1:29:28
  The Hurricane Lee is going to pass off the coast so far, at
• 1:29:32
  least according to forecast. So if you're on the coastal
• 1:29:35
  water areas, be aware of the high waves that may occur and
• 1:29:41
  we'll see you guys next week. OK, Bill.
• 1:29:49
  Oh. Well, the the stressful part of
• 1:29:53
  the minimail survey is over. Now the anticipation begins
• 1:29:56
  waiting to find out what your valuations are going to be.
• 1:29:59
  Contrary to James, I believe we're going to have minimal
• 1:30:03
  influence in regards to the 66% who lost last time.
• 1:30:08
  The next big one I I believe will be in in 2024 when the
• 1:30:13
  numbers from the FSS dissolving the FSS.
• 1:30:17
  Comes off of our yearly average. So that one I think is going to
• 1:30:22
  be really fun because that'll affect my office and we went up
• 1:30:28
  substantially when we got rid of FSS.
• 1:30:30
  So I expect the reoccurring theme to be an appropriate drop
• 1:30:36
  to the FSS. What do you call it?
• 1:30:40
  Dissolution of it the FSS. Don't sign the slippers.
• 1:30:44
  If you have anything that you're going to dispute you know don't.
• 1:30:48
  Don't even write on them. This is my personal opinion.
• 1:30:52
  I'm not going to a select high or low option based on an
• 1:30:56
  evaluation. I don't know what it is, and I'm
• 1:31:01
  not going to cooperate with management in any such fashion
• 1:31:04
  until they can prove all the numbers that they're posting on
• 1:31:07
  the mini Mail survey. It it's ridiculous to to sign
• 1:31:12
  anything that you cannot prove and they cannot prove.
• 1:31:16
  So everybody just go out and you know, do the jobs the way you're
• 1:31:20
  supposed to, the way you have been doing them, doing
• 1:31:23
  correctly, doing to the best of your ability.
• 1:31:25
  Be safe out there and every day at the end of the shift, go home
• 1:31:29
  to your loved ones because you're the most important
• 1:31:32
  delivery of the day. Absolutely.
• 1:31:37
  Thank you guys. Yeah, everybody be safe out
• 1:31:41
  there this week. I'm just running 1 route right
• 1:31:45
  now. Unless I have to throw my aux
• 1:31:47
  route in there six days a week, nothing much is going to change
• 1:31:52
  at this point for me. I'm holding down the route that
• 1:31:55
  I'll eventually take over. Just got to wait for it to come
• 1:31:58
  up, forbid. But yeah, everybody stay safe
• 1:32:02
  out there this week. Don't forget file, file, file
• 1:32:06
  when necessary. And take care of each other and
• 1:32:10
  we'll see you back next week.