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By Order of the Faithfuls: The Bad Boy of the Ballroom w/ Maks Chmerkovskiy · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome into another episode of By Order of the Faithfuls.
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Speaker 1: I'm Wills Adams. I'm alongside both Tamra and Dolores. I
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Speaker 1: feel like it's been a while since we've all been
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Speaker 1: in the show.
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Speaker 2: I know, right, I know, well, here we are. Last
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Speaker 2: time we missed you. I missed it too. I've been
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Speaker 2: so busy. But now my slow, my slow season's coming up.
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Speaker 2: You know, after Bravo Con almost of all our episodes
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Speaker 2: have aired. Bravo CON's behind me. I get to relax.
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Speaker 3: You need that.
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Speaker 2: I get to relax for a little bit and just
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Speaker 2: do my normal housewife stuff.
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Speaker 1: You guys get paid a ton of money for Bravocon.
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Speaker 1: I know that might be a touchy question, but I
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Speaker 1: want to know.
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Speaker 2: We get paid. I wouldn't say it's a ton of money. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: for how many days we're there and all we do?
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Speaker 1: Can you they know I don't want to do it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't air.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to be on the TV show anymore?
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Speaker 3: Did they? I know.
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Speaker 2: I know that in the past people have complained and
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Speaker 2: and try to negotiate and things like that, but I
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Speaker 2: don't think it works. It's either everyone to go, you
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Speaker 2: don't want to say I mean everyone get paid the
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Speaker 2: same or no everyone From what I know, yes, everyone
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Speaker 2: gets paid the same. It is a big deal. Like,
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Speaker 2: think about all the talent they have to fly in,
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Speaker 2: they have to put in hotels, they pay it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: of course they make a ton of money too, but
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Speaker 2: it's fun. I think it's for me. I look at
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Speaker 2: it as you know, giving back to the fans and
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Speaker 2: meeting them and doing all those things that make our
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Speaker 2: shows so popular. So but also we get activations like
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Speaker 2: I'm doing one with Lexus, so there's more money to
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Speaker 2: be made as well.
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Speaker 1: That's cool. It's got to be a little scary though,
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Speaker 1: because I imagine if you're that big of a fan of
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Speaker 1: the Bravo world and you're willing to go to Vegas
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Speaker 1: for it, like I feel like you could come across
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Speaker 1: some just some weird peeps. Yep, Well you said it right.
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Speaker 1: It's fifteen hundred dollars a ticket for VIP, Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: it's sells out in sixty seconds the whole show. Like that,
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Speaker 1: We're doing this Bachelor cruise thing next year.
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Speaker 2: Where careful with those cruises. I've been hearing a lot
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Speaker 2: of things about that.
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Speaker 1: I know I saw Johnny Banana's thing was fake, right,
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Speaker 1: his big I was.
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Speaker 2: On one got canceled, Florish, you were on one that
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Speaker 2: got canceled. Like, I don't know. After I saw Johnny Bananas,
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not I agreed to do that ever again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm just like, who's gonna You're gonna hang
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Speaker 1: out with me on a boat for three days? Like,
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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? Like this seems like the start of
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Speaker 1: like a murder mystery to me, you know, right, all right, Well,
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Speaker 1: I'm excited about today's episode. We're gonna have one of
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Speaker 1: the stars of season two of the Traders. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: have Max Schmerkowski on the show. Obviously very well now
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Speaker 1: internationally renowned ballroom dance champion, choreographer and seventeen time Dancing
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Speaker 1: with the Stars pro who quickly became one of America's
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Speaker 1: most beloved cast members on the hit series. The Ukrainian
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Speaker 1: American dancer, often referred to as a bad boy in
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Speaker 1: the ballroom, one of the show's coveted mirror Ball Trophy
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Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen. Max has also appeared in a
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Speaker 1: number of hit television shows, including The One That We
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Speaker 1: like to talk about the traders. Max, Welcome to the show,
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Speaker 1: my man, Hello, Helloo.
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Speaker 2: There he is the bad boy of the ballroom.
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Speaker 3: Whatever that means.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what does it mean?
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Speaker 2: I was getting bad boy of the ballroom.
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Speaker 3: It's provocative, Temera.
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Speaker 1: You know me, I know you, I know you am
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Speaker 1: I bad?
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're actually the kindest person.
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Speaker 3: Don't say that on record, please, you're gonna you're gonna
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Speaker 3: give my image away.
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Speaker 2: And he's kind, he's sweet's he's a father and very intelligent.
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Speaker 3: There you go. There you go again with my secrets.
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Speaker 3: Don't say that.
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Speaker 1: I know, I know. How are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I'm doing great. We haven't slept in
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Speaker 3: three days. But otherwise it's awesome.
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Speaker 2: Why kids?
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Speaker 1: Uh?
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Speaker 3: The middle one is not well and he's the type
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Speaker 3: that's like that's taking the most from me. The other
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Speaker 3: through a Mopeita and my kind when I'm sick, I
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Speaker 3: am the worst person to cater to. I'm annoying, you know,
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Speaker 3: like typical men. So he's that one. So yeah, well,
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Speaker 3: I mean hopefully they all do. But so yeah, I'm
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Speaker 3: with you, guys.
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Speaker 2: Do you think okay? Any more kids coming soon?
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Speaker 1: Every time I talked to you.
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Speaker 2: You're another one's on the way.
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Speaker 3: No, why would you wish that on us? This is
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Speaker 3: just crazy. Look, they're amazing, They're cute, they're they're amazing,
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Speaker 3: and you know, and I'm living every day like you know,
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Speaker 3: be present all these funny you know things and phrases
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Speaker 3: that we keep hearing the same, like be present and
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Speaker 3: all that stuff. And I'm trying to hone in on
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Speaker 3: this and be like, look this two shell pass both
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Speaker 3: the positive and the negative, right, and so this too
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Speaker 3: shell pass applies to the negatives, Well, then you got
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Speaker 3: to hold on to the positive as well. And so
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Speaker 3: I'm enjoying this, you know, being underslapped and I'm exhausted.
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Speaker 3: I'm still in the gym. I just you know, because
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Speaker 3: I have a project and Peter is on it. She
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Speaker 3: has a you know, she got in the middle of
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Speaker 3: us not sleeping. She got an ear infection, so she
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Speaker 3: was in an emergency room and all the night before
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Speaker 3: and so it's like life is lifing on full cylinders,
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Speaker 3: but you have to embrace it. Otherwise, what are we doing,
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Speaker 3: you know, and.
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Speaker 2: What new projects? What new projects you have going on?
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Speaker 2: Can you share it?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm filming a couple of things this year.
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Speaker 3: I've already filmed a feature and I'm flying out to
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Speaker 3: do another one, and there's potentially another one coming up.
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Speaker 3: So like quietly, I try to, you know, not wave
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Speaker 3: around thoughts and wishes, but you know me by now,
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Speaker 3: I try to, like, here's a brick of the fire
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Speaker 3: foundation that I laid, and I want to show it
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Speaker 3: to you, right so when I'm ready, I think it'll
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Speaker 3: be a surprising revelation that that's what I've been doing.
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Speaker 3: This too, is for the projects. So usually clean face,
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Speaker 3: you know, these two little little gray patches. That's my
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Speaker 3: only thing. The rest, I like the soul. I got
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Speaker 3: this since the last time you saw me, So wow,
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Speaker 3: we got we got.
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Speaker 2: Are you doing like a Western or something? Are you
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Speaker 2: an undercover book?
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Speaker 3: I'm going to forest. It's script No, no, no, no, I'm fully scripted. Uh.
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Speaker 3: Feature moves and there you know, there's a there's a
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Speaker 3: twist to the latest project that's coming up that's extremely
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Speaker 3: exciting as far as the new wage way of producing
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Speaker 3: feature films and where this is going and being you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm finally at the at the forefront of like some
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Speaker 3: technological moves that entertainment industry is making. So I'm excited
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Speaker 3: to be a part of this stuff. Again, I'm not
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Speaker 3: trying to be super mysterious here, it's not. It's not
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Speaker 3: my thing to tell. So as soon as I'm ready
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Speaker 3: to express it, I'm so excited to share all these.
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Speaker 1: Things we want to talk to you about. You know,
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Speaker 1: the the connection between Traders and with Dancing with the Stars.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's very well known and documented
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Speaker 1: that being on Dancing with the Stars is extremely competitive,
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Speaker 1: but then also in Traders it is as well. I'm
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Speaker 1: wondering what your thoughts are of what show is more.
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Speaker 3: Competitive Dancing with the Stars?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not even a question, zero questions.
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Speaker 3: And and Tembra know, so we were in you know,
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Speaker 3: my this my back to my season Emmy winning and
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Speaker 3: fantastic show and incredible presentation of basically Mafia, right, but
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Speaker 3: on on some kind of crack if we talk about
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Speaker 3: this you know, Traders and host it and you know
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Speaker 3: filmed and it was all beautiful and gorgeous and all that,
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Speaker 3: and one of the elements of the show that I
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Speaker 3: was really intrigued about is the physicality. Right, So you know,
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Speaker 3: in between all those discussions, those were also fun, right,
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Speaker 3: based on some things that happened during the day. We
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Speaker 3: had some challenges and all that well, my sort of
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Speaker 3: you know, abrupt my and you can see it on
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Speaker 3: my face and in my mood and in my you know,
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Speaker 3: when I kind of lost not lost interest in the show,
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Speaker 3: but I lost interest in what I thought the show was.
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Speaker 3: I felt like I would stand out in terms in
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Speaker 3: physical challenges and I would bring you know. So my
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Speaker 3: strategy was, Okay, you are not the you know, you're faithful,
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Speaker 3: so there isn't a chance to you know, I already
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Speaker 3: hated that position, being a sitting dock. It doesn't play
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Speaker 3: well with my personality at all. But at the same time,
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Speaker 3: there's no strategy here. His strategy here is just hide
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Speaker 3: and and sort of don't get shot, right, And I
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Speaker 3: hate that. I hate that feeling. I want to be
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Speaker 3: up in front. So I felt like, you know, that
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Speaker 3: would be my chance to be that physical sort of person,
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Speaker 3: you know in those challenges, right, and then I sucked
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Speaker 3: and won and then anyway, but the one challenge that
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Speaker 3: took it out of me all that sort of like
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Speaker 3: excitement about the show is when we were running and
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Speaker 3: it was three teams and we were running. We had
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Speaker 3: to solve some riddles, open the box, keep running, and
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Speaker 3: it was timed, which every team gets there first, it
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Speaker 3: has more time to search for these things and scarecrows whatever.
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Speaker 3: We run up to the first challenge, we did the
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Speaker 3: thing and we just kept running and they're like, hold
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Speaker 3: on a second. The production was like, wait, you guys
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Speaker 3: have to have more dialogue. I'm done. This is no
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Speaker 3: longer challenge. It's not tim it's not about who gets
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Speaker 3: there first. And at that point I was like, oh, okay, cool.
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Speaker 3: So if you're going back to the question about what's
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Speaker 3: more competitive, there's no doubt about how Dense with the
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Speaker 3: Stars sucks you in and it doesn't let go, and
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Speaker 3: everything is so hard and so challenging and so competitive,
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Speaker 3: and then you get into like, you know, the weeks later,
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Speaker 3: whoever's left standing. This is like, you know, everything that's
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Speaker 3: happening right now on the show is so hyper hyper hyper,
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Speaker 3: Whereas I just don't feel that that's the same project
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Speaker 3: with Traders. But when you ask the question, you know,
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Speaker 3: I mean the casting director alone, I think it's a
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Speaker 3: huge connection between both shows. It's you know, Ms Dinacat,
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Speaker 3: she's doing a fantastic job casting award winning productions, and
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Speaker 3: I think she's She's the main you know through line
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Speaker 3: between the two.
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Speaker 2: Now you speaking of Dance with the Stars, it's Aaron
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Speaker 2: right now. Do you have a prediction of who you
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Speaker 2: think is going to win?
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Speaker 3: Do I not? You do?
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Speaker 1: I know you do? Who is it?
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Speaker 3: No? I mean I I look, it depends on Yes,
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Speaker 3: here's my prediction. I think I think this is Robert's
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Speaker 3: season to lose. And I'm saying it that from a
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Speaker 3: standpoint of like looking at this is also our twentieth
11:05
Speaker 3: birthday anniversary, you know, so then we start has been
11:08
Speaker 3: around for two decades. You're talking about thirty four seasons,
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Speaker 3: so many winners, so many plots, so many stories. I'm
11:15
Speaker 3: sure there's someone out there who's collecting all that data,
11:19
Speaker 3: inserting into some kind of AI engine. It gives you
11:21
Speaker 3: the predictability factor. Right, I'm not the guy, but I'm here.
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Speaker 3: You go if somebody of your listeners is the guy,
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Speaker 3: it's very easy. But in my opinion, that data goes
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Speaker 3: by like it's if it's a male and a female
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Speaker 3: celebrities who are high level dancers, the you know it's
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Speaker 3: going to go to a male I think if it's
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Speaker 3: a male and a female celebrities for a left standing
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Speaker 3: and you know, and the male celebrity has the heart,
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Speaker 3: but a female celebrity has the skill, I think it's
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Speaker 3: going to go to a male you know what I mean, Like,
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Speaker 3: it's not gonna be it's not going to be the
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Speaker 3: best dancer wins. I think it's gonna be the best
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Speaker 3: dancer according to who the audience like the most. And
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Speaker 3: that's again do.
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Speaker 1: You think that is because a lot of the audience
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Speaker 1: is female and they are, you know, kind of smitten
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Speaker 1: with Robert.
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Speaker 3: Why not, you know? And then there were smitten with Dylan,
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Speaker 3: and so Dylan was that heart throb for all those women.
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Speaker 3: They're like, oh my god, he took his shirt off
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Speaker 3: and then and then Robert took his shirt off and
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Speaker 3: he completely you know, not with the ebbs or with
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Speaker 3: the shirt. Who are again you have same abs? I
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Speaker 3: got the same abs, ebbs and ebbs and ebbs. Now
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Speaker 3: ebbs are canceled out right, So if you don't have
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Speaker 3: the ebbs, Dylan, you have to stand up to the
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Speaker 3: level of showmanship and the energy that Robert breathed. And
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Speaker 3: it's not even the same. So we can talk about.
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Speaker 3: Robert is like the favorite amongst men outside of Andy.
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Speaker 3: Who is your is your feels and soul and heart
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Speaker 3: doesn't dance, you know, I've also again been privy to
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Speaker 3: partnerships where my celebrity was not a dancer, but we
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Speaker 3: had that we were the heart right, so we went
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Speaker 3: all the way, whereas a lot of amazing dances got eliminated.
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Speaker 3: So I think, you know, this season, unlike any other season,
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Speaker 3: everybody can dance. Everybody who's left can dance except Andy.
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Speaker 3: But Andy is the heart and soul, and I think
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Speaker 3: that Alex and Val are poised to win by coming
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Speaker 3: up in the finish line and just being the strongest
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Speaker 3: into the end. Robert has to maintain his thing right
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Speaker 3: now for the next three weeks on one hundred and
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Speaker 3: ten percent. If he slips to one hundred and nine percent,
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Speaker 3: we're going to see it and it's going to look
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Speaker 3: like he's losing steam. So that's a little bit of
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Speaker 3: a negative. Dylan has no chance unless he stands up
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Speaker 3: and does something crazy. And then again, don't forget there's
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Speaker 3: also Jordan Childs, who has incredible amount of followers who
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Speaker 3: no one really talks about as a front runner, but
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Speaker 3: she is the Olympic gymnast that we've seen have incredible
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Speaker 3: amount of success. I would say this, and the last
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Speaker 3: thing I'll say, starting tomorrow, what is it tomorrow? Right?
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Speaker 3: Tomorrow show? The elimination is going to be shocking, and
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Speaker 3: then it's going to be shocking shocking again because there's
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Speaker 3: no one left who you're not going to be shocked about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I went to go watch Phedra who was
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Speaker 2: on Traders with both me and Max.
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Speaker 1: And you were there.
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Speaker 2: Do you go often to watch?
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Speaker 3: We tried in the beginning of the season and then
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Speaker 3: again Life Gotten Away and you know, we've missed couple
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Speaker 3: of shows because we were weren't in town. We definitely
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Speaker 3: coming tomorrow because it's our twentieth a diversity they're bringing.
14:36
Speaker 3: I think something like four hundred of us got an
14:38
Speaker 3: email about coming back this one episode, so it'll be
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Speaker 3: a room full of you know, past dancing with the Stars.
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Speaker 2: Are you going to dance?
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Speaker 3: No? This they have they have a dance by the
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Speaker 3: all the pros who were the first who are on
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Speaker 3: the first season, that first inaugural six sixth episode pilot
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Speaker 3: season I was not a part of that started season two,
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Speaker 3: but those guys are coming back.
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Speaker 2: I heard to the Grapevine you really like the new
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Speaker 2: pro to answer.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a huge fan, are you. It's taken completely
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Speaker 3: out of context.
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Speaker 2: Then I was wondering what.
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Speaker 3: The context here is? Very simple, not taken out of context.
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Speaker 3: Let me rephrase that. I speak with a lot of
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Speaker 3: thoughts in my head, you know, and and and and
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Speaker 3: and I also speak to a room and in a
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Speaker 3: room and with the people and all that. I'm not
15:32
Speaker 3: speaking to general public. But if I have to say
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Speaker 3: to general public, it's it's it has nothing to do
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Speaker 3: with the person. You know. My commentary had nothing to
15:41
Speaker 3: do with the person. Hence the apology afterwards, because you
15:44
Speaker 3: know what, yes, in it, there isn't anything to change, right,
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Speaker 3: So my criticism was not out of left field. It
15:54
Speaker 3: was just unexpected because because I'm not an analyst on
15:59
Speaker 3: the on ESPN talking about basketball players, you know what,
16:03
Speaker 3: I'm saying that that's my job. Somebody pays me to
16:05
Speaker 3: do that. Now I'm just a professional with an opinion,
16:09
Speaker 3: and nowadays everybody has a podcast, and so I think
16:12
Speaker 3: that there's got to be a disclaimer. Hey, I'm about
16:15
Speaker 3: to say some stuff, and here's the disclaimer, right, and
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Speaker 3: I didn't do that, and therefore it kind of landed off.
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Speaker 2: What wasn't your opinion more like he wasn't trained in ballroom?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but my opinion was about the fact that you
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Speaker 3: have a job. And again, I don't want to get
16:31
Speaker 3: in trouble here, here's a disclaimer that the conversation and
16:35
Speaker 3: the opinion had nothing to do with the person. And yeah,
16:39
Speaker 3: it's probably a little bit of knock on our guesting
16:43
Speaker 3: director friend, but it's not really also her call personally
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Speaker 3: by herself. But the point is you have a job that,
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Speaker 3: over the last twenty years has been the best, most
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Speaker 3: exclusive job for a ballroom dancer, you know, period. I
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Speaker 3: mean from the money standpoint, to exposure obviously, to opportunities
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Speaker 3: after in life, so on and so forth. Dancing with
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Speaker 3: the stars for us, the like us, people that wouldn't
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Speaker 3: have had this interduction. Had it not been for that project,
17:15
Speaker 3: you would never know me. There would be a very
17:18
Speaker 3: little chance that we would meet because my ballroom industry
17:21
Speaker 3: was nothing to do with mainstream. It was very you know,
17:24
Speaker 3: it's like curling. We don't know anybody curling until Olympics come, right,
17:29
Speaker 3: you would never hear of us, And so I protect
17:33
Speaker 3: that so hard because a lot of kids over the
17:36
Speaker 3: last twenty years had stayed with some ballroom, had continued
17:39
Speaker 3: in that in those footsteps, with these thoughts and with
17:42
Speaker 3: these sort of like goals in mind. And so I'm
17:44
Speaker 3: just like, I'm the guy that just if there are
17:46
Speaker 3: only five spots for a male ballroom dancer available in
17:52
Speaker 3: this country, why not get a male ballroom dancer who
17:57
Speaker 3: is also fantastic in other stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, after saying what you said about Traders not
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Speaker 2: being very competitive, would you ever go back the Traders? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean, honestly, I think I would have
18:21
Speaker 3: loved the redo. I'm also, again, like a lot of life,
18:25
Speaker 3: I have to admit I wasn't so in it like
18:29
Speaker 3: I know Mark, for example, Mark Ballast he did the
18:31
Speaker 3: next season. I haven't seen him on it. I don't
18:34
Speaker 3: know you know his outcome, but we spoke about some
18:36
Speaker 3: of this, not he didn't reveal anything to me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I saw a person who knew the show, watched the
18:45
Speaker 3: show previously, knew every nuance about it, he NBC loved
18:51
Speaker 3: watching it as a project, and then he got he
18:53
Speaker 3: saw me. I was like, oh my god. And then
18:56
Speaker 3: he gets a call and he's like, dream come true. Right,
18:58
Speaker 3: I've never seen Traders until I was on it. You know,
19:02
Speaker 3: I was on the in Napa, putting on my show.
19:05
Speaker 3: We just had a baby. Did a lot of life happened?
19:09
Speaker 3: You remember, I was trying to make phone calls when
19:13
Speaker 3: it was I'm not allowed allowed it just had a baby.
19:16
Speaker 3: I'm like, you got to call the wife. I'm not
19:18
Speaker 3: might not have a wife when I come back. So
19:20
Speaker 3: you know, it was all that. So I wasn't that guy.
19:22
Speaker 3: I want to if I were to come back and
19:24
Speaker 3: do it again, it would be now as someone who
19:27
Speaker 3: knows exactly what the show is, you know, and exactly
19:29
Speaker 3: how to try and play it.
19:31
Speaker 2: I feel the same way now. Dolores and Wells were
19:34
Speaker 2: both on season three, which we're recappying right now.
19:39
Speaker 3: Delores won, oh, congratulations, should say you should do it
19:44
Speaker 3: again because you missed half of it, not I know,
19:46
Speaker 3: because I was sick. You were so sick. We missed you.
19:48
Speaker 3: We thought you would you know, I don't even know
19:51
Speaker 3: how you continued.
19:51
Speaker 2: But going I know it was really difficult. But going back,
19:54
Speaker 2: you you know, experience what we experienced a little that
19:57
Speaker 2: we did. And Wells because well got cooked off pretty
20:00
Speaker 2: early too. Going back, you know so much more, you
20:05
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you would be more confident
20:07
Speaker 2: in what you're doing.
20:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I wanted to ask you because
20:10
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, hindsight's twenty twenty looking back
20:13
Speaker 1: on the season, What would you have done differently to
20:17
Speaker 1: have gotten yourself further on in the game or would
20:20
Speaker 1: you not have changed anything.
20:21
Speaker 3: My strategy, Well, I would definitely stay away from Deontay.
20:24
Speaker 3: We became best friends immediately. The reason why I left
20:28
Speaker 3: is because he lost his mind and I was the
20:30
Speaker 3: first only person in front of his face and he's like,
20:33
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't know what to say. I
20:34
Speaker 3: have nothing, I didn't prepare, but that guy, I'm like,
20:37
Speaker 3: wait what?
20:38
Speaker 2: And he was so convincing.
20:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, he felt like he felt like because there was
20:45
Speaker 3: such a you know, friendly connection, you know, and we
20:50
Speaker 3: had moments off camera that I'm not going to talk about,
20:55
Speaker 3: but I stand up right in front of him, and
20:58
Speaker 3: I feel like right after that, we went to the
21:01
Speaker 3: round table and he was in sort of distress and
21:05
Speaker 3: didn't really know how to end it. And if you
21:07
Speaker 3: remember Tamor, he was already kind of halfway out and
21:10
Speaker 3: he's like, I don't want I don't want to be here. Yeah,
21:12
Speaker 3: and then it went straight into it and I was
21:15
Speaker 3: the only person in his face like, hey, bro, you're good.
21:19
Speaker 3: We'll find chilling, like come down whatever. You know. I
21:22
Speaker 3: wish I wasn't now because if I wasn't, he wouldn't
21:25
Speaker 3: nobody to pick on. Yeah.
21:27
Speaker 2: But ultimately I think he left right after you, right
21:30
Speaker 2: like the next.
21:30
Speaker 3: Time, just because he realized. I think he came to
21:33
Speaker 3: his senses and was like, wait, that was so stupid.
21:36
Speaker 3: And also this sounded ridiculous, like I you asked me, well,
21:40
Speaker 3: whatever would have done different? I would have I would
21:44
Speaker 3: have I would have been more vocal in groups. There
21:48
Speaker 3: were few groups of people that I did not interact with.
21:51
Speaker 3: There were were, you know, so I didn't have I
21:54
Speaker 3: didn't have any any kind of like I was trying
21:58
Speaker 3: to sort of play the yield in the wrong way.
22:01
Speaker 3: I was trying to be unattached, Like everybody knows that
22:05
Speaker 3: I'm kind of part of everybody, right, and so you
22:07
Speaker 3: have faithful, you have you know, you have the the traders, right,
22:11
Speaker 3: and so everybody would kind of like feel good about Max,
22:14
Speaker 3: and I felt like that was my you know I
22:17
Speaker 3: didn't get to do it, but also I wasn't. I
22:19
Speaker 3: was sure one hundred percent nobody's going to point a
22:21
Speaker 3: finger at me.
22:23
Speaker 2: You were quiet in the very beginning. You were pretty
22:25
Speaker 2: quiet and to yourself.
22:27
Speaker 1: There was a lot of scenes and this might have
22:29
Speaker 1: been blown out of proportion or edited in a way
22:31
Speaker 1: that wasn't real. But there's a lot of times when
22:33
Speaker 1: you like walk into a room and then be like,
22:35
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk.
22:35
Speaker 3: To you guys because I'm walking into some chaotic, you know,
22:39
Speaker 3: kitchen discussion, and I'm like, I I'm out. I don't
22:43
Speaker 3: want to be a part of this.
22:45
Speaker 1: Trauma.
22:46
Speaker 3: Trauma I found. I found the cane. I found the cane.
22:49
Speaker 3: I was walking around the cat I was like, I'm
22:51
Speaker 3: in the castle, I got a cane, I'm gonna suit.
22:53
Speaker 3: I'm chilling.
22:54
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You should have done more
22:58
Speaker 2: of that, you know how.
23:00
Speaker 3: A lot of that They didn't show me any of that.
23:02
Speaker 2: I know they didn't show any of it. But Vader's
23:04
Speaker 2: whole approach was just being the sweet Southern bell and
23:07
Speaker 2: praying on people. You should have been dancing with people,
23:10
Speaker 2: and I don't know that's it.
23:13
Speaker 3: That's I would have I would have I would have
23:14
Speaker 3: been a little more of that. Yeah, I felt like
23:16
Speaker 3: I had a good strategy. Like I said, there was
23:19
Speaker 3: a I think that my elimination or it was deontay
23:23
Speaker 3: led and it was just a hiccup. It's like it's
23:25
Speaker 3: a glitch in the matrix. This wasn't meant to be
23:28
Speaker 3: it because it wasn't legitimate discussion either, not legitimate, but
23:31
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like it was, it came
23:32
Speaker 3: out of left field. Nobody was and once he pointed
23:36
Speaker 3: me and one more person did, now I became the majority.
23:39
Speaker 3: And Wills and you know the lords. You know that
23:42
Speaker 3: by now, right when, especially in the beginning of the season,
23:45
Speaker 3: when the table's like there's no yet, kind of like
23:48
Speaker 3: we don't really know each other that much, we don't
23:50
Speaker 3: know who's lying who's not. I was already homies with
23:53
Speaker 3: Phedra and Tamra and a couple other people, so they
23:56
Speaker 3: weren't the ones to kind of like point at me
23:58
Speaker 3: and keep it more I think tam But by by
24:01
Speaker 3: the time it came to camera, I was just I
24:03
Speaker 3: was a majority. Your majority named right, so because once
24:07
Speaker 3: it's him and it's her, but.
24:10
Speaker 2: He was so convincing in his speech. I've never seen
24:13
Speaker 2: anybody on Traders and he didn't.
24:15
Speaker 3: Say just spoke about me. Did you notice that?
24:19
Speaker 2: I know it was really bizarre now that you mentioned that. Yeah, yeah,
24:23
Speaker 2: so you would come back as a trader.
24:25
Speaker 3: You're like, I'll come back as a trader, as a trader,
24:29
Speaker 3: I think at this but like, yes, beginning in the beginning,
24:32
Speaker 3: when I when I got out, I was like, damn it,
24:34
Speaker 3: really wanted to be a trader. At this point, I
24:36
Speaker 3: would come back as anything, you know, because now I know, Okay,
24:40
Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. Yeah, there's a there's
24:43
Speaker 3: a way through and and I get it. But even
24:46
Speaker 3: if I watched the show religiously, I wouldn't have known.
24:48
Speaker 2: No, you don't know until you go there. I think
24:51
Speaker 2: you guys can all agree on that. And there was
24:52
Speaker 2: only one season before us, so it was really kind
24:55
Speaker 2: of new and going in like I thought I had
24:58
Speaker 2: it figured out. I did not have any of it
25:00
Speaker 2: figured out.
25:01
Speaker 3: No, yeah, but but but but Faedra did, and she
25:04
Speaker 3: did what a fantastic work. How the Lord the Laurus
25:09
Speaker 3: looks like like that, Like she probably had that type
25:12
Speaker 3: of experience like coming in old cut and smiley and
25:14
Speaker 3: quiet and don't say a lot and then bam.
25:17
Speaker 1: No, Max, I'm just a fan.
25:19
Speaker 2: I've never been so quiet in my life.
25:24
Speaker 1: Hey, Max, we want to be respectful of your time
25:26
Speaker 1: and also the shoulder. Right now, last question, of all
25:31
Speaker 1: the professional dancers on Dancing with the Stars, who do
25:35
Speaker 1: you think would be the best Trader and who would
25:39
Speaker 1: be really good at playing the game Traders?
25:43
Speaker 3: Well, again, I don't know what Mark did on the show. Again,
25:46
Speaker 3: I think that's the lowest season, right, was Mark ballast
25:48
Speaker 3: with you?
25:49
Speaker 1: No?
25:50
Speaker 3: No, I don't know again.
25:53
Speaker 2: On January?
25:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know. I think he might have
25:58
Speaker 3: done well. I don't know. But again I think, hmm.
26:03
Speaker 1: What about your wife or your brother?
26:06
Speaker 3: I think Val would be I think Val would be
26:09
Speaker 3: a good player. He did he did a show get Out,
26:11
Speaker 3: right after I did Traders, and it wasn't It wasn't
26:14
Speaker 3: similar in nature. You have to make you know alliances
26:18
Speaker 3: and then be physical. But I think he would have
26:21
Speaker 3: been good at making alliances, you know, more so than me. Right,
26:28
Speaker 3: I'm a little more you you know, take what you get.
26:32
Speaker 3: But also like if you if you don't get it,
26:35
Speaker 3: it's because I did it on purpose. I didn't show
26:36
Speaker 3: it to you values a little more. You know, his
26:41
Speaker 3: language skills are such that that he can befriend you,
26:45
Speaker 3: you know through this. Right For me, it takes a
26:48
Speaker 3: little longer because my actions, they're going to show you
26:50
Speaker 3: later down the line that I am this, this, and
26:53
Speaker 3: that with value can immediately sort of you know, take
26:56
Speaker 3: him a certain way because of the way he speaks.
27:00
Speaker 3: I think he'll be great if she wants to be.
27:02
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I think he'll be He'll be
27:04
Speaker 3: great on the show.
27:06
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you pulling over and talking to us
27:09
Speaker 1: for a little bit.
27:09
Speaker 3: Mad person.
27:11
Speaker 1: Everything going forward, I'm please come back on when you
27:15
Speaker 1: can announce the projects that you yes, congratulations on all that.
27:18
Speaker 3: I would love to thank you so much by it
27:21
Speaker 3: was nice seeing you.
27:24
Speaker 1: I'm sleep by. Thanks bye bye. Well the bad boy
27:29
Speaker 1: of Dancing with the Stars, he's so nice.
27:32
Speaker 2: He is so nice.
27:34
Speaker 1: I knew he was nice, he said.
27:35
Speaker 2: Another one like me that gets misunderstood, you know, because
27:38
Speaker 2: he speaks his mind and he says how he feels.
27:40
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, Dolores Jersey. People they could
27:44
Speaker 2: take it, but a lot of people can't.
27:46
Speaker 1: Well, I do think it would be fun to see
27:48
Speaker 1: his brother or his sister in law on the show
27:51
Speaker 1: because his wife. Yeah exactly, Yeah, every all of them,
27:56
Speaker 1: they all have to go, and some are traders and
27:58
Speaker 1: some are faithful.
27:59
Speaker 2: So he was saying, he threw out a name. It
28:02
Speaker 2: must be somebody from Dans with the Stars. Yeah, I
28:04
Speaker 2: don't know who that guy is, but so he must
28:06
Speaker 2: be on the upcoming season. Super excited about that. So
28:11
Speaker 2: we're just getting you guys all revved up so we
28:13
Speaker 2: can recap.
28:14
Speaker 1: I think it's a good season.
28:15
Speaker 2: War So we got to get through your guys' season
28:19
Speaker 2: three pretty quickly. Before you know it, it's going to
28:22
Speaker 2: be January.
28:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to rush through season three.
28:25
Speaker 2: The fact that the two of us were on it,
28:28
Speaker 2: we could speak quickly on it because we lived it
28:31
Speaker 2: and we could give you some inside stuff like you
28:33
Speaker 2: did for us.
28:34
Speaker 1: Speaking of Yeah, we need to catch everyone up on
28:37
Speaker 1: season three before we get into season four, and it
28:39
Speaker 1: starts airing on January eighth. Just stick with us. We'll
28:42
Speaker 1: listen to the next podcast and we will get into
28:45
Speaker 1: episode one and two of season three, which means we
28:47
Speaker 1: will be talking about me being banished in just two episodes.
28:52
Speaker 3: Thank you.
28:52
Speaker 1: Guys so much for listening to my Order of the Faithful.
28:55
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28:58
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29:01
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29:05
Speaker 3: M mm hmm