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Stream of Consciousness #68 - Tijana Tucic · Stream of Consciousness with Dan: Stories from the Midwest

• 0:16
  SPEAKER_02: All right, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_02: We are live with Stream of Consciousness with Dan.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_02: And today I'm joined by someone whose story is going to stay with you long after this episode ends.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tiana Tutich is a creator, a healer, and a survivor.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: But more than anything, she's someone who has rebuilt her life from the inside out.
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  SPEAKER_02: She helps people transform their pain through storytelling, art, and deep personal work.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: And she brings a level of honesty and presence.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's rare.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna test my Serbian Zedravo Tiana.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Pako Sidanas.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: How are you doing today, Tiana?
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, hello Dan.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: Zdravo Dan, I'm doing fine.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh thank you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for that Serbian intro.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's really hard melting.
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  unknown: Thanks.
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  SPEAKER_02: I did my best.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you were pretty good.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's oh it's so funny.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_02: I love learning new languages.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's one of my hobbies.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I just love learning languages.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_02: I've been learning Swahili and Hebrew and everything like that.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: So um yeah, so before we get into kind of the heavier chapters of your story, I like to start with something just simple and human and just share what you feel is comfortable.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh when you go back to your childhood, what brought you joy, or what were your hobbies, or what kind of you know, just made you happy as a kid?
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's a very interesting question because um, as I remember, I was the happiest when I was alone.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: Then I felt safe.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_01: But um I used to climb trees and uh I used to go fishing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was like a little boy.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I had uh short hair because of um you know hygiene, it's much easier back then during the poverty war and everything.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's why I overreact now with my long hair.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: I was never um a girlish girl, I was always like broken uh elbows and knees, um, and uh running and fishing and climbing trees.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_01: This is like, you know, when you climb the highest branch and you're like swaying on the on the wind, and you you can die, you can fall and you can die, but uh you feel freedom and you feel like oh nothing bad can happen to me.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: I always had this feeling that nothing bad can happen to me, even though a lot of bad things are happening to me.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I was projecting like um it's not uh actually happened to me, it's just happening to the current situation is uh influencing my um my body but not my mind, something like that.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I extract myself from every bad situation uh into my imagination, so yeah, freedom, happiness, and um solitude.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_02: That makes perfect sense.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's really neat that you were kind of an outdoorsy kind of girl.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um but I I I do want to touch on something a little a little deeper.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when or where were you actually born and where were you raised?
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  SPEAKER_01: I was born in a small town, um, actually like 70 kilometers from Belgrade, uh in Yugoslavia.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um that was a country in the Balkans, and when you're observing uh a map, it's in the center of the world, literally.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and um this country does not exist anymore, it's torn by uh war, by um I don't know, politics.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, unfortunately, um it doesn't exist anymore, but I was raised in Zrenarin, uh in a household with my um father, his mom, and uh my mother.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have a younger sister, she is uh eight and a half years younger than me.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um very very big gap between two of us because uh when I was little, my mom had an accident and she was in a hospital for two years, and um they were about to amputate her both legs, but um she didn't she didn't want to sign that.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: She was literally rotting in a bed, and um a huge tractor pass uh and break her.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like oh my um, and I was most of the time alone with my father who was alcoholic, and um my child was childhood was you know irregular meals.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um he didn't care if I had what to dress, if I was you know clean or whatever.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_01: He was just busy in his own world, and I'm fine with that because uh I was ashamed back then because I was dirty, I was, you know, I had fleas.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was, you know, yeah, poverty.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot imagine how how um low uh life can kick you.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh back then I was ashamed, but now I realize that that has nothing to do with me, and I'm not ashamed now to speak even about this because that was uh the circumstances and the household where I was thrown into this world to to manage, and I manage somehow.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well that is it's just so powerful because I don't know, as someone who you know can't even fathom that it just is incredible that you got through that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm super pumped that you you know can share that with me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so I guess I I kind of want to talk a little about the war, um, because I know there was a lot going on in your um area at that time in your childhood, and obviously you already have an instable um home life, and then there's war on top of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So just just kind of what did that look like?
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  SPEAKER_01: Um it was calm for exam for uh at the beginning of the 90s, the war started uh in the last century, and um it was at the beginning, it was like, yeah um we had a quarrel with our neighbors, but who will bomb us?
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: Who will attack us?
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we didn't uh at least I wasn't aware because I was a child.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: I was yeah, who will attack us?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, it's you cannot imagine that, but all of a sudden you can hear sirens, you can see the the uh planes over the the sky, and uh father was in um at the on the front at the war, and uh we were alone with mom and grandma, um sister and me, and um it was really uh terrible because we had to go into the shelter uh every time we hear sirens, and uh people were panicking and running, um bomb are destroying buildings around us, and uh you know we did not have electricity for more than two years, and uh, we were having candles, or it was really uh for someone who have never been through war, it's I cannot I'm I'm lacking words to explain how um how um difficult, not difficult, difficult is a mild word, um mind-blowing and heart tearing apart and uh soul crashing and spirit crashing and everything was like there is no way out.
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  SPEAKER_01: But um I was like in my teenage days, uh, you know, when I need to go out and with my friends and you know make nail polish and doing makeup and thinking, what should I wear?
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_01: But in reality, I was thinking when it will be my next meal, and will the bomb hit us or will somebody kill us?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: And this is uh something with you know, teenage girl and her 13 to 18 should never think about.
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  SPEAKER_01: But somehow a lot of people died, babies, women, a lot of bad things happened, but uh when everything calmed down, it lasted for uh 1991 to 1992, it was like uh starting, it lasted up to 1994, and then Serbia was bombed once more because uh we didn't want to let part of our country become um uh uh independent country, and uh it was bombed in 1999, so yeah, it was really really I don't wish that to happen to anyone ever.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I completely agree, and yeah, this has been so powerful so far.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: I just appreciate your candidness, and I I kind of want to get into uh your early adulthood.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: I believe you were married at 21.
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  SPEAKER_02: So can you kind of touch on that?
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I know you had your daughter as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's talk about kind of the next chapter of your life.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um the first period of my um early childhood, um my growth, I had an unstable home with a father alcoholic.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: When my teenage days came, I had an unstable environment with the war happening.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then when father returned from the from the front from the war, uh he was even more violent and uh aggressive and unbearable to live with.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I literally got married to my first boyfriend and uh ran away from home.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um but little did I know that um he was also uh mobilized and went to war, and he couldn't comprehend this in his own mind.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: So he started using uh drugs, heavy drugs like heroin and so on.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: And um I couldn't stay in that environment, so I got married.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: I was married for five and a half months, but we were in a relationship for two and a half years, and then we had a child in a relationship.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: Then he insisted to get married because um he thought that he will lose me, but he didn't want to stop, uh, he didn't want to quit uh using drugs.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_01: I insisted because of the child and everything, and he didn't want to, he had his own demons, he's also now a drug addict, so uh somehow I couldn't help myself or my child.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I could only ask him to take care of us and to stop doing that because of our own good, and he he couldn't, he couldn't.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I was married like five and a half months, and uh when I realized that um he will never stop, as now the reality is telling us so.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I took my child and I returned to my home.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: In the meantime, my little sister got married and ran away, the same reasons because I did.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I returned home and then hell started.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the uh father was uh really um protective, protectively oriented toward my child.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Probably he realized that he was never a good father.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: When then he became older and he couldn't drink that much, but he realized that he was never a good father toward my sister nor me.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: And he tries to be a good grandfather.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know, when you spoil a child, you're ruined when when child does not have boundaries or restrictions or rules, or you know, you cannot raise a child if she wants to watch TV at two o'clock in the night, let her, you know, you cannot you cannot raise a child like that, but he did, and uh I had to shut my mouth because I did not have where to go.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I uh it was a burst, not a marriage.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, but I was like uh you know, like a rat in a in a I didn't know where to go, where to find the the exit, but yeah.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm gonna somehow I did I'm gonna go I'm gonna go a little off script.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what obviously you're a huge courageous person.
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  SPEAKER_02: Where do you think that courage came from?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm delusional.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm convinced.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm convinced, like I mentioned previously, nothing bad can happen to me.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, nothing.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: When I'm driving a car, I think this will go off record because we are driving, uh we are uh calculating in kilometers.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: When I'm driving a car in a village road, I'm driving over 200 kilometers per hour.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_01: This is not normal, you know.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: 80 is the limit.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: 80.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm driving 200 because I think nothing bad can happen to me.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: But this is just uh teasing the destiny, teasing the you know, I have to stop to do that.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: But in reality, I'm like I'm God's favorite.
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  SPEAKER_01: What can I say?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think um that courage comes from uh if you believe in yourself and if you're so delusional that you believe that nothing bad, nothing can harm you, it really is your reality.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: And if something happened, okay, let's learn a lesson from it, but I really should stop teasing the destiny.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm really I'm too old for dance.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: I should stop now.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's just uh it's just incredible advice.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I really want to talk next about um you were going to, I believe you call it faculty over there.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so what kind of inspired you to do that?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I know you were also working at the time and raising your daughter, so just kind of talk about that chapter.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I started working in uh factory as a line worker, blue collar, and uh when I realized um how things are going and who are my uh current bosses there, and that I'm I don't want to sound egoistic or narcissistic, but I will run this job better without insulting anyone, you know.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: When you are growing up in a commun communist country, you think that there is an only way to guide the uh workers, you know.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: You have to yell, you have to uh put um you have to whip them, you have to, you know, uh authority.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: But in reality, people can give you much more when you're treating them like humans, like they deserve, when you listen to them, when you believe in them, when you um when you're taking care of them, their needs, when you give give them a day off when his child is sick or whatever, you know, people will have uh gratitude and give much more at work, but in reality it was not like that.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to change that.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I couldn't get that uh job position without school.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I went uh to faculty, University of Technical Science in Navisad, and I wrote uh a letter uh all the time asking them to go to school on Saturdays and Sundays and to pass my exams.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um, because I'm single mom and I'm working and I cannot attend uh best.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I finished the high school the the faculty in uh in four years because it lasts four years, and um I was pretty good at that because I was motivated that I can bring uh uh different culture and treat people better at work.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I did.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, for example, I motivate my uh people, I am their um superior, and I motivate them to go to faculty to study.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I don't have these are only excuses.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: If I could work in three shifts from night shift going Friday morning uh from night shift going to faculty on Saturday and study there for I don't know, eight to ten hours, you can do as well.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: So what's stopping you?
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I was really I had my goal.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: You have to set the goal if you want to make a change in your life and in the life of others.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you see something is not good, either change your attitude towards it, your mindset towards it, or change that situation.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's the the only thing.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I changed the situation for so that is so cool, and um, I remember on your profile you said that around 2009 something shifted and that you started to see your life differently.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Can you elaborate on that?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, uh in 2009 I had um a friend um who had a PC.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: We did not have PC, but she did.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, uh, I received uh a CD uh of a movie, let's watch this movie.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody said it's very, very good.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_01: It was a documentary movie, so we went there and we watched the movie like hypnotized, like can really do that.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_01: Really, we we start to believe in that.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: We became obsessed with that movie, and uh you will be disappointed.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: But back then, when you are, you know, when you don't have an exit uh from the situation, you you're getting uh the straw, like uh it will save you.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: So that whole movie was um a secret.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: You also have a book, A Secret, How to Use Your Mindset to Change Your Reality.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: So we watched that movie, and then I I realized like, oh, that's it.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I I'm either changing my mindset toward things, either uh changing the situation, but everything works out perfectly fine at the end.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Everything.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: So uh after that movie, I started to practicing meditation and um morning uh affirmations, gratitude, and literally everything went.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um upscaling in my life.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry for my English.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: I have um very, very uh poor vocabulary.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, your English is great.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, okay, thanks.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: Your English is just fine.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm I'm rewinding in Serbian in my mind, and I could say much, much more, but no, don't worry about it at all.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: Sincerely, your English is perfect.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, if you want me to speak Serbian, then I'd look like an idiot.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: So no, uh, so if you want to just kind of touch on your daughter and what she means to you and just what kind of inspires you to support her, because I mean being a mother is one of the coolest things in the world.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: So I really just wanted to give you a place to talk about your daughter.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, okay.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, she was born in 2000.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: She had uh one kilogram and 700 grams when she was born.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: When I was pregnant, yeah, very small.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: When I was pregnant, uh during my pregnancy, I had 39 kilograms.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: 39, it's like uh I was very slim and uh barely I'm just gonna do the conversion here because I'm not a kilogram guy.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, give me two seconds because uh okay kilograms a pound.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: You're 39.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh my god, you were 85 pounds.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: In the first trimester of the pregnancy, I was 39.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and because I was depressed, I was I was not even aware how I looked.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: I can share your picture afterwards so you can see how I looked.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: It was like terrible, terrible.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: I was I'm scary.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um but um my daughter had uh um one kilogram, 700 grams, and uh she went she was born premature, and uh she was transferred in a hospital in Novi Sad.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: So almost two months.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: I did not have a bond, I did not have a connection with her, uh, but I had to sustain milk in order to breastfeed her when she got out.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_01: And uh first time when I went there, it was like 40 incubators, I don't know how to say where the babies are prematurely born.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I I just saw one baby, I said, That's that's mine, and uh my husband back then said, How do you know?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: I said, I know, and I never saw her, um, because I had a c-section, I was um I was asleep and I never saw her, so yeah, that was her.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: That that's you know the bond when you had with your child.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's yeah, I cannot explain this, but um she was really, really good baby, and when uh we got divorced and I returned to my family, um, they spoiled her up to the point that I was the enemy because I was forbidden uh TV, chocolate, uh you know, everything what is not uh and and then I was an enemy and we had a very bad relationship uh up recently, up to three, four years ago.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: She's now 26, and uh now we are like best friends because she realized um how she was raised by my parents and how she will raise her child and she will have one one day.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_01: So she said, Oh my god, they let me do this.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, why didn't you stop him?
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I told her, like, uh, I tried.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know you try.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, mom, because I was bad to you.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: I said, No, never mind, it's fine.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Because everything will be fine in the end somehow.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I forgive my father for everything what he did because uh he had his own demons to fight, he he didn't his consciousness was not uh developed enough to to observe from um another point and to find a solution.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: He was just drowning in his own misery and depression, probably, and he was like that.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: But uh that influenced our lives.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um but now everything is fine.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm healed, I'm perfectly happy, healthy.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm in my 50s almost, and yeah, I'm satisfied.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you look great, and I'm I'm super proud of you.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I I really want to kind of talk about what you're doing right now.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_02: I know you're working with programs like uh Millionaire Mind Intensive and Quantum Leap.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I really want to give you the platform to talk about those.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um for example, uh last year uh I met a uh speaker um in Ljubljana in Slovenia, and he invited me for the Million Man Intensive, it's a success resources team for the first training.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it was in Romania in area in a city called Kluj, and I sat in a car and I drove five hours there and in January last year, and then I have attended that first training, so it changed my direction and point of view again because we have to be open for new opportunities.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and if we are closed for for offers, the universe are giving you offers every day through person, through um through I don't know how to say environment or whatever.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: If you're looking for a sign to change something, and uh some of your not friends, but if you know a girl or a guy is telling you, hey, I have two tickets.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, I'm waiting for a sign, but that is a sign, you know.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, probably we ignore a lot of things, uh thinking that uh it's not for us, but we have to be open for everything.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: So I drove uh five hours there and it literally um cracked the system.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: How can I say?
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: Crack the metrics, yeah.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I had now I involved invested in myself.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: I finished the faculty and I finished uh master's studies uh in um in um I don't know how to say PR hotel business.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel I I finished um a lot of courses uh during my uh working work time working period, and um I worked back then as a quality manager, I had a very good salary, like a few thousand euros in Serbia, it's really a very good salary, and uh a car, a house.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: I built a house, I don't have a loan, you know.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: I I was you know on my feet on the ground, but something was missing, you know.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_01: This is not it.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: If I have to commute to work like four hours, and I have to stay at work like 10 hours, and I have to go home, and I have like two hours for me before I sleep, this is not life, but the majority is living like this, so I uh the training I realized that I have to change something.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I had I took the quantum leap intensive, the whole package, the whole course, and um then I started to attend training after training, and um so the last one was in June, which I haven't attended, uh which changed my mind, literally changed my mind and made me bold to um change my life.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I have started uh this new journey um and my new business.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that is I mean freaking awesome.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: That is so neat, it's inspiring.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so I want also to give you the floor to talk about where people can like find your work.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: I know you wrote an autobiography, so I would just love to uh have my audience be able to see where your work is at.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: So my uh book will be published probably in July.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's still ongoing, it's very slow.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: I was thinking like it'll be faster, you know, but it has to be translated from Serbian, it has to be, you know.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, obviously, now you cannot mention some words.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's some new rules and new new law.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot mention um raw words, you have to little repack something.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I have to change a lot and but um and uh regarding my um website it's www.set uh small line priorities.com set line priorities.com.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: So this is my website and on Instagram page it's set priorities.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but now currently uh I hire some some guys, some programmers, uh, which are making a portal where people can write their story because I have developed this um journaling, not actually journaling, but um structural structural um therapeutical writing so they can express themselves and divide from what happened to them and rebuild themselves again?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: I love that so much.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so before we wrap up, we're gonna get a little deep again.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: I just feel like in today's world there's just conflicts, wars everywhere.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, what advice would you give to you know people in those countries that are involved in it to you know stay positive and try to survive?
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_02: I guess it's it it's I guess that's a very tough question to ask.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's just I don't know, sometimes for me it's just like why are we doing like all of these concepts?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: Best things, yeah.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm really sorry, I'm really surprised uh because up to now the consciousness of global consciousness should be level up and uh realize that the war is not the answer.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: For example, uh, you don't know much about Serbia, but hey, I'm human, I'm like you, I don't want to harm you.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: Why do you bomb me?
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, why children they're innocent because one of the I don't know politicians had uh an idea that it will be good to put bombs on a country and to destroy everything in order to what you know, and uh the victims and the people who are going all through this, and uh not everybody is I cannot say mentally strong, but nor I can say weak but uh prepared, not everybody is prepared, well prepared uh to that.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I cannot give an advice because everybody has to find their own way, but if you have in mind that nothing bad can happen to you, if you lose your physical body, it's okay, it's fine, I'm fine with that.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: If I lose my physical body and my presence at this material expression, it's fine.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: I cannot be destroyed, my spirit cannot be destroyed, energy cannot be destroyed, because I'm now here just to collect the information of the world, and one and ultimate thing that connects is love and help.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's all.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm here to love and to help.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe help is a strong world.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm here to serve you, to serve to everybody who wants to change their life, their mindset, whatever.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: So the only ultimate answer is love.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: So if something bad is happening to you, just realize it is happening currently, it is happening to your body, but your mind has to stay strong because nothing bad can happen to you.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: You're just collecting information.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: And if something even worse happens, if you die, it's fine, it's just fine because you cannot be destroyed.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: You're going, you cannot relate to God or any religion because that's how I limit myself or limit the soul.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: But you don't have to believe in anything, you just have to believe in yourself and you are saved because we are the one, we are connected with the source, and we are all the same.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: If we are awakened, if we are not awakened, then we make wars and we make differences and everything.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: I literally couldn't agree more with everything you just said, because I think it's so cool that we're talking today, we're completely across the world from each other, but yes, we can connect, and like you said, we're all human, we all value well, we should all value you know, safety and things like that.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: I get a little emotional, I apologize.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um but it is like that because Mother Earth is uh this earth is female energy.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, you're a male, but this earth should be caring, giving, and loving, no destroying, no wars, no nothing.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: And this is the only ultimate thing this earth is vibrating.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: And why to destroy, why to make something different?
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's like uh what I was doing.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: I was in my male energy, I was working, driving, you know.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's not me, I was going against me, so I had tons of allergies, I had you know constantly um difficult disease because this is not who I am.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm constantly going against myself, but when I'm in my feminine energy, I'm like everything is aligned, everything is perfect.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes people are uh holding grudges towards their family, towards uh at work, towards their colleagues or bosses, and eventually what they're holding in their body can spread through cancer, to autoimmune disease, through through something, because they are holding that.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_01: You have to just release and to learn how to align yourself and to meditate and be in peace with yourself and everything around you.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes if this situation is not for you, just exclude yourself.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot change, you just okay, thank you so much, with a smile, without insulting anything, any anybody, just you know it's not for you.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: You can feel the energy if you're um put give your senses a little bit uh how can I say they're very uh our senses are very um fragile, yeah, but we are suppressing it constantly, like you know that gut feeling when you are supposed to do something and it's telling you no, don't go there or do that, that you're going and you are getting uh, I don't know, an accident, ashamed or insulted, or bad is happening and something is not working right.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's just listen to that gut feeling because this is your body, this is your receptions uh telling you that you have to listen to your yourself.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, we are across the world, but we are like one.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_02: We are, and uh you don't know how religious you are, but would you mind if I said a prayer?
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, I'm saying a prayer, yes.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so give me one second, I have one um ready to go.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_02: I hope I can get through this.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh dear God, thank you for the gift of Tian's life, for the courage she carries, for the light she keeps choosing, even on the days when it costs her something.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: I ask that you surround her with peace that settles deep in her bones, the kind that reminds her she is held, protected, and never walking alone.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: Give her strength for the steps ahead, clarity for the story she's shaping, and the rest of the parts of her heart that are still healing.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_02: Let her feel your nearness in the quiet moment, your steadiness when the world feels uncertain, and your gentleness in every place she's still learning to trust again.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: Bless her work, her voice, her future, and the people she loves.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_02: Guide her safely, keep her grounded, and let hope rise in her like something she can lean on.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: Amen.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Damn, I'm about to lose it.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: But it's okay.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um sincerely, Tiana, thank you so much.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for being here today.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: It was my pleasure.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Stay calm, Doctor.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna have to edit some of this out because I sound like an idiot.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh sounds lovely.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_01: We all have we strength and weaknesses.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's making us a human.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_02: So just again for your honesty, your openness, your courage, uh, just the way you show up.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: Your story's powerful, and I'm so excited to share it with my audience.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_02: So for everyone, everyone listening, thank you for spending time with us today.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: Remember, we are all one.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_02: We are all people, support each other, support yourself, support your community, and I'll post all of Tiana's work and links in the description below.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: So as always, take care of yourselves, and I'll see you on the next one.