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Are the Eagles even title contenders anymore? NFL Week 13 Reactions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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Speaker 1: My home still hasn't won an eighteen shout out. Welcome
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Speaker 1: back to another episode, episode number one for one of
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Speaker 1: the so called sports ana lists. Man, I'm doing great today, guys.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How about y'all?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty solid. I'm starting my Johnny Furfey basketball
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Speaker 2: auto collection right now. You know, so Australian legend, that
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Speaker 2: guy off having dunk like he can't even dunk.
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Speaker 3: I bet an dunk.
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Speaker 2: He can't dunk like Johnny Furfy.
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Speaker 1: That's probably not probably than Bailey.
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Speaker 2: Talk to me when Chris Olave plays at University of
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Speaker 2: Kansas and and fights crocodile's tell me, talk to me
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Speaker 2: when he does that.
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Speaker 1: But all right, the first game that we're going to
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Speaker 1: start off with, you know, you know.
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Speaker 2: Actually like Johnny Furfy was drafted, he was drafted with
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Speaker 2: the Spurs second round pick, but we traded that pick.
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Speaker 2: He ended up drafting Harrison Ingram Harrison m.
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Speaker 3: Podcast guys, guys talking about different sports this week? What
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Speaker 3: about F one?
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Speaker 2: Bro Recket hasn't watched an F one race in two years.
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Speaker 3: That's not true. That's not true. Me and you almost
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Speaker 3: went to Austin. No, you didn't.
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Speaker 2: Almost doesn't count, recking. I've a been to a racing event.
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Speaker 3: You haven't in the NASCAR race.
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Speaker 2: Bro, have you ever been to a NASCAR Do you
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Speaker 2: have Kyle Larson's victory at the Brickyard four hundred autograph Magazine? No,
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Speaker 2: I don't think you do. I met him. I haven't
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Speaker 2: Pyle Larson, you don't.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this game that happened four days ago,
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Speaker 1: right here and on Josh, you know, no.
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Speaker 2: No, no, we're not gonna do this.
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Speaker 1: Just jesus, you know that.
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Speaker 2: Jervy Sohn actually has a negative thirty four plus minus
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Speaker 2: on the season. Like that is insane trade for tram
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Speaker 2: Let's go get Trey Murphy. Tray Murphy. Guys, Josh, did
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Speaker 2: you once again the New Orleans Saints flew a game?
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Speaker 2: Did you know that once again?
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Speaker 3: You know it's not like we blew the game. I
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Speaker 3: mean we got a better draft pick, Jets one, which
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Speaker 3: I was pretty happy about.
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Speaker 1: It is a better draft pick.
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Speaker 3: What the second?
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Speaker 2: All right, we can all right continue.
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Speaker 3: We're guaranteed the second the second pick.
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Speaker 2: But how are you guaranteed the second pick.
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Speaker 1: They're not gonna win any more games? Yeah, yeah, same
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Speaker 1: time winning no more games.
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Speaker 2: I hope they win their next game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll probably pull the game just so they.
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Speaker 2: Can draft, just so they can draft another quarterback to
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Speaker 2: ruin his career draft draft.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna draft.
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Speaker 2: No, they're gonna pass. No, they're gonna pass on a
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Speaker 2: quarterback for five rounds. Let him go to like Cleveland
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Speaker 2: Browns or something.
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Speaker 1: He's rage bait and Breckett don't fall for a break
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Speaker 1: and he's trying.
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Speaker 2: Chilling, bro, did you see did you see face?
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Speaker 1: Bracket? I saw your face. I saw your face.
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Speaker 3: I thought about the draft, but I was like, that's
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Speaker 3: for another day. Today we're going to talk about how
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys whooped the ship out of.
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Speaker 2: Jack and Jackson Darr went number twenty eight, just so
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Speaker 2: you know.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. It was Josh's birthday, and I
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Speaker 1: don't know about you, Brecon. I think Josh was watching
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Speaker 1: this print game pretty well. I think he was at
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Speaker 1: this game too, right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I heard he actually stayed at my house
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Speaker 3: then went to the game to go ahead and watch
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Speaker 3: his Chiefs get their ass whooped the school on television.
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Speaker 1: Why live alive as whooped? And Ryan's here in the
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Speaker 1: chat already. But Josh, what did you see from that
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Speaker 1: game there in the stands?
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Speaker 2: I know I saw, well, what I saw was the
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Speaker 2: great football player that ever lived, Mahomes, and I saw
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Speaker 2: everyone else play like Absolute and Rascia Rice played good,
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Speaker 2: but he had a terrible cat drop, but everyone else
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Speaker 2: played absolutely terrible. And dude, honestly, I'm gonna be completely honest.
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Speaker 2: I want, like, I know McDuffie would have been on
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Speaker 2: a highlight row. He still is on a highlight roll
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Speaker 2: this for this game. But I looked at Jesse when
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Speaker 2: when George Pickens almost completed the hurdle, and I was like,
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Speaker 2: you don't want as a fan, as a fan of
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, I'm glad it didn't happen, But as a
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Speaker 2: witness of sports and loving sports, I was like, I
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Speaker 2: hope that that would have been sick to say I
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Speaker 2: saw that in person. But dude, honestly, Absolute, I mean,
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Speaker 2: Chris Jones trash, Like I'm tired of it. Like, let's
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Speaker 2: move on in the offseason. But Trim McDuffie, dude, holy,
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Speaker 2: Like I've seen him get worked by Courtland in one
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Speaker 2: game like naj Brown Super Bowl, but this was the
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Speaker 2: absolute worst I have ever seen Trim McDuffie play. And
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Speaker 2: it's not like he was getting like he had. He
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Speaker 2: only allowed what three or four catches in this game,
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Speaker 2: but they were very important catches and it's just all
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Speaker 2: the pis. It's just not something he used to doing.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 1: He gave up forty four yards the most this season
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Speaker 1: in the entire game he gave oh yeah, yeah, he.
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Speaker 2: Had allowed another receiver to go for forty yards of
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Speaker 2: the entire season. And that's dude. Dallas Cowboys, dude, I
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Speaker 2: hope they go on a win streak, bro, because I
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Speaker 2: want to see. They're my Super Bowl favorites now, Like
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Speaker 2: I I don't care who they play, Like, couldn't the defense, Okay,
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Speaker 2: So I think here's the thing, Like this is kind
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Speaker 2: of like I think in the boat. Okay, I know
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Speaker 2: it didn't translate to wins, Like I think that they
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Speaker 2: need it because just an average defense of Dallas Cowboys,
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Speaker 2: Like they just needed an average defense to kind of
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Speaker 2: get one or a couple stops, and they held the
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Speaker 2: Chiefs basically scoreless for two whole quarters, like in the
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Speaker 2: second and the third quarters, and they held that offense.
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Speaker 2: The Chiefs offense very stagnant, which we'll get into the
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Speaker 2: play calling in a minute, super stupid. But still like
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Speaker 2: I think Quinn Williams, I know over shown is still
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Speaker 2: catching his legs. Like you can still tell he's not
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Speaker 2: fully like there yet because there is a couple of
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Speaker 2: times where like he is getting like like work, not
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Speaker 2: outran or work, but he can tell he's rusty.
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Speaker 3: But as far as Quinn on the on the sideline.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then there was one of the play he
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Speaker 2: tried tackling she rise. She writes just kind of like,
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Speaker 2: you know, but but that's I'm not but that's whatever
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Speaker 2: he's still getting is like I don't really hold that
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Speaker 2: against him. But as far as like Quinn Williams, what
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Speaker 2: he has been able to do for the Dallas Cowboys,
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Speaker 2: not that he's like creating this insane amount of opportunities,
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Speaker 2: but he is creating opportunity for like for Jordan No,
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Speaker 2: but but but he's creating opportunities like for guys like
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Speaker 2: Jadeveon Clowney. You know, they brought in Davon County even
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Speaker 2: bringing more pressure. But having that guy in the interior
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Speaker 2: creating so much is opening up everything for guys like
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Speaker 2: Donovan Zeruku and Jadeveon clown and be able to create
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Speaker 2: a lot of pressure. And Dante Fowler isn't even playing
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Speaker 2: right now, so they're still missing a whole other option
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Speaker 2: on that defensive line. And then and then kind of
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Speaker 2: Breckens guy a little bit. Chavon Revel didn't look too
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Speaker 2: bad in this game. He didn't look too bad.
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Speaker 1: I still.
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Speaker 2: A couple zaber worthy, oh my gosh, bro, But you know,
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Speaker 2: everyone else but Rahi Rice had a major drop. Travis
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Speaker 2: Kelsey had a major drop. And as far as people
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Speaker 2: are hating on the penalties, to be honest, it didn't
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Speaker 2: look that bad person. Like, if I'm being honest, I
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Speaker 2: I don't. I think the Johnson's the Josh Shimmans one
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Speaker 2: was a little crazy, you know, because you kind of
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Speaker 2: just manhandled that guy. But as far as everything else,
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Speaker 2: like it's football, like it's gonna be called that way,
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Speaker 2: I can't really hate on it too much. And then dude,
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Speaker 2: Dak Dak's putting the ball where it needs to be
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Speaker 2: right now. And I'm gonna give my props because even
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Speaker 2: though I'm a Chiefs fan, I still hope the Cowboys succeed.
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Speaker 2: And I got to say, honestly, that was a great
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Speaker 2: game to witness in person, like, I was more. I
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Speaker 2: was sad, for sure, but I think I was more
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Speaker 2: taken back because it was like my first NFL game. Dude,
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Speaker 2: There's so much that goes on in an NFL game,
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Speaker 2: like in person, like, I was like, bro, you know who?
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Speaker 2: I felt bad the most for the cheerleaders, dog Like.
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Speaker 2: I'ma be completely honest dude, Like, Dude, here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: They're constantly dancing on the sideline. No, I'm stopping. Stop.
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Speaker 2: But even during breaks, bro Like, they're in the corner dancing,
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Speaker 2: bro Like, and they're like timeouts. Oh look, it's America, sweethearts.
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Speaker 2: They're out there dancing a game, bro Like, dude, what
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Speaker 2: kind of.
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Put them out there to play, coach, I might as
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Speaker 2: well put them Matt freaking defensive end for their Chiefs
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Speaker 2: or defensive tackle because they got a lot more energy
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Speaker 2: than our guys. Because dude, Chris Jones, I'm over it. Dude, like,
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Speaker 2: I can't even defend the defense. Look the worst they've looked,
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Speaker 2: and I think in a couple of years, like I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna be complete. They've had some games up and downs,
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Speaker 2: but this is definitely the worst that they look. This
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Speaker 2: is definitely the worst that they look. No, I don't
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Speaker 2: think how to open their comments.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how.
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Speaker 3: I've just seen it. I just seen it.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, but yeah, Chiefs got worked. I can't really
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Speaker 2: just shave you break your go ahead.
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Speaker 3: No, it was a great game to witness, as we
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Speaker 3: all know. Dude, I loved it. I literally hosted a
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Speaker 3: GP three edit right before the game started. I was
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Speaker 3: so hyphed, and I mean he delivered. I'm not gonna lie.
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Speaker 3: At the start of the game, I was like, oh shit,
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Speaker 3: McDuffie is locking him up for like three quarters. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: for three quarters. Granted, there was like the ball in
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Speaker 3: the sun that GP three should have caught, that would
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Speaker 3: have been like maybe like fifteen twenty yards, you know.
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Speaker 3: There there were some other balls that you were like, oh,
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Speaker 3: he usually gets those, you know. And then but just
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Speaker 3: in that fourth quarter, whenever you need him most, man,
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Speaker 3: he shows up like Dak Prescott after his mandatory pick
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Speaker 3: on the first quarter just turns into you know, prime
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Speaker 3: Tom Brady looking absolutely insane out there. And the run
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Speaker 3: game looked surprisingly good. I didn't think that the run
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Speaker 3: game would be this good, but it was. It was
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Speaker 3: consistent for the Cowboys, that's all they wig run.
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Speaker 2: Outside of that, it was kind of trash.
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Speaker 3: No, it was. It was consistent and consent, and then
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Speaker 3: they had the one big run. It was it was
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Speaker 3: they were picking up yards on first down, make it
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Speaker 3: second and manageable every single time.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry laugh. But as soon as Milik Davis had
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Speaker 2: to like forty three yard run, Jesse just immediately went,
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Speaker 2: why is Dravonte Williams starting? Like he's so slow?
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Speaker 4: Like we didn't put him with Leak Davis like like
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Speaker 4: he was calling like he was called, like he he
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Speaker 4: looked at me like, Bro, I should have picked up
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Speaker 4: Malik Davis in Dynasty, Like I should have picked him
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Speaker 4: up like he like he was like like bro, bro,
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Speaker 4: League Davis should be starting over Javonte Williams. Like every
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Speaker 4: time they like, I'm like what, dude, Like Javon just
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Speaker 4: been doing good like and he's like, nah, he's so
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Speaker 4: slow compared to Milick Davis like, I was, like, he
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Speaker 4: got so excited.
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Speaker 2: I didn't think that.
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Speaker 1: Was Davis touchdown.
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Speaker 3: I know. And he's he's been steven a big. This
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Speaker 3: is two weeks in a row where he breaks off
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Speaker 3: an explosive run, which is like with Jaden Blue Miss,
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Speaker 3: and he's really just taking advantage of his opportunities. He's
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Speaker 3: supposed to be, like what a four stringer you know,
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Speaker 3: behind standards.
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Speaker 1: A practice squad two weeks ago.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, I mean he's really shown up. Ferguson,
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Speaker 3: you wish you got that touchdown. I mean it was, dude,
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Speaker 3: it was really it was just I mean, it was
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Speaker 3: a great game. I texted Josh before the game that
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Speaker 3: I just I really wanted it to be a good
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Speaker 3: game because I mean I knew that that's what I
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Speaker 3: was gonna come down to. I'm not gonna lie. Whenever
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Speaker 3: I seen Mahomes break those two sacks, roll out throw it,
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Speaker 3: you know, fifty yards downfield while falling to Xavier Worthy,
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Speaker 3: I thought, oh shit, here it goes again. The Mahomes magic.
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Speaker 3: I thought for sure that the Chiefs were gonna come
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Speaker 3: back and win it. But I mean the Cowboys defense,
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Speaker 3: they showed up and they showed out and they played
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Speaker 3: really good.
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Speaker 1: So so I texted Josh early in the morning, well
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Speaker 1: not early, I told him, I say happy birthday, Josh.
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Speaker 2: Oh, We're not el texted him, but.
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Speaker 1: I told him from three thirty to six thirty, we're
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Speaker 1: not friends. We're not We're not friends at this current moment.
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Speaker 1: And and if you would have said before the game, hey,
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes gonna have almost three hundred total yards, four
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Speaker 1: touchdowns and no turnovers. And if you would have asked me, hey,
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Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys are gonna win the game?
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Speaker 1: ALT said, you motherfucking right, because we have Dak Prescott
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Speaker 1: on our side, damnit. And Dak Prescott outplayed Patrick Mahomes
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Speaker 1: in this game. And Okay, Mahomes did not play bad
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Speaker 1: in this game, but.
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Speaker 2: Dak what more is he supposed to do? Bro, like
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Speaker 2: off so bad and.
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Speaker 1: Just whenever it came down to it. And I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: say this, the Chiefs defense on third down that would
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Speaker 1: get him the third down, but Bro, I think they
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Speaker 1: have one of the worst percentages now as far as
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Speaker 1: a third down stop in defense and just play calling.
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Speaker 1: This was a coaching masterclass, Like this is the first
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Speaker 1: time where I could say, like the Chiefs, they got
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Speaker 1: out class coaching on both sides the ball.
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Speaker 2: This was one of Spaggs's worst performance.
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Speaker 3: But on that side, I mean even the last like
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Speaker 3: two three weeks, I feel like Spags has been but
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Speaker 3: very confusing.
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Speaker 1: But okay, I'll say I've told I even told Josh this.
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Speaker 1: I said, one thing you can't do against Dak Prescott
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Speaker 1: is blitzed that Spags is bread and butter. And I
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Speaker 1: think he went ten for thirteen, one hundred and eighty
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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown, so that that's the last thing
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Speaker 1: you want to do against Dak Prescott. And just all
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Speaker 1: I'm saying this is I'm sipping this Cowboys koolide. I've
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Speaker 1: been saying that the past three weeks. Apparently at it
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be just a Raiders game, then came
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Speaker 1: back down twenty one zero, and then gave the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: a head start in a seven to zero game, and
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Speaker 1: still came back in one. At this point, especially after
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Speaker 1: the Rams loss, if the Cowboys sneak into the playoffs,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say those words. I'm not gonna say
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Speaker 1: those words, but I am thinking those words right there.
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Speaker 1: They're the most dangerous team in the NFC. If they
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Speaker 1: get in the dance. That's the biggest thing. If they
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Speaker 1: get in the dance. I don't know how they're gonna
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Speaker 1: get there, because I think they have like a twenty
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Speaker 1: percent chance.
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Speaker 2: But I am.
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Speaker 1: If you get there, if they get there, if they
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Speaker 1: get there, I'm just saying this Cowboys team, dude.
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Speaker 3: And what's so funny is after this week, I still
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Speaker 3: feel like the Chiefs have a better chance of making
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Speaker 3: the playoffs than the Cowboys, just because I feel like
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Speaker 3: the NFC this year is so much better than the AFC.
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Speaker 1: Well, the goal, the goal for the Cowboys is obviously
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Speaker 1: they have to win out and they have to see
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to find this picture. I say it earlier.
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Speaker 1: So they need the Eagles to lose two games or
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Speaker 1: have the Bears, Packers, Niners or Seattle finish two to three.
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Speaker 1: So two out of those teams. But I think the
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Speaker 1: best shots Philly. I think the best shots Philly losing
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Speaker 1: because they have the Chargers, they have Buffalo, and I
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Speaker 1: think the Chiefs. They have Houston next week.
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Speaker 2: Broncos Raiders.
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Speaker 1: But it sucks because the Chiefs they don't have the
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Speaker 1: tiebreaker over Buffalo over Jacksonville, which those are gonna be
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Speaker 1: the teams fighting in the Wild Card. That's what's for them.
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Speaker 1: They have to get two games.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Like okay, So as far as the Dallas Cowboys,
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Speaker 2: like I mean already harped on it. I picked them.
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Speaker 2: I'm high on them too right now. As far as
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, dude, I mean, I mean with Spags, I
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Speaker 2: can't blame the play calling, Like this year, it's not
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Speaker 2: his fault. Like I feel like the front four have
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Speaker 2: not generated any real positive pressures. You know, they get
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Speaker 2: a lot of pressures, but they're already five seconds, four second,
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Speaker 2: like the play is already happening. Like the guy's been
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Speaker 2: standing back there for days by the time they even
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Speaker 2: get to him. So he has to throw all these safeties,
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Speaker 2: all these corn there's all these linebackers in a bliss
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Speaker 2: to even create some type of pressure, and it just
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Speaker 2: puts your defense back on their heels every single time,
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Speaker 2: playing uncomfortable. And I think this was the biggest problem
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Speaker 2: this year, this this week because, like I said, mc McDuffie,
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Speaker 2: where he struggles the most is when he's one on
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Speaker 2: one with the bigger receiver, you know, and Ceedee Lamb
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Speaker 2: just kind of just just out just outclassed him in
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Speaker 2: this game. But as far as like people like George Pickens,
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Speaker 2: you can't do this when he's had when you can't
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Speaker 2: bring any extra help, when you can't bring but you
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Speaker 2: can't bring any any extra help on the outside, when
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Speaker 2: you're constantly trying to create pressure when you should just
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Speaker 2: probably just be having all people sit back and sit
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Speaker 2: back and play. And I'm really tired of harping on it,
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Speaker 2: but Chris Jones is a problem this season. Like it's
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Speaker 2: it's just some of the worst ball he's played in
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Speaker 2: his entire career. He's not creating anything. He's not the
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Speaker 2: closer he used to be, and I'm kind of it's
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Speaker 2: hurting this team really bad. And as far as offensively,
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Speaker 2: why do we constantly get out of from behind the
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Speaker 2: center runs? Like it doesn't work when we're just constantly
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Speaker 2: running out of shotgun? It's it's the Chiefs have a
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Speaker 2: real positive rate when they run when Mahomes is under
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Speaker 2: center compared to running out of the shotgun. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: think so, I think the Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: But watching the Chiefs, they're just like a big play offense.
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Speaker 1: They just it's weird because well, you know, super drive
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Speaker 1: down the field, and then after that it was either
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Speaker 1: Kareem hunt run or deep deep shot down the field
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Speaker 1: until late.
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Speaker 2: Go away from what he only caught in this game, bricking.
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Speaker 1: Touchdown one of them.
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Speaker 2: He's the best after the catch runner in the entire.
19:01
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not I'm not complaining. I'm saying that's
19:03
Speaker 3: a good thing that the Chiefs have.
19:06
Speaker 2: No you know what the problem was this week? I
19:13
Speaker 2: argued for Dez Bryant so much. It gave the Chiefs
19:16
Speaker 2: good juju going into this game. And that's what I'm
19:19
Speaker 2: gonna give the Cowboys good good or going into this game.
19:22
Speaker 2: That's why they won. Actually we're talking about it. It
19:27
Speaker 2: seems like we were talking about earlier, Like the Chiefs
19:31
Speaker 2: constantly playing I think winners fatigue is getting to them
19:36
Speaker 2: at this point. Like and it's a it's a common
19:38
Speaker 2: thing when teams constantly are playing deep in the playoffs.
19:41
Speaker 2: It just wears on these old, older players after a while.
19:44
Speaker 2: And I think this is what it's hitting for the
19:46
Speaker 2: Kansity Chiefs right now. I think there needs to be
19:48
Speaker 2: a new set of faces within that defense because we
19:52
Speaker 2: gotta think this is the same defense they've had for
19:54
Speaker 2: the past what four years, already three or four years,
19:58
Speaker 2: and they haven't really made any real improvements. Like sure,
20:01
Speaker 2: Chris Jones got resigned, McDuffie's still hasn't gotten resigned, and
20:05
Speaker 2: then carlact has just got a contract, but it's no
20:08
Speaker 2: real game changers that have been brought in to create
20:10
Speaker 2: any new spark for that defense. And offensively, I mean
20:13
Speaker 2: Josh Shimmons is now out probably for at least change right,
20:18
Speaker 2: might be the rest of the year. Yeah, but we're
20:21
Speaker 2: constantly rolling out there with Juwan Taylor making mistakes and
20:25
Speaker 2: on the offensive end, Travis Kelce those had a good season,
20:29
Speaker 2: it's just not the same as it used to be.
20:32
Speaker 2: Like there's just constant pressure and the lack of a
20:35
Speaker 2: run game over the last couple of seasons has really
20:37
Speaker 2: hurt this team because there hasn't been a consistent playmaker
20:40
Speaker 2: in the backfield. And I really do think in the
20:42
Speaker 2: offseason they're gonna have to sit back and look, who
20:45
Speaker 2: who do we still need? Who are we going to
20:47
Speaker 2: bring in? And then how can we limit these mistakes?
20:52
Speaker 2: And I honestly do think any read needs to take
20:54
Speaker 2: a look in the mirror and say, what am I
20:56
Speaker 2: doing wrong because I feel like there's a lot of
20:57
Speaker 2: constant things that he's trying to redo over and over
21:00
Speaker 2: again that has just the league has already figured out,
21:03
Speaker 2: you know, and Mahomes is doing the best he can.
21:05
Speaker 2: When you watch Mahomes play, he's doing everything he can,
21:08
Speaker 2: like he's legit, like doing everything. Jesse's are getting mad
21:12
Speaker 2: because the Cowboys couldn't sack him on first hit because
21:15
Speaker 2: he's constantly moving around in the backyard to try trying
21:19
Speaker 2: to make something happen. And yeah, I'm kind of over it.
21:23
Speaker 2: I know it sounds annoying, but it's just the truth.
21:26
Speaker 2: Like I think, constantly getting a team's best shot weekend
21:29
Speaker 2: and week out, having to play at the top of
21:31
Speaker 2: your game, playing deep into the playoffs, constantly playing constantly
21:35
Speaker 2: playing in the Super Bowl is starting to wear on
21:37
Speaker 2: this team. And I just think it's time for a
21:38
Speaker 2: rejuvenation of players. The Patriots went through this, the Chiefs
21:42
Speaker 2: should jump on it before they had to do it.
21:45
Speaker 2: I don't want to go through a ten year draft
21:46
Speaker 2: like the Patriots did with Tom Brady. You can't waste
21:49
Speaker 2: the career like Mahomes and do that. It's just it's
21:51
Speaker 2: just not going to work out for the Kansaty Chiefs
21:53
Speaker 2: if if they tried doing that.
21:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, And I mean I was kind of I'd like,
21:57
Speaker 3: that's exactly what I was gonna say, was I feel
22:00
Speaker 3: like with this team in these years that were supposed
22:03
Speaker 3: to be rebuilding years, they were making super Bowls and
22:06
Speaker 3: winning them. And so it's like, as a team and
22:09
Speaker 3: as a fan base, you feel like, oh, like we're
22:12
Speaker 3: winning with these guys. We're winning super Bowls, we're making
22:15
Speaker 3: it to the game. We can't get rid of them.
22:18
Speaker 3: So then you're keeping around these older or aging players
22:21
Speaker 3: or less talented guys that are you know, being carried
22:24
Speaker 3: along because of a great team. And then you know,
22:28
Speaker 3: maybe these guys are cognitively great but aren't physically gifted.
22:34
Speaker 3: And so that's why a team like the Eagles are
22:36
Speaker 3: kind of like the opposite is they're so young and
22:38
Speaker 3: they're drafting all these physically gifted guys that maybe aren't
22:41
Speaker 3: the smartest players, but you know, they're staying so fresh
22:45
Speaker 3: and so young that it doesn't even matter. Compared to
22:48
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs, a lot of this roster is getting
22:50
Speaker 3: a little bit older, and I mean there's no like
22:53
Speaker 3: like there's Worthy, which is an athletic freak. But other
22:57
Speaker 3: than that, I mean, there's not really athletic freak on
23:01
Speaker 3: this offense. I guess Joshimmons. But both of those guys
23:04
Speaker 3: were just drafted, so you know, you don't really get
23:07
Speaker 3: you know, you feel like you don't really get a
23:08
Speaker 3: shot at these guys. You gotta let you know, players
23:11
Speaker 3: like Willy Gaego, you know who I thought was maybe
23:13
Speaker 3: just a rotational guy, but he's a freak athlete and
23:16
Speaker 3: he could develop and especially on you know, the Chiefs
23:19
Speaker 3: with a great you know, uh, you know, coaching, he
23:22
Speaker 3: could have he could have been something great.
23:24
Speaker 1: And Okay, on one last thing I want to add,
23:28
Speaker 1: can the Chiefs get away from the smaller prototypical speed receivers. Yes,
23:33
Speaker 1: I know they hit on Tyreek Hill, but they that's
23:36
Speaker 1: a bad that's a one of one. Like the only
23:40
Speaker 1: reason he fail I think it was to the sixth round.
23:42
Speaker 1: They're chasing Tyreek Hill, That's what they're chasing, and it's
23:49
Speaker 1: just you're not going to find another Tyreek Hill. And okay,
23:53
Speaker 1: I want to say this.
23:54
Speaker 2: I think it's sorry you think it's Andy Reid chasing
23:58
Speaker 2: to Shawn Jackson and the Tyreek Hill.
23:59
Speaker 1: Mold O, that's a that's what I think. And Okay,
24:02
Speaker 1: let me say this, what was Andy Reid's not before
24:05
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes got there. It was his play calling and
24:08
Speaker 1: it was as far as undisciplined teams. And I'm just saying.
24:13
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Andy Reid is a bad coach by
24:15
Speaker 1: any standards, but I kind of think now, like looking
24:19
Speaker 1: at this afterwards, was Mahomes kind of covering that up
24:23
Speaker 1: for whenever? Whenever those teams are right there, and now
24:26
Speaker 1: that this team is not as talented as it was
24:29
Speaker 1: the past three years, now you're starting to see, Okay,
24:33
Speaker 1: well the Chiefs, what did they have over ten plus
24:35
Speaker 1: penalties this game? So it's just they're not as disciplined.
24:40
Speaker 1: And now Mahomes he has to be damn near perfect.
24:43
Speaker 1: Like this is the first time Mahomes has lost when
24:46
Speaker 1: he has a pass rating over one hundred and twenty five.
24:49
Speaker 2: Dude. See, that's that's what I'm saying. I Mahomes is
24:53
Speaker 2: playing the best he possibly can, Like I don't last dude,
24:57
Speaker 2: You're you're asking Superman to come out for three straight
25:01
Speaker 2: seasons already, Like he's having to put the team on
25:04
Speaker 2: his back, game in and game out. Like, it's not
25:07
Speaker 2: that Andy Reid is a great coach in the NFL.
25:10
Speaker 2: He has always been a good coach, always been a
25:12
Speaker 2: good coach. But like I got into this argument because
25:14
Speaker 2: someone was trying to say Andy Reid is the reason
25:17
Speaker 2: Andrey didn't win a down Super Bowl till Patrick Mahomes
25:20
Speaker 2: showed up to Kansas City, so he didn't win a
25:22
Speaker 2: downce Sper Bowl with Donovu, Knapp, Michael Vick, Alex Smith,
25:25
Speaker 2: all guys with high draft capital, three of them being
25:28
Speaker 2: number one over two of them being number one overall
25:30
Speaker 2: draft picks. No, it wasn't until number fifteen showed up.
25:34
Speaker 2: We need to fill number fifteen with actual weapons. And
25:37
Speaker 2: like you said, we're chasing the mold. That's what's annoying me.
25:40
Speaker 2: That's why I wanted Xavier to get so bad because
25:42
Speaker 2: he was different from what we usually have. And then
25:45
Speaker 2: when we ended up drafting xaber Worthy, who I did
25:48
Speaker 2: say I did not want, and like I wanted, I'd
25:50
Speaker 2: rather have Ada Ni Mitchell. I'd rather would have wanted
25:52
Speaker 2: to have Ada Ni Mitchell over xaber Worthy because I,
25:55
Speaker 2: like you said, we were chasing that mold over and
25:58
Speaker 2: over again, and you look at who our best received is,
26:00
Speaker 2: someone that's not even in that mold. It's Rice. Rice
26:03
Speaker 2: is literally just give me the ball and I'm gonna
26:05
Speaker 2: make something happen, you know. And then as far as
26:07
Speaker 2: on the outside, sky Moore, you know who he was
26:10
Speaker 2: drafted over, and they actually traded back for him, George Pickens.
26:15
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's like bro Like, whenever that take happened,
26:24
Speaker 3: I was like, no way in Joshua's defaming with this life.
26:28
Speaker 3: What I understand.
26:29
Speaker 2: I want sky Moore to see.
26:32
Speaker 3: I get it, I get it. But I remember at
26:34
Speaker 3: the time, I was like, I thought it was a
26:37
Speaker 3: horrible pick.
26:39
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just constantly chasing, like even even Jalen
26:44
Speaker 2: Royals this year, Like there was constantly times where you
26:46
Speaker 2: could have drafted a big receipt like Tory Wharton fell
26:49
Speaker 2: a couple like.
26:50
Speaker 3: Films, you know, Williams for sure, Like there were.
26:55
Speaker 2: A couple of players they just keep chasing that same mold,
26:58
Speaker 2: and I just don't think it's gonna happen.
27:00
Speaker 3: Somebody in this class. There's there's quite a few.
27:04
Speaker 2: You know who I want, you know who I want,
27:05
Speaker 2: and I don't want to leave the draft without that name. Okay,
27:08
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the draft without that name.
27:10
Speaker 5: If I'm not going to Yes, he will about you
27:18
Speaker 5: said that about Josh, and look what happened.
27:20
Speaker 2: He will know.
27:21
Speaker 3: Maybe I should keep my mouth shut. Bro oh man.
27:26
Speaker 1: Ship all right, Well, let's go to move on to
27:30
Speaker 1: this next game. Just shout out to Dak Prescott one
27:33
Speaker 1: last time, just out playing Mahomes. I did text Josh
27:37
Speaker 1: that before Breckon, I texted, I put it, I put
27:40
Speaker 1: in quotes, I put in quotes. Dak Prescott outduls Mahomes
27:44
Speaker 1: in a shootout. I texted him exactly that, and he said,
27:47
Speaker 1: not gonna have dude.
27:48
Speaker 2: Rice needs to hold onto that third down. And Travis,
27:51
Speaker 2: what's crazy?
27:53
Speaker 1: She had a great game and he was the third
27:55
Speaker 1: best receiver on the field that day.
27:59
Speaker 2: He was the third day is number two?
28:05
Speaker 3: No pod, the pod doesn't know. But in the group chat,
28:11
Speaker 3: I am a George Pickens fan. Alfonso is icorous, bro.
28:15
Speaker 3: He is touching the sun with wax wings right now.
28:20
Speaker 3: He has never been more high in his life on
28:23
Speaker 3: the Cowboys and on George Pickens. Then I'm a George Pickens.
28:26
Speaker 1: Guy him George Pickens.
28:28
Speaker 3: Yes, oh my, I.
28:31
Speaker 2: Love George had a better game than George Pickens, and he.
28:34
Speaker 3: Did you know what?
28:35
Speaker 1: Who made who stilled the game? Who made the biggest completion,
28:41
Speaker 1: Who made the biggest completion? Who almost hurtled a six
28:44
Speaker 1: ft dude's.
28:48
Speaker 3: Touchdown was by the way.
28:52
Speaker 6: So yes, you guys, you're talking about the fucking Chiefs
29:00
Speaker 6: and about how ship Chris Jones is for thirty minutes,
29:03
Speaker 6: Let's go into the Saints.
29:04
Speaker 2: Baby, going to the game.
29:07
Speaker 3: We're not going to We're not going to get a
29:10
Speaker 3: better draft pick.
29:12
Speaker 1: The bragging rights for the next The Chiefs.
29:16
Speaker 2: Are the Chiefs missing the playoffs this year?
29:17
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm so scared they're losing the Houston next week.
29:27
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm saying that right now.
29:29
Speaker 2: This is the type of game they bounce back with.
29:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, just defense in the league and without
29:34
Speaker 1: Josh Simmons and Trey Smith may not play, Okay.
29:37
Speaker 2: It just sounds like another week may not the high
29:42
Speaker 2: and little ankles brain bro.
29:47
Speaker 3: Forever? Yeah, how has been out? I feel like he's
29:52
Speaker 3: been out for like five weeks already.
29:54
Speaker 2: Been out one week breaking? Yeah he played again, Bro,
29:59
Speaker 2: he got ruled out.
30:01
Speaker 3: Am I thinking on the Cowboys, don't the Cowboys have
30:03
Speaker 3: a lineman named Tree Smith.
30:06
Speaker 1: Smith, Tyler Smiler Smith.
30:08
Speaker 3: Shout out to Tyler, Cowboys.
30:09
Speaker 2: You should just know what's Tyler?
30:11
Speaker 1: Like, just it's Tyler, Tyler Tyler.
30:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:15
Speaker 1: Now, but well, all right, let's move on to the
30:17
Speaker 1: next game. It was thirty minutes and all right, so
30:21
Speaker 1: let's get to the number one thing about that game.
30:25
Speaker 1: Spears versus the Philadelphia Eagles win twenty four fifteen against
30:31
Speaker 1: the Eagles Eagles two game losing streak.
30:34
Speaker 2: Y'all go first, and hey, Fonzo, who would have thought?
30:37
Speaker 2: Who would have look at us?
30:39
Speaker 1: Look a look at us, baby, baby, baby, Well, all
30:44
Speaker 1: of y'all.
30:44
Speaker 2: Were talking on Caleb Williams, Lon Romo, Dune Day, Ryan
30:49
Speaker 2: was hating on DeAndre Swift. We knew, we believe, we
30:54
Speaker 2: knew this. We believed, you.
30:56
Speaker 3: Know, baby, we knew. The guys that you just name
30:58
Speaker 3: did not have I mean, had a good game.
31:01
Speaker 2: But everybody else having the best year of his career
31:04
Speaker 2: this year.
31:05
Speaker 1: What do you mean you Let me tell you this, Breckon,
31:08
Speaker 1: let me tell you this. Caleb's Caleb boyans just top
31:10
Speaker 1: five and MVP. That's That's all I'm gonna say. No
31:14
Speaker 1: way is he actually, yes, he actually is. I checked that.
31:17
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, he's stopped five.
31:20
Speaker 3: He moves up to talk.
31:21
Speaker 2: Doomsday is such an X factor that everybody else eats
31:26
Speaker 2: because they're double teaming him.
31:28
Speaker 3: You're so right. The stats don't tell the story with Rome.
31:33
Speaker 2: They really don't. Bro No, literally they don't.
31:36
Speaker 3: They literally don't. They don't, but they do. They do though.
31:42
Speaker 2: Hey, it's funny how Chris Olave has never been this
31:44
Speaker 2: high in rankings before. So that's all I'm saying is better.
31:49
Speaker 1: He's not better than he is.
31:52
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to get into it.
31:54
Speaker 3: He is better.
31:56
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well has he ever been nine and three?
32:03
Speaker 3: No?
32:04
Speaker 2: All right then, but yeah, shoutouts and like the Eagles
32:11
Speaker 2: downfall is happening now too, losses in a row, you know,
32:16
Speaker 2: but I hate the Eagles, but you know, give it
32:20
Speaker 2: up to Kayler Williams. Didn't have too much of a
32:22
Speaker 2: great statistical day. But when you can just have that
32:25
Speaker 2: two headed monster in the backfield like you do, Kyle mcnong,
32:29
Speaker 2: guy DeAndre Swift, just give them the damn ball, and
32:35
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't know, maybe they exposed the
32:37
Speaker 2: weakness Philadelphia Eagles maybe they're not that good against the run.
32:40
Speaker 2: They've struggled a couple couple times this season against the run.
32:43
Speaker 2: And I do think one major problem Philadelphia Eagles. Why
32:47
Speaker 2: is Saquon playing so bad right now? It's because I
32:51
Speaker 2: just feel like the new offensive coordinator has hurt this
32:54
Speaker 2: offense at times quite a bit, and they're trying I
32:57
Speaker 2: think what the problem is. They're trying to get Jalen
32:59
Speaker 2: Hurts to get into these freaking duels with other quarterbacks
33:05
Speaker 2: and it's so it's cost them and they's won them
33:07
Speaker 2: a couple of games this season.
33:12
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean I really thought Saquon was gonna
33:17
Speaker 3: eat this game because the Bears were missing literally their
33:20
Speaker 3: whole entire linebacking corps, and so going into this game,
33:24
Speaker 3: I was like, Bro, Saquon's gonna have another one of
33:27
Speaker 3: those games. I would take the plush yards, you know,
33:31
Speaker 3: I really thought that Sakon was gonna eat and he
33:33
Speaker 3: just did it. Dude. Granted, he didn't get a whole
33:35
Speaker 3: lot of opportunities, but even with the ones that he got,
33:38
Speaker 3: he didn't look like like he didn't look like kulkwon,
33:42
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, like he's getting tackled
33:45
Speaker 3: in the backfield and stuff. It just doesn't make sense.
33:47
Speaker 3: And then like A J. Brown, stop bitching. This is
33:51
Speaker 3: this is three games in a row. Yeah, where you're
33:54
Speaker 3: getting fucking fed. So I don't want to see you
33:56
Speaker 3: complaining not a razing game.
33:58
Speaker 7: And he complained, Dude, it doesn't It doesn't make sense
34:03
Speaker 7: to me, Like like the rich can only get so
34:07
Speaker 7: much richer, you know what I'm saying, Like hurts like he.
34:12
Speaker 3: Didn't play out standing, but he had a me game.
34:15
Speaker 3: It really just came down to this Bears offense and
34:18
Speaker 3: this team. They they're just playing like together and they
34:22
Speaker 3: look like they like each other. I feel like these
34:24
Speaker 3: teams are similar right going into this game, these teams
34:28
Speaker 3: are similar. Maybe I'd even give the edge to the
34:30
Speaker 3: Eagles a little bit, but you watch the game, you
34:34
Speaker 3: can tell everybody on the Bears like each other, and
34:38
Speaker 3: everybody on the Eagles does not fuck with each other.
34:41
Speaker 3: That's why the Bears are able to walk up as
34:43
Speaker 3: a group, punch you in the fucking mouth, and rush
34:46
Speaker 3: for two hundred and seventy plus yards on one of
34:48
Speaker 3: the best defensive lines in the NFL, while the Eagles
34:55
Speaker 3: with one of the best running backs. We've ever seen
34:59
Speaker 3: do fucking book with him. You know what I'm saying.
35:01
Speaker 3: It was just the power of friendship, I guess you
35:04
Speaker 3: could say, and the Pope and the Pope. I need
35:07
Speaker 3: to bring that up as soon as the.
35:08
Speaker 1: Pope, as soon as the pope comes in nine and three.
35:11
Speaker 3: I'm just saying nine and three top of the NFC.
35:15
Speaker 2: Man, he's been the pope the whole season.
35:18
Speaker 1: No, I'm no, I'm just saying now, like like now
35:21
Speaker 1: that the popes like, there's an.
35:23
Speaker 2: American pope this outide.
35:26
Speaker 3: This is eight wins in a row, isn't it. Yeah,
35:29
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. No, they're on such a seven
35:33
Speaker 3: such a run, such a run. Is their schedule easy
35:36
Speaker 3: coming up to? I don't know.
35:37
Speaker 2: They got a rough They got a rough, thank you,
35:40
Speaker 2: thank you.
35:40
Speaker 3: They got Packers twice, Bears, Niners, Lions.
35:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a rough, Browns, I mean, yeah, they Yeah,
35:50
Speaker 1: it's rough. But I'll say this like you were saying
35:53
Speaker 1: the Bears. They have one of the best offensive lines
35:56
Speaker 1: in football, and that's credit to Ben Johnson and him
35:59
Speaker 1: being able to ski up everything. And yes, Ketill Williams
36:02
Speaker 1: he didn't have the best day, but at the end
36:05
Speaker 1: of the day, whenever you have a run game this good,
36:08
Speaker 1: you really don't need a quarterback to do that much.
36:11
Speaker 1: You don't, and it was and it was kind of
36:14
Speaker 1: a real bad day to throw the football in all honesty.
36:17
Speaker 1: That's why both quarterbacks their completion percentage really look bad.
36:20
Speaker 1: But I want to focus on the Eagles here, their offense.
36:24
Speaker 1: I feel like their stats are finally catching up to
36:28
Speaker 1: how bad the offense is playing. So let me read
36:31
Speaker 1: their rankings. Points per game nineteenth, total yards per game,
36:34
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, passing yards per game twenty third, rushing yards
36:38
Speaker 1: per game twenty second, third down percentage twenty eight, percentage
36:42
Speaker 1: of drives anyone with a punt that's tied for thirtieth
36:45
Speaker 1: and three and out percentage one out of or every
36:48
Speaker 1: three drives. There's a three and out from the Philadelphia
36:51
Speaker 1: Eagles and Saquon Barkley. Like you were saying this at
36:54
Speaker 1: this point, it's thirteen games that have been played for
36:58
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Saquon sixty one yards per game, that's eighteenth,
37:02
Speaker 1: or rushing yards per carry three point seven, that's fortieth
37:05
Speaker 1: ten plus yards run or ten plus yards runs seventeenth,
37:09
Speaker 1: that's twenty seventh twenty plus yard runs he only has
37:13
Speaker 1: two and rushing touchdowns four, you know, as far as
37:17
Speaker 1: like ten plus yards per rush. Patrick Mahomes has more
37:22
Speaker 1: than Sakuon Barkley this year. So that shows you everything
37:26
Speaker 1: you need to know about the Philadelphia Eagles offense. And
37:30
Speaker 1: I think last year they were had such a historic
37:34
Speaker 1: offensive line and just with Saquon Barkley, now you could
37:37
Speaker 1: you don't have to focus or eight man box on
37:42
Speaker 1: the run game. So that's why Jalen Hurts is struggling.
37:45
Speaker 1: That's why there's nothing really going from this passing offense.
37:48
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, I don't know if y'all agree.
37:51
Speaker 1: I feel like Nick Siriani, if he doesn't have a
37:54
Speaker 1: great oc next to him, this offense always struggles. Like
37:59
Speaker 1: look at Frank Frank, right, Kellen Moore, even though I
38:02
Speaker 1: don't like Kellen Moore, you got a head coaching job.
38:04
Speaker 1: And then what was the one before Shane Steichen. So
38:08
Speaker 1: all of these guys went on to become head coaches.
38:11
Speaker 1: They wanted to become head coaches.
38:14
Speaker 3: I'm looking right now because I was curious Saquon's season
38:19
Speaker 3: because before the pod, we're talking about what's going on
38:22
Speaker 3: with gent is is it him or is it just
38:25
Speaker 3: genuinely this team is so shit. Yeah, look at them
38:29
Speaker 3: game per game next to each other. They look just
38:33
Speaker 3: about identical, which is insane. WO, which is insane. We're
38:37
Speaker 3: talking Saquon generational athlete, generational, so so is Genty. But
38:43
Speaker 3: Saquon just ran for two thousand yards and you know
38:48
Speaker 3: it was behind one of the best st lines. Genty
38:51
Speaker 3: is behind, hands down, probably the worst rushing offensive line
38:55
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life, and and he's doing
38:59
Speaker 3: justice good. Yeah, And it's just that's so disgusting.
39:08
Speaker 1: I just I just want to say this. The Eagles
39:12
Speaker 1: they should still make the playoffs, but they have two
39:14
Speaker 1: more tough games against the Chargers and the Bills coming up,
39:18
Speaker 1: and if they lose those two games right there, they
39:22
Speaker 1: could go from having one of the best records in
39:24
Speaker 1: the NFC to potentially missing the playoffs. And those are
39:28
Speaker 1: games that they could really lose, Like there's a realistic
39:31
Speaker 1: shot that they could lose those games right there because
39:34
Speaker 1: of how stacked the NFC is, that they'll miss the
39:37
Speaker 1: playoffs completely. So and I think it's too late at
39:41
Speaker 1: this point to say this offense can be fixed. If
39:44
Speaker 1: there hasn't been no sign of it being like patched up.
39:49
Speaker 1: Then it's too late. At this point. Defenses are only
39:51
Speaker 1: getting better at this point. Other offenses they're getting better.
39:55
Speaker 1: So I think I think the Eagles are done. Even
39:59
Speaker 1: if they make the play off. They're one and done
40:01
Speaker 1: in my opinion. That that's how I view them. But Josh,
40:05
Speaker 1: do you have anything from this one?
40:08
Speaker 2: I got it, old doc, All right, where should we
40:12
Speaker 2: go to next?
40:13
Speaker 3: M HM?
40:15
Speaker 1: Which let's go. Let's go to the Packers and Lions
40:21
Speaker 1: right here.
40:22
Speaker 3: We're not gonna talk about the vikings in the Seahawks
40:27
Speaker 3: Lions whatever. I kind of seen that coming a mile away.
40:30
Speaker 3: In my opinion, you.
40:31
Speaker 2: Did four interceptions, dude, look better than nine.
40:39
Speaker 3: Max Broseman, I wrote, I wrote in my notes, I wrote,
40:43
Speaker 3: Max Brozeman processes plays just as fast as old people fuck,
40:52
Speaker 3: and it's putting damn slow.
40:56
Speaker 2: I'm not talk enough about that one.
40:59
Speaker 3: Max throw a dig and I was like, Oh, he
41:03
Speaker 3: might be it. He might be it. No, he was
41:05
Speaker 3: not it. He had more completions to the defense than
41:08
Speaker 3: he did to j Jettis.
41:11
Speaker 1: Shout out to the wide receiver Legacy game of JSN
41:14
Speaker 1: and Justin Jefferson.
41:16
Speaker 3: Well, no, no, I was going to bring that up. JSN.
41:20
Speaker 3: You can hate on him not putting up stats in
41:22
Speaker 3: this game. I think that the Seahawks just did what
41:24
Speaker 3: they had to do to win because the Vikings were
41:27
Speaker 3: blitzing so much.
41:30
Speaker 2: K had a good defensive game plan.
41:32
Speaker 1: They did, Yeah, they did.
41:32
Speaker 3: They had an amazing defensive game. They just couldn't hold
41:35
Speaker 3: up for that long.
41:36
Speaker 2: They didn't shut him out for like a good day.
41:38
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, the beginning of that game. I watched
41:40
Speaker 2: it because I want to see if Max Brozman would
41:42
Speaker 2: be like a new Kirk Cousins or something like that,
41:44
Speaker 2: where he comes in, you know, takes over. But he didn't.
41:48
Speaker 2: But the Brian Floores did really game plan very well
41:51
Speaker 2: for the Seattle Seahawks.
41:52
Speaker 1: I mean, jays N was bound to have a bad game.
41:56
Speaker 1: I mean, but I just think he's not going to
41:58
Speaker 1: be on pace for two k.
42:00
Speaker 3: No more so.
42:02
Speaker 1: I mean, he's still gonna reach I think the seventeen
42:04
Speaker 1: hundred mark for sure, but yeah, no, definitely not the
42:07
Speaker 1: two k mark. But okay, well, I just want to
42:12
Speaker 1: ask about this one right here, because they were the
42:14
Speaker 1: number one seed and both teams that we thought that
42:18
Speaker 1: were highly projected Eagles, we see them struggling and now
42:21
Speaker 1: the Rams. Yesterday they lost to the Panthers. Bryce Young
42:25
Speaker 1: finally had a great game from start to finish against
42:28
Speaker 1: a great team. They won thirty one to twenty eight.
42:31
Speaker 1: So is there any concerns about the Rams here or
42:33
Speaker 1: is this more about the Panthers.
42:36
Speaker 2: I want to say this is more about the Panthers.
42:38
Speaker 2: I do think that they went with the game plan
42:41
Speaker 2: of playing like a split backfield and I think it
42:43
Speaker 2: worked out to their favorite getting Tuba involved. Tuba had
42:46
Speaker 2: a really good game. I think seventeen for eighty three
42:48
Speaker 2: like he was very efficient too, for forty one in
42:50
Speaker 2: a touchdown, like he did it all. And as far
42:52
Speaker 2: as we go, dabdo, they didn't straight away from the
42:55
Speaker 2: run game at all. They ran this forty times in
42:58
Speaker 2: this one game. I mean Bryce Young out the pocket
43:00
Speaker 2: a couple of times, did his own thing. But still,
43:03
Speaker 2: when you're able to take a lot of pressure away
43:05
Speaker 2: from Bryce Young into not having him create a lot
43:08
Speaker 2: of opportunity for himself and put the ball literally into
43:11
Speaker 2: your two running backs hands, who is should be a
43:14
Speaker 2: one A and a one B type of situation When
43:16
Speaker 2: they did that in this game. It really worked out
43:18
Speaker 2: well for the Carolina Panthers offense as a whole. I mean,
43:22
Speaker 2: we saw Jalen Kocher finally start to get a little
43:24
Speaker 2: bit more burn. He's been a my guy for a
43:26
Speaker 2: little bit. You know, been trying to trade trade for
43:28
Speaker 2: him all year, got him in one Dynasty League. But
43:30
Speaker 2: you know, you're it creates more opportunity for the other
43:34
Speaker 2: guys on the offense because when you have to worry
43:36
Speaker 2: about the two guys in the backfield the other the
43:39
Speaker 2: other guys are gonna eat. And Bryce Young was able
43:41
Speaker 2: to deliver the ball when he needed to. Tim McMillan
43:42
Speaker 2: had a really big touchdown. It was the only catch
43:44
Speaker 2: of the game, but still like he was able to
43:47
Speaker 2: create big plays out from the passing offense when they
43:50
Speaker 2: were needed, and it really showed up in this win
43:53
Speaker 2: against the Los Angeles Rams. And as far as j C. Horn, like,
43:56
Speaker 2: I don't think he gets enough love. I think j C.
43:59
Speaker 2: Horn has really league. I don't think jac Horn gets
44:05
Speaker 2: enough love because he's been really shut down over the
44:07
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. I do think that I've drawing
44:10
Speaker 2: the match versus pokin a coua you can only do
44:12
Speaker 2: so much to slow down pookin Akua. But six ver
44:15
Speaker 2: seventy two this season is really slowing down poking Akua.
44:18
Speaker 2: And then last week getting two interceptions. So he's had
44:22
Speaker 2: a really good Yeah, he's had a really good back
44:25
Speaker 2: to back weeks for the for the Carolina Panthers defense.
44:29
Speaker 3: No, I want to talk about this game because I
44:31
Speaker 3: was so excited the Panthers play the game exactly he left.
44:39
Speaker 3: The Panthers played this game exactly as you're supposed to
44:43
Speaker 3: in order to win against the number one seed in
44:46
Speaker 3: the NFL. I mean, they ran the ball, like Jos said,
44:49
Speaker 3: forty times, that's a lot, and they have the two
44:53
Speaker 3: running backs in the backfield, and they they really just
44:55
Speaker 3: got the explosives on the pass plays. That's that's really
44:58
Speaker 3: what it was. Like Bryce Young didn't have a lot
45:01
Speaker 3: of completions, a lot of yards, but like his yards
45:04
Speaker 3: per completion was insanely deep and they were for touchdowns.
45:07
Speaker 3: So that's all that really matters at the end of
45:09
Speaker 3: the day. And then also they won the turnover battle.
45:11
Speaker 3: They got three tournerovers. Derek Brown like he's gonna be
45:15
Speaker 3: my so called MVP of the week. I'm already calling it.
45:17
Speaker 3: He calls all three of those turnovers.
45:19
Speaker 2: With you know, illumine a whole segment from our podcast.
45:22
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, he's my so called ABP of the week.
45:25
Speaker 3: If you don't listened to the end of the pod,
45:27
Speaker 3: I'm letting you know now this is this is who
45:29
Speaker 3: it's gonna be. He went absolutely insane. He was this defense.
45:33
Speaker 3: They were missing so many guys on the back end,
45:35
Speaker 3: they were missing one of their linebackers, and the Panthers
45:38
Speaker 3: still showed up. I fucking hate the Panthers, but I
45:43
Speaker 3: do really like Bryce Young and he bought out yesterday, right, yeah, yesterday.
45:48
Speaker 3: It's still I don't know, two days ago. Now it's
45:50
Speaker 3: already midnight. But I mean in Stafford, I mean he
45:54
Speaker 3: didn't really play a bad game. He still played really
45:57
Speaker 3: good after that. Like I mean the strip sack fumble, Yes,
46:00
Speaker 3: that's unfortunate, the tipped paths for an interception. Also, it
46:05
Speaker 3: was a bad weather game. I typically say that the
46:08
Speaker 3: bad teams win the bad weather games. You know, it
46:11
Speaker 3: happened to the to the Bears a couple of years
46:13
Speaker 3: ago with Justin Fields whenever they had that huge upset.
46:16
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I feel like that's that's just
46:20
Speaker 3: how the cookie crumbles. And man, the Panthers have a
46:24
Speaker 3: good shot at winning this division, which has kind of insane.
46:28
Speaker 3: You know, if you were saying that three weeks ago,
46:29
Speaker 3: you've been like fucking away.
46:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think they played Tampa Bay coming up.
46:35
Speaker 1: I think they have twice. Yeah, they can play twice.
46:38
Speaker 1: And Okay, I just want to list his quote of
46:40
Speaker 1: Dave Canalis. He said this after the game. He said,
46:43
Speaker 1: we have seen the Rams best football, and they've been
46:46
Speaker 1: playing amazing and yet no one has seen us play
46:50
Speaker 1: our best yet.
46:51
Speaker 3: So the Saints beat them, to give you an idea,
46:54
Speaker 3: that Saints beat the Panthers.
46:56
Speaker 1: So so I'm just saying, I'm just saying this Panthers
47:00
Speaker 1: team at first, whenever the Cowboys lost to them, then
47:03
Speaker 1: the Packers they lost to them, It's like, how can
47:06
Speaker 1: you lose to the Panthers. No, they're a legit team.
47:09
Speaker 1: They're a very legit team. And if Bryce Young happens
47:12
Speaker 1: to show up that day, this team they could actually
47:16
Speaker 1: knock off playoff teams right here. And I think one
47:19
Speaker 1: thing that the Panthers they did, they showed up the
47:22
Speaker 1: run game. You cannot run on the Rams. I know,
47:25
Speaker 1: twenty one for one two, but it was mostly just
47:28
Speaker 1: a big play from Korum in this one. But you
47:30
Speaker 1: usually don't get the big running, explosive plays on the Rams.
47:35
Speaker 1: I mean on the Panthers, and you have JC Horn there,
47:38
Speaker 1: So this defense, I kind of view them in the
47:40
Speaker 1: same boat as the Cowboys, but maybe a little bit better.
47:45
Speaker 1: They've been more consistent up to this point. Well, I
47:49
Speaker 1: would just say they're a little bit more consistent the
47:52
Speaker 1: Panthers some start to finish, So I'll just say this
47:56
Speaker 1: the Panthers, I don't know. It's just Bryce Young. If
47:58
Speaker 1: he could show up like this, If we can see
48:00
Speaker 1: Bryce Young play football like this every single week, and
48:03
Speaker 1: this was against the hottest team in the league up
48:05
Speaker 1: to this point, if he could play up against this team,
48:09
Speaker 1: then as crazy as it sounds, they could be NFC
48:14
Speaker 1: Championship material because they can run the ball, they have weapons,
48:18
Speaker 1: they have a good enough defense. So I think this
48:22
Speaker 1: is just all depending on what Bryce Young he does
48:25
Speaker 1: from this point forward, in my opinion. But as far
48:28
Speaker 1: as the Rams, is there any concerns now from the
48:32
Speaker 1: Rams because I'll say this, there's always teams that get
48:36
Speaker 1: hot in the middle of the season and then they
48:38
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They're still a good team, but maybe
48:41
Speaker 1: they don't streak off like into the playoffs as well.
48:44
Speaker 1: And you know, it's all about going into the playoffs hot.
48:48
Speaker 1: So what do y'all think.
48:50
Speaker 3: I'm not worried at all for the Rams. I was
48:52
Speaker 3: going to bring up one other segment for the Panthers. Okay,
48:56
Speaker 3: this is their first time being five hundred at this
49:00
Speaker 3: point in the season in over eight years. Oh shoot,
49:04
Speaker 3: since the Cam Newton MVP. They haven't been five hundred
49:07
Speaker 3: above five hundred in Week thirteen.
49:10
Speaker 1: No way, for real.
49:12
Speaker 3: It makes you think, dude, they're so shit, They're so bad.
49:17
Speaker 2: That's timeline sounds really off.
49:19
Speaker 3: I think it was like twenty eighteen or like twenty
49:21
Speaker 3: seventeen was the last time that by week thirteen they.
49:24
Speaker 1: Were above five like twenty years ago, by fifteen Cam Newton.
49:29
Speaker 3: No, I said, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
49:31
Speaker 2: No, but you said, you said it's been eight years,
49:37
Speaker 2: eight years.
49:37
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Cam Newton won his MVP in
49:39
Speaker 1: twenty six.
49:40
Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen.
49:41
Speaker 1: Are I tripping?
49:43
Speaker 2: Yeah?
49:44
Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen, Yeah, because only because I was thinking of
49:52
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook winning the MVP in twenty seventeen. Trouble level,
49:58
Speaker 3: dude always does this.
50:01
Speaker 1: Happens to bring up Russell Westbick, Devin, But all right.
50:07
Speaker 3: It was Tom in twenty seventeen. You guys are right,
50:09
Speaker 3: it was twenty fifteen. But it's been since twenty seventeen
50:13
Speaker 3: that they were above five hundred By week thirteen.
50:15
Speaker 2: I was like so confused. I'm like, dude, it's been
50:19
Speaker 2: like the MVP has been dominated by Aaron Rodgers and
50:22
Speaker 2: Mahomes and Lamar Jackson over the last like eight years.
50:27
Speaker 2: I was like, what, like, Drake, No, But I'm not
50:33
Speaker 2: necessarily worried about the Rams themselves. I'm just more worried
50:38
Speaker 2: because the competition in NFC is just so stacked. Like
50:41
Speaker 2: I do think that there's gonna be a really good
50:44
Speaker 2: team that gets knocked off early. And I'm sure we're
50:46
Speaker 2: gonna talk about one of those teams here in a
50:47
Speaker 2: minute that's not even in the playoffs right now, who
50:50
Speaker 2: we thought was probably the super Bowl favorite, one of
50:52
Speaker 2: the super Bowl favorites, if not the super Bowl favorite,
50:54
Speaker 2: and the Detroit Lions. So I'm more worried about them
50:57
Speaker 2: than I am about the Los Angeles Rams right now.
51:00
Speaker 1: Well, reckon any other things?
51:03
Speaker 3: No, I think I agree completely.
51:06
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, like you were saying about this one, let's
51:09
Speaker 1: talk about it very briefly. Packers and Lions right here.
51:12
Speaker 1: So the Lions very banged up in this one, so
51:16
Speaker 1: almost almost come back in this one, but the Packers
51:18
Speaker 1: they seal the deal. Jordan love Ford tutters in this
51:21
Speaker 1: one thirty one to twenty four. So are you so
51:25
Speaker 1: are the Lions going to miss the playoffs?
51:27
Speaker 3: Here?
51:27
Speaker 2: Josh, dude, I might have to say them, Them and
51:32
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are in the struggle bus right now.
51:34
Speaker 3: I do.
51:35
Speaker 2: But the thing is with the Detroit Lions. Almen Row
51:40
Speaker 2: did not play, did not practice today, and they played
51:45
Speaker 2: on Thursday versus the Dallas Cowboys, and Terry Arnold just
51:48
Speaker 2: went on ir. So they're missing two major pieces going
51:53
Speaker 2: into a major game that they need to win. Especially
51:55
Speaker 2: being third in the division right now and losing to
51:58
Speaker 2: a divisional opponent this last week on Thanksgiving. It's not
52:02
Speaker 2: looking very good for the Detroit Lions. And I'm actually
52:05
Speaker 2: pretty worried whether they're gonna be able to pull this
52:07
Speaker 2: off or not, because though Jamiir Gibbs, they haven't it's
52:11
Speaker 2: been a struggle to get this run game going, I
52:13
Speaker 2: think over the last couple weeks if it's not some
52:15
Speaker 2: major big plays. I know Jamier Gibbs had that big
52:17
Speaker 2: game going into overtime a couple weeks ago, but they
52:19
Speaker 2: shouldn't even have been in overtime with the game. It
52:23
Speaker 2: should have been a clear win for the Detroit Lions.
52:26
Speaker 2: And they're playing these games very tight versus a bunch
52:28
Speaker 2: of teams they should be beating handily, and it's just
52:32
Speaker 2: not looking good for them right now, especially with these
52:35
Speaker 2: major injuries. Going against the Dallas Cowboys who are red
52:37
Speaker 2: hot and missing your cornerback, cornerback one versus these guys.
52:43
Speaker 2: How they're playing right now, is it's not good for
52:46
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions.
52:49
Speaker 3: Reckon, Yeah, No, I mean I agree completely. They just
52:52
Speaker 3: it's been the story for the Lions last two seasons.
52:55
Speaker 3: It's like they're so good and so talented and then
52:59
Speaker 3: just these big names or just the whole entire group
53:02
Speaker 3: just gets injured and it almost like derails their season.
53:06
Speaker 3: And they're they're crawling to the finish line every single time,
53:09
Speaker 3: and you can't do that. Once you make the playoffs,
53:12
Speaker 3: you know you want to be a team that's got depth.
53:14
Speaker 3: And you know, once you guys make the playoffs, you're
53:16
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. You know, that's what you look for.
53:18
Speaker 3: And I don't think that they'll make the playoffs just
53:21
Speaker 3: because how competitive this division is. And I mean, Michah
53:24
Speaker 3: Parsons has this masterclass game. I think it was like
53:27
Speaker 3: what like three sacks, three and a half shacks or
53:29
Speaker 3: something like that and a half?
53:32
Speaker 2: He is he DPO why this year?
53:35
Speaker 1: No Miles Caro, Miles Miles good was, but Mike is
53:39
Speaker 1: having a record here. But Miles Miles Garrett's gonna get
53:42
Speaker 1: twenty five snacks this year, break the record.
53:46
Speaker 2: But there's also the like impact and winning, Like I
53:51
Speaker 2: don't know, I feel like it's not as much for
53:53
Speaker 2: DPO why as it is for MVP, like impact of winning.
53:56
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like there's a narrative. There's
53:58
Speaker 2: still a narrative with Michael park Since.
54:01
Speaker 1: Like the narrative like he's gonna be top three, he's
54:04
Speaker 1: gonna give votes. Again, does Miles Garrett just is Miles Garrett?
54:08
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I know, Miles Garret is the best
54:10
Speaker 2: defender in the NFL. I'm just saying, like I feel
54:12
Speaker 2: like there's still a case for Michael Parsons to win.
54:14
Speaker 3: M VT, Miles Garrett MVT.
54:17
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, he could. If he breaks the record,
54:20
Speaker 1: he should get recognition, he should get top because he's.
54:24
Speaker 3: He's at what right now, we're not arguing.
54:27
Speaker 2: About MVP A game right now breaking We're not gonna
54:29
Speaker 2: start arguing about MVP.
54:31
Speaker 3: Would imagine imagine he breaks the record by like week fifteen.
54:36
Speaker 2: And the Browns are third and fourteen.
54:43
Speaker 3: I mean still, like, what if he ends the year
54:45
Speaker 3: with like twenty eight sacks?
54:47
Speaker 2: That would be And what if Drake May ends the
54:50
Speaker 2: year first in the AFC and doing great, like he's
54:55
Speaker 2: gonna win VP. It don't matter.
54:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be. It'd be a good I think
55:00
Speaker 3: he would get a lot of votes.
55:01
Speaker 2: I don't even think he'd go above Jonathan Taylor.
55:04
Speaker 3: He that's crazy. How's that crazy? Sad?
55:08
Speaker 1: If he has twenty eight Jonathan Taylor, I would say
55:12
Speaker 1: he'd be above Jonathan Taylor.
55:13
Speaker 2: If you had twenty eight, We'll see the voting at
55:16
Speaker 2: the end.
55:17
Speaker 3: I mean, this is all if it's it's hands.
55:20
Speaker 2: And but but okay, just as far as with this game,
55:23
Speaker 2: not even above freaking Sam Donald, Dude, like.
55:27
Speaker 1: Conversation starts this, don't start this, but okay, I just
55:32
Speaker 1: want to talk about Jordan Love apparently on the same
55:34
Speaker 1: level as te Law. Just a side note, apparently.
55:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what that was, Reckon, said Law.
55:41
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to shop.
55:45
Speaker 1: I know, I know where we won't like where.
55:49
Speaker 3: You guys called it so quick. You guys called it
55:52
Speaker 3: so fucking quick.
55:53
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, all right, yeah, and then dude,
55:57
Speaker 2: dude did the other day when Ryan we were have gamiens, Andy,
56:01
Speaker 2: Ryan goes, did you think you were gonna get two
56:03
Speaker 2: first round picks for too long? And he's like, yeah,
56:05
Speaker 2: I know. Like he's like, well I got two first
56:07
Speaker 2: round picks for baba.
56:09
Speaker 1: Yeah.
56:11
Speaker 3: I no.
56:13
Speaker 1: But Jordan Love, if he can play like this on
56:17
Speaker 1: a consistent level. Again, I've always said this, dude is
56:20
Speaker 1: a double agent. If he can play like this consistently, yes, yes, no,
56:25
Speaker 1: for real, he he is up to this point because
56:27
Speaker 1: he could have great games like this, and then he
56:30
Speaker 1: could have such terrible games where it ends up costing
56:33
Speaker 1: the Packers. So it's just if Jordan Love can be
56:37
Speaker 1: consistently he doesn't even have to play this well. If
56:40
Speaker 1: he could just be good, then the Packers should make
56:44
Speaker 1: a championship game.
56:45
Speaker 3: They are they are they like potential super Bowl contenders
56:49
Speaker 3: because once you start thinking about it.
56:50
Speaker 2: They've been a super Bowl contender since.
56:52
Speaker 3: But they're getting healthy. They're getting healthier as the year
56:59
Speaker 3: is ending. They're like the opposite of the Lions, like
57:01
Speaker 3: they're gonna get read back, They're gonna get gold golden back.
57:06
Speaker 3: Maybe you don't think those guys are that impactful, but
57:08
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I don't.
57:11
Speaker 2: I don't think that they moved at all. Like I
57:14
Speaker 2: think ever since Michael Parsons got trades to the Packers,
57:16
Speaker 2: they immediately became the favorite in the NFC. Like I
57:19
Speaker 2: thought that was a given, Like when once that trade
57:22
Speaker 2: was made, I thought it was them where the Lions
57:24
Speaker 2: or the Eagles, like it was between those three. And
57:26
Speaker 2: then as the weeks went on, we saw what Michael
57:29
Speaker 2: Parsons impacted for the defense getting Christian Watson back. They
57:31
Speaker 2: look like a better offense ever since then as well.
57:34
Speaker 2: So I do think that they've been, to know, probably
57:38
Speaker 2: the favorite out of the NFC for the last couple
57:40
Speaker 2: of weeks at least. They were definitely in the conversation
57:43
Speaker 2: the whole season.
57:44
Speaker 1: They're definitely in the conversation. But I'd say still as
57:47
Speaker 1: of right now, I would say the Rams or Seattle.
57:50
Speaker 2: I would yeah, I personally, you know, biasly picked Seattle.
57:55
Speaker 2: But yeah, Seattle's my new Detroit. That's all I'm saying.
58:03
Speaker 2: I was on Detroit before everybody, bro before everybody.
58:08
Speaker 1: Pretty fair, he I lost. There is there is podcast
58:12
Speaker 1: proof of this.
58:14
Speaker 3: There is everybody, oh, bro bro watching.
58:20
Speaker 1: Rookie season equanimious or was it?
58:25
Speaker 3: I remember I played, he was on the Bear I played.
58:29
Speaker 3: I played Madden whenever he was a Bear before he was,
58:33
Speaker 3: and he did really good at my franchise, you know what.
58:40
Speaker 1: Us Okay, Okay, I'm just making sure. I'm just making sure.
58:43
Speaker 3: No sure, b there we go.
58:46
Speaker 1: All right, move him up in the rankings, Josh. But
58:49
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk a little bit of some a
58:51
Speaker 1: f C right here. So I feel like this is
58:53
Speaker 1: a pivotal matchup right here. The Indianapolis Colts, who have
58:56
Speaker 1: now lost two in a row, versus the red hot
59:00
Speaker 1: in Texans. Texans they win twenty to sixteen, and now
59:05
Speaker 1: it's looking like the cold two of the number one
59:06
Speaker 1: seed still have Houston another time, still have Jacksonville two
59:11
Speaker 1: more times.
59:12
Speaker 3: So who's so do you?
59:15
Speaker 1: Who do you think is gonna win this AFC South
59:17
Speaker 1: In all honesty, this is it's all just a one
59:21
Speaker 1: one game. The odds of that, dude, that that is
59:28
Speaker 1: so funny.
59:28
Speaker 2: They are number one oprated, They're still so oprated, Bro,
59:32
Speaker 2: I don't care. They're the most oprated team in the NFL.
59:34
Speaker 2: There they I hate the Jaguars this year, and I
59:39
Speaker 2: know it's weird. I like players on the Jaguars, just
59:41
Speaker 2: something about them. I don't like this year. I think
59:44
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Shane wall I think you know what it is.
59:46
Speaker 2: I own BTJ. Shane Waldron That's why I hate the Jaguars. Yes,
59:50
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, Shane Waldrin. Bro get the ball please, Bro.
59:57
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know what's crazy about I did?
1:00:00
Speaker 2: I only own BTJ in one league when the season started.
1:00:03
Speaker 2: You know I own him in five now. So you
1:00:05
Speaker 2: know that's that's the whole thing.
1:00:09
Speaker 3: You put yourself in this situation, Josh, that's your own fault.
1:00:13
Speaker 1: I know, I just owned BETJ in one league.
1:00:16
Speaker 3: I can only the riding was on the wall, Bro,
1:00:18
Speaker 3: And you're like, let me buy it, let me, let
1:00:20
Speaker 3: me buy no. But so going into this game, I
1:00:24
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys knew Daniel Jones had a
1:00:26
Speaker 3: fractured fibia. Yeah, and I don't know if you've seen
1:00:29
Speaker 3: him getting snaps in practice. I didn't think he was
1:00:31
Speaker 3: gonna play and he ended up playing. Dude ended up playing. Yeah,
1:00:38
Speaker 3: he ended up playing. And I mean that's that's what
1:00:41
Speaker 3: happens whenever you have a broken leg and you're going
1:00:44
Speaker 3: against the best defense in the NFL with some of
1:00:47
Speaker 3: the best edge rushers, like they're gonna wreck the game. Granted,
1:00:51
Speaker 3: I think that they should have leaned way onto Jonathan Taylor,
1:00:54
Speaker 3: Like if your quarterback's got a fucking broken leg, just
1:00:57
Speaker 3: give the running back the ball as much as you can.
1:01:00
Speaker 3: I get that they stopped the run pretty well, but still,
1:01:04
Speaker 3: he's your m v P. I've said this two weeks
1:01:06
Speaker 3: in a row. Now, you know both of the ones
1:01:08
Speaker 3: that they've lost. Give it to your m v P.
1:01:11
Speaker 3: He is your star player. Let him do star player things.
1:01:14
Speaker 3: And I mean C. J. Stroud looked pretty decent in
1:01:18
Speaker 3: his game back. Nothing insane. He didn't throw a touchdown,
1:01:22
Speaker 3: but I mean they didn't necessarily need to. And I mean,
1:01:26
Speaker 3: like we've been saying the Sexans defense looks absolutely insane.
1:01:31
Speaker 3: It's it's they play with so much effort. It's like
1:01:35
Speaker 3: these linebackers are popping you. These guys are getting fined.
1:01:38
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if you told me that they
1:01:40
Speaker 3: are the most fine defense in the NFL, because they
1:01:44
Speaker 3: are fucking lighting people up, bro.
1:01:46
Speaker 2: And I mean as gets suspended, like, yeah, he's like
1:01:54
Speaker 2: the he's.
1:01:54
Speaker 3: Like the guy from Dune as he's a I don't care, bro.
1:02:01
Speaker 3: I love that energy. I love that from a linebacker.
1:02:05
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I mean they just kind of outclassed.
1:02:06
Speaker 3: This is a divisional game and it was a very
1:02:08
Speaker 3: close one. I think if Daniel Jones was one hundred,
1:02:12
Speaker 3: I don't know if this game goes the way that
1:02:15
Speaker 3: it does just because it was so close. But that's
1:02:18
Speaker 3: kind of my thoughts on it.
1:02:20
Speaker 1: So as far as from this game right here, I
1:02:23
Speaker 1: think the Texans well, I think the two Texans Texas
1:02:27
Speaker 1: teams and all honestly won the AFC one in the NFC.
1:02:30
Speaker 1: I don't think any team wants to play them because
1:02:33
Speaker 1: the biggest weakness, it's it's actually the total opposite. The
1:02:37
Speaker 1: biggest thing was the Texans offense and the biggest thing
1:02:40
Speaker 1: was the Cowboys defense, and now both of them kind
1:02:43
Speaker 1: of got things figured out now and now they're kind
1:02:45
Speaker 1: of middle of the pack. And I have a lot
1:02:48
Speaker 1: more stock into the Houston Texans offense and it could
1:02:51
Speaker 1: potentially be top ten with Woody Marx, Nigo Collins, Jaden Higgins,
1:02:56
Speaker 1: and they're starting to show that. So the Texans down
1:03:00
Speaker 1: the stretch, they can win this division and they could
1:03:03
Speaker 1: really mess up things for this entire AFC. And I
1:03:07
Speaker 1: think with this historic of a defense, we talked about
1:03:10
Speaker 1: it with the Bills or against the Bills last week,
1:03:13
Speaker 1: they shut down Josh Allen and any other quarterback in
1:03:16
Speaker 1: the AFC. A bow Knicks Drake Mayhe is playing good,
1:03:20
Speaker 1: but still in the second year, Trevor Lawrence, you have
1:03:23
Speaker 1: those guys at the top. You're really telling me this
1:03:26
Speaker 1: Texans defense can't take over the playoffs for a three
1:03:31
Speaker 1: game stretch, And honestly, just because they're defense alone by themselves,
1:03:36
Speaker 1: and if CJ. Stroud just plays average, this team can
1:03:39
Speaker 1: make a Super Bowl run like they're more than they're
1:03:43
Speaker 1: more than capable of that, and they have playoff experience.
1:03:47
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying this Texans team well, actually, let's
1:03:52
Speaker 1: see what they do against Kansas City next week. Then
1:03:53
Speaker 1: I'll see then I'll see from there.
1:03:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think honestly, the Texas I've been looking for
1:04:00
Speaker 2: a number two receiver. I think they were funneling a
1:04:02
Speaker 2: lot of targets towards guys like Xavier Hudgeson Jalen Nowell,
1:04:07
Speaker 2: but they were really missing that true number two guy.
1:04:10
Speaker 2: And I think Jaden Higgins over the last three weeks
1:04:12
Speaker 2: has really emerged as that true option on the outside
1:04:14
Speaker 2: out along with Nico Collins, and I think it's opened
1:04:18
Speaker 2: up so much of the opportunity for the rest of
1:04:19
Speaker 2: the players on this offense, especially with a bad offensive
1:04:22
Speaker 2: line who's playing a little bit better as of recently,
1:04:24
Speaker 2: but still he's able to have that other option to
1:04:28
Speaker 2: create opportunity to get this offense moving down the field.
1:04:30
Speaker 2: And it's really shown in CJ. Stroud's game. Though he's
1:04:33
Speaker 2: not what he was his rookie year. He has not
1:04:35
Speaker 2: got back to that level one bit, but it's making
1:04:39
Speaker 2: it's helping him get this team moving. And that's all
1:04:43
Speaker 2: you gotta do. When this defense is holding teams down
1:04:45
Speaker 2: like this, especially teams like the Indanapolis Colts. Who has
1:04:48
Speaker 2: struggled against two better defense over the last couple of weeks.
1:04:51
Speaker 2: When they're finally able to play defenses that can scheme
1:04:54
Speaker 2: up some really good things against Daniel Jones and truly
1:04:57
Speaker 2: make him try beating you when they shut down the run.
1:05:00
Speaker 2: But back to back weeks. But the Texans do have
1:05:03
Speaker 2: that dynamic duo I think in the receiving corp right
1:05:07
Speaker 2: now that has really opened up this offense quite a bit.
1:05:12
Speaker 1: Reckon anything, man, that's it. Okay, Well, I just want
1:05:18
Speaker 1: to ask you about or ask you about this. Two
1:05:21
Speaker 1: teams in the AFC right here, and they're the top
1:05:24
Speaker 1: two teams right now in the AFC. It's the Denver
1:05:28
Speaker 1: Broncos and the New England Patriots. Both of them they
1:05:31
Speaker 1: won their games.
1:05:32
Speaker 2: Try and two.
1:05:34
Speaker 1: Broncos they won overtime twenty seven to twenty six. Patriots
1:05:37
Speaker 1: they beat the Giants thirty three to fifteen. If you
1:05:40
Speaker 1: had to trust the team more, they both are win
1:05:43
Speaker 1: streaks right now, very easily. You said that very convincedly.
1:05:47
Speaker 2: Now, why yeah, Patriots, Bro, because Broncos the most overrated
1:05:51
Speaker 2: team in the entire NFL. Bro, I'm tired of them.
1:05:53
Speaker 2: They're so bad, like they are so bad, like they
1:05:57
Speaker 2: beat us. I get it, you know, we suck to Okay,
1:06:00
Speaker 2: we're six and six, but dude, week in and week out,
1:06:05
Speaker 2: they're playing these three win teams and these two win teams,
1:06:09
Speaker 2: and they're getting into shootouts like it makes no sense
1:06:12
Speaker 2: to me. They're holding teams down to twelve and only
1:06:14
Speaker 2: scoring fifteen, like it makes no sense. They're mid At least,
1:06:19
Speaker 2: the Patriots are blowing teams out. They had thirty in
1:06:21
Speaker 2: the first half versus the New York Giants.
1:06:23
Speaker 3: Bro.
1:06:23
Speaker 2: Of course, they're gonna take their foot off the gas.
1:06:26
Speaker 2: So yeah, give me the Patriots, bar none, dude, bar none.
1:06:30
Speaker 2: Give me the Patriots, and the.
1:06:35
Speaker 3: Patriots defense is better.
1:06:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said it.
1:06:39
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, anyways, did.
1:06:45
Speaker 2: Broncos what did Jackson Dart do versus the Denver Broncos?
1:06:50
Speaker 2: What did Jackson Dark? What did Jackson Dark do Jackson
1:06:55
Speaker 2: Dark do to the Patriots? Exactly? That's my point right there.
1:06:59
Speaker 1: Cam. Did you have Kim? Yeah he had Kim, Yeah
1:07:03
Speaker 1: he had that's Dark.
1:07:05
Speaker 2: Still the same dude running through brick walls. Bro, It
1:07:07
Speaker 2: don't matter. Due all, I have a singletary look pretty
1:07:12
Speaker 2: good in this game. I don't know what y'all are
1:07:14
Speaker 2: talking about he looked at right, didn't even watch the game.
1:07:19
Speaker 2: I did watching my pooky bear table at home. Bro,
1:07:24
Speaker 2: he didn't watch the game.
1:07:26
Speaker 3: All right, Bro, whatever whatever makes you sleep easy at night.
1:07:29
Speaker 3: I also have the Patriots, obviously. I love my poogy
1:07:32
Speaker 3: bear Drake May and I was watching his his uh
1:07:36
Speaker 3: wife's TikTok. She made him a good little breakfast this morning.
1:07:39
Speaker 3: Made me a little bit happy, some good protein. And
1:07:43
Speaker 3: I mean love that she sent him on his way
1:07:45
Speaker 3: to go whoop the ship out of the Giants. And
1:07:50
Speaker 3: I mean the the Broncos. Yeah cool, you took the
1:07:55
Speaker 3: fucking what three win team to like almost double overtime.
1:08:01
Speaker 3: Mariota had a fucking insane fourth quarter, just an absolute
1:08:05
Speaker 3: insane ending. Those are It was like some of the
1:08:08
Speaker 3: most entertaining football ever. I think Sean Payton is a
1:08:14
Speaker 3: damn good coach, and he really makes Bonnicks not look
1:08:18
Speaker 3: as bad as he is in my opinion. His his
1:08:21
Speaker 3: form is so dog shit. You're supposed to point your
1:08:25
Speaker 3: toe where you throw the ball. You learn this when
1:08:28
Speaker 3: you're five years old.
1:08:29
Speaker 2: Right here, You learn it when you're five.
1:08:37
Speaker 3: My point is, my point is Bonnicks is not Mahomes
1:08:44
Speaker 3: and he's throwing the ball. He's throwing it straight like this.
1:08:49
Speaker 3: He's fucking throwing it like this. What are you doing?
1:08:52
Speaker 3: Throw your fucking shoulders in front of that bitch. That
1:08:56
Speaker 3: motherfucking pakin down and got it.
1:08:58
Speaker 2: And he is the Oches third string tight end talking
1:09:02
Speaker 2: right now.
1:09:02
Speaker 3: Your damn rod. I fucking sucked at playing football, but
1:09:05
Speaker 3: I love watchingstanding cross yard.
1:09:09
Speaker 2: Dude, I do not.
1:09:10
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not claiming to be good at anything.
1:09:14
Speaker 3: I realized I'm not.
1:09:16
Speaker 2: Very claiming to be the next Cliff Kingsbury, Baker Mayfield,
1:09:20
Speaker 2: Johnny Manziel, Kyler Murray, Patrick Mahomes, Mariota into a demon
1:09:27
Speaker 2: in the fir fourth quarter, Jayden Daniels, you're just a
1:09:30
Speaker 2: quarterback guru. You're the quarterback guru. You're Cliff Kingsbury exactly.
1:09:35
Speaker 2: You're You're Cliff Kingsbury.
1:09:37
Speaker 3: Breaking now my head to head, I take the Patriots.
1:09:42
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I just want to I just want to
1:09:45
Speaker 1: give the rest of the schedules of these two teams remaining,
1:09:48
Speaker 1: so the Patriots they have their Bible.
1:09:51
Speaker 2: He's an NBA defense gury, right.
1:09:55
Speaker 1: You Actually we asked him before the pot about the
1:09:58
Speaker 1: different types of zones and NB and he answered every
1:10:01
Speaker 1: single one right. So I'm just saying, just shout out
1:10:04
Speaker 1: to Breakham. He needs to go open and watches one more.
1:10:06
Speaker 2: Bro watches to Jimmy high Roller videos and like, I.
1:10:09
Speaker 3: Love you, Jimmy, if you're listening, hit me up Fourth
1:10:13
Speaker 3: and Piece, Bro, I want to learn how to make it.
1:10:15
Speaker 2: Posted in two years on Fourth and Piece, I don't care.
1:10:19
Speaker 3: I don't care.
1:10:20
Speaker 2: I don't care, dude, I love I love his video more.
1:10:25
Speaker 3: I don't even watch to give the listeners an idea.
1:10:30
Speaker 3: I don't watch basketball, but I don't miss a Jimmy
1:10:33
Speaker 3: high Roller video that that's.
1:10:36
Speaker 1: Where he learned his basketball stuff from.
1:10:38
Speaker 3: Exactly.
1:10:40
Speaker 1: To be fair, we all started there, we all, we
1:10:42
Speaker 1: all started with Jimmy Hygrol.
1:10:44
Speaker 2: Mike cor Zimba. We real was Mike, Mike, Jimmy.
1:10:52
Speaker 1: Mike, It's Mike Zimba. Then you go to Jimmy, but
1:10:56
Speaker 1: like Mike Zimba's more like, dude, Mike Brow.
1:11:04
Speaker 2: You weren't there, You weren't. No, No, I'm saying if
1:11:07
Speaker 2: you weren't there with Mike Corzimba in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen.
1:11:12
Speaker 1: Maybe earlier legendary run.
1:11:13
Speaker 2: Dude. Oh my gosh, I mean Kenny Dude, shout out
1:11:17
Speaker 2: Mike Zimba, Bro, shout out there.
1:11:20
Speaker 1: Okay, that was random. We keep going basketball for some reason.
1:11:24
Speaker 2: But alright, brow English, A beautiful game. It's a beautiful game, brother.
1:11:28
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots rest of the season schedule, they
1:11:32
Speaker 1: have their bye week, Bill's Ravens, Jugs, the Dolphins in
1:11:37
Speaker 1: the Broncos.
1:11:38
Speaker 3: That's pretty easy.
1:11:39
Speaker 1: This is where it gets tough for the Broncos. Well okay,
1:11:41
Speaker 1: maybe not this game. They have the AT Raiders L,
1:11:45
Speaker 1: Green Bay L, Jacksonville L AT Kansas and then the
1:11:50
Speaker 1: Chargers L.
1:11:51
Speaker 2: All those are L five h and five for the
1:11:53
Speaker 2: written rest of the season for the Patriots. Okay, okay, dude,
1:12:00
Speaker 2: want to go New Clear this week?
1:12:02
Speaker 3: Bro?
1:12:06
Speaker 2: I could hear the.
1:12:09
Speaker 1: Hey I hope, so hey, I hope so.
1:12:13
Speaker 2: Yeah same. I'm an Ashton gent dynasty owner.
1:12:17
Speaker 1: So no, okay, that pretty much covered everything right there.
1:12:21
Speaker 1: Everything all right, We're gonna we're gonna give this a shot.
1:12:24
Speaker 1: Like Hallas said before before we started, hours, guess the
1:12:30
Speaker 1: player and guess the contract. Okay, we'll do a quick.
1:12:34
Speaker 3: I need to talk about Jerry Judy I wrote some
1:12:37
Speaker 3: fucking notes about Jerry Judy because you know, you know
1:12:42
Speaker 3: who didn't complain whenever his quarterback had five turnovers and
1:12:46
Speaker 3: didn't throw him the ball until halfway through the fourth quarter.
1:12:50
Speaker 3: That's the best fucking receiver in the NFL. Justin Jefferson,
1:12:54
Speaker 3: you know who complained whatever his quarterback overthrew him by
1:12:57
Speaker 3: two yards. Jerry Judy, you're a fucking him. Get him
1:13:01
Speaker 3: out of here. I need C Smith to go back
1:13:03
Speaker 3: in there and tell you you're just a fucking jad.
1:13:05
Speaker 3: He's a bottom. There's one hundred better receivers. There's one
1:13:09
Speaker 3: hundred wide receivers better than you, Jerry Judy. This is
1:13:13
Speaker 3: your rookie's second start, first home game. I was going
1:13:17
Speaker 3: against a very good forty nine ers and he didn't
1:13:19
Speaker 3: even play bad. He played good. Also, the Browns free
1:13:23
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders had two plays that were pass plays that
1:13:27
Speaker 3: went over twenty seven yards.
1:13:30
Speaker 8: Host about guys that maybe you can bring this up
1:13:34
Speaker 8: every time in a way or in the manner, and.
1:13:36
Speaker 1: So they weren't that I've used.
1:13:38
Speaker 2: But the freak to describe them in the past was
1:13:41
Speaker 2: he just a god?
1:13:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can hear all. Yeah, he's playing well.
1:13:45
Speaker 8: I wanted to say to him face to face, like, hey,
1:13:48
Speaker 8: I know I said some things in the past he
1:13:50
Speaker 8: probably shouldn't have, and I'm sorry. That's what I wanted
1:13:54
Speaker 8: to say to him. His response, Mike Rab was ninja, Yes,
1:14:00
Speaker 8: I'm using the word ninja. That's I'm just using the
1:14:02
Speaker 8: word ninja. I don't mess with you. And it was
1:14:05
Speaker 8: like it was a curse word, and so I was like,
1:14:07
Speaker 8: all right, and then he repeated it, so I'll say
1:14:10
Speaker 8: it again. God, I'm sorry that I forgot who's an
1:14:13
Speaker 8: average wide receiver they used the first round pick on
1:14:16
Speaker 8: that isn't doing show up in a way that you
1:14:19
Speaker 8: haven't showed up in the last So I'm sorry for
1:14:26
Speaker 8: saying that you're an average wide receiver that they eventually
1:14:29
Speaker 8: were moving with teams and.
1:14:31
Speaker 3: Asking they.
1:14:34
Speaker 8: Don't because he's got to be unable to handle some
1:14:39
Speaker 8: criticism from people who watch specifically, can he be a
1:14:44
Speaker 8: wide receiver?
1:14:45
Speaker 1: He could be a wide receiver.
1:14:46
Speaker 2: He's a two to three. I'm over this guy to
1:14:50
Speaker 2: the studio.
1:14:50
Speaker 3: I'm done now, Okay, wise words from the greatest Triple
1:14:55
Speaker 3: Crown season of all time, and I mean okay, Like
1:14:59
Speaker 3: I was gonna say before before Schador Sanders. The Browns
1:15:02
Speaker 3: had two pass plays that went for over twenty seven yards.
1:15:05
Speaker 3: One of them was a screen after Shador Sanders in
1:15:09
Speaker 3: his first two starts. Four plays over thirty five yards
1:15:14
Speaker 3: in his first two starts, and he could have had
1:15:17
Speaker 3: more of Jerry Judy is a fucking fumbling the ball
1:15:20
Speaker 3: and not jumping for passes. Yeah, absolutely insane. Also, Steelers
1:15:25
Speaker 3: most expensive defense in the NFL. What the fuck are
1:15:28
Speaker 3: you guys doing? You just let them run fifty one times.
1:15:32
Speaker 3: The Bills ran fifty one times on you guys for
1:15:36
Speaker 3: almost three hundred yards. Steelers, you need to do better.
1:15:40
Speaker 3: I know Devo's gonna be fucking pissed, and he should be.
1:15:43
Speaker 3: Why are you the most expensive team in the NFL?
1:15:45
Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin, sorry, you're done. You're not having a five
1:15:47
Speaker 3: hundred season. Fire him, all right? Another guy that needs
1:15:50
Speaker 3: to get fired we were talking about earlier hours. John Harball.
1:15:57
Speaker 3: John Harball is done at like after this game, he's done.
1:16:01
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow made an insanely good play. I actually watched
1:16:05
Speaker 3: this because his touchdown to Yoshivash was beautiful and it
1:16:09
Speaker 3: was artful, and it shows you why the mental game
1:16:12
Speaker 3: is the most important, not the physical. He's seen that
1:16:16
Speaker 3: the Ravens wanted to blitz their safety and their corner
1:16:19
Speaker 3: check out of their play, caught a seam raut and
1:16:21
Speaker 3: then also motioned in the tight end and their running
1:16:24
Speaker 3: back to block. It was just a beautiful right over
1:16:27
Speaker 3: wroll kwand Smith's head for a touchdown. And that's why
1:16:30
Speaker 3: the Bengals are better than you. They had four field goals,
1:16:34
Speaker 3: four straight drives. You're telling me that the Ravens don't
1:16:37
Speaker 3: capitalize on that. I think I think Hardball's gone out.
1:16:42
Speaker 3: I think he's done.
1:16:44
Speaker 2: I think Tom has gone before Hardball.
1:16:46
Speaker 1: I think they're both gone.
1:16:47
Speaker 3: I think they're both gone.
1:16:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're both gone. Honestly, I mean I
1:16:51
Speaker 1: don't care.
1:16:52
Speaker 3: And then also also for the last four games, Derrick
1:16:56
Speaker 3: Henry the first drive has six plus attempts and has
1:17:00
Speaker 3: had twenty yards and has had a touchdown in the
1:17:04
Speaker 3: first drive. After that, in these last four games, he's
1:17:08
Speaker 3: only had seven attempts in the first you're telling me
1:17:12
Speaker 3: a running back that gets a running back that is
1:17:15
Speaker 3: that bait that gets it better as the game goes on.
1:17:18
Speaker 3: You have a quarterback that is coming back from an
1:17:20
Speaker 3: injury and still isn't one hundred percent. As we can
1:17:23
Speaker 3: all tell, you go to a guy that gets better
1:17:26
Speaker 3: as the game goes on and you run less. Explain
1:17:29
Speaker 3: that to me, John explaining that to me? That makes
1:17:32
Speaker 3: no sense at all.
1:17:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really doesn't. I think. I remember when I
1:17:36
Speaker 2: tek to the groups, I'm like, Yo, what happened to
1:17:38
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry.
1:17:38
Speaker 3: Bro Like, like he's not injured or anything?
1:17:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least I own Key Mitchell and Derrick Henry.
1:17:48
Speaker 3: So no, and it's like, it's like, you are one
1:17:51
Speaker 3: of your hands down the best run team in the NFL.
1:17:55
Speaker 3: Why are you dropping back forty plus times? Run the
1:17:58
Speaker 3: damn ball? You have a two hundred plus pounder in
1:18:02
Speaker 3: the backfield, an absolute giant that runs for two thousand
1:18:04
Speaker 3: yards when he's thirty years old.
1:18:07
Speaker 1: I I just think it's just a mismanagement, especially in
1:18:11
Speaker 1: a game where it's one of the worst defenses in
1:18:13
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals and they're not able to get anything going.
1:18:16
Speaker 1: But also we talked about it last week as far
1:18:19
Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson, he's either he's not healthy or something.
1:18:24
Speaker 1: Something's not clicking with that offense. They were perfectly fine
1:18:28
Speaker 1: in the first three weeks when they were averaging damn
1:18:30
Speaker 1: near forty points a game. And now ever since he's
1:18:33
Speaker 1: got back, they haven't cracked over twenty five. Yeah yeah,
1:18:39
Speaker 1: ever since the Chiefs. Ever since the Chiefs Week four.
1:18:43
Speaker 1: They haven't been the same offense ever since then.
1:18:47
Speaker 3: Oh my, you want to know something else that's crazy?
1:18:50
Speaker 3: Last four weeks since Lamar's come back from injury, who
1:18:54
Speaker 3: do you think he's had more Fantasy points? Him? Or
1:18:57
Speaker 3: shandor Sanders? Wow? Well, I mean that's insane. Shador Sanders
1:19:02
Speaker 3: has had more points than Lamar Jackson.
1:19:06
Speaker 5: Wow.
1:19:06
Speaker 3: Bench him, like, like, watch on a lesson. I had
1:19:09
Speaker 3: to do it to BDJ, and he dropped twenty the
1:19:11
Speaker 3: next game. Granny has been dogship since. But watch him
1:19:15
Speaker 3: for a week, bro, He's got to learn his fucking lesson.
1:19:20
Speaker 2: BDJ did not learn his lesson.
1:19:26
Speaker 3: For one week. He did for one week he did.
1:19:28
Speaker 1: You need to bench him again. You need to bench
1:19:30
Speaker 1: him again.
1:19:30
Speaker 3: Jim, Actually you are already.
1:19:34
Speaker 2: Next week break.
1:19:35
Speaker 3: I'm mentioning him next week.
1:19:36
Speaker 2: Please do it.
1:19:37
Speaker 3: I'm betting him next week. I've started him every single
1:19:40
Speaker 3: game this season. I'm like, oh, he's my he's my
1:19:43
Speaker 3: first round pick. I have to start.
1:19:44
Speaker 2: I know, Bro, I know I'm starting Mitchell over him
1:19:48
Speaker 2: this week.
1:19:49
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm starting John Mitchi over him. I feel like
1:19:51
Speaker 3: the Jets got something going on in that wide receiver room.
1:19:53
Speaker 2: I love young Garrett Wilson and Mitchell, John Mitchi.
1:19:58
Speaker 3: I would have thought some Taylor dog men's that their
1:20:04
Speaker 3: left tackles so slept on the one that they drafted
1:20:06
Speaker 3: the rookie.
1:20:08
Speaker 2: Wait, Mims, Morgan Moses, is it is it?
1:20:11
Speaker 3: Mens?
1:20:12
Speaker 1: No, it's a no no no no, yeah. I think
1:20:15
Speaker 1: you're talking about Morgan Moses, Oh armand mimboo arm On, Membu,
1:20:20
Speaker 1: Thanks Ryan.
1:20:20
Speaker 3: Thanks memboo Membo.
1:20:22
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks for SHUGO for shan he I thought he
1:20:28
Speaker 9: was on the Jets Raiders. Raiders on the Raiders.
1:20:33
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he's not. No, he's not. I'm tripping.
1:20:35
Speaker 1: Where did for shan is on the Jets.
1:20:38
Speaker 2: Yeah he's on the Jets.
1:20:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:20:39
Speaker 2: I think there were two different drafts. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay,
1:20:42
Speaker 2: it is two different drafts.
1:20:43
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah it was Men's two years ago.
1:20:48
Speaker 2: Memes, I think something about Mimbo. You're talking about Marvin Mims. Dude,
1:20:54
Speaker 2: he played road receiver for the Dinner Brocos and he
1:20:56
Speaker 2: went to Oklahoma. Yeah, gosh, yes, mens, yeah, exactly what
1:21:03
Speaker 2: dog crap offensive line?
1:21:06
Speaker 3: Now, but oh, you're right, Josh, I was thinking of
1:21:09
Speaker 3: that other guy. I can't say his last.
1:21:10
Speaker 2: Name, armand Nimbu.
1:21:15
Speaker 1: No. But all right, well, okay, we'll just do this
1:21:17
Speaker 1: really quick.
1:21:18
Speaker 3: Just do two of them.
1:21:19
Speaker 1: We'll just do two of them. You have to guess
1:21:21
Speaker 1: the contract and the player at the same time. You
1:21:24
Speaker 1: could guess it right away, or you have four hints.
1:21:27
Speaker 3: All right, you'll get to use chat.
1:21:31
Speaker 1: No, no, okay, okay, top five in catches and yards
1:21:39
Speaker 1: last two seasons. Obviously this is a wide receiver here.
1:21:44
Speaker 3: We're guessing the guy right now. Yes, I mean we'll
1:21:47
Speaker 3: top five by the end of it.
1:21:49
Speaker 1: You have to guess his con yes, or last two
1:21:55
Speaker 1: last two seasons, last two seasons.
1:21:57
Speaker 3: Okay, last two seasons. Wa.
1:22:01
Speaker 1: Wow, that was a snipe. Now, that was a snipe
1:22:04
Speaker 1: right there. Yes, it is aman raw. But now it's
1:22:06
Speaker 1: time for you guys to guess the contract. All right, now,
1:22:10
Speaker 1: I'll give you guys your next hint. Paid big, but
1:22:13
Speaker 1: not Tyreek Hill or Devonte Adams money.
1:22:19
Speaker 3: It was either a four or five year four years
1:22:23
Speaker 3: it was it was four years, and it was something
1:22:26
Speaker 3: like twenty eight million year or something like that, because
1:22:29
Speaker 3: AJ Brown was like thirty thirty one.
1:22:32
Speaker 1: If y'all want another hint y'all, can y'all can get one?
1:22:37
Speaker 2: You think year one hundred eight million dollars.
1:22:41
Speaker 3: No, it's more.
1:22:44
Speaker 1: Just if y'all are ready for another hint y'all.
1:22:46
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, we'll do with that four year one hundred.
1:22:48
Speaker 1: And eight Okay. That it was very It was very close.
1:22:52
Speaker 1: It was four years, one hundred and twenty million and
1:22:55
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars a year, So that was that was
1:22:58
Speaker 1: very close. Okay, how much is you?
1:23:00
Speaker 3: Yes?
1:23:01
Speaker 1: I said, it doesn't It doesn't say guaranteed guaranteed.
1:23:05
Speaker 3: He's guaranteed a lot. I don't think he guarante he
1:23:09
Speaker 3: is guaranteed a lot.
1:23:11
Speaker 1: Okay, this one it should be a little bit tougher. Okay, well,
1:23:16
Speaker 1: you're gonna know who this player is. But as far
1:23:17
Speaker 1: as guests and the market value, Giants traded Premium Pick
1:23:22
Speaker 1: and they had to pay him after after they traded
1:23:25
Speaker 1: for him.
1:23:28
Speaker 2: Brian Burns.
1:23:30
Speaker 1: Okay, y'all got that. Okay, I want you to get
1:23:33
Speaker 1: the years, the total contract and average.
1:23:37
Speaker 3: In this one.
1:23:37
Speaker 1: See see how well, see how well y'all could do
1:23:41
Speaker 1: those two years ago. Okay, five, I.
1:23:52
Speaker 3: Remember he set He's set the record for like two
1:23:56
Speaker 3: days or something like that, and then somebody else got paid.
1:24:01
Speaker 3: I know he got paid, like he got overpaid, Like
1:24:04
Speaker 3: he got paid a ship ton of money.
1:24:05
Speaker 2: He's a dog bro, I.
1:24:08
Speaker 1: Mean, like top five in sacks. I give y'all another hint.
1:24:12
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess he's got to be like, like how
1:24:18
Speaker 3: many a year? You look like thirty a year? Thirty
1:24:20
Speaker 3: MILLI year. I think he's getting paid about that much,
1:24:24
Speaker 3: maybe like twenty and a half. I think like twenty
1:24:26
Speaker 3: eight and a half.
1:24:27
Speaker 2: Oh, I feel like that's low. Chris Jones is getting
1:24:29
Speaker 2: paid thirty two and a half.
1:24:31
Speaker 3: What really? Okay? Maybe I got DNS all mixed up
1:24:35
Speaker 3: in my head.
1:24:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got paid.
1:24:39
Speaker 3: Maybe it's like maybe it's like thirty six, thirty six
1:24:42
Speaker 3: and a half or something.
1:24:43
Speaker 2: I like that number a little bit more thirty five.
1:24:47
Speaker 2: What's that one hundred and sixty eight mil? I feel
1:24:49
Speaker 2: like that's a good. That's a good. One hundred sixty
1:24:51
Speaker 2: seven MILLI five years over five years under sixty seven.
1:24:55
Speaker 3: It's right around that. I bet it's I bet it's
1:24:57
Speaker 3: closer to like, are y'all lot one's seventy? I want five?
1:25:03
Speaker 1: What's y'all's final answer?
1:25:05
Speaker 2: One seventy's the middle?
1:25:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, one sixty eight.
1:25:11
Speaker 2: So that actually said that.
1:25:13
Speaker 1: Okay, So the actual contract is five for one forty
1:25:17
Speaker 1: one and it's twenty eight and a half million a year.
1:25:23
Speaker 2: Breaking at it on the buddy, So I was like,
1:25:26
Speaker 2: I think a job breaking, good job wrecking, dude.
1:25:29
Speaker 3: Why is Chris Jones getting paid thirty two and a
1:25:31
Speaker 3: half Are you sure?
1:25:33
Speaker 2: Thirty guys like made the All Pro team like six
1:25:36
Speaker 2: years in a row.
1:25:37
Speaker 1: Whatever, the greatest the film was.
1:25:39
Speaker 2: Like one of the greatest defittive tackles to ever walk
1:25:41
Speaker 2: the face of the planet.
1:25:42
Speaker 1: Okay, I could give y'all one more. This one shouldn't
1:25:45
Speaker 1: be too bad due his contract is okay, okay, doesn't
1:25:50
Speaker 1: have an MVP but got franchise quarterback money.
1:25:57
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson wait active active?
1:26:02
Speaker 1: Well obviously yeah this is active?
1:26:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it could be, it could be. It
1:26:09
Speaker 3: could be pretty.
1:26:12
Speaker 2: Shawn watch.
1:26:14
Speaker 1: It's not the Shawn Watson. It's okay, Okay. From this
1:26:19
Speaker 1: point forward, I'll just say, if you'll if you guess
1:26:22
Speaker 1: the name, if you'll guess the name. I'll just say
1:26:24
Speaker 1: another same as heard and Burrow deals.
1:26:30
Speaker 2: Oh so he's like at least top five, Dak Prescott, Kirker.
1:26:35
Speaker 3: Is it big Kirk?
1:26:38
Speaker 2: No, they they revamped Kirko's contract, and then DAK is
1:26:42
Speaker 2: number one, So is number one Jordan Love.
1:26:47
Speaker 1: It's not Jordan Love. Very large guarantees in this contract.
1:26:53
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
1:26:57
Speaker 2: No, Josh Allen, Tyler.
1:27:00
Speaker 3: Tyler's contract was crazy.
1:27:01
Speaker 1: It's not Kyler.
1:27:02
Speaker 2: No, it's it's not the market no more.
1:27:04
Speaker 3: Though, yeah, that was a while ago. I'm trying to
1:27:09
Speaker 3: think about who would because there's like party too, obviously
1:27:12
Speaker 3: te law, obviously.
1:27:15
Speaker 1: There's there's some names y'all. Y'all have like the right
1:27:18
Speaker 1: bunch of names. And I'll give y'all last I'm not
1:27:22
Speaker 1: number one highest paid, but very close to it. I
1:27:25
Speaker 1: know it's I know it's no, it's not saying much, but.
1:27:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Mahomes and Josh Allen aren't up there like
1:27:32
Speaker 2: they're like they're a little lower because they're contract.
1:27:34
Speaker 1: So that's and I'll give y'all DAK is at sixty million,
1:27:38
Speaker 1: and then it's obviously it's not highest paid, but it's
1:27:40
Speaker 1: close to it.
1:27:42
Speaker 3: There's so many young quarterbacks in the NFL that aren't
1:27:45
Speaker 3: even on contract yet.
1:27:49
Speaker 2: Sam Sam Darnell signed a three year contract.
1:27:51
Speaker 3: Show it's not yeah, and his wasn't crazy. Baker's contract
1:27:54
Speaker 3: wasn't crazy, Dude, I.
1:28:01
Speaker 2: Don't know Jared Goff.
1:28:03
Speaker 1: No, okay, player, you want me to tell you all
1:28:07
Speaker 1: the players. I guess the contract.
1:28:09
Speaker 2: Give us the conference a f C. Damn it.
1:28:21
Speaker 3: It's not Geno. He's not gonna that much. I don't
1:28:25
Speaker 3: know Stroud. No, it's not t law He already said law.
1:28:34
Speaker 1: Wait, I never said it was, never said it is.
1:28:39
Speaker 1: I guess law Yes, you could guess it is. It
1:28:41
Speaker 1: is Trevor Lawrence. I was hoping we named that was
1:28:48
Speaker 1: that was his first name, names like crazy. I didn't hear.
1:28:51
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that right there. Yeah, I didn't hear
1:28:54
Speaker 1: that it is Trevor Lawrence. Yes, yeah, okay.
1:28:57
Speaker 2: So that's why we stopped guessing Trevor Lawrence because Reckon
1:29:00
Speaker 2: I didn't like.
1:29:01
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that.
1:29:02
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, two, go to sleep,
1:29:06
Speaker 2: shut your mouth and go to sleep.
1:29:08
Speaker 3: Game I see your kids.
1:29:09
Speaker 1: No, because after you said those four I said, you're
1:29:11
Speaker 1: in the right range you're in the right range.
1:29:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did not say it, yes, least at least
1:29:16
Speaker 3: maybe maybe I didn't say it like this is my guest,
1:29:19
Speaker 3: but I did say his name. Now.
1:29:21
Speaker 1: But all right, now for the actual contract, so I
1:29:24
Speaker 1: gave y'all all those hands right there.
1:29:26
Speaker 2: It's four year contracts contracts. NFL teams don't like to
1:29:34
Speaker 2: sign five year contracts because when they re up they
1:29:36
Speaker 2: have to play the market value after five years when
1:29:38
Speaker 2: the new person comes along, so they go for four years.
1:29:41
Speaker 2: I feel like it's.
1:29:42
Speaker 3: Four could be more than five.
1:29:46
Speaker 2: He did not getting a Josh Allen six year contract bricking.
1:29:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, four years like like a hundred and
1:29:59
Speaker 3: like one hundred and eight me something, No more than that.
1:30:05
Speaker 3: I think it's like a four year two fifteen or
1:30:07
Speaker 3: some ship that be insane. No, I bet it's like,
1:30:12
Speaker 3: I bet it's like a four year one eighty five.
1:30:15
Speaker 2: Dude, that's low. If he's getting if he's close to
1:30:18
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Dak Prestviell was getting paid with like sixty
1:30:20
Speaker 2: nine million dollars this year.
1:30:22
Speaker 1: Sixty No, bro, he's getting paid, isn't.
1:30:24
Speaker 2: It's gonna jump up though, too.
1:30:27
Speaker 3: Fifteen? No, in two years. It's gonna go up to
1:30:30
Speaker 3: like one O seven. I know right. It's because they
1:30:34
Speaker 3: know no, no, no, I'll pull it up. I'll pull
1:30:37
Speaker 3: it up.
1:30:37
Speaker 1: It's not right, call it up.
1:30:39
Speaker 2: Bro's gonna get paid eighty percent of the salary. Seventy
1:30:43
Speaker 2: five percent of the salary got to one guy is insane.
1:30:50
Speaker 3: I'm pulling it up. Brother. So I say we're.
1:30:54
Speaker 2: Around fifty fifty six mil. Fifty six I.
1:30:57
Speaker 3: Said, I said two fifteen. I said, like two fifteen.
1:31:00
Speaker 2: I say two thirty two. No, I don't say two
1:31:06
Speaker 2: twenty two.
1:31:06
Speaker 3: It goes seventy five mil, sixty eight mil, seventy eight mil.
1:31:11
Speaker 2: To twenty four. I say about four years to twenty four.
1:31:15
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, four year, two twenty four.
1:31:18
Speaker 1: Breckon, what's your guess?
1:31:20
Speaker 3: I said, four to fifteen, Okay, I would rather go
1:31:24
Speaker 3: with like a five year, like to sixty.
1:31:28
Speaker 1: So, okay, what is y'all's average? I guess average, guess average?
1:31:31
Speaker 3: Here, I guess my year.
1:31:34
Speaker 2: I don't guess. And I got it right on the money, Okay,
1:31:36
Speaker 2: fifty two and a half, So that that was like
1:31:38
Speaker 2: fifty six milliear So the actual contract.
1:31:41
Speaker 1: So Brecon did have the years, right, it is a
1:31:43
Speaker 1: five year deal to seventy or five fifty five million
1:31:47
Speaker 1: dollars a year.
1:31:49
Speaker 2: I was close with the yearly though, Yeah he was.
1:31:51
Speaker 3: I said five year, two sixty ye, I was pretty ful.
1:31:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's okay. I just wanted to see how
1:31:57
Speaker 1: good y'all knew contracts right there. But all right, let's
1:31:59
Speaker 1: go want to wrap it up with our MVPs of
1:32:02
Speaker 1: the week. So breaking, we already know yours. You gave
1:32:04
Speaker 1: years away like forty minutes into the episode.
1:32:08
Speaker 2: Who is my.
1:32:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh, who was your MVP for this?
1:32:15
Speaker 3: Also, little side note, Steelers defense got ran through like
1:32:19
Speaker 3: an ASU so worrity girl on rush reek fifty one
1:32:23
Speaker 3: rush attempts. I want to throw that. I wrote that
1:32:27
Speaker 3: down as well in my notes, wanting to throw that
1:32:29
Speaker 3: one in there. I'm just kidding. I'm sorry.
1:32:33
Speaker 2: Who is my MVP of the week?
1:32:37
Speaker 3: Dude, There's so many goods, dude, there's this guy that
1:32:40
Speaker 3: plays on this team, John.
1:32:44
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna go ahead in name mind, I'm gonna
1:32:46
Speaker 1: get I'm gonna go with.
1:32:47
Speaker 2: Devon Ah for taking down the New Orleans Saints to
1:32:52
Speaker 2: four yards and a touchdown.
1:32:54
Speaker 3: Well, that was exciting.
1:32:56
Speaker 2: A handsome young failure, you know. So I'm going with
1:32:59
Speaker 2: Devon Agen.
1:33:00
Speaker 3: I'm not that I got him in Dynasty.
1:33:02
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna go with the guy who was getting
1:33:04
Speaker 1: a bunch of slack even from me last week after
1:33:07
Speaker 1: I said George Pickens may may be that number one receiver.
1:33:11
Speaker 1: But then he turned around and and he showed that
1:33:14
Speaker 1: a Rose Royce is a Rose Royce when it pulls up.
1:33:17
Speaker 1: Compared to all these chryslers, these dB ones like M
1:33:22
Speaker 1: one and a tutter right there.
1:33:27
Speaker 2: Easily score touchdown.
1:33:29
Speaker 1: I'm talking about CD Lamb right here, number eighty eight.
1:33:33
Speaker 2: They had two touchdowns.
1:33:35
Speaker 1: Well, ceed had more yards and a dub So now
1:33:38
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we played this game for dubbs here.
1:33:41
Speaker 1: So shout out to Cede Lamb for being my MVP
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Speaker 1: of the week. But all right, guys, any last things
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Speaker 1: before we wrap this up.
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Speaker 2: Damon Walker Damon Clark is now on the Houston Texans.
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Speaker 3: Cool.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Johnny Furphy and shout out to Danny Manning.
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Speaker 2: Hey, shout out Johnny Furphy and Danny Manning.
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Speaker 1: Yes on, Danny Manning, Breckon.
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Speaker 2: But all right, before you, I don't know about Danny Man.
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Speaker 2: He don't know about one of the greatest college basketball
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Speaker 2: players of all time under ts C.
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Speaker 1: S A on the slow called Sports titlest But yes,
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Speaker 1: well we'll tell you or guess which team he played for.
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Speaker 3: It we'll we'll end it.
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Speaker 1: But but he listens to this live or another day.
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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Make sure you shout to anybody I
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Speaker 1: like sports. We'll see you guys soon. Y'all take care. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: guess which team he played for.