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  Speaker 1: It's the good report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight. I've got to ask anyone seeing Energy Minister Chris
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  Speaker 2: Bowen seems that Labour's hiding him ahead of the election,
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  Speaker 2: and no wonder plus our foreign minister embarrassed herself at
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  Speaker 2: Auschwitz today or so tonight what Millennia Trump's official photo was.
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  Speaker 2: The president's wife tells about her well, her husband's raids
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  Speaker 2: and illegal immigrants go Showbiz now joined by doctor Phil
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  Speaker 2: while actress Selena Gomez cries.
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  Speaker 3: Only people are getting Kirk.
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  Speaker 2: And we're talking immigration later. How Donald Trump is cracking
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  Speaker 2: down hard. But a quick point here about our immigration intake,
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  Speaker 2: our dangerous refusal for decades to consider culture siding who
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  Speaker 2: we let in. Today I heard that an underworld figure
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  Speaker 2: had just been gunned down, and like many of you,
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  Speaker 2: jumped to a conclusion, I know, you know underworld figure
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  Speaker 2: shot Middle East then and it was actually Formermongols. Biky
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  Speaker 2: Sam Abdurrahman, born here but calling eleven on his homeland,
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  Speaker 2: killed in Melbourne in about the third attempt to murder him.
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  Speaker 2: A million dollar bounty was on his head. He had
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  Speaker 2: been linked to the tobacco wars, which are mainly between
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  Speaker 2: allegedly big Middle East and crime gangs here that have
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  Speaker 2: so far torched around two hundred shops around the country
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  Speaker 2: two hundred and they may now be involved in some
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  Speaker 2: attacks on Jewish targets as well. Now, if you think
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  Speaker 2: they do jump too quickly to conclusions or summations guesses,
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  Speaker 2: look also at the shootings in Sydney. One war between
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  Speaker 2: mostly Middlelyn crime games killed more most of the more
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  Speaker 2: than two hundred people shot dead in targeted shootings since
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty. They are the red dots on this map.
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  Speaker 2: Blue dots are where the target survived. Now, I know
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  Speaker 2: this doesn't apply to the majority of immigrants in the
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  Speaker 2: Middle East, but sometimes it is like we have imported
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  Speaker 2: more than just people from the Middle East. Some streets
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  Speaker 2: of our cities now seem as dangerous as be route.
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  Speaker 2: So tell me again how diversity makes Australia stronger. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there was an earthquake today. Really that should tell our
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  Speaker 2: leaders to wake up. Our economy is about to get
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  Speaker 2: run over and maybe our freedoms too. Today the world's
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  Speaker 2: most valuable company, the Veda US base, I lost one
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  Speaker 2: trillion dollars of value, one trillion Australian never seen before.
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  Speaker 2: I lost that massive three times the worth of our
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  Speaker 2: BHP and that's still just seventeen percent of Inveda's worth.
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  Speaker 2: Now you wonder what could make a company be worth
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  Speaker 2: that much and why did it get such a record
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  Speaker 2: hiding And that's where you start crying for our country.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here is our government throwing billions, are trying
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  Speaker 2: to make stupid solar panels. It's like it's still in
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  Speaker 2: the Stone Age, trying to make us use unreliable wind
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  Speaker 2: and solar. But in Vida, that is the real future.
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  Speaker 2: It is working on artificial intelligence, making semiconductor chips to
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  Speaker 2: help get computers to do our thinking for us. And
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  Speaker 2: the reason it lost that fortune is because surprise, China
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  Speaker 2: is trying to do the same thing, and one of
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  Speaker 2: its companies, deep Seak, has announced its chatbot was just
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  Speaker 2: as good as any of the Americans make, but much
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  Speaker 2: cheaper using a lot fewer of those expensive Invida chips.
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  Speaker 2: Now this battle is absolutely massive. I showed you last
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  Speaker 2: week Donald Trump with three tech billionaires announcing they were
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  Speaker 2: investing five one hundred billion with a b us in
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  Speaker 2: AI infrastructure and a project called Stargate. But this Chinese company,
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  Speaker 2: deep Seat, said it developed it's AI model with just
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  Speaker 2: six million dollars. I know it's not quite apples for
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  Speaker 2: apples six million dollars, and that's why in Vida shares
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  Speaker 2: record tanking. Now, yes, people like you lamsque and now
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  Speaker 2: say well, the Chinese are lying about all that. But
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  Speaker 2: I want to focus on two things regardless that should
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  Speaker 2: scare you. Here should scare Australia. Here are American China
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  Speaker 2: in a titanic wrestle to dominate the technology of the future.
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  Speaker 2: Not solar panels. You know, it's something AI that's going
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  Speaker 2: to revolutionize industry, health, the technology right throughout your life
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  Speaker 2: from cast the kettles. It's worth trillions now here, Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, our government's fapping around with solar panels. You
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  Speaker 2: think the Primaris. Last Thursday, when it was asked about
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  Speaker 2: Trump invailing that stargate AA project, now, Trump said he
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  Speaker 2: made that possible for getting rid of the global warring
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  Speaker 2: restrictions so we could get more of those that massive
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  Speaker 2: amount of reliable electricity that AI needs. But to alban
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  Speaker 2: easy our global war restrictions, Suddenly we're a handicap, but
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  Speaker 2: an attraction.
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  Speaker 4: The other things that these data centers will look for
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  Speaker 4: because the global industries is their carbon footprint. So I'll
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  Speaker 4: be looking for opportunities for green energy in particular, and
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  Speaker 4: that is a significant advantage.
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  Speaker 5: That we have.
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  Speaker 4: That's why the work that Chris Bowen is leading is
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  Speaker 4: so important for Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Dear God, listen, that AI industry is nothing without reliable
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  Speaker 2: because it eats it like an entire city. And if
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  Speaker 2: you do want to go green, that has to mean
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  Speaker 2: nuclear power. And that's why Google is actually trying to
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  Speaker 2: get its own nuclear power generators. Nuclear power that Albin
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  Speaker 2: easy is sis must be banned. But there is a
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  Speaker 2: second problem here for us, a massive security risk. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think China cares anything whether it's AI data centers
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  Speaker 2: go green. No, it just wants world domination, which means
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  Speaker 2: getting those facilities the cheapest and most reliable power there is.
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  Speaker 2: And if the West is stupid enough to want to
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  Speaker 2: go green, expensive green power instead, that just helps China
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  Speaker 2: win this race for AI, which also means letting China
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  Speaker 2: shape the world, shape the way that we see the
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  Speaker 2: world and how we design for it. Remember this is
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  Speaker 2: communist China. Jernas have already asked this Chinese deep seat
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  Speaker 2: questions like tell me about how China locks up Muslim wigas,
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  Speaker 2: or tell us the big criticisms of the Chinese president
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  Speaker 2: Chi Jinping, or tell us about Chinese interference in Australian politics,
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  Speaker 2: or tell us how Chinese soldiers massacre students at the
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  Speaker 2: Gentlemen Square protest, or even tell us who the Taiwan
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  Speaker 2: president is. These are all genuine questions, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the answer that deep Seat gives each time. Sorry, that's
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  Speaker 2: beyond my current scope. Let's talk about something else. Now.
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  Speaker 2: This is far more dangerous than China just stopping you
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  Speaker 2: from learning things. It's dictator doesn't want you to know.
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  Speaker 2: What if you actually wanted to use deep seat to
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  Speaker 2: help invent missile defenses against Chinese missiles, defenses against Chinese hacking,
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  Speaker 2: would it even let you? Could China even use deep
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  Speaker 2: Seat to turn minds and machines against the West and
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  Speaker 2: its values. Musk actually raised a brilliant example late last year.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't talking about China, of course, but an example
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  Speaker 2: of how an II artificial intelligence that would say badly
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  Speaker 2: brought up, badly educated, badly trained, could be a huge
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  Speaker 2: minister to us.
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  Speaker 6: All my concern about a lot of the ais that
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  Speaker 6: are being developed are that they're trained to lie, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and in some cases were potentially disastrous consequences. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: when when Google Gemini came out, you know, people ask
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  Speaker 6: like which is worse misgendering, Caitlyn Jenner or global thermonuclear
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  Speaker 6: war and it said miss gendering Kitland Jenner. I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: that's a problem, guys, because if this AI becomes super powerful,
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  Speaker 6: it could decide that the best way to avoid misgendering
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  Speaker 6: is to kill all humans, which makes the probablity of
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  Speaker 6: miss gendering zero. So this is very important to have
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  Speaker 6: AI be be maximally truthful and curious and love humanity.
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  Speaker 2: We must have an AI, he says, that is curious, honest,
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  Speaker 2: and loves humanity. Does that sound like an AI that
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  Speaker 2: the Chinese communist dictatorship would build? You see what's so
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  Speaker 2: critical for the Wester win the battle to develop and
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  Speaker 2: control artificial intelligence, and how the global warming fantasy that
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  Speaker 2: makes electricity so expensive, so unreliable is such a threat
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  Speaker 2: to our future and our freedom. Joining me is Sandy
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  Speaker 2: Plunkett has been a long time tech sector analyst and
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  Speaker 2: columnists who also spend fifteen years working in Silicon Valley.
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  Speaker 2: Look Sandy, thank you so much for joining us. First,
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  Speaker 2: this trillion dollar hit to America's most valuable company after
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  Speaker 2: a Chinese AI company said it had a chatbot that
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  Speaker 2: didn't need all those American chips.
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  Speaker 3: Ord is this, Well, that's all, hi, Andrew, I'm nice
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  Speaker 3: to be here. I should clarify that the trillion dollar
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  Speaker 3: hit was not just on one company in Navidio, which
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  Speaker 3: is the world's dominant advanced chip maker for AI. The
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  Speaker 3: more than twillion dollar loss on the stock market happened
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  Speaker 3: to several of the large tech stocks, all in AI
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  Speaker 3: or communications in in one way or another. But it
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  Speaker 3: is still a massive hit and the largest one I
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  Speaker 3: think we've seen ever in one day. So it's it's
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  Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a big deal. There's a
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  Speaker 3: there's a part of a theory that that the markets
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  Speaker 3: sort of felt that they were already somewhat overweighted in
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  Speaker 3: tech stocks anyway, and so the announcement of deep Seek
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  Speaker 3: was was just accelerated what needed to be a rebalance.
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  Speaker 3: But it's got everybody moving and shaking. Basically, it's a
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  Speaker 3: it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 7: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Ela Mass says the Chinese are lying about not needing
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  Speaker 2: all those expensive chips for its AI version. Is is
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  Speaker 2: he right?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I possibly so. I mean it's it's it's almost
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  Speaker 3: impossible for we mearmmortals to know for sure. But but
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  Speaker 3: it's not just Elon. There are other tech insiders in
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  Speaker 3: Silicon Valley. And by the way, I should preface this
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  Speaker 3: by saying that a lot of the Silicon Valley tech
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  Speaker 3: guys CEOs, including Sam Altman, have been quite complimentary and
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  Speaker 3: very pragmatic and fair about their assessment of Deep Seek.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Sam Moltman said it was an impressive program,
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  Speaker 3: but it is it is questionable that it that a
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  Speaker 3: that the hedge fund company didn't build this for six
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  Speaker 3: million dollars US. I mean that is that is just
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  Speaker 3: so exponentially lower capex spend on AI. I mean, it's possible,
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  Speaker 3: and eventually we may find out, but it's very very
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  Speaker 3: hard to know it because of course China is so
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  Speaker 3: opaque about these things. But regardless of that, even there
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  Speaker 3: is also a belief that China has in fact a
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  Speaker 3: fair stock of the advanced Navidia latest generation chips. On
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  Speaker 3: one estimate was about fifty thousand of them. But even
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  Speaker 3: if that's the case, they won't last long and so
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  Speaker 3: moving forward the export the US export controls will be
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  Speaker 3: tougher and they will have an impact on China's AI development.
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  Speaker 3: So it's still unknown, but it's a long way to
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  Speaker 3: finding out.
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  Speaker 2: I saw Sam Moltman praise it, but that's you can
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  Speaker 2: only praise it for giving you answers that the communist
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  Speaker 2: the regime wants you to have. That's the big trouble
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  Speaker 2: with it. Today the Albanezi government appointed a new Chief Scientist,
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  Speaker 2: Professor Tony Hahmitt, whose first call was for Australia to
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  Speaker 2: get onto this AI revolution, which he said needed a
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  Speaker 2: lot more electricity, and his mind was opened in nuclear power,
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  Speaker 2: which of course the government wants to keep banned. What
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  Speaker 2: do we need to do well?
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  Speaker 3: It was I mean, I don't know Professor Hamid at all.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations on his appointment. I noticed also that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: one of the first things he said when it was
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  Speaker 3: reported was that that AI AI this is this is great.
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  Speaker 3: All that's going on in AI is great for Australia
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  Speaker 3: because AI will be reliant on on green energy or
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  Speaker 3: renewable energy. AI desperately needs energy. It sucks up an
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  Speaker 3: extraordinary amount of it, which is why no data center
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  Speaker 3: and no tech company is relying purely on wind and
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  Speaker 3: solar or ge thermal to power to permanently power twenty
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  Speaker 3: four to seven their data centers. It is why several
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  Speaker 3: of the big tech companies, from Amazon to Google to
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  Speaker 3: Microsoft are now locating their data center builds next to
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  Speaker 3: or very near to nuclear power plants. So what we
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  Speaker 3: need to do, I believe, and I think most people
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  Speaker 3: are seeing this, is that we need to stop the
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  Speaker 3: magical thinking that suggests that we are going to have
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  Speaker 3: a vibrant modern digital economy, or indeed any economy at all,
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  Speaker 3: based on wind and solar in the current phase. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying it won't be eventually with the battery storage
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  Speaker 3: eventually coming on stream. These things progress, they do, but
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  Speaker 3: there's no sign of the battery storage technology making the
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  Speaker 3: grade so far. Nuclear is a long way out, even
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  Speaker 3: if we start doing it now. So we have to
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  Speaker 3: be We have to prioritize an energy system that is
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  Speaker 3: energy agnostic to go to the power modern economy.
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  Speaker 2: True, Absolutely true. I don't know why this hasn't penetrated
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  Speaker 2: some skulls. Sandy Plunkett, thank you so much for your
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  Speaker 2: time there. What's good news today, But Unfortunately, because of
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  Speaker 2: a totally avoidable scandal, the Queensland government has halted all
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  Speaker 2: stage one or two hormone therapies for supposedly transgender children,
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  Speaker 2: while that holds an independent inquiry into all this. And
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  Speaker 2: I think God at last, because it's stunned me really
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  Speaker 2: how Australian medical authorities are. I've been keeping a lid
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  Speaker 2: on this whole transgender scandal. We've had experts from Australia,
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  Speaker 2: even in Britain saying Australian doctors are mutilating or giving
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  Speaker 2: puberty suppressing drugs two teenagers without proper science to back
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  Speaker 2: it up. And last year, researches commissioned by Britain's cast
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  Speaker 2: review into transgender care warned that Australia's guidelines didn't insist
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  Speaker 2: on properly screening these children first, or autism or sexual
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  Speaker 2: orientation or some other explanation for them, saying that they
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  Speaker 2: were in the wrong body. Now I don't think even
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  Speaker 2: they knew how bad it was, because now the news
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  Speaker 2: Queensland governor has heard shocking claims. So the care's sexual
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  Speaker 2: Health service even delivered apparently unauthorized gender service to forty
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  Speaker 2: two children without an agreed moddle of care, and the
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  Speaker 2: government said seventeen of those children were llegedly given hormone
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  Speaker 2: therapy in a way that may not align with treatment guidelines.
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  Speaker 2: Join me every Tuesday as a regular commentator about Canavan
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  Speaker 2: National senator A former Resources minister, Matt Good to see
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  Speaker 2: you again. You have been very vocal in this issue
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  Speaker 2: for a long time. Your reaction, well, it's quite news Andrew.
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  Speaker 5: As you've described there, the days of treating out children
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  Speaker 5: like guinea pigs has to end. Many of these gender
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  Speaker 5: transition so called gender transition interventions are being occurring without
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  Speaker 5: any proper testing or science behind the impact of what's
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  Speaker 5: going on. There's a particular story behind today's announcement around
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  Speaker 5: even the guidelines, the loose guidelines that do exist, being
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  Speaker 5: not adhered to. It really seems like the wild West
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  Speaker 5: in some of these gender transition clinics. That has to
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  Speaker 5: be rained in. But there's also the details behind this too.
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  Speaker 5: It's very important for people to understand that that some
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  Speaker 5: of the puby blockers here that we give to young
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  Speaker 5: children are not actually tested or trialed or approved for
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  Speaker 5: use on young children or for use to transition someone's gender.
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  Speaker 5: For example, take the drug Loupron, which is a drug
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  Speaker 5: that it has been approved, but approved to deal with
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  Speaker 5: statisticular can It's given to cancer patients and obviously those
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  Speaker 5: patients typically are much much older. And what's happening here
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  Speaker 5: is that doctors are able to prescribe it for off
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  Speaker 5: label use. It's not actually on the label to use
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  Speaker 5: it in this way off label use to our kids
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  Speaker 5: without any proper testing on what are the long term
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  Speaker 5: ramifications of giving a drug like that, which is about
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  Speaker 5: reducing someone's testosterone, that's how it controls the cancer growth,
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  Speaker 5: giving it to kids that can impact them for life.
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  Speaker 5: This is insane, It is wrong, and this suspension should
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  Speaker 5: occur across the country until we get to the bottom
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  Speaker 5: of what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh look, for all I'm praising what's happened. It's only
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  Speaker 2: one state and we don't know how wide the inquiry
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  Speaker 2: really will be. So you know, let's keep our fingers
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  Speaker 2: crossed to another thing. You and liberal MP Garth Hamilton
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  Speaker 2: have been have written a letter to our big banks,
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  Speaker 2: signed by another six coalition MPs, telling them to pull
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  Speaker 2: out of something called the net zero Banking Alliance. That's
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  Speaker 2: an a line global warming, et cetera. Et cetera, that
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  Speaker 2: are being actually deserted by most big American and Canadian
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  Speaker 2: banks since Donald Trump's selection. What is this alliance and
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  Speaker 2: why should our banks quit it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, the alliance Andrew was established a few years ago
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  Speaker 5: to try and pressure banks to not lend to so
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  Speaker 5: called carbon intensive activities like producing coal or gas. You
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: know that whole economy floats upon or even to things
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: like cattle farming as well. And all of our major
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  Speaker 5: banks members of this alliance, as you've hinted there, in
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  Speaker 5: the past few months, since Donald Trump's election, there's been
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  Speaker 5: a cavalcade of banks leaving this alliance. Most major banks
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  Speaker 5: in both the US now and Canada have left, names
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  Speaker 5: like JP Morgan.
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  Speaker 6: A Bank of.
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  Speaker 5: America have all left this alliance, and that leaves us
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  Speaker 5: a little bit isolated here, doesn't it in Australia that
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  Speaker 5: our banks still are potentially and all they have been
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  Speaker 5: actually applying these rules to all of those industries, including
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: cattle farmers. Some of our banks are placing restriction, the
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  Speaker 5: restrictions on lending to farmers now, can you believe it? Well,
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  Speaker 5: our farmers will be put at a disadvantage relative to
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  Speaker 5: their North American competitors. We compete with Canadian with US
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  Speaker 5: farmers to supply Asia, and if our financial institutions are
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  Speaker 5: imposing a level of red tape, bureaucracy and restrictions that
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  Speaker 5: do not exist in North America, we will be put
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  Speaker 5: at a disadvantage now, Andrew, as you know, under these
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  Speaker 5: last two years of labor government, our productivity has been
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  Speaker 5: in freefall. It's a big reason why our standard of
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: living is in freefall. And isn't it about time we
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: remove these barriers and red tape from our economy working
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  Speaker 5: and get our banks back to the priority. What should
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  Speaker 5: banks do? They should be there to facilitate legal economic trade.
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  Speaker 5: They should not be quasi regulators, self appointed regulators telling
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  Speaker 5: the rest of us what to do. They're not elected,
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  Speaker 5: they have no authority to impose these types of restrictions.
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  Speaker 5: They should stick to their business of lending and getting
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  Speaker 5: our economy moving.
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  Speaker 2: And they're strangling. These policies are strangling the economy. Just quickly, Matt.
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  Speaker 2: I've run out of time, but I need to ask
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  Speaker 2: you because you might be able to help. Have you
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: noticed the big pre election move by Jie Minister Chris
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Bow and our poll shows about the most unpopular Labor minister.
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  Speaker 2: There was a poll late last year, which is no
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: wonder with power prices the way they've gone, and it's gone,
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  Speaker 2: it seems to be almost into hiding. Is given just
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: three press conferences this month. The last speech he gave
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: that's listened on his website was in November, and four
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: weeks ago even canceled's account on next whereas one hundred
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and forty thousand followers and moved to the backwater of
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Blue Sky, where is just thirteen hundred followers and very
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: little backchat. Seems to me Labour wants bowing out of
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the spotlight. Have you seen him?
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen him. Fortunately I'm not missing Chris Oversummer.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Maybe run into him next week when we're back in Canberra.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: But you know, I mean, if this is some kind
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: of thing free card trick from Labor, I don't think
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: the Australian people will be fooled because it was the
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Prime Minister who promised Australians almost one hundred times before
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: the last election that he would he personally would cut
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: your power bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: if he were elected. So I don't think the Australian
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: people are mugs. I don't think they're going to let
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: labor get away with this. And it doesn't even matter
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: if they sacked but Chris Barin from the ministry. It's
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: ultimately the Prime Minister here which has to be accountable
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: for the promises he made.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: The damage is done. I think you should have been
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: sacked some time ago or quietly moved on. But now
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: they're going to pay the price Labor for what he's done.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Matt Kenevan, thank you so much for your time. After
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the break. Selenigum is craze. But doctor Phil actually joins
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's hunt for legal immigrants in America. That's transformed.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to clarify something. There was a confusion
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: there between me and my expert or the expert I
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: interviewed whether the one billion have been wiped off the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: value of Invidio, which is what I said, or the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: whole segment which is what she said, and we just
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: have it was off the one company there. The others
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: did lose money too, but one trillion dollars off one
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: company unbelievable a record. The Donald Trump Revolution is now
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: playing out live on television. It's absolutely dominating the cultur wars,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: and not just in America of course here as well.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Doctor Phil, the Star TV psychologist, has now joined Trump's
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: new board at TSAR as they arrested illegal immigrants, including pedophiles,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: murderous gangsters and throwing them out.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: Your mother's as citizen, Yes, but you're not. Nope, which
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: you've never been deported.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: Before, doctor Phil?
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: How do you know me?
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: No?
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I seen a doctor Phil on TV?
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well there's an example of sanctuary cities.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: We got an illegal I convicted of.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Sex crimes involving children, and he's walking the streets of Chicago.
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: You've been charged with sex crimes with children. Not really, no, really,
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: have never been deported.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But sees that that have actually triggered actresses singer Selena
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Gomez whose paternal grandparents were illegal immigrants.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: Only people are getting attacted children.
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: They don't understand.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: I'm so sorry.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: I wish I could.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Do something that he cared, not that the borders are
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Tom Homan cared one bit for an actress's tears.
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: President Trump won the election this one issue, secure in
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: our border and saving lives. This what happened on our
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: Southern board last four is the biggest national security throughout
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: this country scene, at least in my lifetime, because we've
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: got over two million known guitherway, You've got six hundred
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: percent increase in sex trafficking. We got a record number
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: of terrorists crossing the board on terrorist watch list. We
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: have quartermainy Americans diving patna coroming across.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: The open border.
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: We're going to do this job and we're going to
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: en force the laws of this country. If they don't
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: like it, then go to Congress and change the law.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: John, I mean this President Trump's fist. White House spokesman
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: showing Spice, showing Spicer, great to see you again. How's
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: this Trump revolution playing out in the US?
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: I think it's you know, when you look at some
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: of the most partisan Democratic operatives, even they are admitting
• 25:49
  Speaker 11: that Trump's had a fantastic first week. They might not
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: like some of the policies, but the reality is number one,
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: we're seeing a president in action again. After Joe Biden
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: kind of kept in the dark from US for four years.
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: We can't get enough of Donald Trump. He's everywhere all
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: the time. On Friday night, he was on the West coast.
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: It was eleven twenty four East coast time, and they
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: finally called what they what they call LID, which means
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: no more public events for the day. So with thirty
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: minutes left in the day, and they'd been going since
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: first thing in the morning, they called the LID with
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: twenty six minutes to go. I thought that was funny
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: because Joe Biden used to call it LID at like
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: two in the afternoon. So the pace has been breakneck.
• 26:31
  Speaker 11: It's been unbelievable. But more importantly, Andrew the President of
• 26:36
  Speaker 11: the United States, said on the campaign trail that he's
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: going to do a whole host of things, and one
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: by one he's doing them. And I don't know about
• 26:43
  Speaker 11: you folks there in Australia, but here in America, it's
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: not often that a politician actually follows through on what
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: they tell the voters they're going to do. So it's
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: a breath of fresh air.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Well, I think what he's doing on the borders, with
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the illegal immigrants and things like that, it's kind of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: really put an electric shock through leaders throughout the West
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: because so many people are fed up with seeing their
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: borders breach, their hospitality abused by newcomers. I mean, right
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: now we're seeing Australians, I think, in regards to hear
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: that Afghan use allegedly bashed the lifeguarded the swimming pool,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: for instance, just ask them not to do dangerous stunts
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: near other swimmers. How has the Trump approach on the borders,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: which has just taken right off in his first week,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: how has that gone down? Selena Gome is crying, but
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: meanwhile you've got even doctor phil In on the raids.
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: Here's the point that I think people have to understand,
• 27:41
  Speaker 11: whether it's the United States or Australia or Canada, your
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: number one job as an elected official and as a
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: government is to protect your people. And if you don't
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: have borders, you don't have a country. So we can
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: be as sympathetic as we want to be towards people.
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: I know I am towards a lot of people who
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: are fleeing harm, who are fleeing threats. But at the
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: end of the day, we have a system and a
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: process to come into this country. And if your first
• 28:07
  Speaker 11: act of coming to America is to break one of
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: our laws, then that's not a pretty good start. So
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: I just to me and if I can, just for
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: a moment, I was going to use this tomorrow on
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: my show. But since you brought up Selena Gomez, let
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: me just comment on that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Andrew.
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: When I saw this video of her that went viral
• 28:25
  Speaker 11: today weeping and sobbing, my immediately my heart went out
• 28:28
  Speaker 11: and I said, what is she?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: What's wrong?
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: What's going on? And she starts talking about I'm so
• 28:34
  Speaker 11: sick about what's happening to my people, and I thought
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: to myself, Oh, I better go look up, like, where's
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: she from? Do you know where Selena Gomez is from?
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: Andrew brand Prairie, Texas? Do you know where her dad
• 28:46
  Speaker 11: is from? He was born in Texas. Her people, She's
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: an American and so her people. Where was her? Where
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: were her tears when her people, fellow Americans were being
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: killed by people in this country illegal. I don't remember
• 29:01
  Speaker 11: any tears from Selena Gomez. This is probably why she
• 29:03
  Speaker 11: took the video down. And I'm not trying to be
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: mean torture, but I'm just saying that, at the end
• 29:10
  Speaker 11: of the day, the priority of people like Tom Holman
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: and President Trump is to go after people who are
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: criminals in this country here illegally. And I don't know
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: how many people have true sympathy for those folks.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I don't well, I thought when I heard that that
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: phrase really jarred with me too. But it's what you
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: now get with identity politics that somehow your ethnicity or
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: part of her ethnicity, you know, some of her parentage
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: is not Mexican. How it suddenly defines you more than
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the country you actually live in and supposedly swear religions to.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: This is one of the appalling things about identity politics.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: But you have actually seen the journalist appalled by this
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: can do stuff, particularly on the borders. I thought at
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Vice President j. D. Vance actually coined a meme in
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: respect bombs. You know, how often are we going to
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: hear this now? I don't care, Margaret. When he was
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: talking with the journalist about n Afgan man in Oklahoma,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: recently charged over an alleged Islamist terrorist plot, here goes
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the exchange.
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: Many people in the media and the Democratic Party said
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: that he was properly vetted.
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: Clearly he wasn't.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: I don't want my children to share a neighborhood with
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: people who are not properly vetted.
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: And because I don't want it for my kids, I'm
• 30:29
  Speaker 12: not going to force any other American citizens kids to
• 30:31
  Speaker 12: do that either no, and that was.
• 30:33
  Speaker 13: A very particular case.
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: It wasn't clear if he was radicalized when he got here.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Or while he was living.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I don't really care, Margaret.
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: I don't want that person in my country, and I
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: think most Americans agree with me.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I don't, Margaret. I think that's going to be a
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: very common response from now on.
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: You know, when he when they announced that he was
• 30:52
  Speaker 11: doing that interview with him, I said, I just I
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: don't like giving these folks the time of day. But
• 30:56
  Speaker 11: then I thought to myself, if anyone's good like JD
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: just it's almost like for sport. He wants to go
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: out there and just show what's what I'm going to do,
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: and he runs circles around her. Look, they should have
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: you know, in America, we have like an R or
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: D after our name, so if you're from California, it says,
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: you know, D California. I think hers should be D CBS,
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: because she truly was sitting there spewing Democratic talking points,
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: and so I just don't find I find it amazing
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: that people like Margaret Brennan continue to think that they're
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: going to outsmart Jed e Vance. He has shown this
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: over and over again that he can get the better
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: of them and make them look really stupid. And I
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: just wonder, Andrew, do other journalists look at that exchange
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: and say, you know what, I'll pass.
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: I noticed that she switched to the topic immediately after
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: he said that Milania Trump's released her official White House
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: photo as first Lady. Again, very striking pose, you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and fingers on the desk like she. I think that
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: so Underwood did that to pose as the first Lady.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: What does this photo tell us and how does the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: chime with the Milenia Trump that you knew from your
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: time in the White House.
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: That's actually a really good question. Missus Trump the first
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: term spent a lot of time with her youngest son, Baron.
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: Right now that Baron's gone, I think she feels ready
• 32:25
  Speaker 11: to go this time. You've seen her more publicly in
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: the first few days of this administration than we did
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: in quite a while at the beginning of the first term.
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: I love that photo though, because it's striking, its elegant,
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: but it's also powerful. She's got the Washington Monument in
• 32:39
  Speaker 11: the background, hands on the desk, as you said, but
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: it just exudes elegance and power at the same time.
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: It's almost as if if you captioned it, it would
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: say I'm going to get stuff done.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: That's how it struck me as well. Sean Spicer, always
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: great to talk to you. See you next week, Pleasure
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Andrew you bet after the break. Penny Wong was at
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: the big ceremony at Alschwitz today. I'm going to show
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: you and let's see if you react as I did.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe I should be more generous, but to b Frank,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I got angry seeing for him minutes of Penny Wong
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and Poland. Today she was at the eighteenth anniversary the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: liberation of Alschwitz, where a million Jews were murdered. Now
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: woe back at home, as in effect whipped up a
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: new and shocking explosion of Jew hatred by a constant
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: attacks on Israel. And while she was now scrambling to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: contain the political former all bit of going, you know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to Alschwitz, visiting where Jews were murdered by Jew haters
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: around eighty years ago, as your refuse on a trip
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to Israel last year to visit where twelve hundred J's
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: were murdered by ju haters just fifteen months ago. Oh, look,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that could be too political matter friend Muslims might cost
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: labor vote. I'm not alone.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: I was in Israel in January twenty twenty four at
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: the same time as the Foreign Minister was there, and
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: I was very disappointed and in fact quite hurt, as
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: I'm sure many Australians were, that she wasn't able to
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: visit the killing fields of southern Israel as she's now
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: visiting the killing fields of Poland, because I think being
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: there on the spot is terribly important.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: More important than Penny Wong bowing ahead in memory of
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Jews murdered before she was even born, is Wong as
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: our foreign minister today fighting for Jews right here, right now.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Don't forget. It's not just Donald Trump, and it's not
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: even the most radical around the world, like Italy for instance.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: We are seeing new political leaders of the right who
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: are transforming politics and culture. You wonder could Peter Dutton
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: join them. None of these new leaders has worked a
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: bigger miracles so far.
• 35:10
  Speaker 13: Then.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Argentina's eccentric President Javier Milay, who had davofs last Thursday,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: called for a new alliance of leaders to join in
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: helping him save the West from decline by fighting for freedom,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: including in their economies.
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: I have found annahs in this fight for the ideas
• 35:31
  Speaker 13: of freedom in every corner of the world, from the
• 35:35
  Speaker 13: amazing El Master to that fierce Talan lady, my dear
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: George Maloney, from bucell in Salvador to Victor Auburn in Hungary,
• 35:43
  Speaker 13: from Benjamin Nataniaho in Israel to Donald Trump in the
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: United States. Slowly and international alliance has been forming among
• 35:53
  Speaker 13: all those nations which like howurs want to be free
• 35:56
  Speaker 13: and believe in the ideas of liberty Soutimately, what I'm
• 36:01
  Speaker 13: proposing is that we make the West greater, gain freedom, freedom, freedom.
• 36:05
  Speaker 13: May the forces of Heaven be with us. Thank you
• 36:08
  Speaker 13: all very much. I'm longing freedom, damn it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: Now.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Malayia is a former economics academic and radio host, the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: free market libertarian who selected president just over a year
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: ago after promising shock therapy for Argentina's sick economy, promising
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: to put a chainsaw on is literally through government spending
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: to actually scrap eleven of the nineteen government departments mil mil.
• 36:41
  Speaker 14: Mil mina we afida I'll get.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: In fact, since becoming president, Malaya has got rid of
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: thirty five thousand public servants, which is almost exactly as
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: many as our Albanzi government has added in its time
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: for something had to be done. In Argentina a year
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: ago it was a basket case. Left wing and populist
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: politicians had destroyed one of the world's richer countries. Inflation
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: was more than two hundred percent. Half the people were
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: living in poverty, the economy was in deep recession. Government
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: debt and taxas sky high. So has Belay's shop therapy,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: A big dose of free market economics actually worked. Joining
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: me as Patrick Horan from the MacArthur Center of Research
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Center at George Mason University studying free markets. Patrick Horan
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: has written about Malay for This City Journal. Patrick Horan,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: thank you so much indeed for joining me. What has
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Milay done in his year and a bit and has
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: it worked?
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: So?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: They administration has cut federal space by about thirty percent,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: It's cut the number of federal ministries in half, and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: then on average it has removed about one regulation per
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: day across a variety of sector's housing, imports, airlines, et cetera,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and so farm a ways. Approach has been working very
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: well in many ways. Inflation has fallen substantially. The country
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: is running budget surpluses for the first time since twenty twenty,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: and the economy has emerged out of a recession. The
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: economy had been a recession when Mala first took off.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: As it brief it got worse. But now the country's
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: out of recession and the Argentina is forecasted to have
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: a good year in twenty twenty five. It's forecasted to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: have strong growth, about five percent real GDP growth, and
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: it's forecasted for inflation to keep falling. So infuation had
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: been triple digits on a year every year basis, it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: going to be way way lower than that. It's going
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to be the lowest inflation since I believe twenty seventeen
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: or eighteen.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just like you know, a free map is fantasy,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: a story too good to be true. I mean, it's
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: just incredible. Melay has been saying, look, cutting spending is
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: going to hurt a lot of people for now, obviously
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: people losing their jobs, shock therapy, but he said it
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: is necessary and things will get better. Have Argentinians accepted
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: this pain? Are they staying with him on the journey?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But to the polls saying I think.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So because there is pop very headphone a little bit,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: but now it's quite high. It's in the world of
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: mid fifties, which is pretty high for him, So you're right.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: At the onset of his presidency, he warned that austerity
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: would be quite painful, and he was correct. A lot
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: of employees lost their jobs. There have been some presevere cuts.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: But again, the economy is now rebounding. It's growing very quickly.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And it's not to say there aren't serious problems. There
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: are still very high poverty in Argentina. It's around thirty
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: five percent, which is very high. That's said, it's actually
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: fallen considerably over the past quarter or so.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Now we saw Milay in Davos just last week issuing
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a worldwide pleague, come join me in saving the West
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: because it's so sclerotic. It's being buried under welfareism, sort
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: of corporatism. Economies have slack, lots of government spending. He said,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: come and join me, Come and join Donald Trump. Italy's
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Georgia Maloney, do you think this is a
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  Speaker 2: real alliance or at least, you know, a sort of
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  Speaker 2: concatenation of like minded And what is the change they
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  Speaker 2: are offering? What are the lessons that Milay wants the
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  Speaker 2: world to learn from what he's doing.
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  Speaker 1: Great, So Maway really is shocking Argentina, but he's shocking
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  Speaker 1: a country that that's so many problems for so long.
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  Speaker 1: So you really need someone to really be quite radical
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  Speaker 1: in promoting freedom, putting free markets, and you're a the
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  Speaker 1: los throsis throughout western country, and he's saying, no, we
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  Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. And I think when you have
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  Speaker 1: years and years of sclerosis, years and years of complacency,
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  Speaker 1: you start to fall behind. You have all sorts of problems,
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  Speaker 1: so you really do need a shock to the system
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  Speaker 1: to get things on the right track. So I hope
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  Speaker 1: he's right. I hope all the world, but all the
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  Speaker 1: countries of the West, embrace more free markets. I hope
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  Speaker 1: the understand the importance of free markets in promoting productivity,
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  Speaker 1: because productivity is really what you need need to boost
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  Speaker 1: real output. So it's really it's really great that they
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  Speaker 1: is being fiscally disciplined, which is rare in the West.
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  Speaker 1: And he's also trying to gear of all these bad
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  Speaker 1: regulations that are that are hindering people from from from prospering.
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  Speaker 2: Patrick Horan, thank you so much. Indeed, for your time.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for having me.
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  Speaker 2: After the break, the Age of Wok is dead, so
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  Speaker 2: I hope that Hollywood and New Zealand still haven't got
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  Speaker 2: the message transgender drug lords and whiles coming out. I said,
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  Speaker 2: the age of work is now over, but I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to get give you two extraordinary examples where the dregs
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  Speaker 2: of it are still clinging on. First, Hollywood last week
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  Speaker 2: showered the movie Amelia Perez with no fewer than thirteen
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  Speaker 2: Oscar nominations, even though it's a bomb that loss of
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  Speaker 2: reported fifteen million dollars of a small budget and scores
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  Speaker 2: just twenty four percent from audiences on the Rotten Tomato website.
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  Speaker 2: Why are the nominations? It's a musical about a Mexican
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  Speaker 2: drug lord who is transgender gets the surgery, as played
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  Speaker 2: by an actor who's transgender too.
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  Speaker 10: Hello, very nice to meet and let you know about
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  Speaker 10: See I See, I See.
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  Speaker 12: Men to Woman, A woman to men, Man to women
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  Speaker 12: from pianist.
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  Speaker 6: U Vagina.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is the panel. Will Kingston, hosts of Fire
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  Speaker 2: at Will podcast from the Spectator on politics and culture,
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  Speaker 2: and Scarne's host Janika Di Giorgio now with her own
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  Speaker 2: show here every Friday at five pm. Will Kenson on
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  Speaker 2: the top of everything else, that's a taste question making
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  Speaker 2: a musical starring Selena Gomez my dad that makes light
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  Speaker 2: of a drug war that so far I had one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand victims go missing.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, Andrew, I was feeling particularly masochistic one afternoon, and
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  Speaker 12: I actually watched this movie and I can confirm it's
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  Speaker 12: like taking a train trip with someone who's needed a
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  Speaker 12: shower for a long time. It isn't merely bad. It
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  Speaker 12: is unpleasant in a very hostile way. It is extraordinary
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  Speaker 12: that this movie has got any nominations because it's truly awful.
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  Speaker 12: The substanti point I would make is for a long time,
• 43:46
  Speaker 12: to quote the late great Andrew Bright, butart politics has
• 43:50
  Speaker 12: been downstream of culture. And one of the interesting things
• 43:53
  Speaker 12: about Trump, one of the many interesting things I think
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: he's inverted that I think culture will now be downstream
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  Speaker 12: from politics. I think Trump is changing our culture in
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  Speaker 12: a really interesting way, as he has done. But I
• 44:05
  Speaker 12: think this has been turbocharged since he's been elected, and
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  Speaker 12: across a range of issues. You're now seeing that he's
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  Speaker 12: changing what we can talk about. He's changing and moving
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  Speaker 12: the Overton Window, and I think you're going to see
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  Speaker 12: this sort of stuff in Hollywood become just more and
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  Speaker 12: more marginalized and frankly, look more and more silly because
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  Speaker 12: Trump is changing the culture. This stuff, I think maybe
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  Speaker 12: four or five years ago would have been clapped and applauded,
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  Speaker 12: and now people are just laughing at it for the
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  Speaker 12: nonsense that it.
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  Speaker 2: Is neatly a neat little twist there. Will, I appreciated that, Danika,
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  Speaker 2: what did you make of all that?
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  Speaker 10: Well, you wouldn't get me watching it, Andrew that I
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  Speaker 10: don't often feel masochistic, and I will certainly not be
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  Speaker 10: watching this film. In fact, when I first saw that
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  Speaker 10: clip that you just played, I thought you were having
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  Speaker 10: us on.
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  Speaker 12: I thought it was a joke.
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  Speaker 10: I can't believe that they actually made that song into
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  Speaker 10: a movie. I just think it just shows just how
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  Speaker 10: woke Hollywood has gone. It's been going woke for so
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  Speaker 10: many years. And I don't think it's a coincidence that
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  Speaker 10: days after Donald Trump makes that executive order to only
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  Speaker 10: recognize two genders, that they suddenly come out and say, congratulations,
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  Speaker 10: we're giving you all these nominations. I actually disagree with
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  Speaker 10: Will on this one. I don't think that Hollywood will
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  Speaker 10: ever change. It was only a couple of days ago
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  Speaker 10: where Disney was forced to abandon a trans storyline for
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  Speaker 10: a kid's animated film. They've got superheroes, female superheroes being empowered.
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  Speaker 10: They've got storylines. They're changing Star Wars for example, and
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  Speaker 10: Marvel to make it more inclusive and woke. The Academy
• 45:39
  Speaker 10: has got deipolicies in place for its Best Picture Film category.
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  Speaker 10: I can't see it changing. I do agree that Donald
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  Speaker 10: Trump is changing the world, but Hollywood will always remain
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  Speaker 10: the same as to not offend minority groups.
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  Speaker 2: If an industry depends on the audience is cash, I
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  Speaker 2: think they could be led to change eventually, it will
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  Speaker 2: take a long time.
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  Speaker 7: You're right there.
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  Speaker 2: Another example of woke clinging on, which might explain My
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand as getting poorer in the government more in debt,
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  Speaker 2: even though it's under a supposedly conservative leadership. Now this
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  Speaker 2: government has spent four million dollars on a project which,
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  Speaker 2: among many things or only a few things, plays whale
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  Speaker 2: songs to Cowrie trees to make them better, even using
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  Speaker 2: married potions from whale oil. The government funded Orange or
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  Speaker 2: Well Being Project says in the fight against Carie Dieback
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  Speaker 2: and Myrtle rush to diseases, Mary have been seeking solutions
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  Speaker 2: that call on their knowledge systems and understandings of the
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  Speaker 2: physical and metaphysical elements of the universe. And the soundscape
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  Speaker 2: that it plays at the sick trees includes sounds of
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  Speaker 2: healthy trees, whatever that means, and a whale song of
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  Speaker 2: the tree supposed kin the Southern right whale will. How
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  Speaker 2: can absolute nonsense on tribal sticks like that get adopted,
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  Speaker 2: funded and promoted by a conservative government because I don't.
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  Speaker 12: Think that the politicians in the Conservative government would have
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  Speaker 12: known about it. Andrew, even though our Kiwi cousins have
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  Speaker 12: a pretty piddling small economy, even they for them, four
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  Speaker 12: million dollars isn't much money. And this goes to the
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  Speaker 12: administrative state. You know, when Donald Trump talks about the
• 47:29
  Speaker 12: deep state, he's not being conspiratorial. He's just saying that
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: countries like Australia, New Zealand and the US have this
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  Speaker 12: huge layer of bureaucracy that actually have a lot of
• 47:37
  Speaker 12: leeway to make these sorts of decisions, and often they
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: are decisions that run counter to the politicians that are
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  Speaker 12: meant to be responsible for them. So I imagine I
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  Speaker 12: hope that the conservative politicians would see this and stop it.
• 47:50
  Speaker 12: But it just goes to show that really you have
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  Speaker 12: to get rid of all of this administrative, woke bureaucracy
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  Speaker 12: before you can affect real change.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know which bureaucracy is doing it, the Health
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: minister is in charge or the science mist that they
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  Speaker 2: are to get off their backsides and do something. Deanika,
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  Speaker 2: what do you make of it?
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  Speaker 10: Well, I think that this just goes to show again
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  Speaker 10: it's these governments that are looking to appease minorities Andrew,
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  Speaker 10: and we've seen it here in Australia. It certainly wasn't
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  Speaker 10: to the tune of four million dollars, but we've seen
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  Speaker 10: here in Australia three hundred thousand dollar grants being given
• 48:21
  Speaker 10: to investigate indigenous song lines. It just doesn't end. And
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  Speaker 10: I think that Donald Trump has sent a blue made
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  Speaker 10: a blueprint for the world to follow that you don't
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  Speaker 10: have to follow the status quo, you don't have to
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  Speaker 10: tiptoe around groups, you don't have to say I'm worried
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  Speaker 10: about being offensive, and that's what I think New Zealand
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  Speaker 10: has done.
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  Speaker 13: Whether they're conservative or not.
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  Speaker 10: They're worried about votes, they're looking to appease the minority,
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  Speaker 10: and we've got to start pushing back.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's right, Denika nicely said Denika to Giorgio Wilkinson.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you both for your time. That's it from me,
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  Speaker 2: coming up now, Sherry markson Good n