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Vivek Ramaswamy - For Ohio Governor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Eight o five here at fifty five care See You
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  Speaker 1: Talk station. My name is Brian Thomas, hosted to the
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  Speaker 1: fifty five Krese Morning Show, and I love talking with
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  Speaker 1: Vike Romusromi hopefully the next govern of the state of Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: which should be the next governor, demonstrably far better than
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  Speaker 1: his opposition, Amy Lockdown acting v Vike ramasm Me. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to the Morning Show. Good to hear from you today, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing doing really well? You know it's become
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  Speaker 1: a common occurrence here in the Morning Show. Every Monday
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  Speaker 1: at seven to twenty, we start a conversation with the
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  Speaker 1: former vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smithman,
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  Speaker 1: and he ev late has been singing your praises and
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  Speaker 1: encouraging my listening audience to get involved in your campaign
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  Speaker 1: and of course vote for you. In November, you're having
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  Speaker 1: an event with where you are appearing as the keynote
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  Speaker 1: speaker on August thirty first. Christopher Smithment's kind of behind
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  Speaker 1: this effort at Jim and Jack's and I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to that one, how about you, sir.
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  Speaker 3: We're really looking forward to it. It's gonna be a
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  Speaker 3: good time. It's gonna be a good way to tell
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  Speaker 3: people just directly who we are and what we stand for.
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  Speaker 3: And that's something I've been doing throughout this race, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: A little definitely. To my appoll is we show up
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  Speaker 2: at town halls, we show up at county fairs, we
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  Speaker 2: take questions unscripted. That's the way I not only want
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  Speaker 2: to run this campaign, I want to continue to lead
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  Speaker 2: this state as a governor who listens to the people
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  Speaker 2: of Ohio. And I'm excited about what we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be able to achieve. I mean, look, it's a unique
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  Speaker 2: moment for Ohio. On one hand, we can continue to
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  Speaker 2: step on the gas on economic expansion, raise wages, bring
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  Speaker 2: more high paying jobs to the state, takes our education system,
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  Speaker 2: or on the other hand, depends on what we do
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  Speaker 2: in November. You could look at high paying jobs fleeing
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  Speaker 2: this state, electric bills and healthcare costs continuing to go up,
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  Speaker 2: and public schools continuing to fail in their outcomes. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the choice that's on the ballot this November,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm excited for us to get it right.
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  Speaker 1: Vivigrounds me. I appreciate and want to emphasize your unscripted
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  Speaker 1: ability to deal with people answer questions on the fly.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need one because you have confidence in your
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  Speaker 1: positions and you're prepared to defend them and articulate the
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  Speaker 1: reasons why at any given moment in time if you
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  Speaker 1: have to rely on notes or you can't. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want to answer questions or hide from questions. That to
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  Speaker 1: me is a real red flag for people when they're
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  Speaker 1: considering who's going to be the head of the entire
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  Speaker 1: state of Ohio. And do you inspire me when I
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  Speaker 1: hear you speak viviak Ramaswami and it was something to
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  Speaker 1: be said about being wed to some core principles and
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  Speaker 1: being able to defend them. I mean, I got to
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  Speaker 1: do it every morning here, I get questions on the fly.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to be asked of me, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, shouldn't you have that sound set of principles.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to be the governor of this state,
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  Speaker 2: if you actually want to lead, then I do think
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  Speaker 2: that's a requirement. My opponent has spent eighteen months of
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  Speaker 2: this campaign without any evidence of her taking a single
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  Speaker 2: voter question. But I don't want to waste time talking
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  Speaker 2: about her. I want to share with you why I'm
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  Speaker 2: doing what I'm doing. And Cincinnati yesterday. I'll actually be
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  Speaker 2: back in Cincinnati later today, so we're crisscrossing the state,
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  Speaker 2: but it's two Cincinnati days back to back for me.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm doing this because I'm grateful to Cincinnati, to Ohio,
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  Speaker 2: to our country for giving me opportunities in this state
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  Speaker 2: that would not have been available to a kid like
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  Speaker 2: me in any other country on planet Earth. And I
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  Speaker 2: do believe in that American dream. I do believe that
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  Speaker 2: the American dream is real, and I want to pass
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  Speaker 2: that on to our kids and their generations so they're
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  Speaker 2: able to do even bigger things than I did, but
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  Speaker 2: to be able to do it by staying here, right
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  Speaker 2: here in Ohio. And I think Cincinnati, particularly Bright, is
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  Speaker 2: ready to turn a corner. I've spent a lot of
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  Speaker 2: time in my hometown. I think that if we're able
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  Speaker 2: to clean up crime in the inner city, I think
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  Speaker 2: if we're able to get smart about how we about
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  Speaker 2: our becoming a zero income tax state, some of the
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  Speaker 2: other economic development policy, I think we can bring a
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  Speaker 2: boom to the Queen City again. We're a state of
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  Speaker 2: great cities. Okay, between Cincinnati and Dayton and Cleveland and Akron, Youngstown, Columbus, Toledo,
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  Speaker 2: you name it. That is an advantage for Ohio. But
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  Speaker 2: we're not fully taking advantage of our great cities like Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 2: until we create clean up urban crime, until we bring
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  Speaker 2: down the cost of electricity, until we address some of
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  Speaker 2: the workforce shortages through improving our education system. Those are
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  Speaker 2: the things I'm ready to roll up my sleeves and
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  Speaker 2: get started on starting in January. And we have a
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  Speaker 2: lot to do starting on day one.
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  Speaker 1: And since you mentioned electricity, of course, that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the dominant conversation points when we're talking about artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: A growing outrage over AI data center showing up at
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  Speaker 1: people's neighborhoods. The biggest arguments consumption of power, which is
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  Speaker 1: going to lead to higher energy bills, noise, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: unsightly reality those although they're no different than an Amazon facility.
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  Speaker 1: And also the artificial intelligence itself I think is behind driving,
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  Speaker 1: behind driving some of this, But all of the problems
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  Speaker 1: that people are complaining about can be addressed up front,
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  Speaker 1: with the exception of what AI does. Maybe eliminates job,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's behind some nefarious decision making, but we can't
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  Speaker 1: undo that. I don't believe it's out there. It's real.
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  Speaker 1: The genies out of the bottle of Pandora's box is open.
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  Speaker 1: We either control AI here in this country or we
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  Speaker 1: let the Chinese Communist Party do it. But eliminating in
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  Speaker 1: any given backyard a data center is not going to
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  Speaker 1: change that reality. But can we not get in front
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  Speaker 1: of the other things that people are raising, water consumption,
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  Speaker 1: noise and power.
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  Speaker 2: I think the addressing the issues is the right way
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  Speaker 2: to look at this. Brian and I want to separate
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  Speaker 2: the future conversation that the country in the world is
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  Speaker 2: going to have to have about AI from the conversation
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  Speaker 2: that the AI data centers are having on Ohio, and
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  Speaker 2: I think there we can really take some common sense measures.
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  Speaker 2: I've laid out a clear set of commitments. I made
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  Speaker 2: a pledge to ohioans three core commitments, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the starting point for the data center policy and legislation
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  Speaker 2: that I'm rolling out, which says that if a data
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  Speaker 2: center is built in your community, it has to directly
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  Speaker 2: benefit the ohiolands in that community, or else it shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be built. That's common sense and what has laid out
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  Speaker 2: as a clear plan to say, if you live in
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  Speaker 2: a community with the data center OKA in most Ohao
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  Speaker 2: counties that will include the entire county. If you live
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  Speaker 2: near that data center, you're going to have free electricity,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have lower property taxes, and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have the same air and water quality standards applied
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  Speaker 2: to that data center as to any other development. Without exceptions.
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  Speaker 2: All three of those things are achievable. And if we
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  Speaker 2: combine that with prioritizing the redevelopment of abandoned industrial sites
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  Speaker 2: instead of interrupting farmland, that is a common sense data
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  Speaker 2: center policy framework that says if that the case, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it has a chance to be built, and if it's
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  Speaker 2: not the case, then it's not going to be built.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to pass a law early on. Put
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  Speaker 2: this issue as a problem behind us. That this time
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  Speaker 2: next year people aren't concerned about data centers because either
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  Speaker 2: they're not getting built on those terms, or they're geting
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  Speaker 2: built on terms that actually lift up local communities.
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  Speaker 1: What's the little little libertarian media has to address the
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  Speaker 1: idea of having some other business pay for my electricity.
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  Speaker 1: I'm never interested in picking another man's pocket to pay
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  Speaker 1: my bills. But how would that How would that work?
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  Speaker 1: Unless we can get small modular reactors which may have
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  Speaker 1: an abundance of extra leftover electricity, in which case I'll
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  Speaker 1: take it. But we can't get to SMRs without dealing
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  Speaker 1: with federal level regulation reform.
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  Speaker 2: See, you're you're hitting on the right point. Whether it's
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  Speaker 2: an SMR, whether it is a large modular reactor, okay,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's whether it's large scale energy production. This is
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  Speaker 2: the point, Brian, is you know we don't we reject socialism.
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  Speaker 2: That's not the right answer. Spend printing government money or
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  Speaker 2: penalizing one person to redistribute to another. No, that's not
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  Speaker 2: what we're doing. When a data center is going to
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  Speaker 2: want to build power generation, what we're seeing is they're
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  Speaker 2: going to need overage. Okay, So if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: do seven hundred megawatts of off take, as a data
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  Speaker 2: center or any other developer, you're going to want to
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  Speaker 2: build a gigawatt of production, an extra three hundred meg
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  Speaker 2: watts or so for behind the meter power generation. Just
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  Speaker 2: to do the math on this, an extra three hundred megawats, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: would power three hundred thousand homes in this state. An
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  Speaker 2: extra one hundred megawatts, which is even just a third
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  Speaker 2: of that excess, will power one hundred thousand homes, which
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  Speaker 2: in most of Ohio's counties could effectively be the entire county.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So thinking about that, this is how when
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  Speaker 2: you understand and analyze the issue in the actual fact,
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  Speaker 2: you realize what's actually possible. I do think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of counties, I do think a lot of localities, through
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  Speaker 2: no fault of their own, have been outmatched in some
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  Speaker 2: of these negotiations. And I think what makes sense is
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  Speaker 2: to have a governor that says, here are statewide standards
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  Speaker 2: were setting to help those localities. I don't think the
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  Speaker 2: people who are doing these who are taking on these
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  Speaker 2: projects at the local government level or in any way
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  Speaker 2: that people are the good hearted citizens trying to serve
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  Speaker 2: their local communities. But I think they need a governor
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  Speaker 2: at the top who really brings a level of standards
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  Speaker 2: statewide to this that makes their jobs locally easier. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I'm going to do. We're going to sign up
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  Speaker 2: into the legislation early on in my first term, in
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  Speaker 2: my first year, and what we're going to do is
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  Speaker 2: be very quick about it, and once that's done, I
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  Speaker 2: think we'll have a framework that leads the country that
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  Speaker 2: really shows how it's done, which is to say, if
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  Speaker 2: a data center is built in your community, it will
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  Speaker 2: never be a curse for the people in that community,
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  Speaker 2: as it feels like to many today. It will only
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  Speaker 2: be a blessing. And if it's not a blessing, then
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  Speaker 2: it won't be built.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like a plan apply and it's vv viv e
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  Speaker 1: K four Ohio dot com. You can read the entire
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  Speaker 1: plan right there on his website, along with his other
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  Speaker 1: policy platforms. Mister Ramaswami, I got to ask you about
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  Speaker 1: property tax since you just mentioned the words property tax.
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  Speaker 1: I interviewed Representative Mark Heiner was last week about Joint
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  Speaker 1: Resolution seven, which will be a ballot initiative that we
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  Speaker 1: could vote on about eliminating the property tax for primary
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  Speaker 1: residences throughout the state of Ohio, resulting in about a
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  Speaker 1: ten billion dollar network loss of taxes to the government,
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  Speaker 1: but ten versus the twenty billion that we if we
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  Speaker 1: eliminated it completely. So it's an alternative to the property
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  Speaker 1: tax elimination Amendment. The petition is circulating around, probably on
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  Speaker 1: the ballot next year. What's your reaction to that Joint
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  Speaker 1: Resolution seven? Or do you have an alternative method to
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  Speaker 1: lower our property taxes? In Ohio?
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  Speaker 2: There are a number of alternative proposals, but they're all
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  Speaker 2: coming from a place of seeing the obvious. Property taxes
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  Speaker 2: are insanely high in the state. They're unacceptably high in
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  Speaker 2: the state. And my observation in all of this is
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  Speaker 2: that is particularly a post pandemic phenomenon. Okay, nobody really,
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  Speaker 2: not that many people before the pandemic in twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 2: think about this. We're talking about property taxes. But afterwards,
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  Speaker 2: the reason property taxes went up is the federal government
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  Speaker 2: under Biden printed a whole bunch of money inflated assets,
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  Speaker 2: you know, really just ran the federal Federal Reserve right
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  Speaker 2: the money printer on while and then that caused all
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  Speaker 2: asset prices to go up, stocks, big coin, you name it.
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  Speaker 2: But it also caused home prices to go up. And
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  Speaker 2: in our state, a lot of people don't own those
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  Speaker 2: other assets, but their main asset they own is their home.
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  Speaker 2: When the government shows up and says, congratulations, you're rich,
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  Speaker 2: your home's worth more, that wasn't a financial blessing. It
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  Speaker 2: felt like a financial curse because you owed two or
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  Speaker 2: three times more in property taxes. That's what happened, and
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  Speaker 2: wages did not go up, Social Security payments did not
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  Speaker 2: go up at the same rate. So people felt a
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  Speaker 2: pinch and it's unreasonable and it's unacceptable. So my plan,
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  Speaker 2: having made that observation, since we're going to fix that
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  Speaker 2: problem as the first step, how are you going to
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  Speaker 2: fix it? We're going to roll back the property taxes
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  Speaker 2: to where they were before the end of the pandemic. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that makes sense, and then cap the growth from there.
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  Speaker 2: So go back and look at those pre pandemic property
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  Speaker 2: tax bills and compare them to what you're paying now.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to pay what you're paying now. You're
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  Speaker 2: going to pay what you were paying then, which will
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  Speaker 2: represent the big I gets property tax cut that Ohio
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  Speaker 2: has ever seen in our history. It will also represent
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  Speaker 2: the biggest property tax cut in the country, likely in
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  Speaker 2: any state in the Union. And I'm going to deliver
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  Speaker 2: that by legislation. So that's something where I know I
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  Speaker 2: can get that done in the first budget cycle next year,
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  Speaker 2: such that by this time next year, that problem too
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  Speaker 2: is solved. At least the first step of it, and
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  Speaker 2: then if we need to explore other steps beyond that,
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  Speaker 2: I'm very open to it. But that much I know
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  Speaker 2: I can get done in the first half of next year.
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  Speaker 2: And unlike my opponent, you know, be it on data centers,
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  Speaker 2: be it on property taxes, I'm offering practical solutions, ambitious solutions,
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  Speaker 2: but practical, achievable solutions. And I do think at this
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  Speaker 2: point in our state's history, Brian, we do need a
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  Speaker 2: businessman at the top. Yes, okay, I think our state
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  Speaker 2: needs someone to come in and, you know, roll up
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  Speaker 2: its leaves and actually manage the balance sheet, the income statement,
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  Speaker 2: the line item, to protect taxpayer dollars and put that
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  Speaker 2: money back in your pockets. Right people struggle with affordability
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  Speaker 2: concerns right now. People are struggling to make ends meet.
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  Speaker 2: It is a moral issue when the government is wasting
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  Speaker 2: that money instead of putting it back in your pocket
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  Speaker 2: in the form of property tax relief, in the form
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  Speaker 2: of income tax relief, in the form of prosecuting medicaid
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  Speaker 2: fraud by the billions, putting that money back in your pocket.
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  Speaker 2: Handling the energy issues in the way that we discussed,
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  Speaker 2: including producing more energy, lowering your electric bills. That is
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  Speaker 2: a moral mandate right now, and I think I'm certainly
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  Speaker 2: the only person in this race, and I believe perhaps
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  Speaker 2: the best positioned person in this state to get that done,
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  Speaker 2: and that is why I'm running.
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  Speaker 1: I heard the fraud word in there, and before we
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  Speaker 1: part company, I don't think it's a big ask your
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  Speaker 1: commitment to the voters in the state of Ohio and
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  Speaker 1: all taxpayers, a commitment to eliminate fraud, waste, and abuse
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is a moral mandate. It is a moral requirement.
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  Speaker 2: I've been crystal clear on that in a way that
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  Speaker 2: my opponent has not. And I think that that money
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  Speaker 2: belongs to you, to hard working, law abiding Ohioans. And
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  Speaker 2: this isn't a small issue. We're talking by the billiings
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  Speaker 2: millions to return back to hard working Ohioans in the
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  Speaker 2: form of health savings accounts, copay assistance, lower premiums. That's
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  Speaker 2: for whom a lot of these programs were intended, rather
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  Speaker 2: than for the fraudsters who are exploiting the system. And
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  Speaker 2: I do think we need to get more disciplined and
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  Speaker 2: more aggressive in prosecuting the bad actors.
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  Speaker 1: That is a non partisan issue. And a non partisan commitment,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm shocked that Amy Actor wouldn't come out and
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  Speaker 1: say the same dang thing. Via Ramaswami Goto's website. Help
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  Speaker 1: them out, participate, get a yard sign, v Vague viv
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  Speaker 1: ek for Ohio dot Com. Go ahead, and let's say.
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  Speaker 2: One more thing is I think that I'm not asking
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  Speaker 2: for anybody who doesn't agree with me on these core
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  Speaker 2: issues or share our values to vote for me. What
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying is if you share those values, we require
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  Speaker 2: you to come out and vote me too. Our kids
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  Speaker 2: and our grandkids feel sure. Depends on it. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what this November is about. And I think people are
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  Speaker 2: starting to wake up to the stakes. Brian. It is
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  Speaker 2: the most important election for governor we've ever had, one
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  Speaker 2: that is going to affect your quality of life and
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  Speaker 2: the way your kids thrive in this state. I'm asking
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  Speaker 2: to show up and vote accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: And I share your viewpoint on that as well. Vivig
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  Speaker 1: Ramaswami again the website Viva four Ohio dot com. Help
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  Speaker 1: out in all ways and absolutely get out and vote.
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  Speaker 1: August thirty first, Jim and Jacks get your tickets the
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  Speaker 1: information on how to do that, is on my blog
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  Speaker 1: page as well. Fifty five KRC dot com Vivike Ramaswami,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure, as it always is to have
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  Speaker 1: you on the morning show and best of luck for
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  Speaker 1: success in November. Sir, thank you anytime,