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DR QUEEN MOTHER CHENZIRA 4-17-25 AST SPEAKS LIVE EVERY 1ST & 3RD THURSDAY · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 6: Plus Diana giving Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving thanks.
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  Speaker 7: A blessed new rise to everyone, Grand Rising Hotel Bayete.
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  Speaker 7: What all of those different greetings. We are really honored
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  Speaker 7: to be able to have this reasoning opportunity among African
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  Speaker 7: Queen Mother Warriors. I am the supermooth as Senate Doctor Chencerah.
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  Speaker 7: I will leave that there for now, and I would
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  Speaker 7: like to share our next level of opening with our
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  Speaker 7: beloved sisters of the African Queen Mother Warriors Rising.
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  Speaker 6: Movement who Yes Apan Queen Mother wars is start.
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  Speaker 2: Sancha peace for greetings and warm ancestral spiritual salutations. I
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  Speaker 2: am African Queen Mother Warrior, sist doctor, and I am
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  Speaker 2: honored to be in the presence of royalty again. I love,
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  Speaker 2: I love the warrior aspect of who we are. Peace for.
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  Speaker 6: I also request that grace, that fierce revolutionary peace and
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  Speaker 6: boys with artivism out of this world. From African Queen
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  Speaker 6: Mother Warrior.
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  Speaker 7: Bassu asked isis.
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  Speaker 8: Greetings, greetings borrow boye uja and many greetings Gua. As
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  Speaker 8: you said in all our many many languages and formats,
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  Speaker 8: it is an honor to be amongst the great ones,
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  Speaker 8: the queens that emphassis the goddesses. Look at the beauty
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  Speaker 8: here today, the intelligence, the fierceness of the warrior spirit,
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  Speaker 8: and I'm very very pleased that there's four of us
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  Speaker 8: here today. I feel like the puzzle is coming together,
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  Speaker 8: the energy is there.
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  Speaker 6: Blessings all great, grateful and also with a wordsmith, masterful
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  Speaker 6: engagement in exchange and being able to bring not just
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  Speaker 6: jurisprudence and the legal perspective to the forefront, but to
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  Speaker 6: bring all levels of airfire, earth, water, spirit can water not.
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  Speaker 7: As I say it like our intentionally because that destrual
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  Speaker 7: spiritual vibrations always shared and highlighted by our beloved African
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  Speaker 7: Quaen Mother Warriors.
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  Speaker 6: Sister Esthern Sign.
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  Speaker 2: Given thanks for being here. I was missing for a
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  Speaker 2: session or two, but I'm glad to be back. I
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  Speaker 2: was missing in action doing the work right I've been, I've.
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  Speaker 6: Found and I'm back, beautiful, grateful.
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  Speaker 7: And given. Thanks. So for the persons that may not
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  Speaker 7: be as familiar as to what is African Quam Mother Warriors,
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  Speaker 7: there is an orientation that is available if you look
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  Speaker 7: on any of our previous podcasts. We've been more formal,
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  Speaker 7: more formal, i should say, from December of last year
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  Speaker 7: and then we've been making the intentional work move forward
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  Speaker 7: to be able to gather have these reasoning at least
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  Speaker 7: once a month, and we usually do them on the
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  Speaker 7: Sunday is usually we do it on the third Sunday. However,
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  Speaker 7: this month, because there's so many things happening in the international, global, regional, national,
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  Speaker 7: as well as homegrown local spaces, it was imperative that
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  Speaker 7: we gathered in this forum, in this time, in this
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  Speaker 7: compensation to make sure that we keep things in my
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  Speaker 7: eye in truth, justice, order, reciprocity, balanced, divine righteousness and harmony.
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  Speaker 7: Hence the vibration of love offered to our opening video
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  Speaker 7: with the powerful songstress Desert and I always encourage persons
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  Speaker 7: and we give thanks. You know, she's one of our
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  Speaker 7: homegrown daughters, hair In II Saint Croix, and has impacted
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  Speaker 7: global communities, specifically through her ability to use her voice
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  Speaker 7: to tell the narrative, to tell this to the legacy,
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  Speaker 7: and part of what we're sharing this morning is also
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  Speaker 7: linked to. Since everyone's speaking of anniversaries, this is also
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  Speaker 7: an anniversary of the formal development, if you will, of
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  Speaker 7: not something that just happened ten years ago, but the
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  Speaker 7: legacy of work of each of us that extends beyond
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  Speaker 7: scores and notice I said scores plural. Many of us,
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  Speaker 7: we just look young, and we carry ourselves to the
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  Speaker 7: best of our ability to keep that youthfulness. However, many
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  Speaker 7: of us have been in the tride, in the trenches
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  Speaker 7: in this work for decades upon decades, and so what
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  Speaker 7: we're sharing is coming from a space of being researchers,
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  Speaker 7: of being artists, of being organizers, of being activists, of
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  Speaker 7: being midwives. And when I speak of midwiffery midwives of
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  Speaker 7: the physical birth piece, but also virtual midwives, political midwives,
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  Speaker 7: economic midwives, educational I can go on. So I would
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  Speaker 7: like for persons to just have that in there in
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  Speaker 7: the forefront as you're listening and hearing some of the reasoning.
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  Speaker 7: It was April eleventh, twenty fifteen, and there were a
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  Speaker 7: number of international reparation initiatives happening, not only in the
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  Speaker 7: forty eight contiguous US, but also in other parts of
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  Speaker 7: the globe. And there was a culmination during this global
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  Speaker 7: reparation movement that's really twenty first century focused to support
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  Speaker 7: and highlight the designation that was for that was in
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  Speaker 7: place for the United Nations First International Decade for People
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  Speaker 7: of African descent. Again, the themes around recognition, justice and development,
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  Speaker 7: And I'll just highlight the opening statement that came at
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  Speaker 7: the conclusion of that April ninth to eleventh International Reparation
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  Speaker 7: Summit that to this day has still remained unanswered, And
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  Speaker 7: it was as simple, what does that translate into for
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  Speaker 7: our people in regard to these summits, that particular summit
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  Speaker 7: and those that preceded it, And then I quote respectfully,
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  Speaker 7: all the voices and actions with sacred intentions for our liberation,
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  Speaker 7: unification and sovereign social governance are to be included. In
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  Speaker 7: simple terms, without equal male and female involvement in the
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  Speaker 7: reparation's movement, there can be no recognition justice and development.
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  Speaker 7: Want us to simmer on that for a second, because
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  Speaker 7: the entire statement one page was disseminated widely and with
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  Speaker 7: very few commentaries, inclusive of the video that is set
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  Speaker 7: for over nine years were now ten years on YouTube
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  Speaker 7: for persons to see and hear what was said immediately
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  Speaker 7: following that particular gathering. Based on how Cistern like us were,
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  Speaker 7: the warrior dismissed, I just would like to pause there
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  Speaker 7: and leave the floor open for the next layer of
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  Speaker 7: our reasoning.
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  Speaker 8: It.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks. I think that historical piece is really important,
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  Speaker 2: so that it is to be understood that we didn't
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  Speaker 2: just come to this the other day, that we are
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  Speaker 2: called to do this work, that we've been doing this
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  Speaker 2: work in our various ways, in different continents, under different skies,
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  Speaker 2: and so we're very invested in the well being of
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  Speaker 2: the African family. We are concerned when it would appear
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  Speaker 2: that a movement.
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  Speaker 7: That is.
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  Speaker 2: Considerable appears to be hijacked when attempts to publicly humiliate
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  Speaker 2: women and marginalize our voices, as if this has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with us takes place. At this point, I'd
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  Speaker 2: invite my beloved Sister African Queen, Mother Warrior Beast or
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  Speaker 2: asked I Sis to remind me, I maybe share with
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  Speaker 2: others how some of this happened.
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  Speaker 8: Giving thanks Giving Thanks Well. I think realistically, if I
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  Speaker 8: look around the screen at the Queen's the Goddess is
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  Speaker 8: present here. I probably came to a lot of this
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  Speaker 8: at a later age. In terms of these formal structures,
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  Speaker 8: I know, for example, we're going to hear from Sister Esther,
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  Speaker 8: who was very young, actually sitting in these big, big spaces,
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  Speaker 8: raising her voice as was sent doctor, and I think
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  Speaker 8: yourself as well, Sister Doctor, I was on the street activist,
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  Speaker 8: anti party, fighting police and carrying on and you know,
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  Speaker 8: all of that stuff. And I think when I first,
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  Speaker 8: for me, the first really introduction into this is when
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  Speaker 8: I met yourself and Senator Doctor in twenty fourteen at
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  Speaker 8: the carry Com Reparation Yeah, the first second carrit Com
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  Speaker 8: Reparations conference. And we all connected on so many levels,
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  Speaker 8: I think spiritually as Queen's, politically as activists, because what
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  Speaker 8: I saw going on there, I was like, who are
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  Speaker 8: these people?
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  Speaker 9: What are they on? These men?
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  Speaker 8: Why are they just so curtailing to the system.
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  Speaker 9: You know.
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  Speaker 8: I remember speaking with yourselves and others like why is
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  Speaker 8: there a white lawyer sitting down in here in our
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  Speaker 8: African reparations And then it was like, oh no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 8: we mustn't talk about that, because you know, there's a
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  Speaker 8: whole thing in Barbalos. And I know Sister Esther was
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  Speaker 8: there for that. So I was really taken aback by.
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  Speaker 8: I thought I was going into a far more revolutionary
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  Speaker 8: space and I came to realize, oh no, it ain't
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  Speaker 8: that revolutionary at all. And my connection with the two
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  Speaker 8: of you, Senator Doctor Chim's Erra African Greeen mothers Sister
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  Speaker 8: Doctor Sandra was very much like we were all like,
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  Speaker 8: what's going on here? Many of the men were coming
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  Speaker 8: with there, which I'm going to call and we'll I'm
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  Speaker 8: going to call as we go through this same men syndrome,
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  Speaker 8: this ideology, the ego, the patriarchy, and actually misogyny, I
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  Speaker 8: would say, and with disrespect of our knowledge and our
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  Speaker 8: equity and our rights to speak. The one man who
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  Speaker 8: I noticed didn't do that, your King, Senator doctor stood
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  Speaker 8: like a pharaoh protecting his queen. And that's one thing
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  Speaker 8: that stood out in the mind my mind, the way
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  Speaker 8: he stood there behind you with the power of energy
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  Speaker 8: and other Unfortunately, there were some good people there, not saying,
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  Speaker 8: of course, we know we love our men. We're not
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  Speaker 8: saying all of them, but what I saw there was
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  Speaker 8: very disappointing. And then, of course roll forward now twenty
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  Speaker 8: fifteen to April. I come to the National African American
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  Speaker 8: Reparations launch and I met yourselves, and we met our
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  Speaker 8: ever African Queen, Mother Warriors, Sister Temple, Sister Aziza, and
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  Speaker 8: the five of us were like, or is going on
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  Speaker 8: in this space? And I know we're going to talk
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  Speaker 8: more about it on every level spiritually, intellectually. I mean
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  Speaker 8: even the food situation. My uncle had to come and
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  Speaker 8: bring me food. Luckily he lived in Queens and it
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  Speaker 8: was down and royal. He came with some fresh juice
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  Speaker 8: and some.
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  Speaker 9: That I was like, what are they serving us?
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  Speaker 8: On so many levels, the thing was just not what
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  Speaker 8: should have happened, and that is what triggered us to
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  Speaker 8: gather and become the African Queen Mother Warriors we are today.
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  Speaker 8: I have also had a story in a relationship with
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  Speaker 8: Sister Esther, but we'll come to that later. As we
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  Speaker 8: moved through where we've all connected on an energy that
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  Speaker 8: says something needs to change. We have so many issues
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  Speaker 8: to deal with and these people, these same men, are
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  Speaker 8: not the solution. So I'll leave it there for now.
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  Speaker 10: Esther HM, Yes, And I came to connect with you
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  Speaker 10: all formerly as African Queen Mother Warriors much later. However,
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  Speaker 10: I was very aware of your presence and the video
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  Speaker 10: and the statement that you put out at that summit
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  Speaker 10: that is being commemorated today that took ten years ago.
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  Speaker 9: That took place ten years ago, and.
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  Speaker 2: I was very infused and really really happy to see
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  Speaker 2: that there were women voicing African Queen Mother warriors, voicing
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  Speaker 2: what I had been thinking and feeling, and also some
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  Speaker 2: of the thoughts and sentiments I had been expressing in spaces,
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  Speaker 2: and at that time was considered I don't know, a
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  Speaker 2: public enemy, just some of.
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  Speaker 9: The people who led.
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  Speaker 10: That summit in terms of organizing it and putting together programs,
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  Speaker 10: because I am a co founding member and co vice
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  Speaker 10: chair of PACO, the Pan African Reparations Coalition in Europe,
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  Speaker 10: and by this time we had been one of the
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  Speaker 10: few coalitions organized voices that had a critical perspective on
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  Speaker 10: the emergence of what has become the Carry Come ten
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  Speaker 10: point Plan, which first began obviously as the Carry con
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  Speaker 10: Reparations Initiative, and in particular who had been very concerned
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  Speaker 10: and actually up in arms around the calling on Lee
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  Speaker 10: Day the law firm, the White lead law firm here
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  Speaker 10: in the UK, to somehow hope up a Caribbean reparations case.
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  Speaker 10: And we were up in arms because of the role
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  Speaker 10: of Lee Day in what's called popularly the Malmau case,
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  Speaker 10: but we say the Kenyan Land and Freedom Army, some
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  Speaker 10: of the survivors of colonial torture who were trying to
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  Speaker 10: sue the British government, and that did result in a
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  Speaker 10: settlement that was litigated and negotiated by Lee Day. But
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  Speaker 10: we were very concerned about the fact that our people
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  Speaker 10: literally got peanuts. A small class of our people, of
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  Speaker 10: category I should say, of our people, just over two
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  Speaker 10: thousand people did get a settlement, but it was literally,
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  Speaker 10: I mean, it was really atrocious, and we felt it
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  Speaker 10: would it was not a good idea for carry Com
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  Speaker 10: to think that that would be the law firm to utilize.
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  Speaker 10: And because the terms of that settlement actually and many
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  Speaker 10: people didn't follow up on this, and it's really important
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  Speaker 10: that the terms of that settlement prevented future legal action
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  Speaker 10: for a more substantial class of survivors. I mean, we're
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  Speaker 10: talking about elders, mothers, fathers of the liberation struggle, the
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  Speaker 10: anti colonial liberation struggle in Kenya who were tortured, you know,
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  Speaker 10: women who had things objects put up their private parts,
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  Speaker 10: and men who had been castrated and all manner of
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  Speaker 10: really really you know, disgusting atrocities. And the settlement resulted
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  Speaker 10: in a compensation payment of just over two thousand pounds
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  Speaker 10: for elders who had survived you know, over fifty and
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  Speaker 10: it was just ludicrous. So anyway, that is how I
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  Speaker 10: I was, you know, very much part of a small
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  Speaker 10: group and vocal group of people that were resisting this
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  Speaker 10: and were sort of saying, hang on a minute, this
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  Speaker 10: cannot be right, this cannot be reparatory. And I would
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  Speaker 10: have to say that it was our actions actually led
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  Speaker 10: to I wouldn't say there being a total rethink, but
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  Speaker 10: they certainly had to change strategy and approach because of
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  Speaker 10: the resistance that they were meeting Europe and in particular
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  Speaker 10: in the UK. So that was the wider context within
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  Speaker 10: which I discovered and heard about you as African Queen
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  Speaker 10: Mother Warriors, and I was just so proud and happy
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  Speaker 10: to know that there were other people actually raising these
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  Speaker 10: voices and challenging the process. Because we talk a lot
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  Speaker 10: about reparations, and we think about the end goal of
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  Speaker 10: whatever people think or envision reparations to be, but we
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  Speaker 10: miss out that the most important part of even achieving
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  Speaker 10: whatever end goal you believe reparations to be is the
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  Speaker 10: how we get there, the process, and what you all
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  Speaker 10: did as African Queen Mother Warriors was really I think
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  Speaker 10: raised to an international stage. Again not the constructive, uh
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  Speaker 10: you know, criticisms as it were, constructive on what we
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  Speaker 10: should be doing.
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  Speaker 9: If we were really.
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  Speaker 10: Being centered as African people and we were really honoring
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  Speaker 10: our ancestresses and our ancestors, what our processes would look like,
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  Speaker 10: what our summits would look like, that you know, how
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  Speaker 10: we would have to honor our ancestors and ancestresses which
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  Speaker 10: didn't happen, and everything else that you you really brought tonight.
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  Speaker 9: So yes, that is how we connected.
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  Speaker 2: And of course I had known some of you before,
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  Speaker 2: but we hadn't really formally connected in an organized way.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Good, thanks. Can I offer some further thoughts here? I
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  Speaker 2: am stimulated why not appear self? But I am very
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  Speaker 2: stimulated by the word sound and the energy that we
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  Speaker 2: bring to this important discussion for a number of reasons.
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  Speaker 2: One is I love the I love the analogy of
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  Speaker 2: birthing and rebirthing on different levels in different ways. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's really fundamentally what we're about, believing that that
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  Speaker 2: which has gone before doesn't have to be the way
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  Speaker 2: that we continue, especially as we are sitting within the
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  Speaker 2: context of a narrative that says we have another decade
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  Speaker 2: for African people of African descent, and that announcement coming
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  Speaker 2: from a body of people that are not us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like we are being given permission to do this for
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  Speaker 2: a longer period of time, and the likelihood there for
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  Speaker 2: that there will be funds attached to this, and there
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  Speaker 2: will be visibility attached to this, and legitimacy attached to this.
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  Speaker 7: I think.
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  Speaker 2: The reference to the process is really key because we've
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  Speaker 2: been given a reminder of how we came to be together,
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  Speaker 2: each one of us having trud as a result of
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  Speaker 2: spiritual calling. Because really, no one would choose this as
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  Speaker 2: a career. There is no money in it. What there
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  Speaker 2: is is an honoring and a continuing based on the
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  Speaker 2: legacy we've been left by our ancestors. So we are
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  Speaker 2: talking about honor. However, in my observation, and I am
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  Speaker 2: very observant in these spaces, I don't necessarily speak every
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  Speaker 2: time I'm in these spaces, so people don't necessarily know
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  Speaker 2: I'm there because I don't need to be at the
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  Speaker 2: podium or on the stage. But I am an African
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  Speaker 2: woman moving among people who are talking about what's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen to the African family, and so it's my business.
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  Speaker 2: It's my business because it is divinely ordained that it
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  Speaker 2: should be my business. It's nothing to do with my qualifications.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have to go to any Eurocentric school or
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  Speaker 2: college or university, or be in any particular clique to
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  Speaker 2: have been given this task.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 2: I those who are watching this to become active themselves,
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  Speaker 2: and not just to become viewers or listeners or audience
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  Speaker 2: members of the words we are bringing. I would encourage
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  Speaker 2: people to look at the same men, these same men
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  Speaker 2: who may be rooted in politics, or maybe rooted in economics,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe historians, or maybe whatever it is they are,
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  Speaker 2: but they clearly are not African centered. Because if they
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: were African centered, they wouldn't be attempting to hijack a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: movement that started long before they got involved. They wouldn't
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: be attempting to discredit and target African women who are
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: simply saying, we applaud your work, but there's some things
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: that are missing. Can we enter into some kind of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: discourse around this, only to be told that our voices
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: are not welcome. In fact, the public attempt to humiliate
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: us by turning off the microphone in a conference that
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: is about reparations was something of a shock to all
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: of us. I think that was the fire that forged
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: us together that this could be allowed to happen, and
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: nobody object. There were murmurings, but that there is a
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: comfort that these same men enjoy when they're at the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: top table and they can order someone to turn off
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the micro or they can be in another country and
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: sit they flank white men that they have brought into
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: a space to determine what will happen to the African family.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: When there are lawyers, very able lawyers within this region,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: but you bring in white people, and these white people
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: are brought in under the cover of these same men.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: If you who are.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Watching it, can I just add one thing.
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  Speaker 9: They're not just brought in.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: They are funded, they are paid, Their passage is paid,
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: their accommodation is paid.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I'll just throw that in thanks.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: If you pay attention to the ones who are bringing
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: them in, you will probably discover the same thing that
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I have discovered, which are that these.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Men are not honorable men. They are not honorable. Now
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: one could say I am casting all kinds of aspersions,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: but some of these men, Now I encourage you who
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: are watching to do your own research. Some of these
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: men are building empires with their names at the top
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: of it. Some of these men have conflicts of interest.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: They sit within political spaces, and they also claim to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: lead civil society. Some of these men are accused of
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: assaulting women some of them. This is research that can
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: be done. It's not hard. You just have to You
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: just have to do a you don't even have to
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: do a Google search. It's just do a YouTube search.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Some of these men are known for harming women, so
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: that which they did to us is nothing new. They
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: are traveling at the expense, not of themselves. They are
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: getting funding. They are championing, championing a cause which is
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: becoming questionable because of who they are and who they
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: are not including. They are orchestrating conferences and seminars. They
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: have established back rooms where decisions are being made. They
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: are facilitating photo opportunities so that the optics look good.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And they are threatening those of us who are saying
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: stop before this gets to are, let us still speak
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: to each other and honor our ancestors.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: They are not.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Interested in the slightest and in fact, word is reaching
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: our ears that we are now being told to be careful.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Be careful, because clearly these men bring forth children. These
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: men are greater than the most High. These men cannot
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: for our ancestors. These men have been overtaken by their
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: own ego. These men think that if they threaten us
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: or send word that we should be careful, that we
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: will stop. And what I would like to say to
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: these men is that the Most High will decide when
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: we take our last breath, that's what will happen. And
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: so at this point, we have data that we are sharing,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: so even if you take one of us out, it
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: will not stop what you have caused.
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  Speaker 7: I was going to offer that as we reference these
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: same men that we're also and I'm sharing this in
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: my eye, including select women able these same men and
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: hold them up even when there is a need for intervention,
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: reasoning change of behavior beyond apology. That in word, that
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: there should be a transformative shift in how these men
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: engage with we women move with the African queen mother
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: warrior vibration shift, et cetera. Because we're following that ancestral piece.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: And the reason I desired to bring that in because
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: the quality is not one hundred percent. I'm going to
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: see if I can get that small clip and I
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: encourage persons that are listening, that are viewing, to look
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: at the link to what was actually videotaped. I think
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: I just turned around one of my cameras. We sat
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: in a half circle right in the grounds where we were.
• 36:35
  Speaker 11: Just ejected, that one ejected from being able to regarded,
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: that one dismissed, and ultimately it was a form of disrespect.
• 36:52
  Speaker 11: Had we been if we were really street right, that
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: could have looked very different because some per sense and
• 37:00
  Speaker 11: again because persons recognize and know that we operate through
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: a space of regality, of royalty, of diplomacy in a
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: very African ancestral context. Because we did not want to
• 37:14
  Speaker 11: bring any disrespect in the form that we were disrespected,
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: we elected to just sit, gather our thoughts and speak
• 37:24
  Speaker 11: from a space of not anger, not even emotion. I
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: mean we were sitting there with calabash foreign libations from
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: one to the other. To make sure that we kept
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: ourselves fluid. I think we talked so soft to make
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: sure we didn't just scream out on saving much. We
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: didn't do that, all right, carry on right, right.
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: And what was interesting was while this was going on,
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: because as has been alluded to earlier, the whole idea
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: was what we have to stop because the buses are
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: coming and we have another revent and so forth someone.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: So when the bus got stuck in traffic and people
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: who still had to wait over an hour, there was
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: that ample time for us who were asked, do you
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: have we have a Q and a segment? Are there
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: any questions from the audience, And not just us, but
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: several other sisters and brothers came to the mic, But
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: when they saw us, then it became an issue. And
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: I'm not whatever the optics were, I can't speak for
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: what they saw. I know that we came in a
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: space of not anger, animosity or thread to them and
• 38:41
  Speaker 7: tagging it of any sort. We were consciously I remember
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: many of us had our little notes like in our
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: hand to make sure we stayed. So it was a question,
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: not a statement delivery on the panel that you weren't
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: on question and we were denied that. And this is
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: not the first time, and obviously it wasn't the last time.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: And that's why when persons hear the reference of these
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: same men and you can go and look and see
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: who they are for the purpose, because it's not like it.
• 39:17
  Speaker 9: Won't be easy to see, right, It's difficult.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: Right, So we're just highlighting that African Queen Mother Warriors
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: have decreed. We're not doing a declaration. We're not getting
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: into no tit for tat back and forth. We're just
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: making it clear. Think of it like a Papa bull.
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: Once the Vatican gives it, Once the Pope gives a
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: decree from the Vatican, that's how it goes for like
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: centuries until it's revoked. So what we're saying, what we're
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: enabling our brothers and sisters of light and those that
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: choose to support truth, just disorder, recipro balance, divine righteousness
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: and harmony. As my eye, those that speak on buntu
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: and then tear apart the very foundation and core of
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: those of us that are coming in the interests of
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: in Boonto. We say, I am, because you are. But
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: if you're trying to dismantle me, to discredit me, to
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: mash up my ability to make a living, to mash
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: up my ability to be able to give voice in
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: a space that you just came to it the other day.
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: And I gonna say that some persons just came to
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: this like the other day, and they are the ones
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: that have been enabled and permitted to offer forms of
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: disrespect and disregard and dismissiveness to many of our sisters
• 40:51
  Speaker 7: in particular, and some of our brothers as well, and
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: usually they attack the brothers that support the sisters. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: just needed to offer that small interjection so that when
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: we are moving forward in our reasoning today, that we
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: are clear that this is a decree we're just giving
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: most of us, all of us are researchers, you know.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: We come from different backgrounds, you know, so we can
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: do the academic research and speak of the analysis of
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: the crisis and so forth, and the philosophical ideological realms.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: We can do that, but we're speaking from a space
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: of heart, and we're doing our best to not screen
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: it out so that it's taken in my eye. But
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: it's not a warning. It's definitely not a threat. This
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: is how we're gonna go from no from before no,
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: because our ancestors have decreed.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: That we must look at the character of those who
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: are the same man. We must look at that, We
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: must look at the model which is being applied to
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the affairs of the African family that is being exploited, traumatized,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: and continues to be traumatized by agents of a Eurocentric system.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: If you have melanine skin, whatever degree to which you
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: consider yourself to be honorable, you would look at these things.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: These things are to do with a people who have
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: been stolen, exploited, and women are considered during times of
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: war to be collateral damage. We are sites of comfort.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: People do with us what they want, and when we
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: articulate that something is not right, we are then discredited.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: We are then considered to be hysterical or an angry
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: black woman, unless we find we are favored by these
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: same men and some of that. And I'm not in
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: a position to know exactly who, because there may be
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: some people who are doing their best within the context
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: of that space. But there is a thing that happens
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: with abuse.
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: With.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Misogynistic approaches, with people who enjoy misogyn work, where they
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: will cut off your money. I'm not wondering about this,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: speaking as someone who knows this to be. They will
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: cut off your source of air unless you become horizontal.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: And sometimes you don't even get the benefit of being horizontal.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: In a five star place, you are encouraged to be diet.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: What is it when you're not quite lying down but
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: you're still being fucked over? Oh?
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: Lord, that one. That's why I'm so grateful that you
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: put that cause again. I love what we're able to
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: have this versation. And then look at this international press statement.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: I would like to come so the person's known this
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: is and anyone that desires again Africanqueen Mother Warrior is
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: a Gmail dot Com or place it inside of the
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: Facebook chat, the YouTube chat. There's ways to reach us.
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: We're not we are very transparent doing its own thing, Okay.
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: I mean one of the things I wanted to touch
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: on and to make a point is that we as Africans,
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: you know, we need to learn from our history. From
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: the past, we seek solutions. We're looking at reparations for poetry, justice,
• 45:24
  Speaker 8: we're looking at we're looking at restoring ourselves enough. We
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: look at the tenets of reparations. We're looking at reclaiming
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: that which was lost and putting it back in place.
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: And one of the things we need to do is
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: we need to learn from our history, and our history
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: have always shown us that when we do not adhere
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: to those principles, those fundamental principles you spoke of my
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: hut or wantu and all the myriad of other principles
• 45:48
  Speaker 8: that underpin our ontology and our philosophy as Africans, when
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: we do not look at our history and learn the
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: lessons from our history, which is that we must place
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: our spirituality as part of our identity, we always falter.
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: And this is one of the things that is happening
• 46:05
  Speaker 8: currently with these same men and the women who buy
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: into the misogyny and the misogyn are the patriarchy, those
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: who have sold their souls and betrayed themselves to sit
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: at the table and eat the crumbs because the table,
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: the crumbs appeared to them to be huge feasts. But
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: in reality we know because it lacks spirituality. That's what
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: it is. You know, our lessons have shown us. You know,
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: if we look at that eighty and the resident the revolution,
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: it was when the spiritual people, Bookman Dotty and various
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: people came in and brought that spirituality that we were
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: able to overcome. And it makes me think of Ifa.
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: There's a saying in Epha that says that the women
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: had the power, and the men tricked the women and
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: took it. Now we at a time, as you said,
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: are you articulated, Senator doctor, when things are not going
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: to keep going like that, we are coming back. We
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: know I had a wonderful guest. Big shout out to
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: our Queen Suzann poetess for her phenomenal energy on my
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: show and for her poetry and her creativity. And she
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: is someone that downloads and connects with spirit, and she
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: spoke of seeing the Creator, and the Creator is a
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: melanated Let's get this right, a melanated African woman. Now
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: we know this, Michael Chondrial Eve. The mellanated African woman
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: is pure energy. She's the creator of everything. And as
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: African women, we are supposed to be the rulers, the leaders.
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: The world was created by us for us to rule
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: and lead, and circumstances have led to, as you say,
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: the vertical, is it the vertical?
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 47:52
  Speaker 8: I get confused that the things that were supposed to
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: be this way this way and then tipping upside down.
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: So now the white man, for example, followed by his
• 48:04
  Speaker 8: lackeys who adhere to his principles, whether they're the same
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: men from our community, the women who buy into the misogynre,
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: misogynire and the misogyny, and the patriarchy from our community
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: who sold themselves, they are also now sitting with the
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: white man at this table at the top and we
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: the African women now being played. But we see as
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: time the energy is turning, nothing lasts forever. Everything will
• 48:30
  Speaker 8: return as it was in the beginning, sociality in the end.
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: And so we African Queen mother Warriors are saying to
• 48:37
  Speaker 8: you that we know what is to be. We have
• 48:42
  Speaker 8: the capacity, we have the solutions. I mean, the women
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: on this call are phenomenal on every level and intellectually,
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: like you say, we could sit down and write everything
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: they write better. Even with my dyslexicself, I could still write.
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: In fact, I never forget in twenty fifteen when they
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: put out this statement and we were like what. I
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: went up to the table with the same men and
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: I said, listen, this is this is not approach. You
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: know this is missing. This is missing. They looked at
• 49:08
  Speaker 8: me and they said, and I said, you know what,
• 49:09
  Speaker 8: give it to me.
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: I will rewrite it for you.
• 49:12
  Speaker 8: I got this response, and I won't say which men,
• 49:15
  Speaker 8: but you could imagine they looked at me like I'd
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: offered to shoot them in the head. Like I stood
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: up there and said why. All I said was, look,
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: I will rewrite this for you. I offered my services
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: for free. Nobody played my passage and my hotel bill
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: I was saying by my uncle sleeping on the sofa.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: You know. I.
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: So we have the solutions, and.
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: We have the capacity, and what we're reaching out to
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: you to say this has to change. The voices that
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: I hear alongside other voices of African queen mother warriors
• 49:45
  Speaker 8: and African king father warriors. The men who stand with
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: us and in a stand overstand our role in creation.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: We have the solutions, We're working with them. Some of
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: us them are involved with the work we do.
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: I want to read this section because what we've done
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: is we have offered a twenty twenty five version of
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: what we were saying in twenty fifteen. So the continuum
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: is great and a quote. Eurocentric paradigms which ignore established
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: African centered traditions and life practices are not conducive to
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: our demand for reparatory justice. As the African Union hosts
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: the annual International Summit on the theme of twenty fifteen
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: Year of Women's Empowerment and Development towards Africa's Agenda twenty
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: sixty three, and the world commemorates, memorializes, and celebrates African
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: Liberation Day, African women must be respected in unity with
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: our brothers and sisters of humanity, African queen mothers and
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: revolutionary women warriors have united in order to have our
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: voices heard by publishing this international statement. The issues raised
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: here in are being shared in the spirit of love, peace, harmony, reciprocity, truth,
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: just disorder and balance. And I share that segment because
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: what we've just said has reiterated what we had to
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: say sitting after being dismissed from an event that was
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: happening on the year. Notice what the theme was in
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: twenty fifteen year of women's empowerment and development.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: Oh the irony and so too.
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: And again we're seeing that some things and I like
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: to bring it to where we are now as we're
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: having this convening. There have been a host of initiatives
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: recognizing the anniversary of the Pan African Conference in London
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: over one hundred I believe twenty five years ago, right
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: and our beloved African Queen mother Warrior, Sister Esther was
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: able to be Again, I'm so grateful that we had
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: the representation and someone engaged in that piece. We've seen
• 52:26
  Speaker 7: that there's been a declaration that has come from that.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: We're praying that that is something that did not had
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: not been subjected to the same experience that we had,
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: that declarations come forward without the full respectful betting from
• 52:42
  Speaker 7: those present as well as those that were not present,
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: usually for economic or the scheduling reasons. I think it's
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: really important to know that while we're having this convening
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: and this reasoning, that many of our thousands of our
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: sisters and brothers are converging into the United Nations headquarters
• 53:01
  Speaker 7: in New York, maybe not the best time in light
• 53:05
  Speaker 7: of what's happening in the forty eight contiguous United Snakes
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: of America. And I say it like that intentionally because
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: right now it's very serpentine, not serpentine Kundalini positive, but serpentine,
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: very reptilian, very challenging, and we're praying for the safety
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: of everyone that's going in and out of New York,
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: in and out of US immigration, in and out this
• 53:33
  Speaker 7: ice experience, with this administration that is quite hostile to
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: anything ancestral, ancient African, black, non Eurasian, non European, let
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: me be very clear, right, and.
• 53:50
  Speaker 8: Very destructive, very destructive and dismantling at the moment.
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: Of course, I mean anarchy and fascism. At the same time,
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: it just looks least we know what it looks like
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: in twenty first century version. I think that that's the
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: part that is very important for persons to know. So
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: while the permanent form for people of African descent is
• 54:09
  Speaker 7: being is having its fourth session hosted in this space,
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: that may not be the safest space, but we're praying
• 54:16
  Speaker 7: for there to be some positivity that comes from that.
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: We're also looking at some of the same energy that
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: we experienced that are going to be the same energy.
• 54:29
  Speaker 7: So granted there's a certain continuity in that regard. However,
• 54:34
  Speaker 7: our decree, our voices are commanding that there be another
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: shift because any type of gathering that's happening now has
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: to be inclusive of the African women, and not just
• 54:51
  Speaker 7: any African women, but those voices with actionable deliverables of
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: African women that will make the full contribution appropriate. That's
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: what I'm trying to get to. It should not be
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: that we shouldn't have to beg to do the work,
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: beg to get the money for the work, beg to
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: be at the table to do the work, beg to
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: have a crumb come this way for the work, and
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: then it shouldn't be that it should be a very inclusive,
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: engaging experience that supports life, that supports ancestral resonance, because
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: other than that, as we've had this conversation before, then
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: we're committing ancestral treason and we're creating a very unpleasant
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: outcome for what we're saying is supposed to be done.
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, even again, looking at this statement, I keep
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: coming to this because I like for persons to know
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: the continuity and those persons that don't know what we're
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: talking about. Again, if those that have just joined us,
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: you're listening to African Queen Mother Warriors Rising, we are
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: having a reasoning on global African Caribbean affairs. We're looking
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: at reparations, we're looking at recognition, justice and development, and
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: we're speaking specifically to things that have transpired. While everyone's
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: honoring anniversaries, this is an anniversary of a very engaging
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: experience that many of us have survived and still thrived through.
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  Speaker 7: But the decree African women must lead and with that
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  Speaker 7: being said, I quote through African consensus, this statement calls
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: for revolutionary corrective actions for the end of willful disrespect marginalization, exclusionism,
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: intellectual warfare, internalized sexist terrorism, misogyny, pathological patriarchy, and genocidal
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: violence against our African women anywhere and everywhere, particularly within
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: the organizational and institutional frameworks of these organizations, including summits, congresses, conventions,
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: and similar gatherings. I just needed to make sure that
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: and again there's only like a small portion left, but
• 57:28
  Speaker 7: just so persons are clear that this was not a
• 57:30
  Speaker 7: new versation. We took our time to make sure that
• 57:34
  Speaker 7: the matter in which this decree, this statement was shared
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: was so that there would be some and there was
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: very little response. The response was be careful. The response
• 57:48
  Speaker 7: was exclusionism. The response was to the same way we
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: dismissed from a microphone. There was this dismissive, Well, you're
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: not gonna get invited to the next one. We don't
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: need you to come known. Right. So again, in any gathering,
• 58:05
  Speaker 7: it's imperative that we not only call upon the names
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: of our benevolent ancestors, but that we ceremoniously invite their
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: presence in the most appropriate and res respectable manner. That
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: the failure to safeguarden, to provide optimal protection and security
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: is a serious issue. The publishing of delegates names in
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: public floyers is a risk on several levels. Unhealthy foods
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: have no place in these gatherings. In keeping with our
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: African cosmology and sacred number traditions that value that value
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: the extensive spiritual significance of numbers. There was we question
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: the adoption of a quote ten point plan that is
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: not only modeling a Eurocentric value system, but devoid of
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: a spiritual component and feminine aspect. Again, remember this is
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  Speaker 7: April twenty fifteen and was disseminated on African Liberation Day,
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: May twenty fifth, twenty fifteen. So I dislike for person,
• 59:11
  Speaker 7: don't think this is make sure you keep it in context.
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  Speaker 7: Right and we closed, We African queen Mothers and revolutionarywomen
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  Speaker 7: warriors decree to our nation and all of humanity that
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  Speaker 7: the wanton acts of disrespect, disregard and threatening theatrics imposed
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: upon africanwomen by men and patriarchy controlled women will no
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: longer be tolerated. Dot dot dot period end quote. Just
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: so the persons have context. So if you're not clear
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: on what was said where there's some missing comprehension element,
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: please just send us an email. African Queen Mother Warriors
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: at gmail dot com. African is Afria, Come right, Queen
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: Mother Warrior is a Gmail dot comra look for us
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 7: at any of the social media so that you can
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 7: have Because the document has been available.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: For a decade, we can make it.
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  Speaker 2: Available on every social media platform. I mean, I'm being
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I am being invited not to be as enthusiastic about
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: sharing the data and the evidence that we hold. I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: am being very disciplined. I'm inviting African Queen Mother Warrior
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: esther who would have been in receipt.
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  Speaker 3: Of that.
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  Speaker 2: Proclamation, that invitation, that statement that that which is not
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: our warning. That is interesting. You said it is not
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: a warning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't it?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Okay? So, having having heard the history and having become
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: familiar with the process, which is what you're interested in,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: and you know this on the heels of my call
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: for everyone and anyone to do your research. This is
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: not angry black women. You know, we are that trope
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: that we are given whenever we say something's not right here,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: can we have a look at this? The attack then
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: happens onto the woman instead of saying, well, let's have
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: a look at what it is you're talking about and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: see whether or not. We are out of balance. You know,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: what is this thing called art?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: What are these principles that you speak of? Is there
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: any place that we can learn? Might these women be
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: bringing something that is important, especially given that we can't
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: have an African family without the African woman. We're just
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: not interested in the act of pleasure seeking and empire building.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: We are interested in the welfare of the African family
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: and honoring our ancestors. What say you, African queen, brother
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: warrior esther? Because I cannot promise that this because you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: you see when African queen mother worry about sister isis
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: did that kind of thing like that?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that. I don't have
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: a problem with that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have my children, I don't have my grandchildren.
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  Speaker 9: Really recognize real you're.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Threatening people and you're careless in yours because it's documented
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: that the women who have been horizontal and have been betrayed.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 12: Us speaking, there are cases in the courts, are going
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 12: through the media where ones in high position who are
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 12: practicing misogyny and misogynoir have found themselves in social media.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: Don't let that happen to you. Ha ha, Yes, Queen,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that was yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, actually, just.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Reflecting back on this ten year journey, some other things
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: came up for me, so obviously, I mean, I'm thinking
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: back to what was the general atmosphere, especially for those
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: of us who were part of the movement in Europe.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: And one of the things that was also happening around
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: the same time it was about who was invited at
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: that summit, you know, who was on the program.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: And looking back over the program, we can.
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  Speaker 10: See there was the sort of the recent formulation of NARC,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 10: the National African American Reparations Commission, linking with those in
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: the Caribbean Reparations Commission, and there was kind of on
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: the fringes of that, some people who were organizing to
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 10: establish something called the European Reparations Commission. However, the people
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: that were organizing or trying to establish the European Reparations
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: Commission were totally outside of you know, Pan African movement
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: and you know, long standing reparations and constituencies, and so
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 10: there was that tension that was also going on around
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: who was invited and which voices were being amplified to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 10: promote a kind of uh sort of united front around
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 10: a particular idea that for me, was about silencing sections
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 10: of the movement for African Reparations that people felt was problematic,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 10: that was, you know, kind of classified as being almost renegade,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: and that people who were not just willing to defer
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: to the hegemon because we have now you've spoken about
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 10: African Queen, Mother Warrior's Sister Doctor, about.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 9: The empire building, but this is the hegemon.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 10: There are hegemons that are forming within these reparations structures,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 10: these emerging structures. Many of them are very hegemonic and
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 10: cliqueish because they only promote certain people who get with
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 10: that program, and if you are outside of that, then
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: woe betide you. And in particular, I think it was
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 10: great to mention it was Senate African Queen, Mother Warrior,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: Senate Doctor.
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  Speaker 9: The women, the women of the hegemon as well.
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  Speaker 10: We focus a lot on the men, but we also
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: have to think about those women or women folk, so
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 10: called sisters who.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: Are supporting this.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 10: Why because they can be privileged and well positioned to
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: benefit from the hegemonic systems that are developing, and so
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: part of their function is to also suppress other women
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 10: who do not fit in and do not submit to
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: that hegemon.
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  Speaker 9: So that's what was happening. And I say it because
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  Speaker 9: I'm a member.
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  Speaker 10: Of PACO, the Pan African Reparations Coalition in Europe, and
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: there was voices from the movement in Europe and in
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 10: particular the UK, but those voices were much more and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 10: what's the word cooperative with the hegemon.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: And I have to say, you know, even though I
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: was a.
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  Speaker 10: Co founder of the Global African Congress, that was one
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 10: of the organizations. So people like me, who from the
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 10: time I joined this movement have always been very visible,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 10: have always done spokesperson work because I am an advocate.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: It's part of what I do.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 10: Then we're being challenged for critiquing Harry Comb and the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 10: approach that we were seeing because we were also hearing
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: the voices of those of you located outside of Europe,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: particularly in the Caribbean and in parts of Africa Mamma
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 10: Africa and the wider Americas or Abiayala.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: We were hearing your voices.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 10: As PARCO, we see as our responsibility to amplify the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 10: voices of the various you know, African heritage communities of reparity,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 10: justice interest. So we were doing that, and we were
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 10: very much in touch with women, in particular Caribbean countries
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 10: who were having to deal with men in leadership of
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 10: this movement who were being challenged because of issues of
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 10: sexual and gender violence against women. Yeah, and this was
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 10: being you know, suppressed by many men, many men who
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 10: are elders and distinguish men in our communities who saw
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 10: that as undermining this kind of force unity that they
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 10: felt was was you know, popping up now and the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 10: voices of particularly women who were questioning that and who
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: were challenging that in the art but in recognition that
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 10: how can we truly have reparatory justice if we are
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: suppressing the voices of health of humanity and in particularly
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 10: in particular our mothers, our sisters, our women, folks who
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 10: have been carrying this movement, carrying this movement and who
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 10: have been leading, but who were not being recognized. So
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 10: that was also happening at the same time. So there
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 10: was a really wonderful convergence even though these kind of
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 10: two poles of really you know, trying to ensure that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 10: what we were doing was honoring the ethics of African
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 10: reparatory justice, the principles and values based on our highest
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 10: you know, ideals of ut and wuntu that we were
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 10: trying to enforce that in love and with respect, these
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: two polls of activity that were happening divinely simultaneously but
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 10: not connected. And so this anniversary has given me an opportunity,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: being a student of our people's story, to really look
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 10: back on who were the forces, what were the arguments,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 10: what were the challenges that we were making that now,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 10: as we say, our story is best qualified to reward
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 10: our research, because now these voices are becoming louder and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 10: louder and louder, and the fact that we have African
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 10: Queen mother Warriors rising as an evolution of what you
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 10: started back then is an indication of that, and so
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 10: many other women who are joining us, so many of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 10: our brothers who support us, because it's also true that
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 10: those brothers who have always been alignment and recognized our
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 10: role and we've worked harmoniously and cooperatively together, have also
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 10: been sidelined and maligned and attacked and accused of all
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 10: kinds of things because they have, you know, kealed whatever
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 10: remnants of malevolent patriarchy that they have internalized as a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 10: result of that global system of domination of white.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: Supremacy, racism.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 10: So I think it's important for us and this is
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 10: what we have committed to doing, for putting our narrative
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 10: officially on the record, which we have continued to do.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: And this is so key because there's so much there's
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: a proliferation of research and scholarship and documentaries and all
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 10: kinds of you know, creative outputs that are telling partial narratives,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 10: partial stories about the journey of recreations. And we have
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 10: to ensure that we must tell our own story because
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: we know that the tales of our liberation are being
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 10: colonized and they are being distorted in a way to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: create and shore up hegemonic men and the sisters that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 10: stand by them, because they are more interested in power
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 10: for themselves rather than the true emancipation and liberation and
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 10: restoration of the African family, where we can elevate the
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 10: best of our African civilization that has sustained us and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 10: that we need to elevate in order to take back
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 10: our world and restore ourselves to being in the rightful place,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 10: custodians of this rich legacy that has been bequeathed to us.
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  Speaker 8: For old
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  Speaker 12: HM