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Just fearless conversations to help you thrive. Let's dive in with Diva Mia and Diva Cat.
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Well, hello, Diva Cat. Hello, Diva Mia.
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How are you today? I'm good today. Did you have a great week?
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I love the week like this. Sunshine.
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Sun, please don't go. Please don't go. Yeah, I love the sun.
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You know, the sun is kind of hard on our skin. I know.
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I'm going to regret it. That's why I need all the help I need because I love
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the sun too much. Oh, dude. Are you a sunbather?
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Yeah. Here's the thing. They keep trying to push me to wear sunscreen,
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and I never do. And I still look young, and I just don't want to.
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Well, I wear sunscreen, just my face. They say just to color it.
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But do you know what I noticed?
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My age part starts showing a lot, even with the sunscreen. Really? Yeah.
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Well, there's modalities to take care of that. But let's start off with like,
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oh, today we're going to talk about modalities and things to affect your face.
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So when you go bathing in the sun, you can actually counteract it with other things. I know.
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That's why all the drinks go coming from, I think.
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No, wrinkles come from other places.
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But they're always Botox. I love Botox. Oh, you and your Botox.
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So tell me about your Botox. What kind of Botox do you use? I don't know. I use Botox.
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Well, there's different kinds, you know. Is there really? So there's Botox,
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and that's the most common use for wrinkles. Most people know about that.
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There's also, it's called Dye Sport. I've heard about that. It's faster.
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Okay. It works a broader area, so it's a little bit more concentrated.
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Uh-huh. There's Zealman, which is kind of a purer form of Botox.
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Juveau, which I've been hearing a lot of. I've heard a lot of Juveau.
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It's a newer option. I don't know the specific brand on it. And there's Daxify,
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and that's also another wrinkle solutions.
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And different ones are for different wrinkles, right? Some are for lighter wrinkles.
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Some are for deeper wrinkles. Like I have this wrinkle right here.
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By my eyebrow that I might Botox, but I don't want to.
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No, your face is perfectly fine. Well, you know me.
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I would probably have every side effect there is. That's what I'm saying.
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So I think my body was built for all these chemicals, pharmaceuticals.
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You can take it all, I will say.
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You can take it all and don't seem to have any problems. No.
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So what areas do you Botox? I do, you know, number 11, right?
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In between your eyebrows? Between my eyebrows. I do the wrinkle.
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The cat's crows. The cat's crows. And around my... Yep, around my nursery. Oh, yeah.
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And my forehead. And how often do you do it? Well, I only do it once a year.
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Only once a year, huh? And when do you usually do it? Like before the holidays?
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Before the holidays or before big events I'm going to go.
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I just did mine just because my niece's wedding was just past weekend.
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So I did like three weeks before that. You know, it takes two weeks to three
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weeks to settle down. Okay.
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Yeah. Does it swell up or anything? No. See, I don't have any problems.
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Some people think like they have bruised from the needles.
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Wow. I did not have any of that. Diva, you are set for all pharmaceuticals.
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You're like the perfect test subject if somebody wants their pharmaceuticals to pass.
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No, I'm actually going to sign up for a clinical trial.
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Are you? Yeah, my husband think I'm crazy. I said, no, yeah, not kidney pig.
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But I think I will be perfectly fine. Well, you know what? When you start growing
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extra antlers, you let me know.
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Or extra hair. Or extra hair. There you go. So some of the side effects,
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though, I have heard of people getting things swelling up and bruising and redness.
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You can even get an infection.
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I know. I heard a lot of bad things. But so far, knock on wood,
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well, nothing happened to me yet to slow down.
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I had a friend that did it and her eye drooped.
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And I was like, oh. And it took her like weeks and weeks for the eye to come
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back. You need to read the review, whoever's going to inject your face. Yeah. Yeah.
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I've read tons of review. I had to see the result first before I see that.
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People want to shop, go for cheap. No, cheap doesn't work.
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You have to pay the price. If you go for cheap, yeah, no. That's how you get
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your eye droop. People in California, they have like lunchtime Botox.
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People in Miami do it right in dentist's office. Wow.
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Yeah. You have to be careful for that. Yeah. So it's where you go, how much you want to pay.
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Those are something you don't want to shop for like on sale.
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No. Depending on the doctor, whoever's doing it, it could be okay or you could have major problems.
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Right. One of the other side effects, as I know, is that people can get blurred
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vision or a major allergic reaction like I would probably get.
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Yeah, no. You don't want to end up in my hospital again. No more hospitals for me, please.
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Yeah, so you have to be careful when you're doing any of these kind of treatments for your face.
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I like to do different types of lasers. You do? I've done a halo and I've done a BBL.
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Now, that doesn't deal with the wrinkles, really. It's more for pigmentation
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and it's kind of like a laser version of a chemical peel, if you will.
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And then I also do lots of facials and hydrafacials and things like that.
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I kind of go a little bit more natural than chemicals inside my body.
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Yeah, but it's a lot of money. Well, so is the Botox. Yeah, the Botox,
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you know, it works every time.
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Those is like, you have to keep consistency doing it. You got to be consistent.
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That's the thing. Things that you can do on a daily basis, too.
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I think we forget that, you know, you can be consistently doing things on a
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daily basis. Like, retinols are big. Yeah.
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If you want to do daily treatments, you can do different types of retinols.
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I use vitamin C serum. Have you ever used that? I'm lazy. Yeah? Yeah.
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I was at a cryo conference last week, and one of the big things they were talking
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about were peptides for faces and bodies and everything.
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Is it really? Yeah, and there's peptides that you can get that make your skin
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firmer. It also repairs your skin. It can help with healing.
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Peptides seem to be all the rage lately. Yeah? What they do is they assist cellular action.
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Your current systems work better, if that makes sense. Well,
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I just saw another new live products coming out, especially,
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well, I'm Asian, right? The Korean skincare is like huge in our part of the
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town. Even if Korean masks are huge, too.
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Yeah. So I noticed this facial cream I bought is super expensive,
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by the way. I think it's like 90 bucks from Amazon.
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Yeah. It's called snail... Snail masks.
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Snail masks and snail moisturizer come in like three different kinds.
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You think I do it? No, I'm too lazy.
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Really? I need to start doing them. I have so many problems.
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Like I bought them, but I did it for like two times and I got lazy. Yeah.
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Well, you know, we need to do daily care. I think that's important for our skin.
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I am the worst offender, though. I really, until I hit 50, didn't really do anything for my skin.
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Really? I did facials once a year, and that was about it. And I never wrinkled.
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It was just, I'm lucky because I have good genes.
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You are lucky. I didn't really do anything. And I never Botox.
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So I just never wanted to do any of that stuff. Yeah. So funny that you talk
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about, like, doing natural way and do every day. You know, I go to the sauna, right?
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Yeah. So this girl, she put this oil,
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all over her face, her neck. Yeah. And she used this thing. It looked like a scraper. Yeah. Yeah.
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So I asked, could we go to the, after we come out from the heated yoga and she
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always, we always end up, go to back to the sauna and do that shower.
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And I see her do that every day. Yeah. So she's exfoliating every day.
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It's funny you say it's a vitamin C. That's all she does. It's a vitamin C oil.
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It's oil lower, lower. She says, especially your body's already heated.
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And then she just sit in the sauna room for like 15 minutes.
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And her skin looks good? She is glowing.
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Really? And I know she's about 65 plus because... Wow.
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Yeah, because she's in the Aurora Club, so she's got to be up there.
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What's the Aurora Club? Aurora Club at our gym is for people who order.
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Oh, gotcha. We can buy up, I think. Okay.
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And she looks flawless. She looks flawless. I'm telling you.
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I know people that use coconut oil and they're just consistent.
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They use it on their hair and their face, and it consistently keeps their face looking younger.
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I'm telling you, yeah, I think the key is consistent, and I'm guilty of being lazy.
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I mean, I bust out, and I use it for like two times. You have to create the habit. Yeah.
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And once you create the habit, you'll be doing it more consistently.
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It's kind of like brushing your teeth. Yeah.
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But you've got to have the habit. Sometimes you just need to stick a reminder
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in your calendar that once a week you're going to do your dermaplaning,
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And then once a month, you're going to do your microneedling and things like that.
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So those are things you can do. We'll talk about as well.
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Hyaluronic acid, which is big lately for plumping.
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So if you want bigger lips or how you get those dark circles under your eyes
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when you haven't slept, it'll plump it up so that it doesn't look as dark.
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Is it really? Yeah, that's big lately too. I bought the snail eye mask.
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Did you? Yeah, I kept in the freezer. Do you know what's in that? No idea.
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Okay. There's also niaminoside. I've seen that a lot lately too.
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I need to read the back of the jar, see what they have. Yeah,
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so niaminoside reduces inflammation and I know I need that. I think a lot of people need that.
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The snail mask is phosphate, 3% phosphate and iron phosphate. Very slimy.
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I don't know. So I keep in the refrigerator the mask and the eye mask.
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What I do when I wake up, you know, drinking my coffee, walk around the kitchen, put things away.
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So I put that mask first, mainly because it's cold and it feels good to keep me awake.
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Okay, so here's the full detail on the snail mask. So it's got proteins,
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enzymes, hyaluronic acid, which we just talked about, copper peptides,
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which is interesting, antimicrobial peptides, iron, zinc, and proteoglycans.
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All of those things are really good for skin care, and they put it all together
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in a mask, and you wear it for either overnight or for a few hours, and you're all set.
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I want it every morning just because it's nice and cold and keeps me refreshed.
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And how long do you leave it on for?
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I leave it on until I finish my show. It's about 30 minutes in the morning.
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I usually put a mask on at night and then sleep in it. Oh, no.
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When I sleep, I cannot have anything. Everything comes off. Yeah.
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I have also seen people use growth factor serums, but I'm always worried about
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that with promoting cancer. Like, it helps with skin growth. I don't know.
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So I'm going to stick with this snail thing. Yeah, I like it.
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Huh. I wish I bought more.
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It's super cheap, too, like 10 for 10 at the Korean grocery store.
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Well, and you can get them online on Amazon. These have some cheap ones,
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too. I just got some bubble masks online.
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That's supposed to help with purification.
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For me, I think I just have a little bit of pigment issues here and there I
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like to get rid of. Well, I'm 60. I have everything.
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Well, one of the other things I just started having done and sometimes I do
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myself is microneedling. Have you ever done that? Oh, it hurts.
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To me, it doesn't hurt at all. I don't do it. Well, no.
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It felt like the roller thing you told me to do. The roller thing, yeah. The roller.
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It felt like 20,000 needles. Did you do it on your body or your face?
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I wrote it underneath my arm. Yeah. I have this saggy thing.
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So what it does is it makes little micro injuries on your skin.
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It's supposed to stimulate collagen really well.
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Oh, really? Yeah, like collagen production in whatever area that got injured.
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How about the thing that it looks just like the same lady?
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It's just like three legs and she'll hold the top. It has three legs.
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Oh, that's for getting rid of cellulite.
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That's what it is? Yeah. That's not for stimulating collagen.
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Oh, okay. I saw her doing that on the arm, on the leg. See, but there's so much
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work when you want to go naturally, don't you think?
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Well, just go plastic, dirty, nip and tuck, and it's done. Wake up, beautiful.
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Yeah, you could do that. But, you know, some people don't want to get their skin off.
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It's actually very, I mean, there's something that I don't think I, but I really wanted it.
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Well, I want to do this. Yeah, your neck. I would, you know, I might.
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My neck is, it's not perfect. My neck does bother me. And I think a neck is
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very important because you got so much skin on your neck.
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It really does change the way you look youthfully or not. Mm-hmm.
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How about the Osaida? Just let it age naturally. I'm not into that either.
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I want to stay looking young as long as possible. Me too. You know,
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it's funny, though. I do think I look younger each year.
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But I think a lot of it's from the inside out, not necessarily from the outside in.
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That's another thing. The girls that talk about the skins, she said what you eat is very important.
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It is. You have to drink a lot of water. And vitamin C is very important,
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too. Not just on the outside, but on the inside.
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Like taking vitamin C, you mean? Taking vitamin C. That helps with collagen
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production as well as vitamin D.
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D3K2 is one of the most underestimated vitamins that is needed for skin.
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I thought you just lay in the sun and you get all that. Well,
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you do, but not during the wintertime.
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And most people don't get enough sun unless they're sunbathing.
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And then you have the difficulty of, did I just cause more wrinkles than I needed?
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That's another of my problem, too. I don't keep up with all of those vitamins.
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Unless it comes to gummies. Is it coming in gummies? Yes, it comes in gummies.
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Okay, I love gummies. Yes, I know. You love your sugar gummies.
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We'll have to get you some vitamin D and K2, D3, K2 vitamins that are gummies.
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And they have different flavors, too. And they have them for adults.
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How about if they have these multiplied gummies for adults, you know,
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it's just you take two of them, it just doesn't cover all of that, no?
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The multivitamin? They say that a minimum you need 5,000 IUs of vitamin D a day.
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If you have an autoimmune, they're now talking that you might need 20,000 to 30,000 IUs a day.
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So you need to talk to your doctor and say, hey, this is what I need.
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This is my health concerns. What should I specifically be taking?
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Because they're upping every year. They seem to keep increasing what you need
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is vitamin D because nobody goes outside anymore. Yeah.
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I will say, though, my esthetician told me that water is the cheapest one.
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You have to drink your water.
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Water is great, yes. Water, it helps flush toxins and keeps your skin hydrated.
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Talking about water, there's a thing called a hydrafacial. Have you ever had one? No.
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The reason I don't do that is because I have lashes on. When I have hydro,
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you know, my lashes fall off. Do you have lashes on now? Yeah.
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Oh, okay. The hydrafacial, it's, you know, I have a little bit of issue with the hydrafacial.
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It basically, it's a machine that puts a chemical on your face.
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The first one is to, like, open up your pores, and then they do,
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like, a peel, and then they suck out all the dead skin and stuff.
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And this machine, it's, like, constantly sucking on your face.
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It's supposed to exfoliate and hydrate in one session.
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I'm not a fan because I tend to get pores blocked afterwards,
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believe it or not, and then I get acne.
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And, you know, they keep telling me, oh, that's not normal, but every single
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time I go, it doesn't matter who I go to, I have the same problem.
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They say it's hydrating my face, but I'm like, you're giving me,
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you know, blocked pores with this. Maybe it opened up your pores more and then...
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No, I just think my skin doesn't like the chemical and it reacts to it. Back to the chemicals.
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It's always back to the chemicals. Maybe it works for me because I'm good with
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chemicals. It could be. It could be. They are pricey. They're about $175 a facial.
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Oh, that's a no already. Yeah, or more. It depends on where you go.
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And then if you add like little boosts and things like that or dermaplaning,
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it can get pricey. See, to do...
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To keep up, it's very, very pricey. A hydrafacial, you're only going to do once a month.
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It's not a weekly thing. It's a once a month thing or once every two months.
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So you're not doing it often. I personally enjoy a good old facial,
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just a regular old facial where they do extractions and moisturizing,
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maybe a light chemical peel, a little bit of microneedling, and they do it all.
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My favorite place, I have a friend that is in Hawaii that she does amazing facials.
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And she has a place in Austin, Texas now. she just opened as well.
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Oh, that's fun. And she's expanding.
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Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, so you've got to find a good facial person because
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everybody's a little different.
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Yeah. So when you find your person, sometimes it's worth traveling.
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Yeah, sometimes you have to stick with it. But the lady that taking care of
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my face, she's been doing it for 12 years.
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Yeah. And that's all she does. No machinery, nothing. Just a good old scrub.
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I go every month. So she scrubs, she cleans, she exfoliates,
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all that stuff. Yeah, and she take all my hands out. I'll have to try your lady.
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She's amazing. And everything's by hand, no machinery. Yeah.
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That's the way to go. Yeah, I think so too. But I think I need something stronger though.
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I do like the microneedling that my woman does. It's really nice how she does that.
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I have to try. So then there's also chemical peel. So they can do a light chemical
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peel or a really deep chemical peel.
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And that helps with texture and pigmentation, kind of like the laser I talked about.
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Well, let me tell you about a chemical peel. I experienced it worse.
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What happened? When I turned 30, you know, it's a big package, right?
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You know, I go for, I had a gift certificate.
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And this spa is very well known. Really? Yeah, very well known.
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We did that. It was like three hours thing. But it felt really,
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it felt burning when she put it in.
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And she also had this like crystal ball cold following it.
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Rub around your face. And she also gave me one of those cold crystal ball to
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put it in the freezer and put it around your face. girl the next day,
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I have patches all over my face. Oh my goodness. So you had a reaction to a chemical.
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Yes. And she was like, whatever happened, do not peel it, do not touch it. But it's mad how it.
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Oh wow. I never do it again. It still leaves the scar here. Oh my goodness.
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So you got to be careful with chemical peels too, just like anything.
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Yes. I would not recommend it. Well, from my personal experience, it might work for you.
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Yeah. Have you ever done red light? Red light I like. You do it on your face? Yeah.
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So they have those red light things. I got one on Amazon that you can actually use.
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It's curved and you can run it up and down your neck to actually tighten your neck. I bought that.
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It come in like different level, different colors, blue, green,
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and then red at the end. Oh yeah?
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Yeah. I just got it two weeks ago, but we'll see. That's nice.
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Yeah, I know. I still have to use it though. It's still in the trash.
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You're so silly. I've used mine. It's good with inflammation and it helps collagen again.
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I mean, so red light is one of those nice modalities that it's very affordable.
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It's more affordable if you if you own one yourself and there's so many different
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red lights you can get to i don't know the different requirements for different things
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And the distance that you keep it away from you depends on what area you're doing, too.
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My ladies have a mask. Oh, the red light mask. I've seen those.
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I don't know. I haven't tried it yet. Maybe next, now that you talked about
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it, next time I see her, I'm going to ask her to use that.
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You know what we need to do is we need to do these red lights and do before
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and after so we can see how much we are actually changing from the red light therapy itself.
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But I think, how often do you have to do, can you look, the red light therapy?
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Red light therapy you can do every day.
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Is there really? Yeah, red light therapy you can do every day.
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The key is you have to do every day. That's the key. You do.
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Well, you don't have to do it every day. I think two to three times a week is enough.
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Yeah. But you can do it every day because I know there are people that do it
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every day. I think three times a week is probably more than enough.
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So now do you have to loop yourself first before you put that thing on or just...
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No, no, no. You don't loop it at all.
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Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, no. You just put that... You just run it up and down.
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You don't even have to have it super close.
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Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make a commitment to it instead
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of carrying my phone watching Netflix. You know how you wind out at the end
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of the night? I'm going to just use that red light.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, I want to see the results. So what I want you to do is take
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a picture of your neck. Okay.
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I want you to do it three times a week for a month and then take a picture again.
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We'll see what happens. Okay.
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And then we'll post it. Have you ever had an oxygen facial? No.
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Yeah. So oxygen facials are big popular now too.
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I mean, a lot of the places you go to, there's different places that have all
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these different facials and modalities, but...
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That's more for hydrating skin. It also kind of helps if you have acne. Is it really?
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Yeah, it's good for your skin. I mean, I've seen a lot of good results from
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people that do oxygen facials. And then there's radiofrequency.
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What is that? So that can be more invasive. You know, it's done at like one
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of those spas or medded spas.
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It tightens your skin and it heats it up and then that stimulates collagen.
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So those are non-invasive. You know, Botox is actually considered minimally invasive.
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The more frequent you're supposed to do is like three months.
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Well, it can be. I mean, I don't know. I've never, I don't do Botox.
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Yeah, it's just three to four months is how often you're supposed to do Botox. Oh, wow.
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So every three to four months, people do Botox. And that's a lot of chemicals
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to put in your body. A lot of money, too. Have you ever done a filler?
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No. I know that's huge lately, especially as we age. So what happens with the
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face is as we age, we lose fat in our face. Uh-huh.
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And you don't gain it back. And so people's skin starts to droop.
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And as it droops, people are like, oh, what am I going to do?
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And they fill it with fat. But you know the biggest thing?
20:29
What? For your face is vitamin D3 and K2 because part of the drooping is also caused from bone loss.
20:37
Your face actually starts to droop because you lose so much bone in your face.
20:40
Yeah, that makes sense. Bone, muscle, as well as fat. So when you lose bone,
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muscle, and fat, you start to wrinkle.
20:48
And that's part of it. It's not just collagen. A lot of people think,
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oh, I just need collagen and I just need Botox. No, it's not that.
20:54
It's that you need to increase your bone mass. You need to increase your muscle mass.
20:58
I have seen these little plastic things you can chew on to tighten your jaw
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to help your jawline. So it's bone.
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People just think it's skin. It's not.
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It's bone, muscle, and fat too. Well, I know as you're older, you're shrinking.
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So that's got to be part of your bone. Well, I know my face seems to get thinner
21:14
as I get older, but I've lost a lot of weight too. You lost a lot of weight too. Fillers are huge.
21:18
So there's Resiline. I've heard of that in Juvederm.
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But the fillers are huge. Really? People are getting them on their eyes.
21:25
I've seen that. You can also do PRP. You know what that is? No.
21:29
So I've done that. I think I've done almost all these except for Botox. Platelet-rich plasma.
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Now, I haven't done it, the injection, because they will inject it under your eyes. Okay.
21:38
And basically what they do is they take your blood and they spin it down to get platelets.
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Okay. And then they inject the plasma back into your body. Now,
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I've done it on muscle tears, like joint tears, like shoulders and knees and
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things like that. But I've also done what's called a vampire facial,
21:52
and that's platelet plasma.
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So what they do is they spin it down, and then they microneedle your face,
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and then they put the platelet plasma back on your face. So your face is covered in your own blood.
22:03
That's from your own blood, though? Your own blood, yes. You use your own blood.
22:07
So they draw your blood. They spin it down.
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They basically slice up your face a little bit with the microneedling,
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and then they stick the blood on it.
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Yeah. And your face gets really red and swollen, and that also stimulates collagen as well.
22:20
And it also boosts your natural growth factors for skin rejuvenation.
22:25
So it's almost like you're reproducing your face.
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Your face. Yeah, that's interesting. That looks scary, though.
22:31
It is vampire. Well, the thing is, you're not supposed to go in the sun for
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about a week after either.
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And I say I always use sunscreen, too, but it's still considered minimally invasive.
22:40
I think I'll stick with Botox. Yeah. Well, you can. And there's mesotherapy,
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which I haven't heard a lot about.
22:46
I haven't done this modality, but they inject vitamins or enzymes or even,
22:50
you know, different things into your face. It's supposed to tighten, sometimes hormones.
22:53
Right, in your face. Into your face. Huh.
22:56
Yeah. And then you can also get threading done. Have you heard of threading?
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Oh, my sister-in-law had that done. Did she like it? And she loves it. Yeah? Yeah.
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She went to, she had it done when she was on vacation. Was this in the Philippines?
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No, in Laos. In Laos. Okay. She has it done and she loves it.
23:12
So it lifts your sagging skin, and it's like minimally invasive type of plastic
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surgery, so you don't have to go in and get your skin cut. They just thread it. They thread it up.
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Loves the outcome, especially around her neck and her chin, she'd say.
23:24
She looked like 10 years younger, for sure.
23:26
The thing about threading is it's minimally invasive.
23:29
But it's painful. It is painful. It only lasts up to three years,
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though. So it's not a forever product.
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I think it's worth it, no? You know, if I'm going to do that,
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I'm going to go through pain, I think I would probably do plastic surgery.
23:39
That's what I said. If I'm going to go through on a plane and wake up,
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two weeks later, it's all here, then it better be last meet with me forever.
23:45
Yeah. Not one, not forever, like at least 10 years. You know,
23:48
speaking about hormones, you know, I've seen there's a big push out there,
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at least on social media and YouTube and stuff.
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To use estrogen that you put down there, like the cream, on your face.
23:57
Is it really? It's supposed to help with wrinkles. Huh.
24:00
You got to be careful, though, if you're using estrogen cream because it can
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offshoot your hormones. Like, even if you put it on your face. Huh.
24:07
And people have been using estrogen cream now on their faces.
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Yeah, Google it sometime.
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There's so many videos on it lately about estrogen cream and put it on your
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face instead of putting it down by your vajayjay. Huh. Oh, yeah.
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Oh, yeah. A new thing. A new thing. I think I'll stick with the snail.
24:23
No i'm good with that i'd rather have a snail on my face than
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estrogen yeah i don't know about that now
24:29
let's talk about ultherapy so this is
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an ultrasound i've had ultherapy done have you heard of ultherapy no
24:35
i've learned a lot today i tell you i've done
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so many modalities as part of kind of my autoimmune healing
24:41
i kind of i kind of gotten sold by different
24:44
places to do other stuff too and i've gotten
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sucked into a lot of different and plus you know i do like to
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kind of biohack myself yeah if you
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will so i biohack everything on me the old
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therapy it's non-surgical it's a radio frequency
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and it goes deep and it tightens your skin and people use it for facelifts and
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i did it for my neck and it tightened it a little now it's not it's not a permanent
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fix but it seems to have worked how often you have to do that i think you're
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supposed to do it every couple years some people do do it yearly though i have
25:15
seen that as well It's kind of like the laser, right?
25:18
People do the laser every six months. Halo, people do once a year.
25:22
So O-therapy, it can last one to five years. I think it's worth it. It might be worth it.
25:27
No, there's a little pain. And I know you're very sensitive with your face.
25:31
There's a little pain. And then there's laser resurfacing.
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There's a CO2 laser or a Fraxilaser that fixes your tone, your texture, and your lines.
25:39
And the lasers are becoming, I mean, people are using them on their face,
25:42
and they're also using them down under. The CO2 laser I hear is very popular down under lately.
25:46
People are restructuring the whole vajayjay too. The whole vajayjay.
25:50
Yeah. The whole area. I've been through laser hair treatment down there.
25:55
Then I think I'm good with that. It was painful.
25:57
I've done laser down there. It's not so bad. Your pain tolerance and my pain
26:01
tolerance are night and day different.
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But I would say though, I could tolerance the Botox. It's about 30 needles around
26:07
my whole eyes and my forehead.
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I don't think it's a pain thing with me on Botox. I just don't want those chemicals in my body.
26:13
I don't like to put poison into my body. It's not poison. It fades away? It's poison. Wow, yeah.
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Is it really? Yeah, it's very toxic for the body. It may fade away,
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but your body has to process it out.
26:25
So basically, you're putting a severe toxin into your body. Really?
26:28
You didn't know that? Wow, yeah.
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I just don't know that, but I just don't want to know that. Okay,
26:34
so technically, it's considered botulism poison.
26:37
But yeah, it's a poison. Everything's poison. The brain you eat is poison. Leave my Botox alone.
26:43
Well, there you have it. Life by Diva Cat. That I get a life chemistry.
26:49
Leave her chemicals alone.
26:53
Yeah, it's a neurotoxin. So, yeah, it's like, well, it's only percentage of it.
26:57
Okay, well, you keep explaining it away to me, and I'll keep not doing it,
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and you can keep doing it. Oh, I love it. You justify it. You're good.
27:03
Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. It's your thing. I'm not going to take it away.
27:06
Yeah. Yeah, my body just meant to build for chemical. Like I said,
27:11
better life through chemistry.
27:12
Well, I like better life through work. And so, like, for me, I do, like, a BBL laser.
27:17
Too much work. Yeah, well, you know, you lay there. I mean, it's like you're
27:20
not working, but you do have to recover from it. That's true.
27:23
I just did that two days ago. Is it really?
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Yeah, I did a BBL. Yeah, I did a BBL on my face. What do you do?
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Keep on doing it. Yeah, well, you know, I just started doing all this stuff. Yeah.
27:32
All the BBL does is it takes away the pigment, like freckles, these age spots you get.
27:39
It'll take those off. That's why you don't have any of those.
27:41
Well, I never really had them before, but I had some freckles.
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I was born with these freckles. I don't know. No, it'll take them off.
27:46
Is it? See, they did my mole, my beauty mark down here once,
27:51
and it really lightened it, too, which I didn't want them to do, but they did it anyway.
27:56
I forgot to tell them not to, and they had already done it. I was like,
27:58
oh, crap, I should have told you not to do it. Yeah.
28:01
But I did my chest, too. So what it does is at first it makes the, see these freckles?
28:06
At first it makes them darker, and then they actually fall off.
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Yeah, I was born with this freckle. Even with my baby picture,
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you know, when, you know, grow up, the school pictures, you know?
28:15
Yeah. I already have these, but now I think because I'm older,
28:18
it gets more noticeable or maybe it's in my head.
28:21
Well, you might have age spots too, but that's the way to get rid of age spots
28:24
is to do like a BBL laser. How expensive is that?
28:27
I don't know. I have a package. I have to look at it. I think you get like six
28:31
treatments for like $2,000 or something like that. Oh, yeah. That's a no already.
28:35
And so then there's also IPL laser. Have you heard of that? No.
28:40
Targets pigment. It also boosts collagen, but it's going to make you red for
28:44
a little bit. But it gets really like redness, so I get a rosacea on my cheeks.
28:48
Wow. And that takes it off, too. I saw a commercial about photofacial laser
28:52
treatment. I don't know what the photofacial laser is.
28:55
Yeah, I saw the commercial on the TV the other day. But they say you have to
28:58
go to multiple one. It doesn't take care just for one. It's maybe the same thing?
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It might be. Yeah, it's an IPL. Is it what it is? It's a BBL,
29:06
IPL, same type of thing. They just call different names.
29:10
Different names, yeah. Okay. And then there's also Morpheus 8 and that's microneedling with RF.
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If you don't like the microneedling from the little rollers you have,
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you would not be able to handle Morpheus 8.
29:22
I've done Morpheus 8. I did that on my neck too. I guess I've done a lot of
29:25
stuff because my neck is really the only thing that bothers me.
29:28
I also did Morpheus 8 on my arms.
29:30
And so basically what it does, it's got these prongs.
29:34
I'm going to get a little graphic. So if you're driving and you get a little
29:39
nauseous, you might want to pull over.
29:40
But anyway, it takes these prongs and it sticks it into your body.
29:43
And then it charges it basically with a radio frequency that heats it up. Wow.
29:48
And it kind of feels like you're getting electrocuted in these little areas.
29:51
My friend Tammy, she hates it because when I come back from it,
29:55
I have these little, it looks like little holes. It looks like hickey.
29:57
It looks like little holes in my neck, and it drives her nuts.
30:01
She sees it, and she actually gets nauseous from looking at my neck.
30:04
But I did, yeah, I did Morpheus 8. It's painful.
30:07
Does it itch while it's healing? How long does parts stay there?
30:11
It doesn't itch while it's healing.
30:13
Okay. It kind of takes a while. It takes a couple weeks to heal up because the
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needle's going pretty deep.
30:19
It is something my friend Tammy, she hated it. She hated watching it.
30:22
She said it was terrible.
30:23
Yeah, the face that I go for my Botox, she also does that. But injection,
30:27
but I don't know what she injected with. Well, this is, it's a machine, right?
30:30
So first it put it on you and it goes inject and then it fires.
30:34
And then they move it to the next spot, inject, fires. And it goes,
30:36
and there are women that think they can handle pain and then they go in and
30:40
they buy a package, which is worse.
30:42
If you're going to do Morpheus 8, don't buy a package. Yeah. Do one first.
30:47
I bought a package because I have a huge pain tolerance.
30:51
And, but when I got, I was like, oh, that really does hurt.
30:53
Because she said one woman was screaming the whole
30:56
time she couldn't even finish because it was so it was
30:59
so painful and they do numb it so they do spend like an
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you numb with a numbing cream for like an hour but you still feel
31:05
it yeah because it goes in deep right so it goes in pretty deep and then it
31:09
but it does tighten i will say i had a lot looser skin here and it lasts so
31:13
i do like the morpheus 8 it lasts for a while i think that eventually i will
31:18
probably have my neck tightened through plastic surgery, but for now,
31:22
it seems to work. Yeah, whatever you do is working.
31:24
Yeah. I think I can take that pain.
31:27
Can they put you to sleep while they're doing it? Maybe much better.
31:30
Sleep while you're doing it. The old therapy, I think, lasts a little longer.
31:34
But that's deep tissue, too. I mean, it's not. A lot of these energy-based treatments,
31:40
if you will, they're painful.
31:42
And you just got to deal with it or you just go the old route of plastic surgery.
31:48
Or drink a lot of water. Drink a lot of water. Well, that's lifestyle,
31:51
right? So let's talk lifestyle for a second.
31:54
So some people are doing hormone replacement therapy because a lot of your skin
31:58
texture is based on hormones.
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Yeah, you lose everything after you age. And when you go through menopause,
32:04
right? Oh, my God. Menopause. That's a... Yeah.
32:06
Yes. I'm scared about that. So a lot of people are doing hormone replacement
32:09
therapy, again, putting estrogen on their faces, but they're also doing it to
32:13
make their skin thicker and improve skin elasticity. Wow.
32:17
Never thought of it. Yeah. Do your research. Ask your doctor.
32:20
Find out what works best for you.
32:22
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Have you ever supplemented with collagen? I,
32:25
you know, I drink that collagen powder with my coffee every morning.
32:28
Yeah. That helps, too. Mm-hmm. They said if you eat chicken feet,
32:31
it also helps. That's a straight collagen. Collagen helps and vitamin C helps
32:35
again, as well as vitamin D.
32:36
So there we are. Back to those three things. You take those three things, it's going to help a lot.
32:41
Yeah. I already drink my collagen with my coffee every morning.
32:45
So I'm going to add the other two.
32:46
You know, vitamin E helps too. I've seen a lot of vitamin E serums.
32:49
Yeah, I saw that too. And probably maybe taking vitamin E orally,
32:52
like a copotrinol or something like that would help. I remember growing up, you know, I'm clumsy.
32:57
I always have a cut here and there. And my mom's always give me that vitamin E.
33:00
Vitamin E. It helps with the scars, yeah. Yeah.
33:03
Oh, the laser treatments, the IPLs also help with scarring. So if you have like
33:06
a scar that you want to get rid of, let's say you do the arm treatment.
33:09
Let's say you're going for plastic surgery and you do the arms.
33:12
And you have that line under your arm after you get your skin tightened on your arms.
33:17
They can laser that too to lighten the scar.
33:20
I have to look into that laser, photo laser. The IPL laser, yeah.
33:25
Laser yeah yeah well it's the same it's not gonna be the
33:27
same thing with chemical peel isn't it oh no no it's a little zap
33:30
zap zap zap zap to your skin the IPL is not as
33:33
painful as the Morpheus 8 I will say you still
33:36
feel it though if you don't like laser treatments down below because that's
33:40
a form of an IPL right if you don't like laser treatments in your vaginal area
33:45
if your face is as sensitive as your vaginal area you're not going to like laser
33:49
treatments so again any laser treatments that you're doing or any energy treatments,
33:54
I recommend just doing one.
33:55
Make sure you're okay with it. Yeah. Maybe a little spot first.
33:59
Yeah. And then if you want to buy a package, do. But don't go in and buy a big
34:02
package of 10 and then find out. Yeah. Because a lot of the places that you
34:05
buy from won't let you get a refund.
34:07
Right. And they try to sell you the whole package. They do. But I would say
34:10
go and try one and say, I'll buy the package if I like it. Right.
34:15
That's how I do it. And you're not supposed to be out in the sun for a couple
34:18
of weeks. No. No, you're not supposed to go for a couple of weeks after.
34:20
You're not supposed to do anything else to your face. That's why I'm wearing
34:22
a hat. Why I'm wearing my hat everywhere.
34:24
Oh, yeah. OK, it does make sense. But diet and nutrition is important, too. Right. Because.
34:29
The beauty comes from the inside out. One of the big things is,
34:33
you know, you've got antioxidants you need to take and omega-3 fatty acids are big as well.
34:38
And if you don't take some of these things and then the vitamin C,
34:41
the vitamin D, the D3K2, those types of things are really good to help your skin health as well.
34:47
So when is the best time to take all these vitamins?
34:50
In the morning, at night? Well, it depends on the supplement,
34:52
right? I take vitamin D throughout the day. I'll do some in the morning, do some at night.
34:56
I see. Yeah. And there are supplements out there that are called Skin Health.
35:00
You actually can get them on Amazon. I don't know how great they are,
35:03
but it's called Skin Health and it has all of these little things in one supplement,
35:07
but it's not a gummy. No. It's got to be a gummy.
35:11
I can't swallow. It's like a horse peel. That's what your husband said.
35:17
No, I don't do that, period. That's gross. Oh, my goodness.
35:23
Have you seen those beyond the size of your thumb there's no
35:26
way in how i'm gonna swallow i can swallow all pills
35:29
and other things too that we
35:33
know tmi yeah i could swallow all the things too and horse pills and oh my god
35:39
yes yes oh no here's the big thing that people don't realize how much is this
35:44
is one of the most important things for your skin health decreasing your stress
35:48
which is why I think I look younger, right?
35:50
I've decreased my stress abundantly. And sleep. Oh, I love my sleep.
35:54
I could sleep like 12 hours a day, no problem.
35:56
Yeah, so you get your sleep, you get your sleep and you decrease your stress.
36:01
Your skin on your face is going to look better.
36:03
Oh, yeah. When you decrease your stress, you don't have stress or very little
36:07
stress. You already look so much better anyway.
36:10
Well, this wrinkle here by my eyebrow, I never had until after I got divorced,
36:13
so I call it my divorce wrinkle. Tell you the truth, though.
36:16
I don't even know this until you point it out.
36:18
Well, you have one, too. Right here? Yeah. Well, this, I think I had it ever since I was born.
36:22
It tends to come when you focus on stuff and your forehead gets crossed.
36:27
I squinch my eyes a lot. Yeah. I think a lot of people, I see it a lot.
36:30
I see it on people in their 20s, too, but I didn't have it until I got divorced,
36:34
because I looked back on pictures and I didn't even, that's my only wrinkle.
36:37
I think mine comes from when my eyes start to go bad instead of go get an eye
36:41
check or get a read it. Yeah. For readers, I kept doing this.
36:45
We'll have to figure out how to get rid of it because I don't know if you can
36:48
tighten it enough or maybe get a brow lift that it would take away because it's
36:51
really deep. It's a really deep wrinkle.
36:53
It's deep right here. Yeah. And this is my bone.
36:56
Yeah, it's right between the eyebrows. So I know a lot of women have it.
36:59
So if you guys know how to get rid of that really deep wrinkle between your
37:04
eyebrows, please let us know on the podcast. Just message us. Yes.
37:07
Shoot us an email. That would be great. That would be great.
37:10
No filler, though. I won't do filler there.
37:12
So, yeah, I don't think it's a filler. I think it's a Botox thing, actually.
37:16
So you could Botox it away. Yeah, that's not going to, like,
37:19
it's not going to make my eyebrow not going to be left sided, isn't it? No.
37:23
Because only one side. You'd have to get a really good person that knows how
37:26
to handle that, but I think it would work. I mean, you just have to,
37:29
you know, work it out. Yeah.
37:31
Although my Botox lady told me that I need to come more often instead of like
37:35
once a year. For every, what is it, three to four months is what they said for
37:38
Botox. Yeah, but they all say that, no?
37:40
Yeah, we'll see. Let's kind of go over some of the pros and cons if we can.
37:44
Okay. We talked about retinols. That's kind of the gold standard lately.
37:48
Everybody's using retinols. It makes my skin pale. It can cause dryness.
37:52
Yeah, and it can also cause photosensitivity.
37:55
People don't realize you put retinols on, you should be going out in the sun. Yeah.
37:58
It can also make your face sensitive and cause age spots because you're going
38:02
to be more photosensitive. A lot of these treatments that people use,
38:05
they don't realize all the different side effects, even from the over-the-counter
38:09
stuff that you're going to have.
38:10
I mean, I know people take vitamins and they think, oh, it's just a vitamin.
38:13
It's not going to cause a problem. And then they have a major reaction.
38:17
And like vitamin C serum, it can irritate your skin. You can have an allergic
38:20
reaction to that. Oh, wow. Even vitamin C? Even vitamin C.
38:23
So people have different reactions. I mean, come on, look at me.
38:26
I'm allergic to chocolate.
38:27
Oh, I love chocolate. If I get cocoa butter on my skin and there's it on a lot
38:30
of different creams, I would break out in a rash.
38:33
So no chocolate facial for you or no Diet Coke? No chocolate facial for me.
38:36
Or no Diet Coke? And no Coca-Cola.
38:39
Yes. Oh, wow. Not for me. And some of these results are temporary, too.
38:43
I think people think that, oh, I'm going to put, like, some type of serum or
38:46
peptide on my face and it's going to be long-lasting.
38:49
And a lot of times it doesn't. One of my friends that has gone under the knife,
38:54
we'll call her Diva Nat or Diva Natalie.
38:57
And she has done a lot of different plastic surgeries. Well,
39:00
she says plastic surgery is the way to go because it's the only thing that's permanent.
39:04
You know what they said? Plastic surgery is a lot cheaper than therapy.
39:10
Well, I did the therapy too. You know me, I'm doing the work.
39:13
Yeah, you do all the work. All these modalities, they're more like Band-Aids.
39:17
They're not permanent fixes. Everything from the Botox to the retinols to the
39:22
old therapy, the laser therapy, all that stuff is kind of a band-aid.
39:25
Now, I do think that lasers have their place because it's a pigment thing, too, like the IPL.
39:30
But there's a lot of these things that they just won't work for us. Oh, wow.
39:34
Yeah. So, like, microneedling, the Morpheus 8 is there to tighten.
39:38
It's more expensive. So, the Morpheus 8, I think, is like $1,000 a treatment.
39:42
Mm-hmm. And you have downtime, and it swells up, and it's red,
39:46
and you get these little holes in your skin for a little bit.
39:48
And you can get infections from it.
39:49
I think that the best way to go is to really work on your hormones.
39:54
Yeah, from inside out. From inside out. Make sure you're taking collagen internally.
39:59
Make sure you're hydrated with the water that we had talked about.
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And get lots of sleep and decrease your stress.
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I think that's the main thing. That's the number one. That's your foundation,
40:09
right? Right, foundation.
40:10
So if you think about that's the stuff, the minimal stuff you have to do.
40:13
And here's the thing. A lot of times we say this for women, but men need to
40:17
do it too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think so.
40:18
I can't tell you how many times I see a man and they are so wrinkly.
40:24
Because they don't worry about themselves like that. They don't take care of
40:26
themselves and they look so old.
40:30
And I'm sorry, but it's a turn off. Oh, yeah, definitely.
40:33
I think men need to start taking care of their skin. Or they get like really
40:36
big pores on their nose. Have you seen that? Or they never get a facial. That drives me nuts.
40:41
I'm like, dude, go get a facial. Yeah. Take care of your skin. Clean your skin.
40:45
Moisturize your skin. Do some basic stuff. Now, I'm not trying to emasculate
40:49
men. I really am not. Yeah.
40:51
But your skin age is just like ours. Right. But some men think if they do stuff
40:56
like that, they're not real men. No, you're still a real man. Yeah.
40:59
That's what I say. You can get a facial. You can get a pedicure.
41:01
Just don't paint your nails a color.
41:03
Right. There's things you can do as a man that still make you a man.
41:06
Mm-hmm. It's part of self-care, too.
41:09
Right. Clean your black head around your nose. Oh, yeah. That's normal.
41:13
That's normal. Yeah. Yeah. So
41:14
I would say a man probably needs to get a facial at least once a quarter.
41:17
At least? And at least a pedicure once a month. Oh, pedicure is a month.
41:20
Because men, your feet are terrible. Oh, my God, yes.
41:23
Or they get like fungus on their toes. Oh, that gross me out.
41:26
I see so many men taking pictures on Facebook sticking their feet...
41:30
On Facebook I'm like dude they like oh look I broke a
41:32
toe I'm like oh no you've got fungus all over your nails isn't that
41:36
gross you know that's contagious yeah all in
41:39
the men in their 40s 50s and 60s and up that it grows so that's the thing is
41:45
there's natural ways to fix that too I there's like an apple cider vinegar remedy
41:48
for that and there's different remedies but you got to take care of yourself
41:53
yeah go get a pedicure and here's the thing I think ladies we have to help them. Oh, yes.
41:58
That is a must. We have to help them because they don't know.
42:02
No, they don't know. And it's okay. We may not know our way around working on
42:06
a car. That is true. But they help us, right?
42:09
So we can help them. And you don't have to force it, but say,
42:13
honey, let's go get a facial together.
42:15
Yeah. And you can go at the same time. Or, you know, I know men love massages.
42:19
Men are all okay with massages. Although I will say
42:22
that I've dated some guys that won't let a man touch
42:25
them for a massage they have to be massaged by a woman is
42:28
it really yeah it's very common yeah i think so too
42:31
yeah now then think of it yeah you should take a man
42:34
and say let's go get a facial and it's good for men and
42:36
it's going to be a different type of facial yeah it's usually less anti-aging
42:41
it's more deep cleansing and hydrating because men don't hydrate their skin
42:45
no they don't and this will help i mean if a guy could go monthly i don't think
42:49
a lot of men will But if you could get them to go once a quarter and help their skin, it's helpful.
42:55
And, you know, a lot of men do develop skin cancer on their faces.
42:58
Yes, they do. Sometimes they have right in their forehead. Actually,
43:01
one of my friends actually is suffering with that right now.
43:03
So a lot of times these facials, people that do facials, they're not going to
43:07
diagnose, but they could point you, hey, you need to go see a dermatologist about this.
43:11
Yeah, yeah, they know. There's different things you can do as far as facials, et cetera, for men.
43:16
And I think it's so very, very important that men start to take care of themselves,
43:20
especially if they want to date women like us. Yeah.
43:24
We're high value women. We take care of ourselves. That's right. And why not them?
43:28
You know, the funny thing is, is since we were on the dating thing,
43:32
men have always thought, well, if I just make money, that's what I provide for
43:37
a woman. But things have changed.
43:39
Oh, no. And women are looking at men.
43:42
You know, men look at women as they need to be pretty. We're supposed to look like they're jewelry.
43:47
Right. Like we're supposed to look good. So it makes them look good,
43:50
if you will. Yeah. You know, the old saying.
43:52
First impression the first impression yes however it's
43:56
becoming more and more that men are there to make us look good too
43:59
if you have a man that looks like crap and he doesn't
44:02
take care of himself and his skin is saggy he's
44:05
doesn't i mean men even are drying their hair now right so
44:08
yes if you take care of yourself you're much
44:11
more likely to get a high value woman oh yeah although
44:14
i love salt and pepper hair though oh do you yes you
44:17
know i just like it when a man takes care of his skin i think so too
44:20
i i do not i think so i know so i
44:22
don't like it when a man is slammy like you know i like
44:25
wet skin yeah i can look all that dirty yeah well or they sweat and their hands
44:31
sweat too much i don't like the clammy skin but i also don't like the super
44:34
dry skin that men get yeah so the massages are great and the thing is is if
44:40
your guy doesn't want to go to a spot that's okay.
44:43
They can all you can also do it at home with them yeah now i don't know if i
44:47
would be extracting my boyfriend or husband's pores, but you can do like,
44:53
you can do help him massage his body, his skin, help him use some face cream,
44:57
different types of retinols, maybe vitamin C. Yeah.
45:00
Get him on a skincare regimen. There's a lot of new products out there for men
45:04
because men are starting to take care of themselves. Yeah, that's true.
45:07
And they need to. They need to. They need to, especially since a lot of men
45:12
are realizing that I want a woman that also makes money.
45:15
Yeah. I want a woman that is a true partner.
45:19
Uh-huh. Then, men, you need to show up as a true partner. Right.
45:23
So I think if you work them together, you're going to end up being like a very powerful couple.
45:27
You could. And one of the things I keep telling people, before you start that,
45:31
would you date you? You know what?
45:34
You had the point there. Would you date you? Some people say,
45:38
I want a perfect body and I want somebody to be smart and wealthy.
45:41
Well, the question is, would you date you? Are you in a good enough shape?
45:46
Right. Does your skin look good? Does your face look good? Does your hair look good?
45:51
Does your personality good? I mean, you can go down the list.
45:54
Yeah. But would you date you? And if your skin is saggy all over your face,
45:59
it's not going to be as attractive. And if you're looking to attract a really
46:02
high quality man, you're going to have to work on your face.
46:06
Yes. I agree. People don't realize that you have to make yourself as beautiful
46:12
as you can because men are very visual.
46:15
Oh, yeah, for sure. And women are becoming more visual.
46:18
And women like to have eye candy on their arms as much as men like to have eye candy on theirs.
46:24
We all are. We do. So if you have a man that's out of shape or a man that doesn't
46:29
take care of his skin or doesn't want to get his hair colored or whatever and
46:33
doesn't work on himself, it's very unattractive. No, yeah. I don't like that.
46:37
And so people are growing.
46:39
I mean, we're just growing and expanding into new areas with this.
46:42
I think this is new generation.
46:45
It's new. It's been probably in the last 30 years, though. It's not that new. Like, I'll go to a spa.
46:51
There'll be men in the waiting room waiting to get facials. I do go to pedicures.
46:55
I've taken both my kids. They're men. They're boys. They're boys.
46:59
For pedicures, and they love them. Yeah. And men love pedicures,
47:02
ladies. If you want to give your...
47:04
Boyfriend or husband gift give
47:08
them a pedicure yeah now have them go when it's not
47:11
very crowded because i will say when it's crowded it's all
47:14
women jibber-jabbering getting drinking a glass of champagne or drinking a glass
47:19
of tea or whatever take them in the morning when it's slower but go with them
47:22
do couples pedicures and they will learn to love it it will help them now if
47:27
they do have toe fungus have them get that treated first yes but you should
47:31
help them with you know their their crow's lines.
47:34
I mean, I can't tell, or crow's feet. I can't tell you how many men have terrible
47:38
crow's feet and they do nothing to their skin.
47:40
That just gross me out. Oh, men do love those masks, those snail masks.
47:44
Have you tried one with your husband? Oh, my boy loves getting their facial.
47:48
Does he? They go regularly to get their black hair around their nose. Oh, they have to.
47:54
Yeah, they go regularly. Yeah, like sometimes Friday night I put them on, they love it.
47:58
They do. Because it just felt good, those nails. It does. It's cold right out from the refrigerator.
48:04
It makes you feel really good. It does. Well, and here's the other thing.
48:08
I mean, your nose looks flawless. You don't look like you have any blackheads at all.
48:12
Because they do it every month. Yeah. Yeah. My whole family,
48:15
we like light up. She does extraction.
48:17
So the extractions, basically what they do is they take out any clogged pores
48:20
or blackheads or whiteheads.
48:22
And I don't know why. It's always happened around your nose,
48:24
you know? Well, it's the T-zone, right? So it's your forehead,
48:27
your nose, and your chin.
48:29
It's called the T-zone. That's where you produce the most oil.
48:32
So that's where those pores tend to get clogged.
48:34
I don't know the scientific reason behind it, but that's the reason.
48:38
That's the areas. Your forehead, your nose, and your chin.
48:41
I make them take care of their own feet and their own hands.
48:43
But for the blackhead, the stretch and the facial, they go every month.
48:47
You know, and you could give your partner a pedicure.
48:50
I mean, they have those foot baths. Yeah, that's true. I just don't want to
48:53
mess with my partner's feet. I'm not that into it.
48:55
No, I don't like that. I would say it's something that should have to definitely be done.
48:59
I know a lot of people are working on their jawline, too. Have you seen those
49:02
V-slimming shaped things that hold it up? I saw that. You know,
49:05
but a sling and hold to your ear.
49:06
Yeah, I don't know if those work or not. I have seen a lot of facial structures
49:10
for that as well. Should we try? We should.
49:13
We should take the picture before and try it for a month. You know what we should
49:15
do is we should do it for a month before our cruise. Yeah.
49:18
For the next month, we should do that, and then we'll take a picture,
49:20
and then we'll show everybody what it looked like.
49:21
We should start now, take the before pictures. We should. And then by the time
49:25
we go on the cruise, we take the before. We will do that, and we'll post it on our website.
49:28
Right. Yeah. I'm going to try. Okay. So if you ever want to go to our website,
49:32
it's thedivadetails.com. Mm-hmm.
49:35
And you've got to use the word The Diva Details.
49:38
Right. And then we also have all the podcasts there. So if you want to catch
49:41
up on any past episodes, you can do that there as well. Mm-hmm.
49:46
Yeah, we should totally do that. So Botox, though, you know what I've heard
49:50
it's really good for now, is jaw clenching.
49:53
So if you grind your teeth at night, they're doing Botox injections to make
49:57
so you don't grind your teeth. It's actually helping your teeth.
50:00
You know what? I have to wear mouth guard because I grind my teeth.
50:04
Well, have you tried Botox in your jaws?
50:06
This is the first time I heard. Yeah, I'll get you the contact information for a nurse that does it.
50:11
They do injections of Botox in their jaws. I know my cousin,
50:14
she had migraines, so she get her right in her temple. They do it for migraines as well, yeah.
50:18
So there's uses for Botox. Yeah, not just for the medical uses.
50:21
Medical uses, not just, you know, cosmetic uses.
50:25
So, you know, the other thing is I really have dry eyes, and I know Botox is
50:30
one of the things. It can cause more dry eyes.
50:32
Oh, really? Yeah. Now, you were saying that people do it, like,
50:35
for lunch. I don't know if I would do that.
50:37
They have lunchtime Botox, you know. I really think you need to go to somebody that's good, though.
50:41
Yeah, I know. So you know what happens is they inject the needle into the muscle,
50:46
and it actually kills that part of the muscle.
50:49
So if you do Botox too much, you can get Botox face where nothing moves.
50:53
Yeah, they freeze it, like, freeze it, your forehead. I'm not into that.
50:58
I made my lady put numb medicine all over where she's going to inject it. I'm just not into that.
51:03
The fillers, so here's the places they're doing fillers now. In your lips.
51:08
Oh, that's just so painful. I have heard that that's out of style. the big fat.
51:13
The big fat lips are now out of style. The big booty butts are coming out of style as well.
51:18
So if you got a BBL, it's not as popular anymore.
51:22
People are trying to slim down their butts instead of make them bigger now.
51:24
Is it really? They still want the curve to it, but they don't want the width.
51:28
You have to do a lot of squat. Yeah, so do a lot of exercises.
51:31
So, you know, it's funny that some of these things that people did, they can't reverse.
51:36
I was going to ask, when they inject the filler on their lips,
51:39
can they reverse it? Well, the thing with the filler is your body starts to
51:43
break it down. It's not a permanent thing.
51:45
So if you do have lip fillers, over time, it will go away.
51:49
It usually only lasts about 6 to 18 months anyway.
51:53
You just stop doing it and it fades away. Yeah, it fades away.
51:56
And then you have to worry about once it fades away, you still have less fat
51:59
there because your body overcompensates.
52:02
So people get in their cheeks and then they stop doing the filler and then they look like a skeleton.
52:07
So be careful with some of these modalities because you're going to get them
52:10
done and then you're going to think, oh, I got this modality done,
52:13
so I should be okay. But no.
52:15
And people do it under their eyes and then they get like big,
52:18
after they stop doing the fillers, then they have like these really big indentations
52:22
under their eyes. Yeah, because you already stretch your skin.
52:25
You have to keep doing it. You do. And it kind of pushes your fat to the side,
52:30
too. So then it mushes your fat down.
52:33
So just be careful. A lot of these things, people think, oh,
52:37
it's non-invasive. It's just, you know, over-the-counter or it's temporary.
52:40
Some of these things aren't temporary. They're not temporary.
52:43
And if you do Botox, it can cause permanent changes to your face.
52:47
I know. They said...
52:48
So practically, like, even like you look like you raised your eyebrow,
52:52
you feel like you raised your eyebrow, but it doesn't look like you do because it frees it.
52:56
Well, there's people that don't just do fillers. There's people that actually
52:59
take fat as well and inject it into their face.
53:01
That's a more permanent. And they take it out of fatty places like your butt.
53:06
So then you're an ass face.
53:11
But people do. I hope it's your own fat. It's your own fat. Yeah.
53:16
Yeah. Otherwise, you could go through injection on your fat. too because it's
53:19
got chemical well anyway so but yeah
53:22
and then you can also do like calcium fillers too people do
53:25
that so fillers are a big thing I think
53:28
the fat transfer is probably the best the fat transfer fat transfer if I was
53:32
going to do a filler that's what I would do is I would do a fat transfer because
53:35
then it's your own stuff and it's not chemicals you know what I mean mm-hmm
53:40
he wonder they but you know how at the clinic they that when you do go your
53:45
tummy types and stuff. What do they do with all those fat?
53:47
When do they turn to be all this? Yeah, you can take the fat. Listen to this.
53:51
And I know we're not talking about body right now, but just to give you an idea,
53:55
you can take the fat, you can put it in your face.
53:57
You can take the fat, you can put it in your breast.
54:00
Wow. Instead of moving the nipple and doing a breast implant.
54:07
I mean, you can still move the nipple and do a breast lift, but you can actually
54:11
have the, it'll take you up a cup size. Oh, wow. I've actually done the research.
54:15
But they said the big boobs and stuff is... Big boobs are out as well.
54:19
So the whole fake Barbie doll over, you know, obnoxious areas are out.
54:26
Yeah. You know what's the most attractive looking?
54:30
Like you're nice and fit. Look, you're healthy. That is what is now in style. Yeah.
54:35
So fit, nice abs, not too big of arms, not too small, but you defined arms,
54:40
defined abs, to find legs and butt is now the new style. I think that's...
54:45
Yeah. Well, it's I think that's always been hot. They say it's in style,
54:49
but I think it's always been hot.
54:50
Yeah. So and it's for women and for men. You just look very healthy.
54:54
You look very healthy. It's like, I don't know, a swimmer's body is a good example
54:58
or a fitness or a fitness competitor.
55:02
Someone that lifts weights and doesn't go overboard. It's a nice, healthy look.
55:07
Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. And I think, again, you have to lift weights.
55:10
Yeah, so there's side effects with everything.
55:14
Even side effects with lifting heavy weights. Yeah, there's side effects with
55:17
lifting heavy weights too.
55:18
But there's side effects with everything you can do on your face.
55:21
And like you can get swelling, bruising for most of this stuff.
55:24
Redness, all of these things can cause inflammation. It can mess with your eyes too. Oh, wow.
55:29
So you have to understand that a lot of these treatments that people are doing
55:32
can have temporary results, can have permanent results, and can have lots of side effects.
55:37
And when you do them, you have to take that into consideration.
55:40
Yeah, definitely. Going forward, if you're going to make a decision on doing
55:44
a treatment, you really need to do your research up front. Read a lot of research.
55:49
Get your, yeah, get your research done. So, for instance, even sunscreen can
55:53
cause allergic reactions.
55:55
Oh, yeah, I know for sure because it happened to me, actually.
55:58
Did it? Yeah, the sunscreen.
56:00
I get, like, red patches everywhere. I was like, what is this?
56:03
This is, like, in Mexico, Kabul.
56:05
Yeah. So I thought because of sunscreen that I buy from the hotel.
56:09
Well, and some sunscreens are bad for the ocean, too.
56:11
Like, I know if you go to, like, Mexico and Hawaii, some places,
56:14
they don't allow certain types of sunscreens in because the chemicals are bothering the reefs.
56:19
And I'm like, well, if it's affecting the reef, how is it affecting my internal organs?
56:22
Yeah, I get, like, red patches everywhere.
56:25
Yeah. So you have to be careful with that, too. Anything you put on your body,
56:30
you can have a lurch reaction to.
56:31
Anything you put in your body, you can have an lurch reaction to.
56:34
For sure, you have to look at it. You do have to look at it.
56:37
You have to make sure that you do what's best for you.
56:39
But hopefully, I mean, this has kind of been our podcast related to non-invasive
56:44
and minimally invasive stuff.
56:46
We'll cover plastic surgery in the future as well, as well as some body treatments.
56:50
Yes. But at least we kind of get an idea of things that people are doing.
56:54
The goal, I think, is to stay looking younger, but do it in a healthy way.
57:00
Right. And if you can do that, you're benefiting yourself. And I do think men need to do more of it.
57:07
I think that women need to do more of it. Because I think we're going to live
57:10
longer, too. You have to live longer in a healthy way and look good.
57:14
Exactly. So it starts with the inside. You work your way out.
57:17
And then you can do the modalities as needed.
57:19
Yeah. And remember, it takes some time for even the non-invasive stuff to show.
57:26
So, like, for instance, if you do Morpheus 8, you're not even seeing results
57:29
for like four to eight weeks.
57:31
Well, both times it takes two weeks to set in. So, none of these things are magic pills. No.
57:37
You don't see these things happen overnight.
57:40
Just have to be consistent if you start to do anything. You need to be consistent
57:43
and you need to be patient.
57:46
Patience is key with this because you're not going to have an immediate result
57:51
No, it's not that nothing happened overnight Nothing happens overnight So,
57:55
yeah Well, that's all I got What about you? Do you want to talk about anything else, DivaCat?
58:00
I think that's all I got. We cover Botox. That's all I know.
58:03
Yes, Diva Cat loves her Botox.
58:05
I think she's mentioned it on almost every podcast since we started.
58:10
I do. She loves her Botox. Diva Mia hates Botox. Right. We have two opposite ways.
58:18
That's why we do so well on our podcast, because we're two opposites of the same coin.
58:23
Right. But we have the same goal. We do. The same goal, and I can tell you the natural way.
58:28
Yeah, I could tell you the chemical way. Yeah. Although not chemical peel, though.
58:32
I have bad experience with chemicals. Well, and just because you're good with
58:35
some chemicals doesn't mean you can handle all. That's true.
58:39
And I think a lot of the stuff people put on their skin, I mean,
58:42
besides the chemical peels, can also cause problems, too.
58:45
So you have to be careful with just, like, different types of lotions, et cetera. That's true.
58:48
That is so true. And I recommend you get stuff that doesn't have paraffins in it, right? Mm-hmm.
58:55
Natural way. Natural way. Mm-hmm. Try to make sure you do stuff that's not cancerous
58:59
and try to use things that will help your skin, not destroy your skin.
59:04
Yes. And hydrate, hydrate. Lots of water. Lots of water.
59:08
Well, this is Diva Mia. And this is Diva Cat. We hope you have a wonderful week.
59:13
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