Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Driving Efficiency, Culture, and Regional Growth at Connecticut Children's with James E. Moore
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- 0:00Welcome to Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Chris Sosa,
- 0:02your host, and I'm thrilled to be joined
- 0:04today by doctor James Moore. He is president
- 0:06of the Connecticut Children's Specialty Group and the
- 0:08system chief medical officer and chief clinical network
- 0:11development officer for Connecticut Children's.
- 0:13Jim, thank you for joining us today. Hi,
- 0:15Chris. I appreciate the opportunity.
- 0:18As as you mentioned,
- 0:20I'm doctor Jim Moore.
- 0:22I also, in addition to the system chief
- 0:25medical officer,
- 0:27and president of our Connecticut Children's Specialty Group.
- 0:30I'm also a practicing
- 0:32newborn intensive care doctor or neonatologist
- 0:35here at our level four,
- 0:37NICU here in Hartford at Connecticut Children's.
- 0:40Perfect, Tim. Thanks you for giving us a
- 0:42little bit of overview of what your career
- 0:44entails.
- 0:45Today, we've got you on the podcast to
- 0:47discuss any number of things going on at
- 0:49Connecticut Children's. Clearly, things have been busy over
- 0:51there, which is great.
- 0:53So let's start with this. Let's look back
- 0:54at 2025,
- 0:56and that is simply what would you say
- 0:57is the most important initiative or initiatives
- 1:00that you led in the last year? Just
- 1:02take us through how they evolved and the
- 1:03results of them.
- 1:05Sure. If you don't mind, I might like
- 1:07to even back up just because I'm sure
- 1:10some of the listeners might not know what
- 1:12Connecticut Children's is, and if I could just
- 1:14take a moment to just maybe
- 1:17give a highlighted,
- 1:19view of that.
- 1:20We are,
- 1:22the only
- 1:23independent,
- 1:24nonprofit
- 1:26health system in Connecticut and only one of
- 1:29two in New England
- 1:30that's actually a 100%
- 1:32dedicated to
- 1:34pediatric care. We are a freestanding
- 1:38children's hospital located here in Hartford, but we're
- 1:40also
- 1:42a health system,
- 1:43that actually
- 1:45has,
- 1:46facilities and services in three different states in
- 1:49Connecticut,
- 1:51Massachusetts,
- 1:52and New York.
- 1:54As,
- 1:55Chris,
- 1:56mentioned to you earlier, we actually just opened
- 1:58up a brand new
- 2:00190,000
- 2:01square foot tower this past December.
- 2:05We now have about 215
- 2:07beds in our primary facility.
- 2:10And in addition to that, we partner with
- 2:13three adult hospital systems,
- 2:15across
- 2:16the two states, in Connecticut and New York,
- 2:20and provide care to 15 different hospitals other
- 2:23than that.
- 2:24Our 30 specialty and primary care centers are
- 2:26located
- 2:28in Connecticut, Massachusetts,
- 2:30and New York,
- 2:31and we have about 570
- 2:33specialists. We're an academic training center for Yukon.
- 2:38We have students, residents, and fellows. We're also
- 2:40involved in research
- 2:42and innovation initiatives. So,
- 2:45a lot of times, I think people just
- 2:46assume we're,
- 2:48freestanding children's hospital in Downtown Hartford, but we're
- 2:51actually much more regionalized.
- 2:54Wonderful. Jim, thank you for clarifying all of
- 2:56that. I'm glad you got a chance to
- 2:57let us know
- 2:58more about what Connecticut's
- 3:00Connecticut Children's is all about and all the
- 3:02affiliations
- 3:03and all the work that you and your
- 3:05compatriots do over there. So, yes,
- 3:09thank you for taking us through that. Let's
- 3:11look at at 2025.
- 3:13So you have a lot going on.
- 3:16What would you say is the most important
- 3:17initiative that you led?
- 3:19Just take us through everything about it, you
- 3:21know, whether it's how it started,
- 3:23what the results were, and anything else you
- 3:25find important in this moment.
- 3:27I appreciate that. And I think, you know,
- 3:29as we look at,
- 3:31health care in general, the economics are
- 3:34more challenging than ever and our margins are
- 3:37thinner. So it really puts pressure on us
- 3:40to perform
- 3:41at the highest level.
- 3:43I'd like to actually maybe touch on two
- 3:45different initiatives.
- 3:47I'll I'll try to keep them not,
- 3:51not going on for too long but Hey.
- 3:53Don't worry about it. One of the the
- 3:54first challenges we we were facing
- 3:58was,
- 3:59capacity and
- 4:00you know, we definitely had an unmet need
- 4:04in the market.
- 4:05We had more patients that needed to come
- 4:07in.
- 4:09But I think like a lot of organizations,
- 4:11we didn't have a ton of capital to
- 4:13just add bricks and mortar.
- 4:16So then we had to turn around and
- 4:18say, alright. How do we accomplish this? And
- 4:20a lot of this kinda fell on efficiency.
- 4:22So we've
- 4:23really needed to be able to track our
- 4:26space utilization especially around managing
- 4:29capacity,
- 4:31in our busiest locations especially.
- 4:34You know, we
- 4:36really kinda tackle that in multiple different ways.
- 4:39We needed to be precise and rigorous in
- 4:42the management of that utilization. I think the
- 4:45old school
- 4:46approach is is that, well, these rooms are
- 4:50ENT rooms, and these rooms
- 4:52are general care rooms. We had to take
- 4:54the approach that they're all kind of touchdown
- 4:57rooms and multiple different areas can utilize them.
- 5:02To accomplish that, we actually created dashboards to
- 5:05look at room utilizations
- 5:07by each of the divisions that occupied those
- 5:09clinics
- 5:10and then rearrange space and utilization to proactively
- 5:14look at
- 5:15issues we knew were coming up. I think
- 5:17a lot of times we all know clinicians
- 5:20have to spend time in the hospital and
- 5:22when they're in the hospital they're not in
- 5:24clinic.
- 5:25And
- 5:26as much as I think many of us
- 5:28don't feel we get enough vacation, we do
- 5:30take vacation and they're not in the clinic
- 5:33at that time.
- 5:34We wanted to be able to proactively
- 5:36use that space. And a lot of those
- 5:38instances were known
- 5:40far enough ahead that we could actually repurpose
- 5:43the space
- 5:44and get more patients in in other areas.
- 5:48That actually was highly successful. We actually increased
- 5:51volume
- 5:52by about 14%
- 5:54in five of our key specialties.
- 5:56We've also been developing plans for extended hours,
- 6:01but that's been challenging in its own right
- 6:04because
- 6:05getting enough staff even for current operations, let
- 6:08alone expanding
- 6:09hours,
- 6:11has been a bit of a challenge.
- 6:13The second one, which I won't go into
- 6:15great detail, which is
- 6:18essentially the same approach, but, you know, now
- 6:20turning our sites onto the OR and especially
- 6:23ambulatory
- 6:24surgery center
- 6:25was
- 6:26ways to get OR case volumes that were
- 6:29actually backing up in several specialties because they
- 6:31needed more time
- 6:33to look at a efficiency and maybe being
- 6:35able to leverage
- 6:37the staff in a way that could extend
- 6:39the sessions without
- 6:41needing a lot of extra FTEs,
- 6:45to really address some of those backlogs. In
- 6:47our instance, that was in urology and NT,
- 6:51and,
- 6:52we also saw similar gains, especially in urology,
- 6:56that we saw on the outpatient side.
- 6:59Tim, thank you for taking us through everything
- 7:01that's
- 7:02Connected Children's is working on. Clearly, it's all
- 7:05worthwhile, and I'm glad to hear that you've
- 7:08been able to improve your your use volume,
- 7:11get more cases
- 7:13addressed.
- 7:14Let's look ahead now at 2026.
- 7:17So
- 7:18we're a little bit into 2026, but only
- 7:20a little bit. So
- 7:22in addition to everything that Connected Children's has
- 7:25accomplished, you mentioned, the new tower,
- 7:28Huge things going on there. So when you
- 7:30look at the next year and maybe a
- 7:32little bit farther than that, what'd you say
- 7:35are your biggest priorities and any headwinds you've
- 7:37got going on? And and on the same
- 7:40plane, any tailwinds that you're looking at?
- 7:43Well, I mean, I think that's a a
- 7:45great question. I think we're all really kinda
- 7:47focusing on that right now.
- 7:50We also have a new CEO and a
- 7:52new chair of pediatrics, and we're we're also
- 7:55in the midst of of, I think, really
- 7:58trying to address
- 8:00a lot of things that are changing
- 8:01rapidly.
- 8:02And I think many of us can really,
- 8:07understand the pain point
- 8:09of, you know, the issues around,
- 8:12Medicaid rate
- 8:14reforms and policy changes that have been going
- 8:17into
- 8:18effect.
- 8:19You know, we we need to pay attention
- 8:22to that because
- 8:23that actually is a large driver for for
- 8:27pediatric hospitals. We have a very high proportion
- 8:30of
- 8:31Medicaid reimbursement
- 8:32and that ends up leaving our margins very
- 8:36thin,
- 8:37with the kind of proposed federal and state
- 8:39changes.
- 8:40This is gonna make that even more
- 8:43challenging. So, you know,
- 8:44to me, I think we've
- 8:46got issues in the immediate sense, maybe in
- 8:49the next year, but probably looking long term
- 8:52as well.
- 8:54And so, I mean, we obviously need to
- 8:57work on our efficiencies. We talked a little
- 8:59bit about that already,
- 9:01trying to reduce
- 9:03cost by maybe putting some of the services
- 9:05as outpatient rather than inpatient.
- 9:09We also need to get reimbursed appropriately for
- 9:11the work that we're doing. This means paying
- 9:13attention to coding and billing, reducing denied claims,
- 9:18especially for things that are in our control,
- 9:21and appropriately capturing
- 9:23revenue.
- 9:24But I think, realistically,
- 9:27if we only take the approach to that,
- 9:30we're only going to maybe get a a
- 9:32short term benefit. You know, that traditional approach
- 9:35of of,
- 9:36you know, getting more bed days, more hospital
- 9:39volume,
- 9:40especially in today's climate of, you know, accelerating
- 9:43costs, decreasing reimbursements
- 9:46is not gonna be financially sustained.
- 9:49We actually have to broaden our revenue streams.
- 9:52You know, I think if we
- 9:55look to
- 9:56what our services provided traditionally,
- 10:00sick care alone actually touched maybe ten percent
- 10:03of the total pediatric population. We need to
- 10:05be thinking much more
- 10:07broadly. And whether that is, you know, through
- 10:11mechanisms of partnering with primary and preventative care,
- 10:15partnering with other health systems to put care
- 10:18closer to home,
- 10:19maybe home care, getting kids out of the
- 10:21hospital and and into
- 10:24a lower cost type of situation.
- 10:27These
- 10:28are ways that where you've got to start
- 10:30thinking about
- 10:32both improving more lives,
- 10:35but also doing it in a way that
- 10:37is going to be sustainable and potentially new
- 10:40revenue streams.
- 10:42You know I think the that'll have the
- 10:45greatest long term impact.
- 10:48You know, I think one of the ways
- 10:49that can be done, and that varies kind
- 10:52of state to state is, you know, value
- 10:54based care. You know, that in and of
- 10:57itself
- 10:57actually
- 10:58really helps to align reimbursement with what you're
- 11:01really trying to do long term,
- 11:04but it also rewards
- 11:05outcomes and promotes quality. So I think we've
- 11:08gotta look at new ways to actually provide
- 11:11the services,
- 11:13that improve children's health.
- 11:15We need to actually,
- 11:17improve quality and outcomes.
- 11:20We need to touch more lives.
- 11:22But to be able to sustain ourselves, there
- 11:24may need to be new
- 11:26ways to get paid for whether we're doing
- 11:29school based care or others.
- 11:31And probably looking at ways for innovation and
- 11:34development of new technologies because I think the
- 11:37bed reimbursement in the hospital model is not
- 11:40going to be the way of the future.
- 11:43I think a lot of your colleagues in
- 11:45health care leadership would absolutely agree with you,
- 11:47Jim. And I'll give you the I do
- 11:48wanna give you a chance to expand on,
- 11:51some of those growth opportunities that Connected Children's
- 11:53has in a minute.
- 11:55In for the meantime, though, I do wanna
- 11:58ask you, what do you think is the
- 11:59hardest thing you're going to have to do
- 12:01in this coming year? Doesn't mean you're not
- 12:03looking forward to doing it. Just means you
- 12:05might need a little bit different level of
- 12:07focus or community focus to get that goal,
- 12:11whatever that is, accomplished.
- 12:13Chris, I think that is is going to
- 12:15be critical, and I think the way I'll
- 12:18answer that may be slightly,
- 12:21different than many people might assume. I I
- 12:24think
- 12:25the problem we're all facing
- 12:27is really
- 12:29that if
- 12:30you are looking at the landscape right now,
- 12:32you've got workforce shortages, you got labor costs
- 12:36that are all contributing to this.
- 12:39We're all experiencing this whether it's pediatric specialists,
- 12:42nurses,
- 12:44allied health professionals.
- 12:46This is all really
- 12:48producing both challenges getting folks in to provide
- 12:52the services, and it unfortunately is impacting
- 12:55higher labor costs.
- 12:58You know, if you try to just say,
- 13:00well, we'll go out and get new ones
- 13:02or or not address,
- 13:05turnover,
- 13:06recruiting and retaining specialized care is really actually
- 13:10quite expensive.
- 13:12And so we're focusing on kinda the the
- 13:16other side, which is to once you've got
- 13:19folks in the door,
- 13:21you wanna make sure they wanna stay. And
- 13:23I think that's really important.
- 13:26We
- 13:27are working, I would say, most diligently right
- 13:30now
- 13:31on our culture work.
- 13:33We call our our work on culture our
- 13:36one team and providing better health through a
- 13:40one team approach.
- 13:42You know, we've had a very strong mission
- 13:44and I think
- 13:45anytime you talk about taking care of sick
- 13:48kids
- 13:49and, you know, being able to
- 13:51be involved with kids and families,
- 13:54it's kinda easier for kid people to get
- 13:58behind
- 13:58that. And,
- 14:00you know, I I think it is gives
- 14:02us a bit of a head start.
- 14:05But what we really wanna strive for
- 14:08is for our our team members to feel
- 14:11like they actually both belong here
- 14:14and that they can succeed here.
- 14:17And that hopefully, they feel they're supportive of
- 14:20each other. You know, there was a great
- 14:23description of kinda that mentality
- 14:25that came from one of our floor team
- 14:28members. And it was like, you know, the
- 14:31way they described that was
- 14:33we want folks to answer the call bell.
- 14:36You know? When you you got that nurse
- 14:38call button on
- 14:40and and, you know, often I've been
- 14:43even with some of my own family in
- 14:44the adult hospital and the bell just rings
- 14:46and rings.
- 14:48And a lot of times, it's because people
- 14:50are short staffed or they're taking care of
- 14:52other families.
- 14:53What we wanna encourage is is that, you
- 14:56know, everybody feels empowered to be able to
- 14:59answer that call bell and take care of
- 15:01that child and take care of that family.
- 15:04And
- 15:05if you can
- 15:07get that kind of feeling,
- 15:09if
- 15:10your team members can feel like they're heard,
- 15:13more importantly that they're valued,
- 15:16and that what they're coming to is not
- 15:18just a job.
- 15:20They're gonna be much more wanting to stay
- 15:23in the organization. They feel they can grow
- 15:25in the organization,
- 15:27and they
- 15:28hopefully will be easier to retain. And it's
- 15:31a lot easier to to manage staffing when
- 15:35you've retained employees than to constantly be looking
- 15:37for new ones.
- 15:39I think we've got that strong culture, but,
- 15:41you know, I I think we can always
- 15:43do more.
- 15:45And then the other thing that we've gotta
- 15:47do is develop new avenues to to help
- 15:50broaden out the the number of potential
- 15:53team members, not just for us, but for
- 15:55everybody. And that probably looks at colleges and
- 15:59even younger, let's say, high schools,
- 16:02to enlarge,
- 16:04the recognition and both understanding and interest in
- 16:07these careers because
- 16:10I think
- 16:11there are folks out there wanting to go
- 16:13into this, but we also need to support
- 16:15the education
- 16:17system because
- 16:18often there are
- 16:20two, five, 10 times more applicants than there
- 16:24are spots available to train them. So we've
- 16:26got multiple different issues,
- 16:28but, you know, we know workforce is expensive.
- 16:32Replacing workforce is even more expensive.
- 16:35Keeping workforce is what we're all trying to
- 16:38do, but we've gotta make the environment
- 16:41where people feel that they've got a real
- 16:43opportunity.
- 16:44And then we've gotta be able to
- 16:46both raise awareness and actually drive folks to
- 16:49wanna be a part of this.
- 16:52That's an excellent description of the landscape that
- 16:54you're dealing with right now, Jim. I do
- 16:56wanna ask just to follow-up.
- 16:58Certainly,
- 17:00every organization
- 17:01like yours wants to build a culture, and
- 17:03I think that a lot of them are
- 17:05succeeding in some way, shape, or form.
- 17:07How do you know, though,
- 17:09beyond just what you're hearing in the hallways
- 17:12of Connecticut Children's,
- 17:14that this culture is succeeding in becoming,
- 17:18more inviting and more
- 17:20sustainable
- 17:21for clinicians and and others who work there?
- 17:24I think that is
- 17:26looking at it through multiple lenses. I mean,
- 17:29we obviously
- 17:31do feedback, We do employee,
- 17:34surveys,
- 17:35during the year as well.
- 17:38But we also get kinda direct, you know,
- 17:41leadership rounding feedback and and things that,
- 17:46our team members are saying are pain
- 17:48points. We've developed,
- 17:50you know, what we call the
- 17:52the red tape,
- 17:54work group. You know, we we have a
- 17:56lot of things that people are like, these
- 17:58are
- 17:59pains in my my my feet that are
- 18:02are I need to get the stone out
- 18:03of my shoes, so to speak.
- 18:05And we actually
- 18:07empower and allow those teams to actually help
- 18:10provide some of those solutions.
- 18:12But we also need to develop
- 18:14the the,
- 18:16you know, our our entire workforce. And whether
- 18:19that's kinda giving them that personal experience when
- 18:21they're onboarded
- 18:23to leadership development during the, you know, course
- 18:27of their career,
- 18:29We also have actually started a pilot
- 18:32for some of our leaders
- 18:35to actually, I think, kinda help model
- 18:38the the culture that we're all trying to
- 18:40achieve,
- 18:41but also to help develop it. And,
- 18:44you know, I hate to use this,
- 18:46my colleagues in HR will probably hate me,
- 18:49but what we're trying to do is avoid
- 18:51HR speak and make it be much more
- 18:54almost grassroots.
- 18:56And, you know, they know what they need
- 18:58best. They know what is most valuable to
- 19:01them. We just need to help support it.
- 19:05That makes total sense. Thank you, Jim.
- 19:07Lastly, I simply wanna ask you, as I
- 19:09alluded to before, what
- 19:11opportunities for growth you think Connecticut Children's needs
- 19:14to capitalize on in the coming year,
- 19:17five years, whatever time period you think is
- 19:20appropriate?
- 19:21I
- 19:22I think that I we're all kinda focusing
- 19:25on this, and,
- 19:26you know, I would almost put it into
- 19:28a couple of buckets.
- 19:30I would say maybe
- 19:31both the primary medical center, the quaternary hospital,
- 19:35and then kind of our more,
- 19:38community and outpatient focus.
- 19:41Internal,
- 19:42you know,
- 19:43we've got to be able to leverage
- 19:46not just our own hospital, but our partner
- 19:49hospitals as well
- 19:51and really focus on being a regional center
- 19:54of excellence and
- 19:56maybe getting those various designations
- 19:58and kind of the things that we do
- 20:01best and that I think
- 20:03are
- 20:04things that will attract people from not just
- 20:07the local area, but across regions and states.
- 20:11I think one of the examples of that
- 20:13is is work that's being done in the
- 20:16new tower right now.
- 20:18We're increasing the offerings of our oncology
- 20:21services
- 20:23and our fetal care center.
- 20:25Within the new tower is,
- 20:27state of the art
- 20:29advanced cellular and gene therapy.
- 20:31This includes,
- 20:33things including bone marrow transplant and CAR T
- 20:37but
- 20:38also includes gene therapy for muscular dystrophy,
- 20:41sickle cell and other types
- 20:43of initiatives.
- 20:45So that is much more than just straight
- 20:47oncology.
- 20:49It is actually a much broader program
- 20:53and that is actually going to draw folks
- 20:55from,
- 20:56March larger region as well.
- 20:59You know, if we
- 21:01look at the other,
- 21:03service that I mentioned inside that new tower,
- 21:06which kinda goes along with our newborn intensive
- 21:09care unit is
- 21:10the fetal care center.
- 21:12This center actually provides care even prior to
- 21:16birth.
- 21:17And because it is a full service,
- 21:21fetal care center,
- 21:22these babies with complex anomalies can actually even
- 21:25begin treatment often surgically,
- 21:29prior to birth.
- 21:31And then obviously once,
- 21:33a patient is born especially if they may
- 21:36not need surgery prior to birth, we have
- 21:38the full surgical suite and subspecialty
- 21:41care
- 21:42services that are available to that mom and
- 21:44to that child,
- 21:46immediately after birth.
- 21:49I think
- 21:50that helps kind of, you know, distinguish us
- 21:53from,
- 21:54you know, many others and,
- 21:57you know, with centers of excellence in rare
- 21:59bone,
- 22:00hematology,
- 22:01oncology, and others,
- 22:03that's really where we're going to focus kind
- 22:05of on the inpatient side.
- 22:08On the outpatient side, we really need to
- 22:10leverage that regional care and the care close
- 22:13to home model.
- 22:15You know, focusing on expanding
- 22:17and maybe strengthening
- 22:19our adult partner locations,
- 22:21but really also on our ambulatory
- 22:24services
- 22:25and locations that are actually outside the main
- 22:28campus.
- 22:29Sometimes actually quite far away.
- 22:32You know, while many of the financial
- 22:34pressures we're up against are not easily
- 22:37fixed,
- 22:38you know, we can actually
- 22:41do our part to provide care at the
- 22:44right
- 22:44location
- 22:46with the right services at the right time
- 22:49and actually hopefully do it in a more
- 22:51cost effective manner. So whether that's providing urgent
- 22:54care,
- 22:55ambulatory surgery,
- 22:57specialty care.
- 22:59More and more care,
- 23:01pediatric especially,
- 23:03is moving more outpatient than inpatient, and we've
- 23:06gotta be where the patients are,
- 23:09but we've gotta do it in a manner
- 23:11that is sustained. And having twenty, thirty different
- 23:15people providing that care is not, you know,
- 23:18financially good sense. We wanna be able to
- 23:22partner with other organizations
- 23:24to be their preferred per pediatric provider. Say
- 23:28that three times fast.
- 23:29And,
- 23:31also be able to, you know, provide that
- 23:34care to the families that we serve
- 23:37now in three states across our region.
- 23:40Jim, thank you so much for everything you've
- 23:42been able to share with us today on
- 23:44the podcast, and we look forward to seeing
- 23:46you at our conferences coming up later this
- 23:48year. And, yeah, we look forward to any
- 23:50time,
- 23:51paths cross.
- 23:53Chris, I really appreciate the opportunity. Thanks so
- 23:55much.