Latest / The OneCry Podcast / #251 - From Pizza Ovens to Prayer Gatherings - How God Prepares us For Future Faith Works.
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- 0:00I stood on that spot, and I just about wept to think of how God changed me in those years
- 0:13and how it led to so many other kinds of miraculous works that I can only attribute to the outpouring
- 0:24of the Spirit.
- 0:25Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
- 0:29The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and
- 0:36reports.
- 0:37Well, welcome to the One Cry Podcast.
- 0:41I'm Bill Ellis, and I am so thrilled to have one of my favorite friends on the face of
- 0:48the earth with us today.
- 0:51You've known Bob Buckey before, and we're here.
- 0:57If you hear some background noise, our One Cry team gets together once a year to do annual
- 1:05planning and evaluation, and thank the Lord for what he's doing.
- 1:10We're in that meeting, and so there's people above us.
- 1:14We're in a bottom floor of a place that we're staying in, and so you may hear some ambient
- 1:20noise.
- 1:22But we just thought we'd capture while we had some of these people, some interviews,
- 1:30and I'm so glad to have you, Bob, I'm telling you.
- 1:34So to introduce you to Bob, Bob, tell us a little bit about yourself.
- 1:38You pastored for a zillion years.
- 1:41You're old, basically.
- 1:44Yeah, I pastored my first church starting in 1979.
- 1:51I hadn't yet graduated from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in Boston, but the following
- 1:57year I did.
- 1:58I spent seven years there, seven years in the greater metropolitan New York area in
- 2:04northern New Jersey.
- 2:05It was a bedroom community of the financial district.
- 2:08Wow.
- 2:09Before, the Evangelical Free Church of America called me out to Minnesota.
- 2:14We didn't know anybody out there, and it was freezing cold, and we didn't want to go, but
- 2:19they called us, and we fell in love with the place.
- 2:21We really loved our time there.
- 2:23And we spent 30 years there in a combination of serving the Evangelical Free Church in
- 2:30like a Henry Blackaby-like position, an office of prayer and spiritual awakening.
- 2:36But then the last 16 years as pastor of Hillside Church, before I left, I'm now pastor emeritus
- 2:45of that wonderful church, and now living in a completely different environment.
- 2:51We're in Beach, Florida.
- 2:53Your wife, Sally, said, let's go warm.
- 2:56And we did.
- 2:57And you did.
- 2:58And all through this pilgrimage, God has given you a great passion for revival and spiritual
- 3:08awakening, a great understanding of that.
- 3:13And God has used you in prayer movements.
- 3:18So this is fascinating.
- 3:22Bob was instrumental in the beginning of the Global Day of Prayer, which happened over
- 3:34a 24-hour period, if I understand.
- 3:37And over 200, the estimates are over, what was it over?
- 3:42200 million participants in 220 nations and territories.
- 3:48Wow.
- 3:49That's most of the world.
- 3:50Most of the world.
- 3:51That people were praying on one day.
- 3:53And then not only were you helping to instigate and produce that, but then for many years
- 4:00helped to produce the broadcast of the National Day of Prayer.
- 4:06That's right.
- 4:07And then your heart has turned to really invest your time with the next generation deeply.
- 4:14And now the last years have been working with the Collegiate Day of Prayer.
- 4:18That's right.
- 4:19And we're seeing the answers to our prayers.
- 4:22Yeah.
- 4:23Isn't that amazing?
- 4:24God is moving.
- 4:25God is pouring out His Spirit.
- 4:26Yeah.
- 4:28When I was a young preacher and I started my postgraduate work, I was wanting to study
- 4:39great preachers.
- 4:40But when I began scratching at the great preachers, they started pointing at the great
- 4:46prayers as the source of their prayer and power.
- 4:52And so I got curious about that and began to take that apart and realized that there
- 5:00was a story there that hadn't been told by everyone.
- 5:03And I needed to tell it.
- 5:05God compelled my heart to tell that story.
- 5:07And we're talking in this series about how revival has, as Kyle Reno says, just run.
- 5:15That's right.
- 5:17You know, how revival has affected us, how it's impacted us for the kingdom.
- 5:22And would you say that's where that began in your heart?
- 5:25Was the study of that?
- 5:27Not just the study of it, the experience of it.
- 5:30Like you, the trajectory of my life was transformed during the Jesus movement in the 1970s.
- 5:38I was a student, started college sort of aimlessly.
- 5:44I was an art major.
- 5:46I wanted to paint.
- 5:48I thought I wanted to paint.
- 5:50And after a couple of years of sort of flailing about, my older brother got an early out from Vietnam.
- 5:59He was fighting in the highlands of Vietnam in the army and he got an early out to come
- 6:05back to school.
- 6:07And I joined him because I always wanted to play football with him at Taylor University
- 6:12in Upland, Indiana.
- 6:14I'd never known the place before.
- 6:16And I went there and the school was just what I needed to reexamine my life.
- 6:24But then the move of God's spirit on that campus as it was moving across the country
- 6:29during the Jesus movement, then transformed me.
- 6:33I'd be happy to tell some stories about that.
- 6:35Yeah, I do.
- 6:36Because we're, you know, we're in the foothills of that same kind of movement.
- 6:41That's right.
- 6:42And these podcasts on real life stories, how all of us, and you should know too, Bob is
- 6:55one of the leaders, was one of the initial founders along with Byron Paulus.
- 7:00I was involved in that and through four other men of OneCry, which has been going now for
- 7:0615 years to try to help stimulate.
- 7:09This podcast came out of that movement.
- 7:12And so tell us practically in Makiese, what happened to you in the Jesus movement?
- 7:23Well, obviously, we heard the stories, right?
- 7:29We heard the story of Asbury College, especially on Christian college campuses.
- 7:36We heard the rumors that Aswin was afoot, right?
- 7:40And Aswin was in the land and he was moving about.
- 7:44And they started to creep onto campus more and more.
- 7:48Well, I got involved with a group of guys who had been radically saved and transformed
- 7:57by the gospel and joined them in a work at a coffeehouse.
- 8:05And of course, coffeehouses were popping up all over the nation.
- 8:10It was called Jacob's Well, and it was in the basement of a commercial building in a
- 8:16nearby city, Hartford City.
- 8:19And I wasn't the founder of that, but I got involved with it.
- 8:24And we saw hundreds of kids come to faith in Christ.
- 8:29And there was a wall in the well, just a blank wall.
- 8:35And they would sign their names as they came to faith.
- 8:38And that whole wall was filled up with names.
- 8:42And I realized that I was in the midst of a move of God that I did not fully comprehend,
- 8:49and yet created a hunger and a desire in me to know more and to give my life to it.
- 8:57There were two examples of God answering my prayers that really wrecked me.
- 9:08One of them, we had decided that the coffeehouse should serve pizza.
- 9:16And I had a little bit of construction background.
- 9:20And there was a room off the side of our main room that would work out with a great kitchen.
- 9:25There was a place for a sink, and we could bring electrical in there.
- 9:31And we put the walls up, and we got an old sink out of some other building and a faucet.
- 9:39And we thought we had enough money for an oven, a pizza oven.
- 9:47And I had ordered these electrical units from an operation up in Michigan.
- 9:55And the guy who was supposed to pick them up and deliver them to us forgot them.
- 10:02Now, we had been working for weeks.
- 10:04The coffeehouse was closed.
- 10:06And we had been advertising on local radio and so on that we were going to be opening Friday night,
- 10:14reopening Friday night, serving pizza.
- 10:17And this was Thursday.
- 10:19And there were no ovens.
- 10:21And we couldn't get it.
- 10:23And then the news came to me in the mail that there was no money in our bank account.
- 10:28We had $60 in our bank account.
- 10:31That also happened a lot during the G20.
- 10:34During the G20.
- 10:37So I went up to my little office, and it was an electrical spool turned over on its side.
- 10:43That was my desk.
- 10:44And I was sitting in a wooden chair next to it.
- 10:47I was really feeling depressed because I thought I was well over my skis.
- 10:53I was out of control.
- 10:55I was going to disappoint a lot of people.
- 10:57I just cried out to God, I don't know what to do.
- 11:01And around that moment, a girl came into the office.
- 11:05She was 12 years old.
- 11:0712, I think.
- 11:09And her name was Suzy.
- 11:11Blonde girl.
- 11:13And she said, Bob, I want to get baptized.
- 11:17And the first thought that went through my mind is, oh, great.
- 11:20I've lost my pizza ovens, and now I have to get wet.
- 11:25That was my thought.
- 11:28We had a practice there that if any of the kids came in, and they had given their lives to Christ,
- 11:35and they wanted to be baptized, we would do it.
- 11:37And there was a pastor nearby that agreed to officiate any of those baptisms.
- 11:44And there was a lake right outside of town.
- 11:46Wow.
- 11:47And so we went out to the lake.
- 11:49We all drove out.
- 11:50There was a bunch of the kids hanging around.
- 11:51We jumped in cars, and we went out to the lake.
- 11:54And we went through this path in the woods, some high grass path, went down to the lake.
- 12:02We did the baptism.
- 12:03Of course, I'm soaking wet.
- 12:04We come up out of the water.
- 12:08And as we're walking through this path, I notice something over to my right in the trees, in the woods.
- 12:18And as I look in this little clearing, and the light is coming through the clearing, and in the center of the clearing is a commercial oven.
- 12:26Oh, my goodness.
- 12:29So I cried out.
- 12:33I said, look.
- 12:37Behold.
- 12:39What prevents me from taking this oven?
- 12:43And so we went into the woods.
- 12:46Wow.
- 12:47And it was like having a 10-year-old car with 20,000 miles on it.
- 12:55Pristine.
- 12:56Pristine.
- 12:57Absolutely pristine.
- 12:58Double south bend commercial oven.
- 13:00Wow.
- 13:01And we started looking around and making inquiry to see, well, this didn't just fall out of the sky.
- 13:09And there was a small camp nearby.
- 13:14And this oven had been in their kitchen.
- 13:16And they didn't know what to do with it.
- 13:18It was taking up so much room.
- 13:19They never used it because it was so big.
- 13:22And so they decided just the day before to move it out into this clearing, to stick it in this clearing, and didn't know what to do with it.
- 13:31Wow.
- 13:32And I said, would you take $60 for it?
- 13:35Which is all we had.
- 13:37Which is all we had.
- 13:39And that afternoon, it was on a truck.
- 13:43Went into the building.
- 13:45We couldn't get it down the stairs and the front door that would fit into the kitchen.
- 13:51But we could go up to the commercial building on the first floor.
- 13:54And they had a back stairway.
- 13:56And we realized if we put it on its side and jumped on it, we could push it.
- 14:01This is college student engineering.
- 14:03It is.
- 14:04We could push it all the way down.
- 14:07Now, this is the culminating miracle.
- 14:14We got it over to the space that we had planned for the electric ovens.
- 14:18But this wasn't electric.
- 14:21It was gas.
- 14:22Gas.
- 14:23And we already had a wall set up.
- 14:26And I got down on my hands and knees and poked a hole in the wall.
- 14:31And sticking out of the cement slab.
- 14:33Was it gas?
- 14:34It was a gas line.
- 14:35Oh, my goodness.
- 14:36The following night, we were cooking pizza.
- 14:39Opening night.
- 14:40Jacob's well.
- 14:42That was the first time in my life, Bill.
- 14:46That God had personally spoken to me in a way that said, I hear you, Bob.
- 14:55And I heard you cry out to me.
- 14:57And in your disappointment, you risked on my behalf, on my name.
- 15:01And you cried out to me and I'm going to answer.
- 15:04Wow.
- 15:05And that was the first of many stories.
- 15:11But the other that affected me as well.
- 15:14And each of these is a story that just changes your life.
- 15:19I was at Taylor during the Watergate crisis.
- 15:25Yeah.
- 15:26And the Lord just laid on my heart, we need to pray for America.
- 15:33And so I went to the president of Taylor, Milo Rettiger, a godly man.
- 15:38And I said, President Rettiger, I want to lead a prayer meeting for the country.
- 15:43And I want to call it a night of prayer for God and our country.
- 15:51Something to that effect.
- 15:53Well, I told him I wanted to do it in the gym.
- 15:57It was Maytag gymnasium, which we also used for chapel.
- 16:02And I wanted to do it all night.
- 16:05I wanted to start right after dinner.
- 16:07I wanted to pray through the night into the morning.
- 16:11And I wanted the whole student body to be invited if they would come.
- 16:18And he paused at that because he thought, okay, girls and guys on the gym floor.
- 16:24Yeah.
- 16:25Through the night.
- 16:27And I said, no, trust me.
- 16:28I said, after we do a joint meeting, I'm going to put girls on one side of the gym
- 16:34and guys on the other side of the gym.
- 16:36We're going to light candles whenever we pray in the night.
- 16:41And when people are sleeping, it's dark, but others will be lighting up the gym with candles.
- 16:49And he reluctantly said, go ahead.
- 16:51Now, I sent out a flyer.
- 16:55I'm not even quite sure how I even got the news out.
- 16:58Just an invitation.
- 17:00This was pre-social media.
- 17:02Pre-social media.
- 17:03Yeah.
- 17:04No texting.
- 17:05None of that.
- 17:08And I remember about 20 minutes before we were to start, and I walked into Maytag gymnasium.
- 17:15There were maybe 10 people in the room.
- 17:19And I felt a little embarrassed that this is all I could muster.
- 17:26I went to a room.
- 17:28It was a door off to the left of the stage, small stage.
- 17:33I got down on my knees.
- 17:35In fact, I think I got down on my face in that small room.
- 17:38And I said, Lord, I don't know what's going to happen tonight.
- 17:42But whatever happens tonight, I give it to you.
- 17:46And please, if there's anybody who is wondering whether they should come tonight to pray for our country, would you draw them by the power of your spirit?
- 17:55Something along those lines.
- 17:57We've all prayed those prayers, right?
- 17:59Haven't we?
- 18:00Even recently, I've prayed such prayers.
- 18:05When I came out at 7 o'clock, I think it was, maybe it was 8 o'clock.
- 18:10There was probably 350 students there sitting on the floor.
- 18:15And I almost wept when I saw it.
- 18:19It was more than I had thought would come.
- 18:24But, of course, less than the student body.
- 18:28And we prayed through the night.
- 18:30We prayed all night.
- 18:31And the guys were really nice.
- 18:34They stayed on one side and the girls stayed on the other.
- 18:37And all through the night, I would wake up and I would see candles lit all throughout.
- 18:42And these young students on their knees before the Lord with their Bibles open, praying and asking God to pour out his spirit upon our land.
- 18:52Now, I could go on with many other stories.
- 18:56But those were two stories that were so personal to me.
- 19:00Because I took risks for God.
- 19:04And in my foolish youth, those risks were taken and God honored those risks.
- 19:11That prayer meeting that I called for at Maytag Gymnasium at Taylor University in 1973, I think it was.
- 19:23I would have no idea that that would lead to me leading some of the largest prayer meetings in the history of the world.
- 19:31And it's stunning to me that I was just at my 50th reunion just a couple of weeks ago, a couple of years ago, I should say.
- 19:43And I stood on that very spot.
- 19:45It's now a worship center.
- 19:49It's not a gym anymore.
- 19:51I stood on that spot and I just about wept to think of how God changed me in those years and how it led to so many other kinds of miraculous works that I can only attribute to the outpouring of his spirit.
- 20:09Wow. Wow.
- 20:11And this is what God does in revival.
- 20:13It does.
- 20:14I mean, this is it's a trail of changed lives one at a time.
- 20:20And you know what's so beautiful?
- 20:22One event at a time.
- 20:23And one event at a time.
- 20:24And, you know, Bob, you and I and OneCry as a whole initiative are just passionately interested in the next generation.
- 20:35Right.
- 20:36Because you have to be.
- 20:38Right. I mean, that's the future.
- 20:41And I think of places where we've been and campuses that we've worked on and working with the collegiate day of prayer now that you're so deeply involved with and OneCry is involved with.
- 20:52And there are thousands of students, tens of thousands of students that are having those experiences.
- 20:58You know, God's doing the same thing.
- 21:02And he's building.
- 21:05I stood at Asbury in three years ago in the balcony.
- 21:11And I was I had been thinking for four, maybe two years about the Generation Z and how messed up they were, that they couldn't.
- 21:23I remember saying to people, you know, what's so wrong with a generation that they can't even tell if they're a girl or a boy?
- 21:31And the utter confusion.
- 21:33And how could this possibly be turned around?
- 21:36And if it wasn't, what's the future of our nation?
- 21:39And I stood there one night while for two hours students were coming to the microphone and giving testimony.
- 21:48I was raped.
- 21:49I was abused.
- 21:50And I got on my face before God at this altar and God has freed me.
- 21:55And it was like I don't need 20 years of counseling.
- 21:58I've been delivered in a moment of revival.
- 22:01And I swept.
- 22:03I thought, or this is how you do it.
- 22:06This is what can turn everything around would be the sweeping move of God.
- 22:11He did it to us because I don't think in my lifetime there's been a generation more like this current generation than what was happening in the 60s.
- 22:24All the revolution, Vietnam, the sexual revolution, all the same kinds of anarchy on college campuses and Kent State and National Guard being called out.
- 22:35All the same things have been happening now.
- 22:37Right.
- 22:38And it created, though, such a desperation that people began to pray and cry.
- 22:45So what a beautiful thing.
- 22:48And it shaped us.
- 22:50Yes.
- 22:51You know, when we started One Cry, I don't know if you remember this, but we we asked 50 men and women to just spiritual leaders to meet us at a I think we met in a airport.
- 23:12Big room is a lot of Atlanta.
- 23:14And as we began, Byron Paulus asked, let's go around and introduce ourselves and answer the question.
- 23:21How did you begin to have a passion for revival?
- 23:25And they're all names that if we called out those names, we'd recognize them.
- 23:29I mean, they're national leaders.
- 23:31And and the vast majority said the Jesus movement, Jesus, Jesus.
- 23:39So we're going to be wonderful.
- 23:41Fifty years from now.
- 23:43That they'd have a similar gathering and they'd say, well, it was the the spirit of God movement or whatever this is going to be called that happened in in 20, 20, 20s, you know, and all that occurred.
- 24:03And so that's why when we ask you to pray and join us and and helping to foster a movement of prayer for spiritual awakening and for the next generation, it's for all of my monkeys that are out there on college campuses right now.
- 24:24And we're praying for pizza ovens and God is doing the miraculous because he's not he's not raising pizza.
- 24:34He's raising men, you know, and warriors for the gospel.
- 24:39And these and these kids today, they're they're risking.
- 24:43They're taking risks like I did.
- 24:46Yeah, but I'm I'm seeing fruit that is far, far greater than than I ever, ever experienced.
- 24:52These kids are believing God for healings.
- 24:55Yeah.
- 24:56They're believing God for deliverances of various kinds.
- 25:00They are you see them in groups and they're praying over each other and they run to to crises and throw themselves into these into these situations, trusting that God is going to answer, trusting that God.
- 25:14Yeah, and he does.
- 25:16And it's just remarkable.
- 25:19So, Bella, you know, we were on the campus of Asbury University, one cry through through the collegiate day of prayer.
- 25:28We were on that campus nine months before the outpouring and we were establishing the relationships and the networks and calling for prayer.
- 25:40And I remember that fall, the the the chaplain, Greg Hasselblad, and he I asked him about this Thursday night prayer meeting.
- 25:51And he said, Bob, I just want to be honest with you.
- 25:54I'm not quite sure.
- 25:58Many students will come to a Thursday night prayer meeting.
- 26:01Wow.
- 26:03And then God surprises us all.
- 26:07And 16 days before our broadcast.
- 26:10Yeah.
- 26:11Which we talked to them about.
- 26:12You talk to them about canceling because the travel was meeting 24 seven.
- 26:17And they said, no, we think this will be the perfect time to bring that to a culmination in the physical sense with the collegiate day of prayer broadcast.
- 26:30And we had five million viewing viewing and praying along with us just on our stream alone.
- 26:37We don't know about television.
- 26:40So God is doing he has done something great in the past.
- 26:44I just believe he's doing even an even greater work now today.
- 26:48And we have to trust him for that.
- 26:50And today, instead of being leaders of that, we are mentors for that.
- 26:59Yeah.
- 27:00And we're coming alongside of young men and young women who are taking great risks and seeing great fruit for the sake of the kingdom.
- 27:08And who we're finding long for mentors in a way that I don't think we ever did.
- 27:15No, we didn't.
- 27:16There's there's a spiritual hunger for we could do a whole program on that for just for spiritual fathers and mothers.
- 27:24And and we've heard that from so many students.
- 27:28You know, I'm not quite sure.
- 27:29I wanted old people around back in the 1970s.
- 27:33We were doing Jesus festivals and all that.
- 27:37But they they swarmed to us.
- 27:39Oh, it's incredible.
- 27:40And they long for us to be around.
- 27:42Yeah.
- 27:43And they treasure.
- 27:45Yeah.
- 27:46The older adults and long to be with them.
- 27:49So, yeah, praise God for what he's doing.
- 27:51Well, Bob, we always.
- 27:54And this podcast by inviting everyone who's listening to pray with us, not just to listen to a prayer, but to really engage in prayer.
- 28:06And would you leave that for us?
- 28:07I sure would.
- 28:08Let's pray together.
- 28:10Father in heaven, we so appreciate.
- 28:15In hindsight, to see throughout the years how you have providentially cared for us and guided our steps.
- 28:26We thank you for the fruitfulness that has come out of unfruitful human flesh.
- 28:31That's right.
- 28:32And how your grace has been sufficient for us in our weakness.
- 28:36But God, we pray for an even greater work today that which you have done in the past.
- 28:41Lord, we don't seek for you to repeat it.
- 28:44We seek for you to eclipse it with an even greater work in this hour.
- 28:50And we see evidences of that.
- 28:52Oh, Lord, not only in America, but also in the nations of the earth.
- 28:57And we pray, oh, Lord, for a great outpouring and a great harvest in our day that we might live to see the greatest work of heaven yet.
- 29:06And I pray, Father, for those who are listening to us right now.
- 29:11I pray that for those who are wondering what part they might play.
- 29:16May they begin on their knees and may they begin by crying out to you for the sake of this generation.
- 29:25That it will be fruitful beyond what we could ask or imagine.
- 29:29So, Lord, teach them to pray. Teach us to pray.
- 29:32Yes.
- 29:33But also then teach us to rise from our knees and be willing and ready to put our hands to work for the sake of your kingdom and the glory of Jesus, our Savior.
- 29:44For whom we work and in whose name we pray.
- 29:49Amen.
- 29:50Amen.
- 29:51Amen.
- 29:52Well, you now know why I love my Bible.
- 29:57And thanks so much.
- 29:59You're so welcome.
- 30:01I'm sorry I'm such a mess, but I tell you, this just so stirs my heart.
- 30:08And I'm so grateful for your life and that God saved a young college guy and set him on a trajectory that impacts all of us more than we know.
- 30:20And he can do that with each of each of you.
- 30:24And I think, Bob, coming off what you just said to just get on your knees and say, Lord, what what do you want me to do?
- 30:32Yes, he'll tell you.
- 30:34And he'll open a path that will startle you and how he wants to use you.
- 30:39So join us next week.
- 30:42We continue to interview men and women who have been impacted by revival and and tell your friends about this.
- 30:52In fact, send the link to somebody about this podcast that we've had today with Bob.
- 30:58It'll be a blessing to them.
- 31:00And we want to thank you for joining us.
- 31:02We'll see you next time.
- 31:12Bye.
- 31:42Bye.