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25W: Final Four Preview + Former USC National Champion Paul McDonald + Bobby Isn't Sure if he Should Keep this Birthday Gift · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: This is a podcast called twenty five whist talking basketball,
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  Speaker 1: Twenty wine, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Stay tuned, you'll hear more about Draft Kings and all
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  Speaker 3: it has to offer throughout the show DraftKings. The crown
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  Speaker 3: is yours. We got a good one. We're gonna talk
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  Speaker 3: some college basketball for sure. We're gonna talk to Paul McDonald, which,
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  Speaker 3: if the name doesn't ring a belt. Initially, it's just
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  Speaker 3: the fact that this dude won a national championship at
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  Speaker 3: USC is a quarterback. The fact this dude is all American,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that this dude was drafted. And this is
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  Speaker 3: like the seventies eighties. I forget that everybody couldn't watch
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  Speaker 3: all the NFL games then. Yeah, and he was like
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  Speaker 3: King Dingling at USC and he's like, I'm drafted by Cleveland. Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't know much about the
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  Speaker 3: Browns because TV was very regional and this was like
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  Speaker 3: the national game. It's so that's so interesting to me.
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  Speaker 3: So Paul McDonald is joining us. We also talk about
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  Speaker 3: some of the stuff too, like what's happening in USC now.
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  Speaker 3: But that's fun. Good get Kevin, Yeah, yeah, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, most of the guest gets in case somebody
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  Speaker 3: knows they're Kevin. But this one, I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if that'll be interesting, and Kevin's like, just
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  Speaker 3: trust me on this one, and it was. It was
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  Speaker 3: awesome good. He was the first left handed quarterback ever
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  Speaker 3: for the Cowboys.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, and I don't know if they've had one since
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  Speaker 4: it was Quincy.
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  Speaker 3: He left hand. Maybe he wasn't left hand. Maybe he
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  Speaker 3: was just so bad he seemed like he should have
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  Speaker 3: been left handed?
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  Speaker 1: Were bad times? Were those?
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  Speaker 3: We probably good times? He's good Georgia, I remember being
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  Speaker 3: awesome at Georgia. He probably wasn't left hand. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why I thought that though, but yeah, we yeah that.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's a.
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  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, Keen Kellen Moore, Hey, bad times?
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I forgot who played for them?
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  Speaker 1: Me too?
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  Speaker 3: Me too? And when you said that first, I went, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: not offensive coordinator, left handed, yeah, corner, but he was
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  Speaker 3: also awesome in college but super system. But I mean,
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  Speaker 3: here's legit boys, stay right. Oh yeah beat Oklahoma. Yeah
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  Speaker 3: said all kinds of records there. Yeah. So the other
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  Speaker 3: thing is, there's a little bit of a half. The
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  Speaker 3: controversy wasn't made by anyone but me about a jersey
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  Speaker 3: that I was given as a gift, but then I
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  Speaker 3: found out I was stolen. Hilarious, and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what to do. So that's happening too. All that on
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  Speaker 3: the way, but now I'm talking like Seinfeld. It's also time.
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  Speaker 3: What's to do with a tittle title? His name?
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  Speaker 6: Ever?
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  Speaker 3: The tittle Tattle?
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  Speaker 7: After beating LSU and the Elite Eight, does Caitlyn Clark
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  Speaker 7: need to win a title to become the best female
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  Speaker 7: basketball player ever?
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  Speaker 3: I've seen this conversation happen on Twitter and people are
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  Speaker 3: pretty adamant on both sides. I feel like this is
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  Speaker 3: not to you. I know you're just get You're setting
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  Speaker 3: me up to give an opinion. I feel like that's
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  Speaker 3: the dumbest question in the history of questions ever.
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  Speaker 1: No offense, Kevin, I know, no.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I wanted to say that. But you're just
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  Speaker 3: setting me up to talk about it more than you
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  Speaker 3: really have this Ques, I'm just gonna leave guys. No, So, Kevin,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think? Kevin?
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  Speaker 7: In my opinion, she's already the greatest I've ever seen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I've never been into women's basketball college basketball. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: Diana Tarossi was awesome and Maya Moore was great, but
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  Speaker 7: she's a whole another level.
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  Speaker 1: It was the Oregon girl.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's played Steph in the three point shoot she
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  Speaker 3: was great too. I mean, she was the original holy
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  Speaker 3: crap shooter yea before Kaitlyn Clark. This is why I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to say, yes, I got I got a couple
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  Speaker 3: of reasons so we can. We can do stats. First
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  Speaker 3: of all, Right, as far as the stats of shooting
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  Speaker 3: most from the logo, she's number one. I just made
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  Speaker 3: that stat up. But she has to be, has to
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  Speaker 3: be on the stats of me appointment watching women's college
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  Speaker 3: basketball and not Arkansas number one, number one. Those stats
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  Speaker 3: alone put her there. Ratings NCAA women's record with twelve
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  Speaker 3: point three million views on Monday night versus LSU. Not
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  Speaker 3: on the network either way, it was on the ESPN, right,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't on It wasn't on a traditional Big four network,
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  Speaker 3: crazy like ab this. She has pierced popular culture in
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  Speaker 3: a way that no other women's basketball player has to her.
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  Speaker 3: Even if you haven't watched her, you know the name.
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  Speaker 3: There have been other amazing basketball Maya Moore, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Cheryl Swoops even who There are a lot you could
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  Speaker 3: say if you were going to put them one on one,
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  Speaker 3: or who really was the best? I think Caitlin Clark
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  Speaker 3: is overall the best ever because of what she's been
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  Speaker 3: able to bring to the sport. If I'm matching skill sets,
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  Speaker 3: that's tough for me because they didn't play against the
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  Speaker 3: each other. It's like going Michael Jordan versus Wilt Chamberlain
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  Speaker 3: versus they didn't play against so that we just go
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  Speaker 3: Michael Jordan. He's won championships, he or he's although I
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  Speaker 3: think Lebron's best ever. Honestly, to be that big and
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  Speaker 3: do that much, I digress. Here's my Caitlin Clark thing.
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  Speaker 3: You can't penalize her for not winning a championship because
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  Speaker 3: it's not all even in college sports. It's not like
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  Speaker 3: an NBA where there's a salary cap, where she's playing
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  Speaker 3: with what's around her. That school also I was not
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  Speaker 3: a basketball powerhouse. She has made I what basketball powerhouse.
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  Speaker 3: She's the best ever, She's the biggest ever. She may
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  Speaker 3: not be the most skilled. I think she's the most
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  Speaker 3: skilled Chelder I've ever seen him a whole life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: lights out and I'm just trying to avoid the well
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  Speaker 3: this Rebecca Lobo could dunk. I do think Caitlin Clark
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  Speaker 3: is the best ever, But I and I don't think
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  Speaker 3: a championship defines her. If it were a Pro Bowl
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  Speaker 3: and she had more than four years, don't want to
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  Speaker 3: add in COVID year into this. If it were more,
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  Speaker 3: if it were like she could do twelve or thirteen years,
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  Speaker 3: I would then say she needs a championship to some
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  Speaker 3: people to really be the best ever. But she literally
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  Speaker 3: has such a small spot to be able to do
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  Speaker 3: it that, No, it doesn't matter in college because you
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  Speaker 3: could go best college players ever, I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: they've like look at Kevin drant didn't play the long
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  Speaker 3: but he was awesome at Texas. They didn't win, They
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  Speaker 3: lost to Syracuse.
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  Speaker 5: Derek Rose pops in my head.
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  Speaker 3: Memphis. He missed free throws like crazy. Memphis missed all
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  Speaker 3: those free throws that he was so good, but they
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  Speaker 3: just cant shoot free throws. That's not his fault.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe little he missed, but in Mario Chalmers who three.
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  Speaker 3: That's true too. Yeah, but if they'd have made the
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  Speaker 3: free throws exactly. My point here is college is such
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  Speaker 3: a smaller scale. It's not fair to judge the greatest
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  Speaker 3: of all time on championships of college because there's only
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  Speaker 3: four years and a lot of times in year one,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they don't even play. She's the best ever. It's
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  Speaker 3: the dumbest question I've heard in my life. Not your
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  Speaker 3: fault though, no offense offense You agree with me, Eddie.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 4: By the way, Well, it's hard because like you look
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  Speaker 4: at like do you think it Barry Sanders, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like he was one of the greatest running backs ever,
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  Speaker 4: but he never won, got close to winning anything.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't put him at that.
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  Speaker 3: And the question shouldn't even been issue. The greatest ever
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  Speaker 3: he was. Your question was should she have to win
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  Speaker 3: a title to be considered it? Yes, So the answer
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  Speaker 3: is no, she shouldn't have to win a title. She
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  Speaker 3: should be considered in that conversation regardless of title. As
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  Speaker 3: I say, you can pick other people, but it shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be because she doesn't have a title that she loses.
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  Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, Dan Reno, right, Charles Barklay right, amazing but
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  Speaker 3: never won a title.
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  Speaker 4: But if Tom Brady never won a super Bowl, we
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  Speaker 4: would never put him as the goat.
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  Speaker 3: We wouldn't in football because he had a much larger
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  Speaker 3: area to dance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I haven't said all that.
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  Speaker 4: No, she's she's awesome, and I think everyone acknowledges that
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  Speaker 4: she's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: She needs to win a title to be considered the
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  Speaker 3: greatest ever. No, I say no to. Also, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think Charles Barkley's the greatest ever, but you can still
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  Speaker 3: be considered amazing without a title. He wasn't the greatest ever,
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  Speaker 3: but he's still top thirty five ever, never won a.
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  Speaker 4: Title, but everyone you say, who is the greatest ever?
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  Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Michael Jordan all won titles, but
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  Speaker 4: they also had a lot of time to do it,
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  Speaker 4: and they had a lot of time.
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  Speaker 1: Caitlyn's in college four years. Yeah, all right, next up?
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  Speaker 5: All right, hopefully a better question here?
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  Speaker 7: Oh that was Kevin's You were good dude with both
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  Speaker 7: one seeds being heavy favorites this weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Which underdog do you think has a better chance to cover?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: You know it, I just looked. Yukon is eleven and
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  Speaker 3: a half point favorite over Alabama Produce a nine point
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  Speaker 3: favorite over n C State. Yukon was having the plane
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  Speaker 3: trouble where they were waiting under the plane to pick
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  Speaker 3: them up and the they didn't have a plane. First
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  Speaker 3: plane broke, could play couln't get there. They got get to Arizona.
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  Speaker 3: It was like one thirty in the morning, still couldn't lead.
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  Speaker 7: You see it all, yeah, yeah, not the details of it,
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  Speaker 7: but I did see they got delayed.
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  Speaker 3: I only saw because we were having our show and
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  Speaker 3: I got home and they were still like playing issues
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  Speaker 3: that was reading about they could affect, probably not.
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  Speaker 1: Throat them off.
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  Speaker 3: Something's gonna have to throw them off. Now we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about covering here, we're not talking about winning.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you know who it is.
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  Speaker 3: Purdue at any point could lose. I think Purdue will win,
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  Speaker 3: but Purdue until Purdue is not Purdue, They're still Purdue.
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  Speaker 3: And I think they have to get to the championship game.
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  Speaker 3: For me, they don't have to win the whole title
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  Speaker 3: to not be Purdue anymore. But if they get to
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  Speaker 3: the championship game, I feel like they've dropped some Purduas
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  Speaker 3: and you don't want to have Purdunance on you. You
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  Speaker 3: don't even want the nest to be named after you
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  Speaker 3: because it was Virginians for all right. I think Alabama
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  Speaker 3: has a better chance to cover versus Yukon because I
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: think Alabama, if they shoot, if they they are so
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  Speaker 3: so dynamic, that's their thing. If they shoot a forty
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  Speaker 3: percent from three, if they can do that, that's trouble.
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  Speaker 1: But you know how that goes.
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  Speaker 3: They also can shoot twenty two percent and there it's
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  Speaker 3: a disaster. But I think Alabama can actually win that game.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they will, but I think they can
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: everything goes just right. I think North Carolina State's gonna
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: have to have everything go right and produce is can
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  Speaker 3: have everything go wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Oh really yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think Yukon can play well and still get beat
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  Speaker 3: if everything goes right with Alabama, because they have the
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  Speaker 3: athletes and they have the coach. But I think in
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  Speaker 3: the Purdue game, every it's just a different animal. Anc
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  Speaker 3: State's got to have both things go wrong. I think
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: had Adue go wrong and they got to go right
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  Speaker 3: Ancy State. They had such a good run they met
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: the final four. It's awesome.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think zach Edy has seen a challenge like
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: he's going to see with DJ version.
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  Speaker 3: You only say that because he's kind of fast. Yeah,
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: let's get him. He's also large tall, but he's also
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: like large.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: You got height versus body.
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: Zakidi has body too, He just happens to be taller
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: with the body so it doesn't look as wide.
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  Speaker 5: If it was like bull bullye, I'd get it well.
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  Speaker 3: And the way difference you may look it up. I'm
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: sure the DJ is weighed a few more pounds still
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  Speaker 3: because but he's six nine and he's got six inches
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  Speaker 3: on him. But have you seen his moves in the paint? Oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's touch, It's like light. It's like light.
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  Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Do something nothing but net with a hook.
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  Speaker 3: Well, don't say nothing but net, because that's stupid. Its bigger,
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  Speaker 3: nothing but the more, nothing but that. It feels like
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: when you go give me my change and goes he
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: stops saying give me my change at the why because
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: nobody says that anymore. That give me my change.
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  Speaker 1: When I make my three give my change, Give my change.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't make me, and here's the deal.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: Here's the deal.
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  Speaker 4: My kids are starting to say it too now. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't say that. Give me the change.
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  Speaker 3: It's such an old school funny thing.
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  Speaker 5: Is twenty five pounds heavier?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? But but do.
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  Speaker 3: You know here what we're saying. He's got a bigger body.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. A bully is a bully.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So you bully a little bit. You're changing, Okay,
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: i'd say, is a bully that's gonna be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Ei is a big giant that, like I can book.
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  Speaker 8: You know.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: You're being stupid. It's funny. I would say. Eadie's game
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: has developed so much it has any year.
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  Speaker 1: He's got a lot better.
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  Speaker 3: That we mostly are mad at Edie. I'm not I
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  Speaker 3: bet on him, mad at d because he's fouling too
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: much and not getting called or the opposite fowls get
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: called on the person against Edie all the time, unfairly.
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  Speaker 3: I understand the point, but at some point the refs
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: can't call foul every time, and at some point the
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: refs have to call foul sometimes. It's almost like in football,
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: we've had coaches on go Okay, pass interference, We're gonna
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: do it every time because eventually the rest can't call
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: it like off the line, so more like illegal contact
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: off the line Tyreek Hill. Every time, you hold him
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  Speaker 3: until he gets that because the rest aren't going to
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  Speaker 3: call it every time. Eventually there's gonna be a point
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: where they can't and it'll give us a bit of time.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: You can try that with Edie, and Edie can try that,
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: but eventually Edie's just gonna get to be Edie. And
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: he's seven foot three or four. He's also developed a touch.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: He's pretty lovely, he's pretty lovely playing.
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  Speaker 4: And he's learned to keep the ball above his shoulders
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  Speaker 4: and once he does that, nobody can get it.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody can even get closer to it.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway. I think Alabama has a better shot to cover
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  Speaker 3: because I think they can actually win. Okay, I think
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they will, but I think I think.
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's all the money that you put on
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  Speaker 3: Purdue speaking right now, I know, oh, I don't care
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  Speaker 3: about that because it doesn't affect that game.
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  Speaker 1: The money.
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying Alabama can win if Purdue plays pretty good,
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: because if Alabama plays exactly right, they can beat Yukon.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: NC State needs to play great and for Purdue to
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  Speaker 3: play terrible. But I'm done. All the numbers and weights
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: are messing up.
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: Wait, okay, let's go to the NBA here.
• 13:33
  Speaker 7: After returning from injury this week, do you think the
• 13:35
  Speaker 7: Sixers can make a legit run if mbat is healthy
• 13:39
  Speaker 7: in the East.
• 13:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: The best thing about the Sixers whenever it comes to,
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: you know, making the run, being in the playoffs, is
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: that they don't have James Harden. Harden sucks in the playoffs.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: I think Harden is done playing, like his contract says
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: it's over. And I mean he's notoricuely terrible in the
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: playoffs and he's awesome. He's actually playing. Hart has been
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: great with his change of scenery like that whole. I mean,
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: the Clippers for the most part have been really good,
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: and I think they're gonna make a pretty good plaoff
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  Speaker 3: roim because Harden has people on that team who can
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: tell him to shut up. He does it. He's not
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: the alpha alpha there. He can be one of the
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: alphas and he can throw a fit. How much fit
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: are you gonna throw? Whenever you look around at your
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: other teammates First of all, you got Russ coming off
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: the bench. And I know this question about the Sixers,
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: but it makes me think of Harden. You got Russ
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: coming off the bench. Kawhi is just somebody I wouldn't want
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: to mess with and anyway whatsoever. I feel like Kawhi
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: gonna sad that to you, but you go, he's gonna
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: hurt you and then he'll go. Like I was watching
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: some old YouTube videos of Kawhi Garden Lebron in that championship.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know what year it was.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Earlier.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he he gloved Lebron. It's wild to see how
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: good he was. I think they don't have Harden, so
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: they're not gonna depend on that. I think if Mbi
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: is healthy, mbiad is amazing. But he missed eight weeks
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: and like, and it's also a knee. I'm not an
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: athlete like that. I know I sprained my toe the
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: other day and doesn't hurt anymore, but I still worry
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: about it. Imagine if I eight weeks with a knee
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: procedure too. Like that's that that is, that's significant. He
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: did play his first game, what had twenty four points,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: six rebound, seven assists, but he didn't. He didn't he
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: didn't play the whole as many minutes as he would obviously.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: But I do think they can make a run. But
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: I do think Boston is MB to the Sixers, or
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: is Porzingis to Boston Porzingis if healthy, I think they
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: win all the East and maybe at all EMBIID. I
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: think they have a shot to win the East, but
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Boston's gonna be tough, and that's your team. I know
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: they're they're gonna be tough because they have it. They
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: have it all, they have scores, they have one of
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the best on ball defensive players in the league period.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: If Porzingis is on, he's just a hard matchup because
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: he is so big and he can play the five
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: effectively but can also and a lot of the big
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: guys can shoot now. But there's just something weird about
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Porzingis's ability to play, like all three levels really hard
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: to guard. It's like Gardnetty because he keeps yelling I
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: want my change. You know, I don't like Garden you It' annoying.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: He throws you off a little bit.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, they can make a run. I don't think they
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: win the East, even with EMBIID, But I think they could.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Probably they could make the Eastern Finals, depending on the seating.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Is awesome too, man, Absolutely, Yeah, we're not saying he's not.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I'm saying the greatest addition to Philly is the subtraction
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: of James Harden m Yeah, full circle and as long
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: as Embiid is there. Maxie's a dog.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he's awesome.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: MAXI to me is like Brunson and New York, like
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: you needed the right environment and the right people to
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: believe that if you can have the ball enough or
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: you can be the star, you can be a star.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And Max he's been able to do that. It's because
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Max he has become a freaking star. Yeah, Bronson is Dowes.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: He carries the Knicks trade.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: He's a superstar and he wasn't gonna be that in
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Dallas and they basically traded him for like a low
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: bread So that's what's up. Yes, they can make a run.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think they can win the East though. Go ahead,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: all right, it's go to the NFL here for the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: last one. After trading Stefan Diggs this week, where do
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: you rank the Texans in the AFC next year?
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Stacking out crazy?
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: The fact they have, they have mixing in the backfield.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: You also gotta remember Tank Dell C. J. Stroud, who yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: with nobody had a great year. The only thing that
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: scares me is that, again he was a rookie and
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: he did play really well. We kept waiting for him
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: to fail. He never did.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: He was never did.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: But again, there's not that huge sample size to go Okay,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: can he can do this multiple years in a row
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: once there's been a bunch of tape on him, once
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: people start to really scheme what he's been strong at.
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I do think is gonna be really good again, especially
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: with the weapons. The problem I guess I have with
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Digs he just seems like he's difficult. Same thing with Harden.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Like when Diggs was with the Vikings, wasn't the most
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: loved dude.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: You think he's toxic? Oh yeah, really big time.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen probably don't confetti ever, Like, what what's Josh
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Allen gonna do?
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Be happy? So Diggs is an awesome receiver. I do
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: think the Texans are strong. They're young defensively and but young,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: but like awesome at the same time. Their draft last year,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: you know, with two top seven picks Wills Alabama. He's
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: started to really be a stud at the back end
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: of last year, a little earlier than even expected. I
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: think that it's let me rank them. AFC Chiefs are one,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Chiefs lost Tyreek, Will Mahomes be good. Yes, I'm gonna
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: go Buffalo. They'll do something. They'll supplement the receiving a bit.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe in the draft. There's some good receivers.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: The lost Davis too.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't a Gabe Davis guy. I felt like,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why, because I had him in
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: fantasy and he just was existent. I mean it's not
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: in any way.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Well in the playoffs is when he was the only
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: time he would show up.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: But he don't get points of fantasy for playoffs, true
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: fantasy playoffs. He didn't. There's the real playoffs. Yeah, I'm
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: still gonna go Chiefs, Bengals. T Higgins.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: I even about T Higgins really good.
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: Huh.
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: It's hard to say if he's a number one, because
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: he can't be a number one with Jamar Chase obviously,
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: and even Boyd is good.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, if he goes.
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: To the Patriots or the Bills, he'll for sure be
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: a number one, and we take them all day, for sure,
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: but number number one like top five, No.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I agree, really good too. He's really good too. Yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: and that if Burrow stays healthy, I'm gonna go. Everybody's
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: healthy in my mind, just Chiefs, Bengals, Bills.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Now I'm gonna go Texans.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Wow, where's Baltimore in here?
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Next?
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Where the Dolphins? After all that they've lost a lot.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Then it starts to yeah, I mean then the Chargers.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I got think about Chargers.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Because Harball's there and they're going to actually run the
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: ball a lot. It's gonna actually make Herbert not have
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to carry the whole team, and he might actually be
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: as good as everybody thinks. He will be as good
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: as he is. And Harball's won everywhere. The Cowboys over there,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: and they got rid of Eckler, and I think it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: probably a good move based on how Harball wants to
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: run an offense. Harball doesn't throw. It's not Eckler all
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: day throwing, you know, swing routes.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Chargers.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Then you get to that second tier. Let's just do
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: tiers then first tier Chiefs, Bengals, Bills, Boom. Second tier.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I'm putting the Texas at the top of the second
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: tier with the Ravens and the Chargers and the Dolphins.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: No Browns not. Yeah, I just I don't believe in.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I don't believe Sean Watson top of the third tier Steelers, Browns.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Steelers can move up for sure, and I think they'll
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I'll have much better quarterback play obviously. What'd you say?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Ride them's?
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: That's right, let's right?
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what's he going to say with the Steelers?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Ride me still, steal me, still steal my heart. Let's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: steal still.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Let's still sometimes. But I do think he can really
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: be good. M Yeah, he's got he's He's probably eighty
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: one percent of what he was. That's enough over there
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: with the Steelers.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: But Russ right, not yeah, not Digs ok at Russ.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, with Diggs. I was just always just ranking
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the teams. Once the Eggs is on the Texans, gotcha?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: All right? That wasn't the stupidest question ever? Has a
• 21:45
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• 21:45
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• 21:48
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  Speaker 3: with this. Alabama covers So Alabama Alabama plus eleven and
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  Speaker 3: a half. I don't think they win. You heard me earlier.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: I think they can. But then I got confusing.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Eleven would be the closest win for Connecticut this tournament.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: I mean the last year two they and Arkansas had
• 22:27
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• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Arkansas Killama or Yukon in Vegas. Yeah, me the wife
• 22:33
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• 22:36
  Speaker 3: We're goetta. Oh god, three minutes of the game is over.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: It's over.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: That's terrible.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, We're like, we just wasted all this money and
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: time to come out here. But Yukon ended up winning
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: the whole thing. So I'm gonna go Ala Biama plus
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: eleven and a half. I'm gonna go Purdue minus nine.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And that's a lot of points to give up. I
• 22:54
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• 23:00
  Speaker 3: bought But I wasn't biased. I created that bias because
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I thought they would win. Does that make sense?
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I wait, I bid the money to buy Purdue. I
• 23:10
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• 23:12
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• 23:14
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• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Though count like you have the under theory that it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: all going to be under because they're nervous when the
• 23:21
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• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I would think the nerves are even more of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: final four for Yukon.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can just chill. They just roll up. They
• 23:30
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• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Play, We're playing what court?
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: They put a quarter down like we're next in jeans.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go the under on the Alabama Yukon game
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: only because if Alabama isn't shooting at a decent percentage,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: they're gonna still shoot and they're gonna score alll that's tough.
• 23:52
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• 23:53
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• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go under on the Alabama Yukon.
• 23:59
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• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I could feel guilty or I could not. This is
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: a Jersey controversy that happened with me and a gift
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: that was given to me that was stolen. Here here
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: is this segment. All right, we're in studio now with
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: one of my friends and he's one of the guys
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: that owns Super Coffee. And this is even a commercial
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: or Super Coffee, but that's how I know him. And
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you came to our million dollars show and you gave
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: me a gift, and still I feel guilty about the
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: gift because it was a sports gift. Jimmy, would you
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: say tell everybody the gift that you brought me to
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: the show?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: So we uh, I brought you as signed Alan iverson Georgetown, Jersey,
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: you know.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Which is awesome now hold on, I want to tell
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: you why I feel guilty of it, because if it
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: were just that, like, that's really generous of you and
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I that's awesome and that's like old school too. Yeah,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and it's but then he told me where he got it?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Where'd you get it?
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: My brother Jake played football at Georgetown. He's a big
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: AI fan, and I took.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: It off the wall, and you know, he stole it
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: from his brother.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: No, you did it?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So like I feel like does he know yet?
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: He kind of knows, but he's supportive.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: He's supportive of it is Bobby's birthday, but it's almost
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: like not super present tense when he says he's like,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: he's supportive when he fully understands.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Where the how long has he had that jersey? I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: know it's been ten years.
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: I think I think you put it on eBay and
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: we make him buy it back.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: That's cool, that's the most.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: That's so funny, Like that's hilarious until somebody scoops in
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: and pays more that it's gone. Yeah, because I love
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: but that I feel, I don't know, I'm torn how
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I feel. It's so generous of you to think of
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: me like that. And that I'm very appreciative. But if
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I were his brother and I came in and was like, where's.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: My eye jersey, I'd be pissed.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Where's the bit? Where's the answer? Yeah, it's not the answer,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: but nobody seems I know it was here. And you
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: look over and he's like, hey, man, he sees me.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: There's a picture of me wearing it that looks a
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: lot like you should just replace it with a picture
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: of bones wearing How important was that jersey to him?
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: Be honest, I think ten years ago it was cool
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: sitting on the wall. It was a decoration. And I
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: think everything you're doing with your memorabilia, I hear you.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think it works like that. It doesn't get
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it's cool.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: It's like Grandpa's ashes were cool ten years ago. You know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: they just don't meet as much anymore. Okay, I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I need to ask somebody with a bit I'm not
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: going to say better perspective, but maybe be a fuller perspective.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: So would you introduce whore sitting beside you? Yes, this
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: is my fiance Allison Allison. I feel like you'll keep
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: it real with the Alison, what do you think about this?
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I am great, I'm it's so kind. But what do
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you is anybody gonna be upset that I have this jersey?
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: I mean, I'm I'm a big sister too. Yeah, so
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: I understand the rivalry.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah so I don't want to be part of it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be a pawn in the rivalry game.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I mean I kind of do that's fun. And the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: bit of putting it on because I was I would
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: never I would have never sold it. I would have
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: that's awesome. But if the bit was, hey, put on,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: make them buy it back and donate the money, that
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: would be freaking hilarious. But only if, like he really
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: wants it. What do you think I should do?
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: I mean, I've known Jake for three years. I've never
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: heard him talk about.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Okay okay, I heard him mention that interest.
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: So I don't know.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Can I keep the jersey with no guilt? Because if
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: you say, yeah, that's what I'm going to do and
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I'm going to move past this in my life, yes,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: no guilt, no gilt. You kind of squinted her eyes though,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you know it was definitely if I were playing poker
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: against her, I'd be like she definitely the gift was
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: If anyone's going to feel guilt, like Jimmy has to
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: deal with that, you know, but I like Jimmy.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want you to feel guilt.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, judges, Eddie, what am I judging on?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: What I need? I mean, it's your gift. I get it,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: and it's it's very kind.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I think it's it's all on Jimmy here, like really
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: like he's the one that took it off the wall.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: He's the only decided, like I'm going to steal it
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: from my brother, give it to Bobby. It's yours now, dude,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: keep that thing.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Kevin.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I wasn't very convinced until she said that she's
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: never heard him talk about it in three years.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, so it can't mean that much.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But there's stuff on my wall.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I don't talk about it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: But she said Alan Iverson, She's yeah, I've.
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: Heard him talk about a lot of basketball players. I've
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: heard him talk about sports. You know, it's gone and
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: I've never heard him mention Alan.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Can I call him and tell him we go? Will
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you type his number on my phone and we'll have
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: and he may be super cool because he's like Oh,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: because I know him.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I like him, see me? He does? Now, Like, what
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: do you mean, Like, when did he find out?
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe.
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: He knows? Three?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, he's upset.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: But it went to boyemail so quick. He probably dropped
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: his phone in the bathtub trying to you know, because
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: he's sad as Jersey's gone. The phone in the bathtub
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't do anything. It's like a toaster, you know. Okay, Oh,
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: we got blocked. I'm gonna record video. This is a
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: good voicemail, like video voicemail. Hey, it's Bobby Bones here.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I wish you would have answered. I just have something
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I needed to talk to you about. Yeah, it's very serious.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: It's been on the heart of my mind. But you
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: you've blocked my call from my phone and now from
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: your brother, which makes me think we're both dead to you.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: And I know why. I know why we're both dead
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: to you. If you could call one of us back,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: that'd be awesome. I just need to talk to you.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Is that him calling? No, it's not.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Who is that someone else? Yeah?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's post alone.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Get that one.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Hopefully I'll talk to you soon. And this is pre preemptive.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Okay, I'm gonna send save.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: I don't even know you could do that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: It's the new okay that I'll let me push it
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: boom if he calls back, let me know. Okay. So
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: that's where I am, that's where we are, and but
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: it's not that the good causes my personal life the best.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Jimmy just doesn't care.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not selling it. I'm not unless you
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: were like, unless you were like donate, I would. But
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: it's like I was like, this is a nice gift.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I will keep it. Or did you mean for me
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: to sell it? Whatever you want to do, it's yours. See.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: The only way I can think I could find some
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: solace is if I did put it on for charity. No,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I still I want it to sound. Now I'm getting selfick.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Now I'm getting selfish with it.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Jim is here, younger brother, middle brother. That's right.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the modest so super coffee. How did you
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: it's three brothers, brothers. I know this. I'm not to
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: ask questions like I don't know. Yeah, but it's three brothers.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: And how did you guys start doing coffee?
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: We all played sports in college and growing up, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: we didn't want to drink a Starbucks that had forty
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: five grams of sugar in it. So we just started
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: brewing our own coffee, you know, healthy coffee, zero sugar
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: with protein it We're kind of just like jocks in
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: a dorm room putting protein in our coffee and tasted good.
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: It gave us energy, and we started selling it to
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: our friends.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: And now you sold you the coffee from your dorm room.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, nice.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: We sold that to Whole Foods.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: We from the dorm room.
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: We brewed it in a blender in the dorm room,
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: poured it into an honest tea bottle, and we went
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: to Whole Foods and we said, hey, we're super Coffee.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: No way they had a permit for that. There's no
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: way that. That's hilarious. And so they were like they're like, well,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: said you have a name, you must be legit. Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: how did how did you sell it to Whole food
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Did you just go and be like where we are there?
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: Store manager?
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Here?
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: Can we talk to him? And there's a store right
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: on Georgetown's campus. And the guy was like, yeah, if
• 32:05
  Speaker 9: you can bring your friends into my store, I'll sell
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: your products. So that's how we That's how we got in,
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: give us an inch and we took a mile.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: And how did it do well?
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: We made sure it did well, Like we stayed there
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: every day and poured samples.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And stock the shelf.
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: He gave us two little facings in the cooler and
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: by the end of the day we had we had
• 32:21
  Speaker 9: twenty facings.
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: Like we were very aggressive.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: There are artists that I know that have made it big.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Whenever a record store back in like the two thousands
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: would be like, okay, we'll stop. We'll give your record
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit of space because you're doing okay locally,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: but if it doesn't sell, we're not going to give
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: any space. And they would just have they just have
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: all the friends go buy it up back back, just
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: for that investment of they think it's working and even
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: if it's not, you can you can convince it to work,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah, And then then the record guy started
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: to put more out than other people would just see
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: it and then start to buy it, and then it
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: became a thing. That's that's that's a really cool story.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: How you got two Whole Foods though for not turning
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: you guys away. The manager, Yeah, that's not so, I'm
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: playing the guys works that works there.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's Derek Ruber, that guy without Derek Kruber, the
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: store manager at George Shown.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think there would be super coffee.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: What what sports did you guys play? Jake and I
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: played football, little brother Jordan played hoops. How about Jordan?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Does he like Allen Iverson? Because I now feel like
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I took it from him too, like I might have
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: gotten passed down.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he loved Alan like that was gonna be mom.
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: I know, shorts down to his ankles because of Ai.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dang, Why Austin, why'd you guys end up in Austin?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: We were ready for a change. Twenty twenty. We were
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: living in New York City. City was shut down, Austin
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: was open. Whole Foods is based in Austin, ironically, and
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: Austin's an awesome, creative city, collaborated.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: The greatest city. It's a great city. New York feels competitive, right,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: It's like, what do you do for a living?
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: Everybody's trying to wine up each other. Austin's like, how
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: do we help you win?
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Austin's like, how many trees are you playing today? Eleven?
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: You're in you're working today. Don't go to work today.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just mental health, go walk the woods. It's my
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: favorite city. I'm biased. Our whole showcame is they're either
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: born in Austin, from Austin. We all met in Austin,
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: we all lived in Austin. The show was birthed in Austin.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite city. Like, it's my favorite city and
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not from there, so I feel like I can
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: say that. And you're not from Austin either, from Montana.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: It's like the Austin of the Tanna's.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: I have a question about Montana, Like, can you just
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: go like drive five minutes and then the mic over
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: there and see like Buffalo's.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you I mean, if you're in near Yellowstone,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: you're he.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Just means generally anywhere anywhere like your backyard.
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: No, not five minutes, but to you know, one two
• 34:36
  Speaker 10: hours and you're in the middle of nowhere.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Did you basically anywhere you are? Did you hate when
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Yellowstone came out? Because everybody's like, is that like your house?
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Is that you No? I mean I love it? Okay, good? Yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: because when I went we were shooting and breaking bobby
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: bones in Montana and it was when Yellowstone was like
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: season two really getting big, and when we had a
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: land in Bozeman, but then drive like three hours. There
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: was no cell service where we were for a few days.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: But everybody was kind of annoyed then because it was
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: just just popping and they were just starting to go, wait,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: this isn't us. But then then you kind of realize
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: it's kind of a cartoon version, which is right.
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: It's it's like it's it's all sort of a caricature,
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: yeah itself.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: And people know that did you grow up a guns?
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Did you personally? But yeah, yeah, so we I'm in
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: an Arkansas. We grew up all guns all the time? Breakfast?
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: What'd you shoot this morning? You know? It was that,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: you know, growing up. Then I start to have different
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: ideas about guns and not you know, every knucklehead should
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: have one, but I understand them. And it's people that
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: come from rural areas that also can like see them
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: as a tool and not just what people who never
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: had one. Just I can see what people don't think
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: it's a bad like the only bad guys have guns.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: But I just wondered if, like, since you lived in Montana,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: it's probably pretty universal. Most people had a gun, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: it wasn't even like you got a gun. It's like, oh,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: you got a jack for your car. It was almost
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: like everybody had it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, the conversation is completely different if you're from a
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: Montana Yeah, Colorado then major.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Then if you're from either of the coast.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Because neither side understands each other because people on the
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: coast are like different, why and then people in rural
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: are like no, no, But you just wish there was
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: somebody like me who could bring your way together. I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: don't know who that would be. That would be just
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: like me, man. I wish there was like a me
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: with a retro jersey signed by a superstar. It really
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: rides from the ashes. Probably it really wouldn't matter. But like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: like he probably was like something that was stolen, but
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: he wanted to do good. But okay, your brother didn't
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: call us back. You let him know.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: He's upset, man, that's why he's like answer.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine that's why he's so pissed right now?
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Or he can't find his jersey, so he put his
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: phone to the side and he's searching all over town.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: He supported it stolen to the cops. Really good to
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: meet you. Hope he had fun at the show.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: It was awesome.
• 36:49
  Speaker 10: You know, it's like such a rare experience to see
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: that many amazing musicians with such different like vibes and talents.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: In one sitting. It's it's for us, it's really cool.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: But it's also because of that same thing, it becomes
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: a bit problematic because you're like, gotta learn this song,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: and it's this style, gott to learn this song, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: then sometimes Addy and I go like, we're not learning
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: this one.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: It's too hard.
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: If you guys were backing everyone up was so impressive.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, are they play?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Are they do? They actually know all of these songs?
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: Most you see sometimes not play. Like sometimes if I
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: got to a part of a song and I was like, well,
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I would just put my guitar. I would just take
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: my hands up. So people but most of it, and
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: some of them we were like, we're just hurting the cause.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Like when Edwin McCain came out like I, oh.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, I took a guitar off and I laid
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: it there and just went back to the I'm not
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: going to mess that up. Good uh, good luck with
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: with super coffee.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: You don't mean my luck. You're killing it. It's awesome.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: And then I got a jersey and we'll figure out
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: what the plan is. It's your gift, man, it is
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: my gift, and I want it. I'll be honest, No, yes,
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I just want to. I want to do what's right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: So when if your brother's cool, I'll do what he
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: thinks we should do. If he's like, I love it
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: and I will pay a ransom for it, it would
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: donate the ransom.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I would do that.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: If he's like, he should just have it, I would
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: do that, and that's all. We'll just leave it to
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: those two.
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: It would be funny if he buys it back and
• 38:26
  Speaker 9: puts it on the wall.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I could put if you said you should put it
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: on eBay, and what I would do, this is what
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I would do. This is the ultimate joke. I wouldn't
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: even do a Okay, I'm gonna put it up and
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: say give you can buy it for a thousand bucks.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I'd put it up as an auction and started at
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: like fifteen hundred or two thousand to three thousand or
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: something crazy, and then he'd have to go and at
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: least do that, and then watch people also fight with
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: him a bit it's so funny, but also want it.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: But I think you tell me all right, we'll follow
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: up on that work and people get super coffee.
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: We're in Nashville, you get it on Kroger, but nationwide
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: we're on Amazon. We're gonna have a skinny latte summer.
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: That's the that's the motto this year. What's that mean?
• 39:09
  Speaker 9: Don't put all that sugar in your coffee. Grab super coffee.
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: You're a sugar Oh. I thought it was like a flavor.
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: No skinny lot, it's the whole. The concept is skinny
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: lot for me.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: There.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: I hate coffee. I'm talking with super Coffee.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I hate coffee.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hate taste coffee. It tastes like I don't know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: poop tastes like for the rest.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: But you also don't know.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: You also don't know a lot about coffee, Like you
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: thought coffee cake was like, oh, I thought coffee coffee
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: flavored cake.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Oh was that funny to you?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: I thought coffee cake was coffee flavored cake, and I
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: was like, who in the world would eat I hate
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: the cake taste of coffee. Why would you make cake
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: taste bad? I mean that's fair though, Yeah, did you
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: enter the microfuse. Did you not think that coffee cake
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: was coffee flavored cake?
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's cake that you eat?
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Whoop coffee nolice? Is that known? Is that like universally known?
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's no.
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, dude, that the coffee like the nomenclature confusing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: I'll give you that.
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: But like I guess the real coffee cake is Tia Massoux, right,
• 40:03
  Speaker 10: because that's actually soaked.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, now that's true. Like a dessert, a Tierra Massoux
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: does have a coffee flavoring too.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Now you know what Tiara Massoux is, Yes, coffee.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I do know what that is because they this is
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: on the menu.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, coffee flavored cake.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And coffee cake says in the title.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: I never knew that's why they called it that what coffee?
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Coffee cake? So what did you think coffee?
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: What did you think?
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: I mean?
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Initially I thought, yeah, like coffee.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, that's the dumbest cane in the name.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, a bunch of idiots.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: So my point is, I hate coffee, but I like it.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: But I like super coffee for a couple of reasons.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: One because it's not that I don't feel like this
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: when I'm done. And then too. I like the pumpkin
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: pie flavor.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: And that may be like the most childlike flavor, but
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I do like the pumpkin pie flavor.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Fas like Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's actually I know.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I'm a child.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Do you want to know what's funny is Jimmy brought
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: some super coffee and he brought it out of a
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Kroger bag.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, did you buy it?
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: About your own stuff? That's like an artist whose single
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: comes out or the CD and they going by their
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: own at the target.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly what that is?
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, no coffee, brother, yet he must be like he
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: must be in a big meeting, like probably making deal.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: He's with it on a coffee.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: He's with the cops right now.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: So what I say on the front are said, G
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: E O R G E. Good to see you guys,
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Thanks for coming in for the show. Thank you for
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: the jersey. We we'll find out what we need to
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: do with it. And do you know AI, I don't know. Okay,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I mean I do. I'll call it like we could
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: settle it with that. Thank you, guys. Have a safe
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: trip back to Austin and we're coming in May or
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: so and maybe we'll see you guys in well on. Guys,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: been together, by the way, three years. Okay, so you'll
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: probably still be together in May hopefully. When's the wedding
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: are you guys? Yeah, when you guys get.
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: Married September of twenty twenty five in Montana.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: You got to have buffaloes there.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know the guy that runs Bevo.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: We can at least ship him up there.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: All right, right, Beivo the lomoren. We got to do
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: too much access Evo. That wait, how do we do
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: too much axes with Bevo?
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: You run them out, you silver spurs. You gotta put
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: the white cowboy pants on and all that.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: That's a good idea.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I want to do it. I want to do it
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: and be like.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Hv A tol. Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, thank you guys.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Good to see you guys too.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: All right, that was awesome. Now let's get over to
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: my talk with Paul McDonald. Paul was the quarterback in
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: the nineteen seventy eight USC national championship team, so that
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: alone is amazing. Also all American, he was a top
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: six Heisman. He was draft in the fourth round. He
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: was the first lietenanded quarterback with the Cowboys. It just
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: goes on and on.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Played under Tom Landry.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and what he's done even since he was also
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: the part of the broadcast team for USC for years. Right, Yeah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: he stayed it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: But you're you're missing the most important one the Cowboys. No,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Kevin played football with his son.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: How is that not on the sheet? Read your fire.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: It's not your job to fire somebody.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the cool part is three sons all played
• 43:08
  Speaker 7: D one, three quarterback quarterbacks.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all quarterbacks.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: He's an author and entrepreneur and overall like I liked him,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: like I wanted to be friends with him.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's awesome.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Now you can check out his work at game change
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: nation dot com.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: Here he is.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Paul McDonald, Hey, Paul, good to talk.
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: To you man, Bobby. Thanks for having me on your show. Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I got a lot to talk to you about, you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: as far as as the book and game Change, et cetera.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: But you know, when I was reading a bit about
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: your story, getting into the weeds a little bit like
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to that, to the year
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: that they had the strike and you know you're in
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: side gets hurt his arms hurt. You go like two
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: and one. You're probably feeling like, all right, this is
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: my big my big spot to make it in the NFL.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: And then the strike hits, Like how I mean that
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: had to be such a terrible time for you.
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: Well, we were, we were out for sixty days on strike.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: It was a completely weird experience, right. It was my
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: third year in the league. We played a few games,
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: we weren't playing pretty very well, and Brian Stick was
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: the starting quarterback. By the way, he won the MVP
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty so he's the best player in the NFL.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: In eighty one, it didn't go so well. So really
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: an awakening moment was when he was introduced one.
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: Game in nineteen eighty one.
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: He got completely booed by the crowd, and at that
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: point I realized where the term fan came from.
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: Fanatics. Right, But in eighty.
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: Two he was actually starting, and we went on strike
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: for sixty days, and I was working out, I was
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: staying fit, and I don't know what Brian was doing,
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: but it wasn't working. When he came back and then
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: I got the start. My first start was against the
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: When nice that went well when nice strike kids. Again,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: this is is a different time then, and I think
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: back any strike that I saw when I was younger,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: I kind of always held the players accountable not really
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: knowing how the game worked. Like I was like, could
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: you guys, they're just being selfish because again, we didn't
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: have the internet, we didn't have the ability to if
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: we wanted to learn more about it. To learn more
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: about it, we just kind of had to listen to
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the forty second bite from the sports guy or the newspaper.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Did you feel like during the strike that people really
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: didn't know what the strike was about.
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: It's a great question, you know.
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: I've done a lot of interviews, Bobby, and no one's
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: ever asked me anything about this, So it's really cool.
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: We're talking about. I think as the players, we did.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: Some things in the community, for nonprofits, for charitable organizations.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: We tried to get the support of Cleveland. Cleveland. Now,
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: Cleveland's a sports town. I mean, they love you or they.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: And they let you know how they're feeling. But I
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: loved I love playing in Cleveland. But yes, there was
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: I think this sense of wait a minute, come on,
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: let's we just want to watch you play. What's the
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: big deal and we're we're scrapping for peanuts, you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: on the on the on the floor back in the day,
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: compared to what's going on today with the financial structure.
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: So what we had the.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: Unions behind where we're union collective bargaining agreements as what
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: it was, and we're part of the NFL Players Association,
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: which is a union. So we had team stirs, we
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: had other of these organizations.
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: Walk in the picket line. I walked the picket line.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: That's crazy, weird, that's crazy.
• 46:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I mean even like not to stay too much on
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: a strike in general, but just being me being an
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: un educated sports fan. When I was a kid when
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: baseball struck, I was like, you guys are making a
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: ton of money. Get back. But then you realize what
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: the owners are actually making, and you know what, it's
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: a business, and you everything's relative, and so I was
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: just when I read your story about the strike hitting,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, that's stinks. And then it
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: just put me on this whole spiral of Man. I
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: used to hate strikes and hate the players for it,
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: but it really is not the players. It's it's on
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: both sides. But I would just blame the players because like, well,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: you're millionaires, you should go play. But then I'm not like,
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: well you're billionaires. We just didn't know who the owners
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: were and so we couldn't really vilify them because they
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: were just a big corporation. But your career has been
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: so crazy, Like you are a first team All American,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: you win the national championship at USC when you're in
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: LA in what was that like the late seventies when
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: you win the national championship seventy eight or so? Yes,
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: are you famous in LA in the late seventies as
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: the USC quarterback that won the national championship?
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: No?
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: No, not famous at all, even though we were on
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: the front page of the Times most every every day and.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: First team All Americans, you know. But still it's not
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: like Matt Lioner even was. It's not like we could
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: go through a bunch of the USC quarterbacks now it was.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: You weren't famous even though you were that dude.
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: Now, this is pre social media. This is a pre
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: I mean, all you have with the print news and
• 47:58
  Speaker 8: when you had you know, you had uh you know, the.
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: Weekly news and the daily news that there wasn't much
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: out there now even the people on campus. There was
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: a little bit buzz there, but I think people were,
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: Staying away.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: They didn't want to hound you.
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: No, not at all. I mean I didn't know what.
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: Fans hysteria was all about until I got to Cleveland.
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: Believe it or not.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: When you go and you're drafted, then the fourth round,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: what is First of all, what's it like being drafted
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: in the first round? Back there? Now it's you on TV.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: You go to New York or wherever they're having it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: We had a Nashville one year in Vegas. But to
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: be in the fourth round is that they two, three, four?
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: They do it all in one day?
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Like what was that situation like?
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: All one day? Back back then again? No press, no media,
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: no nothing. First first time ESPN actually broadcast the draft
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: on TV. It was cable when no one had cable,
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: so I didn't even see it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 8: I just got a phone call.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: I got a phone call from samartig Leana who was
• 49:04
  Speaker 6: the head coach, telling me I got drafted.
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: In the fourth round.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: I was a little bummed because I was supposed to
• 49:10
  Speaker 6: go earlier by the Raiders and fortunate unfortunately for me,
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: but fortunately for him. Mark Wilson was available in the
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: first round. They took him, and so I had to
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: wait till the fourth round. At that juncture, I was
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: just happy to go anywhere, to be to be picked
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: and have an opportunity to go play and get paid
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: for it.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: With the Brown was mister Brown? Was he there when
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: you were there?
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: Paul Paul Brown? Now he was at Cincinnati. Yeah, no
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: he wasn't, but he started. Art Modell was the owner.
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: They had a you know, they had a good I
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: didn't see that much on television, right, We didn't get
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: that out here in southern California. We got the Rams
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: mostly sometimes the Niners, but but I rarely saw them.
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: I didn't know where Cleveland was. I had to look
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: it up on a map.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, so you're playing with the Browns. You know you've
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: you shifted teams a few times. You were in Seattle,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: But did you ever actually make the team in Seattle
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: or on the practice squad?
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: There did not There was no practice squad. You made
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: the team, they sent you home. So I was was
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: with Cleveland for six years and got to play. I
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: started twenty two games, and that was a blast. Again,
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: you reference eighty two. We got the team to the
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: to the playoffs in nineteen eighty two, so that was
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: really fun to do that.
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: But then I got cut.
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: And I had a choice between Cincinnati or Seattle. I
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: thought Seattle would be a better opportunity, and I was
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: sort of wanted to get back to the West coast.
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: But then I was just in training camp got cut.
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: Fortunately I had an injury guarantee, and so mid Sea.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: It's interesting because you you're cut and you're like, Okay.
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: You're looking at the waiver wire who got cut.
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: Maybe there's an opportunity for me to go to another
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: team and get picked up and keep playing. I did
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: that for several weeks and then nothing, no phone calls, nothing,
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: And so finally I got a call from my old
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: friend Paul Hackett, who was coaching at SCA. He was
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: at that time the offensive coordinator for the Dallas Cowboys,
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: and he called me and I decided he was just
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: calling a chat because I had forgotten about it. I
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: was like looking at like what am I going to
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: do with my life kind of thing, and he said, hey,
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: Danny White got injured on Sunday, and that's time.
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: I got to Dallas for a couple of years.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Dan, that's pretty cool.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I love that.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: So you you played under Tom Landry. Well, I mean,
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I'm a huge, huge Dallas Cowboys fan, but I don't
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: know much about Tom Landry other than my grandfather busted
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Tom Landry stealing Beebies from his hardware store.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: I hear the story everywhere.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that is shocking that he would do anything illegal.
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: That's crazy.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. What what was he like?
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: Stoic? He was kind of in his own little world.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: Not not a guy you would run up to and
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: give a hug or even a high five. He walked
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: down the hall sometimes because he was in his thoughts
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: and you walked past him, and he wouldn't even recognize you,
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: wouldn't even acknowledge you, wouldn't say hi to you. And
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: I thought that was a little strange. We would have
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: meetings and he would go through these spreadsheets and he
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: had all these different categories of measurement. How how the
• 52:28
  Speaker 6: team was doing, you know, third down conversions, first down,
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: how many yards on first I mean.
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: All this, you know, just detail.
• 52:37
  Speaker 6: And I was up on the top row one time
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: we were doing this, and I mean half the row
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: was they were sleeping there you know, because he had
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: this like overhead projector putting.
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: Those numbers up on them.
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: They could Most of the players couldn't follow the numbers,
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: but he he obviously was an amazing coach. Would have
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: loved to play for him longer. In fact, he told me,
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: I wish I would have drafted you. He was very
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: loyal coach. When I got cut there on my way out,
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: he said, I wish I would have draft you because
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: he was that way. He would he would hang with
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: you a long time. It's unfortunate how it all ended
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: for him, with his career and Jerry Jones coming in
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: just cleaning house. It's disappointing to see that. But great man,
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: great human being.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: A couple of questions for you about what's happening kind
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: of now us he leaves the PAC twelve pactell is
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: basically two teams now but what what? What the heck? Like?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: That's a whole new feeling. If you're an SC fan,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: you're traveling to places you'd never been, all the way
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: across the country. How do you feel about that?
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: So weird? It's bizarre.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Good luck at Ruggers, you know, it's for it's crazy scheduling.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: They could really put the knife to the Trojans, the Bruins,
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: and of course the Ducks and now you dub uh
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: in the tribal schedule playing playing those games in November
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: when it's snowing back in the Midwest and Ann Harbor
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: or you know, the Big House and the Shoe at
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: Ohio State. So I think it's gonna be really, really interesting.
• 54:08
  Speaker 6: I don't know how they're gonna deal with travel. I
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: think football is one thing, but all these other sports
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: think about that. Yeah, what are you gonna do? Go
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: play doubleheader? You miss miss school? I mean you're gone
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: from school for a week or two weeks with basketball, baseball, tennis.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, I just don't know. And the cost of
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: travel is going to be immense. So it's gonna be
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: an interesting experiment.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: When you're playing at SC Mark s Allen's on the team,
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: young Mark Sallen. Was he something or was he just
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: one of the awesome dudes who developed into something even better?
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: So here's trivia question. Bobby who is named the modern
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: day quarterback? And trust sixty six years old, so we
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: use that term loosely.
• 54:53
  Speaker 6: Name the modern day quarterback who played in the same
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: backfield with two Heisman Trophy winners.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go the modern day quarterback who played in
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: the same backfield with two, But so first, it's got
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: to be something that is about you. Initially I would
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: go Heismotrophy, but Thrma Thomas didn't win the Heisman Trophy.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Barry Sanders, they both played at Oklahoma State. I think
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: of elite running back tandems Jackie Robinson not he played,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: was a great football player too. But he asked me
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: one more time, who the modern day quarterback? So that
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: had to be somebody from the seventies on.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: I would say, yes, from the seventies on, Yes, exactly.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: So what played in the same backfield with two Heisman
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: Trophy winners.
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: M Okay, it's you.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: It's you. It's got to be it's got to be you.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: It's a great question. Okay, yeah, got it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: How do we not get that?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: No, less the point. Paul McDonald's my guest.
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: Let's go boom. Yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: Charles White won it my year in nineteen seventy nine,
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: and then and Marcus was the starting fullback.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: That's crazy, and so he wanted.
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: Two years later. So you can win a lot of
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: money on that beat. In any bar anytime.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: I just should not have been an idiot. Why That's
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: why I didn't have any friends and I lost all
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: the time he was there, I didn't get there. Okay,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: I got three final questions for you, Lincoln Riley. Will
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: he play with full eleven men on defense this year
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: unlike last year where he was had like four guys
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: out there at a time.
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: You know, so many of my colleagues, my former teammates,
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: were just shaking our heads.
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: To win a title in football, you have to have
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: a mental toughness. You have to be physical, and that
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: means running the football. It doesn't mean necessarily.
• 56:39
  Speaker 8: Mean throwing it every down, and that means you got
• 56:42
  Speaker 8: to play great defense. You know.
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: Obviously championship wins defense. Isn't that the cliche? So it
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: was so frustrating. Doesn't matter how any points you score,
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: you keep giving it up out the back door. So
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: they're certainly getting all the players and recruiting portal got
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: I think, and enhanced coaching staff.
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: We'll see, but you know, it's that.
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: You have to have that mindset of physical toughness. The
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: offense they run does not coincide with that level of mindset.
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: It's finesse, it's skills, it's fast receivers, it's fun.
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: It's you know, it's not their.
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: Dam three downs on a cloud of dust. It's let's
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: just make this fun and entertaining. We're like showtime. That's
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: what their offense is. But to win a championship, they
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: need to develop a different culture.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: What's difficult If I were an SC fan, Well, my
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: family's all OEU fans, so the massive OU fan, So
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I I'm not. I'm an Arkansas fan, but I got
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: to I watched Owe you a lot, and you know,
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: if this was a one off thing, you'd be like, well,
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: but the same thing happened at OU where they scored
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: a bunch of points, but they had a bunch points
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: scored on them. So it's not like he just has
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: a switch he can flip. So if I were an
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: SC fan, I'd be like, dude, just bring somebody and
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: go with defense as yours and I will not touch it.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Difficult thing to do, obviously, but do you feel like
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: defensively they're going to actually recruit different types of players
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: now that they're playing in that conference, Like the Big
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: going to the Big Ten, it's a bigger, it's a
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: whole different landscape.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: I hope so, I hope so. I believe that's what
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: they're doing. I believe that's what their intention is. Hey,
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: he's a smart guy, Lincoln Rise is a smart guy.
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: But you are right.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: Your DNA is your DNA. I believe he took a
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: real step back to look at the landscape and review everything.
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: I think he's going to allow the defensive coordinator, that
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: the guy from UCLA to run the show.
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: And he's got to run his defense. You can't. And
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: they did a good job at UCLA last year just
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: one year being there.
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: So hopefully that will be the case for USC this
• 58:50
  Speaker 6: year that they'll be tougher.
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: They can stop and get the.
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: Offense off the field, so the Trophans can come on
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: and score the points that they know how to do.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: All right, trivia question, and I'll end with this, is
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: it Paul McDonald, Well, he's part of the answer.
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: I'll get that one.
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: So in the nineteen seventy that the Heisman Trophy voting,
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Paul McDonald finished sixth overall. Who finished first, second, third, fourth,
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: and fifth?
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: Well, let's see, second might have been second or third?
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: Was Arch Sleaster. Wow, that's a great question.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: I don't even know the answer. I just wonder. I
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: just wondered if he knew who finished the five that
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: finished ahead of him more than I.
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: Knew I finished sixth.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's look it up.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Let's look it up.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: So you didn't even know, No, No, I didn't.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I just want to see if he knew because nineteen
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: seventy nine heisman Charles White is a winner, obviously, right seem.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Charles White.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have the rest of them. I have me, Okay,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Who do you have at second?
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Billy s Oh from Oklahoma? Yeah, go ahead? And
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: number three Mark Wilson, one of the Beach Boys, go.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: Ahead, and number four Art Slid.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: That'ston Peyton and Eli Son Art.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: He just said that, he said.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: And then have five Vegas Ferguson, Oh, classic Vegas, Vegas Ferguson.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: Notre Dame running back, good player.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: A couple of things that I wanted to talk about. First,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: we're uh, you know, a bit of adversity because I
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: just kind of want to lead into the book here,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: and I feel like we all have a ton of it. It's,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: you know, not if we're going to get it, it's
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: when we get it. How do we react? You know,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: what are the tools we've kind of developed? And so
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: you wrote through the Tunnel true stories of sports and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: life that empower your spirit. So is that is this
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: book just gonna make me a better person? Because I
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: need it, Paul. That's why I have you here.
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  Speaker 8: I need it, Bobby. We all need it. We all
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: need to improved. We all need to be our best self. Fact,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 8: there's a chapter in there, be your best self.
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  Speaker 6: I think you know what we tell ourselves all day
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: long is a reflection of our life. And if we're
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: not caring for ourselves, how can we care for another.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: That's not narcissistic, that's just the fact. That's what we
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: should be doing. And but we go around beat ourselves up.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: Why did I say this? Why do I do that?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: I better than that? Now, you got to be grateful,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: grateful for what you have, Grateful for what you've done. Bobby,
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  Speaker 8: Look at you.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: Look at your career, I mean music, country music, your
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: status in the in the world, sports, comedian, renaissance man.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: Really focus on all of those great things instead of
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: what you're not doing, and good things will continue to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: happen for you.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I'm more like Rent to own mannisances. Yeah, I'm more
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: like you go and you pay a little bit each
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: month and by the time you finally get it, you've
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: paid like four times for it. It's like it's more
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: like layway those real price. You know, that's the difference.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: So tell me about game change, because it feels like
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: that is a resource that a lot of folks are
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: able to used to better themselves or at least put
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: themselves in a position to do that.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: We're launching at the end of the summer.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: We're super My partner and I, Jack Barrett, were super
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: excited about it.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: I met Jack this is a good story through a
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: mutual friend.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: We met He is a documentary filmmakers, a storyteller, and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: so he wanted to make a movie, a documentary on
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: the history of the USC UCLA football rivalry. So I said,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: I wasn't that interested in it, you know, even though
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: I broadcast football at SC for fifteen years on radio,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: just didn't interest me. I was interested in bigger things,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: different things instead of just football.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: But then we start talking about, hey, let's attach ourselves
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: to a charitable cause. Let's do something good for society.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: So we found this charity called curate and we made
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: the movie. We had this premiere. It was awesome.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 8: We had half the side was sc former sc.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: Athletes and football players. The other half side was former
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: UCLA football players and we watched the film together. I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: raised a lot of money for this organization called Cure
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: for Cancer Research. We've netted that. We've had a dinner
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: ever since then. That was about twelve thirteen years ago.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: We've had a dinner. And now we've got a golf
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: turn who netted five million dollars for cancer research by
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: making that movie.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: So how cool was that? So that's how I.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: Met Jack, and then Jack and I really became friends.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 8: It was him nudging me, Paul, we.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: Got to write a book. You got to write a book.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: My son also nice me too.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 8: I thought like, what am I going to write a
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: book about?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: So we came up with the theme and so the
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 6: book Through the Tunnel is really a precursor for game
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: change and game change. You know, let's be honest our society,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: especially the pressure the state of the mental health of
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: our children. And we're focusing on to start and launch
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: our company high school student athletes. I mean, the pressure
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: on these kids is immense with social media with what
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: theirs expectations are to getting into college and getting to
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: college of their choice. So we're providing inspirational content. A
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: lot of it's free, but there is a paywall, so
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 6: there'll be some subcrision as well. We're going to have
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: mastered class like things classes and web live, web broadcast
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: chat room for these kids that they can just go
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: hang out and it's all.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: Positivity, it's all empowerment.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: So we're going to not just fire them up, We're
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: going to provide them tools of how to lead their
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: best life.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: That's awesome, I am mental health is something that this
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: generation now is actually understanding. It's something they work on.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I mean mine was like the last one where it
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: was kind of embarrassing to talk about but a few
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: people were doing it. But now, especially with what you're
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: doing and you're having something that exists that people can go.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: It's a well that people can go get water, Like
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: we're learning why we need water and that's well they
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: can go get the water. And so I think that's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: great for athletes who honestly, if you're really good at
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: being an athlete, people wonn't really focus on you for much. Else.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: I think you've seen that too, and there's not a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: lot of skills that are developing. I didn't develop being
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: funny let until I got beat up, you know. And
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: it's these athletes are always, you know, either the prize athlete.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: That's all they're known for. That they don't have to
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: develop other skills until they get to a point where
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: they just don't have them, and that's really not where
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: we want them to be. So I really commend to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: you for your effort in trying to take care of
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: these kids and these young athletes.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: Well, thank you, Thank you, Bobby. We're doing our part.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 6: It's not just those that are lead either, it's you
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: look at like ninety five ninety six percent of these
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: kids will not play in college, and it's that high
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: school experience that.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: We want to maximize for them.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 6: And by the way, the lessons you learn in sports
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: are just fantastic, you know, like you said, Overcoming adversity,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: working with others, being on a team, dealing with a loss,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: dealing with a win, how to perform in pressure moments,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: how to rise above There's so many different lessons to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: be learned.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: So we want to keep them in sports.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: We want to keep them having fun and have the
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: proper perspective about it, and even if they're not, you know,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: the star it's it's an awesome experience. And think about
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: when you were a kid, Bobby, I mean just playing
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: in the street with your buddies. That's what sports is
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: meant to be, and that's what we're attempting to encourage
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: kids to continue to do.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I like dealing with wins. Did you have buddies, nobody's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: and any bodies and didn't win? So you know, I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: definitely going to use this. I use this here. Well,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: look this is It's been awesome to talk with you.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: Congrats on the book and also I'm really looking forward
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: to seeing game change Nation. Man, this gonna be awesome.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: You know, it's a super great idea. I think it's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: a much needed idea, and I think it takes somebody
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: who's been through it but has also learned what you
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: didn't know. Meaning if my analogy as I grew up
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: really poor, but now I'm pretty rich, and I know
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: how poor people get screwed over, so I can help them.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: And the same way with you being an athlete and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: now you've switched your career to go to business, you
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: now can help athletes had no idea what what what
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: they were missing out on with business because nobody was
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: helping them. And so because of that, like I admire that.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: I'll leave you with this quote, Our greatest work is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: that which we wish had been offered to us when
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: we were in our deepest pain.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty hard quote to leave me on, because
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: I got to look it up and see what that means.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: But I leave you with this quote.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, quote challenge.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: We quote back and forth. Whoever established the high road?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: Wait?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: I lost it, dang it.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just gonna go
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: ask where they were going and hook up with them later,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: hook up with them later, get fine them.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Ah, got it, got it. I took that a whole
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: different direc Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Let me leave you guys one okaye quote get busy
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  Speaker 4: living or get busy dying?
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  Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I'll leave you one more quote. Here's another one.
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  Speaker 3: All you need is love but little chocolate now and then, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for the time.
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  Speaker 8: You should run a book, Bobby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, congratulations, and hopefully we'll talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on. I had a great time.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what is sexy? My gold bo Jackson signed
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  Speaker 3: Tops eight of twenty signature.
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  Speaker 1: That's not sexy. That's sexy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I tried to have sex with it the
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  Speaker 4: That's so cool, man, that's so so cool at all
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  Speaker 4: those cards are so cool.
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  Speaker 3: So we opened the box and we streamed it. I
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  Speaker 3: guess we haven't talked about it here though we haven't.
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  Speaker 3: We did so much talk about it on this, I
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: should do a quick recap and you'll see the whole
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  Speaker 3: episode when we do our series on memorabilia. So we
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  Speaker 3: open this box and get the invitation. Got a Goal
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: Tier invite? I have to RCP to that, I guess,
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  Speaker 3: but I don't know if I get one or two people.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Do I want to go by.
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  Speaker 1: Myself and you want to take me with you?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: No? No, No, Listen to what I'm saying. What if I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: only have the option to go by myself if it's
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: not a plus one? Do I want to go by myself?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: You have to? That's awkward.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: It is awkward.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: It's awkward.
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  Speaker 5: What if they ask you to wear like a masquerade?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Oh? Do I have sex party? Yeah?
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: With cards?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 7: I call Jackson, bring your bo Jackson, Bobby.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question, man.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of feel like I have to just for
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  Speaker 3: the story. Yeah, it says Baltimore doesn't give a date
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: and I need an RSVP because I have it, and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: it says gold Tier. But I think I think you
• 1:11:43
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• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: basic because the box is gold. But I don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't find it, Mike anything.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Nothing about that.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: But I do see there are no plus ones?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: What one ticket?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: They want you to go solo, so you buy a
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: box and then you have a.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: Hey even Willie Wonka, like even little I only had
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: a plus one?
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Is that for this year? Microp for last year?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm seeing it right now.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: That's I guess somebody else email them because there's nothing
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: under the ticket and they said yeah, they said back
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: no plus ones.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Wow, dang secret club.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: I got a minrdy No, that's Usmarinardi Johnny Bench one
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: on one sign was cool. I looked up the Derek
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Jeter because now I've been able to spend a little
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: time with the cards and you know, we cry together.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Hey are they still all laid out the way we like?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 9: It?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Wereked till yesterday. But I had dorm dudes come over
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: before they left, and I had them help me sleave
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: them because I don't feel good about messing up the
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: cards and they do it all the time. So I said,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: would you guys come over and help me put them
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: in stuff so on a mess the corners up.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they know how to grab all that stuff.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: And they did. They came over and some of them
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: were like, you don't want to sleave these, we have
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: to get order bigger sleeves two by two, little dozzle
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  Speaker 3: point nine six.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Illuminardi, get the ID deal and get a bigger card.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: And so I was like, okay, so I ordered some
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: batter ones but they're so awesome to look at.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: It just costs so much, But I don't even care
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: about costs anymore because it's already gone. Yeah, it's like
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: credit card money gone. Yeah, it's credit card now. It
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: sunds play money except not really. It sucks and I
• 1:13:06
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  Speaker 3: you know, points aren't. Yeah, he's so he's exactly what
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: he said. But I have to go to this thing
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: by myself. If that's true, I have to go. There's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: no date, but I am going to RSVP today. If
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: you want to know a little fun fact. And I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: don't know that we're doing it. I was talking with
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Zach from Dorm Dudes, and he's the CEO, and I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: was also talking with his like first in command. Do
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: you guys do you guys meet those guys?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dorm Dudes, Yeah, yeah, Zach and Shane.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Zach and Shane were over. We did an
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: interview about breaking and Zach's like, man, Zac's like, I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: want to buy a box. Probably Zach's a kid. They're
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: both really smart, extremely ingenuitive. Twenty two year old. Yeah,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: he was hustling with a lawn care business before this,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: like building out a lone. Like he's he's got a
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: brain as an entrepreneur. It's wild because he's so young
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: and like risk taking and like doesn't come from like
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: money or anything. So he was like, we should go
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: in thirds and buy another box. And I was like, man,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: third sounds so much better.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Than another pool. So y'all doing it?
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: I Well, surprises have gone up. They're like thirty grand
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: a box, now, I know. So I said I would
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: be in if we could find another twenty well mine
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: was twenty five. If we could find one between twenty
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: and twenty five, I would go in on a third.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Do you think you'll make money off this first box?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because at least your money back.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I hope I'm gonna start doing that.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: But I looked up the Derek Jeter that I have
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: because there's like a a something of fifteen in the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: same card that's twelve hundred bucks. I have something of
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: ten that Derek Jeter Patch signed, so I know that
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: one's at thirteen fourteen hundred bucks. We got a bunch
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: of five hundred ers. We got that John F. Kennedy,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: which I'm going to a list on eBay. I'm gonna
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: start at like ten grand and nobody may buy it,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: and I hate to have to get rid of it,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: but I'm on my money back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: I didn't do this business man. No, it's actually a stupidity.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: It's just for fun and for a series. And if
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: I lose a few thousand bucks, that sucks. But we
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: have a show. We're trying to make this show well,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: hopefully we get sponsors. It wasn't just me throwing money
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: at it. I saw some people and I made the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: joke too, like you give a poor hillbilly money, look
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: what he goes and buys. True, but also to us,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: it's a series and we're out pitching it now for
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: sponsors and hopefully I'm able to make money and pay
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: for it. And if not, then I'm just a hillbilly
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: that has too much money.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: And they're right.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: It is what it is, just a hillbilly for sure.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: I'll be back to that soon if I keep buying it,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: don't worry. Uh So, I've been looking at him, but
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: we've sleaved them up. We feel pretty good about some
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: of them thinking about doing another one. But then it's
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: the if they're all three of us, who gets that
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: other ticket to the party? Oh yeah, yeah, because there's
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: three of us and I'm is it. I have equal
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: call to that ticket as well.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: I got it. Is what you do?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Get the ticket in half?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: You know, you put all you put all the names
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: in in a hat and if whoever draws it goes
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: to that person. Now, if you get it, I get
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: a second ticket, and then you get a plus one.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: I don't hate that idea. We're going with you, and
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: that's then we'll draw all your names. Who goes with me? Oh?
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: And then draw.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: You know where your big coat and just on each
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: other's shoulders. It's funny that twee. Your mind goes child.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Like sneak in big huge trench coat.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Read let comes out of nowhere with gold sometimes Uh huh.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: That's hilarious. So that's that deal. I don't when this Airrs.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: It could all be settled. I don't know. Personally, I'm
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: dealing with the Arkansas Razorbacks.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 8: Mike.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: Will you look and see I anything's happened, If must
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: has gone yet, if he's.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Not leaving, what do you know? What do you know
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: about it?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: I don't want him to go, but if he does go,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with it because that's his mom lives there.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: That's how California, Yeah, Southern California especially, that's it will
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: be like if the head coaching job at Mountain Pine World,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: but I leave here to go do that, it's my home.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: You would not, I know, because that coach.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I could not.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: But I know he wants to be there eventually and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: goes there a lot when he has vacation, and he's
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: been awesome for ARKTS. So he's elevated the program to
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: a point where we now can go get a top
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: tier coach because of the success that's just recently been
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: had in the last five years to early days of
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: Sweet sixteen. Anything as of right the second no, nothing new, Okay,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: So when you have this podcast, who knows what's changed?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: But I know you though you're not just like waiting
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: on Twitter being like, ooh, any.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Updates, like have you called it? Have you texted him?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: That's a it's a weird if any of my I
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: wouldn't say bustling are friend friends, but if any of
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: my friends or even like buddies in the industry, if
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: they're like controversy, it's it's weird to even tech somebody music,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: unless you, like if you're an artist, if you're like
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: a super close friend. Let's say it didn't happen. But
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: let's say John Party uh got arrested for what's something
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: that's not bad, but it would be.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: Weird trespassing because he like jumped a fence at a ranch.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: I'd probably text loll to him that maybe too close
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: to him, but oh, bar fight. I don't know that
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: one too, like how you feeling? Maybe John parties that example,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: but it would be weird to text somebody who's been
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: like a little not a scandal, but something that's really
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: not my business. So I did text must, but I
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: don't text him. He's not gonna text me like updates,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: like live updates, like a like a real friend would.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: And I don't feel like I can share what he
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: has said to me because it's not said to be shared.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: And if I want to be somebody who can be
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: told something and not.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, spill it, it's too big news.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I I also don't know, like something could happen,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: and I won't know what's happening because I only talked
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: to him yesterday.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: So what I mean, what I saw was that he's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: had an interview scheduled.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: So this is what has.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: Been said publicly. There have been sources that said Must
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: have been looking for a new job. What I think
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: not what I know. I don't know this firsthand. But
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: what I think is that must is the kind of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: guy that's always looking for any opportunity. He's like keeping
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: his eyes open for any opportunity ever all the time.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter when lose, whin lose. He's always like,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: let's go, let's look, let's look around. Is there something
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: that would be more fitting for me? Or is there
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: something I could leverage to get a longer contract here.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: He must have just a businessman, sure, and a really
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: good basketball coach. So I don't fault him for that
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: because I would do the same thing. You know, it's business.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: There's loyalty, but it's business, so there's not really it's
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: like our company. I love our company. They've been great
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: to me for twenty years. But I also know the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: company tomorrow if something happened. So I'm loyal to them
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: to a point, but you always got to look out
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: for Number one. That being said, I know he loves
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: southern California, and we all have known as Arkansas fans
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: that that's what we're gonna lose him to eventually. He's
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: very nomadic in nature. Anyway, everybody's been. We know that's
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: where he wants to go. So you can't be mad
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: at somebody for going where. Personally, it makes the difference.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: And also, if you're a LA guy, you want to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: live in La, not Fayetteville. And yeah, attackers are higher
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: and Steff costs more, but he'll be okay. And also
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: it's like what fulfills you?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point, see a big difference between LA
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: and FA.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: I don't either. I'm just saying that all I did
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: text with him. Right now, It's twelve twenty on Thursday,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: April fourth. This podcast goes up today. Anything could change,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: anything could be different. I did text with him, we
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: did speak about it. Will I'm not going to share
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: what he said but I do have knowledge, and I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: hope he stays. People are like, he's already. It's it's irre, irre, irrutable, posible, irrefutable,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: one of the eras irritable. That's bowls my bows, Like
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: they like, you can't fix this. If he's almost yeah,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: maybe maybe that.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so good Mike, good.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: Job, buddy, But it is you know what, you know
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: what changes everything? Winning, That's what changes everything. And he
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: didn't like stab a kid or kick a dog. I
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: hope he stays. But if he's gonna go talk to
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: USC a place where he probably would like to go,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: that's not You gotta get over yourself people. I gotta
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: fight with somebody on Twitter yesterday, which I don't do
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: a whole lot. And he's like, man, if you're not
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: little at us, get the heck out of here. And
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: I'm like, first of all, he wasn't a razorback. He
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: came because a businescision. He may lead because of a
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: Busines decision. He makes the best decision for himself. And
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: he's like, I don't even want him here. If he
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to be here, that's the dumbest thing I
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: ever heard of my life.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 5: So if he comes back, then what does that guy?
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 8: Do? You know?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: What I mean? If we win, He's like, Oh, I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: knew all along.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: No, it's so dumb.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: I'm going to so here we go. I'm going to
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: campus next week to teach, teaching a couple of days
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: on campus, and I think it'll be settled by then.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: I think, muscle stay or go. May it already happened
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: by now? And then I think the new coaching search
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: starts or doesn't. But let's say it does start. That's
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: interesting because who's it going to be. Is it Chris Beard?
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: It don't Miss reportedly got an extension at all Miss
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: but hasn't signed it yet. Whatever the heck that means?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: Is it Jerome Tang?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: At Kansas State?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: That's our guy, that Jerome Man.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: Didn't have a great year last year. But you really
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: can't judge it on one year because mustn't have a
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: great year last year. But Tang's only been a head
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: coach for two years, where must has had definitely.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: A bigger But he had a great year first year
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: as a head coach.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: So we shall see. But hopefully I'm there if they get.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: To announce a new coach, what if they announce you
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 5: as a new go, hold on, hold.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: On, would you go to the press conference? Would you
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: sit at the table like behind must?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, answer both of those. They announced me as
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: a new coach. Here's what I would do. I would
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: take I would be paid except ten grand a years
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: my salary, but they have to give the other four
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: million to me for nil money. And I'm gonna get
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: all the best players. I'm still gonna do this job.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: So I'm still gonna be oh god, choking buy baseball cards.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, dude, you're not taking the million, the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: four million.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: I'm using that to build a championship.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Smart smart, And then if.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: I'm there, I'll go to the press conference. I want
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: it that. I've also been talking to the athletic director
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: a little bit. I know Hunter, you're a check pretty well.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: We met Hunter. We were there, Yeah, I knew I
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: did them. Yeah I met Hunter, So it'll be like
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: we met him, already knewhim.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Go, I'm cool and Kevin and Mike and I text.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: With him a little bit too, just kind of getting
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: the field, that lay of the land. It's amazing how
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: much respect quote finger quote you get when you're a
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: big donor.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they respect you a lot.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: Or and now that they know because we Eddie I
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: went and did that show and Hunter and I don't
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: think Hunter knew what even I know he knows him
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: on the radio, he knows whatever, podcast whatever. But Eddie
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: and I did the show in fab and we sold.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: It out super quick. We raised money, man, and.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Then we gave them all the money. We'd take any
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: money raised money. And he watched the show and I
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: think it was like, oh, this is what they do.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, people care. It's weird, but they do.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: And then we walk off for like I know, we
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: can't believe it either. Anyway, that's my drama right now.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: Sports wise, I just think it'd be good if like
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: there was a press conference and I want to introduce him,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: and you introduce him, and then you sit right next
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: to him as he says whatever he's going to say,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: and then after he's done with that, you answered the question.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Just then I take questions too direct. Yeah, I would
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: do that. I would like to do that even with
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: if mustas exactly what he's saying, our new coach that's
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: been here before, and we'll take questions and then he goes.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: But to ask him a question. You've also got asked
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: me a question after he's done.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Correct or you don't have a question.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: Or you don't get to ask one. Otherwise nobody cares
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: about me.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: Very unselfish of you.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, that's really on my mind right now.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. You're going through a lot right now.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: I don't I'm getting a bit icaracy though.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: That's a big word. You might have to define that
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Are you familiar with story Vicarus? Uh, refresh my memory?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: I probably do a refreshment memory. Chris flew too close
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: to the sun, and Chris, don't fly too close to
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: the sun. His mom said that dad maybe maybe also
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: you may see whose dad was. Oh these are gods,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: these are Do you think somebody can just fly there?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Man, I don't know, said Licorice. Dad liquor Is told
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: the son Liquor like, don't fly, don't.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Fly so high, don't fly too close to the sun.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: He got too close to the situation close son, and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: his wings melted and he fell and died. Oh man,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: So where I don't want to get too close to
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: the sun is I don't want to get too close
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: close close to the program because if I don't like
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: somebody like a coach or luckily right now I'm good
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: like a coach or athletic director. I don't want to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: have to feel differently about the program because of a
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: personal situation. Yeah, so I tried to be I try
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: to make it an inicuracy situation. Good is zus' Dadalus?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Are we sure that's not Justus's nickname?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Like the bar daddy Dedalus?
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: So Dadalist said Chares, don't fly too close to the sign,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: and then he did and he fell because he melted.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: I don't want my wings to mount because I love
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: I love Arkansas sports, and I never wanted to be
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: personal where I hate somebody, you know, So then I
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: like the program last root against him.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: But Chris Berre will be interesting, that would be very interesting.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: I would hate. I hate to hear what I would
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: have to say about when he went to that trouble
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: at Texas. So we'd probably delete all that because I
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: don't know what I said, because I just don't like
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: Texas the monkey. No, was he the monkey coach? Yeah,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: that's that's football, that's football. He was the one that
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: got told for for uh, it's domestic. Yeah, it was
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: white and he he got fired at Texas, right right, right,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: right right right, but it all got dropped. Yes, and
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: if he's a Arkansas coach, I'm be like, this is
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: a misunderstanding. M hm.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: So who's a monkey?
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: I think it was a coordinator at Texas.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 4: When they went to his house and there was a monkey.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: The monkey that bit somebody during Halloween.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a party at his house and there's
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: a monkey and it bits someone.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me google remember this vaguely now.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that was in Texas.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: Nobody say it. I was gonna google Texas coach monkey.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: It is Jeff Banks, assistant football coach. They were sued. Yeah, okay,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: you need to be a baller. And I have a monkey.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm telling my uncle had a monkey bit my mom.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Jeff Banks, Texas special teams coaches girlfriend allegedly bites child
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: in Halloween.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 5: Whatever, that's crazy.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're done. By the time you hear this, it
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: all could be different. That's how my feelings are right now.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: Go Purdue read wors are freaking cakes.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna chill a little bit this weekend.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: So somebody's getting a freaking cake.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: Okay, Oh you already know what kind we.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 4: Like, right, Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna dish those out
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: one at a time, like one a.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: Week or yeah, well I would say we need one,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: say Monday. I'd say one maybe Monday. But where he's
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: gonna be gone with me in Arkansas? They might have
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: a nice kitchen in Arkansas. You got it? At least
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: due to the next week, because next week's a maybe
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: our last week to do the show. Yeah, if you
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: do only do one next week, got to do three
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: the next week. I'll make it happen. Okay. Cool.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: Hey, Also to my son, wants to remind you about
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: the Caleff battle card.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: I have it. Problem is is he not there right
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: as of now. But if must leaves, which you don't
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: know the situation, Caleff may go like I'm transferring. Yeah,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: but I text Caleb and said we're gonna come. I
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: got all. The plan is to go meet up and
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: get him to sign the stuff.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Cool.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: All right, that's it, Thank you guys, have a great day.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: And Eddie below to whistle.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: I got you.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: Here we go.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's a crossing guard.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: Bye.