Latest / What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie? / #293: Influencer (2022)
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- 0:06Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
- 0:10You want to live in Taiwan? Popper No Welcome to watch at
- 0:16least three Scary Movie, The podcast where we talk about the
- 0:18good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd, and all of our favorite
- 0:21and least favorite scary movies. Because we believe every horror
- 0:24movie rightfully has its fan base.
- 0:26Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
- 0:28My name is Jesse and the secret talking about not Taiwan but
- 0:32Thailand and not White Lotus but influencer Travis.
- 0:37Since you did not watch season 3 of White Lotus, Parker Posey
- 0:40does a very terrible North Carolina accent and consistently
- 0:44refers to Thailand as Taiwan and tells her daughter no.
- 0:47I don't know. So that was a quote from that.
- 0:49OK. I was like, did I miss
- 0:50something? Larry started saying that.
- 0:52I didn't write a quote down and there weren't any quotes on
- 0:55IMDb, so I just went with my heart and my heart went with
- 0:59Parker Posey. Parker Posey will usually do
- 1:02that. OK, so bad news.
- 1:05We forgot to do a poll yesterday because we were watching
- 1:10together. That's true.
- 1:11And that took over our brains. They did, and if you've seen
- 1:15that, you'll understand. Yeah.
- 1:17So we're just going to go ahead and hop right into influencer
- 1:20after I remind you guys that our TB or Not to Be came out last
- 1:23weekend. We talked about another Wolf
- 1:24Cop. It was weird.
- 1:26It's a weird episode, it really is.
- 1:28I really don't know how else to describe that.
- 1:30Oh my God, we didn't even do our titular question to or not to
- 1:33be. Sure, you can do it.
- 1:37You can watch another wolf cop if you want to.
- 1:40If you do, nobody. Will stop you.
- 1:43Well, I might, I might go. I'm not going to stop anybody
- 1:45from. Watching it, I might if it's
- 1:46another situation where we're with say, our friend Joe at his
- 1:51Airbnb and he tries to put on our terrible 2 beer not to be a
- 1:54movie and we have to say Joe no. Oh, no, that's true.
- 1:59Yeah, Joe does. Joe did that.
- 2:00He did that with. Octagames.
- 2:03Octagames. Yeah, fuck you, Joe.
- 2:06Go. I'm kidding.
- 2:07I love Joe, OK? OK, so The Secret of my
- 2:12Influencer. Influencer premiered October
- 2:1516th, 2022 at the Brooklyn Horror Film Festival and a wide
- 2:19Internet release of May 26th, 2023.
- 2:22We watched it on shutter, but you can also watch it on
- 2:24Philoplex, AMC Plus, YouTube primetime, Sling TV Premium,
- 2:28Prime premium, YouTube TV Premium, or you can rent it from
- 2:30Fandango at home. Google TV.
- 2:32Your April TV. We have.
- 2:34So it's a watchable movie? Yes.
- 2:35And part of the reason that I think it's a watchable movie is
- 2:37because Influencers, its sequel, just started its premiere run at
- 2:43festivals in July and will be coming to shutter later this
- 2:47year. Cool.
- 2:48Which is part of why I chose it for the show.
- 2:52I'm curious to know how you even do a sequel to this.
- 2:54Well, spoiler not spoiler. You're here on the show
- 2:58listening to this. CW is not actually killed, so.
- 3:02OK. So she'll find some way off the
- 3:06island, I guess, because this one takes place in France.
- 3:09France. France.
- 3:10Are you sure it's the same characters as what they said?
- 3:12Yeah, it's Cassandra, not as CW. OK, all right.
- 3:16Whoa. You know, there's always a way.
- 3:19There's if you want it hard enough.
- 3:21This was written by Tesh Gutikanda and Curtis David
- 3:24Harder, directed by Curtis David Harder, music by Avery Kentis,
- 3:29and there wasn't really special effects makeup to do.
- 3:32But I did actually find out that there was a deep fake designer
- 3:36for this movie, which seems really important.
- 3:38That seems, yeah, you need that. And that was done by Zach Adder.
- 3:42OK starring Emily Tennant is Madison, Rory J Saber is Ryan
- 3:47Cassandra not as CW and Sarah Canning as Jessica Travis.
- 3:51It's time for her favorite game budget or bug Ted.
- 3:56This is a bug, Ted. I'm gonna agree in that I don't
- 4:00even have the budget for it. That's not surprising.
- 4:03There's not really an opening box office for it either.
- 4:06OK. Worldwide it's grossed about
- 4:07226,000. IMDb score 6.2 out of 10.
- 4:11That's a better worldwide gross than I would have expected for
- 4:14this, honestly. Yes, OK, 2022 we every time we
- 4:19do a movie from 2022, we have to talk about what a banger year
- 4:222022 was. You're fucked.
- 4:23So I'm just trying to find common threads and different
- 4:26themes. And the theme that felt most
- 4:28appropriate with influencer was just people trying to get
- 4:32finance. I don't know Pearl's going to be
- 4:35here. As is X.
- 4:37As is. Oh, they were both they.
- 4:38Were both in 2022, so the first one is X Oh yeah which released
- 4:42March 18th 2022. Budget of 1,000,000.
- 4:45Worldwide gross of 14,000,000. IMDb of 6.5 out of 10.
- 4:48God, you know the biggest shock is the fact that 824 released a
- 4:52budget. I know I believe that and we
- 4:56just talked about Pearl, but I'm going to go ahead and run
- 4:58through those stats again real quick.
- 4:59Pearl released September 16th 2022.
- 5:02Didn't release the budget on that but it made a world where
- 5:04it goes to 9 point. 8,500,007 point O out of 10 on IMDb.
- 5:09Wait, what was excess rating? Six point that's.
- 5:12Fucked up. Fuck that.
- 5:13No, I know people like Pearl but fuck that.
- 5:17Do you want to know what the third movie I have is?
- 5:20Yeah. Nope.
- 5:23Yeah, I guess they're kind. Of because they're trying to,
- 5:24yeah, they're trying to get blue Jean on video and sell it to
- 5:28Oprah. It's just.
- 5:30Yeah, they are trying to do that right.
- 5:32Yeah, man, they were supposed to be humble.
- 5:35They're like, you know what, We just trying to be out here
- 5:37taking care of our horses. I don't think Keke Palmer's
- 5:40character was trying to be humble.
- 5:41She wasn't, but I can't remember the other dude's name.
- 5:44He was. So no, it came out live. 22nd
- 5:482022 Budget of 68,000,000. World Breakers of 171,000,000.
- 5:52IMDb 6.8 out of 10. OK, that's that's yeah, that's a
- 5:56good movie. I like that one.
- 5:58One tagline. OK.
- 6:00Be careful who you follow. That's pretty good.
- 6:03That's a good one. Yeah, we have our work cut out
- 6:06for us. We do.
- 6:08This is going to be a tough, funny thing.
- 6:09Because that's a good, good tagline.
- 6:12That is too good. Honestly, it could discourage.
- 6:17I have very little fun facts. I even tried looking up
- 6:21interviews and I had a hard time with that.
- 6:22So all I've got is one single little snippet from the IMDb
- 6:26trivia page. Oh boy.
- 6:29What is it? The voice overs from Madison's
- 6:31vlogs were not actually Emily Tennant's voice.
- 6:35That was all AI. That was AI.
- 6:38Why would they do that? Because because CW later does
- 6:43like the voice altering AI to keep her ruse going for a little
- 6:47bit. That's weird.
- 6:51I don't like that. So OK.
- 6:53That's all I have, which I guess means that we just jumped to
- 6:56talking about it real quick. OK, Yeah.
- 6:59All right. So I'll kick it off with our
- 7:01good stuff. I think one of the things I like
- 7:03the most about this movie is I like those moments where we see
- 7:07CW squirm when they, like, put her in these uncomfortable
- 7:11situations of trying. Like they they're getting close
- 7:13to figuring out that there's something off about the whole
- 7:16situation with Madison. Yeah.
- 7:19But yeah, like that's that's the heart of the movie for me.
- 7:23I like that. That's what works the most.
- 7:27I also liked seeing her meet like somebody that kind of
- 7:31outsmarts her, like, picks up on her creepiness, like whenever we
- 7:35see what's her name, Jesse. Jessica.
- 7:38Jessica yeah. Like, I just like those moments.
- 7:42I like it whenever you get a villain and you can see that
- 7:45they're, like, really good at what they do and they're
- 7:46confident. But then we see this one person
- 7:48come up and just like, thwart everything that they like have
- 7:51perfected. Also, I kind of love that we
- 7:55have no back story on Madison's character either.
- 7:59We have exactly as much information as CW has, so.
- 8:04Oh, what the fuck is Madison's background that she can just
- 8:08like, make Spears and fish and all of that shit on this island
- 8:11and stay out there for a month? That's one thing.
- 8:14I wish we had something now. Like they make it like it's so
- 8:18obvious that there's something there.
- 8:21Like, I mean, people die there all the time from her.
- 8:25So like, why? How was she able to survive?
- 8:28I think CW is just assuming that all influencers are dumb, ditzy
- 8:35airheads and that they can possibly figure out a way to
- 8:38survive on their own. She is making those assumptions,
- 8:40and because we're along for the ride with her, we're just like,
- 8:43whatever. But she ends up actually being
- 8:46really able to take care of herself out there.
- 8:48And I think that's a really interesting thing to think about
- 8:51with it, yeah. Kind of speaking on that though,
- 8:56one of the other things I really enjoyed is I liked seeing CW
- 8:59play on the insecurities of these influencers, how she was
- 9:03able to get Jessicas attention because she mentioned that she's
- 9:06a follower. Yes.
- 9:07So that right there, no matter how off put she was by her
- 9:11introduction and all the red flags, the fact that it was a
- 9:14follower, she's like, okay, playing on that insecurity of
- 9:17wanting to be desired or like, you know.
- 9:20Well then she also mentions having that villa that's
- 9:23overlooking the sea and it's really beautiful and she wants
- 9:26to take advantage of that too. Yeah, yeah.
- 9:28So, you know, there's like little things like that that
- 9:30made this movie enjoyable for me.
- 9:33Yeah, and I, I like the way the story structure works because we
- 9:38have her finding her for like, we go along for the ride with
- 9:42Madison. At the beginning, we think
- 9:43Madison's going to be our person.
- 9:44And then credits cut 20 minutes into the movie.
- 9:49Madison's on an island, We're left to believe she's dead.
- 9:51Then we go through following CW and see how she finds her
- 9:55targets. Like we see her looking for her
- 9:57next person that's in Thailand, and we see her like having to
- 10:02try these different tactics to get their defenses down and how
- 10:06she's going to do that. And then we see her fuck up, we
- 10:10see her make those mistakes, and then she's got to figure out how
- 10:12she's going to clean up. And then just when we think
- 10:15everything's done, Oh my God, Madison's still alive and now
- 10:18it's a revenge movie. Except that part doesn't last
- 10:20long enough for me. It's Yeah, that's just the
- 10:22ending, really. Yeah.
- 10:23And maybe that'll be part of the sequel.
- 10:26I. Don't know.
- 10:26I don't know. I tried to look very little at
- 10:28it. All I know is that Cassandra nod
- 10:31is definitely back and then it's in France, OK.
- 10:34Yeah. All right.
- 10:34That's all we need to know. Yes, All right.
- 10:36Is. That all right for your good.
- 10:38Yes, OK. Also the soundtrack folks.
- 10:41Yeah, Jesse listens to the soundtrack all the time.
- 10:44OK, so the bad stuff for me, this is the it's hard for me to
- 10:49relate to these people because these are everybody in this
- 10:52movie is somebody I hate, honestly.
- 10:55Like there's not like really any redeemable qualities about any
- 10:58of these people, which, you know, it just it, I don't attach
- 11:03to anybody. I don't care what happens to
- 11:05these people. It's just the only thing that
- 11:07drives me with this movie is like, I want to see her fell,
- 11:11but that's it. Like I don't care if these
- 11:13people survive. I don't care about Madison
- 11:15really either because they're all like these vapid like
- 11:18influencer type people. Like they are portrayed as like
- 11:21the stereotypical influencers that you think.
- 11:23Of I don't think that's true with Madison.
- 11:25We don't know enough about her is what I want to say.
- 11:27But like, I think that it's like you think that there is like a
- 11:30little bit because she shows moments when they're on the
- 11:33beach and like, well, you can take it like I, you know,
- 11:35honestly, it would be kind of a relief to not have like this
- 11:38lifestyle anymore. But at the same time, she's
- 11:40she's. Still doing.
- 11:41It yeah, well, not, not just that just the way that she was.
- 11:43She's like, oh, they would they would know that I'm gone.
- 11:46Like she's she still has that self importance to her.
- 11:48Like she still is super arrogant and I don't like that that's not
- 11:53an attractive like feature to me.
- 11:55Like I just whenever I see people like that, I just like,
- 11:58fuck you. I don't give a shit whatever.
- 12:01You know another thing, like I feel like the first 3rd of the
- 12:06movie feels like a bunch of moments.
- 12:08It's like it's not a lot of story happening.
- 12:11We just see like a bunch of things play out and it's like
- 12:13crammed with like music laying over a lot of it and it's just
- 12:15like it's not a lot of story happening.
- 12:17We just see a lot of just things happening and I don't know it's
- 12:22it doesn't really suck the end until about 2/3 into the movie
- 12:26really. My bads are that we need names.
- 12:31We need names to be said out loud a lot.
- 12:35Sooner I didn't. I had no name for The CW
- 12:38character. I only knew it from pulling up
- 12:41IMDb. And then also, and there's a lot
- 12:46of the story that relies on us being able to read what's
- 12:49happening on the phone screen and we don't get enough long
- 12:52enough, clear enough shots of it.
- 12:54Yeah, that's true. You're right.
- 12:57I am and we have a decent size screen TV.
- 13:00It's not like we're trying to watch it like, you know, on a
- 13:03laptop or something. And we're like, wait, what's
- 13:05that Like? It's just the, the shots were
- 13:07just not for something that was meant to be super important,
- 13:10like we weren't getting enough of.
- 13:11It it needed to be like those movies where like, they'll show
- 13:15somebody on the phone, but then like an overlay of like what's
- 13:17on the phone next to them, you know?
- 13:19Yeah, that would have been beneficial for this.
- 13:22Right. What's your ugly?
- 13:24I just the whole like insanity of like the influencer lifestyle
- 13:29in full display here. It's just a lot of like self
- 13:32absorbed people for the most part.
- 13:34And I think that that's kind of ugly.
- 13:36Also Ryan being raped. Yeah, I put date rape from.
- 13:40My ugly. Like a.
- 13:41Problem. No.
- 13:42Yeah, that was just really not cool.
- 13:45And they? Need to be done.
- 13:47Yeah, and I feel like they I way too hard to hand wave it away
- 13:52like Oh well they didn't actually have sex.
- 13:54Like and he's like it's fine cuz I've never forgotten a shag.
- 13:58It's just not. She's naked on top of him.
- 14:01She rolled a cock like she touched him.
- 14:04She was all over him and it's implied that she drugged him.
- 14:08It's bad. It's not.
- 14:09Implied. We see it, Yeah, We see her drop
- 14:10the. Ball in there.
- 14:11I missed that. Yeah.
- 14:13So OK, yeah. No, it's explicitly shown that
- 14:17she drugged him. Date rape, Yeah.
- 14:18For sure. Yeah.
- 14:20I mean, OK, I think we knocked that one out right there.
- 14:24Yeah, absurd. Well, I think it's funny.
- 14:28I, I know you like the title drop part, but for me it feels
- 14:31like we're like stepping into a music video because of like the
- 14:35way that the names come up. It's like, you know how like
- 14:37whenever a music video starts, like you have the song title in
- 14:39like the bottom right corner or whatever like that, Like that's
- 14:41what the font and like the whole overlay looked like.
- 14:44Also, I'm Jessica's like in a cult, right?
- 14:48She's like a cult leader. She's a cult leader, yeah.
- 14:50Like for sure. Or like she's like a high level
- 14:52member. She's like, I put MLM cult on
- 14:55there. It's something like that going
- 14:56on. Just her messages say like
- 15:00repeatedly join our team like she's a fucking cult leader.
- 15:03Yes, and also like the all white, which I think that was
- 15:07smart because I was trying to pay attention to the things CW
- 15:10does to like try and mirror her targets.
- 15:13And she she starts wearing all white or mostly white when she
- 15:17realizes Jessica's whole thing, which why didn't she look at
- 15:21Jessica's page a little bit more closely before the first time of
- 15:24like trying to lure her. Yeah, I don't know, but I
- 15:29thought that that was funny, that she's just like cold.
- 15:34Mine was that at the very beginning, Madison is doing that
- 15:39like vlog video, you know, and she just posts it directly
- 15:43without doing any kind of editing or anything.
- 15:45And I'm calling bullshit on that.
- 15:46Oh yeah, yeah. That's there's no way, that's
- 15:48not how that works. There's so much editing that
- 15:50goes into videos. Same with like the pictures like
- 15:53with Ryan when he takes the picture of what's your face
- 15:55like? Oh, this is perfect.
- 15:56Like no people slap like filters.
- 15:58They do photo edits and show like that color correct.
- 16:00They do all kinds of shit to get that stuff like just right.
- 16:03You don't just like take a a bland ass picture with your
- 16:05smartphone camera and be like there we go.
- 16:07Fucking masterpiece. But you know he's artistic
- 16:10because he's British and has long hair.
- 16:12Well, yeah, he's got them high socks too.
- 16:15Yeah, you don't do that look, unless you know your shit about
- 16:19photography. Exactly.
- 16:20Yeah. So what would you rate it?
- 16:24I'd give this A-77. Yeah, I like this movie.
- 16:27It's it's good. I like it.
- 16:28Yeah, I really like it too. I7 is actually where I land with
- 16:31it. So we have an average of seven.
- 16:33I think it's it's fun. I like the like influencers sub
- 16:37genre of horror. You're big on.
- 16:39That I yeah. And I think that this one, I
- 16:41just really like it. I like the vibe of it and I'm
- 16:43really excited for the sequel. OK, well let's get on into it
- 16:47then. OK OK, so we begin this movie
- 16:51with an island and a slow zoom. A woman is passed out on the
- 16:54show. Then we cut to a woman travel
- 16:57vlogging in Thailand. She is talking about how great
- 16:59it is to meet the locals and see things that she's never seen
- 17:02before. And travelling is just really
- 17:04great for getting you out of your shell.
- 17:05It's just. Like a montage of her on her
- 17:06phone the entire time not interacting with the locals.
- 17:08Exactly, like she's so lonely the whole time she posts this
- 17:13video without editing it and gets tons of hits immediately.
- 17:18Popular guys, okay. She is Facetiming her friend
- 17:20Jay, who is. I don't know if that's her
- 17:25friend or if it's more Ryan's friend that they just also are
- 17:27friends. I think it's like a mutual
- 17:30friend. They're all friends.
- 17:32Yeah, I think it's probably her friend first.
- 17:35And she's just upset like because Ryan no showed on the
- 17:38vacation, he's like, but he got you that super cool brand deal.
- 17:42He can give me an all expenses paid trip to Thailand and not
- 17:46yet released face care. Like you should be grateful for
- 17:49what you have. Like you're not listening to
- 17:51her. You're kind of being a bad
- 17:52friend. Oh.
- 17:53Yeah, that's that tracks for this type of yeah thing here.
- 17:57So she goes to a bar and she's like, trying to take a picture
- 18:00of herself for, you know, social media because it's her job.
- 18:04And then this man offers to take the photos, and he scooches on
- 18:07down the bar. And she is doing this thing that
- 18:12most women have had to do at some point or another.
- 18:16Like where do you have the hard cut off of not being rude enough
- 18:21to get yourself in a dangerous situation versus not wanting to
- 18:24invite this conversation? The thing is, I didn't think
- 18:27that this guy was being bad, though.
- 18:29I don't think he had bad intentions.
- 18:30I think he really was just trying to chat with somebody at
- 18:32the bar. It doesn't matter because you
- 18:34never know and it's an unwelcome conversation and he's making her
- 18:37uncomfortable and it's very obvious that he's making her
- 18:39uncomfortable. I guess I can understand that,
- 18:41but then like so do you just not talk to women at the bar?
- 18:46I mean, you learn the body language when you're making them
- 18:50uncomfortable and you don't shift down closer and I.
- 18:52Guess that's talking to them. I guess that's fair.
- 18:54That sucks for that guy. He's just trying to have a
- 18:56conversation. I don't know.
- 18:58The way he keeps talking about how he's in Thailand for the
- 19:00women is not, I don't think, yeah, I don't think he's just
- 19:04trying to have a conversation. OK.
- 19:08So that's when CW sees this and she interjects and manages to
- 19:14get her away. Yeah, it bells her out.
- 19:16So they're walking and talking and Madison talks about how
- 19:20she's kind of bummed about being solo and only sitting by the
- 19:24pool. And CW is like, well, I can show
- 19:25you around. So the next day they go for an
- 19:28early morning hike and we see CW is avoiding the camera.
- 19:32She says that she's mostly a drifter, so it's kind of fun for
- 19:35her to have, you know, somebody to hang out with while she's
- 19:39while she's in Thailand. Yeah, She notices that Madison
- 19:43is watching like this group of guys that are just kind of like
- 19:47having a good time. So we see now they're just
- 19:49partying with those two dudes and they're having a good time.
- 19:53And the night's over. They're walking back to
- 19:56Madison's hotel, and they leave her there.
- 19:59And then she gets back to her hotel room and sees that it has
- 20:02been broken into. Yes, her passport has been taken
- 20:05and presumably like money and stuff has been taken as well.
- 20:08So I have a question, When did she have time to do this?
- 20:10When did this happen? That's a good point because all
- 20:13we got was like an elephant and food montage.
- 20:16She was with her the entire time.
- 20:18Yeah, like the the montage implies that they were spending
- 20:21time together, not like, hey, I'm going to go do this, I'll
- 20:23meet you back here in a few minutes type thing.
- 20:27Yeah. And I don't know.
- 20:28And I know that this is done this way to like, misdirect the
- 20:31audience. But that's weird because I feel
- 20:33like, was this supposed to be a misdirect?
- 20:36I think we were kind of in on this from the beginning, right?
- 20:41I don't know. I don't remember what I thought
- 20:44the first time watching this. OK.
- 20:46But CW does help her really fill out the forms to get a new
- 20:49passport, She said. It can be expedited.
- 20:51It'll take about two weeks. And Madison's just really upset
- 20:54because she doesn't want to be there for another two weeks.
- 20:57And this is when she calls Ryan. She's Facetiming in and he's
- 21:03like, all right, I won't be able to pick you up at the airport.
- 21:06So you're going to have to take a cab home.
- 21:07Wow. You bail on the vacation and
- 21:10you're not even going to come pick her up from the airport.
- 21:12So like I was like, this is so you to like have your passport
- 21:17and your room broken into and all of your shit stolen.
- 21:19How dare you? And I'm glad Madison's like, you
- 21:22know what? I haven't wanted to do this for
- 21:24a while, but I think we're breaking up.
- 21:25And he's like, no, we're not. She just hangs up.
- 21:28She causes the laptop. Yeah, so we get another travel
- 21:33montage. Is is followed by her stopping
- 21:36at CW's place. Yep, because CW offered to let
- 21:39her crash at her place during all of this.
- 21:41Yes, and what we find out later is that CW rented this villa
- 21:45with the credit card that she stole from Madison.
- 21:48So they are, it's this beautiful villa and it's like in the
- 21:52jungle, but it's also on the sea.
- 21:53And it's just, it's really nice. And she is saying that she is
- 22:01going to like Madison has some idea for the next day.
- 22:04NCW. He's like, actually I have a
- 22:05surprise for you. So the next day they get on this
- 22:08little motorboat and Madison, who has just seen this giant
- 22:14villa by the sea, sees this little tiny motorboat and goes,
- 22:19wow, you have your own boat. I know.
- 22:22Wow. Yeah, like I feel like need like
- 22:25a whole yacht. Yeah, like this is not the thing
- 22:29to be impressed with. Yeah.
- 22:31So they ride into the ocean and they arrive at this island.
- 22:36And when she arrives there, she notices that it looks like
- 22:40there's been like a campfire there before.
- 22:42And then she sees a tree trunk and it's got some tally marks on
- 22:45it. 7 Seven of them, Yeah. Shit.
- 22:48And she has no cell signal and CW says you're free.
- 22:53So they're drinking wine by the fire that night and they start
- 22:56talking about scary stories. And Madison is talking about a
- 23:00version of me that existed somewhere, if I was ever in the
- 23:03Girl Scouts, about this girl who used to always tell the Super
- 23:06creepy, scary stories and would say if she saw this now that
- 23:09you're probably gonna kill me out here.
- 23:11I like this where we see CW actually just full on reveal her
- 23:16intentions and she just doesn't believe.
- 23:18Yeah, Madison just laughs. And she was like, no, you
- 23:21noticed if I was gone and CW's like, not if I took over your
- 23:24account. How are you gonna fucking do
- 23:26that? How are you gonna fucking do
- 23:28that? Yeah.
- 23:30And then we see it's the next morning, CW is just getting on
- 23:34the boat and driving off while Madison's sleeping on the beach
- 23:38still. Yeah.
- 23:38And then this is where we get the title drop.
- 23:41And then three weeks later, she's faking Madison's blog and
- 23:46she's saying that Thailand has just been so beautiful that not
- 23:50only is she extending her vacation, but she's just going
- 23:52to stay indefinitely and also going to take a break from
- 23:55social media. But she's still doing her social
- 23:57media posts. This is yeah.
- 23:59Like she's, I think trying to taper it off, much as we are
- 24:05doing with Talia's Prednisone right now.
- 24:07I see tapering that way people don't get too suspicious too
- 24:10fast. No, that makes sense.
- 24:12Yeah, and she's got like a little blonde wig and a big sun
- 24:15hat and like, pastel colored clothing, basically enough that
- 24:20Shea can be passable for Madison with like, the Photoshop
- 24:24overlay. I know she's withdrawing money
- 24:26from the ATM but you need a pin number for that.
- 24:31I wonder because we also see her calling the bank and increasing
- 24:36her credit limit, so I wonder if she was able to, like with all
- 24:40of Madison's documents, convince them that it was her on the
- 24:43phone and like reset the PIN and everything like that.
- 24:46Could be. Yeah, she is good with
- 24:49technology and credit card fraud.
- 24:51So this is what we've learned about CW.
- 24:54She is watching crowds. She's trying to figure out who
- 24:57her next Mark's going to be. She goes to Instagram and see
- 25:00who who's in Bangkok right now, who who is not from Bangkok but
- 25:05is in Bangkok and she finds Jessica.
- 25:09So she follows her around in person, not subtly enough I
- 25:15feel. No, she's just like straight up
- 25:16telling her in a fucking cab, you know, Like, yeah, it's
- 25:19pretty like out there. And she has the same kind of
- 25:23general approach that she did for Madison, where she's
- 25:25assuming, like, this is an influencer who looks more
- 25:28confident on her social media than she actually is.
- 25:31And she's like, oh, that little statue that you're picking up,
- 25:34that's a fake. There's a place down the street
- 25:36that's like real jade, and it'll be a better deal.
- 25:38And she goes, no, this is just like some shit for my sister.
- 25:41She won't care. She won't know the difference.
- 25:42Yeah, and I like that, you know. That's real.
- 25:46Yeah. She's like, I don't fucking
- 25:47care. This is just what it is.
- 25:49All right, Thanks. Bye.
- 25:50And then this is where CW realizes she needs to do
- 25:54actually a little bit more research like this.
- 25:56Makes me wonder how many times she's done this that like the
- 25:59same approach has worked for all of them.
- 26:01Probably all of them I I doubt she's had much struggle with
- 26:04this honestly. And this is where she learns
- 26:06Jessica is higher up in an MLM cult type thing.
- 26:11Yeah, yeah, that's the difference here.
- 26:13She's normally been dealing with influencers, but now she's
- 26:16dealing with a straight up cult leader.
- 26:17Yeah, she's dealing with the Hun.
- 26:21So she runs into her at the hotel again, and this time she
- 26:24takes more of a fawning approach to where you're like, she was
- 26:28like, I was just so embarrassed and I'm such a big fan of yours,
- 26:32and I'm just lonely here. And I've got this big old villa
- 26:36by the sea. And Jessica's, like, better see,
- 26:40you say. And so this is where she's,
- 26:44like, invited her to hang out. Like, Jessica's invited her to
- 26:47hang out with her. And hanging out with Jessica
- 26:49apparently is just watching her get photos taken.
- 26:52And also like you can see while she's like photo taking, she
- 26:56steals her hotel room key. Yep.
- 27:00And then Jessica is like, oh hey, I have this sponsor
- 27:02meeting. They've been handing me about
- 27:04it, but I'll meet up with you after.
- 27:06And during the sponsorship meeting, CW breaks into her room
- 27:11and takes passport, travel, etcetera.
- 27:14All of that we know. And she sees Jessica going back
- 27:19up to her hotel room and she's just sitting there waiting for
- 27:21the call. And then we take the same trip
- 27:24to the villa again. But when they get there, there's
- 27:28rose petals and candles. And this is the most confusing
- 27:33break in in the world. Yeah, dude, OK.
- 27:36How? How many people have the fucking
- 27:37key to this place? How did he have the key to this
- 27:40place? He wasn't there before.
- 27:42This place is not locked. I get the feeling that Madison
- 27:47has been afforded very little privacy since starting this
- 27:50relationship with Ryan because, as CW later says, like the.
- 27:53You found where this villa was because you've been tracking
- 27:57Madison's spending. Yeah.
- 27:59And so she figured he figured out that she was renting this
- 28:01villa and he probably just like showed something like I'm her
- 28:05manager and her boyfriend whatever and thought a copy of
- 28:08the key. Probably, Yeah.
- 28:10Yeah. He's got like rose petals all
- 28:11over the place, and he's got a nice little dinner made.
- 28:14And then there's no Madison there.
- 28:16It's just Jessica and CW. Yeah, and she has to kind of
- 28:20like cover. She was like, you know, she'd
- 28:24like, I was paying her to stay here, like it was on her card,
- 28:26but I was paying her to stay here.
- 28:28She broke up with you. That's weird that you're here in
- 28:34the morning. She is on her laptop with her
- 28:37little headphones in and everything, and Ryan comes
- 28:39downstairs and everything's kind of awkward and she uses the
- 28:43computer to call Ryan from Madison's number and kind of
- 28:48uses a voice modulator to tell him to leave.
- 28:51Yeah, and then he refuses because he insists that this has
- 28:54to be done face to face. Dude, this guy is such bad news.
- 28:58Like he's such a, like that's. What I'm talking about, man,
- 29:00everybody in. The yeah, he's like you like
- 29:04Madison got rid of all of the toxic people in her life because
- 29:07I don't think she's going to go back to influencing either,
- 29:09like. She needs to get that friend out
- 29:11of her life too. Yes she is just not talk to Jay
- 29:15anymore as well because I could see Jay like Oh my God, what if
- 29:20that's what the sequel is? It's like Jay has convinced her
- 29:22to like write a tell all novel about everything that happened
- 29:25and he's like star fucking. She's going to she's going to be
- 29:29the guy from Saw 3D where he's just doing news stories and
- 29:34hand. Except not lying.
- 29:36Except not lying. Maybe she embellishes a little
- 29:38bit, but, you know, she doesn't really have to.
- 29:40Yeah. So we see they are all three of
- 29:43them, just like hanging out like Jessica's like, hey, I'm going
- 29:45to go do this. You guys want to go and see the
- 29:47way you he's trying to get off and he's like, no, it's fine.
- 29:49But then Ryan wants to go. She's like, hey, let's all go
- 29:52together. Yeah, She doesn't want Ryan to
- 29:54be alone with Jessica because she was not expecting Ryan to
- 29:56show up, doesn't know what he's going to say.
- 29:59That can mess up her story that she told Jessica.
- 30:01Right. So they're out and about, and
- 30:05Jessica's just listening to Ryan talk about what happened with
- 30:10Madison. Like he's like, yeah, no, we had
- 30:12this fight. She came out here, You know,
- 30:14it's just things are kind of weird.
- 30:16And so Jessica's a little bit suspicious and at one point
- 30:20they're out at the bar and. Oh, wait, no, before that
- 30:23they're mountain climbing and then they're up there like just
- 30:26kind of chilling out. And when they're like they're
- 30:29talking a little bit about Madison, but CW's like, hey, we
- 30:32should probably go back. And then this is where Jessica's
- 30:35like, yeah, a lot of break in situations going on around here,
- 30:38huh? You can tell she's starting to
- 30:40really suspect that it's her and all this stuff.
- 30:43So they're at the bar and Jessica manages to sneak away,
- 30:46and CW gets a message from Madison's Instagram account
- 30:51where basically Jessica just wants to like, meet up with her,
- 30:54talk to her. Like, I met your friend CW and
- 30:58your boyfriend Ryan. I've got some questions I just
- 31:01kind of want to get to. Yeah, I think she's trying to
- 31:03warn her. Yeah.
- 31:04Like, you know, like, hey, there's somebody here that's
- 31:05like maybe not being honest about what's.
- 31:08Happening. Weird things are happening.
- 31:10Yeah. So this is where CW realizes
- 31:12that Jessica snuck off. She sees her getting in a cab
- 31:15and going, So she gets back to the villa real quick, tells the
- 31:18cab driver that's waiting for Jessica to go ahead and leave.
- 31:21And when Jessica comes down, she's like, I'm just going to
- 31:24give you your own space. I mean, I found a hotel.
- 31:26I went ahead and booked that that and CW is like, Oh well, I
- 31:29paid the cab driver because I thought you had forgotten.
- 31:34And this is where Jessica makes mistake because Jessica thinks
- 31:38she's hot shit and she's not in any kind of danger And she's
- 31:41like, listen, you're creepy. I don't want to be around here
- 31:43anymore. I'm going to go.
- 31:45And then CW smashes her face into a.
- 31:47Wall, but she almost has it. She's like, look, I know what's
- 31:50happening here. You're taking advantage of your
- 31:52friend Madison, and you just want money.
- 31:54I'll give you money if that's all you want.
- 31:56Are you that fucking and done? Yeah, she probably is.
- 31:59She runs a cult. That's what she is driven by.
- 32:02So she assumes everybody else is driven by the same things.
- 32:05Yeah. This is a pretty gnarly kill,
- 32:09though. She steps on her throat with her
- 32:11heel. That's pretty fucking brutal.
- 32:14Gross. It's so gross.
- 32:15And then she shoves her into her suitcase.
- 32:20Incredible. Ryan comes back to this villa
- 32:23with randos again. This guy is bad fucking news.
- 32:26You don't know these people, and you're just inviting them into
- 32:28this villa with two women who you also barely know.
- 32:33Like this is such a bad idea. And CW is very clear that they
- 32:38all need to leave. Yeah.
- 32:41And then as they're like clearing out and everything, she
- 32:45gets a notification that Madison was tagged by a photo tagged by
- 32:49Ryan in a photo on Instagram. And that photo has CW in the
- 32:53background. So it's probably a photo that
- 32:55she had like sent to him or something.
- 32:58Yeah, so it's the next morning. Ryan was aware of Jessica's plan
- 33:04to leave and go to a hotel, but CW kind of explained it away.
- 33:07Like, oh, she's going to go in the morning.
- 33:09Yeah, she got too drunk to leave, and then here she's got
- 33:12breakfast laid out for everybody to apologize, and then she has
- 33:14like a eaten plate already, as if it were Jessica, and she's
- 33:18already left in the morning. Yeah.
- 33:20And then he gets a notification or he pulls up Instagram because
- 33:25CW says that Jessica sent him a message on Instagram that she
- 33:27was leaving. And when he pulls it up, he sees
- 33:30Madison has posted a photo with one of the people that they'd
- 33:33taken pictures with before. It says new love of my life.
- 33:37Yeah. And so he's a little bit upset,
- 33:40and him and CW go out and about and she's trying to play
- 33:44friendly and he's saying that he brought out the real Madison,
- 33:48like she and her account needed him.
- 33:50And she's not the first girl that he's made famous.
- 33:53And he's just really good at this kind of thing.
- 33:55I like how he's like shooting. He's like the quality.
- 33:57Right now that she's posting, it's just shit.
- 33:59It's. Just bad.
- 34:00Stuff. And it's just like saying it
- 34:01right to her face. Yeah, and so like this whole day
- 34:04is just like them sightseeing and CW just like kissing ass and
- 34:09getting him drunker and drunker and eventually drugging him.
- 34:12And then they get back to the villa and he passes out on the
- 34:15bed. And this is really gross.
- 34:17She climbs on over naked and throws a condom on the floor, is
- 34:21basically setting the scene and then uses his face to unlock his
- 34:25phone. And this is when she deletes the
- 34:29picture of Madison and her from his Instagram.
- 34:34So he wakes up in the morning. He is confused about everything
- 34:38that's going on and she says we gotta hurry.
- 34:40The fairy leaves in an hour. Yeah.
- 34:42And then he's just like looking around, sees a condom in the
- 34:43floor and he's just kind of processing what happened there.
- 34:47So she drops him off at the ferry and then she goes back and
- 34:49she's burning Madison and Jessica's stuff.
- 34:52But she does keep a couple trophies because she's a serial
- 34:54killer, and that's a serial killer too.
- 34:56She keeps Madison's journal and the fake jade statue that
- 35:01Jessica bought her sister. Yeah.
- 35:03Now the sister will never get it.
- 35:05It's not real, man. She's doing them a favor, OK?
- 35:08So Ryan thinks back to his first date, first date with Madison.
- 35:13And I think this is kind of like a fun little way to tie
- 35:15everything in together about the whole like catfishing and faking
- 35:18and everything. Because it was his friend that
- 35:21was messaging Madison from his account, pretending to be.
- 35:25Him. Yeah.
- 35:26And then he was like, but I was intrigued, so I wanted to come
- 35:29meet you. And then he takes a picture of
- 35:31her with a teddy bear. And he's like, you know, if you
- 35:34post stuff like this, like people, they'll be really drawn
- 35:36to it. Got that AX factor.
- 35:38Yeah, I'm a star. So he decides that he's not
- 35:46gonna give up on Madison that quickly.
- 35:48Does he love her? Does he love her fame?
- 35:50He loves her fame. I was gonna say, who can really
- 35:52say? But he loves her fame.
- 35:55Most importantly, he wants to be right.
- 35:56Yeah, yes. So he's basically tracking her
- 35:59movements based on what she had posted on social media.
- 36:02And she he winds up at the resort bar and meets the drunk
- 36:05Brit who will not appreciate another Wolf cop.
- 36:12Because if you're drunk and British, you won't get another
- 36:15Wolf Cop, as we discussed. Yeah, you'll become Canadian.
- 36:18You will become Canadian. Yeah, so like, he's like talking
- 36:24and he shows a picture of Mass and he's like, hey, do you
- 36:26recognize this girl? At first he says no, but then as
- 36:30he goes on he mentions. He mentions her and another
- 36:36woman at the bar and he kind of like gestures about CWS.
- 36:40No, no, no, no. He mentions about, like, her
- 36:44having a break in and then that jog is the guy's memories.
- 36:46Like, Oh yeah, that's right. She had a rough go of it that
- 36:49night. Her and her friend, Yeah.
- 36:51And then and then he goes, no, but she's been here recently.
- 36:54And he was like, no, did you see that picture that it's a clear
- 36:57sky? It's the rainy season here.
- 36:59We haven't had a clear day like that in weeks.
- 37:01Right? Da, da, da.
- 37:03So Ryan calls Madison's friend Jay to ask about their last time
- 37:07they video chat. He goes, well, I've been talking
- 37:09to her. He goes, no, like, when's the
- 37:10last time you actually saw her? And he goes, I don't know, it's
- 37:12been a while. Can you get me a brand deal?
- 37:16So he's watching an Instagram, that Instagram video that CW
- 37:21posted about her paying her respects to the big Buddha and
- 37:24catches like, where you know how, like when you do a filter
- 37:28and edit or whatever, like if it falls off just a little bit,
- 37:31it'll glitch. He catches it and he sees CW's
- 37:34birthmark under her eye and he's like.
- 37:38So he goes back to the villa and everything looks mostly empty,
- 37:41but he does find a bag with the trophies of the statue and the
- 37:44diary. He manages to catch her off
- 37:47guard. Yeah, he knocks her out by
- 37:49hiding around the corner. She wakes up tied up to a chair
- 37:53and he begins interrogating her about everything that's
- 37:56happened. But she is also like basically
- 37:59saying like, well, here's the things that I have on you and
- 38:02how you're going to be fucked because I'm bruised up.
- 38:04And Madison sent me all those messages about how you were
- 38:06abusive to her. And he's like, but you wrote
- 38:09those. And she goes, Are you sure?
- 38:12Can you prove that? Yeah.
- 38:13They're kind of at an impasse, but Ryan thinks that he is still
- 38:17going to be able to figure out what happened to Madison.
- 38:20And he's like, I know what you're doing.
- 38:22You're using Madison's account for likes.
- 38:25What is her motive though? Like is she just a serial
- 38:28killer? And like she thinks that
- 38:30influencers are the easiest targets?
- 38:31No, it's like a vigilante justice thing because she says
- 38:34that like you're selling stuff to little girls.
- 38:36Like she just thinks they're vapid and like.
- 38:39Yeah. Basically.
- 38:40Yeah, OK. I OK, I guess.
- 38:44So she agrees that she will take him to where Madison is and she
- 38:48leads him to the motorboat and then she attacks him and they
- 38:51have an underwater fight. She gets cut a couple of times
- 38:55but he gets stabbed and trucked. Why do people struggle to cut
- 38:59somebody that is directly behind them and like holding them?
- 39:03It's an easy target. Yeah.
- 39:05Like you could have gotten her pretty good here, man, but.
- 39:08For him, it's because he was arrogant and he didn't think
- 39:11that CW would have it in her to attack him.
- 39:14Well, it's not just that. It's just like, I get it, you're
- 39:17like panicking in the moment, but like they're on top of you.
- 39:20Just take your fucking knife in your hand and just reach behind
- 39:23you, like just scratching your back.
- 39:24That's all you got to do. So.
- 39:28He's dead. Yeah, he's dead.
- 39:30She goes back and she showers. She, I think this is really
- 39:36funny because she dresses down in like super casual clothing
- 39:39and she's eating a McDonald's hamburger.
- 39:41Like this is the real CW finally that we're seeing.
- 39:44She makes a post from Madison's account talking about how
- 39:48abusive Ryan is. We get like a brief little
- 39:51glimpse of Jay posting an Instagram.
- 39:53I always knew Ryan was a creep. Fuck you, you fake ass.
- 39:57Friend. Yeah, you were certainly happy
- 40:00to be around him when you thought like you could get all
- 40:02the. And everything I just.
- 40:04The smallest amount of scenes you can give a person and it
- 40:08perfectly tells the story of how shitty of a.
- 40:10Friend, you know exactly. Who this guy is?
- 40:11This guy fucking sucks. Everybody in this movie fucking
- 40:14sucks. And you know what?
- 40:16What, We get my trope. There's a ring and Ryan's bag.
- 40:21He proposed. He was gonna propose.
- 40:23I'm not. It's not like the typical moment
- 40:27though, because Ryan's a toxic fucker.
- 40:30That was just a that relationship was not going.
- 40:32To be no, no, absolutely. That was his last at Jeffrey.
- 40:35He's like, fuck, I got to do the card.
- 40:37I got to do the trump card, you know, proposal that'll fix
- 40:41everything. Yeah.
- 40:42And then what's that felt like, baby?
- 40:43Have a baby? Yeah.
- 40:46We we know how this relationship already would have played out
- 40:48theoretically here. So she goes out to the island,
- 40:52I. Assume she's good.
- 40:54Just ask a question here. Did she leave his body in the
- 40:56boat the entire time? I think so.
- 41:00Day potentially, right, I think. It's a day.
- 41:04I think it's a day enough for her to go back and clean
- 41:06herself. Up that is fucking.
- 41:07Wild get some McDonald's. So she goes out to the island,
- 41:13and when she gets there, she's like, there's a bunch of
- 41:15handmade Spears with fish carcasses on them, some
- 41:19containers that have been collecting rainwater.
- 41:23And there are. I wrote it down.
- 41:27Hold on. 38 tally marks on the tree.
- 41:29Now, did you actually count them?
- 41:30I did. Wow.
- 41:31Well, the great thing about tally marks is you like.
- 41:33Yeah. So I just.
- 41:35I counted by fives. That's so smart.
- 41:37Yeah, I'm not an accountant, so I was able to figure that out
- 41:40pretty quickly. You'll.
- 41:41Get there one day. So she's looking around for
- 41:44Madison. She's got a shovel for your
- 41:46protection because she wasn't planning to have a fight.
- 41:50She was just planning to bury Ryan I.
- 41:52Was I think I've never hike a woman where I see the shovel.
- 41:55Shovel's like a good weapon, man.
- 41:57I think I've never hiked alone when I see our shovel, which is
- 42:00very tiny. Yeah, yeah.
- 42:03So she's like going hunting on the island, trying to find
- 42:05Madison. She makes it up to the top of a
- 42:07mountain and she, I don't understand what she sees here.
- 42:09It's like a little shrine. I wonder if those are the bodies
- 42:13of the previous influencers, like if she comes out and buries
- 42:16them after the fact. I guess I don't know.
- 42:20I would just throw him out to sea man.
- 42:21Yeah. Like the not the tide Take him.
- 42:23But Madison hits her, knocks her out, and she walks down to the
- 42:29boat, finds Ryan's body and she's.
- 42:33Just drives off. In the boat, yeah.
- 42:35CW wakes up to the sound of the boat leaving and she just kind
- 42:38of laughs. And that's how the movie ends.
- 42:43Man, we speed through that. We sure did.
- 42:45This is a short episode, yeah. Sorry folks.
- 42:49Yeah, maybe that's what happens when you don't have fun facts, I
- 42:51think. Yeah, that really pads that.
- 42:52Did slow it down. I think I'm gonna keep it at 7.
- 42:55I like the movie, I like the vibes of it.
- 42:57This is like a is a vibey kind of movie more than a story.
- 43:02Yeah, no, I enjoy watching it. It's a fun watch.
- 43:05Yeah, like I said before, I just like, I like seeing her squirm.
- 43:09I like seeing her be put in these, like moments where she
- 43:12has to like she's backed into a corner, like, how do you get out
- 43:14of this? Those are always fun to watch
- 43:16unfold. Yeah, so I'm keeping A7.
- 43:19I'm keeping in mind 7 too. OK Talia, she was pretty sleepy
- 43:24during this movie actually. She just wanted to rest.
- 43:28I think she is afraid of water. She would not like being stuck
- 43:31on an island that would stress her out.
- 43:33But she likes boat rides so it's mixed for her.
- 43:36I think she will give it. 5-6 half and half six OK enough to
- 43:41edge her over to the liking. Side cuz what saves Madison is
- 43:45Styx. You were so great.
- 43:48Yeah, Zoe's ultimate warrior. I mean, obviously it's CW.
- 43:52Yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah.
- 43:53She's able to trick people and get them to go eat food with
- 43:56her. Yeah, that's true.
- 43:57That's Zoe's end goal right there.
- 43:59And. I think we already did a pretty
- 44:02good Little Dream sequel where we said Madison is convinced to
- 44:09write a Tylal book and Oh yeah, my friend Jay is like trying to
- 44:13squirm in there. Yeah, Jay is like trying to be
- 44:15the manager. Yeah, Yeah, I think that that.
- 44:18Yeah, I like that. Oh yeah.
- 44:20Who did you relate to? Oh God.
- 44:24Good question, huh? Yeah, who did I relate to?
- 44:30Who is happy to not have these people around?
- 44:33Cuz that's the person I really too.
- 44:36Probably the shopkeep guy. He's like the fuck this person
- 44:38ever. You're telling about my fake ass
- 44:40shit. Get the fuck out of here.
- 44:45Man, I don't know. I guess I kind of relate to
- 44:49Madison in some ways because if I had a way to like just be able
- 44:55to travel for a living like that and not have to worry about
- 44:57bills like. Yeah, but that's the thing.
- 44:59When you watch as you see, she doesn't even enjoy it.
- 45:02She's like she. It's the whole like putting out
- 45:04the impression that you're living your life to the fullest.
- 45:07And so you're not actually. It's just sad.
- 45:09Yeah, really. You're just on your phone and
- 45:11just caring more about what people think you're doing rather
- 45:13than what you're actually doing and experiencing.
- 45:17If you could do, if you could escape that part of it, then
- 45:19that'd be great. And now I have to ask a very
- 45:23important question which is WWDD.
- 45:25What would Dom do? Why don't I always say Vin
- 45:27Diesel? I don't know.
- 45:29I don't know what would Dom do. Well, Dom can make a car on an
- 45:37island that can turn into a boat.
- 45:39Yes. I mean.
- 45:41Given. You give him a wrench, he can do
- 45:43it, I'm pretty sure. And I'm pretty sure Dom always
- 45:46has a wrench on him and a shotgun, so.
- 45:48Yeah, and if he can't, then for some reason, I mean somebody
- 45:52from his family will find out where he is and we'll bring him
- 45:55back to shore. Realistically, like he'll be
- 45:58needed for a mission and Mr. Nobody will.
- 46:01Have I was going to say Mr. Nobody will actually find out
- 46:04where the submarine. Is there's a fucking?
- 46:05They have a. Submarine.
- 46:06That's what it is, yeah. Giselle and the rest of the
- 46:08family and a fast X. They're in the submarine.
- 46:11They don't come back, they don't rise from the water, they rise
- 46:13from beneath the island. Yeah, like it lifts.
- 46:16The island is actually just part of the submarine.
- 46:19The island is the submarine, yes.
- 46:21Yeah, OK. Like, no, it was all part of Mr.
- 46:23Nobody's plan. Now that I've got you here.
- 46:25Yeah. All right.
- 46:27Here we go. OK, I've got a review.
- 46:31OK. And I know that we're like, I
- 46:34wasn't sure how much you would like this movie, but I know you
- 46:36liked it enough. So I found a negative review on
- 46:39IMDb. All right.
- 46:40Awful for starters, the sound mix with any music was so bad it
- 46:43made what any of them was saying unintelligible, which was most
- 46:46of the time. I don't think this movie has a
- 46:48commentary on how easy it is to steal someone's identity.
- 46:51I think it's a commentary on how dumb, vacuous, and self absorbed
- 46:53Gen. Z are.
- 46:54Absolutely no sympathy for any of the characters whatsoever.
- 46:57I. Think it's exclusive to Gen.
- 46:58ZI think we saw some millennials.
- 47:01Yeah, I was going to say Madison and Jessica both look more
- 47:05closer to millennial age. It's the first thing you need to
- 47:09earn when making a horror movie. Which leads me to my next point.
- 47:12It's not even a horror movie, so why is it on Shutter?
- 47:14It's more like a Gen. Z scooby-doo version of Murder
- 47:16She Wrote played out on Instagram.
- 47:17What the fuck? The acting is woeful, especially
- 47:20the boyfriend casting. I didn't think the boyfriend did
- 47:23bad. I didn't think the acting was
- 47:24bad in this movie honestly. Oh, I missed a line on there.
- 47:27Absolutely no sympathy for any of the characters whatsoever.
- 47:30I think goes to your point. Yeah.
- 47:31Yeah. I, I don't know, I, I like this
- 47:35sub genre because I think it's kind of interesting to like,
- 47:41these are people that we see all the time.
- 47:43And the whole thing is that they start off as regular people and
- 47:45then they become like social media famous.
- 47:48So I think that's what's intriguing about it to me.
- 47:50I think the movie, I think when that type of thing see, I don't
- 47:54think that they explored that well in this yeah, a movie that
- 47:58explores that really well is Ingrid goes worse that right
- 48:01there. Like, if you want to tell a
- 48:02story of like, the real lives behind influencers, that's the
- 48:06movie you need to watch right there.
- 48:08Because like, it really tackles like they're not who they're
- 48:12putting themselves out there to be.
- 48:14It's got baby nobody. It has a little nobody.
- 48:17Yeah, that's. Right.
- 48:18Not the actual little nobody from the movie, but.
- 48:20Like, yeah. Like actual Kurt Russell's son?
- 48:22Yeah. Yeah.
- 48:23White Russell. Yeah.
- 48:26You know, like, yeah, I agree with the part of, like, not
- 48:31really being into the characters and really caring about them,
- 48:35but I think it's strange to, like, use this as ammunition
- 48:39against Gen. Z when this is pretty much a
- 48:41millennial movie through and through.
- 48:43Person who just like, decided that oh, it's now my turn to
- 48:47bully the generation below me. And I hate that that's happening
- 48:50with a lot of millennials right now because that happened to
- 48:52millennials, but. When I see the things that
- 48:55people are complaining about with Gen.
- 48:57Z, it kind of would be like, good for them.
- 48:58Like when they talk about the Gen.
- 48:59Z sticker from customer service workers, I'm like, yeah, no,
- 49:02good for them. You don't need to have your ass
- 49:03kissed by this person. That's mainly 750 an hour.
- 49:06You don't? Yeah.
- 49:06Like they should just stare at you when you're like, what do I
- 49:09want to drink? I don't know.
- 49:10Order your own fucking drink. Figure it out.
- 49:12Figure out what you want. See, millennials, we're just
- 49:15perpetuating the cycle, man. We were abused.
- 49:17Perpetuating the cycle. I'm applauding you all.
- 49:19No, I am too, honestly. Yeah, I I appreciate that.
- 49:22I want to adopt the Gen. Z stare but I it's too ingrained
- 49:25in me to have a customer service face invoice.
- 49:29Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, whatever.
- 49:32OK, I think that pretty much covers that.
- 49:33Yeah. OK, so let's do a list of
- 49:35reviews. I do have one.
- 49:37Yay, we timed it out terribly. Yeah, I posted it this morning.
- 49:42Yeah, we are not on our game, but I do have one review here.
- 49:45It's from Cubesaves. It says.
- 49:48I saw this and I have 0 memory of it.
- 49:50Does this movie even exist? It doesn't.
- 49:55I don't know, a question mark doesn't.
- 49:57I like, it's a movie that stuck with me, but I think it has to
- 50:00be the kind of thing that you like.
- 50:01I fully recognize that this is like, it hits things.
- 50:06Yeah, it hits things aesthetically for me.
- 50:08You have your aesthetics. You like, you like, especially
- 50:11like an 80s type of aesthetic. Yeah, You love that.
- 50:15This is the type of thing I like.
- 50:16So it just. And I get it.
- 50:18I get that it's not gonna be everybody's thing.
- 50:19And I'm not gonna sit here and be like, anybody can watch this
- 50:21and they'll love it. Yeah, I mean, it's not only
- 50:23that, I mean it's like, it doesn't really have like a super
- 50:26compelling story to it either, really.
- 50:29You know, like it's. I do.
- 50:31I think it does. But you think?
- 50:32It has a compelling story. Well, listen, I think it's
- 50:35partly because I read a lot of like, pulp, so I don't
- 50:37necessarily have to like characters to be interested in
- 50:41their stories, you know what I mean?
- 50:43Yeah, I, I'm just saying like, this story isn't really much
- 50:45there. It's just like AI killed this
- 50:47person and I'm trying to kill this person and Oh no, they
- 50:50might think they might find out that I killed that person.
- 50:52So I'm going to they kill them, which is you really don't need
- 50:55much. I mean, that's perfectly fine
- 50:56for a horror movie, but like, you know, it, it does the job
- 50:59well enough for me. Like it gives, it's gives setups
- 51:03for like the things that I like to watch, like I said before,
- 51:06the squirming, being backed into a corner, you know, like that's
- 51:09all fun for me to watch. Now I have one more item we must
- 51:13discuss. Yes, new tagline.
- 51:15Oh no, we have to actually do that.
- 51:25Like, follow and subscribe for more nightmare vacation plans.
- 51:35Real scary, but spell it REEL. That's good.
- 51:38OK, real scary now. I like that.
- 51:41You could tell I was excited about it cuz I did the like arms
- 51:44life thing that I do when I'm when I make myself laugh that.
- 51:47Works. That works for me.
- 51:49No, it's yeah, that's good. Okay, we're done with
- 51:53Influencer, which means I'm gonna tell you guys where you
- 51:56can watch Hatchet 2. Yeah, next week.
- 51:59That's on Tubi, Pluto TV, Sling TV, Fandango at home, Philo
- 52:03Prime, YouTube Prime Time, YouTube TV Premium.
- 52:07Or you can rent it from Google TV or Apple TV.
- 52:09It's a watchable movie, people. And guess what?
- 52:12We've recast the lead with Daniel Harris.
- 52:15Yeah. And not that I hated the lead,
- 52:18but I like Daniel Harris. Yeah.
- 52:20Yeah. So yeah, hatchet too, people.
- 52:22You know, we're going to talk about it next week, so watch it
- 52:25and be prepared. Do your homework.
- 52:27And I'm going to say this is a franchise that I like more as it
- 52:31goes on, so I know I was a little bit rough on the first
- 52:33one. I can't remember it.
- 52:35Yeah. Yeah.
- 52:35You were wearing it. Yeah.
- 52:37Hatchet. Yeah, I like hatchet, too.
- 52:38I'm excited for it. So yeah, we'll get that on next
- 52:42week. Yes.
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- 53:53Look God, my names are getting all mixed up.