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EP 10 - OUT OF THE MANOSPHERE · Relatables

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on.
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  Speaker 2: Relatables, really learn how to be a supportive partner and
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  Speaker 2: an equal partner and the things that women are really
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  Speaker 2: looking for.
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  Speaker 3: Relatable The Relatable Podcast by myself, Addie Clark ak Mom
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  Speaker 3: and my partner in crime is the Jake Craig Ak Daddy,
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  Speaker 3: Daddy and Baddius. This is a serious episode because we're
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  Speaker 3: raw dogging we're raw doggan. What do you do as
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  Speaker 3: parents when you have.
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  Speaker 1: Unwrapped, lubed up raw dogginger?
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  Speaker 3: I wish you didn't just say that, because I was
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  Speaker 3: going to say, what do you say when, like, if
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  Speaker 3: we had a son, we had to sit him down,
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  Speaker 3: have a tough conversation about him and his actions.
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  Speaker 1: Oh what's he done? You'll find out? I thought you
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  Speaker 1: were going to talking about the sex chat. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that too. Yeah we could throw that in there everyone.
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  Speaker 1: The Birds and the Bees and the tds, the Birds
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  Speaker 1: and the beat. What's it called the Birds and the
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  Speaker 1: Bees for? I don't know did you ever have that chat? Really?
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  Speaker 1: My parents never had that.
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  Speaker 3: It was so awkward. Ay, my dad didn't know what
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  Speaker 3: to do. He didn't have a scooby do.
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: I remember he like I was like.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have a Scooby Doo. Yeah, haven't you heard that?
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  Speaker 3: Saying really, nope, he didn't never Scooby do what was
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  Speaker 3: going on? I've been using that heaps lately. It's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you haven't, Yes, I have, because it's because you don't.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard you.
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  Speaker 3: That's because you don't hang out with me enough anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Canceling session in play Nah so bad. He's within the
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  Speaker 3: world is the manisphere?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were going to talk to me about
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  Speaker 1: Scooby Doo skibby Do.
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  Speaker 3: I love Scooby Doo Shaggy and that that was my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: But he doesn't. And I just don't think that's the
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  Speaker 1: saying yes.
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  Speaker 3: It is he didn't have Scooby do what was going on?
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  Speaker 3: Like it's when something someone or something doesn't understand what's
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  Speaker 3: going on, like say someone was.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to like it.
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  Speaker 3: Someone was trying to park a reverse park and they
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  Speaker 3: did it three times and then left because they couldn't
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  Speaker 3: make it.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't have it. He doesn't have a Scooby Do like it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't you heard that. I didn't come up with it.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I could claim it instead of saying he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't got a clue. Yeah, he hasn't got a Scooby Doo.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't got a Scooby do. What's going I fucking
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: I swear it's a full full saying.
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  Speaker 1: I'll ask my dad.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's a bit older old nos like that.
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  Speaker 1: Your parents would no, they would know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know where I got it from. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: I should claim it. I'm going to cut it, and guys,
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  Speaker 3: I've got new saying. When people don't know what's going on,
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  Speaker 3: they do something dumb. They don't have a Scooby doo.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Scooby Do, Scooby do, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: You've heard it? No?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, you just made that straight from the sauce, mate,
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  Speaker 3: you made straight.
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  Speaker 1: From the bottle. Yeah, that's it. When but Australians say sauce,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like sauce sauce.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a catch up man. Yeah, and like if anyone
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  Speaker 3: tells me different, that catch up and tomato sauce tastes
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  Speaker 3: the same. We are no longer friends. And you don't
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  Speaker 3: have a Scooby do.
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  Speaker 1: They don't taste the same.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I full proved my girlfriend wrong, made her blind test
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  Speaker 3: both of them forced it and I'm kidding and she said, oh,
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  Speaker 3: catchup taste better, and it tastes different, and then she goes,
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  Speaker 3: they taste the same.
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  Speaker 1: Though, I'm like, how how be proven wrong?
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  Speaker 5: So you were like, see, here's the thing. It's like,
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  Speaker 5: at what point in time do you say, let me
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  Speaker 5: prove you wrong? But I'm sure it felt pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Go great.
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  Speaker 3: She still doesn't admit it. It's like because it's a
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  Speaker 3: tough one though, because tomato sauce obviously does the job.
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  Speaker 3: Still like, I'm not going to say, notice in tomato
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  Speaker 3: sauce if it's no sauce or tomato sauce taken the tomato
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  Speaker 3: so sauce a bit sweet. But when you have catchup
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  Speaker 3: and tomato sauce, you go catch up every day of
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  Speaker 3: the week.
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  Speaker 1: I used to be tomato sauce, but I'm ketchup now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Same so so was I I feel like and once
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  Speaker 3: you go there, you can't go back.
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  Speaker 1: Once you go, you can't go Yeah, it's filling the gas.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same way. Once you go Pepsi max, you
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  Speaker 3: can't go back to coke zero of course.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and once you go you can't go filling the
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  Speaker 5: gaps again.
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  Speaker 3: Well, interesting start, I might say, yeah, yeah, yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: is constructive criticism for men. The relatables voice mails with
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  Speaker 3: the prompt being how can men do better? Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: we got sent I'm going to say, over two hundred
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  Speaker 3: of the baddies saying things that men could do better.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought this would be a great episode. I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to say, well, it's coming straight from the source.
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  Speaker 3: Where else the tomato sauce, the bottle. Yeah, it's coming
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  Speaker 3: straight from the bottle.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And what better place to improve as a man
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  Speaker 3: than hearing what you could do better in a constructive way.
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  Speaker 3: We're not attacking, we're not saying your shit. Well that
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  Speaker 3: you are, but you're not actually that shit, and you
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  Speaker 3: can do better because there are some good men out there.
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  Speaker 3: But it's also insightful to see it from a different
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  Speaker 3: gender's perspective.
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think so yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And what I was going on with before, especially in
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  Speaker 3: the lot of the World is the manisphere.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we watched that documentary. We watched that documentary, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously one word to describe that.
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  Speaker 3: If I had one word and you had one word
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  Speaker 3: three two one, revolting, that was close.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I wanted to say hard watch like it
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  Speaker 1: was a hard but it was revolting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's so many key issues that I think
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  Speaker 3: will just naturally come out in conversation. You know I'm
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  Speaker 3: serious about is when I bring the laptop out instead
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  Speaker 3: of the phone. So I've got do you want to know
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  Speaker 3: how many I've got?
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  Speaker 1: I do? I would love to know meyboard? What yourn?
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  Speaker 1: I'm you're working me hard? Ten? Ten? I got ten?
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  Speaker 1: Let's go. How can men do better?
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  Speaker 4: I'd say consideration is really underrated, Like very rarely do
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  Speaker 4: you meet a guy that's just really quite thoughtful and
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  Speaker 4: considerate of other people. Really, that's like in the surroundings
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  Speaker 4: and his relationship or you know, like within his family.
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  Speaker 4: How someone would just really like put the best interest
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  Speaker 4: of others, even in like the smaller moments, just like
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  Speaker 4: a top of mind. You know, it's not it's not
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  Speaker 4: really like even a sacrifice, just it's just just consider it.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So, Yeah, I think that's something that would be really
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  Speaker 4: lovely to start seeing.
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  Speaker 1: So mindfulness towards consideration.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and to everyone, Hey, I feel like even I
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  Speaker 3: think everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Is very self centered.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a big issue within the world and
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  Speaker 3: being considerate of how someone else is feeling or what
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  Speaker 3: they're going through, and said scenario is a hard skill
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  Speaker 3: to master.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe try to be a bit more of an impath.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because I don't know, especially with the world.
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  Speaker 3: We said it in last Raw Dog, it's a hard place,
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  Speaker 3: a like everything that's going on in the world, and
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  Speaker 3: then you feel so miniscal and your problems feel like
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  Speaker 3: they're nothing, but then they're so big to you, and
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  Speaker 3: like everyone's got their own problems. But then you're like,
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  Speaker 3: my problems are taking up my time. What do I
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  Speaker 3: care about your problems? It's just it's a balancing act
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  Speaker 3: and if you can really practice empathy, it's a great
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  Speaker 3: skill to have.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say consideration. Let me think, I guess
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  Speaker 5: consider ration, like she was saying, just in the small moments.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of men.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, I've been pretty guilty of it in
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  Speaker 5: the past, and maybe I'm pretty guilty of it moments.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: But little things like put the soil to toilet sit down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that's a small, small, minuscule considerate things, barely considerate, but
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  Speaker 5: like just put the toilet down, or.
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  Speaker 3: The little things in but the little things that up, Yeah, like.
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  Speaker 5: Put your dish in the dishwasher, or I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: put your lawn.
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  Speaker 3: Tell what pieces me off? Little people shopping and then
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  Speaker 3: they just leave their trolley in the car park. Lazy motherfucker.
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  Speaker 3: Walk your back.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, I've done it recently. Really, it was piercing down rain,
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  Speaker 1: was considerate. I'm leaving it. Guess what, you're a man?
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  Speaker 1: I am a man. Yeah, you know, I am a
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  Speaker 1: Man's coming to a realization. I just woke up. I
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  Speaker 1: am a man.
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  Speaker 5: You you're woke. Best took it back though.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. A great example, YEA.
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  Speaker 2: One thing men can do to be better is to
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  Speaker 2: go to therapy and learn how to be better supportive
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  Speaker 2: partners and learn how to learn about their partner. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's something that sometimes men don't know. They think
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  Speaker 2: that they can just like ask these basic questions, but
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  Speaker 2: really learn how to be a supportive partner and an
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  Speaker 2: equal partner and the things that women are really looking.
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  Speaker 1: For, love it supportive and equal. Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 3: How many men do you think don't know about their partner?
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  Speaker 3: Oh a lot, Yeah, you would say.
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  Speaker 5: Like us included, there's probably things we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I was even thinking we I feel like this might
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  Speaker 3: be a good way to break down these voice messages.
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  Speaker 3: Is like a surface level way to think of it,
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  Speaker 3: and also a deeper way I reckon even a lot
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  Speaker 3: of men wouldn't even know about the female anatomy. Yeah no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: no no no no, that wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I find that wild?
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  Speaker 3: Like I was n was naive, still probably have a
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  Speaker 3: lot to learn. I don't want to put myself on
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  Speaker 3: a pedestal, but also feel that's wild.
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  Speaker 5: Look, yeah, I'm trying to think here there's no real
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  Speaker 5: excuse for it, but I guess it's just like a
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  Speaker 5: black of mine answer. If that's what happened, it just
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  Speaker 5: would be so like.
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  Speaker 3: It's a bigger problem in a sense of it should
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  Speaker 3: be schooled or like an individual learns on their own terms.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't actually know.
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  Speaker 5: I think I would say I only know about it
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  Speaker 5: from girlfriends.
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  Speaker 3: I'd take girlfriends on this podcast.
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  Speaker 5: I can confidently say that the reason I don't know
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  Speaker 5: out of curiosity, if that makes sense, Like the reason
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  Speaker 5: I know it is because I was told Yeah, not
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  Speaker 5: because I was like, how many days is your cycle?
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  Speaker 1: Or what is this phase and what does it mean?
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  Speaker 5: You know, like, I don't think I ever asked the questions,
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  Speaker 5: So it's like, maybe more the right answer is how
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  Speaker 5: do we give peop to be more curious and just
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  Speaker 5: like care more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, is coming back to consideration a little bit too,
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  Speaker 3: because yeah, it's like everyone's different, but then also women
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  Speaker 3: are different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, everyone's are in person as well.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly what can men do to be better? I think
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  Speaker 6: they can start with moral compass. They can work on
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  Speaker 6: having a better moral compass, not as flexible as most
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  Speaker 6: men have right now. And they can work on listening better.
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  Speaker 6: They can be more open minded and humble because we
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  Speaker 6: understand they don't know a lot about gender dynamics because
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  Speaker 6: they are at the you know, at the advantageous position
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  Speaker 6: of it. But as long as they are open to learning,
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  Speaker 6: I think it works. And yeah, it's it's enough and
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  Speaker 6: and men are lovely otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, let's go, yes, slave, let's go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I think the thing I took from that about is like,
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  Speaker 5: from that the most would be excepting the fact that
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  Speaker 5: you're in the advantageous position, just being a man.
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  Speaker 3: That's interesting as what I took from that, like morally,
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  Speaker 3: the line between right and wrong, especially to make money
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  Speaker 3: financially online is so blurred. Ye have some morals, dude,
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  Speaker 3: especially like watching that doc and like I knew those
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  Speaker 3: problems already, Like it's a glorified scam artist. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: then you call it of course.
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  Speaker 5: Legit bro also right, So there's like one of the
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  Speaker 5: guys on the documentary is like out here brainwashing men
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  Speaker 5: into and saying like you, as a man, are a
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  Speaker 5: worthless Like you're worthless unless you create something like and
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  Speaker 5: he's saying, you know, you're not a woman.
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  Speaker 1: Women are born. Women are born with beauty, They're born
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  Speaker 1: with value.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, women are born with value. Women are born being
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  Speaker 5: invited onto yachts. You're a man, You're never going to
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  Speaker 5: be invited onto your.
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  Speaker 1: It's like when did we get there? Like what are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about?
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  Speaker 5: And also in what world are you living in where
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  Speaker 5: you think that men are the ones born at a
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  Speaker 5: disadvantage and then to go and convince other men, like
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  Speaker 5: very influenceable men, that they are born at a disadvantage
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  Speaker 5: and convince them that women are the ones are born
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  Speaker 5: at an advantage.
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  Speaker 1: We live in a patriarchy. What the fuck are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about?
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's the moral compass of its preying on young, impressional,
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  Speaker 3: impressionable men haven't made their own way through the world,
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  Speaker 3: and they're lost and they need good guidance, they need
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  Speaker 3: good male role models and they can't find them. And
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  Speaker 3: they see these people online who are I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: gallivanting around with these terrible ideologies about life, the patriarchy
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  Speaker 3: and everything like that. It's kind of disgusting. It's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like sad annoying. I was watching it, like I
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  Speaker 3: don't I don't think cringe is the right word. I
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  Speaker 3: was just like watching a thing and these can't be
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  Speaker 3: fucking real.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Also, like, how can anyone think like.
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  Speaker 5: This with this documentary all the men that we're in it, right, Like,
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  Speaker 5: so my question would be like, where are you finding
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  Speaker 5: all of this worth?
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  Speaker 1: Like is your worth.
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  Speaker 5: Coming from knowing that you are convincing all these young
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  Speaker 5: men that they aren't worth anything unless they get something
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  Speaker 5: and build money and get women and tell women what
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  Speaker 5: to do and hate women basically type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And then like they also.
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  Speaker 5: All scam other people to make money and then live
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  Speaker 5: this lavish life and say that they feel really fulfilled. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, but would you be fulfilled without the money,
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  Speaker 5: and also would you be fulfilled like because without the money,
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  Speaker 5: they don't have anything. No, if that made their whole
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  Speaker 5: self worth is pretty much money because if the money
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  Speaker 5: was gone, I can guarantee you the person that's filming
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  Speaker 5: them every day isn't going to hang around because they're
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  Speaker 5: not getting paid. The person that's pretending to be their
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  Speaker 5: friend and be in all the fucking live streams and
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  Speaker 5: clips isn't going to hang around because they're not getting paid.
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  Speaker 3: Like, they wouldn't have anything. Yeah, and even that life
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  Speaker 3: that they're portraying online isn't real. No, Like they're saying
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  Speaker 3: that men's worth comes from making something for themselves, monetary business,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it is. It's all lives if aside the airban
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  Speaker 3: band places, they're renting cars, they're doing all these fake
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  Speaker 3: things just to scam people to make money.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, a it is.
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  Speaker 5: It's so weird it all right.
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  Speaker 6: Next one apparently cleaned their asses.
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  Speaker 1: Are studies that are.
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  Speaker 6: Shocking where men don't clean their asses in between the cheek,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like this is not my mother's tongue.
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  Speaker 1: But please you can't quote me, like please.
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  Speaker 3: Wash your ass yo, good tip. But I just say, men,
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  Speaker 3: wash your arses those dingle berries to be adding up.
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  Speaker 5: Here's my question is like she said that with a passion.
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  Speaker 5: She had passion and some real purpose behind that. So
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  Speaker 5: it's like, how many men's asses have you eaten to
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  Speaker 5: have needed to say that?
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  Speaker 3: Even if it's eating gone down there?
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  Speaker 1: What the is that?
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  Speaker 7: Yo?
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  Speaker 1: That's been crazy? Have been eaten a lot of cheer
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  Speaker 1: seeds lately? Don't tell me they're stuck down there.
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  Speaker 5: Dude, they're not stuck, but like I just want like
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  Speaker 5: a full cheer seed would just be on the toilet.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm a bird. Like, I'm a bird,
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  Speaker 1: I eat s, I'm a bird. You live a different
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  Speaker 1: life set.
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  Speaker 3: I'm literally what kind of bird?
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  Speaker 1: If you could be a bird? Yeah, genuinely what birds?
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  Speaker 1: No cockta is actually pretty cool? Loud, very loud, scary.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe take that back here. If I was a bird, pigeon, nah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're a pigeon. Yeah, let's move on. You're a pigeon.
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  Speaker 5: That's crazy, as you know you're a pigeon.
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  Speaker 1: Anyone you would be a pigeon.
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  Speaker 5: I was a bird, I'd be a cassowerry and I'd
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: hunt you down, and I'd tell.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: You I'd be an. I'd just run away. Brother.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure as is going to catch the fastest
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: bird in the world. I don't know where you heard that,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: and I'm pretty sure is going to catch.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Isn't it is one of all the feathers.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Isn't it a cassowary?
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: That's a Peacockses are like dinosaurs, Bro, big ass legs,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: long ours legs, they don't fly, and they'll tear you apart.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure a cassowary is catching a fucking emuay.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I getch, Bro, it's like the same thing as that.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, cow's a little bit wrong. They do have
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: those feathers. I'll tell y what's faster A Cassey that's
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: best friend first and AMU is faster top speed fifty
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: kilometers per hour, Cassey forty to fifty and I'm obviously
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: going to be the.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Case that's a fifty. It'd be the brother they like
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: the same bird. That's fucking right. It'd be tight race.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: But I'll have you.
• 17:39
  Speaker 8: I think men need to understand that we don't care
• 17:44
  Speaker 8: about like we're not impressed about how much money they
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: make or how much they spend on dinner. I don't
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: even want you to pay for me on the first
• 17:53
  Speaker 8: few days. Like, that's not why we're out here. Many
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: need to understand that we are looking to find a
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: partner that we enjoy spending time with. So we need
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: to have interests and hobbies and travel and be a
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: whole person because we're not dependent on you anymore. I
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: don't need you to survive, but I would love to
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: have you be part of my life.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: Oh damn, that's valid.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: It's such a good way to put it. At the end.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like imagic. Okay, men, this is where I'm talking about.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: This was that baddie that said something back? Consideration Like
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: consider this, Okay, consider this.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: You're a woman.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: You make your own money, you pay your own bills,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: you're independent, you're a man. The thing you think you
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: gotta bring too a relationship is looking after the woman.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: She looks after herself. What's she gonna get? Personality? Fucking
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: do something? Hobbies, Yeah, have opinions, get a personally, have opinions,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: be nice.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Have good morals, have fun, be your own person.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: The fuck.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: It's such a simple concept, though, it really is. I
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: guess you can also consider the position where women have
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: evolved from in a place of they've come from having
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: to stay in a relationship, to have a roof over
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: their head, to have bills being paid from them for them,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: And now they're in a position, it's a beautiful position
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: now where they are their own person and they still
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: want us. They've made they've made the decision to still
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: want us after all that shit. Like, I think that's
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: such a good outlook, dog.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: Honestly, I feel like men, Okay, not all of them.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: Some men just.
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: Inherently view women being like overly dramatic and emotional and
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: like silly, and they don't even realize it, but it
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: makes it so that so many men just like don't
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: take women seriously and inherently view them as being like
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: less capable of like displaying good logic and sound judgment.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: And it's just it's really pervasive. So yeah, it's kind
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: of exhausting and sucks.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Pervasive the week? What does that mean?
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I took other things from that. Pervasive is pervasive?
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you one thing. I know for a fact,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: you know more than I do, that would take you
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: way more seriously than a man because that word.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you look it up I guess it
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: comes It just comes down to how men view women
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: in day to day life. They really don't take a
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: lot of them. Seriously, that's not all men.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: True.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy to say it's not all men, isn't it?
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: She said it just the she Here we go?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Can I guess?
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, go, what does pervasive mean? Assuming someone's value, it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Means something is spreading widely and thoroughly throughout, something present
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: everywhere with a given space or group. So you're wrong
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: that she's right to say it's pervasive, that it's like.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: A thing, that it's like an ever growing problem.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: So like you could say, example, social media has a
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: pervasive influence on modern culture.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Ah, excellent, sense smart? Bad? Yeah how about bad?
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: He's like, I feel like what happens is the baddies
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: are just out there working these jobs that are just
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: like high brain power jobs, just absolutely.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Fucking ship up.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: And then every now and then they just think, yeah,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: this this is tiring. I need to listen to a
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: couple of idiots just like chat for an hour.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, do you reckon? They they're thinking
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: that majority of them are like, oh I wonder what
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I can't even say pervasive.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: Means no, no, no, no, they had they listened to
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: what that baddie just said.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Alright, all the.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Batteries listening, listen to what that baddy just said, and
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: then thought, I can't wait to hear what and then
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: they hear me go.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Dipped their heads and they were like, I saw a comment.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I don't think that was it, but it was on
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Patreon and it was something that our audience loves about us.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: I can't remember what they said about me, but they
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: said with you, they love you. ADHD makes them fun,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: makes them feel what, It makes them feel more normal,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: that they're not alone because like all the baddies A
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: right here D. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a very
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: relatable thing. And I think, like you, I like that.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: I think I'm like I point zero of what ADHD no, no, no, no.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: No question to the battery.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: Should I try and get tested, like I feel like
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I get through life relatively. I have like here's what
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: happens to me is like I could have three weeks
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: of like pretty blissful life and then I could have
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: like a week of like.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: May I reckon, you're high on the ADHD s Galway.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: You last week on the raw dog. You were telling
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: a story and you completely missed the kicker because it
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: involved your dog. And then you went on a side
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: tension of how your dog killed a bird. Yeah he did, yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: yeah he killed And there was like a seven minute
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: story and I'm there sitting there patiently trying to get
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: back to like the topic at hand, and then you
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: were just like odd man, this fucking dog dude, Like
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: he's like, adhd isn't a bad thing?
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Nah?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I reckon.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: It'd be interesting to like go along the journey of
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: you getting tested.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: He's the thing is like, will a doctor take it seriously?
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: From like, look, I'm pretty sure I have that I
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: functioned quite well, but I just want to know a
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: good doctor. Would I feel like you're paying.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Wait a second, don't. Isn't it like seven hundred bucks?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, my girl friend did that. I don't know.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: It's another DIAGNOSI hasn't done it because it was seven
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars. Fuck a bit of a rigamar roll of
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: its seven hundred dollars tax right off?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But what if I got meds? Wait? What's it called for? Advance?
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: What if they gave me a prescription.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: What if they were like, Jake, we've watched you for
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: a couple of days here, like they get you to
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: go in every once in a while to do some.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Tests or whatever. Does your brother that nah? And then
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: my younger brother in Canada does that's what it was?
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: You've gone that soon?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I am going.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: But imagine they just go like, oh, look, Jake's been
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: a couple of days, like yeah, you need this, you
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: need this, And.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Then I just come to the podcast a different human.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I hear some people say it changes their life, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: then other people say that it sucks.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people don't like it. I don't feel like themselves.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: They don't feel like themselves. It takes away they're spark.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Then some people were like, I've never been able to
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: concentrate like this. My life is like I've got so
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: much time back.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I tell you what I actually think.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: I desperately need it when I'm working, like actually working
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: at a computer.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, working at a computer is hard.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Right here, right now, ADHD it up, But like sitting
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: down and getting shit done, I need fucking because I.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Think everybody has a little bit of ADHD.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: I have to.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: It's just a label. And I definitely have seen people
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: with a bad scale of that. But I also think
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of creativity and a lot of beautiful things
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: have come from the presence of ADHD.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Is the worst thing to happen to ADHD? The person
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: that says, but it's beautiful, that's.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: A good question, is it not.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I reckon the worst thing? Oh no, I was going
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: to say, that's that's a bad take. Is like, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: feel like there is a big what's it called how
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: peptides are coming about?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: A bubble?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: No, maybe it's like everyone wants to go on peptides
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: at the moment.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a what's the worst trend? Yeah, trend.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's also a trend of like, oh,
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I've got ADHD. That happened, Yeah, I think and I
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: feel like that was the worst thing that happened for
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: ADHD for the people who actually.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Have it, true, people that have like debilitating yeah, debility, Yeah, yeah, trend?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: How did you for get the word trend?
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: That wasn't the word I was looking for. I was
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: looking for a big one didn't come to me.
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: Take accountability, like, don't make excuses even if it's something small,
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: Like all I want is you tell me, Hey, no,
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: I see where you're coming from. I get it, Like
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: I'll do better next time, or like now I know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: thanks for letting me know, Thanks for you know, just
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: expressing your feelings to me.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: That's good accountability.
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: What I actually have been working on a bit lately
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: is not trying to defend myself.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Right, So like taking accountability.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: But like, have you ever been in a situation where
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: someone asks you to do something and then you're like,
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: like five minutes ago, you were like thinking about actually
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: doing that, right, Like you actually thought like you had
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: the intention of doing it, you just hadn't got to
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: it yet. I find the like at the emptiest string
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: of words is oh yeah, I was actually going to
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: do that, you know. Yeah, Like even if you had
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: the intention and someone has asked you to do something
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: like a pointless statement, it's the most pointless statement.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just fucking take accountability.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: And then next time, when you had the intention of
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: doing it, just do what is it like, and don't
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: sell someone you're gonna do it, Like, don't say I
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: was going to.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Buy you flowers?
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Example, is that the example I was going to buy
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: like I was like the dishes are there, I was
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: about to do that anything like that could be one yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: or like I don't know, maybe say your girlfriend is
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: kind of like, we haven't been on many dates lately,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: and then you're like, literally the other day, actually has
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I was thinking about taking you on a day?
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It's like that doesn't mean anything, that doesn't mean a thing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also I guess valuing what the other
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: person is saying.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like if she feels or he feels.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Like we haven't been going on many days, but then
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: you go, I literally took you one on two weeks ago. Yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling like I haven't been on a dad Like,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: you're right, Yeah, you're all right, you're right, and then change,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Oh it should be you're right. When should the next
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: date be? You want to go on a date with me?
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Not when teller?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when you're dating you actually got to like skate.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That's a good point.
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: I could list many things, but I see I've got
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: a max duration time of five minutes, So I'm going
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: to be quick and simple and.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Just say they could at least stick to their word.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Oh I love that. Stick to your word. Stick to
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: your word.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, I feel like a lot of people slash men
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: don't do that a and such a good skill and
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: trait to have as anyone.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really good.
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: I like that they can start by actually liking women
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: because if they really like her, then it's done. Everything
• 28:35
  Speaker 10: will be okay, everything will be all right if they
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: actually love her.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Oh valid, bro, I feel like is a lot of
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: men who hate women?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the pud yeah, a little bit of patriarch and
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: they only see women as objects or oh question, So
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: you know how the word so misogyny means men that
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: hate women?
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then I've learned that missandry is when women
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: hate men. Okay, but like misogyny is a word because
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: men hate women for no reason? Yeah, how does like
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: it is miss andry really even like a word? Because
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: women hating men is a reaction to men hating them.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: It's a good question. I don't know, I've never heard
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of that before. Yeah, miss andry, yeah, out of no way.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: It's a good question because it comes as a reaction,
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: not a result.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it comes as a reaction, not just like
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: And you also don't see like fuck it seems so
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: black and white in a sense of you don't see
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: thirty old women taking advantage of adding the nine any
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: old women with courses and praying on their emotional insecurities.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Why is that so true?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Why is that so true?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: It's such a male dominated field and like okay, okay, ready,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: this is crazy.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: The documentary The Manisphere, right, is like going and kind
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: of following these men that claim to be like in
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: the manisphere, and like the manisphere is a good thing,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: and it's like that there's nothing out Like a woman
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: being as much of a woman as she could possibly
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: be is like the the best thing. I don't even know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: you know what I'm trying to say. How it's like
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: it would be a compliment to a man for someone
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: to be like, you're the most woman a man could be,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like you're the.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Most woman a man. Like that's a compliment.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: And then like if someone was to say to a
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: woman like, god, you're you're you're like a man, like
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: that's that would be hurtful.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not trying. It's a weird thing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get what you're trying to say. It's weird too,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: because men are like in that documentary, especially those women.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Two of them got caught out with their partners who
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: like the men are saying two when didn't they Yeah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: two men got caught out. Sorry in a sense of
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: like they put this facade online to pray on young
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: vulnerable men. But then also they kind of did have
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a woman who's being a beautiful woman by their side
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: behind closed doors. It was really interesting dynamic. And then
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: when they obviously got called out a little bit in
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: those ideologies like I don't even know what it is
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: when you have what's it called when you have he
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: can have sex with other people but she can't.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: They called it one way monogamy.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one way monogamy. Yeah, it's not a thing. And
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: then it comes up to the partner and she's just
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: like on TV, oh right, yeah sure. And then I
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: dare say the cameras go off there in bed and
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: he goes, oh, I just said that for the cameras
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: they can make more money.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Weirdest thing.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: It's the weirdest thing ever. Control a lot of it
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I've saw.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: There as a lot of comments saying like that they
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: think the documentary was very surface level. I thought that
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: as well, and it is surface level. It was hard
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: to document that though. And but here's the thing as well,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: as like, I think that it was surface level on
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: purpose because all of us, you know, everyone kind of
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: jen out for gen Z like they know that it exists,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: and like louis through, I'm not, I don't.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it is surface level. If it's not,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: But I saw one person saying that, like, we actually
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: aren't really the target audience. The target audience is people
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: that actually haven't heard of.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: This, So it's like education.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an educational I was thinking, as someone who
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: had a surface level of knowing what's going on, that
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: they could have gone a lot harder on them. The
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: only influence on I knew was HS Tiki Talkie, and
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I felt like they didn't put him in their place enough.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that's his goal.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: I don't think he wants to Like, all he wants
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: to do is try and get into their world, talk to.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Them, and he's amazing at it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: He's amazing at talking and asking questions and then just
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: shutting the fuck up and letting them talk their way
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: into the deepest grave and realizing themselves that what they're
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: saying is insane and then try and dig themselves out
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: of it. It is the most insane thing to watch.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: He goes to hit okay, so Hstoki hates Bonnie Blue right,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: thinks she's disgusting, revolting, gross, blah blah blah, And so
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Lewis Thru's like, oh, so you you you hate her?
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: Why do you interview her? And is like TikTok. He goes, oh, clout, mate, clout,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: and he goes, okay, cool. He goes, well, he said,
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: I joined your telegram actually, and you you promote that
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: porn and only fans and all these things is revolting
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: and gross and and hs TikTok. He's like, yeah, yeah,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: it's gross, mate, gross.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: And he goes, well, then you have.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: In there you are promoting only fans pages for them
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: to go and pay and watch, and hs tik Talk's
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, Like I don't have to like it,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: but I'll profit off it. And so then and then
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: lu three goes, you're not far off being Bonnie Blue then,
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: and he likes tiktoki saw red from that. He's like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: what are you talking about, mate, Don't say that.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Don't don't compare me to her. That's gross. Don't compare
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: me to her.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: And he's like, what's the difference between her saying that
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: she's doing everything she's doing right now, whether it be
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: right or wrong, her decisions don't matter because her children
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: are going to have a good future and not two
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: seconds prior, fucking hs Tiktoki is saying that his kids
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: are going to be like very fulfilled and have a
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: very good future. And then HTKK just getting norm mad
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: like doesn't know what to say, and lu thre goes, you're.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: What's the word you're rationalizing it like.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: Just because like just because you say you don't like it,
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: like you're rationalizing doing the wrong thing. Even asks him,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: he says, have you ever considered doing the right thing
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: being a good guy? And h tiki TALKI goes if
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I was a good guy, I wouldn't be where I am.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Which is facts crazy and what men do rationalize their
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: scenarios with other toxic men. They get in this kind
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: of like wolf pack mentality with a bunch of irrational
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: men who have the same ideologies about women, wealth, views, politics,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: everything like that, and then they all get in this
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: little bubble and they think that that bubble is right
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: and they don't really understand what's going on in life.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: But then they put their opinions to the broader public
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: and they start to cause a movement, which is a problem.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: And when lu Through first meets HS Tiki TALKI, he
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: goes in and h Tiki TALKI has I think maybe
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: a girlfriend at the time, and he introduces her to
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: lu Through as the dishwasher, right, and she's laughing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: And she's like yeah, and lu Through is like what
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the fuck?
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: But he shakes it and he says, I'm nice to
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: meet you, like I think maybe I've seen you on
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: TikTok and stuff like that. And then he straight away like, oh,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: so what do you like about his name's Harrison. She
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: says what do you like about Harrison? And she goes,
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: here's money. Yeah, and like you could see in the
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: kind of laughs it off like oh yeah, mate, he
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: was hope by yeah, he was like, actually hope like
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: that affected him. He would obviously say to anyone that
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: it doesn't, but like that actually affected him to and
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: like imagine, literally the only thing you have going for
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: you is your money because everything else about you sucks.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we said in this episode or
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: the last episode. But no one cares. Yeah, no one
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: cares how much money you have. No one cares how
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: nice a car is, like how you are as a person.
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, by all means, if you have a lot
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: of money and you want people to know, you can
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: post that shit. You can post the car, you can
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: post the money, you can post the lifestyle. But if
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: you're also posting promoting being a shit human, that's fucked up.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Like be a good.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Person number one, that should come first.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we have one more.
• 36:55
  Speaker 10: There's so many things that man could be doing, but
• 36:58
  Speaker 10: one of them is pressing me off to day stop
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: sexting me.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Free mesters in to us mutching on a dating app.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: I was on a.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Fucking day flat with me a person, dude.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Valid, Okay, Sexting is something that happens way more than
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: we think. Yeah, obviously it needs to be all consensual
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: or whatever, But like I have never done unbeknownst, I
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: was unbeknownst, especially prior to this podcast, how normalized it was,
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: which is crazy.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: It's just not a good idea. Once again, showcase your personality,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: have a really good time. It's not about the sex.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Sex is an added perk of getting to know someone
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: and connecting on another level.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Do you think you could confidently.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Like, let's say, I couldn't do it to my girlfriend
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: of three years right now, to send a dick pic.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, no, that's what I'm saying. I'm
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: not talking about that. I'm not talking about senate news.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about sending her like you know, all I've
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: been doing is thinking, like starting off like they've been, Like,
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: all I've done is think about you all day and
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna lie, like I'm pretty hard right now.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I think then really like get the build up that
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: you sext a bit before you see her, then you
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: see her and like give her a kiss, and then
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: like you really build up the four play for the
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: whole day, Like I've never done that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I have never done that either. I think the way
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I would do it, I could do it in a
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: very PG manner. Yeah, I couldn't do it in like
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: dirty like what I'm going to do to you tonight
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: or like.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: This would be this would be audio.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: He'd be like, not gonna lie later, I'm gonna fucking
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: nibble on your lips No, I would ever say that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: The clip of you saying that you're like, I've been
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: inviting you on the lips, and then so many of
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: the comments were like my sweet sweet boy, my dear
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: sweet child.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I would go down the avenues of like I've been
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: thinking about her, how beautiful she is, how much I
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: want to see her, how much I want to kiss her.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: That's boring, that's boring. Yeah, but that's I want to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: kiss you all over. True. I would say that. I
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: would say that, Yeah, everyone, what would you do?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. You wouldn't do it at all.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: But if I couldn't, col I could try. You could
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: surely you would say, oh, like I'm keen to see like.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: True, it would have to start off slow because I
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to confidently go on and be like
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: I want to bend you over and again.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I couldn't.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: And also, someone that you've never seen before, and you're
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: saying that too, is crazy.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Have some of rapport?
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Respect Like two messages in on a dating app.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I suppose they're showing their intentions early, which is crazy. Well,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: and I guess, as two men, what do we do
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: in life to portray a healthy masculinity.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: That's a great question because one of the big things
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: I saw about this ministry documentary is like he focused
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: that people were saying he leu through focused a lot
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: on the bad men, but like and he said in
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: the thing, like, you know, young men need better role models,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: and then a lot of people are saying, like.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Well, Louis, where are they? So it's a good question.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know, Robert Irwin, if you're a
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: young man, everyone share this with your young friends.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're a man in general, Robert looks like
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: a good.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Man, lead by example, and yeah, I get be more vocal.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe be more vocal.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: We're not very good at portraying our views and emotions
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: when they are showing healthy masculinity, we kind of just
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: keep quiet being more vocal and showcase that a man
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: can have masculine and feminine traits and still be a man.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: You don't have to be toxic and ruling to be
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: a man. And I think it's just betraying yourself and
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: being I don't know, I think a lot of like
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: because the worst copout is saying there's a lot of
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: there are a lot of healthy men out there, but
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: those men go under the radar.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Quite a lot.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think now we obviously we've said lots. So
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: our audience is ninety percent women. Yeah, maybe ninety five
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: percent women. So ninety five percent of the people listening
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: to this are women, and not that this is a
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: women's issue, like this is a men's issue that needs
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: to be fixed. But I guess like with our platform,
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: the only thing we could say is if you're a
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: man or a woman listening, like.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Just being more vocal would be good.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Maybe to younger people you know or friends of yours,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: you could recommend just like call them out and recommend
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: someone else to watch.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think standing by what you know is right.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Don't let the sly misogyny go.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: That's what happens micro misogyny.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Say hey dude, that's wrong. Yeah, hey dude, that's not on.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Explain to him how I said, person who's getting cat
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: call might feel makes him feel unsafe. Ah, all these
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: things that add up over time. Yeah, don't let the
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: micro aggressions kind of add up.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that, I would say, and let
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: us know more.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like were coming missing the market, but like no,
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: I would say, something I'm guilty of.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: In the past is.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: Staying friends with a friend group that I don't know,
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Like our whole friend group when we were younger was
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: honestly probably just like pretty gross and like fucking just
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: like had shitty views. And it's like if you are
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: in a friend group like that, it's just like, if
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: I could go back, I would say, there's like multiple,
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: multiple times where it's like there would have been chances
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: where anyone could have been like no, no, that's that's
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: not right, but everyone's too scared to do it. And
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: like that's the thing is, like what are you scared
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: of it? You're scared of losing your friends, and it's
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: like why do you want to be friends with them anyway?
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: But it's hard to like talk about a problem when
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: you don't know the answer to the problem. But I
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: think it's also when the answer is easy. That's the
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: hard thing. Is like it's hard to talk about a
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: problem when the answer is easy. But also not if
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: that makes any sense because the answer is easy, don't
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: be a fucking dick.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Exactly, But it's also good to talk about it. Yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: needs to be spoken about.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: Yea.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: It needs to be spoken about and coming from a
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: place of learning and acknowledging that there's an issue and
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: we want to we want to help change that.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: How can we change that?
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's kind of I guess like one way,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: one thing in the right direction is better role models.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I would say that's definitely one answer. No, I agree.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: All right, Bad, This was a little bit of a
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: different episode.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, we love you, stay bad
• 44:00
  Speaker 10: And