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Speaker 1: Welcome to the favorites of the podcast from the Volume
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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I am Chad Mowman, Chief Content Officer of
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Speaker 1: the Action Network. Big Big Show. Because the Stanley Cup
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Speaker 1: playoffs have begun. Game one is done. It was thrilling.
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Speaker 1: In a few minutes, we're gonna bring on Action Network
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Speaker 1: Hockey analyst Mike Lieboff, the Man, my bff, my companion,
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Speaker 1: my compadre, professional better Simon Hunter, named as the person
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Speaker 1: most likely he would nominate for President of the United
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Speaker 1: States from the Action Network. Simon, I know you love
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Speaker 1: when Leeboff comes in you you have an affinity for
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Speaker 1: Leeboff that runs very very deep. I love it. It's
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Speaker 1: pure fake because right now our shows are on our
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Speaker 1: old schedule time and we're putting out our shows early
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Speaker 1: in the day. We'll be doing NBA, Chad, we want
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Speaker 1: to do an NBA final show. We talked about the
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Speaker 1: game tonight, but no, Luckily the gods have given us
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Speaker 1: this eleven and PM release time, so we have Leeboff
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Speaker 1: on the talk to NHL. Stanley Cup because now the
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Speaker 1: basketball is over, we care about hockey again. Chad, so
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Speaker 1: I love it. We we both talked about it last
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Speaker 1: night that game Game seven, I mean, game one, go
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Speaker 1: into overtime. It's hockey is the best. It's just what.
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Speaker 1: It was a three one. I just remember turning to
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Speaker 1: my buddy and being like, when a team's up to oh,
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Speaker 1: you know, the team's gonna come back and tie it.
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Speaker 1: So I can't wait here what Leo is gonna say,
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Speaker 1: because to me, it's It's why we love hockey so much.
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Speaker 1: It's the best playoffs sport, the drama, it's the best
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Speaker 1: in a four in a in a first game for
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Speaker 1: three overtime stunner. You can't ask for a better start
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Speaker 1: to a playoff series. So I'm gonna I want leave
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Speaker 1: Off to go deep on how he bet before the
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Speaker 1: series began, how he would reconsider his betting now. He's
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Speaker 1: got a lot of thoughts. Leadoff is it and veterate
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Speaker 1: hockey better? And um, I know I know for a
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Speaker 1: fact he will be betting Tampa in Game two. We
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Speaker 1: haven't even asked him that, just based on what the
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Speaker 1: money line price is going to be and how the
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Speaker 1: bookmakers adjusted. He will explain the strategy and logic behind that.
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Speaker 1: We do have to get to one thing you mentioned
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Speaker 1: NBA tonight Game six. You've got a considerable amount of
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Speaker 1: money on the Warriors to win the series. I have.
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Speaker 1: I have, Yeah, I have famously famously said Warriors and six.
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Speaker 1: I said it on the show, I said it on
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Speaker 1: the Twitter. I've said it to anyone who would ask.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. When you and I
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Speaker 1: were together on Friday night after the Phillies game, I
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Speaker 1: went back to my hotel in Philly that we were
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Speaker 1: catching the second half of the Warriors Celtics game. You
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Speaker 1: texted me to make sure I was still awake, because
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Speaker 1: normally I would be asleep at ten o'clock. I did
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Speaker 1: stay up that night. My heart was in my chest.
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Speaker 1: Not so much because I bet on the Warriors to
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Speaker 1: win in six. I bet on the Warriors to win
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Speaker 1: in seven. I also don't forget that game that was
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Speaker 1: Game four, Steph went off for forty three. I also
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Speaker 1: have a pretty sizeable bet on Steph to lead the
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Speaker 1: series in points per game, in threes per game. Uh
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Speaker 1: So I'm feeling really good about that. But a reminder,
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Speaker 1: Noman said, Warriors and six. And this is when all
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Speaker 1: of the models, all of our experts, everybody in the
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Speaker 1: world is like, Celtics are the better team. Take the underdogs.
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Speaker 1: Take the Celtics. You and I together, we were aligned.
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Speaker 1: Warriors are gonna win this series. They we're a couple
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Speaker 1: of bed. My favorite line too is people are talking
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Speaker 1: about historical defferense from Boston. I've believe only one team
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Speaker 1: in the series been held under three under a hundred
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Speaker 1: points three times. That team isn't Golden State. The team's Boston,
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Speaker 1: So just a classic. People overrate certain things. They they
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Speaker 1: just want the new toy to be the best toy.
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Speaker 1: And me and Chad we like the old toy. We
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Speaker 1: like Golden State story, and we bet on the best
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Speaker 1: player and the best coach and working out for us.
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Speaker 1: Who would have thought back in the coach he's coached
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Speaker 1: and what is its six NBA finals now he played
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Speaker 1: in three, would be a smart move instead of playing
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Speaker 1: the rookie head coach. But yeah, dude, he's won. He
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Speaker 1: won five NBA titles as a player. That's crazy. You're right,
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Speaker 1: because he got that one with San Antonio too. Right,
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Speaker 1: he's got a couple with san Antonio. He got he's amazing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, look at us, Look at us. Let's bring
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Speaker 1: in Leeboff, who you said, if anybody from the Action
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Speaker 1: Network should be President of the United States, it's Mike Lieboff.
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Speaker 1: Explain yourself and let Leeboff respond. My whole theory is,
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Speaker 1: you need someone to be a little crazy, which we
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Speaker 1: both know a Leeboff is you need someone have in
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Speaker 1: their core a good soul. And I can tell this
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Speaker 1: man might be a little crazy, bet as core. He's
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Speaker 1: a good guy, and that's I feel like we're lacking
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Speaker 1: when these last I don't know how many presidents we
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Speaker 1: had where it's like eventually they get in there, they
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Speaker 1: get a little corrupt. I don't know how you corrupt Leeboff.
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Speaker 1: This man only cares about the Islanders. Maybe if the
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Speaker 1: NFL commissioner, the NHL commissioner came and said, hey, we'll
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Speaker 1: give you a Stanley cup if you get rid of
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Speaker 1: these electric cars and help these gas coming out, and
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Speaker 1: maybe Leoff would be like, all right, I'm about it.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Just feel like it'd be hard
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Speaker 1: to corrupt this man and me I could be easily corrupted.
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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm looking at Leeboff saying we need
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Speaker 1: this kind of leader. We need you know what I
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Speaker 1: think before we let Leeboff jump in a agree with you.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think you're easily corrupted. I
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Speaker 1: guess what I would say is you could be easily
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Speaker 1: corrupted in your heart. You would only be corrupted on
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Speaker 1: things that like won't hurt anybody else. I think you
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Speaker 1: always fall on the right side of history. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: I'm corrupted if someone, if someone came there said we'll
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Speaker 1: build you seventy water parks if you let us mind
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Speaker 1: the cop rut of this one mind on the side
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Speaker 1: is really beautiful neighborhood, I would say, get rid of
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Speaker 1: that neighborhood, give me those seventy water parks. I'd be
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Speaker 1: tough in that way. But yeah, no, like morally, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm pretty pretty good with that stuff. Leave off.
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Speaker 1: What's your What are you going to campaign on? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think I think Simon's sort of right. I'd love
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to be corrupted, but it just hasn't hasn't
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Speaker 1: happened yet. I can run a racket. I mean I
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Speaker 1: used to run a racket at the bar I bartended
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Speaker 1: that with that that had joker poker machines that paid
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Speaker 1: out of the cash register. But my rule was that like,
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Speaker 1: as long as nobody nobody's getting hurt, Like you're signing
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Speaker 1: up to go into a bar and drink and gamble,
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Speaker 1: like that's on you and you've got to take the
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Speaker 1: responsibility of what can come out of that. But if
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Speaker 1: if you're not, if you're if you're not part of
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Speaker 1: the game or the system, I just don't want to
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Speaker 1: hurt you or hurt your feelings and I want to
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Speaker 1: treat you with with respect. So you know, in terms
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Speaker 1: of politics, I used to be in the world of
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Speaker 1: politics for for a hot minute. If you sign up
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Speaker 1: for politics, it's similar, right, like you're signing up for
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Speaker 1: the choice of selling your soul or or fighting the
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Speaker 1: good fight. So for me, I would like to think
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Speaker 1: and I did go go for fighting the good fight,
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Speaker 1: and it didn't work. I got railroaded pretty hard and
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Speaker 1: it was tiring and annoying. But if someone approached me
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Speaker 1: it was like, you know, we want you to do
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Speaker 1: it again, I would listen to them. Every decision has context,
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Speaker 1: Like we look at everything is black and white, but
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Speaker 1: that's just not how it works in the real world.
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Speaker 1: It's not how it works in a bar either, Like
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Speaker 1: people need to get a grip on that. I do
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Speaker 1: think there's something to unpack it or which is about
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Speaker 1: living by a very particular code, right, I leave off
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Speaker 1: in a second. I want you to explain to people,
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Speaker 1: because we've opened this Pandora's box a little bit what
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Speaker 1: you're talking about with the politics and the road roading,
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Speaker 1: because we I don't know if we've unpacked it on
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Speaker 1: the show. But you know, in Vegas, amongst gamblers, there's
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Speaker 1: a code, right. And while you could argue that gamblers
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Speaker 1: from the old time days, whether they were mafia connected,
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Speaker 1: mafia adjacent, or just professional wise, guys who weren't connected
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Speaker 1: to any sort of illegal outfit at all, all lived
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Speaker 1: by a very particular code in which you did the
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Speaker 1: right thing, no matter what the circumstances. Like I know
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Speaker 1: guys in Vegas who owed people money, and before they
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Speaker 1: had a chance to pay this money, which was upwards
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Speaker 1: of seven thousand dollars, uh, the person that they owed
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Speaker 1: died natural causes. They still wrote the widow a check
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Speaker 1: for seven thousand dollars. Just certain code like things that
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Speaker 1: exist that you guys are talking about that is commonplace
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Speaker 1: in the gambling world. Leaveoff explain your political roads in glory.
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Speaker 1: It is all about a code and professional gamblers, people
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Speaker 1: who bar regulars, like they usually police themselves. Like the
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Speaker 1: bar I worked at was was not a bar of
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Speaker 1: repute at all, Like it was ugly gambling going on
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Speaker 1: all over the place. Nobody came in there that wasn't
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Speaker 1: a regular basically. But I only had to break up
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Speaker 1: in like three or four years of working two fights,
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Speaker 1: one between telephone Mike and this guy Marcus and another
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Speaker 1: between two people who never came to the bar. But
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Speaker 1: other than that, like they police themselves, and that's what
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Speaker 1: I believe in. Like like I'm not I don't want
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Speaker 1: to meddle. I don't know what it's like to be,
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Speaker 1: you know, Simon Hunter every day Like I'm I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna trust that Simon Hunter can can make the right
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Speaker 1: decisions first Simon Hunter and and hopefully help society. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: when I was twenty one two thousand eleven, I ran
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Speaker 1: for mayor on a platform I like like to call
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Speaker 1: utopian and idealistic. I grew up in a suburban town
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Speaker 1: on Long Island, and I just wanted to, you know,
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Speaker 1: make it more friendly, not have the local government like
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Speaker 1: is like full of red tape and whatever, and so
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Speaker 1: I tried to like simplify things. And at first, like
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Speaker 1: my candidacy got some hype as you could imagine a
10:47
Speaker 1: twenty yest year old running for mayor would, and you
10:51
Speaker 1: know a lot of the ideas I had on my
10:52
Speaker 1: platform ended up being roped into the winner his platform.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I got I got railroaded a couple of times.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're are some weird local local election laws
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Speaker 1: that that they made up on the spot. Like the
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Speaker 1: day before I think there was a Memorial Day parade.
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Speaker 1: They called me and we're like, just so you know,
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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to march in parades. That sounds stupid
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Speaker 1: and I wasn't planning on marching in a parade, but
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Speaker 1: that's fine. And then the next morning I had like
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Speaker 1: twenty people call call me, call my parents like where
11:19
Speaker 1: is he? Why isn't he get to Memorial Day parade?
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Speaker 1: Does he not care about the troops? And I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what you just told me? I couldn't do it. So
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Speaker 1: then I went I was like, Okay, I guess I
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Speaker 1: gotta like, you know, show up and be a politician
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Speaker 1: in this parade and do what politicians do in parade,
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Speaker 1: which is walk, which is just goes to show you
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Speaker 1: how low the bar is for for politicians. So then
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Speaker 1: I did, and as I was doing it, the the
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Speaker 1: local elections chief like came up to me, was like,
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Speaker 1: we told you you can't walk in this, and I said,
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Speaker 1: someone just told me like I have to, and they're like, well,
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Speaker 1: who was it was an elections official? I said no,
11:47
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, those are probably people who worked
11:49
Speaker 1: for your opponents, like trying to get you in trouble,
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Speaker 1: like get out of here. So then a couple of
11:54
Speaker 1: weeks later, there was a debate totally dumb on both
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Speaker 1: my part, like it was a mistake on my part
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Speaker 1: to to turn down the debate because it was it
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Speaker 1: was basically going to be set up for the guy
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Speaker 1: who won. Plus I was twenty, you know, I didn't
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Speaker 1: know how to debate obviously. So I went to bonaro
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Speaker 1: I tickets for Bonnaroo. So I went down to Manchester, Tennessee,
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Speaker 1: and that day Newsday called me. They were like, hey, we're,
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Speaker 1: you know, doing a a story on local elections, and
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Speaker 1: we're we know that there's a debate tonight, so we
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Speaker 1: just wanted to talk to you and whatever. UM. So
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Speaker 1: I did the interview. It did fine, and like as
12:29
Speaker 1: you can imagine, I was at Bonnaroo, so I was
12:31
Speaker 1: a little overserved and made me indulged in some stuff
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Speaker 1: and did the interview. Was fine. I thought that the
12:37
Speaker 1: interview went well, but my opponent found out I was
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Speaker 1: I was there. It got out pretty quickly that I
12:42
Speaker 1: turned down the debate to go to a music festival,
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Speaker 1: whereas I legitimately turned it down just because I didn't
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Speaker 1: want to do it. I find debates to be abhorrent
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Speaker 1: and useless. You know, it's all bullshit. I would have
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Speaker 1: loved to have seen you with Mayor. That's all I
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Speaker 1: gotta say about that. Last night in Game one of
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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup in Denver, UH Colorado, which had been
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Speaker 1: a season long favorite UH. If they win this series
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Speaker 1: could go down as one of the three or four
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Speaker 1: best teams in NHL history. Unbelievable offense, great smothering defense,
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Speaker 1: planned Tampa Bay Lightning, two time defending champ in the
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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup. They also could go down as a dynastic
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Speaker 1: franchise with a win. Like this being one of the
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Speaker 1: third team to win three Cups in a row, and
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Speaker 1: for some reason, like I looked at this like more
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Speaker 1: than ever before, as Tampa being a much bigger long
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Speaker 1: shot than they would have been in the other two
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Speaker 1: Stanley Cups. And in the first period, Colorado dominated to
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Speaker 1: me right, like more shots on goal that kept the
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Speaker 1: puck in Tampa Bay's uh end of the ice. They
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Speaker 1: are up three one forty eight seconds. In the span
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Speaker 1: of forty eight seconds in the second period, Tampa Bay
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Speaker 1: ties it. What was your reaction to the game last night?
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Speaker 1: Who did you bet to begin the series? Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: bet the Lightning and I also bet their goaltender Andre
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Speaker 1: Bazilewski to pitch a shutout, which will go down as
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Speaker 1: as a bad bet, but I will do it again,
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Speaker 1: probably for Game two. He's just that good. It kind
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Speaker 1: of I thought there's a chance Colorado would be rusty
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Speaker 1: off the long break in hockey they implemented by Weeks
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Speaker 1: a couple of seasons ago, and it became evident that
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Speaker 1: the team teams off of long layoffs if they're playing
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Speaker 1: a team that is in some sort of rhythm, they
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Speaker 1: tend to struggle because it's had such a rhythm sport,
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Speaker 1: especially with the goaltender. Colorado was not rusty. No, they
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Speaker 1: were not. Um, they're really good. This is the second
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Speaker 1: time that they've won game one off a sweep, which
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Speaker 1: is usually, like I said, a pretty good spot to
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Speaker 1: have to fade a favorite like that. I think it's
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Speaker 1: like before last night, since that a team, the team
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Speaker 1: that swept lost the game one. But if it was
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Speaker 1: like all things being equal, there was no rust verse
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Speaker 1: rest narrative. I think that game kind of went how
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Speaker 1: I expected it. Like Colorado is gonna dominate the puck,
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Speaker 1: They're gonna dominate the shot clock and uh scoring chance battle.
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Speaker 1: But Tampa Bay is such a good counterpunching team and
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Speaker 1: they have the gold goalie to to keep them in
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Speaker 1: games where they're dominated, they'll just hang around and they
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Speaker 1: have this like innate they I mean, they broke in
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Speaker 1: my heart twice. They beat the Islanders in the last
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Speaker 1: two Eastern Conference Finals in a game six and then
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Speaker 1: in a game seven. That game seven was one nothing
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Speaker 1: win where Tampa Bay kind of just sat back and
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Speaker 1: and just waited for one mistake from the Islanders and
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Speaker 1: they got it. Against the Avalanche, It's it's it's gonna
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Speaker 1: take a little bit more. But Colorado plays a such
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Speaker 1: a high risk, higher rewards type of play that they're
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Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to to hang around in the series.
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Speaker 1: Whether they win it or not, who knows, But uh,
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Speaker 1: they can just absorb so much pressure and so much pace,
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Speaker 1: and they blocked shots so well. You'll you'll hear that
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Speaker 1: on the broadcast like they're the best shot blocking team
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Speaker 1: in the NHL, which, um, it's honestly true, Like they're
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Speaker 1: they're so good at getting in lanes and and when
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Speaker 1: you block a shot, what happens, Like the puck can
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Speaker 1: go anywhere, and they have the forwards that know, like
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Speaker 1: they they're so trained to know that I need to
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Speaker 1: be first to that puck. And if I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to be the guy to the puck, I need to
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Speaker 1: be the guy, you know, running the go route looking
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Speaker 1: for the past to spring on man rush. And we
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Speaker 1: saw a couple of those last night. I mean the goal,
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Speaker 1: the Kucharov goal Uman that was a lot, but the
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Speaker 1: pass from kucharav Like, they're so good on on man
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Speaker 1: rushes that you give them three opportunities, they're probably gonna
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Speaker 1: score two. So uh, it's it's a great battle between
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Speaker 1: styles make fights, and it's a great battle between someone
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Speaker 1: who wants to be super super aggressive uh and then
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Speaker 1: the other team that is totally okay with that and
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Speaker 1: they'll rope a dope and then try to strike back
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Speaker 1: on the counter. I mean, honestly, for me, I bet
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Speaker 1: the Lightning before the series started because of what Lee
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Speaker 1: Buffs just talked about. I thought the Ads would come
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Speaker 1: out sloppy and it's kind of heartbreaking where they were
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Speaker 1: literally one bounce away from taking that game. I mean
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Speaker 1: that third period, how many chances in Tampa Bay have
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Speaker 1: to get that goal and it was just I mean,
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Speaker 1: that was that was really tough. Especially That's just to
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Speaker 1: me that would be a big deal. Is that you
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Speaker 1: just talking about Ads are a young team, Like if
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Speaker 1: Tampa would have gone up one ol, I honestly think
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Speaker 1: that had have been a huge deal in this series.
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Speaker 1: But for me, is that some of that back Tampa
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Speaker 1: before that punk Eveen dropped last. I'm not worried at all,
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Speaker 1: Like if you if you bet on Tampa win this series.
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Speaker 1: They were just down to out of the Rangers, and
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Speaker 1: if you believe in them at the sad time, which
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Speaker 1: I did, you're just not worried at this point. They
17:09
Speaker 1: as I think Gas are a really good team, but
17:12
Speaker 1: Tampa is so proven. I really watching that game, Like
17:15
Speaker 1: you talked about them blocking the shots. It's incredible. Like
17:17
Speaker 1: that Florida series. I watched a lot of them versus
17:19
Speaker 1: the Panthers. That was insane, Like the Panthers were this
17:22
Speaker 1: really high octane offense and Tampa just shut it down,
17:26
Speaker 1: like literally every shot they would take they were just
17:28
Speaker 1: in front of Again, these guys are throwing faces in
17:30
Speaker 1: front of bucks like they are mental, this Tampa team.
17:32
Speaker 1: So I'm right there with the leadoff. I'm I'm on,
17:35
Speaker 1: I'm on Tampa. But it's interesting here in your view
17:38
Speaker 1: on the game after that first one, because it seems
17:40
Speaker 1: like you're not that worried either, Like you're still you
17:42
Speaker 1: still think Tampa is a good shot in this matchup. Yeah,
17:46
Speaker 1: this this kind of went as planned. I think right
17:49
Speaker 1: like they've lost game, they lost game, went to the leaves.
17:51
Speaker 1: They were outplayed for like the first five games of
17:54
Speaker 1: that series. Toronto probably should have won that series, like
17:57
Speaker 1: for one, maybe four two, um, and but Tampa just
18:02
Speaker 1: they don't panic. They kind of paste themselves in a
18:04
Speaker 1: series too, to get them to the point where the
18:06
Speaker 1: adjustments start to pay off and matter. Uh. And if
18:10
Speaker 1: they get to a game six or game seven in
18:12
Speaker 1: a series, like, they're probably going to win it because
18:14
Speaker 1: they just know how to navigate those those murky waters.
18:17
Speaker 1: And uh. Then they did it obviously again like you said,
18:19
Speaker 1: against the Rangers, like down to nothing to nothing in
18:23
Speaker 1: game three as well, and they come back without any
18:26
Speaker 1: panic and and rip off four wins. And there's just
18:29
Speaker 1: a quick aside like like I said, they did rip
18:33
Speaker 1: my heart out and eat in front of my face
18:35
Speaker 1: the past two springs. But then they beat the Lightning
18:38
Speaker 1: and the Rangers. Uh for obvious, the Leaves and the
18:41
Speaker 1: Rangers for me this this postseason. So I'm like all
18:43
Speaker 1: this forgiven. This team is totally good by me now
18:46
Speaker 1: because like the the existential dread that comes with the
18:49
Speaker 1: Leafs and the Rangers to like having a divisional rival
18:53
Speaker 1: in your own backyard making a run that they were
18:56
Speaker 1: very lucky, and and the difference between the Rangers and
18:59
Speaker 1: the Islanders, like when Islanders are making a run, you're
19:01
Speaker 1: a part of it, Like you can go to the building.
19:03
Speaker 1: You tickets aren't like crazy expensive. But with the Rangers.
19:07
Speaker 1: It's like they're just watching the Rangers make a playoff run.
19:09
Speaker 1: Like it's like Rangers fans watch a movie about Ranger,
19:12
Speaker 1: the Rangers making a playoff run, whereas Islanders are just
19:14
Speaker 1: a part of it, like living in it. Um, you know,
19:17
Speaker 1: I don't need to see Liam Neeson and Tom Hanks
19:19
Speaker 1: in the second row of Madison Square guard in every game.
19:22
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's like I was saying that the Lightning
19:24
Speaker 1: are just so good at just they'll just treadwater. They
19:28
Speaker 1: won't panic, like I mean, you even saw them yesterday
19:30
Speaker 1: after they lost the game, like they showed the tunnel
19:32
Speaker 1: shot and you know they nobody's like bent over like
19:36
Speaker 1: stick on, stick on knees. They just kind of just
19:38
Speaker 1: went to the locker room. Is this is what was
19:40
Speaker 1: supposed to happen like there there, This is where they're
19:42
Speaker 1: at their best. And honestly, even if they lose Game two,
19:46
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna panic like you could go into an
19:49
Speaker 1: oh three hole. Maybe. So I actually like Tampa on
19:52
Speaker 1: the series line. We we talked about this online change,
19:54
Speaker 1: which is our NHL betting podcast with me and my
19:58
Speaker 1: colleague so many sports that if you're gonna bet Tampa
20:01
Speaker 1: in Game two. You might as well also take a
20:02
Speaker 1: shot in them to come back and win the series,
20:04
Speaker 1: because if they win Game two, they flipped the script.
20:06
Speaker 1: It's home mice advantage for for the Lightning for the
20:09
Speaker 1: last best the best of five series. Now, so this
20:12
Speaker 1: team they're gonna be around Colorado is a different beast
20:15
Speaker 1: from from maybe the Rangers. But the Maple Leaves are
20:18
Speaker 1: were really good team all season, Like people thought that
20:21
Speaker 1: they were the third best team in the NHL behind
20:23
Speaker 1: Colorado and Florida. They already beat Florida, then they already
20:26
Speaker 1: beat Toronto, like they can hang with this team. So
20:29
Speaker 1: I'm not worried yet at all. Uh And I would
20:31
Speaker 1: encourage if you were to ask me a bet on
20:34
Speaker 1: Tampa to come back. So it's plus two thirty right
20:37
Speaker 1: now with Fandel, Tampa win the series. I right, So
20:39
Speaker 1: would you like better Tampa plus one plus one and
20:42
Speaker 1: a half for the series that plust one sixteen on Vandel? No,
20:45
Speaker 1: I would. I would just go go for them to
20:47
Speaker 1: to win the series. Price you mentioned the Rangers. During
20:51
Speaker 1: the Rangers Lightning series, the New York Post was all
20:55
Speaker 1: over this and they had a story about a little
20:57
Speaker 1: lesson a week ago about a Range's fan who cold
21:02
Speaker 1: clocked and knocked out a Lightning fan. You have a
21:08
Speaker 1: very specific angle on this story. To be clear, there
21:12
Speaker 1: was a Rangers fan who completely and totally after game six,
21:18
Speaker 1: I think at MSG, knocked out at Tampa Bay Lightning
21:22
Speaker 1: fan after the game. I'm not shocked that somehow you
21:26
Speaker 1: are tangentially connected to the story of a fight at
21:30
Speaker 1: MSG after a Rangers game. Yeah, yeah, it was game
21:33
Speaker 1: it was game five. So the Lightning just went up
21:35
Speaker 1: three two on a last minute goal off of Andre
21:39
Speaker 1: Plott Schimpad, And so Ranger fans were leaving the building, uh,
21:44
Speaker 1: in a huff and as they want to do, like
21:47
Speaker 1: that's totally okay. But then someone did something that's not
21:50
Speaker 1: totally okay, and and sucker punched a Lightning fan. It
21:53
Speaker 1: was like a gutless move. The video went viral and
21:56
Speaker 1: I known that. So my brother, my younger brother, Danny,
21:59
Speaker 1: he's been in the NYPD for quite a bit. He's
22:02
Speaker 1: he's a detective getting guns off the street, stimond getting
22:06
Speaker 1: guns off the street. But he every now and then
22:08
Speaker 1: we'll pick up details, and he picked up detail for
22:12
Speaker 1: a lot of the Ranger playoff games. Is just you know,
22:14
Speaker 1: pick up over time to work security at msg UH
22:17
Speaker 1: and helping you know, keep things because msg is right
22:20
Speaker 1: above Penn Stations, so a big piece of real estate
22:23
Speaker 1: in the city. Let's say. Um, so he was actually
22:26
Speaker 1: escorting this woman out of the building. She was throwing
22:29
Speaker 1: her out because she just chucked a full beer at
22:32
Speaker 1: a lightning fan after after the goal. So my brother
22:35
Speaker 1: was just escorted her out, turned back around to come
22:38
Speaker 1: back to his spot. And as that was happening, you know,
22:42
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, a bunch of Ranger fans, you know,
22:44
Speaker 1: to their credit where like, you know, stop that guy,
22:46
Speaker 1: Stop that guy, and he and they were like the
22:48
Speaker 1: guy with the red shirt, that guy had had a
22:50
Speaker 1: made a bad wardrobe decision. Rangers obviously they wear their
22:53
Speaker 1: blue sweaters at home and most people are in a
22:56
Speaker 1: blue sweater. This guy had a red Rangers jersey. On
23:00
Speaker 1: was from Staten Island, Chad. But because you and I
23:02
Speaker 1: know that a stereotype that I don't believe in. I
23:04
Speaker 1: think people from Staten Island are are great. I love
23:07
Speaker 1: Stanton Island. So this guy cold Cox someone makes a
23:12
Speaker 1: bee line for the exit and my brother tackled him
23:15
Speaker 1: into a merch table and detained him. And he had
23:17
Speaker 1: no idea this is the best. But it was his
23:18
Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday over the weekend, and so I saw him
23:21
Speaker 1: and I was we were just talking about the story.
23:22
Speaker 1: So he had no idea what happened. And in the morning,
23:25
Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of people have sent me this video.
23:27
Speaker 1: I texted it to him. I was like, tell me
23:28
Speaker 1: you arrest of this guy, he said, I did. I
23:30
Speaker 1: know he was what you set off the jump, Like,
23:32
Speaker 1: you're not surprised. I'm connected to it. But my brother
23:34
Speaker 1: just has a has like a weird way of just
23:37
Speaker 1: always popping up wherever there he's needed. And even when
23:39
Speaker 1: he was like twelve, like he rescued a dog on
23:42
Speaker 1: a frozen lake once. He was just like walking by
23:44
Speaker 1: and like some ladies, dog went onto the lake and
23:47
Speaker 1: was like scrambling and he saved it. Um so like
23:50
Speaker 1: he just has a way of kind of popping up
23:52
Speaker 1: in those spots. But he was telling me the story
23:54
Speaker 1: and he's like, I had no idea how big of
23:56
Speaker 1: a deal, Like it was. All he knew was this
23:59
Speaker 1: guy was being pointed by a crowd of people who
24:02
Speaker 1: were saying, like stop him. He did something he's so
24:04
Speaker 1: he's like, I didn't say he was arrested. I was like,
24:06
Speaker 1: I'm just detaining you. I have no idea what happened.
24:09
Speaker 1: I just need to like put you aside and until
24:11
Speaker 1: this cell gets settled. He put him in cuffs and
24:13
Speaker 1: and I guess the guy was like mouthing off and
24:15
Speaker 1: spitting at him. And then it was like, you know,
24:17
Speaker 1: I can't believe you do this to another Ranger fan.
24:18
Speaker 1: And my brother is like, I'm an Islander fan. That
24:22
Speaker 1: guy is in a heap of heap of trouble. One
24:25
Speaker 1: of my mom's best friend, her name is Teresa co
24:28
Speaker 1: from by Ridge, Brooklyn and an incredible Ranger fan. She
24:31
Speaker 1: she talked shipped to me all the time whenever the
24:33
Speaker 1: Rangers are making a run or the Islanders lose or whatever.
24:35
Speaker 1: Just respect I respect her so much. She was so
24:38
Speaker 1: upset because she was at my brother's birthday. She said
24:41
Speaker 1: something to me which really resonated, which was when when
24:42
Speaker 1: your team is on a playoff run, like, as a fan,
24:45
Speaker 1: you have a responsibility to be on your best behavior
24:47
Speaker 1: because if you're a fan that then provides a distraction,
24:50
Speaker 1: like that's not good, Like you everybody needs to be
24:52
Speaker 1: pulling the rope in the same direction. It's almost like
24:55
Speaker 1: when a pitcher is pitching a perfect game, like everyone
24:56
Speaker 1: leaves him alone, like you don't want to get in
24:58
Speaker 1: the way, like you're there to support the team. You're
25:00
Speaker 1: not there to distract from the team. And this guy
25:02
Speaker 1: did it. And she she looked at me and she's
25:04
Speaker 1: just like, this guy just cost us to Stanley Cup
25:06
Speaker 1: and she's she is that guy through this whole season
25:10
Speaker 1: at at the window. You know what, Teresa lives by
25:14
Speaker 1: a code. Danny Leeboff lives by a code. I think
25:18
Speaker 1: he'd be an incredible running mate for you when you
25:22
Speaker 1: run for president. We're very very different people, as you
25:24
Speaker 1: can imagine, because I literally would be the worst cap.
25:28
Speaker 1: I would let everybody go and be like, go on,
25:31
Speaker 1: I trust you. Just just learn learn from this mistake
25:34
Speaker 1: and and call me in a couple of years and
25:37
Speaker 1: let me know where you are in life so I
25:39
Speaker 1: can feel like I made the right decision. So the
25:41
Speaker 1: other video, the guy was yelling in his ear while
25:43
Speaker 1: they were walking down. If you're wearing away jersey as
25:46
Speaker 1: a fan and you just won a really tight game
25:48
Speaker 1: and you're in the Northeast, even in the South, I'm
25:50
Speaker 1: sure you might get knocked out, or West Coast. Unless
25:53
Speaker 1: you're in the Midwest. People don't be yelling at people's ear.
25:57
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, Chad, I went to a Phillies game,
25:59
Speaker 1: couldn't be nicer in the crowd. Right. If me and
26:01
Speaker 1: Chad were cheering and yelling every time Arizona was getting
26:05
Speaker 1: big hits, I'm sure someone would have followed us to
26:07
Speaker 1: the bathroom and trying to fight us. Because I'm just saying,
26:09
Speaker 1: these fans have crazy like these they don't think it's
26:12
Speaker 1: just as crazy fans. So I feel bad for that
26:14
Speaker 1: woman feeling that that ruined the repetition Ranger fans. I mean,
26:16
Speaker 1: everyone knows there's bad eggs. Like literally, I'm an Eagles fan.
26:19
Speaker 1: We have the worst fans in all of sports. I
26:23
Speaker 1: get that, Like I go to Eagles games. I see it.
26:26
Speaker 1: No one's hiding it, like we really are the worst.
26:28
Speaker 1: I don't think other Rangers fans is being classless. You
26:30
Speaker 1: got lucky where apparently he's fine, thank god. And apparently
26:34
Speaker 1: he got tickets right from Tampa Bay's ownership to their
26:37
Speaker 1: next game or something like that, which is again, no
26:39
Speaker 1: one's got punched the face. But it's nice that a
26:41
Speaker 1: class organization took care of this guy and hooked them up.
26:44
Speaker 1: Pretty lucrative knockout that he took. Yeah, Les, he knows
26:48
Speaker 1: you can eat a punch. Yeah, I listen. Anyone who
26:50
Speaker 1: wants to get more on the Stanley Cup, listen to him.
26:54
Speaker 1: That's Mike Leaboff and so many sports. That is his
26:58
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Speaker 1: are the Odds stories? I sure do. I got an
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Speaker 1: email last from Christopher Frost, who was the listener that
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Speaker 1: provided the Sports Illustrated coincidence story a few weeks ago,
29:08
Speaker 1: and I want to just read that email in its
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Speaker 1: entirety and get your guys reaction. It reads, Hey, guys,
29:16
Speaker 1: ever since you read my Sports Illustrated story a few
29:19
Speaker 1: weeks ago, I've gotten kind of freaked out whenever I
29:22
Speaker 1: noticed strange coincidences taking place. But last week I went
29:27
Speaker 1: to Disney World with my in laws and had a
29:29
Speaker 1: bizarre experience. I don't care if you even read this email.
29:32
Speaker 1: I just feel compelled to share it with someone. So
29:36
Speaker 1: my wife and I arrived in Orlando, and in the
29:38
Speaker 1: car from the airport, we're talking about Tim McGraw. Because
29:41
Speaker 1: I'm a better I asked my wife, how old do
29:44
Speaker 1: you think Tim McGraw is. I'll guess fifty four. My
29:48
Speaker 1: wife says, I'll take the over. Turns out she takes
29:52
Speaker 1: the win there. Later on, in the same ride, we
29:54
Speaker 1: discussed the new Live Golf Tour and became curious about
29:58
Speaker 1: the name, and we learned that Live is the name
30:02
Speaker 1: of the tour because it's l I V. The Roman
30:05
Speaker 1: numeral fifty four, and they selected it because of Birdie.
30:08
Speaker 1: On every hole on a standard par s course is
30:11
Speaker 1: a fifty four. When we arrive at the resort, we
30:15
Speaker 1: check in and we're assigned to building fifty four. At
30:19
Speaker 1: this point, I'm feeling a little strange, but I don't
30:21
Speaker 1: mention anything to anybody just yet. We head out immediately
30:24
Speaker 1: to the Disney park using the skyline. When we get
30:27
Speaker 1: into our gondola cart, I noticed that the number of
30:30
Speaker 1: our cart is of course, I finally tell my wife
30:34
Speaker 1: that this is getting a little crazy. Tim McGraw's age
30:37
Speaker 1: that lived tour, the building, the gondola all in one day.
30:40
Speaker 1: Next up, it's our time to get on our first ride.
30:44
Speaker 1: After the ride is over, my wife looks at me,
30:46
Speaker 1: her eyes popping out of her head. The carts on
30:48
Speaker 1: this ride also have numbers. She sees that three cards
30:51
Speaker 1: in front of us is number fifty one. She asked
30:54
Speaker 1: the people behind us, Hey, what's the number of our cart?
30:57
Speaker 1: You guessed atty. At the end of the day, we
31:01
Speaker 1: head back to the resort, used to the skyline again.
31:03
Speaker 1: We're in line waiting, and of course I see card
31:05
Speaker 1: number fifty four circling around towards us. I start shouting,
31:09
Speaker 1: no way, no way, But sure enough the amery confused
31:12
Speaker 1: looking staff member motions for us to get into kart
31:16
Speaker 1: fifty four. Now my wife is very legitimately freaked out,
31:19
Speaker 1: thinking something very strange is happening. And then turn and
31:22
Speaker 1: see that my mother in law is on the phone
31:24
Speaker 1: and has begun laughing. She was trying to make dinner
31:27
Speaker 1: reservations for our party of nine that night, but was
31:29
Speaker 1: told they couldn't accommodate a party of that size, and
31:32
Speaker 1: it said, offered her, quote a table of five and
31:34
Speaker 1: a table of four, and the weird number of games
31:38
Speaker 1: stopped there. I will note that this all happened on
31:40
Speaker 1: June nine, six nine and six times nine is well,
31:45
Speaker 1: you get it. Thanks love the show, sincerely, Christopher Frost.
31:50
Speaker 1: Holy fuck, that is a little bit freaky. Yeah, I
31:55
Speaker 1: mean I was. I have a weird thing with numbers two,
31:58
Speaker 1: Like I I see terms a lot, but that's like
32:01
Speaker 1: next level. Like basically, a really close friend of mine
32:04
Speaker 1: he weren't number forty four, so I have four and four.
32:07
Speaker 1: For some reason, my life pops up a lot um.
32:09
Speaker 1: Literally in my car, I just bought it's an M
32:11
Speaker 1: forty four. Like, It's just there's a lot of weird
32:14
Speaker 1: things like that, But that is really freaking such a
32:18
Speaker 1: small amount of time to keep getting five and four. Um,
32:21
Speaker 1: if I was you, I would have gone either played
32:22
Speaker 1: the lottery, maybe gone took casino and put all my
32:26
Speaker 1: money on fifty four. And I don't know, I didn't
32:28
Speaker 1: something to make money off that number because there someone
32:31
Speaker 1: was telling you something. Someone was trying to tell you something.
32:33
Speaker 1: So that is really weird that that's kept popped up,
32:36
Speaker 1: popping up that way, Simon, Can I tell you something?
32:39
Speaker 1: Talk to me? Do you want to know what my
32:41
Speaker 1: favorite number is? Yep? Is it really? That's so weird?
32:46
Speaker 1: No joke me and Chad and not discuss this. That
32:48
Speaker 1: is fucking weird. You'll appreciate the origins of this. Before
32:53
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's came to the Bulls in the early eighties,
32:56
Speaker 1: my favorite player, my favorite sport was basketball. My favorite
33:02
Speaker 1: team were the Philadelphia seventy sixers. My nickname was Dr
33:06
Speaker 1: C because I love Dr J so much. I love
33:09
Speaker 1: the number four, which was worn by Clint Richardson on
33:14
Speaker 1: that three seventy sixers team. And then I decided, well,
33:19
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of the number four, So why
33:22
Speaker 1: would I just want one four when I could have
33:25
Speaker 1: two fours? So growing up in any basketball league I
33:28
Speaker 1: played in, or when I played high school basketball, I
33:31
Speaker 1: went for the number fourty four. That is so weird, man, Yeah,
33:35
Speaker 1: that that number. A lot of good things happened my
33:37
Speaker 1: life and pops up whether it's weird. I like that
33:41
Speaker 1: Chad was called Dr C and he thinks it was
33:44
Speaker 1: because of Dr J and not because he probably looked
33:46
Speaker 1: like a young a diet trust. So you're calling him
33:49
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