Latest / Witness the Wonder Christian Podcast: Supernatural Christian Testimonies, Miracles, and God Stories / Living in Alignment With Who God Created You to Be | John "JR" Rennie Brushfires Ministry
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- 0:00Welcome to Witness the Wonder. I'm really excited to kick off
- 0:03Season 2 and this new year with today's guest, Jr.
- 0:06Rennie. He's the founder of Brush Fire
- 0:09Ministries. Jr's work focuses on helping
- 0:12people understand how God uniquely designed them, how he
- 0:16wired them, and how walking in that alignment with that
- 0:20decision brings clarity, peace, and purpose.
- 0:24But before we talk about spiritual gifts, alignment, or
- 0:26calling, I want to start where we always do with Witness the
- 0:30wonder. We want to start with the God
- 0:32story behind it all. Jr.
- 0:44Welcome. Thank you for having me.
- 0:45So often there's a powerful God story that unfolds long before
- 0:49we step into the purpose and plan that God created us for.
- 0:52Jr. I'd love for you to share the
- 0:55God story behind what's been unfolding in your life and how
- 0:58it's brought you to this season today.
- 1:00Well, thank you for the opportunity to be able to talk
- 1:02to you and your listeners. So in 1987, myself and a partner
- 1:06started a software company that specialized in wholesale
- 1:10distribution manufacturing software.
- 1:12We actually wrote it. I wrote a huge portion of it.
- 1:16My expectation was I was going to run that business until I
- 1:21retired in my mid 60s and then slowly wind it down.
- 1:25All that changed in 2015 when we, out of circumstances beyond
- 1:29my control, experienced our greatest loss.
- 1:32Now the problem was we had clients throughout North
- 1:34America, so I couldn't simply just close up shop, else their
- 1:38businesses would have really suffered.
- 1:40Plus I had employees. So I started cutting expenses
- 1:43and the only thing left for me to cut to actually make the
- 1:46numbers work was my compensation.
- 1:49So I did that, cut my salary to 0, and I went into 2016 going,
- 1:55all right, God, what's going on here?
- 1:57I tried to do consulting and open up some revenue in that
- 2:02way, which should have worked because the experience that I
- 2:05have is really sought after highly, but not available by
- 2:10many people. And nothing happened.
- 2:13May of 2016, very frustrated and wondering what God was doing
- 2:18here. I said out loud, I know you're
- 2:21behind this, what do you want? I didn't hear anything from God.
- 2:24It wasn't as if, you know, I got this word from on high, but he
- 2:28had me in a position of dependence and just wondering
- 2:32what was going on. So our family wasn't, you know,
- 2:35suffering in a sense that because we had a number of good
- 2:39years with the software company. So I don't want to paint this
- 2:41picture that we were impoverished, but negative cash
- 2:44flow is not a good thing. So.
- 2:46So after 9 to 10 months of that, a stranger came up and said,
- 2:49hey, I teach people how to interpret psychometric
- 2:52assessments. I think you'd be good at it.
- 2:54And then he told me how much. I said no, because 10 months of
- 2:58not having a paycheck, you don't simply just waste your money in
- 3:02something that doesn't make any sense.
- 3:03So I left that meeting, I went home, and all of a sudden the
- 3:06Holy Spirit is going do it. And it's like, God, this makes
- 3:09no sense, do it. So anyway, I called the guy back
- 3:12up, renegotiated the price, I got my wife and I to do it, and
- 3:16within a couple of short weeks I realized how accurate these
- 3:19assessments were. I wound up doing the training
- 3:22for nearly a year and in the winter of 2017, I got this
- 3:28epiphany. I want this for the church.
- 3:30See, this training was being taught in the in the environment
- 3:33that it was being used in historically.
- 3:36It was being taught as a corporate tool or even a
- 3:39counseling tool, but not something for the church.
- 3:42And when God gave me the epiphany, I want this for the
- 3:44church. It was like, good God, you do
- 3:45that. It sounds like a great idea.
- 3:47May of 2017, he comes by and I'm looking at this.
- 3:50I'm going, he wants me to do something with this.
- 3:53And part of what we developed for people is a purpose
- 3:56statement. Think of it as a your Ephesians
- 3:59210 good works that God created you to do.
- 4:02It's a compass to find that I purpose statement reads like
- 4:05this. I must strategically lead a
- 4:08gifted team to embrace the power of the God-given design for long
- 4:12term positive results. So I'm contemplating that the
- 4:15last section of that before long term positive results.
- 4:18That's just good fruit. That's God accomplishing his
- 4:21will through the medians of his children, but it was that middle
- 4:24section. How do I get God's people to
- 4:27embrace the power of their God-given design?
- 4:29It was like, all right, I've never written curriculum.
- 4:32I wasn't a published author at the time, but I came to the
- 4:35conclusion that's what he wanted me to do.
- 4:37As soon as I made the mental agreement to say, all right,
- 4:40I'll do this, God, he gave me the ministry's name, Brushfire's
- 4:43ministry. I know that it came in my head.
- 4:46I know that I was the very first person to speak it out, but I
- 4:50can't take credit for the name of the ministry because God
- 4:53simply gave it to me. I wound up writing the workshop
- 4:58materials, which ultimately became my first book, Divine
- 5:01Design, and did the first workshop in February 2018.
- 5:07And we've been on fire going, doing what is that God's asked
- 5:12us to do ever since 2:00. I guess like 2016, our first
- 5:16workshop was in 2018. Well, what really stands out
- 5:19there is that God doesn't rush any processes, does he?
- 5:22Two years. Still, it's still going on and
- 5:25it's like a I'm still following in obedience into what he's
- 5:28asking me to do next. Were there any moments during
- 5:31that season just felt confusing or uncomfortable or because you
- 5:34got a transition there? He was kind of stripping away
- 5:38old, you know, when you look back, can you see that clearly
- 5:41how his hand was moving and and working in your life at that
- 5:45point, how he was preparing you for where you are today?
- 5:47Absolutely. In fact, I just released my 6th
- 5:50book called Sparks Turn into Brush Fires.
- 5:52In that book I, I lay this out exactly what it is it was going
- 5:57through and it sucked. I'll be real honest, it really
- 5:59sucked because for guys, one of the very most important parts of
- 6:03how we see ourselves is our identity, our job, what it is
- 6:07that we do, that is how we associate with other men and and
- 6:11so forth. Even though I still own the
- 6:13company and the company's still going, after 10 years of trying
- 6:15to wind it down, it is still going.
- 6:17I'm still trying to wind it down and end it, but it's still
- 6:20going. Even though I owned it and I was
- 6:22still doing an occasional work for it, when I introduced myself
- 6:26to people, I felt like I was lying when I said I own a
- 6:30software company or that I'm a programmer or any of that,
- 6:34because that's not what I was doing.
- 6:37I wasn't doing that work at that time.
- 6:39I owned the company, still owned the company, but I didn't see
- 6:43myself from that perspective. So all that got stripped away in
- 6:46nine to 10 months of not getting a paycheck.
- 6:48Well, actually, at this point, nine years, all that, all that
- 6:52is part of the process of what God needs to do.
- 6:55The book I'm writing right now is why Discipleship Isn't
- 6:58Working. And it's it's the core of what
- 7:00our next workshop is going to be for discipleship.
- 7:03And one of the things I just recently wrote was that humility
- 7:07and submission are necessary as spiritual disciplines.
- 7:11In other words, this is something that you got to allow
- 7:13God to work in you to be able to do what it is that He's created
- 7:18you to do. They are direct targets at our
- 7:20heart. Our hearts is our soul for the
- 7:23most part. When the Bible talks about the
- 7:25heart, talking about the soul and a part of the spirit, but
- 7:27mostly the soul, our souls made-up of our intellect, our
- 7:31emotions, and our free will. Humility and submission is
- 7:35basically targeting the emotional part of you and the
- 7:39intellect part of you. Do you believe that God knows
- 7:44best? I know that sounds silly to say,
- 7:46but we don't live that way. Yeah, we'll say God knows best
- 7:49and then we go and live our own way.
- 7:50We we ignore his guidance. We ignore his promptings.
- 7:54And so we really do live like we think we know better.
- 7:57And when it comes down to what's best for us and our feelings and
- 8:01so forth. At that point in October of
- 8:032016, I didn't feel like God was really caring for me or loving
- 8:07me or providing for me. But what He was doing was you
- 8:11saying, I know what's best, son, I've got something better for
- 8:14you. It's here.
- 8:16Bow your intellect, bow your emotions, submit, humble
- 8:21yourself and allow me to lead you.
- 8:23And that's what happens whenever you're walking out your purpose.
- 8:27The last part of all that is obedience and that targets your
- 8:31free will. Now that you have humbled
- 8:33yourself and you submitted yourself to God or He has helped
- 8:37you along that way and he's told you what he wants you to do.
- 8:40Are you going to do it? It's, it's the sole aspect of
- 8:45all of us that God's trying to get our attention and our
- 8:48willingness, our free willingness to submit and humble
- 8:52ourselves so that we can be obedient to his call and in what
- 8:56it is that he wants to do in our lives.
- 8:58And that was a big part of 2000 and 1670.
- 9:01It's still a huge part of my life now because I still catch
- 9:04myself running ahead of God going, oh, I know what you want.
- 9:07I, you know, I got this figured out.
- 9:09God, I'll go ahead and do it. And, you know, he's like sitting
- 9:12there and going, yeah, that's not what I want you to do.
- 9:14But you go ahead and do that until you figure out that I'm
- 9:17not behind it. It's a constant process of
- 9:20humility, submission, and then ultimately obedience.
- 9:23Our stories are so similar, several years apart in the
- 9:27making. The same thing happened to me.
- 9:29And I had been a youth pastor for many years.
- 9:31And he's like, you need to step, you know, set that down, resign.
- 9:35Then I'd owned my own business for 18 1/2 years and he's like,
- 9:40you need to close that when your office leases up.
- 9:42And I'm like, OK, God, I don't understand what you're doing
- 9:45here. But just like you, he was
- 9:47stripping away all these things that I had tied to my identity.
- 9:52And I was found in this place of, OK, what now?
- 9:57God, it's very humbling. Like you said, when you get to
- 10:00that place where you're like, OK, everything that I thought
- 10:04defined who I am as a person. You've just taken it all or asks
- 10:09me. Let me just say this back up.
- 10:11He didn't take anything. He gave me, like you said, free
- 10:14will to give it back to him because all those things he had
- 10:19given me has gifts to help equip me, to help strengthen me in
- 10:24different areas, help provide financially for my family.
- 10:27He's like, will you give them back to me?
- 10:29Are they more important than me? And wow, how humbly is like you,
- 10:34like you said, okay, God, you're asking for control back.
- 10:38And how humbling that is to say, OK, here it is, I'll give it to
- 10:42you. And like you, I'm not nine years
- 10:45into no salary, I'm two years into no salary.
- 10:48But he's still providing. And each step of obedience is
- 10:53opening doors and opportunities that are mind blowing.
- 10:57Slowly he's revealing in me and through like witness the wonder
- 11:03and different other areas of my life that he's doing too.
- 11:06And new things for 2026 that are going to be coming that those
- 11:10early words that he gave me 18 at 25 of speaking to the nations
- 11:16of, you know, being an evangelist, things that I was
- 11:21like would never say out loud, you know, back then because, you
- 11:25know, I wasn't doing them. I totally relate to your story.
- 11:29And I think there's going to be so many people listening out
- 11:32there that are in that same spot that God saying, will you give
- 11:36me that thing? And it's so hard to do.
- 11:39Can what would you tell them how to do that?
- 11:42Do it, do it. Just do it because all right, so
- 11:46the six figure salary was nice. I'm not going to lie about that.
- 11:49That was nice. But I was operating out of duty,
- 11:52responsibility and obligation. I tithe, I read my Bible, I did
- 11:57this, I did that. I was doing all these duties and
- 12:01providing for my family and taking care of my
- 12:03responsibilities at at work and it was sucking all the life and
- 12:07joy out of me. Success was not a replacement.
- 12:10Financial success was not a replacement for joy.
- 12:13So from my perspective now, yeah, the six figure salary was
- 12:17nice. Short of that, being able to get
- 12:20excited about what I do to really push hard and
- 12:24implementing and writing these books and doing the coding for
- 12:27our ministry and all that stuff. I can do that.
- 12:30I can be excited about that. I can be inspired about that
- 12:33when I do a design discovery meeting.
- 12:35See the neat thing about what I do is I get to help other people
- 12:39discover for themselves what God wants them to do.
- 12:43So what God led me through as far is figuring out what He
- 12:47created me to do. I now have the privilege of
- 12:50showing other believers what they were created to do.
- 12:54Are you created as a counselor or teacher or an evangelist or
- 12:58apostle or prophet? What is your calling?
- 13:01Let's figure that out together and then let's get you to a
- 13:04place where God can lead you. That humility and submission
- 13:07part is part of it. This book I'm writing now, Why
- 13:11Discipleship Isn't Working is basically laying out all the
- 13:15necessary pieces and it's not a formula, it's not a program
- 13:19because God's children are too unique for A1 size fits all
- 13:22program. But these are milestones.
- 13:25OK, where are you in the humility and submission area?
- 13:28OK, if you don't rank yourself really high in that area, guess
- 13:31what? You got some work to do.
- 13:33You got some he. Will give you opportunities to
- 13:36do it, by the way. Yes, yes, whether you want to or
- 13:41not. Sometimes, yeah, I did not.
- 13:44I was not asking for this in 2016, but I'm glad that God knew
- 13:50best and and did it. That's The thing is that you
- 13:53want to do what God's created you to do because every aspect
- 13:58of who you are is then being used in that ministry.
- 14:02Now ministry is, is anything that God is involved in, Don't
- 14:06pigeonhole it to be just what the people on stage are doing or
- 14:09what that missionary is doing. That's unbelievably creative.
- 14:13I mean, really, he's taking me, a programmer business owner to
- 14:19use psychometric assessments. That was by the way, developed
- 14:23by a born again believer found out years after and to bring his
- 14:28people to an understanding of what it is that he wants to do
- 14:31in their lives. And now to inspire and to create
- 14:35a discipleship program where I train leaders how to walk other
- 14:40people out. See the things that he's taught
- 14:42me. I don't have a psychology degree
- 14:44is this is not my background, but what I found is this
- 14:48psychometric assessment. It was a lot like programming.
- 14:51I could see the bits and pieces in human beings that make them
- 14:54unique that God's placed in them.
- 14:57It's like code to me. So when I look at somebody's
- 15:00design, like in your case, your spiritual gifts were leadership
- 15:03and exhortation. We're very high and mercy and
- 15:06teaching. We're right below that.
- 15:07So part of what God wants to do through that one small spiritual
- 15:12gifts assessment is to lead people to the truths of His Word
- 15:16and to encourage them in that process.
- 15:19And why? Because you care about them.
- 15:22That is what those four spiritual gifts say, and that's
- 15:25a free assessment, but it's only one of the 11 that we use, and
- 15:29it's not psychometric. It's a spiritual assessment.
- 15:32So we can actually narrow that down into types of types of work
- 15:37and people that you need to accomplish your goals.
- 15:41We're designed to work as a body of Christ, which means my elbow
- 15:47tendon on my right arm is useless unless there's cartilage
- 15:51and muscle around it. Period.
- 15:54It's that the tendon, pure tendon in this world, in God's
- 15:59body of Christ, you better find that muscle and cartilage that
- 16:03you're supposed to be attached to.
- 16:04Those are different people with different giftings that can
- 16:08allow you to fulfill the part of you that God's wants to do
- 16:12through you. So just this process is
- 16:16fascinating for me. I I want to share it with other
- 16:20leaders and counselors and coaches, pastors to be able to
- 16:25show them how to lead their people in the way that God's
- 16:28created them. I want to take a moment to thank
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- 16:57I'm an idea person, right? I can come up with a million
- 17:00ideas. I have like at least 10 business
- 17:03ideas in my brain at any given time.
- 17:05Did you discern that this was a God LED assignment versus just a
- 17:11good idea or strictly just for you?
- 17:14First of all, there is a objective analysis of the
- 17:18giftings that you have. Mine came out as really being a
- 17:21very high leader, which was proven by my years of life prior
- 17:26to that. Business owner, soccer coach,
- 17:29father, church leader, all those things were part of what it was
- 17:33that God's in me. So that's that objective aspect
- 17:37of seeing how you're gifted then makes sense.
- 17:39The other one is to see if God is opening up the doors and
- 17:45making it possible. So I, I share the story about
- 17:48the inspiration to start the ministry.
- 17:51What I didn't share with you is where the curriculum for the
- 17:55ministry came from. So we've got these psychometric
- 17:58assessments, but the actual curriculum that I teach in the
- 18:01class is that's only about 15% of what I teach.
- 18:05I'm making the case in the class that God has a plan for your
- 18:08life and you need to trust Him and pursue it, and it's going to
- 18:11be the best decision as a believer that you've made.
- 18:14Well, I'm making that case. How do I make that case?
- 18:17Well, after I got that name of the ministry, after saying yes
- 18:20to God, that I'll write the curriculum, he prompted in my
- 18:23head that I had a file folder of things that I had written,
- 18:27articles, devotions that I read, messages that I gave at
- 18:31churches, very poems and poetry and all kinds of things.
- 18:36It says, you know, you've got a folder downstairs.
- 18:38So I went down and found in my office, pulled up, came upstairs
- 18:41and started pulling things out. That's chapter one.
- 18:44That's chapter 2. That's chapter 3, that's chapter
- 18:474. God had been rewriting the
- 18:49curriculum through my life for 20 years.
- 18:53I can point to various chapters in that first book in the
- 18:57workshop materials and I can tell you when that inspiration
- 19:01came. I can point to the article that
- 19:03I wrote in 2013 called What is Joy?
- 19:06Or the message that I gave in 2004, 2005 called What is your
- 19:12Purpose? I can point to all those
- 19:14different things and say this is when that happened.
- 19:16God had been doing this work through my life for 20 years and
- 19:20I didn't even know it until I sat down to actually pulled
- 19:24together into the workshop materials, which eventually
- 19:27became the divine design book. That would be a big clue.
- 19:31Then you start to look for encouragement.
- 19:33So along the way, there are people that were in that first
- 19:36class that were super encouraging that said, oh man,
- 19:39you're on the right path. And then I got prophetic words.
- 19:41My wife and I were picked out of a crowd of 2 to 500 people
- 19:46consecutively for three years, and we were given words of
- 19:50knowledge by prophets telling us about this ministry.
- 19:53So you look for those sort of confirmations, but it doesn't
- 19:57happen until you take those steps of faith.
- 20:00It wasn't until I went downstairs and pulled out that
- 20:02folder and go, well, I've already done a lot of this work.
- 20:06I'm not starting from scratch. Let's get started then.
- 20:10Look, people signed up for this workshop.
- 20:12Cool. Oh, wow.
- 20:13The second workshop, it's double the number of people that were
- 20:15in the first workshop. That's cool.
- 20:17You're looking for these areas of encouragement because the
- 20:19enemy is going to discourage you at every step of the way.
- 20:24There's a story that I tell in 2017.
- 20:26Our youngest son has epilepsy and he suffered with seizures
- 20:30for nearly 40 years now as I was in the midst of putting together
- 20:34that curriculum. He had a terrible, terrible belt
- 20:39and wound up going without meds for about 3 or 4 days.
- 20:42We were camping and couldn't be contacted.
- 20:46Found him comatose on the floor in his apartment and he probably
- 20:51wouldn't have lasted another day.
- 20:54Got him to the hospital and this is not the first time we've had
- 20:57real serious, serious health scares with our son.
- 21:01It happened in 2004, but my reaction in 2000 was anger at
- 21:05the church for not being there to help us as we were walking
- 21:08through that. My reaction 2017 was, who's your
- 21:12design to get all the resources necessary to get your son there
- 21:17safely and recognize what's behind this?
- 21:22It's the enemy trying to once again attack you through your
- 21:26child's health so that you don't do the work that God's called
- 21:29you to do. So I was saying sometimes
- 21:32opposition, unexpected demonic opposition, is a great
- 21:38indication that you're doing what it is that God wants you to
- 21:41do. I'm laughing.
- 21:42Because there was so much opposition to us actually
- 21:46recording today, they are lost electricity.
- 21:51I have this horrible cold and I periodically put my mute on and
- 21:55I'm coughing. This whole episode started about
- 21:58two months ago before I ever met Jr.
- 22:01One morning I was just praying. I was listening to worship and
- 22:05and God just kind of arrested me and he just started speaking and
- 22:09for 2 1/2 hours I was just right there in his presence.
- 22:13And he said you need to get into alignment with who I created you
- 22:17to be. You need to set down all the
- 22:20things that you're doing that isn't in alignment with who I
- 22:24created you to be. I was like, OK, immediately I
- 22:27knew one of the things that he was talking about.
- 22:30You mentioned that one of my spiritual gifts is teaching.
- 22:33As a teacher, you can teach anything.
- 22:35And I was teaching social media to a group of authors.
- 22:38And as the year had progressed, I began to feel my body tension,
- 22:42A nauseousness every time I would try to prepare for this
- 22:46teaching. And it was like I knew in my
- 22:48spirit he was saying, you need to lay that down.
- 22:51And as soon as I did, he began to open up different
- 22:55opportunities. Just things that I couldn't have
- 22:58dreamed up myself or imagined, you know, as I started walking
- 23:01down that path and then he, he connected you and I, as soon as
- 23:07we started talking, I was like, my goodness, this is the episode
- 23:11that God was speaking to me that he wants me to do an alignment
- 23:15because that's what Jr. does. He helps people get into
- 23:19alignment with who God created them to be.
- 23:22And so I just love how God works things out.
- 23:26But I want to ask you a question here, Jr., in regards that I
- 23:30didn't go through that whole monologue just to share my test,
- 23:33Simoni. But that's honestly the story
- 23:36behind why I felt led to do this conversation.
- 23:40What happens when we hold on to these things, even when they're
- 23:42they look good, but they no longer align with who God
- 23:46created us to be? When I took your assessment, it
- 23:49kind of put language around all this stuff that I was feeling
- 23:53about who God had created me to be.
- 23:55Why do you think having that language around how God has
- 23:57wired us is so important when it comes to alignment?
- 24:02So The thing is. Is that language is is important
- 24:05because it's how we understand it's how we communicate, it's
- 24:08how we can express ourselves and so forth.
- 24:11God doesn't need language so he he can just simply pop a thought
- 24:14into your head and so forth. So God doesn't need language,
- 24:17but he understands us. So he gives us languages.
- 24:20Our assessments give language to your design human understandable
- 24:25terms so that when I say that I'm 100% planner, you know
- 24:29something about me. Soon as I was out of power this
- 24:32morning, I shot you a a text and saying, hey, we just lost power
- 24:37because of these terrible windstorms that we're having
- 24:39here in northern Idaho. I don't know if I'm going to be
- 24:41able to make this or not. So when I say planner, it kind
- 24:43of makes sense based upon how I just reacted.
- 24:46Not everybody's that way and that's OK.
- 24:49There are no mistakes in God. He actually knows what he's
- 24:52doing. If you're a 0% planner, that's
- 24:54still perfect in God's economy as far as he wants you to do.
- 24:59So what the assessments do is gives you an objective
- 25:03perspective on who you are, an honest evaluation, the
- 25:07subjective side, which is how we also evaluate information.
- 25:11That subjective side is All right, take it to me.
- 25:15Let's talk about this. I want you to I want you to to
- 25:20experience what it feels like for you to be in alignment.
- 25:24The article that I wrote What is joy in 2013 was really important
- 25:29to me. I was in church contemplating
- 25:32the life of Paul. I was not listening to the
- 25:34sermon. I was just deep in my thoughts.
- 25:36And this happens to me a lot. And I'm going, OK, Paul was
- 25:39shipwrecked. He was stoned.
- 25:40He he was beaten, he was whipped 39 times multiple times.
- 25:45He was in chained in the prison while he was writing most of the
- 25:50epistles. All that is true.
- 25:52How can you consider it all joy? I couldn't figure that out.
- 25:56I'm going this makes no sense. You're physically having this
- 26:00absolute miserable experience and you're saying this is joyful
- 26:04And as I'm struggling with that thought, God just pops into my
- 26:07thinking. He goes because he was doing
- 26:10what I created him to do. The joy was not in the external
- 26:15circumstances. The joy was in the relationship
- 26:18that his obedience to God's call in his life had firmly
- 26:22established. So when you're looking at this
- 26:25version of me, understand this is not what you would have met
- 26:2910 years ago. That guy was frustrated and just
- 26:33not happy. I get excited when I get to
- 26:35introduce people to the possibility that God's plans for
- 26:39their life are better than them. And then when they say, all
- 26:43right, I'll give it a try, and then to watch it change your
- 26:45lives. The enemy is into division and
- 26:47disunity. God is into harmony and
- 26:51multiplication. He wants us to harmonize with
- 26:53His purposes for creating us and then he wants us to multiply
- 26:57that impact in the lives of that.
- 27:00Why is it important? Because there's no way that you
- 27:02can experience these things. I don't care if you've got a 12
- 27:06figure salary. You can't experience these
- 27:09things unless you are in harmony and alignment with God's
- 27:13purposes for your life. I love that you're.
- 27:14Talking about joy, there is no greater joy than when you are in
- 27:19alignment with who God's created you be.
- 27:20You can be going through the worst season of your life and it
- 27:24doesn't even feel like a trial. I know in the lowest season of
- 27:29my life, God restored my joy. I began to understand what Paul
- 27:33was talking about. Count it all joy when you go
- 27:35through trials. I think I was about 40 when I
- 27:38realized, you know what? Bring it on, Satan, because, you
- 27:42know, because honestly, like I know that whatever he threw at
- 27:47me was only going to make me stronger.
- 27:49It was only building something in me for where God was taking
- 27:54me to accomplish that thing that He created me for.
- 27:57And so this excitement and this joy again, now I'm not perfect
- 28:02in that, you know what I mean? None of us, really.
- 28:04No. Through difficulties.
- 28:07Seasons. That's what we need.
- 28:09That's what we need people like you with exhortation to
- 28:11encourage us when we are not living that joy filled life.
- 28:15I mean that's that's why we need the body.
- 28:18You know what's funny? Is my husband and I are kind of
- 28:21opposites in that, which isn't unusual honestly, like God does
- 28:25a lot of times put opposites together in that way.
- 28:28But I'm always the glass is half full type person.
- 28:31I'm always like, yes, this is going to work out for the best
- 28:34every time. And he's like the realist.
- 28:36It might not, Chris, just like reality here and I'm up here in
- 28:42the clouds like, you know what this is doesn't look very good.
- 28:45But I just know that God's got a plan that he's going to do
- 28:48something, and that's just who I am, and I can't be anything
- 28:52else. Beautiful kites that fly in the
- 28:55air need to be tethered to the ground so they don't get
- 28:59destroyed. So there is a balance.
- 29:01You Can Dance and in the sky and and bring joy with the light and
- 29:06beauty that of the kite that God's made you to be.
- 29:08And your husband's going. All right.
- 29:10I got you, Christina. I got you.
- 29:12Oh, we're gonna. We need to get away from that
- 29:13tree when you get away from that power line.
- 29:16But I got you. Yeah.
- 29:17That's. And that's the thing.
- 29:18Is that the reason the enemy is allowed to have these negative
- 29:23impacts on our life is a couple things for us to learn the
- 29:26lesson to draw closer to God, to not get discouraged, to get
- 29:30strengthened. Now every time something like
- 29:32this happens, my response is not fear or frustration or
- 29:36anxiousness is like, oh, you're going to pay for that.
- 29:39You're going to pay for that. That person that you're hurt.
- 29:42Well, Mary, the lady that I encourage to become a counselor
- 29:45is not going to be able to help her.
- 29:46You're going to pay for that that event that you wanted to
- 29:49fail. Oh, my friend Tina is now want
- 29:51to make sure that that event is absolutely off the charts.
- 29:54I mean, these are these are now the way I respond when these
- 29:59things happen. It's like, all right, it's going
- 30:01to be better. And God's got a plan for this.
- 30:03He has allowed these things to happen so that I will get
- 30:06strengthened and grow in in my capacity to war against the
- 30:11spiritual. And I trust my God, I'm going
- 30:14to. I'm going.
- 30:15To shift here as we are heading into this new year, like 2026 is
- 30:21here, so many people focus on resolutions or fixing habits or
- 30:26cutting things out, trying harder.
- 30:28From your perspective, how is alignment with God's design
- 30:32different from striving for change?
- 30:35What are some signs that someone might be living out of alignment
- 30:39with who God created them to be? I would say lack of.
- 30:42The Fruit of the Spirit on Galatians 5/22/23 Lovejoy,
- 30:46Peace, patience, kindness, goodness, senseness,
- 30:49faithfulness, and self-control. If people do not describe you
- 30:55with those terms, you're not. You're not experiencing the
- 30:59fullness of what God has for you.
- 31:01See one of the things that he's taught me, and it's in this
- 31:04book, why discipleship isn't working.
- 31:06Fruit of the spirit is not an accidental phrase, OK?
- 31:09The fruit of the spirit is, is a nourishment.
- 31:12It's not the nourishment for the body necessarily.
- 31:15It's a nourishment for your soul.
- 31:17Whose soul, your intellect, your emotions, your free will would
- 31:21not benefit from more Lovejoy and peace.
- 31:24How many of us need to be able to understand that the lessons
- 31:28from patients, How many more of us could actually have a more
- 31:31effect impact in this world if we were kind and gentle and
- 31:35faithful and, and and we had self-control.
- 31:39You see the nourishment that our souls need, our intellect, our
- 31:42emotions and our free will is found in obedience to God's call
- 31:47in your life. Every resolution that you have
- 31:49had prior to 2026, it's quite likely been something that the
- 31:54world has influenced you by. I'm going to lose weight, I'm
- 31:58going to work harder, I'm going to start this business, I'm
- 32:01going to do this, I'm going to do that.
- 32:03How about for the first time in your life going God, what do you
- 32:07want me to do? Show me what you created me to
- 32:09do. I will gladly pick up that cross
- 32:13and follow you. Something else that God showed
- 32:15me Luke 14, I forget the exact verse talks about the Christ
- 32:19goes. If you are not willing to pick
- 32:21up your cross and follow told me, you're unworthy to be called
- 32:24my disciple. Now, I don't see a lot of people
- 32:27walking around with crosses, so obviously we're talking about a
- 32:30metaphor here. But what was the cross as it
- 32:33relates to Jesus as there was as it relates to Jesus, it was his
- 32:37person. It was his purpose for coming to
- 32:40earth. He knew God knew that the Jews
- 32:42weren't going to turn around. They knew that there was no way
- 32:46that man could ever earn his way back.
- 32:48The Jews proved it by giving you 10 simple rules to be in a right
- 32:52relationship with me, and they changed it to 660 rules that
- 32:56nobody could ever follow. OK, so or even remember.
- 33:00Right, so. Here's the thing.
- 33:02What did God, what did Christ mean when he said pick up your
- 33:05cross? Well, if the cross was Jesus
- 33:08purpose for coming to earth, your cross is what did God
- 33:12create you to do when He sent you here to earth?
- 33:17Were you sent here to lead, to counsel, to teach, to build, to
- 33:21give wisdom? There is a reason why you are
- 33:23wired that way and it falls into alignment with your calling from
- 33:29Ephesians 210 of what God created you to do.
- 33:32So New Year's resolution is maybe for for the first time in
- 33:35your life, it's like, God help me to figure out what my purpose
- 33:40is and then give me the faith and the strength and the courage
- 33:44to walk it out to learn more about today's.
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