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The Kenny Report | 14 July · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me, it's great to be back, and
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Speaker 2: thanks to Danika and Caroline for filling in so wonderfully tonight.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister's six day Shiner odyssey. How much cowtowing
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Speaker 2: and how much standing up for our national interest. I'll
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Speaker 2: talk to Dave Sharma and Michael Schubridge at home. We
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Speaker 2: continue to see the disturbing results of Labour's lack of
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Speaker 2: leadership in confronting anti Israeli protests and anti Semitism. Also
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Speaker 2: the accidental government leak that points to higher taxes and
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Speaker 2: another broken election promise. Gigi Foster joins me as well
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Speaker 2: across to Sophie Ellsworth in London to hear about the
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Speaker 2: King's unusual invitation to the US President and gemetone Union
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Speaker 2: Caroline Russo will join me. One year on from that
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Speaker 2: assassination attempt against Donald Trump, let's get cracking. As you know,
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister is in China. He's there for six days.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Remember this is the same bloke who spent less than
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Speaker 2: six hours on the ground de Nato Springs during a
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Speaker 2: law and order crisis two years ago. But he's spending
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Speaker 2: six days in China. Anthony Albanezi will meet Premier Lee
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Speaker 2: and President Jijiping tomorrow in Beijing, so Albo, who was
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Speaker 2: yet to meet the US president, will line up for
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Speaker 2: his fourth meeting with the Chinese president. It's awkward, isn't
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Speaker 2: it a bloke who's in suite with the nation's great
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Speaker 2: strategic threat, but he's at odds with our great alliance partner,
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Speaker 2: the US, which happens to be the great security guarrant tour.
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Speaker 3: In our region and has been since the war.
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Speaker 2: And there have been awkward moments for Albo with lenked
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Speaker 2: comments that the US is demanding to know whether Australia
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Speaker 2: can be relied upon to join any US defense of
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Speaker 2: Taiwan in the events of conflict with China. The PM
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Speaker 2: was stuck in China trying to say nothing about public
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Speaker 2: undertakings or private discussions.
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Speaker 4: Well, in private by definition, that's in private, so you
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Speaker 4: don't take private comments at a media conference. We're engage
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Speaker 4: in a mature way. That's the way that we do
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Speaker 4: with our relationships.
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Speaker 2: To be fair, Albaneze has made the right call here,
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Speaker 2: his right to maintain strategic ambiguity on this issue. You
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Speaker 2: don't speculate on hypothetical wars. But what this tells us
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Speaker 2: is that Washington is wary about Alba, conscious of his
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Speaker 2: extended China visit, and happy to make it difficult for him.
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Speaker 2: Albo is being played from both ends, so that while
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Speaker 2: he was in Shanghai Cow telling to China, he was
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Speaker 2: still striving to find a way.
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Speaker 3: In with the Trump administration.
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Speaker 2: After years of bagging Trump and more than six months
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Speaker 2: since the President's election, trying to set up a first meeting.
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Speaker 4: I've met with US representatives, our Australian government ministers have
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Speaker 4: been to the United States. I've been to the United
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Speaker 4: States as well, just a couple.
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Speaker 3: Of weeks ago.
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Speaker 4: I look forward to a constructive engagement with President Trump.
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Speaker 4: We have had three constructive phone conversations. Forward to that
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Speaker 4: happening between now and the end of the year. G
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Speaker 4: twenty quad apec a range of meetings as well as,
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Speaker 4: of course, the potential for a visit, another visit to
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Speaker 4: the United States.
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Speaker 2: Or maybe he can try and catch up with Trump
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Speaker 2: on a quick visit to the bathroom the way Kevin
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Speaker 2: Rudd did down in Florida earlier this year.
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Speaker 3: This isn't just elbows mess.
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Speaker 2: This is where he's put our nation offside with our
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Speaker 2: key ally and dancing to the tune of a communist
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Speaker 2: dictatorship that was happy to impose punitive tariffs and trade
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Speaker 2: bands that hurt us economically just because we wanted full
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Speaker 2: disclosure on the origins of COVID.
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Speaker 3: The trouble is alban Easy makes excuses for China.
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Speaker 2: Remember those live firing exercises undertaken without warning by a
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Speaker 2: Chinese navy spy flow tiller that disrupted air roots between
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Speaker 2: Australia and New Zealand. Albo didn't protest to China, he
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Speaker 2: actually defended it.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 4: China issued, in accordance with practice, an alert that it
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Speaker 4: would be conducting these activities, including the potential use.
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Speaker 3: Of live fire.
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Speaker 4: It's outside of Australia's Exclusive economic zone. Well, this is
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Speaker 4: activity that has occurred in m waters consistent with international
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Speaker 4: lawification has occurred.
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Speaker 3: Nothing to see there, hay.
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Speaker 2: Yet, when the Trump administration imposed still tariffs much less
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Speaker 2: damaging all punitive than China's trade sanctions against Australia, Albanesi
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Speaker 2: was more aggressive.
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Speaker 4: The Administration's tariffs have no basis in logic, and they
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Speaker 4: go against the basis of our two Nations partnership. This
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Speaker 4: is not the act of a friend.
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Speaker 3: Even in China.
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Speaker 2: Today Albo was again talking down the intrusions of Chinese
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Speaker 2: spy vessels.
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Speaker 4: That would be nothing unusual that has happened in the past.
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Speaker 4: And I'll continue to assert Australia's national interest as I do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, sure you do.
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Speaker 2: Albo Albanizi is weak. Along with Foreign Minister Penny Wong.
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Speaker 2: He belongs to the socialist left faction of the Labor Party,
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Speaker 2: the home of anti American, anti Israeli, anti capitalists and
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Speaker 2: pro China ideological warriors. The Labor right traditionally dedicated to
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Speaker 2: fight back against those positions. Well, it's lost its power
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Speaker 2: and it's got no strong leaders in Canberra anymore.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 2: On foreign policy, Australia is drifting, drifting away from the
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Speaker 2: US and the defense of freedom, democracy, sovereign rights and
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Speaker 2: global order. That's why the Albanezi government has been so
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Speaker 2: pathetic on Israel. It's why they've shifted Australia into the
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Speaker 2: United Nations consensus crowd. When we were once a voice
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Speaker 2: of strong values and now, as we're seeing before our
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Speaker 2: very eyes, Australia is drifting into the orbit of China.
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Speaker 2: But dazzled by the export prospects and hoping that security
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Speaker 2: threats never manifest themselves because we know when it comes
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Speaker 2: to freedom, democracy, sovereign rights, and global order, China could
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Speaker 2: not care less. The anti Israeli violence and threats in
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Speaker 2: this country just get worse. A new video has threatened
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Speaker 2: more violence in a bizarre rant linking anti Israeli rehtric
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Speaker 2: with anti imperialism and indigenous rights in Australia and a
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Speaker 2: warning this is pretty strong stuff.
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Speaker 5: Death to Israel, death to Australia, death to America. From
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Speaker 5: the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, always was,
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Speaker 5: always will be of Aboriginal land.
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Speaker 2: In this disturbing video, now the subject of a police investigation,
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Speaker 2: the speaker claims responsibility for this car bombing a week
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Speaker 2: ago at a Melbourne technology firm involved in defense industry work,
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Speaker 2: including for the Joint Strike Fighter used by the US,
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Speaker 2: UK and Australia, among other nations, with technological cooperation from Israel.
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Speaker 2: Anti Israeli graffiti were sprayed around two The new threatening
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Speaker 2: video even includes tips on how to fire bomb cars.
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Speaker 2: Here's some more.
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Speaker 1: Hello, this is an anonymous communicated by the cell that
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Speaker 1: torched three cars out Loved Technologies on the morning of
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Speaker 1: July fifth, twenty twenty five. Let there be no allusions
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Speaker 1: as to what this was. This was not an accident,
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Speaker 1: in nor thought miss vandalism. This is a clear and
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Speaker 1: serious threat. If you continue making weapons components of any kind,
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Speaker 1: there will be consequences. Consider this a warning.
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Speaker 2: This is worrying stuff and it comes hot on the
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Speaker 2: heels of last week's firebombing of a synagogue in Melbourne
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Speaker 2: and a violent anti israel protest at a Melbourne restaurant,
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Speaker 2: the business targeted simply because its owners were Jewish, and
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Speaker 2: then protesters in Melbourne yesterday chanted death to the IDF,
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Speaker 2: all proving that claims about the rise in anti Israelian
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Speaker 2: and anti Semitic behavior being overstated are actually dead wrong.
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Speaker 2: This is an ongoing crisis now. While the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: of late has been saying the right things.
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Speaker 4: There is no place in Australia for anti Semitism. The
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Speaker 4: kind of hatred and violence that we've seen on our
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Speaker 4: streets recently is despicable and it won't be tolerated and
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Speaker 4: I want those responsible to face the full force of
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Speaker 4: the law.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to endorse those words, but his actions
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Speaker 2: have never matched them. The trouble began with the lack
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Speaker 2: of action back in October twenty twenty three, when hatred
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Speaker 2: and bile was shouted on the streets of Sydney celebrating
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Speaker 2: the slaughter of twelve hundred innocent Israelis and the taking
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Speaker 2: of two.
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Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty hostages.
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Speaker 2: Dozens of whom remain in the hands of Hummas today.
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Speaker 2: And there were threats chanted against Jews in that infamous
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Speaker 2: opera house protest, and police just stood by, even though
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Speaker 2: the protesters didn't have a permit to be where they were,
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Speaker 2: and even though they were threatening Jewish people. Yet even
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Speaker 2: while all this unfolded, Albanize did nothing. He said the
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Speaker 2: bare minimum, as I've showed you before. He even spoke
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Speaker 2: at the main mosque in Sydney's Lakember at that very time,
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Speaker 2: and made no mention of any of this.
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Speaker 3: Since then, he's.
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Speaker 2: Criticized Israel repeatedly, calling for it to stop fighting back
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Speaker 2: against Tamas, calling for Israel to stop fighting back against
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Speaker 2: Hesbala II, and it's understood he's never taken the trouble
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Speaker 2: to see the video evidence of what Hummas and its
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Speaker 2: supporters did in those atrocities on October the seventh of
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. He should have been condemning Hamas Daily
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Speaker 2: and Hezballah and Iran and demanding the return of hostages.
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Speaker 2: That's how the war can end tomorrow. Instead, the Australian government,
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Speaker 2: other governments, and much of the world's media has echoed
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Speaker 2: Humas propaganda, repeated lies about the conflict, and demonized Israel.
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Speaker 2: It's hardly surprising that anti Israel sentiment and blatant anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism have fested. We've seen violent acts in the streets
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Speaker 2: of our major cities, cars and buildings, torched, lives, endangered,
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Speaker 2: people threatened, communities terrorized, and our governments have been weak.
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Speaker 2: And now we have the report from the government Special
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Speaker 2: Envoy on Anti Semitism recommending new ways to combat this scourge,
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Speaker 2: using the threat of government funding cuts to organizations who
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Speaker 2: failed to do the right thing. I mean that should
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Speaker 2: just be expected. It shouldn't warrant any discussion or need
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Speaker 2: any recommendation. And now there's criticize and criticism of that Envoy,
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Speaker 2: Gillian Siegel, because her husband donated to right wing lobby
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Speaker 2: group Advance Australia. I mean, if someone criticized a female
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Speaker 2: Labour MP for her husband's political donations, there would be
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Speaker 2: claims of sexism, and fair enough. How can you tarnish
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Speaker 2: an independent woman over the political views of her husband.
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Speaker 2: But Siegel is Jewish, I guess so the same rules
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Speaker 2: don't apply. Stand up against andy Semitism and you become
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Speaker 2: fair game for some. The way to stamp out anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism is for politicians to stand up and speak with strength,
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Speaker 2: saying the right things to the right people at the
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Speaker 2: right time, and for police and other authorities to act
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Speaker 2: with strength and certitude. And it requires the federal government
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Speaker 2: to make very clear that the problem in Gaza is
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Speaker 2: humm Us, and that hum Us is an Islamist extremist
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Speaker 2: terrorist organization intent on the killing of Jews and destruction
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Speaker 2: of Israel at any cost. It is a genocidal aim,
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Speaker 2: an evil cause that Hamas values infinitely more than it
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Speaker 2: cares for the Arab peoples of the Palestinian territories. That
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Speaker 2: is the reality that should inform our diplomacy and our
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Speaker 2: government's public comments. But instead the Albanese Labor government, along
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Speaker 2: with others, sends out the opposite message. It is weakness,
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Speaker 2: and weakness is provocative. I want to go to Dave Sharmanaw,
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Speaker 2: the Shadow Assistant Minister for Treasury, joins me live from Sydney,
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Speaker 2: if I could just start off on the Sandy Semitism
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Speaker 2: issue though, Dave, as a former ambassador for Australia in Israel.
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Speaker 2: You've seen Jillian Siegel's report, You've heard Anthony Alberesi's comments.
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Speaker 2: There's lots of words about but we're still failing to
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Speaker 2: see any strong action from this government in standing up.
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Speaker 3: To this scourge.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 7: Look, I don't disagree with the sentiments in Anthony Alberanezi express,
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Speaker 7: but I think throughout with this government has been too little,
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Speaker 7: too late. You know, we're now in a situation where
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Speaker 7: it seems every other day or every other week, there
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Speaker 7: is some new protests targeting the Jewish community or businesses
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Speaker 7: with links to Israel, or universities that have research links
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Speaker 7: to Israeli universities in a way that's making and continues
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Speaker 7: to make the Jewish community in Australia feel deeply uncomfortable.
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Speaker 7: And the reason we've got to this situation where this
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Speaker 7: sort of behavior has become normalized is because governments and
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Speaker 7: authorities and law enforcement and political leaders did not stand
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Speaker 7: up strongly enough and decisively enough early enough to stop
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Speaker 7: this in its tracks and in it now I feel
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Speaker 7: like the genie is out of the bottle, and no
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Speaker 7: matter how many times the PM speaks strongly about this,
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Speaker 7: now the message is no longer being heard because it's
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Speaker 7: too far gone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be right, we'll keep looking at it,
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Speaker 2: but I fear that's the trajectory we're heading down. Let
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Speaker 2: me bring you back to the Prime Minister's current activities
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Speaker 2: in China, a six day visit, very uncomfortable for him.
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Speaker 2: He's being asked about the possibility of Australia's involvement in
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Speaker 2: a war over Taiwan.
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Speaker 3: This is a trick question.
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Speaker 2: It's troubled many foreign ministers and leaders previously. But what's
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Speaker 2: interesting is this has been thrown up because of what
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Speaker 2: America has been briefing out. Is America deliberately trying to
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Speaker 2: embarrass him?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're trying to America.
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Speaker 7: No secret here is trying to put some turn the
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Speaker 7: heat up on their allies to make greater commitments to
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Speaker 7: upholding the rules based order that we all say we
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Speaker 7: believe in, contributing more to collective defense and security efforts.
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Speaker 7: They've obviously done that quite successfully with NATO countries. They
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Speaker 7: agreed a couple of weeks ago to NATO summit to
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Speaker 7: increase defense ending to five percent of GDP. Anthony Alberanesi
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Speaker 7: has steadfastly refused to go anything beyond I think two
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Speaker 7: point three percent of GDP by twenty thirty five. Now,
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Speaker 7: I think, you know, it's clear from what we've heard
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Speaker 7: in background and in other scenarios that the United States
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Speaker 7: is not happy with that. So it doesn't surprise me
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Speaker 7: that they're making things a little awkward for him right now.
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Speaker 2: Well, one of the areas where Alberanesi has shown some
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Speaker 2: backbone in standing up to China is over the Port
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Speaker 2: of Darwin and his election commitment to make sure that
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Speaker 2: returns to Australian hands. He was asked in Shanghai today
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Speaker 2: whether or not he expected any blowback from China over
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Speaker 2: that decision.
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Speaker 3: Have a look. The answer to that is no.
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Speaker 4: We had a very clear position that we want the
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Speaker 4: port to go into Australian ownership. We're being clear about it,
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Speaker 4: we're being orderly about it, and we will go through
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Speaker 4: that pro this.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Anthony Albanezi, there, do you think you'll get some
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Speaker 2: pushback from China on that deal.
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Speaker 7: Well, I just made the point that he didn't go
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Speaker 7: through a clear and orderly process. I mean my recollection
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Speaker 7: of events, and maybe I'm wrong here is that the opposition,
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Speaker 7: the liberal opposition, made a commitment that we would basically
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Speaker 7: force the divestment of the porta dal And from the
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Speaker 7: China stat owned corporation, and then Anthony Albanesi phoned into
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Speaker 7: Darwin talkback radio a couple of hours later and said, oh,
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Speaker 7: we're going to do that too. I don't think this
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Speaker 7: is an orderly or deliberate policy. He was responding to
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Speaker 7: the opposition. But look, we support that policy. I'm glad
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Speaker 7: he's doing it, but I think he's going to Look
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Speaker 7: he should if he's having a frank conversation with China's
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Speaker 7: president tomorrow and he's raising issues of Chinese behavior in
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Speaker 7: our region that have concerned us, including the use of
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Speaker 7: PLA Navy life fire exercises in the Tasman sy the
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Speaker 7: harassment of Australian aviators and naval divers, you know, then
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Speaker 7: all these things should be discussed in that context, and
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Speaker 7: China is free to raise the Port of Darwin with us,
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Speaker 7: just as Anthony Albaneze should be free to raise the
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Speaker 7: provocative actions of the PLA Navy.
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Speaker 2: He sure should, but will he We will wait and
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Speaker 2: see those meetings on tomorrow. Thanks for joining us, Dave Sharma,
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Speaker 2: Dave Shama. They are the Liberal Senator for New South Wales,
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Speaker 2: shadow Assistant Treasurer and former Australian Ambassador to Israel. I
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Speaker 2: wonder if Albo would raise with the Chinese the question
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Speaker 2: of some more transparency over COVID nineteen I bet if
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Speaker 2: I mentioned that either now let's get back to the economy,
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Speaker 2: and our friends at the taxpayer funded broadcast have finally
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Speaker 2: done the public a favor. They've stumbled across some illuminating information.
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Speaker 2: The ABC put in an FOI for the incoming government
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Speaker 2: briefings that all governments get straight after an election. In
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Speaker 2: this case, it was the Treasury briefing and the document
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Speaker 2: was sent that was sent to the ABC was supposed
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Speaker 2: to be completely redacted, but some bureaucrat somewhere accidentally left
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Speaker 2: in some key headings some key details, and one of
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Speaker 2: them was this Perla, if it wants to fix the budget,
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Speaker 2: the government will need to increase taxes and cut spending.
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Speaker 3: Well, we know Labor loves to increase taxes.
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Speaker 2: It's already pushing for that tax hike on superannuation savings.
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Speaker 3: I wonder what the next tax grab will be.
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Speaker 2: And as for cuts to government spending, well we all
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Speaker 2: know that's what's needed for getting a Labor government to
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Speaker 2: cut spending.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a bit like trying to teach an emu
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Speaker 3: to fly. But there's more.
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Speaker 2: The leaked document says that Labour's election promise to build
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Speaker 2: one point two million homes will not be met.
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Speaker 3: The ABC was asked to delete.
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Speaker 2: The document and not report any of it, but they
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Speaker 2: decided to publish in the public interest.
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Speaker 3: The Treasurer talked.
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Speaker 8: It all down, well, governments don't release the incoming government brief.
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Speaker 8: It's been released in er and that's you know, these
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Speaker 8: things happen from time the time. As I said before,
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Speaker 8: I'm pretty relaxed about it. But you are responding to
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Speaker 8: a partial release.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's far more embarrassing and damning than that.
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Speaker 2: For instance, this official advice tells us that right from
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Speaker 2: the start Labor can't actually deliver its election promise on housing.
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Speaker 2: Yet Charmers was smug enough to respond like this.
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Speaker 8: We're an ambitious government. We set ambitious goals and we
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Speaker 8: work very hard to achieve them, and I think that
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Speaker 8: that's what the Australian people expect of us.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's not true.
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Speaker 2: Labor does make ridiculously ambitious promises like.
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Speaker 4: This, reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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Speaker 4: Reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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Speaker 8: By twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars
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Speaker 8: a year.
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Speaker 4: One hundred and seventy five dollars a year will get.
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Speaker 8: Power prices down by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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Speaker 8: a year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good on the promise, but it doesn't do
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Speaker 2: the work to deliver. Power prices have spiked up to
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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars in the other direction. Yeap, Labor makes
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Speaker 2: ridiculously ambitious promises.
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Speaker 3: Here's another one.
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Speaker 8: Under Labor, you'll have a government which cares about cost
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Speaker 8: of living and has plans.
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Speaker 4: To deal with it, build people's living standards, a better future,
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Speaker 4: with real plans to addresses the cost of.
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Speaker 8: Living and to ease the pressure that too many Australians
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Speaker 8: are feeling.
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Speaker 4: Taking pressure off the cost of living and yet.
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Speaker 3: Again it's a great promise, but labor failed to deliver.
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Speaker 3: Have you felt the cost of living go down yet?
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Speaker 3: And you'll know the way this works. Here's the ridiculously
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Speaker 3: ambitious promise.
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Speaker 4: We have a plan to build one point two million
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Speaker 4: homes by the end of the decade.
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Speaker 2: And now we know that as soon as the day
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Speaker 2: after the election, Treasury said that promise will be broken too.
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Speaker 3: Who would ever trust these people?
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Speaker 2: The big unknown is just how bad things will need
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Speaker 2: to get before there's a reckoning.
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Speaker 3: Let me bring in Gigi Foster on this.
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Speaker 2: She's the University of New South Wales economics professor, joins
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Speaker 2: me live from Sydney.
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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you again, Gigi.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's some consolation in this league, isn't there That
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Speaker 2: Treasury is giving the right advice to some degree that
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Speaker 2: is cut some spending. Although I don't need that we
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Speaker 2: need any tax increases. Maybe tax reform would be a
22:35
Speaker 2: better thing, but we hardly need tax increases.
22:39
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, very true, Chris. I mean, at least we
22:41
Speaker 9: know there are a few people who see some of
22:44
Speaker 9: the realities that are facing the Australian people. But really
22:47
Speaker 9: what this shows me is how little emphasis there is
22:51
Speaker 9: on transparency and service to the Australian people in preference
22:55
Speaker 9: for politicking in our governments today. So you know this
22:59
Speaker 9: kind of casual air of the Treasurer when he was
23:02
Speaker 9: addressing this leak as if oh, you know, well, we
23:05
Speaker 9: keep things hidden from the Israelian people all the time,
23:07
Speaker 9: sometimes stuff gets out. That's a pity. I mean, what
23:10
Speaker 9: these people are supposed to be servants of the people
23:13
Speaker 9: and what they do and what they're trying to do
23:15
Speaker 9: should be transparent to those people, and instead we get
23:18
Speaker 9: political spin and the actual conversations and realism that we
23:22
Speaker 9: would really like to see on headlines only come out
23:24
Speaker 9: because of a mistake in the communication. So it's quite
23:28
Speaker 9: disappointing in that respect.
23:30
Speaker 2: The other cut through message there from Treasury is that
23:34
Speaker 2: this promised to build one point two million dollar million
23:37
Speaker 2: homes just won't happen. It's always looked ridiculously overly ambitious.
23:42
Speaker 9: But have build the cat on that absolutely, And again
23:47
Speaker 9: we've been sold this line and people just unfortunately have not.
23:51
Speaker 9: As you said before, I have not gotten to the
23:54
Speaker 9: point yet. It hasn't gotten bad enough yet to where
23:57
Speaker 9: they are just going to spit the dummy and say
23:59
Speaker 9: stop lying, to stop telling us all these pretty promises
24:02
Speaker 9: that keep us voting for you and then failing to
24:05
Speaker 9: deliver and getting away with it. Where is the accountability,
24:08
Speaker 9: Where is the sense of humility and kind of embarrassment
24:12
Speaker 9: really that they've been saying one thing and their internal
24:15
Speaker 9: documents say another. It's embarrassing and it's not professional and
24:19
Speaker 9: it's not in service to Australia. It simply shows how
24:23
Speaker 9: political this whole system of governance has become, and it's
24:26
Speaker 9: very disappointing. I pine for a day when we get
24:30
Speaker 9: people leading this country who have a true devotion to
24:33
Speaker 9: upholding the interest and welfare of the people of this country.
24:36
Speaker 2: Now, just taking to your theme of transparency and the
24:41
Speaker 2: lack of it, in fact, I would go so far
24:43
Speaker 2: as to say deception here, because you've got to remember
24:46
Speaker 2: this incoming advice from Treasury is prepared during the election campaign.
24:51
Speaker 3: It was on the Treasurer's desk the day after the election.
24:54
Speaker 2: Of course, they were winning re elections, so that had
24:56
Speaker 2: already been in government that only delivered a budget less
24:58
Speaker 2: than two months earlier, so presumably this is the advice
25:02
Speaker 2: that was coming from Treasury for all the months leading
25:05
Speaker 2: up to the election. You can't build one point two
25:07
Speaker 2: million dollars at one point two million houses. You have
25:12
Speaker 2: to cut spending and you're going to need to raise taxes.
25:15
Speaker 2: Yet we were told none of this in the lead
25:17
Speaker 2: up to the election. In fact, they tried to tell
25:19
Speaker 2: us the opposite.
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Speaker 9: Exactly the opposite on each one, in fact right in
25:23
Speaker 9: a way. And it's who are we dealing with. Are
25:27
Speaker 9: we dealing with the people who actually see the problems
25:29
Speaker 9: Australia has and are prepared to be honest with the
25:31
Speaker 9: people about those problems and work with us and in
25:34
Speaker 9: communities to fix the major structural problems.
25:37
Speaker 3: That we have.
25:38
Speaker 9: Or are we just dealing with a bunch of people
25:40
Speaker 9: interested in their image and their careers who are prepared
25:43
Speaker 9: to put any kind of spin on anything, including one
25:45
Speaker 9: hundred and eighty degree spin and somehow that flies in
25:49
Speaker 9: the polling booths. I mean, it is incredible. It's jaw
25:52
Speaker 9: dropping to see how much people can get away with
25:55
Speaker 9: this in positions of authority in this country. I just
25:57
Speaker 9: think it's absolutely unconscionable, and I really, I mean, you're right.
26:01
Speaker 9: It was nice to see a little bit of an
26:03
Speaker 9: admission that we do need to cut back on government spending,
26:06
Speaker 9: but there was no real detail on that. Maybe there
26:08
Speaker 9: is detail someplace else and another internal document. I'd really
26:11
Speaker 9: like to see that. What are your plans for cutting
26:13
Speaker 9: government spending? Where are we going to cut it?
26:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, wouldn't we all like to see all of that?
26:17
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, GGI appreciated Gigi Foster.
26:19
Speaker 2: They're sharing the outrage at just how we're all being
26:22
Speaker 2: spun even this early in a new government's term.
26:26
Speaker 3: Now we're going to get to a break.
26:27
Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to cross to London
26:28
Speaker 2: and catch up with Sophie El's worth to hear about
26:30
Speaker 2: this unusual invitation from King Charles to the US President
26:35
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Let's cross the UK now and catch up
26:42
Speaker 2: with Sophie. L's with News Court correspondent and of course
26:44
Speaker 2: Sky News.
26:45
Speaker 3: Contributor live in London. Good to talk to you again, Sophie.
26:48
Speaker 2: There's some big news breaking about King Charles offering a
26:53
Speaker 2: second state visit to Donald Trump. Of course you've got
26:56
Speaker 2: a state visit as president first time around about six
27:00
Speaker 2: years ago, five or six years ago.
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Speaker 3: Tell us how unusual this one would be?
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Speaker 10: Well, Chris, we heard this news overnight here in Britain
27:09
Speaker 10: that the King Charles the Third has invited President Trump
27:14
Speaker 10: and his wife, First Lady Millenia to London. They will
27:19
Speaker 10: be coming here Chris in September, from September seventeen to nineteen.
27:24
Speaker 10: It's his second state visit, which is quite unusual since
27:28
Speaker 10: he has been president, so the first one obviously during
27:31
Speaker 10: his first term in office, and the next one coming
27:33
Speaker 10: up in a couple of months. So he will visit
27:36
Speaker 10: here in the UK. He'll be welcomed in Windsor because
27:40
Speaker 10: Buckingham Palace is undergoing significant renovations. But this is really
27:44
Speaker 10: interesting the time in Chris because he won't be able
27:47
Speaker 10: to address the Houses of Parliament because they are conveniently
27:51
Speaker 10: in a break when he's here.
27:53
Speaker 3: Now, whether or not that was deliberate.
27:56
Speaker 10: Who knows, but he's not going to get the same
27:59
Speaker 10: audience that French President Emmanuel Macron got when he was
28:02
Speaker 10: here last week.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think that's the very interesting part of this story,
28:07
Speaker 2: is that he won't be speaking down there at the house,
28:12
Speaker 2: at the Parliament House.
28:13
Speaker 3: And of course there would have been.
28:16
Speaker 2: Extreme if you're like, were hard left politicians anti Trump
28:20
Speaker 2: politicians there who might cause astir there might have been
28:22
Speaker 2: something that we saw in Australia when the King was
28:26
Speaker 2: here and Lydia Thorpe throw a tantrum, So they're sort
28:29
Speaker 2: of avoiding that political aspect of the trip. Is there
28:32
Speaker 2: much commentary on that in the UK at the moment?
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Speaker 10: That absolutely is Chris, because it was very deliberate. I
28:41
Speaker 10: believe that it was timed so that they avoided this
28:44
Speaker 10: whole potential fallout from him addressing the Houses of Parliament.
28:48
Speaker 10: So they've managed to avoid that with the very particular
28:52
Speaker 10: timing that they've now locked in and that President Trump
28:55
Speaker 10: has confirmed. So there's much chatter about this today on
28:59
Speaker 10: the talkback radio here in London. You know, many people
29:03
Speaker 10: saying that this was deliberately intended to be to avoid
29:07
Speaker 10: that Houses of Parliament address.
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Speaker 4: No.
29:10
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, of course, the UK government still very much on
29:13
Speaker 2: the path to net zero, committed to get to net zero,
29:16
Speaker 2: big expansion of nuclear power to get there because they
29:20
Speaker 2: are rational and sensible, but they're still really pushing and
29:23
Speaker 2: prepared to spend hundreds of billions of pounds to get
29:27
Speaker 2: people into electric cars. Here's the latest from the Transport Secretary.
29:32
Speaker 11: We are committed to achieving net zero by twenty fifty,
29:36
Speaker 11: and we know that the emissions that come from road
29:39
Speaker 11: transport are a very significant amount of our domestic emissions.
29:44
Speaker 11: We have made it clear that we will phase out
29:47
Speaker 11: the sale of petrol and diesel cars cars that are
29:51
Speaker 11: solely powered by an internal combustion engine by twenty thirty.
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Speaker 3: That just sounds impossible. Is it seen as achievable in
30:01
Speaker 3: the UK?
30:02
Speaker 10: Sophie Well, the latest numbers chris in during showed that
30:08
Speaker 10: they're falling behind the mandated twenty eight percent of evs
30:12
Speaker 10: that need to be sold. About one in four vehicles
30:14
Speaker 10: sold here in the ukr evs, but all along the streets,
30:20
Speaker 10: even out the front of my own home, you can
30:22
Speaker 10: charge in your EV. But they're now talking about helping
30:26
Speaker 10: households pay for infrastructure so that they can have EV
30:30
Speaker 10: cords running under the pathways into their home to charge
30:34
Speaker 10: their vehicles. Remembering a lot of homes here in Britain
30:37
Speaker 10: don't have garages, they don't have driveways, and a lot
30:40
Speaker 10: of people don't even have vehicles, so this seems like
30:43
Speaker 10: a very far fetched dream to reach these targets. But
30:47
Speaker 10: the government is trying to introduce new subsidies to make
30:50
Speaker 10: it more appealing and more affordable for people to go
30:53
Speaker 10: down this road.
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Speaker 3: Chris, Yeah, you heaven forbid.
30:56
Speaker 2: They just let people make up their own minds and
30:58
Speaker 2: they're going to be burning money instead of burning Cole.
31:01
Speaker 2: We'll see where it goes. On the other side of
31:03
Speaker 2: the Ledger business seems to be wisening up with one
31:06
Speaker 2: of the big British banks, HSBC, jumping off the net
31:09
Speaker 2: zero bandwagon.
31:12
Speaker 10: They have, indeed, Chris, so they've announced that they won't
31:15
Speaker 10: be part of this collective banks all across the world,
31:18
Speaker 10: I think it was forty four countries. There's over one
31:21
Speaker 10: hundred banks that have been part of this net zero
31:24
Speaker 10: group and they've said that they're going to abandon being
31:27
Speaker 10: part of these targets. Now Australia has a whole heap
31:30
Speaker 10: of banks, including the Big Four, that are part of
31:33
Speaker 10: this collective, who implement strategies to try and meet net
31:37
Speaker 10: zero targets. But HSBC, one of the biggest banks here
31:42
Speaker 10: in Britain, has said they are abandoning this and it
31:44
Speaker 10: comes on the back Chris, of several banks in America
31:48
Speaker 10: also doing the same. Once Donald Trump came into office.
31:52
Speaker 10: There's a whole heap of them that have done this,
31:55
Speaker 10: and they've said, including Bank of America have said we're
31:58
Speaker 10: not going to be part of this anymore.
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Speaker 3: Couldn't be their business.
32:00
Speaker 2: They should be just learning to ventures that will return
32:04
Speaker 2: money to them.
32:05
Speaker 3: There are safe investments. They should stay out of this
32:07
Speaker 3: sort of stuff.
32:08
Speaker 2: But just going back a couple of years, this very
32:10
Speaker 2: same bank, of course was advertising its workness.
32:13
Speaker 3: Have a look.
32:15
Speaker 12: Climate action can only be achieved through collaboration, so we're
32:19
Speaker 12: working with governments, banks and other global institutions to accelerate change.
32:26
Speaker 12: That's how we're helping to finance the transition and working
32:31
Speaker 12: to build a net zero future.
32:34
Speaker 2: Ah stick to the banking, hey, Saphy. I bet they
32:37
Speaker 2: don't do new ads advertising that they're bailing out. They'll
32:39
Speaker 2: just quietly get on with business. I'd suggest, Well, yes.
32:44
Speaker 10: Chris, I mean this is not good for the alliance
32:46
Speaker 10: that this bank HSBC is pulled out. There's also Merrill Lynch,
32:50
Speaker 10: Bank of America and several other massive ones in the
32:53
Speaker 10: UK in America have done the same. So I expect
32:56
Speaker 10: you'll see more banks do this. But whether the Australian's
33:00
Speaker 10: Stuart Chris, that's my big.
33:01
Speaker 3: Question, that's the big question.
33:03
Speaker 2: Probably not with the Albanezi government leering over them. We'll see,
33:06
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us again. Sophie El's with their live
33:09
Speaker 2: from London. We're going to get to a break again.
33:11
Speaker 2: On the other side, we'll go back to the Prime
33:13
Speaker 2: Minister's six day China odyssey and the cow towing that's
33:17
Speaker 2: going on. As I mentioned at the top of the program,
33:24
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister is in China.
33:26
Speaker 3: He's there for six days.
33:27
Speaker 2: He spent the first couple of days in Shanghai, but
33:30
Speaker 2: tomorrow he'll be in Beijing where he'll meet with Premier
33:33
Speaker 2: League and President Shi. I would say that the Prime
33:37
Speaker 2: Minister's disposition towards China this week, last week, ever since
33:42
Speaker 2: he's been Prime Minister, really has been cow towing, making
33:45
Speaker 2: excuses for China, not standing up to China.
33:50
Speaker 3: But of course labor supporters wouldn't see it that way.
33:53
Speaker 2: Here's how the Prime Minister frames his diplomacy.
33:58
Speaker 4: We'll disagree where we must, and we put forward our
34:01
Speaker 4: position clearly. Where we have disagreements, we do that in
34:07
Speaker 4: a way that is consistent with the appropriate way to
34:11
Speaker 4: engage internationally. So we do that clearly, unequivocally each and
34:18
Speaker 4: every time. And this is a relationship though that's very
34:22
Speaker 4: important for Australia.
34:24
Speaker 2: Anthony Alberinezi there in Shanghai today, let's go now to
34:28
Speaker 2: Michael Schubrit's strategic analysis Australia joins his life from Canberra.
34:32
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us again, Michael.
34:33
Speaker 2: How would you frame this trip and the way it's
34:36
Speaker 2: unfolding after the first couple of days.
34:41
Speaker 13: Well, Chris, this is the handsome boy, mister Albinizi being
34:45
Speaker 13: congratulated by the Chinese Communist Party for signing up to
34:50
Speaker 13: shi Jingping's vision. Hijingping wants other economies to be much
34:56
Speaker 13: more dependent on China's even than we are now, and
35:00
Speaker 13: he wants to be able to use that economic dependence
35:04
Speaker 13: as a weapon. He's already done that to Australia, we
35:07
Speaker 13: know that, with twenty billion dollars worth of coercive measures,
35:10
Speaker 13: and he's doing it to other countries right now on
35:13
Speaker 13: access to rare earths. And mister albin EASi seems naively
35:18
Speaker 13: unaware of this and is over there trying to grow
35:23
Speaker 13: our dependency on China.
35:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have thought we needed to do develop
35:27
Speaker 2: markets elsewhere, especially in India and other places, rather than
35:31
Speaker 2: increase our dependence on China. To how silly this stuff
35:34
Speaker 2: got is today's big meeting with a bunch of people
35:38
Speaker 2: in the iron ore industry in Australia, of course make
35:41
Speaker 2: most of their money by exporting to China. Good on them,
35:45
Speaker 2: but most of them were spooking this green steel fantasy
35:50
Speaker 2: and talking about green hydrogen stuff that is already falling over.
35:56
Speaker 2: Up to a dozen projects in Australia have already fallen over. Yeah,
36:00
Speaker 2: and elbows going along with them, sprooking so called green
36:03
Speaker 2: hydrogen making green steel.
36:05
Speaker 3: It's just not going to happen. It's falling by the
36:07
Speaker 3: wayside everywhere I.
36:08
Speaker 2: Noticed, Handcock Prospecting was the one company who just talked
36:11
Speaker 2: about steal and iron ore and seemed to stay away
36:14
Speaker 2: from that green dream.
36:20
Speaker 13: Well, it's no more fanciful than this idea that the
36:23
Speaker 13: Prime Minister keeps telling us that he's stabilized the relationship
36:27
Speaker 13: with China while his good friend Shijing Ping monsters Taiwan
36:32
Speaker 13: postures and plans to invade the place and sends three
36:36
Speaker 13: warships around Australia conducting live firing exercises. So this is
36:42
Speaker 13: not a really, this is not a relationship based in
36:46
Speaker 13: reality with mister Albanesi.
36:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's really interesting. Sorry, I was just
36:51
Speaker 3: going to go.
36:52
Speaker 2: This is a difficult issue when it comes to Taiwan,
36:55
Speaker 2: and most Australian foreign ministers and leaders have always prized
36:59
Speaker 2: the strategic ambiguity. In fact, most American leaders have of course,
37:03
Speaker 2: as will. Do you accept that it seems to be
37:07
Speaker 2: a deliberate strategy by America to raise this issue now
37:12
Speaker 2: and make it awkward for Anthony Albertezi and China.
37:16
Speaker 13: I think the timing is deliberate, but I think there's
37:19
Speaker 13: something bigger behind it than just timing. I think there's
37:23
Speaker 13: growing concern and doubt about Australia as an ally and
37:28
Speaker 13: as a partner in collective deterrence of China in Washington,
37:34
Speaker 13: and that doubt will be growing in other partner capitals too,
37:37
Speaker 13: like Soul and Tokyo. Because while the Prime Minister talks
37:41
Speaker 13: about investing in relationships, the only relationship he's investing his
37:46
Speaker 13: personal time in is China. He's spending six days there,
37:51
Speaker 13: not even having a one day stopover in South Korea
37:54
Speaker 13: or Japan, two key strategic and economic partners, let alone
37:59
Speaker 13: a tour of the US.
38:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is extraordinary, and just on that though, if
38:04
Speaker 2: we're to get American made submarines in the first place,
38:07
Speaker 2: nuclear submarines, American technology, the first country other than Britain
38:12
Speaker 2: to get access to them. Surely it would be an
38:15
Speaker 2: expectation of the US that those submarines would be useful
38:18
Speaker 2: in a conflict with China.
38:22
Speaker 13: Well, Chris, you're right, we're going to remember what's the
38:24
Speaker 13: purpose of UCAS. It's not actually about submarines. It's about
38:30
Speaker 13: shifting the military balance in our part of the world
38:34
Speaker 13: away from an increasingly aggressive China in favor of democratic powers.
38:40
Speaker 13: And ORCUS is just a means of doing that.
38:43
Speaker 9: Ye.
38:43
Speaker 13: So if mister Albinizi doesn't look signed up to deterring
38:47
Speaker 13: a war, deterring China from war, then ORCUS is meaningless.
38:52
Speaker 13: That's what Washington will be thinking.
38:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's given them no reason to think otherwise.
38:58
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us, Michael.
39:00
Speaker 2: Michael Schubridge there from Strategic Analysis Australia.
39:03
Speaker 3: Once again we have to go to a break.
39:05
Speaker 2: It is one year, as you know since the assassination
39:09
Speaker 2: attempt then president but campaigning former president before he got
39:14
Speaker 2: re elected, Donald Trump, Gemton, Jennie and Caroline are us
39:17
Speaker 2: are going to join me to talk about that and
39:18
Speaker 2: plenty more in Let's get onto our panel now with
39:26
Speaker 2: Gematon Jini from GT Communications.
39:28
Speaker 3: Here on the desk with.
39:29
Speaker 2: Me is Ever and over in Perth Caroline der also
39:32
Speaker 2: host of The Royal Report.
39:33
Speaker 3: Good to have you both on board.
39:35
Speaker 2: I want to start off with this flashback what happened
39:39
Speaker 2: exactly a year ago. It's actually on the thirteenth of July,
39:41
Speaker 2: but which it still is in the US.
39:43
Speaker 3: Here's what unfolded. We all remember it.
39:45
Speaker 14: I want to really see something that said, take a.
39:48
Speaker 3: Look at what happened.
40:06
Speaker 2: Well, it was a shocking moment, and Caroline, an amazing
40:09
Speaker 2: response from President Trump, and look he went on to win.
40:13
Speaker 2: I think he was going to go on to win anyway,
40:15
Speaker 2: but a lot of people would see that as a
40:16
Speaker 2: turning point.
40:17
Speaker 3: Guy, A lot is unfolded in the twelve months since.
40:22
Speaker 15: So much. And I was actually sitting in Sydney Airport
40:25
Speaker 15: on my way over to the Republican Convention when that happened.
40:28
Speaker 15: And as soon as I saw that on the news,
40:31
Speaker 15: I thought, well, this is going to be a very
40:32
Speaker 15: interesting week. And obviously at that stage, you know, Joe
40:35
Speaker 15: Biden hadn't said yet whether he was going to stand
40:39
Speaker 15: down from the presidency and not run again. And so
40:42
Speaker 15: it's from that point onwards. And you're exactly right, Chris.
40:45
Speaker 15: So many things have happened that feels like a billion
40:48
Speaker 15: tier years ago and it's only been it's only been
40:52
Speaker 15: twelve months.
40:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have a look at what Donald Trump had
40:55
Speaker 2: to say about this event now overnight, the mention.
41:01
Speaker 14: Maybe because God wanted to see I can't think it
41:04
Speaker 14: better or do really well make America great again. It's
41:07
Speaker 14: a little bit of a dangerous profession being president. But
41:10
Speaker 14: I really don't like to think about it too much.
41:12
Speaker 3: You yeah, well, he invokes God there, and whatever you
41:15
Speaker 3: think of it.
41:16
Speaker 2: It is shocking to think about what would have transpired
41:20
Speaker 2: if that bullet had actually been successful.
41:22
Speaker 16: It's extraordinary and the way that I also feel in
41:27
Speaker 16: retrospect when you look at it. There there was a
41:29
Speaker 16: huge cohort of the American body politic at the time
41:33
Speaker 16: and some in Australia who's sort of almost whitewashed it. Oh,
41:37
Speaker 16: it was just a nick and thank god it was
41:40
Speaker 16: just a nick. Forget whether he's the presidential candidate or not.
41:43
Speaker 16: Assassination of political figures, it is something that is not
41:47
Speaker 16: the mark of functioning democracies, obviously, and we also know
41:51
Speaker 16: that since then, all of the intelligence that's come out
41:53
Speaker 16: of the United States about the role of the Iranian
41:55
Speaker 16: regime has had to try and deal with or assassinate
42:00
Speaker 16: American politicians.
42:02
Speaker 11: It's terrifying to.
42:04
Speaker 16: Think that it was a year ago. And look, I
42:06
Speaker 16: would probably invote God myself if I had that kind
42:09
Speaker 16: of experience. Hopefully I never do.
42:11
Speaker 1: Well.
42:11
Speaker 2: Let's stick with some of the horrible stuff, and I
42:13
Speaker 2: want to go to the anti Semitism we're seeing in
42:15
Speaker 2: our own country. And I referred to those other incidents
42:18
Speaker 2: we've seen over the past week that's shocking. New video today,
42:22
Speaker 2: but also the chanting in Melbourne yesterday by these pro
42:25
Speaker 2: Palestinian protesters.
42:26
Speaker 3: Death to the IDF. Now, Carolin, this shocks me.
42:31
Speaker 2: And what you need to understand when you're saying death
42:33
Speaker 2: to the IDF, you're talking about the Israeli military forces
42:36
Speaker 2: who protect Israeli people from terrorist attacks.
42:40
Speaker 3: Some of them have been taking hostages themselves.
42:43
Speaker 2: All young Israelis do their compulsory national service with the IDF.
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Speaker 2: So everybody in Israel just about is either a prospective
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Speaker 2: IDF soldier or a former IDF soldier. I mean, it's
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Speaker 2: very much a kin to saying death to Jews.
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Speaker 15: It is, and it's absolutely shocking, but almost like points
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Speaker 15: for finally being honest and stop pretending this is about
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Speaker 15: freeing Palestine and having a Palestinian state. We've been talking
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Speaker 15: for such a long time about the way, you know,
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Speaker 15: not only you know how much of obviously a problem
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Speaker 15: Hamasis and those other proxy regimes are attached to Iran,
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Speaker 15: but how belligerent and how vile much of the protest
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Speaker 15: is here in Australia. And for a long time we
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Speaker 15: were like, we were getting this narrative of oh, no,
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Speaker 15: we just want to free Palestinis. At least they're being honest.
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Speaker 15: At least we can now finally see them for what
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Speaker 15: they are, and they are. You're absolutely right, Chris.
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Speaker 14: They are.
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Speaker 15: They are chanting for the death of Israeli people and
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Speaker 15: the Israeli forces. And I hope at some point people
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Speaker 15: will actually look and see with their lying eyes what
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Speaker 15: is actually going on here and it has got nothing
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Speaker 15: to do with the liberation of Palestinian people.
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Speaker 14: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Look, I couldn't agree with you more. And Jemmy, I
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Speaker 2: know this would be sickening. You see this still unfolding
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Speaker 2: the lack of action from government, state and federal over
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Speaker 2: a long period of time, it's hard to know your
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Speaker 2: country anymore.
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Speaker 16: I actual share this conversation with a friend about twenty
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Speaker 16: minutes ago in the car park here at sky About.
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Speaker 16: I'm going through a bunch of columns today and I'm
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Speaker 16: trying to sort of peel back the onion at an
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Speaker 16: intellectual level, because it breaks your brain a little bit
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Speaker 16: to say, how can people hate Jewish people for being Jewish?
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Speaker 16: Like it doesn't make any intellectual sense. It's morally bankrupt,
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Speaker 16: as we know. And you reel it back and you
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Speaker 16: wiel it back and you will it back, and there
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Speaker 16: is it's almost like the most the wildest conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 10: Known to man.
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Speaker 16: The Jews are on the world. The Jews, it's just insane.
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Speaker 16: And two things I would say Prime Ministers. The Prime
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Speaker 16: Minister's statement last week was worthy, but very very late
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Speaker 16: and overdue. And as Henry Oga said on the weekend,
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Speaker 16: there is a place for randy Semitism in Australia. It's
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Speaker 16: called Victoria. And Premier Allen, this is on you, and
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Speaker 16: it's on your government, it's on your police force and
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Speaker 16: every single time for those foul, gutter dwelling scumbags take
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Speaker 16: to Melbourne streets and chant for the death of the IDF,
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Speaker 16: which is just a cute way of saying kill Jews.
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Speaker 3: That's all it is.
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Speaker 16: It is on you, your lack of action, It is
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Speaker 16: on you.
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Speaker 12: You are deficient.
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Speaker 16: And you can say there's no place for Randy Semitism
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Speaker 16: in Victoria all you like, but your actions speak other words.
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Speaker 16: And the proof is what happens in the streets of
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Speaker 16: Melbourne week in week out. Imagine being Jewish and wanting
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Speaker 16: to go into Burke Street more with your kids.
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Speaker 3: Just terrific and disgusting. And don't leave out the media.
45:49
Speaker 3: We've got to call out the media.
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Speaker 2: So much of the media, the taxpayer funded media included,
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Speaker 2: who are reporting lies. They are effectively telling people that
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Speaker 2: Israel is going out there and deliberately killing.
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Speaker 3: Palestinian children and innocent people, critically civilians. It's just terrible.
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Speaker 16: Critically, Chris, Before we move on, Hummas rejected another ceasefire
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Speaker 16: deal over the weekend. They will not give up hostages
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Speaker 16: because it means they will give up power.
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Speaker 3: Well, let us go to some good news, because there
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Speaker 3: was some good news over the weekend.
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Speaker 2: It came from Western Australia, where German backpacker Carolina Wilga.
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Speaker 3: Got lost for more than two weeks in the outback.
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Speaker 2: She's now released a picture of herself in a hospital recovering.
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Speaker 3: She's looking very, very healthy.
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Speaker 2: And she's put out a statement effectively saying how grateful
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Speaker 2: she is to the community who found her and is
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Speaker 2: looking after her. Now she really believes she's found a
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Speaker 2: place in Australia. Incredible story. Let's have her listen to
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Speaker 2: her rescuer. The pastoral is out there, way out in
46:48
Speaker 2: the back of beyond. Tanya Henley is her name, and
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Speaker 2: I just loved what she had to say about when
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Speaker 2: she found this lost backpacker way out back.
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Speaker 6: So Paul Davern got out and I gave her a
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Speaker 6: hug because she was crying. Oh god, it was pretty emotional,
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Speaker 6: all right. She had to walk through the bush twelve days.
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Speaker 6: That's incredible because she was nowhere where I found her,
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Speaker 6: nowhere she.
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Speaker 3: Found her and gave her a hug. You gotta love Tanya,
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Speaker 3: don't you know.
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Speaker 16: I mean you do, and being an ex West Australian
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Speaker 16: always at my heart, but you know, it is such
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Speaker 16: a vast vast state beyond the comprehension of most of
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Speaker 16: New South Welshmen, to be honest and respectfully, the fact
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Speaker 16: that she is still alive. There's a reason people dine
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Speaker 16: the outback. It's because it is harsh and it is dry.
47:38
Speaker 16: And someone was over looking over that young woman that
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Speaker 16: she was found when she was and how she was extraordinary.
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Speaker 3: Way out there in the outback here. And that's a
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Speaker 3: good good point for me to mention too.
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Speaker 2: Great deal announced today from sky New's Regional through a
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Speaker 2: deal with Channel ten right across the regional New South
47:54
Speaker 2: WALESA and Queensland and further Afield. You're guaranteed to get
47:56
Speaker 2: sky New sky New's Regional for many many years to come.
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Speaker 2: Let's hope they get it back on in the southeast
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Speaker 2: of South Australia soon too.
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Speaker 3: Now, I've got to get your thoughts before we got tired,
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Speaker 3: before we go just quickly.
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Speaker 2: Caro, the King and Prince Harry trying to reconcile things apparently,
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Speaker 2: but they don't talk themselves.
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Speaker 3: They got the pr people working on it.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, my people will talk to your people and they'll
48:21
Speaker 15: have a secret meeting at a private club that turned
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Speaker 15: out to maybe not be quite so private after all.
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Speaker 6: Look, let's just call it.
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Speaker 15: Let's just call it a very worthy first step. There's
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Speaker 15: obviously been quite a break in communication for a period
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Speaker 15: of time, and I've been obviously fielding calls over the
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Speaker 15: last twenty four hours.
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Speaker 3: And what is this about? Is it the marriage?
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Speaker 15: If they run out of money, what's going on?
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Speaker 3: Who knows?
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Speaker 1: Where?
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Speaker 3: We'll see, we will see. I'll let my people know.
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Speaker 3: I'll let my people tell your people. Caroline and Jimmy
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Speaker 3: that we were all very happy with the peneltying back
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Speaker 3: in action here on Monday. Thanks for joining us years
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