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Trusting Your Intuition: Conscious Alignment with Dan Mott · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to the Bridges and Beacons podcast.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Kelly Meyerson, and I love podcasting.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_02: And what I love even more than podcasting is podcasting with podcasters because you you bet your bottom dollar that you're gonna have a great conversation, it's gonna flow, and you can be excited for those moments when your guests will turn on you and ask you a question and put you in the guest seat for a minute, which I also love.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: So today I have with me Dan Mott, who is the founder of the Mind Mastery Community and Altered States podcast.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_02: I love that title, where he explores all things consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_02: He helps people sharpen their intuition, develop their spiritual abilities, and experience altered states of reality.
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  SPEAKER_02: Dan, thank you so much for being here.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm excited to have you.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we already had episode one about podcasting before we started hitting record.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: So this is like already episode two.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_02: This is true.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna, I really I'm I'm telling you, listener, because you've heard this story from me before.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to start to hit record immediately when my guest arrives.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_02: And that becomes like the juicy outtakes of the podcast or like the lead-in to the podcast, rather than having these amazing conversations that are just AI recorded.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like there, there, there's probably some good words in there, but we didn't actually get the video and the audio.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like the blooper reel.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's where all the good stuff is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_02: They I love a blooper reel.
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  SPEAKER_02: I enjoy those so much.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm really excited, Dan, because you you have such a cool story.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: And for all intents and purposes, I be, excuse me, I meet you, and I'm like, oh, this is Dan.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: He's so cool.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: He's taken on this role with Soul Professionals, the the new fractional COO.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my gosh, he's got all this business experience.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then we have a conversation where you start to talk about altered states of consciousness.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, wait, I'm pulling in tighter.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to know more.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: So, where did this interest in altered states of consciousness or just consciousness and intuition in general, where did this start for you?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my entire life I've been non-religious.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went to church maybe 20 times in my life because my my grandparents went every weekend and the weekends my parents went away and I stayed with them.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was kind of my only exposure to religion in general.
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  SPEAKER_00: So my spirituality bucket, my entire life, was about yay big.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: I was never into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was a young kid.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wanted to like run around and play in the in the woods and play video games and do all the fun things.
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  SPEAKER_00: So spirituality in general, religious or not, was was never kind of a thing for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I called myself atheist for a week in my teens, and I didn't like the way it sounded.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I've always identified as non-religious.
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  SPEAKER_00: Then I get to, I now realize it's in hindsight because now I know I'm six too many Jenny.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, oh, okay, that very clearly kind of aligns with my spiritual awakening.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I had a very soft landing into spiritual awakening.
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have some sort of massive existential crisis or near-death experience or anything like that that kind of shook me.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: It was more of like a there was only two things I ever wanted in my life.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was to work for myself and it was to have kids, especially girls.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I had both those things for about two years before this whole process started to unfold.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had three years of identity crisis, and it was my first world problem of how do I, what's my personal brand?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I hired coaches, read books, watched YouTube, everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: And over the course of those three years, those questions started facing inward and they became who am I?
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  SPEAKER_00: Am I happy?
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  SPEAKER_00: And what am I doing with my life?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that those three years of searching led up to three months of complete immersion into oneness.
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  SPEAKER_00: I realized.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I joke around Carl Jung says at the end of his life in an interview, I don't believe in God, I know God, you know, like after after my experiences with life.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: So I always joke that I skipped over believing God and went straight straight to knowing God because I just felt so connected to the universe, everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: I realized that I am just a small piece of everything that has ever existed and inseparable from all of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had uh at that point seen things that I couldn't unsee.
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  SPEAKER_00: I had experienced things I could never forget.
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  SPEAKER_00: And within that three-month period of just complete immersion into oneness, I had three realizations.
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  SPEAKER_00: First was I'm a magical being, no different than you or anyone listening or anyone on earth.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are all magical beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: That three-dimensional reality that we live in is just a game.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, the greatest game ever created.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the third realization was that I want to spend the rest of my life figuring out what that means and what I as a human being am capable of.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I set off on a quest to, I got super into manifestation in the beginning, starting to manipulate reality with my thoughts and my beliefs and my affirmations and all of the tools at my disposal.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I started doing some really cool stuff, and it was very exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it was the little kid in me kind of realized, like, oh, I am magical, like I can do all these things.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at look at how powerful I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the universe snapped back on me and said, like, no, you are not powerful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, you are just you are uh you are a drop in the ocean.
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  SPEAKER_00: You do not have a say, things will go well for you if you if you align yourself to my will, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I yeah, I I about three years ago I had this whole experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And since then, I have just been experimenting with anything and everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: In the beginning, it was manifestation.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: It was starting to, it wasn't anything intentional that I was doing, but it was starting to be open to and I guess living kind of you know, experience of clairvoyance, clairsentience, and uh, you know, ESP and all those things.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then this year has been a heavy track of primarily lucid dreaming, but dipping my toes into astral projection, remote viewing.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then I've been dabbling in mediumship and telepathy.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm just on a quest to figure out what am I capable of, what can I train myself to do, having no past or prior experience.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, I love this so much.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so interesting.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just totally geeking out.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: There's there's at least 20 different topics there.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_02: I really love that.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_02: I I I really love that the the framework that you've shared, how you know you had those three years and three months, and then three three things you knew with certainty that you wanted to follow.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_02: And at what age was this?
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just curious now that you this was uh 34, like 34, 35.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um directly aligns with right, my which I didn't learn my my my human design until this year, the beginning of this year.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, oh, that makes so much sense.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: I was literally writing in my journals where I was saying, like, oh, this marks the end of book one of my life and starts book two of my life.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then I continue to use the metaphor until I achieve until I got to chapter two and book two of my life, and then I stopped using the metaphor.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: Then I found out about my human design, I was like, wow, no way.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like Yeah.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: Were you were you you so you weren't surprised when they said, Well, well, first of all, I mean, obviously you're a many gen.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, to me that at one manny gen to another for sure.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: That's that that becomes fully apparent.
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  SPEAKER_02: The the time-bending, the hopping all over the place, the choosing, you know, to follow different paths and pivoting and pivoting and and doing things in a time frame that for most people would seem like it doesn't make any sense.
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  SPEAKER_02: How did you do that?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So how the six two landed, that six, that sense of like those, those phases in life and experimenting up until about 30-ish.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: I say 30-ish because, you know, I I don't think it's a hard and fast rule.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's an something that's been observed and and noticed in people.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: So, what about that that too, that second part?
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: Do you do you relate to the hermit and to the the phases where you just sort of like, let me, let me shut in, let me do my own thing on my own time?
• 8:53
  unknown: Yeah.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: I never thought of myself as the hermit.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: And that was probably the least significant portion for me.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: The the sixth line was was very significant for me because it was like I wrote that, and it's like my whole spiritual experience, like verbatim.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that is in the most alignment.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the whole just Manny Jenny thing of like, I've always had my hands in too many things, and I've always I've always done too much.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, it was actually when I found out it was the first time I was actually trying, I was like, I'm not gonna do this, and I'm not gonna do that, and like let me focus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like after 35 years of my life was like the first 36.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I was like, I'm gonna actually try and focus for the first time.
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  SPEAKER_00: And three months in, I figured out my human design.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Oh no, I'm not supposed to be doing this.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So those two things resonated the most for me.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: The two-line, not so much, but then it kind of like I started open to it.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I always was like, I'd love to like go to parties and be social and hang out with people, and I would always be like the last one, like up.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: I would always like be at the party until the end.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I always thought of myself as very social.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then I kind of started going back into my life and I was like, well, yeah, that was when I was younger, and and I'll still take those opportunities when I get to, you know, on this like I get to hang out with with my friends a few times a year.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I, you know, like uh that comes out of me.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: But for the most part, like I stay in these four walls.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like I, you know, like I look forward to like on the weekends coming home and like playing video games, or I meditate in here, I read in here, I spend so much of my waking time in here, right?
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm literally stuck up in my cave.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, like I'm starting to realize more and more how much of a hermit I am and how much that is allowing me to kind of explore and reflect inwards, which is well, you know, in in Karen Curry Parker, her her take on human design, she's kind of one of the bigger minds in human design.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_02: She does quantum human design, and rather than call it the hermit, her updated language is the opportunist, which is really interesting given you, I think you literally use the word opportunities.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I've also heard that twos are sort of easy, breezy genius types, like things just like come super easy to them.
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  SPEAKER_02: I also think there's something to like my design, I'm a one-three manifesting generator.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: So the one and the three, there's six total numbers.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so anyone that starts with the lower number is more of a personal profile.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of like you have your personal journey, you learn, and then then you kind of share what you've learned.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whereas the numbers, if it starts with a four or a five or a six, it starts more the other and then the self.
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  SPEAKER_02: However, when you're a six, that six is much more like a three from like zero to thirty-ish, which is like the three is all about experimentation and trial and error.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_02: So if you look at it that way, of being more like a three-two in the beginning, is more of a personal profile.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's more of like that trial and error and taking opportunities and working with them and experimenting.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so less, less like that too, living as a hermit.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whereas I feel like sometimes when people hit certain phases with the six and they're a six-to- love a six-too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I feel I find like their journeys are so fascinating.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes they'll reach a point where and I wonder if that's some of what you're experiencing where you're a little more like, no, no, no, no.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: Let me let me just pull back a little bit and get into my own energy and have a little more downtime to myself.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I I I'm always curious about that with the six.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would say I've always been an experimenter because I've always I've always tried and done so many things.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then, right, like cross-learning, like you learn things in one area of life, one thing, and then it carries over.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's like learning multiple languages, the more that you know, the easier it is to learn more languages.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: Same thing with playing music.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: If you learn how to play an instrument, the second one, the third one, the fourth one, and so on become progressively easier because you kind of understand how it works.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: So, right, like carry over that expert expertise.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: There might be wildly different things, but but do so.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I even say, right, like my experimentation, you know, in the first in the first chapter, like book of my life is wildly different than it is today because I had my spiritual awakening and all the spiritual, like all of that became focused on like spirituality and like concepts of the like not the brain but the mind.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, right, like it was just experimentation is widely changed, right?
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, versus you know, now I'm doing lucid dreaming or you know, like doing all these things.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's like that's completely different than the stuff that I used to do, which was primarily more focused on business and and life.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I was I've always been big on routine and having like daily systems, so it was always kind of like focused on personal development versus like spirituality.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's a very common path.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: At least I can say that was me too.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: I think when I was younger, I think I was way more interested in religion, spirituality, you know, all those things.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't think I would have called it spirituality.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was more just like the mysteries of life and trying to figure out how things work.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: But then like getting into more self-development, personal development, leadership skills, going through all of those.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: And they take you so far, they sure do.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I don't discredit that, but I think there's a lot of us who are like, well, this is cool, but what else?
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_02: I need more.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: I need more.
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  SPEAKER_02: I need like, I need to know like, who am I?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_02: Why am I here?
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  SPEAKER_02: Why now?
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: And those questions really stop being answered by the scientific studies or the the personal development.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then it becomes more if I want to understand myself, like, how did I get here?
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: Why am I, why am I here?
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, how many times I've asked myself that question?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: And now it's become the way that I figure out well, why am I here?
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: What is the like underlying purpose driving what I'm doing and becoming more aware and conscious of the choices that I'm making and how they're fostering the things I want?
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: So tell me about the altered states of consciousness and and what has been some of the biggest learning that you've experienced.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think it was interesting that you said that you felt the universe tell you, like, no, sorry, you're actually just a drop in the ocean.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, I'm really curious about that.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: And there was part of me that was like, huh, was that the universe?
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: Who said that?
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: Who said that?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: Who dares?
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: So my dark night of the soul over the past year plus there's kind of been two major lessons that have come from that.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: The first was that you were not right.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I first started on this, when I first started getting into manifestation, I thought it was me.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: I thought it was my will on the universe could impact change, right?
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it was right.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was visualizing things, I was doing exercises, I was doing all these different practices and actually creating my reality where like I was like able to manifest really cool things in my life.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: And that kind of like that that magic that happened there would be like very exciting.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, holy shit, I did this, like, this is crazy.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just thought about this thing and made it come true.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's super cool.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I had all these experiences, and then I got into this dark night of the soul, and then realized like nothing was going my way.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: It was like it shut off.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, shit, like what's like what happened?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: What changed?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why is everything just like not working out for me now?
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it came, it it came.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: I came to the realization through reading and practice and conversations, and right.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: There's there's so many different things that I dip my fingers into.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just kind of like this, you know, you kind of you realize as you're kind of going just living life.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm I'm a very small piece of the whole thing, right?
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I can't manipulate change.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's more of I'm a drop in the ocean, but I don't have the force to manipulate the ocean.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: However, what happens is if I flow into a wave, then I have the power of the ocean behind me because the wave is already moving and I'm just choosing to go in it.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's about trying to find alignment in my life with my desires, with the people, with the circumstances, with the timing, with the location, with everything that would actually make sense, right?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like what is probable?
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: What is what is possible in this situation?
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Still might seem kind of like, oh, that's strange.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's right, like things that manifest do seem surprising to people.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, but it's like, I'm not gonna go in and just like play the lottery and expect to visualize and win.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, why do I want to win the lottery in the first place?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because I want a lot of money.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, what would I do with that money, right?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: You ask yourself, what is the outcome that I want?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_00: Is it is it a house?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a new car?
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a name your thing, right?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, if you focus on that thing instead, then you've now changed your odds from I'm gonna go win the lottery, which is one in a million.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: And even if I'm a really good manifestor, I can change those odds, but that's still like one in a hundred thousand, right?
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's still not good odds, right?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's like quant.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what's the quantum probability?
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, okay, let me look at different things and let me look at like how is the universe working?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: What is what seems to be progressing, not just in my life, but everyone's life as you know, as a collective.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, how do I get on board with that?
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: How do I align myself?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: How do I align my own goals, my visions, my desires with the things that the way that things seem to be happening?
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's a lot easier to get step into alignment, let go, and just let the river wash you downstream in like towards your desires.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's a lot of visualization in that.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: I like that a lot.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: That's really cool.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: That was my one realization, and then there was a second realization.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: So tell me that one too.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: So the second one was I've said that I've been non-religious my entire life.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_00: I got into I had my spiritual awakening, I got into ancient texts, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like I got into reading the Bible and like what is I didn't, I wasn't interested by the religion itself.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was really interested in the text, the the practices, the the things like that, right?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: So I got into all this stuff, uh, but I came to realize like I was calling the universe, I was right, choose your word, you know, source, universe, God, whatever, blah, blah, blah.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like is, you know, kind of what to people typically say.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: I always opted for universe because I was non-religious, so I didn't want, you know, like that was my word of choice.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I came to realize that the universe feels very physical.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I use the word universe, I think of the physical universe, not beyond that.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, that doesn't really define to me something higher, right?
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: That just feels just to the physical plane.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: And also I couldn't really have a relationship with the universe.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: So I I fought this for a long time, and I was just like, what if I started using the word God?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what if I chose to use the word God instead?
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: And then immediately I was like, well, I refuse to listen to people on podcasts or read books that were too like Bibley for me, right?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, I don't want to turn people off.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then I sat with this for a very long time and I was like, I can have a relationship with God, and I don't have to explain that to anyone.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't have to explain it to myself.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: And that was the moment that like it all unclicked for me, and I started using the word God, and I was still like, I would prep people and be like, I'm non-religious, but I use the word God.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, right, I would like to make excuses for it.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like I couldn't just and I'm still working on that, but right, like I started to develop a relationship with God.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_00: I started referring to God, I started actually praying as a result of it.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then prayer became an incredibly impactful daily practice for me.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: So my two realizations were I'm not all powerful, right?
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like I can align my will to the universe and then things will flow.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot, I cannot command, I cannot change, I cannot will my desires onto the universe and force it to change.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: And the second was that I have to develop a relationship with God.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: So that has been like why I've been dragged through the mud over the past year plus to come to those realizations and to build that relationship with something higher than myself.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, that's huge.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's a big realization for sure.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: So what's next for you?
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_02: What it where what does it feel like your journey is is doing now?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: Where where is it that you want to take yourself next?
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a lot of letting go that needs to happen.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: I have a need for control.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: So, right, like to let go, to let things happen, to stop.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: Waiting for things to happen and just be okay with moving forward.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's like letting go is a huge track for me right now.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'd say even more important than that is I've always, which is kind of in line with it, but I've always been driven by my mind, right?
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: I've always led from my from my head over my heart.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's about exploring this relationship with my heart, which I do have a very powerful relationship with, but my mind has like my mind has stepped in for my heart for most of my life.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then I actually only realized this morning, like when I do actually let like lead with my heart and my and and my heart blocks my head, that also leads to like bad things happening in my life.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's about like kind of play this play between what is what is the relationship between my head and my heart, and how do I help them have a better relationship that is better for me as a collective unit?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: That's so interesting.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: What is your authority?
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: Are you emotional authority or are you sacral?
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I only know that I only know that I'm a six too many genny, and that's all that I got.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: It just makes me curious.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have it pulled up it in front of me to look at, but I'm just curious.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm wondering if if either, I mean, you seem to me to be really making decisions pretty quickly, which feels very sacral, feels very generator sacral.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: The uh-has and uh-uh's, and it's happening in the moment and it's happening in your body, like going towards and moving away from what I think.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Even when you said no, you were kind of like, no, putting some distance, you know.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: So it it seems that way, but it's making me wonder if there's some definition in your body graph between your head and your heart.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I wonder how much you've made a lot of decisions with your head and logic, and probably have some definition.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna guess.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_02: My guess is that you have a defined ajna and and your sacral authority, but you're feeling the misalignment when too much of it is thinking and deciding versus using your gut instinct.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: Or you've been a like me, a person who's always said yes, and you're actually an emotional authority, and that your decision making would be better served by waiting to respond, because generators we respond, which is makes conversation flow so easily.
• 26:41
  unknown: Yeah.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: But maybe that is where there's a little bit of a battle.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: Your intellect is battling your heart wanting to take the decision making over.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: That would be my curiosity looking at your chart.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_02: But again, I don't have it in front of me to to look at it right now.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: But it's very, it's very interesting to me the way you're languaging it.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_02: And it's making me wonder.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have to after after we finish recording, but Dan and I will check that out and see if my hypothesis is true.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's really, I think it's really interesting that that idea of what what is what is my intellect telling me and what am I feeling pulled towards?
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_02: What it what is kind of driving me?
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that that gets me really excited in people's journeys, and especially when you're talking about something like intuition, there's really a lot quieter than our mind.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, there's our mind and our thinking, and then there's us kind of watching the thinking happening.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's such an amazing dynamic that can occur.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes when our mind is so busy, it's hard to hear the subtleties of our body speaking to us and our intuition talking.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_02: So, how have you learned to be more tuned in to your intuition?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I look at intuition as the muscle that controls all of this, right?
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: So, like whether you are like people will self-identify as like I'm clairsentient or I'm clair audience or I'm whatever it might be, or I've experienced this or I've experienced that over my life.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I see it all as just intuition.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Intuition is a different vibration or a different frequency or a different manifestation for all of us.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: But right, like we we often experience, we we we identify with certain kind of modalities or practices or or things the most, but oftentimes we we experience and have multiple, right?
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like I look at intuition as the centralized muscle.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's a it's a muscle that you can train and grow, and something that you can build.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: And the way that you do that is by listening and honoring.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: So by when it's telling you to do something, recognize it, be aware of it, and then take action against it to honor it, because then you're saying, I want more of this, I want more of this.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: So intuition is the muscle, you train it, you what's your question?
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you listen to it?
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's it's very much just like awareness is the first key.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like that has been doing research, having conversations, hearing other people's experience, even talking to someone who identifies as Claire Audience, and then talking about the tinnitus that they have, and then being like, Oh, well, what does the ringing in my ear mean?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: So now I'm aware of that, and then now it comes up, and then right, like I was outside chopping wood this morning and I hear a ringing in my right ear.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I say, Oh, normally I get the ringing in my left ear.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: So why is it different?
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why is it it very rarely happens in my right ear?
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_00: What do I need to look for?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_00: So just looking at like the subtle cues, the things that come up in our senses for for for no reason.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, why am I why am I feeling this sense and there is no physical cause to the effect?
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: That cause is unseen.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: So what does that mean?
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's something that's coming from beyond the physical, right?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: So just it's really just having the awareness and and wanting to look for it, having the desire to look for it, and then just paying attention and then looking into it, trying to understand, reflecting and saying, like, what does this mean?
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I feeling this thing?
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: Why am I hearing this noise right now?
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Look around.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Am I okay?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Am I safe?
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Is you know, can I keep going?
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: Or, you know, so it's just a pause to kind of just reminder to be present in the moment and just reflect on like what could this potentially mean?
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it's obvious and sometimes it's not at all, or somewhere in between.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: I I have clear audience, and what's really cool is I realized that for years I've always had static in my ears.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_02: I just had learned to tune it out to some degree, but it's more like a like a frequency, and and sometimes it'll like come in and get a little louder and then fade out and go away.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I usually I take it as like, okay, pay attention.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: There's gonna be something else to it's kind of like the way that the attention is gathered from me.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: And the other thing is it like static on a TV?
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: Kind of.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like trying, I'm trying to listen to it right now.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of yeah, it's kind of like static on a TV, but then like more like a hum.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's more static.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_02: I would say it's more static, and then every once in a while it'll come in with like a whoo, and then it goes out.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I also hear songs, I hear songs and song lyrics, and I started to pay more attention to what they were.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like I will get a song in my head for like five days, and I will wake up in the middle of the night, the song is still playing.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_02: I will wake up in the morning, the song is still playing, and I started keeping track, or if like a song was playing, I would listen to the song and then I would be drawn towards a particular lyric that would have some sort of meaning.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I started to kind of connect the dots.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's very interesting.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_02: I have a human design friend, and she's created this whole program where she has every every type, authority, gates.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: She has a song or a list of songs that you can play on Spotify to listen to to kind of decondition it, to decondition whatever the the flavor of that that gate or that channel or that type is, or to get more in alignment with like you know who you are.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_02: Trying to think of like one of the Manny Gen ones.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_02: I can't think of them off the top of my head, but they're all like tunes you could dance to and party to and have a good beat, you know?
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it's really it's super interesting.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I've enjoyed that idea that it doesn't have to be so like I only ever knew about flare buoyance, like people's like seeing things into the future, getting pictures.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I had a very limited sense of what that meant until I experienced it in a different way, and I started to question, like, oh, well, maybe it comes through the way that works for the person who's receiving the information.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: But I agree with you, if you don't have awareness that it could be there at all, you wouldn't.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: I also get clear cognizance, and like I started to notice I'd be driving.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_02: And if I was really calm and just like very present, I would like see a deer in my head or have a feeling like on my shoulder, like slow down, police.
• 33:47
  unknown: Yeah.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_02: And and it wouldn't even, it wouldn't come through as words, it would come through as like a picture or feeling.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then, and then I would pass some deer on the side of the road, or I would find like a cop car was hiding there.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_02: And it happened enough that I was like, oh, I really need, I need to make sure I'm more tuned into that.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_02: Where it's coming from, I don't, I don't know.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: I figured that out.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't really matter to me.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: It was just the that you could be that much of a a channel and it and attuned so easily to be able to pull that information in from wherever it's coming.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I look at we are an antenna constantly uploading and downloading consciousness.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: And we download it and then I don't want to say manipulate it, but like we put our flavor on it, right?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then spit it back into the into the into the world.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: I guess the morphic field is is always something that like resonates for me, right?
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's just the the like broad communication network where where we kind of like tap into all these things.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's and it's interesting, right?
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you if you don't know what to look for, like all these things happen to everyone all the time, and we just like think they're coincidences or we think nothing of them and we don't connect the dots, right?
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: So it's all just pattern recognition.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, hey you have to be open to it to even like right, like you're gonna have to talk to someone who's gonna open up your mind or or watch a watch a show or something like that to like get you in interested in like, is this even a possibility?
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Right, to to give yourself the courage to be like, I'm gonna start looking for this, right?
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm gonna be open to like someone told me a cool story, I watched a cool movie where this thing happened, and like I'm just gonna look for the next time that something weird happens where like an image flashes in my mind, or I hear something or I have a song in my head, right?
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what happens if I stop and actually look into that?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like you said, like, what are the lyrics of that song?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: What are those lyrics to mean to me in my life right now?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: What is this image?
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: And based on the context that I'm having right now, like if I have a flash of a deer in my mind and I'm driving my car, like that's a warning message to me.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, let me just look out and see if I see any deer, right?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like pay attention to it and then just start to play with it.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_00: And then the more that those things, right?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like you have those synchronicities, you have those experiences that do come true where you're like, I saw the thing, I looked out for it, I paid attention to it, I'm honoring it.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: And then now something like something in his alignment with that.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: And holy shit, like that was that recognition?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Was that like a warning sign?
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Was that whatever?
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like you start to be more open to it.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_00: So then you look to pay attention, more attention, uh, more attention, give give more attention and awareness to that thing, and then it opens right like it's again like playing different instruments.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like now you start to look for, okay, well, that flash in my in my mind, that image of this deer was very compelling to me.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: What happens if I now pay attention to the ringing in my ears?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_00: Or what happens if I pay attention to the thoughts that pop into my head that I don't know where they came from and just like they're arbitrary and they weren't connected to the previous thought, right?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: So you said something like, What if I track it?
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: So this is an incredibly I'm I'm a hyper analytical person.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: I love data, I love like tracking things.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: So there was recently a time where I was like, I feel like I haven't had as many synchronicities in my life.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna start tracking my and my synchronicities.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: So track like the date, what the synchronicity was, and what I did with that information.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and the moment that I started tracking it, more happened.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, am it did I actually manufacture more synchronicities, or did I just realize that I've always been having this many?
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't really matter.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: The outcome was the desirable one, which is I want to experience more synchronicities in my life.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I think that's what's really cool when you start to kind of go back and go, oh, wait, this was happening.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like I one of the things that I started to realize right around, I don't know, probably like seven or eight years ago, I got back into writing poetry.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I had always related to the writing process and how easily it came to me, but I realized actually what happens is I channel them.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: They come, they come through me and I just and sometimes more than one at once, so fast.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: I actually write a wrote a poem about poems one time that was about how like they'll come through so fast that I miss one and I apologize to it because I just I couldn't catch it quick enough to be able to do something with it.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that it's really fascinating to me that we can kind of shift our perspective over time and and re-evaluate and almost create a new narrative about our experiences that way.
• 38:22
  unknown: Yeah.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_02: You're nodding your head.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: Is that true for you?
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_02: Have you had that experience where you're like, let me wait, let me reframe this?
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I also think that like culturally, we will say that like we hate change, humans hate change.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like to change.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: Change is inevitable, and change is the most beautiful thing, and change is persistent and constant.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_00: So when you when you kind of embrace it, you're really like, I are you familiar with Zen Cohen's?
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: No, tell me about it.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: So they're kind of like a question that can't be answered that uh that a master will teach a student, right?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just a question to reflect on for a very long time to realize the ultimate, like there is no answer to the question.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: You you try and find an answer to the question, but the answer is there is no answer to the question.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: It's the it's the fact that you're reflecting on it that is the potency of the exercise.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: So the question of who am I to me is the biggest Zen Cohen ever existed, right?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know that Danmott really exists, right?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I look at who I was as a child, or in my teens, or in my 20s, or in my 30s, or who I will be, right?
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you can look at physically every seven years, uh, our body replaces every single cell in our body.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we're physically not the same person, right?
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's just the process of death regeneration, recycling.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: Our minds change, our beliefs change.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: The way we even like process and think about memories changes over time, right?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's there's so much that like nothing is to me, nothing is consistent over time, right?
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like I now look at myself as so malleable that it's very easy for me to be like, what's the difference of me wanting this thing and and trying so hard for it and fighting my way through it and grinding, and then it didn't end up working out the way that I want it to anyway.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I was still okay with the outcome and I'm very happy with where I'm at today.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then anytime anyone has ever asked me in my life, you know, would I change anything?
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'd say, like, despite all the bad things that have happened to me in my life, no, I wouldn't.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I realized that no matter where I am, I'm always going to be happy, right?
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm always going to be in a good spot.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm always going to be perpetually in the best place I've ever been in my life moving forward.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, I try so hard.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: Why?
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've kind of like given over to the will of the universe where I'm like, and this is this is more of like a an idea than than something I can fully put into practice.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have a wife and I have two young children and I need to like be realistic about things.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: But like, I'm like, what happens if I just fully like go?
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_00: What happens if I don't make decisions?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: What happens if I just like let a dream guide me, or tarot card readings guide me, or synchronicities guide me, or what happens if I just let go and just wherever I end up, I'm going to be happy anyway.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_00: So what if I just let go of all that control?
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: And what happens if I just let the universe fully take me to where I'm supposed to go and enjoy every minute along the way?
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: What if I asked the same question, right?
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what if but there's like it's like you have to follow something.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like you then, I mean, you could sit there and meditate for a certain period of time, but then eventually you'd have to get up and take care of the human, right?
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_02: The human is like, you you must feed me, you must let me sleep, you must do all these things for me, or I decompose.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: So like you, you there's the imperative to just keep going.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, but it but it's a fascinating question.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so I did pull up your chart, Dan.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_02: So one of my inklings was true, you are an emotional authority, and you don't have definition in the centers in your head in Ajna.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_02: However, you do have quite a few gates, and I'm I'm curious, like whether or not, and it's it's very, I don't know if I can let's see.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_02: Should we share it on screen?
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_02: Are you cool with that?
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm gonna go.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm curious, I have a lot of questions now.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: I just know the basics.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: I I learned them and they were incredibly helpful, and I was like, that's as much as I need to learn for right now.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_02: So okay, pulling it up.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_02: Share my screen.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I think this is where it gets really interesting, and and like we can take so much from our, you know, what we get from just the initial like get-go of like here's here's your here's your chart, your your manifesting generator, there's an energy to that.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_02: But there's a lot of nuance to the chart.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_02: And when we get into the nuanced pieces of the chart, that's where it starts to get very interesting.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: So although, as I said, you you you do have your emotional solar plexus is defined.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: So you have emotional authority.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: So that's where I was saying you wait to respond rather than saying yes in the moment, and that sometimes we can just do that.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: But what's really interesting about your chart, just the geometry alone is fascinating.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: So your split definition, which I don't know if you can tell completely here.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'll I'll draw a little picture for you.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_02: And for those of you who are listening and not watching this, I'm drawing a circle around the ego/slash will center and the emotional solar plexus, and then I'm drawing a circle around the sacral G center, which is the center of direction, and the throat.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_02: So you have those two sections and they're not connected with each other, which is really interesting.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: So you've got this power and motor to your throat coming from it's like your throat, your sense of who you are and where you're going, and then your sacral is kind of like fueling it from underneath.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: And then what's really interesting is you look at your head and ajna up at the top here.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: So this is this is the head, this is the ajna.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: But look at how interesting you've got the 64 and the 63, you've got the 17 and the 11, and then you've got the 24.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: But look at the symmetry in there.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like just and for those of you that are listening, you should absolutely go go look at the video so you could just see this part and see looking at Dan's chart.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_02: So you have the 64 and the 63, and your your head is inspiration and ideas, right?
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then you've got the 17 and and the 11 and the 24, which is a lot of your ajna.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_02: So that's giving you a lot of like your your thinking and analysis.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_02: So those gates may be very prevalent.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: And actually, now that I'm looking, I didn't even look at your personality sun is 11.6.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: So your your top gate in your Design is 11.6.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_02: So let me stop my annotating and I can just show you.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: So that's uh sorry about the little house of writing.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_02: You have the gift of developing ideas and bringing them to the world.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_02: These inspiring concepts serve to provide impulses to others so that those who feel called can realize or implement them.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_02: So your authority is emotional, but your design son is in your head.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think that may be that play of like, I'm pulled by these thoughts and ideas.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_02: But like, should my heart have some say here?
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think what's really interesting, and what you could play with is using your emotional authority for making decisions, right?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_02: For for saying yes or no to things, waiting to respond because you have an emotional wave.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: So you experience full range of emotions up and down.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: And so, and I say that knowing that a lot of us who were born with a lot of emotions were too much for people.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of times maybe we've toned those downs.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe, maybe we don't express them as much.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: And you also, depending on, I haven't really teased into it too much, but there are different different types of emotional waves depending on the the channels that you have.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_02: I know I'm giving you a lot of language on this, but so some of them are more like like mine, the channels that I have defined that are emotional channels are ratcheting, which means they kind of go, they kind of go up and down and up and down and up and down, down, up and down and up and down.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: And they eventually come to like a big up and then a big down and then they go.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: So learning my emotional wave, you know, what we're saying about like you write down, you experiment, you try with it.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: So once I learned that my emotional wave was like that, I knew I had to delay responding to things because if I responded when I was in the high, happy part of my wave, it was always going to be a yes.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_02: Everything sounds fun when you're in a really good mood.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: I joke, like, it's like when you're at dinner and you you've had drinks and appetizers, the company is great, you're feeling great.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_02: The waiter comes around and asks you if you want dessert, and really truly, you're full and you do not have room to eat another thing, and you eat the dessert and you regret it the next day.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like that, I feel like is like a nice gentle parallel to how life can, you know, smack us upside the head and say, This is a poor choice on your part.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: You should have said no, you should have waited to respond.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I would wonder how much that there's that combatitiveness there.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_02: And rather than having them battle for decision making, let your emotions and that emotional wave guide your responding to things.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: But so you're not thinking to make the response, but your thinking is used in the process in a different way, you know, and and allowing you to go down that the all the the rabbit holes, so to speak.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_00: Allowing my thinking mind to do the analysis, weigh the costs and benefits, lay out all the options in a in a very logical way, but then not being the decision maker and then letting my emotion decide from there.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: When the time like when not in the moment, but when the time is right.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_02: And for some people, the time is is longer or shorter.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like some people are like, oh, I mean, like within 24 hours, I have two emotional like ups and downs.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: And some people are like, it's 72 hours.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_02: So you just have to know for yourself.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of where you can you can play with the information in your highs and your lows, and then get to kind of like a neutral state, and then feel in your body, is it a yes or a no?
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_02: And you'll you'll feel the feeling in your body, you'll feel the yes as a movement and emotion versus like thinking this is a great idea.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_02: Because I did all the thinking and I like you, I have open head and agen, but mine has zero definition.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_02: I have no gates, no channels, nothing.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's just completely empty.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_02: But I learned that because of that, I'm literally so open-minded that I can channel things.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: So well, when before we started recording this podcast, I was telling you about my podcasting journey.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I recognized very quickly that all the preparation in the world didn't really matter if my energy wasn't right.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_02: And if my energy was right, I didn't really need to worry about the details in the moment.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_02: I could just be in the moment and trust that the questions, and often I will get questions that are not even my question.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: They're coming from some person in the future who's gonna listen to the conversation and need that question answered.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it's very interesting.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: So you have a really cool chart.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: Very, very cool.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: You've got some cool stuff in here, and there are definitely some ways that we could explore it even deeper to find because I'm also curious knowing that you're you're close to 38.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_02: Is that right?
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_02: That is when we have, I gotta get it right.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: Is it your Uranus opposition that happens around 38?
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that's right.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_02: So we could look at that and we could see what you could what you could expect from that.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_02: All right, I'm gonna stop sharing.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna stop geeking out and we'll we'll shift back in.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_02: But I think that's really it's really interesting to see how all of that plays out.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_02: And and what I say is like this is not a prescription, like your your human design isn't telling you who you're supposed to be or what you're supposed to do.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: At the very least, it's really interesting and and permission to to continue in the energetic state you've already figured out works for you through the work that you've been doing.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_02: But it's also giving us a a way to look at some of the ways we're interested in deconditioning or taking advantage of opportunities in in things happening in space and time that can allow us to experiment in our lives.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_02: And obviously, I'm a one-three, so I'm all about the experimentation and and the research.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: And this is where I totally start to geek out because the possibilities are pretty, pretty endless and also not, it should never be limiting for people.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_02: So you play with it, you experiment with it, and then I want to hear what you what you figured out.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: And when you start to pay attention and have a little more awareness of how am I making decisions and what does that look like?
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: What does that feel like?
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_02: And when I'm going to make a reflexive decision, how does that feel in my body?
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like, or where I'm like, I'm not, I can't, I can't do this, I don't want to do this, you know?
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's it's it's super weird, right?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_00: Because like that.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_00: I knew that like my head and my heart were fighting, right?
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like fighting for like who gets to be like who gets to be in control.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: And that both are very, for lack of better words, strong-headed, right?
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like they're both very strong for me, but for the most part, my mind wins out and kind of like beats beats my heart into submission.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, and I know that I've also made in the times, and I like I only literally realized that this this morning.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I need to spend more time reflecting on it.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_00: But I uh it occurred to me, I was like, I have made decisions with my heart and put logic to the side in the past, and that have all has also led to catastrophic events in my life, right?
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like is my act of like trying to get my head out of the way of my heart just letting another monster right like behind the wheel, right?
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: Is it now it's not just them, it's not about letting one get more time in the light than the other, right?
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's still they're still just fighting for limited resource, like who gets to make the decision, and right, that's that's like from a place of scarcity.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: So it becomes very interesting to me as you're talking about all this, and I'm like thinking, and I'm literally seeing the visualization of the connection of the disconnect between my head and my heart on my chart.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: And how like there's there's things that are like they're opposites of each other, like they almost want to plug in, but because they're opposite, like they're they're they're not connected.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like the potential for connection is there, and it's not about choosing one or the other, or not you know, like it's not supposed to be I'm I'm supposed to lead with my heart and put my heart in front of my head because that's just the opposite, like that's just the polar opposite direction, and both are bad, right?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's about finding that balance.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, how do I then live my way and in such a way, live my life in such a way that I can let both make decisions, right?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: And maybe I don't make decisions unless both are in alignment.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I force them to kind of like make a decision together and agree on the chain and agree on it because A, that would slow me down because I would be less likely to jump into things.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: And then right when I do actually do so, it's in full body alignment.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I think the alignment alignment is the word I was thinking in my head, and then you said it.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I think it's it's about being in alignment.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I think you made a nice distinction between like the heart can be the monster, like our feelings can be monsters.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_02: And if we just let them decide everything, then we're sort of at the whim of of whatever's happening.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_02: And when you have an emotional wave and you're feeling all these emotions all the time, it's like, whoa.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I can say for myself, one of the things that I've experimented with is like, what does it feel good to do in different parts of my emotional wave?
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: And rather than making it, I always felt like, oh my gosh, what's wrong with me that I'm feeling so blue?
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm feeling so down.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_02: And I and I start to be like, well, well, what if you took away the negative connotation of feeling sadness?
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_02: And like, what do people do when they're feeling really sad?
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: They they can get into creativity.
• 56:43
  unknown: Yeah.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I'd be like, well, then I'm gonna put on some radio head and I'm gonna write some poetry and I'm gonna see what comes out.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: And then it becomes about using that access to sadness to be creative and to to kind of explore something.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: Or, you know, if I'm in the high part of my wave, I have more energy.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe maybe that's a good time to exercise or go for a walk or go interact with people and like move my body and do something and be okay with like sometimes in my lowest, like I'm not gonna, I'm not into it in the moment.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not, I don't want, I don't want to go exercise.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's just not gonna happen.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: I've I feel drawn to like use a different facet of myself.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: Plus, you add in the manifesting generator piece, and you're like, I need to do all the things, I need to do many, many things.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: More please.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_02: More please, more please.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I I I think the distinction that you're making between just blindly following one or the other and instead recognizing you are a whole, and even though the the chart is your chart you came into this world with, that doesn't mean that you haven't figured out ways to make them make sense together.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: And like those little arms are reaching out and reaching down to connect.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_02: And the cool thing about that when when you have a split and there's just one one gate where you could be connected, all those centers that you have defined right by right from your, I think it was from your, hang on, I'll pull it up on my phone.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, you you have the capacity there.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: I think it was gate 51 because 25 is reaching out to the will center.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_02: And so sometimes what I tell people is you could play with what is that 51 about, or maybe you've already figured that out for yourself, how to make it all make sense and work together.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, what's the 51?
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_02: The 51, that's a great question.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_02: Let's look at the 51.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: I happen to have my resources with me at all times.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see, what is that 51?
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_02: So this is part of my one.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: This is what I've learned.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I think the thing that's so important about learning, at least in my experience, learning my human design, is to give myself permission to be who I am authentically.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_02: And authentically, I need all the books and I need to do all the research.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is not even this is some of the books.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: I've got all the books everywhere all the time, and I I have to have like five resources and I have to do the research, and then I have to play, call myself the nutty professor and playing with it.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_02: So this is so exciting.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_02: So gate 51 is the gate of shock, the ability to respond to disorder in shock through recognition adaptation.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_02: So that's really interesting to me.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_02: That it would be the gate, the gate of shock.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_02: I also then like to look at the languaging through Karen Parker.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_02: And she calls it initiation.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_02: The ability to consciously use cycles of disruption and unexpected twists and turns of faith as catalysts that deepen their connection to source and their life and soul purpose.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you're kind of doing that.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: Connection to source and figuring out your life and soul's purpose.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_00: So this is like leaving myself open to whatever's going to happen and then use that event, that synchronicity as like a guidepost for where to go, right?
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to expect.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_00: And like, oh, that's cool.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_00: Let me go chase that.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let me go see what that's about.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I so it's it's really just a matter of figuring out.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, how do I how do I put all this together, make it make sense?
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that gate 11, that's your design son is the conceptualist in the quantum human design language, which yeah, your awareness that you're a vessel for ideas, and you are.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it and I think kind of the cool thing, you know, initially I thought maybe you had that defined ash, but I think the cool thing is you're a vessel for ideas.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_02: And to me, like being a vessel for ideas means there's this openness and not this like concrete thought about what it should be, but this ever-evolving sense of information and possibilities.
• 1:01:17
  SPEAKER_02: And and I think the exploration that you bring to it is really cool.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_02: So, and and don't forget you're a generator.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_02: Generators follow what lights them up.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so I feel like that that too is important to remember.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like when you're talking about your strategy and your authority, your strategy is to respond to what lights you up.
• 1:01:37
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: And follow, follow like that bouncing ball of joy, whatever it takes you into.
• 1:01:42
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_02: And then your authority is just to help you make decisions and stay in alignment.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_02: So I think if you use those, and then you know, generators and and manifesting generators, we're we're aware that we're in alignment when we feel satisfaction and we're out of alignment when we feel frustration.
• 1:02:04
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_02: And so that becomes another way of just guideposting yourself, which obviously you've done.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's the cool thing about human design is that you oftentimes I tell people, and it's the first time that they've heard their human design, or they get a little more in depth with it, and they're like, Well, that makes sense.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_02: That makes sense.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's an alignment with who I think I am.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_02: And uh ultimately it doesn't matter.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, to your point, I'm not going to say the question exactly as you posed it, but what if I just did nothing?
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_02: What if I didn't, what if I never knew this?
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: What if I what if I didn't go into it and explore it?
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_02: Would I still would I still get to the same place that I'm going?
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_00: What if I walked into anything with zero expectations, other than something good is going to happen to me today?
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_00: Or like that's that's always like the most magical things that have happened to me was when I had no clue what was gonna happen, but I just knew something good was gonna happen.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then the synchronicities were like through the frickin' roof.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, really cool stuff happens when I'm in that place of being completely indifferent and just like zero expectation, don't really care.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, either way, I'm here, let's make the most of it, right?
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_00: And like that's when all of like when I think of the most magical things happening, like that's when I'm in that state of mind.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, 100%.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I would love for you to tell us a little bit about your podcast, what you have going on, and then how people can connect with you.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_00: So my podcast, Altered States, is my own personal journey to explore the mind, the universe, and consciousness itself.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_00: So I have guests come on who talk about mystical experiences, metaphysical, magical things, dream workers, uh channelers, you know, astrologists, human design, so many things.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: Anything that, you know, helps me better understand what is all of this and and how is it all working and what like what can we take away from that?
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_00: How can we learn from that?
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_00: How can we put it into daily practice?
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm all about.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: I do the same thing in the mind mastery community.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is for people who want to actually put these things into practice.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to come learn how to pick your poison right, like my learning track for the year has been lucid dreaming, astral projection, remote viewing, but again, all of these things are different manifestations of intuition, right?
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: So it's all about like training your intuition.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't proclaim to teach anyone how to do anything, it's just a safe space to come learn and practice together and learn from one each other one another, ask questions and share in our experiences together.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd love for you to come check out the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you're if you're down, join the community and and come hang out and do some challenges and let's let's experience and learn and do some cool things together.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, I love that.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_02: We'll put all that in the show notes.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_02: And where can they find you on social media?
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_02: Any any places you like to hang out?
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_00: I hate being on LinkedIn.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to like remove myself from LinkedIn, but that's the only like personal account I have because like I removed myself from social media otherwise.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_00: Altered States does have a I primarily publish to YouTube, so YouTube altered states, and then I have an Instagram account for it as well.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_02: So okay, that's really cool.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_02: I feel you.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's gosh, that's like a whole other conversation, Dan.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it feels so limiting.
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  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I like I'm just so curious about it's again one of those things.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what if I just quit everything?
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_02: What if I just stopped and just pulled myself out of everything?
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what do I have?
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_02: Where am I?
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_02: There's like a lot of conventional conventional wisdom about how you're supposed to build and and retain.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_02: And it's hard because I think there are so many people that I've connected with that I wouldn't have had access to.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, even I've moved to Substack, even Substack has changed quite a bit since I started.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_02: It used to be a lot more grassroots and a lot more just like a whole bunch of, you know, writers who are just bleeding their hearts on the on the screen every day.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_02: And then it became a little bit inevitable.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's so disappointing.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's so disappointing because I it felt so like very raw and unstructured and level playing field, like there weren't all these big names, they hadn't yet like come into the space.
• 1:06:41
  SPEAKER_02: So, but it's like, how do you reconcile that and actually have a place where people can find you?
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's what that's that's my my current non-spiritual question, but it also kind of is spiritual in a sense.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my thought has been stop trying so hard, right?
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm so I I've stopped trying to figure out like what content works and what doesn't.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm I come back to like, I'm just gonna do what makes me happy, and it's actually proven to to work out pretty good.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, okay, what it what I've I've been on this track of selfish selflessness.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_00: So like I'm just like, I'm just gonna do the things that I want to do with without like, is this going to get me more followers?
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_00: Is this going to get me a client?
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_00: Is this going to get me blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever it is?
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm just like, what if I just exclusively do the things that I want to do?
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's like when I start when I first started altered states, that was like the first time I'd ever experienced that in my life.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I don't really care.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I just want to talk to people that I want to talk to about the stuff I want to talk about.
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the only reason I'm doing this thing.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_00: I put it out there and I was just like, oh my God, how can I make the rest of my business more like this?
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_00: I just like, and then I went down a rabbit hole of unraveling all the things, which like again, right?
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, maybe making decisions too fast and and leading with my logical mind or my heart and and not allowing them to kind of communicate with one another.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, that's that's been my path and that's been working.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like, fuck it, mode.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna put out the stuff I want to put out and not care what anyone else thinks about it because I know that I'm gonna find the people who are like me and care about the stuff that I care about and not trying to work the algorithm, not trying to figure out the secret sauce.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I've done that my entire career being in B2B Mar sales and marketing, and I'm just like, screw it, just do what makes me happy.
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_00: What do I actually enjoy doing?
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, always come back to that question.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_00: All right, like you you mentioned what am I most excited about in the moment?
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_00: Go for that.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_02: I love that, I love that answer.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and honestly, it's freaking magic.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_02: It really is.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_02: Because when I, you know, pressed record on my podcast all those years ago and called it the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast, like I was just like, okay, here we go.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see what happens.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_02: And it and it worked out, and I decided to just shift everything I was doing to focus centrally on human design and doing it my own way, and it's working out pretty well.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_02: There are actually people who want to do that.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'm actually doing human design treasure hunt with people, with like literally, I was like, I want to make maps that they're scratching off and and finding elements of their human design.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: I love this.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, and uh nobody taught me how to do that.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_02: I figured that out myself because it feels like fun.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_02: And if I if I have an element of fun, there's nothing I can't do.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I kind of I kind of feel that.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I'm feeling a little more free to just be willing to be disliked.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's cringy, it's hard, and it's like, but for people to be like, that you are not for me.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_02: You're definitely not for me.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_02: Because the people that find you, like, especially when when you've gotten into something like the astral projection and stuff, like that is a very specific thing.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_02: And the people who are gonna find you are gonna be super duper into it and be like, that's cool, what else?
• 1:10:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:10:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I that's what I'm finding, and just absolutely trusting that when I'm more authentically myself and feel less compelled to go with conventional wisdom, I'm more likely to find the ideal people that I want to spend time with.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to have to convince anybody, it's just it's it's boring.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right?
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's like pushing a boulder uphill, only for you to get to the top, get tired, fall down, and have it roll over you.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like really, I know.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_02: I understand this.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you so much, Dan.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_02: I really appreciate you coming on and having such a great conversation and and using your manifesting generator energy and bouncing around the topics and ideas with me and diving into your human design a little bit.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_02: And for the listener, thank you for being here.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you for listening all the way to the end of the podcast.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_02: I hope you got a lot of value out of it.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Please like, share, follow, go down into the show notes, go check out Dan's YouTube channel and be sure to follow up, leave us a comment, and let us know what you thought.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll see you next time on the podcast.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_02: Bye for now.