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B4evaKool "race a motorcycle" Podcast Ep. 02 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  Welcome to the. Be forever fast.
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  Podcast with my main guy here. Main man here, TJ from two
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  wheels and coffee what's going on man?
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  Winter is a is winter is here. Not coming to see.
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  I guess the, it's not official until the 21st or something like
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  that. Right.
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  Yeah. So I guess we got some I guess
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  we got some time but she leave already.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  And in Boston is definitely a very cold cold morning today for
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  me anyway and I guess for t.j. to But this episode we're going
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  to talk about, you know, track getting to the track and and and
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  how all that works. For those who have have not gone
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  to the track for folks that have gone to the track.
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  You already know how it works. So you know it is what it is and
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  you think it is more than you think, you know it's You know, I
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  guess what, you know, once you decide you want to go to the
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  track, right? Because you already have your
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  motorcycle license you already ride and maybe you haven't
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  ridden at all you just want to do track days because there's a
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  lot of folks that only do track riding and and don't write on
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  the streets at all. So it all depends on which can't
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  be coming from. But at this point, you've
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  decided, yeah I'm going to get into the go to a track and see
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  what happens. All I know is if you do decide
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  to go to the track, best thing is always have a helping hand.
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  We first time, you don't want to drop your bike and there's a lot
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  of equipment involved so you want to burn all your energy
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  transport into my from so it's good to always have someone to
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  help you. Yeah.
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  Always to help you while you on the track as well.
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  Yes it is always nice if you can get there if you can get that
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  and It wil Get to that towards the end of the shoulder.
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  Just get into the track part, but, you know, so we've decided
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  that, you know, yeah, I'm gonna go to the track and and so now
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  you have to go get gear. And you know what kind of guy do
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  you get, right? You know, a lot of people pick
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  and choose what brand they like, you know, a lot of people like
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  name brands, right? And and the thing is even before
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  the name-brand part, you know, depending on where you going to
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  go. So I think First thing you have
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  to do, one of the first things you have to do is figure out
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  which track you want to go to. So depends on where you live how
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  far you live if you look you know you can just Google.
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  You did the track closest to you and then find a school or Club.
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  That's, you know, doing track days and I'll, you know, you
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  know, you know, upfront, you know, I've only done maybe three
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  track days in my 12 years of riding and I started out Tracing
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  and haven't done a track day, but I did attract a in 2019 for
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  the first time and I was racing since 2013, you know, we commute
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  about over an hour almost two hours.
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  So you know, The tracks not going to be too close to you so,
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  you know, just gonna be ready to commute to write a lot of people
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  come from all over, but there's there's track days close by to
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  that you can look up through Facebook to find or even Google.
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  Correct. You know how we?
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  Yeah, I think we can name a couple like and to and Tony's
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  track day up in the well they they kind of go everywhere.
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  There's some writing clubs that, you know, riding school like
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  penguin that that offers You know, track days along with the
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  schools and there's other clubs that offer track days along with
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  their schools. If you want to give you want to
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  go that route. So, figured that out, once you
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  figure it out, look at the rule books or the rules of what they
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  allow on the track because that's going to tell you what
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  you need to buy, because some places a lot will allow, you
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  know, to peace. Let this have, you know, in
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  generally always Leathers I think I've seen a couple where
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  it wasn't in some track days. Or, you know, I've seen photos,
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  you know? Because I haven't done a lot of
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  track days but generally I'm going to just look and see what
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  they allow because that's going to be the easiest thing, you
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  know, age of the helmet. What kind of gloves or kind of
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  boots, what kind of suit, right. There's some, a most important
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  thing is the age of the helmet. You don't want to go with the
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  old helmet found in your basement five years ago, if
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  someone had an old helmet. Just so you get on the track has
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  to be up to date correct within five years of the Next year to
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  that it was it was released released, right?
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  And that's more for race. And I think there's a little bit
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  lakhs on just the track day, but just keep in mind, helmets are
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  designed in such a way to disperse impact and they
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  generally work once, right? And after that, you have to get
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  a new helmet. So, if you have a hard crash,
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  sure, your helmet might looks, we might not have any scratches
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  on it, but if you banged It On The Ground, chances are, you
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  know, the next time, it's not going to work, which means
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  you're going to feel more of that impact.
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  So you don't want to go out with a damaged helmet, old helmet.
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  You know you when you when you're when you're, it's your
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  life. Yeah, gloves and boots that
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  stuff, you know, can last a little longer correct helmet has
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  to be at least up to date, right?
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  And so yeah, so once you know the the okay, I'm going to
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  Tony's track day and this is the rules.
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  So, okay, I'm gonna go get me a suit, I got my boots, I got to
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  get, you know, some some gloves and a helmet.
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  I know there are a lot of shops that, you know, the local that
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  you can go in and get fitted this little cycle gas around.
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  We only have one where we yeah there's one of mass and that the
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  next one is Rhode Island but there's other there's local bike
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  play with local bike shops. If they sell suits.
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  They'll tell you can go get fitted and and I think that's
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  the best way to go to get get instead of just going online and
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  purchase in a suit. Go get fitted because you know,
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  Oh, suits the design differently, cat different cuts
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  on them and stuff like that. Same thing with the helmets, you
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  know, I'd love a AVG helmet, that's one of my favorite
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  Brands, but my head doesn't doesn't work right for the shape
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  of my head. So depending on the type of
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  helmet, you know, you what you like and what you get may be
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  different because I would love one as well and if I got it it
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  was just, you know, sit on a wall or because I can't write
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  can't ride with it. It's like it's not going to be
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  comfortable. So I got a Alpine Star Race
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  suit. I didn't go in the store and get
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  fitted and I actually looked up online and everything and see
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  you in my size was right. And you know, they should suit
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  to me. I got to know and when I say
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  that it was race fit, it was race fit, got you.
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  It was a little bit too tight for me, okay.
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  So I actually had to ship it back.
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  Right, right. Right.
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  They sent me a sighs. Hi, one size higher, and it
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  actually fit pretty right good and, and that's what you're
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  saying. Go get fitted.
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  Yeah, that's that's what you save do you say, you know,
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  buying the wrong suit Especially and and then once you know, your
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  size, it's real easy, and every suit varies to, you know, like
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  on the numbers, exactly the hardest part.
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  Exactly. You know, you got the European
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  suits, Dainese with the European numbers, and them and and, and I
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  think Alpine Star also does that as well, you know?
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  Yeah. You know, there's other brands,
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  like, grab it and stuff like that.
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  So, you know, I think, you know, II use, you know, I have
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  dionysia spacesuits and That's what I prefer.
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  Although next season, I'm going with a different brand, but it's
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  going to be custom. But for the most part in, you
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  know, I've tried Alpine Star and I do like the fitted, the that
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  suit as well. And I kind of leaned towards
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  Alpine Star and and, and, and Dainese because they have the
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  airbags and but, you know, Alpine Star have more Universal
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  suits. Well, the airbag for for Alpine
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  style, you can use another And which is kind of cool.
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  So you know that that's a plus. And I say these Brands because
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  you know, the new Rider I think at this point it doesn't matter.
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  New or not, you know it makes sense to race or ride on a track
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  with a suit that has air bag in it.
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  Oh yeah and you know if you don't have one it's okay you
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  know you just need a chest protector in the back, whatever.
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  They also have airbag vest that you can you know, purchase brand
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  new or its people seldom used the with the headlight and we'll
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  just the other airbag best friend, you know, I will have to
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  look that up. Yeah, exactly exactly.
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  But there were few of them out there.
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  So there you have options where the over the destroy a suit or
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  underneath the race suit, you know, sums that are Tethered to
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  the bike and others that you know, you know, with the GPS in
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  the suit that you got to charge and stuff like that So yeah.
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  So it you know when you just when you find a shop to go to go
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  get fitted and you know your size and you have that all
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  figured out and you have a cost of of how much you're going to,
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  you're going to spend, you know. And you know, I think on
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  average, I think you're going to spend about 1,000 to 1,500 bucks
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  between a suit gloves and helmet.
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  And, and that's, you know, buying a suit that's around, 800
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  bucks. Any boot, you know, and, and
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  yeah, any boot. It's actually I was let's say
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  around 1800 to Grant. You know what I mean?
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  He's like, I can't just buy a regular gloves as for the
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  street, you need Gauntlet gloves.
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  So you know they're larger ones and you should go get fitted for
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  those as well because there's someone to that the ones I
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  purchased the first time they were like winter to style for.
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  I know. But they were track gloves but
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  they were really Tough D like grip and squeeze.
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  You know it wasn't like the gauntlet gloves I have now and
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  then you need some boots as well.
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  Right. They were running about 250.
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  Yeah, exactly. To, you know, 500 bucks, 600
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  bucks depending on what you're going to get or want.
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  Now I will say you can, you know, it's good to check out
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  forms because a lot of people sell use equipment and and stuff
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  like that because some people go out on the track and then You
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  know, it's not for them and then they have stuff that they've
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  born once or twice and and or life change, it happens or
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  whatever, you know, they just do whatever their reasoning that
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  they decide to sell these things.
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  So you could get lucky and get some deals on boots and a suit
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  and that type of thing and that type of thing is okay to buy.
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  Because, you know, you were a base layer underneath your suit.
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  So, you know, I mean some, you know, I don't know how to many
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  people that just go in it and their skin with the suit.
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  Everybody usually have a base layer because just once you
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  start sweating, it's just Easy to get in and out of the suit,
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  then to have your skin against the leather.
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  You know what I mean? So you can always check that
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  out. You know, somebody's bike,
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  places like RevZilla, Psycho Gear, they'll have sales and
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  stuff like that on left over. Yeah, on leftover equipment and
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  stuff and stuff like that. And you know you just gotta get
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  out there too. So you don't need matching gear
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  and trying to look pretty and know is, you know, you just need
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  the equipment to get your feet wet and When I first went to
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  actually watch and I had no equipment and you know, I
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  purchased little pieces here and there to get myself ready for
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  the next next year and and I made it happen but I don't have
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  all the best care. You know.
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  Right made it manageable and you know yeah I think I think that
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  happens over time. He first time is just Justice.
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  Really. Just trying to get out there and
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  just a learning experience so you're not I have all the
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  information. You're not going to purchase all
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  the right stuff for do all the right things.
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  That's you know, the cool thing, though, people help you, when
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  you're there and it will point out the things that that will,
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  you know, save you some time and effort, or money or skill or
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  whatever. So, you know, you gotta admit
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  that prices intimidating, like, I gotta start, hey, what ya know
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  is you have a bike? Yeah, you don't have a bike yet,
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  you're paying, you know, to Grand 2500 just to just to Get
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  in there it isn't. It is a very expensive sport
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  that period. It's a very expensive Sport and
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  you know, it's not for everyone and even the people that want to
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  do it, you they don't you run out of money.
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  You're not going to you just you just going to stop doing it
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  because it's very expensive. But it does, it does.
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  I think it always Street Experience unless you like doing
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  traveling pretty far, like up mountains and stuff like that.
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  You know, right quick rise here and they're fun but Their
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  experience on the track if you just do it in one time, you
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  know? I think it's worth it, right?
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  And then if you have the gear for it, you can also wear it on
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  the street to self-correct. Exactly.
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  I think so. So you know that's the part.
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  So once you have invested your two grand and it will 2500, we
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  got a deal online or got leftover suits or whatever the
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  case may be. You know, you got your suit.
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  I got to figure out if you have the bankroll to buy a bike, Then
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  you know, you look at that route and like I said, I've always, I
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  recommend buying a built race bike.
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  That's somebody's build, you know, and it's worth maybe pay
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  me, you know, do some research on whatever bike it is so it's
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  just a guess about that, you know.
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  So safe I have my six hundred and it's not built and I bring
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  it to the track and then verse built bike, right?
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  Well, you just the difference because you know, there is a
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  difference. You, you cannot race with a
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  street bike. You can do a track day with a
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  street bike and and which there's no competition and you
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  just get time on the track in a group and stuff like that.
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  Yeah, they'll tape up your lights and, you know, a couple
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  of extra things, little white rice necessary, but the track
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  bike is totally different setup, right?
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  Track bike is a different, totally different setup, for
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  sure. And so, you know, like I say,
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  it's if you have the funds to buy a bike by a bike, if you are
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  experienced writer, you know, I always say, start out on a small
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  bike to learn how to ride, right?
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  To learn how to race, it will go to track days, you know, a ninja
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  400, Katie m390, you know, that type of thing, if you're going
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  to raise or even do a track Day on, Especially if you're a new
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  Rider because there's a lot of body position and break-in and
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  lines and stuff like that that you have to learn and it's just
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  better. I started out on a sv650.
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  That's that's a fairly good bike, but in hindsight, I wish I
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  would have started out on the 400 and actually erase a KTM 390
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  now, because and I was racing a 600, you know, and so now I'm in
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  the last year or so I'm racing a small bike to accept,
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  essentially fix all the things, you know.
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  No, that's hamper me from being faster, on on, on our six.
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  So I, you know, so if you if you if you find a small bike that's
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  the way to go. But if you want to start out on
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  a 600, some people do some people start out.
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  I want thousands. I wouldn't recommend it.
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  I wouldn't recommend to 600 either but some people do it so
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  if you can buy a bike great if not you can rent one, right?
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  Oh yeah. Say that the friends I have this
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  started out one. 1,000. We're still trying to get them
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  to the track, you know, they didn't feel too comfortable,
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  right? Because it's yellow.
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  Oh, actually, I started out on the 400 actually went to the
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  penguin track school, right? So, and that makes, and that
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  made all the world difference because you couldn't, you can,
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  you don't have to worry about the power of the bike, you can
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  kind of, you just focus on your body positions, you know, you're
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  lying, you're breaking and and and, and And get that all out on
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  the control. Because honestly, your first
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  time out on the track for me, you know, my first time out on
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  the track was, I was like, what am I doing out here?
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  Looking around, like, it, over my shoulder, like, everyone's
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  gonna cut me off and so it's a little intimidating at first and
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  you don't want to have to be able to control the power of
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  1000 or 600, you know, it's different than on the streets.
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  It's easy to go on the street at as You know, top or whatever
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  gear you want to be at and honest in a straight line.
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  And there's one thing you're not going to be the fastest out on
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  the track even though you think he had the fastest out of your
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  group on the street? Yeah, there's 14 15 year-old is
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  that's fascinating, all of us that see it, you know, order,
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  you know, older. Yeah.
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  And they're on smaller bikes. You know, you just got to go out
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  there, you're going to be in the going to be in a categorized
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  group. So you're not going to be out
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  there with experts, when your brand new exactly you know
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  they'll make sure you take care of, you know, there's A lot of
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  support Corner Marshalls every corner.
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  You know, it's medical staff there and everything.
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  So great. You know?
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  And that's the thing. It is very safe, you know,
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  there's definitely Corner workers and and I like itj
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  saying the medical staff and stuff like that.
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  So you know, get your bike, you know, figure out you got to
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  figure out how you going to transport your bike.
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  You got to have a gas container for gas because most attracts
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  don't have a gas pump. Most actually have a gas pump.
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  You still need a gas container to, you know, have gas readily
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  available. All right.
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  The gas pump in it's not like a gas station so exactly.
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  If they don't have it, you got to have.
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  Yeah, it means that you're going to need straps for your bike.
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  If you don't attract day, you don't need to Iowa.
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  Well, if you're running a street bike you don't need to I warmers
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  if you are running a race bike which race tires, you got any
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  taiwan's to heat the bike up? You'll need, you know, Jack you
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  want to stands for the bike to take the bike off the ground so
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  that I won't miss. Can be on you know the track
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  might need a generator. Yeah, depend on track.
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  You might need a Narrator. Fortunately we don't have to
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  bring one right we're at. But right we're very fortunate
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  for that in in New Hampshire but there's a lot of tracks that you
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  needed to do, you know, the outlets a limited and is first
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  come first serve or first Reserve?
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  So, you know what I mean? So you got to plan ahead.
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  If you can get a generator, a lot of people tend to jump with
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  the 1800 or a small generator, but if you think about food, if
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  you're going to cook all those type of things, you know you
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  know your cooler that type of And how you going to cook, how
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  much electricity you're going to burn.
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  And and so it may make sense to get a bigger generator just to
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  just to have more power than less power at the track.
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  You know, you might need a canopy because it's going to
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  rain or the sun, you know? There's the, you know, so the
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  whole lot of the trip, it's a whole lot.
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  Can you do it without a canopy? Can you do it without a
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  degenerate? Yeah, depending on the track,
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  you might be Away without a generator.
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  As long as you have power, if it's just a track day, then you
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  can probably get away without power because you can just run
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  your street tires on your street bike and, and all that.
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  And that's probably the cheapest way.
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  But if you decide to go to track route, you know find yourself a
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  race bike, that's already build. You know, whoever selling the
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  property selling the stands, they may even be selling the
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  trailer because she got to transport it.
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  Right. At least with your street, by
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  you can put your gear on and a backpack and go to the track and
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  race and then right bike back home.
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  But a race bike. You got to take tow it.
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  And for me and I believe you as well, you know, you can rent a
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  U-Haul open trailer for like fifteen dollars a day depending
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  where you are in the country and that, you know.
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  So but your car may need to tow hitch because I had to put a tow
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  hitch on my Audi when I started to be able to tow and again
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  again cost, right? That's that's you know you're at
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  you got 45 Grand and you still haven't gotten on the track yet
• 20:46
  and you get on. They even like yeah this better
• 20:49
  be for me but you try to make it worth it anyway and and it does
• 20:54
  help you in the long run. How was she was a better driver
• 20:57
  well for sure better Riders. Sure.
• 20:59
  You know, should I take it to the car?
• 21:01
  Yes. Yeah it definitely does.
• 21:05
  And you know, I've been doing this now for almost 10 years and
• 21:09
  and you're going on your third for third year, fourth year
• 21:11
  2020, I started. So you going on your third year,
• 21:14
  so he's going on his third year of racing and and have have yet
• 21:17
  to do a track day, right? Right.
• 21:20
  Yeah, pretty crazy. When I talk to people, they like
• 21:28
  this, the only only track you've written that and it's just
• 21:32
  strictly, you know, we could do like a practice day where it's
• 21:37
  like, you know, like a track day but you might actually do the
• 21:41
  races, you know? But yeah, this is the only only
• 21:45
  track only, right? Yeah, that's interesting.
• 21:53
  Yeah, for sure. And you know, it is worth it,
• 21:58
  you know what I mean? And it's a cost and but I think
• 22:02
  for most people, when they, you know, if they can afford to do
• 22:06
  it and and the lifestyle you're on it.
• 22:09
  So, you know, so you know, getting to the track and and you
• 22:14
  know your first day It's it's something you have never seen
• 22:20
  before so you know, you just you just got to go in there with an
• 22:24
  open mind and ask questions and people will help you.
• 22:28
  And and you know and that's the beautiful part about it because
• 22:31
  it's a very cool community and and if you don't know something
• 22:35
  or somebody see, if you need help and like TJ was saying
• 22:38
  earlier, it's nice if you can go with someone but at the same
• 22:41
  time, if you went by yourself, you know, you'll get help.
• 22:45
  You know people who helped you out and And and so, you know,
• 22:49
  that's the part, that's pretty cool.
• 22:51
  Everyone's on the same level, no one wants to see anyone failed.
• 22:55
  Exactly. Or you know, look like they're
• 22:57
  struggling. You exactly.
• 22:59
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 23:00
  And and and that's, and that's not even getting on a track.
• 23:03
  And so when you get on a track, Whatever you think it is, it's
• 23:10
  going to, it's going to be more, you know, whatever you think it
• 23:13
  is, whatever you think it is is going to be more if you're a fan
• 23:16
  of, you know, right in and and imagining, you know, being on a
• 23:21
  track and imagine, you know, gasps gear, you know, brake gas
• 23:26
  gear, break gasket, you know, me and and hidden corners and and
• 23:30
  leaning over and getting your machine.
• 23:34
  Yeah, you know, whatever, whatever you do, Don.
• 23:36
  The streets and you thought, yo, this is so dope.
• 23:39
  Oh yeah. It's a gazillion times more like
• 23:43
  again almost to the red line and to be able to do that and and
• 23:52
  and do it in the safest way. Are you going to fall?
• 23:55
  Yes. I mean that you you're gonna
• 23:58
  fall. So it just embrace it.
• 24:01
  They want to bring that part up. Yeah.
• 24:02
  But you know it'll happen. Yeah.
• 24:04
  You're gonna fall like rain. Like going Fallen as part of
• 24:09
  going fast. Yes, that's just the way it is
• 24:11
  because you're trying to test the limits of yourself and
• 24:15
  understand the limits of the bike.
• 24:17
  So all this gear is very important.
• 24:19
  So you gotta pick the right gear, make sure you safe out
• 24:21
  there, right? Like I said, I went to the
• 24:24
  penguin track school and I started out on the 400 and I did
• 24:29
  crash on the 400. I did a little side and I was, I
• 24:35
  was fine. Right - fine but I didn't know
• 24:38
  what I did wrong and talk to a lot of people and they were just
• 24:42
  like your tires are cold so you know it's just another right and
• 24:46
  experience but you will go down. Yeah.
• 24:48
  And so about you just you get up and keep going.
• 24:52
  I mean I you know what I mean. That's that's it.
• 24:55
  At the end of the day, it's like, you know, it's like
• 24:57
  skateboarding, it's like riding a BMX, you know, I'm saying?
• 25:00
  It's like walking, I mean, he'll we fall down, we don't stay
• 25:02
  down, you get back up and keep walking.
• 25:06
  It's no different. So, you know, and yeah, there's
• 25:09
  some bad Falls for sure. But usually, they're not usually
• 25:13
  your you get up and, you know, I've think I've fallen 67 times,
• 25:19
  maybe eight, you know, I mean and you get up and, and, you
• 25:23
  know, give us something you have to mend, then you go, man did if
• 25:26
  it's just, you know, you know, I learned expert.
• 25:30
  It's always a learning experience because you learn,
• 25:34
  you know, eventually Been out of beginning, but eventually would
• 25:37
  help or just do time, you learn what you did wrong.
• 25:41
  Yeah. You know, you learn what he did
• 25:44
  wrong and then when you get out there again, you little shaken
• 25:46
  up. Yep, for sure.
• 25:48
  I got a little experience that I had even though it's Loft, same
• 25:51
  time, we but, you know, little more experience now.
• 25:53
  And I crashed this past season and one of my friends that was
• 25:59
  behind me, saw the whole thing and ever since that crash he's
• 26:03
  been following me and he just mentioned how my writing is
• 26:07
  gone. And I get noticed because of
• 26:08
  that crash like I've Been a little slower, right?
• 26:12
  Right. Because you, because you don't,
• 26:13
  it's it's it's, it's all mental. It's all mental, you know,
• 26:20
  almost most bikes from At 400 ninja, maybe in the 300 can get
• 26:29
  within, you know, five seconds of of the lap record of the
• 26:35
  track record, right? And and so the bikes can do it.
• 26:39
  It's the rider that has to get themselves to believe that they
• 26:44
  can do it. You know what I mean?
• 26:45
  And at the end of the day it's a sport where you competing
• 26:49
  against other people but it's like golf or tennis wear a lot
• 26:53
  of its Mental, you got to talk yourself on the ledge, you got
• 26:56
  talking stuff off the ledge, you know, to get the best out of
• 27:00
  yourself and and the limits of the lack of experience you're
• 27:04
  going to fall. Even the top writers, in MotoGP
• 27:08
  Falls, it's it's part of writing and you know, you will push your
• 27:15
  own self long as you got the right gear, you know, you'll
• 27:18
  feel comfortable but then again you just ride to your limit.
• 27:21
  Yeah, there's coaches. There it is.
• 27:26
  There's you know there's New Riders who's also have never
• 27:29
  been on the tree. Exactly.
• 27:30
  As well. When you start, right?
• 27:32
  So when you look around you see it and you just you soak it all
• 27:37
  in and you'll develop a bond with those guys.
• 27:39
  Yep. And girls it well as I have and
• 27:43
  as I improved my friends just out there and we're all on the
• 27:47
  track together and it makes it even better because now, I know
• 27:51
  they're writing styles and Even more safe and we all want to go
• 27:56
  to work and we push, but not like we're winning, right 100K.
• 28:01
  When that own contracts. Yeah, exactly.
• 28:03
  Exactly. And, and that's the biggest
• 28:05
  part, it's all for fun. And, you know, we talked about
• 28:09
  these numbers, right? And, yes, you could invest, you
• 28:13
  know, two grand, 3 Grand in gear, you can invest in the
• 28:18
  trailer, you can vent sit in the vehicle.
• 28:21
  You can invest in a bike and you're at, you know, Depending
• 28:24
  on who you are, where you are, you could be at 10 15 grand or
• 28:27
  you could be at 60 Grand up, right?
• 28:30
  And you can go out there and you can fling your bike down the
• 28:33
  road. It could be your fault.
• 28:36
  It could be somebody else's fault.
• 28:38
  It could be mother nature or just mechanical and you go
• 28:44
  repair the bike, your P, your self and you try.
• 28:47
  Go do it again. Yeah, that's that's the that's
• 28:50
  how it should work but you know it's you never want to fall.
• 28:56
  That's the goal. That's the it's the goal is you
• 29:00
  ain't got insurance or someone hit.
• 29:02
  You can't you can't be like your old man.
• 29:03
  You owe me for this part, right? Yeah that let's let's talk about
• 29:06
  that a little bit you when you sign your name at a track I
• 29:12
  don't care if it's a race but track day.
• 29:16
  So so if you love your bike in the fine prints, Whatever
• 29:20
  happened to your machine, you cannot go after anybody at the
• 29:26
  track anybody. So if somebody runs over your
• 29:31
  bike purposely or on purpose you can't go after them.
• 29:36
  Once you sign your name to that piece of paper.
• 29:38
  So it's it's just the way it is and you might, you have to be
• 29:44
  willing to check your bike down the road.
• 29:48
  You can go slow but you can still fall, you know what I
• 29:53
  mean? So it that's that's that's part
• 29:55
  of it. You know.
• 29:56
  It's a very expensive Sport and and I'm just very expensive
• 30:01
  sport, you know, I mean, and you can ride for you.
• 30:03
  I've been riding since 2013, I've had Four crashes.
• 30:13
  In well over 200 races. And so most people don't crash
• 30:23
  often but it happened as, you know what I mean?
• 30:27
  So I'm not sitting here saying, you gotta crash every weekend
• 30:29
  but if you're pushing the limits and if you only way to learn is
• 30:32
  by crashing, then that's how you got to learn.
• 30:36
  If you can learn through, you know, watching videos and
• 30:39
  talking to people and watching the races and and and Absorbing
• 30:43
  it all then because it's all about your reaction time and and
• 30:47
  and sometimes you have nothing to do with it.
• 30:48
  I had two crashes where somebody ran into me, somebody ran to
• 30:52
  somebody else and put that person in front of me like
• 30:55
  that's stuff you, it does. Nothing you can do about it and
• 30:58
  and and that happens to writers and you know what I mean?
• 31:01
  That's that's part. That's part of it.
• 31:04
  Yeah we can we can say that for another topic because that's
• 31:07
  that's called damages. Yeah, it is when you want to
• 31:10
  continue. If you, when you just got there,
• 31:13
  And something happens, right? Yeah, and that's the part of it.
• 31:16
  So, you know, at the, you know, that's definitely will come in
• 31:21
  more details of just getting bikes together and how you get
• 31:24
  back out there and that mentality.
• 31:27
  And for every Rider is a little different.
• 31:28
  Some people go out there and crash and never show back.
• 31:31
  It's never come back, you know, other people go out there and
• 31:34
  crash and come back. It is, you do get butterflies
• 31:39
  out there and not gonna lie. I mean, it's not like the street
• 31:42
  where you got you Low line separating road yet much wider
• 31:45
  right? Track right there is a line to
• 31:48
  follow, right mate. Yeah, you don't even have to
• 31:50
  crash Sometimes. Some people just go out there
• 31:52
  and ride and don't come back, right?
• 31:55
  So it's not for everyone. But I think the more prepared
• 31:58
  you are and an understanding that a lot of different things
• 32:03
  can happen. So when you get out there, if
• 32:05
  something happens, it shouldn't deter you because it's you know,
• 32:11
  when you get it right. It's the best thing in the
• 32:14
  world. What he said, addiction is real.
• 32:19
  But the good thing is nine times out of ten, you will figure it
• 32:24
  out and get it. Right.
• 32:25
  Correct. And he won't be the ones that
• 32:28
  won't show back up. Exactly exactly.
• 32:31
  But if you, I will say, if you have a friend of five that go to
• 32:35
  a track day, I think one's going to show back up, maybe two,
• 32:42
  maybe two. Maybe too.
• 32:45
  Because, you know, it's a commitment.
• 32:47
  And was that, was that before you say that was that was that
• 32:52
  an example? You know, I'm just saying I've
• 33:01
  been at it long enough and I've seen, you know, the faces change
• 33:07
  my crew and I he, I know, I know, I know but I've seen other
• 33:12
  Crews And go, you know, saying and and and that's why I say
• 33:17
  that like it's not for everyone like anything else, you know
• 33:20
  make anything else. It's not for everyone, you know,
• 33:24
  but it's worth trying because anything in life.
• 33:28
  I think, you know that you want to do is we're trying as long as
• 33:33
  the legal, right? I gotta say that but, you know,
• 33:36
  I mean, I think it's worth trying at least once to see if
• 33:38
  you actually like it and enjoy it and want to do, maybe not
• 33:40
  even once because you probably have to use one thing like You
• 33:43
  have to learn the thing, you have to learn the craft because
• 33:47
  the learning process for some people may suck and for me, it
• 33:51
  sucks, you know, I'm saying and so it's like you can't really do
• 33:54
  it once if you want to do, you know, if you want to do a flip
• 33:57
  or whatever, you're not going to the first time you can almost
• 33:59
  break your neck. You know I'm saying but it's
• 34:02
  doing it over and over and over until you get it.
• 34:04
  Right? And that's this thing it's like
• 34:06
  you know if you just accept that, you know it's going to
• 34:09
  take you. Forever to be a really good
• 34:14
  motorcycle rider because you always trying to get better and
• 34:16
  better better even the top right, as the trying to get
• 34:19
  better and better, it like that and it's not just motorcycle,
• 34:21
  right? It's also this life.
• 34:24
  So as long as you go with that and you get to a point where
• 34:27
  you're like, okay, I know my body position, I know break in,
• 34:30
  I know, you know, Corner speed. I understand all these things,
• 34:34
  then you can say and you can go out there and ride and compete.
• 34:39
  Oh yeah, you got you got to get the basics down before you even
• 34:42
  think about fun. Think about fun.
• 34:44
  And yeah, it is actually fun in the basics down for some people
• 34:49
  for other people. I see, I've seen people flip
• 34:50
  bikes over school, like I mentioned before, but I did
• 35:01
  improve every weekend. It wasn't like every time I went
• 35:06
  out there, right? Proved by like, Overall, during
• 35:09
  the over the weekend was over. Every time I went, I improved on
• 35:12
  something whether it was time or always keep my feet on the pegs
• 35:18
  correctly and when I finally dragged me out excited and then
• 35:21
  I was trying to drag the knee the same Corner every time and
• 35:25
  you know and you know the pictures that they send out also
• 35:29
  helping like I gotta write down more and you know you get a lot
• 35:33
  of feedback Duffy back. Yeah.
• 35:36
  So I thought I will say it's If you're going to go, I would say
• 35:40
  do it track School. If you can for the first time
• 35:45
  and then do a track day to try to do practice what you learned
• 35:51
  in the school, because that's going to teach, that's going to
• 35:54
  make sure you don't have bad habits.
• 35:56
  If you go out into a track day and pick up bad habits and I got
• 36:00
  to learn how to undo it. So for mean 2018, I had a bad
• 36:05
  accident and, you know, I jacked up my hand and and you know, the
• 36:11
  following year I went back to racing But my hand wasn't 100%
• 36:15
  And I changed my body position to compensate for that.
• 36:20
  By the time, when my hand became 100% my body position was all
• 36:23
  jacked up, and it took me, you know, almost Six months to fix
• 36:32
  my body position again and and you can learn it on the street
• 36:35
  but to really get your body position down, you got to get
• 36:38
  track time. Yeah, pretty much it, you know.
• 36:41
  And and so you know, I say all that to say is like yeah, if you
• 36:44
  learn the right way, you know me, you'll save yourself.
• 36:48
  The time of trying to change bad habits and more see times
• 36:52
  better. They always say that and I do
• 36:54
  understand it after being on the track for three years, just ran
• 36:58
  as much as possible. Is most of us just muscle memory
• 37:02
  right now. That's that's all you really
• 37:04
  want and then just become second nature.
• 37:06
  You don't have to worry about body positions and break Marcus.
• 37:10
  You just all Focus. Swear you want to get to, but
• 37:14
  no, you gotta start out on school at least.
• 37:18
  And I'll track day, like you said or if the school is to
• 37:24
  racing, you can still do that, right?
• 37:26
  But as long as you, you know, have a guidance when you start
• 37:30
  out, There. Yeah, I think so.
• 37:34
  And you know and you know yeah if you can find a coach, you
• 37:39
  know, I'll say that part. But yeah I think just getting
• 37:42
  out and doing it is is just worried that, you know, like TJ
• 37:47
  just said is it's it's it's an experience and you know, we're
• 37:52
  not trying to sell it but, you know, I we're trying to just
• 37:56
  say, you know, learn it the right way to first time.
• 38:01
  And and it makes it easier. Do your research when it comes
• 38:05
  to buying gear, do your research when it comes to buying bikes.
• 38:09
  So let's say I'm going to a track day this weekend.
• 38:13
  Thursday, I got my helmet. I got my underarms a suit, my
• 38:19
  airbag suit my gloves. Mmm.
• 38:21
  So I'm ready to go. Yep, I'm renting a bike.
• 38:24
  Yep, I don't have my, you know, I have a generator.
• 38:28
  You know, I got all the tools I need.
• 38:30
  So I get to the track, you know? So what we do from there, no, we
• 38:36
  gotta find a, you gotta find out where you go to sign in.
• 38:39
  Yep, go sign in. You ask them where you can pit,
• 38:43
  you know, Park. Your stuff is essentially just
• 38:46
  to get a little map of the area Exact Track map right now.
• 38:49
  And in most tracks, I'll check all tracks.
• 38:52
  Have a website and have the track layout on the on the
• 38:56
  website where you can do all the stuff you need to do.
• 38:59
  So honestly, We if you print it out or just look at it and have
• 39:03
  that information, you can you'll have you won't be green as they
• 39:06
  say, you know? I mean you'll have you'll know
• 39:09
  how to get to you know, what you need to do, but your pet, you
• 39:12
  unpack, you figure out what the times to, you know, go through
• 39:15
  registration go through tech tech as where, you know, they
• 39:18
  check your bike to make sure your bike is safe to get on the
• 39:22
  track. Make sure your bike is complying
• 39:24
  with the rules of whatever you're trying to do.
• 39:28
  Make sure you have food. Lots of water Gatorade.
• 39:32
  You need some essential tools as well.
• 39:34
  I can't just show up without any tools, right?
• 39:36
  Need some tools to take care, take, you know, take your body,
• 39:39
  your body parts off the bike or fixed fix it or just it, you
• 39:44
  know, just the handlebars or whatever the case may, be your
• 39:46
  brake lever. Clutch, lever, or your yeah, I
• 39:50
  yeah, I would say change the oil to your bike before you go to
• 39:53
  the track because you're going to be beating on the engine.
• 39:56
  So put some fresh. Oil in it, you know what I mean?
• 39:58
  If you haven't changed your brake fluid in a long time, if
• 40:01
  you are a street Rider, change your brake fluid, how it always
• 40:05
  say, make sure your bike got steal.
• 40:07
  My, you know, if you got a sports car or bike your brake
• 40:12
  lines, better be steel braided. So Street or not consistency is
• 40:19
  is the best thing for muscle memory, consistency.
• 40:23
  So brake line, steel braided Break or brake fluid.
• 40:29
  You know what I mean? And and and you know something
• 40:32
  that you can inflate your ties with or deflate your tires test,
• 40:35
  your tire pressure tires. Also have to be, I think what
• 40:38
  they said, 70% of 65%. Yeah, 65% something like that.
• 40:42
  If the street tires track values, if you got tracked eyes
• 40:45
  on your bike, you already know what it is.
• 40:47
  And if you're buying a bike that has tracked eyes on it, buy some
• 40:51
  new rubbers for it. You mean, if you want to go deal
• 40:55
  T, if you just don't track. They on it, you don't have to
• 40:57
  keep it with Slicks or something like that or even with Tire
• 40:59
  warmers if you know you want to do track days like that for real
• 41:03
  for real, you can keep the tires on it, but if not go d.o.t., you
• 41:07
  don't want to show to attracting.
• 41:08
  First time with some mediocre tires, do not hit and all and
• 41:13
  all the giri rice don't make sense.
• 41:15
  Yeah, yeah. I will also say this try to be
• 41:19
  in some type of shape, you know? They mean that's the main like a
• 41:24
  lot of people get tired quick. Yeah, every turn is pretty much
• 41:29
  a squat. Yeah, Gemma from side to side.
• 41:31
  Once you learn how to write, you know, how to write how to ride.
• 41:36
  But you will be sore after the first time, the first time, the
• 41:40
  first sessions, but it, yeah, if you watching this, listen to
• 41:43
  this though, go ride a bicycle, a lot go, workout sit-ups
• 41:47
  push-ups, you have to go crazy, but if you can do sit-ups
• 41:50
  push-ups often and and work out like you're playing basketball
• 41:56
  or football, All, or you going to go play tennis on a regular
• 41:59
  basis. It is a sport and you know, I
• 42:02
  sat in the class and and and you know, I asked, you know, it's
• 42:07
  like you know what happens when you get tired And the answer was
• 42:13
  work out more, that's it because if you get fit at the, you know,
• 42:19
  when I first got out there like my arms are so fatigued.
• 42:23
  When I hit the brakes or break is only from break, my arms
• 42:27
  wasn't strong enough to hold me. So I would fall onto, I fell
• 42:31
  onto the tank because my arms were that week, I, I know it's
• 42:36
  like after a couple of races like laps x 6 or something,
• 42:41
  coming down the street. Like when I, let go of the
• 42:44
  throttle, I was just like it was so hard to grab the brake.
• 42:46
  Yeah. Oh, so hard.
• 42:47
  So hard. And I'm just, like, I can't have
• 42:49
  that happen. No, I can't squeeze the brake.
• 42:52
  Yeah. After, you know, going almost
• 42:54
  130 like, no, no, just put myself in a yes guy situation.
• 42:59
  So, work out the offseason workout.
• 43:02
  Do the exercises work on your reaction, do exercises, that
• 43:05
  works on reaction time. You know, you don't have to
• 43:08
  build muscles because you have to be flexible.
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  Right? Lot of yoga.
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  And a lot of leg exercises because you ride with your legs,
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  right? You die, you know, they're going
• 43:18
  to tell you when you're, when you're on the bike you can your
• 43:23
  arms should be just limp right? And you can you just doing the
• 43:26
  controller's? You shouldn't really be stiff.
• 43:29
  And I had to learn how to relax on a bike ride in because I
• 43:33
  wrote around stiff all the time, and if you, if you do this
• 43:36
  clinch, you know, three, four, five minutes, you're done use
• 43:40
  too much energy. It's all about, Even energy is
• 43:43
  correct and bar input yet on the bike is very important for us.
• 43:48
  Another riding position, exactly.
• 43:50
  But if you put too much input on the handlebars, they will tell
• 43:56
  you you'd be on the floor. Yeah.
• 43:58
  So it's really your course, a lot of sit-ups, a lot of
• 44:01
  bicycling or cycling or squats so lateral squats and and that
• 44:05
  type of thing because you're turning with your legs, you're
• 44:09
  breaking with your legs, you know, you Legs are very
• 44:12
  involved. Your arms are just there for the
• 44:15
  controller's, squeeze the brake clutch gas, right?
• 44:19
  And not be a machine. Like that was always intrigued.
• 44:23
  You know, before I got on the tracked it is like how all these
• 44:27
  guys do it, you know, so watching the, you know, the good
• 44:30
  ones, do certain things and on the street, like how they
• 44:34
  downshift twice at a certain area?
• 44:37
  Like well, I gotta try that. Yeah.
• 44:39
  Or when Italy, in this certain way on this corner.
• 44:42
  I'm like, I got to try that. Right when I get out there, I'm
• 44:44
  just like, whoa. Exactly.
• 44:46
  And you know, I try to get myself to that level and
• 44:49
  brightest, you know, you make a good point, like, go watch other
• 44:53
  Riders like you watch and see what people are faster than you
• 44:57
  and how they're doing it. And we're doing it and you may
• 44:59
  not understand the why? And and and a lot of these
• 45:03
  Riders you can go up to and just talk to.
• 45:04
  So if you want to understand the why they're doing it but it is
• 45:08
  very good to go watch Riders because that's the That you
• 45:12
  learn a lot. Yeah it's just watching where
• 45:17
  they break so you got you got to set yourself up for, you know,
• 45:22
  for each turn and watching where they down, shift up shift, where
• 45:28
  they where they put the head down, certain breaking markers,
• 45:32
  you can go to different Corners, it's good to also follow these
• 45:37
  Riders. Yeah, you know, just a touch
• 45:40
  limit so you can improve each time.
• 45:43
  Yes, I'm gonna wrap up the show and saying, you know, there's a
• 45:47
  lot of information out there and do the research and you know,
• 45:52
  don't be afraid to ask questions or reach out to different, you
• 45:55
  know, writing groups and forms with the Facebook or just, you
• 45:58
  know, just typing in your search bar and try to get as much
• 46:01
  information as a lot of videos on YouTube that you can watch
• 46:05
  about, obviously everything in the world.
• 46:07
  So there's a lot of good on most motorcycle riding and racing and
• 46:09
  body positions and just getting to the track and And that type
• 46:13
  of thing. So you know the best thing
• 46:16
  though was that. So now if they still confused on
• 46:19
  how to get to the track they can access you can they can watch
• 46:22
  it, be favored fast. Yeah you know it's very they can
• 46:26
  send as email. Yeah.
• 46:27
  Ask questions, you know, give you the right answers.
• 46:31
  If you can't find anyone your that's right.
• 46:33
  I should correct. This be forever cool at gmail,
• 46:36
  you definitely can get that get there.
• 46:38
  Also on Instagram and everywhere, you know, Just put
• 46:44
  it in the search bar and it will help you and and that's kind of
• 46:46
  the goal is we are episodes coming out where we're going to
• 46:49
  be talking about bike. Bills bike bells for us.
• 46:53
  So we can go race and and and just how to season is going and
• 46:58
  how many races are we gonna be racing next year and and all
• 47:01
  that fun stuff all the pros and cons?
• 47:05
  I think the only con is the cost.
• 47:11
  Yeah. And this steps to this because I
• 47:13
  got, you know, we, you know, out we can keep going on but it
• 47:16
  really is like there's, there's there's there's levels and, you
• 47:20
  know, and that's part of the process.
• 47:23
  And so that's what we're going to try to do with with these,
• 47:26
  with these show be forever. Cool.
• 47:28
  And also, two wheels on coffee with TJ where we're going to
• 47:34
  meet up and do some really cool things and and continue to build
• 47:39
  the community that we have been part of been blessed.
• 47:42
  To be a part of, right? That's right.
• 47:44
  So I am peace. Peace out, guys.