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Patriots Unfiltered 9/21: Reasons to be Optimistic, Jets Preview, NFL Week 3 Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at chi Let's Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and we're one day closer to the New Jersey Jets. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, where they play.
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  Speaker 4: Is still the Metals called the Metal Lands.
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  Speaker 7: I still call it that, yes, yeah, but is it
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  Speaker 7: technically the middle Lance No.
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  Speaker 1: Well I think yeah, the technical area, the area technically arena.
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  Speaker 1: It's East Rutherford is where the stadium is.
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  Speaker 5: He's still stuck at for the Middle.
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  Speaker 8: Of Jersey Jets.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you stuck at that? And you're right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if they called us the Boston Patriots, it'd.
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  Speaker 4: Be wrong, right, you'd be the Foxboro Patriot.
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  Speaker 1: Right. That's why we went with New England. Take the
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  Speaker 1: whole region.
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  Speaker 4: We were.
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  Speaker 5: Billy Sullivan was pouting, that's why we're in the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: He was mad.
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  Speaker 4: I was just on a zoom call with Pat Sullivan.
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  Speaker 1: What are you?
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  Speaker 4: I was real that random.
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  Speaker 5: I spoke to Pat Sullivan once, like the first year
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  Speaker 5: that I worked with fred We were doing I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: use the Patriot's been around. We were doing fortieth anniversary story.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, okay, gets the Freddy stamp.
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  Speaker 1: Uh so what do we got? We got Tyreek Hill
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  Speaker 1: calling our offense simple.
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  Speaker 4: But you're mixing up your chatter from Tyreek Hill.
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  Speaker 5: Tyreek Hill actually was incredibly complimentary of Christian He was No,
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  Speaker 5: I know he was.
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  Speaker 1: He was, And I'm not.
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  Speaker 5: Sure you know because you just said that he.
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  Speaker 3: Who called us tomato sauce.
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  Speaker 1: He called us, but in a nice way. He said
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  Speaker 1: what they do, they do really well.
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  Speaker 3: I thought what he said was completely false.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Belichick speak pregame like I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I think he was talking out of his but.
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  Speaker 5: They're really good I think he was trying to be complimentary,
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  Speaker 5: but didn't have anything to compliment. To be honest with you,
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  Speaker 5: here is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: And I think he came up with something to say
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  Speaker 3: that was but it's easy on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but wait a minute, you don't think he came
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  Speaker 1: up with that. That's what his his room was saying.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but saying that the Patriots offense is
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  Speaker 3: easy on the quarterback could not be further from the truth.
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  Speaker 1: I know. But my point is, Susgard, it didn't come
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  Speaker 1: up with that out of thin air. That's what he
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  Speaker 1: is being said.
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  Speaker 3: I think they were possibly. I just think that he
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  Speaker 3: was trying. They asked him what do you think of
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots offense. He didn't want to say what Paul
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  Speaker 3: just said and say something completely negative, so he just
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  Speaker 3: started talking out of his butt and he came up
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  Speaker 3: with what he said.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's the reason why he's saying it's
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  Speaker 5: easy for a quarterback is because all the throws happened
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  Speaker 5: inside of ten yards. So yeah, that's what he's talking about.
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  Speaker 8: This is exact quote. They don't really have a complex offense.
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  Speaker 8: It's pretty simple for the quarterback to get the gap scheme.
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  Speaker 8: Everything is really simple, but they excel at it. What
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  Speaker 8: they try to do is to get other people to
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  Speaker 8: mess up. They just do everything right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, everything.
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  Speaker 1: So I think he tried to COMPLI that's what I say.
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  Speaker 5: I think he was trying to be complimentary but didn't
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  Speaker 5: really have anything to compliment.
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  Speaker 1: But when he's talk about gap scheme and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: come up with that, that's what he was told by
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  Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 5: Did anybody tell you that what the offenses are when
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  Speaker 5: you break it down.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you that this, the Bill O'Brien offense,
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  Speaker 3: is not easy on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: I understand it. I know I totally agree with Evan
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  Speaker 5: on that. And we've heard the quarterbacks talk about they
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  Speaker 5: put a lot on the quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but if you're quarterback watching the defense and you
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  Speaker 7: see what throws they make and where they.
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  Speaker 4: Threw, that's why I think you saying that.
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  Speaker 7: If you're the quarterback getting up at the line trying
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  Speaker 7: to figure out what coverage they're in and having to
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  Speaker 7: make all the premium calls and everything.
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  Speaker 5: How many completions did he have in the last game,
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  Speaker 5: and six of them traveled more than ten yards? Like
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  Speaker 5: that's what Sauce Garden is talking about. That's fair, that's
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  Speaker 5: why he's.
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  Speaker 4: Saying it's easy.
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  Speaker 5: But I I can go back countless like Vinny Testaverdi,
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  Speaker 5: Doug Flutie, Brian Hoyer, Like they've had a million backup
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks that have come through here and talked about how
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  Speaker 5: much they put on the quarterback and how difficult the
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  Speaker 5: system is. So I know that Evan's right, they don't.
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  Speaker 5: It's not an easy system on the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And is that because Tom Brady, you know, had
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  Speaker 1: was so good at it. They just kept adding it,
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  Speaker 1: adding and adding and putting more and more on that position.
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  Speaker 4: That sounds about right, Yeah, it sounds about right.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know how complicated it was, and
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  Speaker 7: you know the early two thousands when they were first
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  Speaker 7: kind of getting going, but twenty years of building and
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  Speaker 7: you know, evolving the offense into I mean, I think
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  Speaker 7: that's kind of a big thing about like what we
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  Speaker 7: don't really talk about, you know, especially with Bill being
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  Speaker 7: a defensive coaches, just the offensive explosion that has happened
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  Speaker 7: over twenty years and you know that he's been here
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  Speaker 7: through that, So I think that that kind of highlights
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  Speaker 7: the gap so to speak of you know what, what
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  Speaker 7: where maybe he's fallen behind a little bit. Is that
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  Speaker 7: it's also the league, the league in general has just
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  Speaker 7: gone full boar offense, you know, and it's there's not
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  Speaker 7: really a place for defensive coaches anymore. It's this is
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  Speaker 7: not part of the game anymore as it once was.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe when he started.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I killed the room with that one.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's that's why I figured more things he
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  Speaker 1: was going to tu to Tyreek Hill, what Tyreek Hill
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  Speaker 1: was talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Gonzo got some links and cam Roun and I don't
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't care. I kill us to say
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  Speaker 4: about anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just if I just watched the film,
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  Speaker 1: you can see if it's nice dollars, you know. Sticking
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  Speaker 1: with him, I think he had a good game.
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  Speaker 5: No, I definitely.
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  Speaker 4: I think everybody. I mean, I think so everybody had
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  Speaker 4: a good game.
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  Speaker 5: But so does everybody else. You make it sound like
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  Speaker 5: you were arguing with someone some people trying to get
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  Speaker 5: you going. It's because I'm impartial.
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  Speaker 7: One more interesting little tidbit I thought when we were
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  Speaker 7: in the locker room yesterday, Juju spoke again, which I
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  Speaker 7: give Juju credit for speaking like he spoke last week,
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  Speaker 7: he's been in the cross. Here's a lot of times
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  Speaker 7: those guys hide, but he's both this weekend. Last week
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  Speaker 7: kind of you know, gone in there and spoke, but
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  Speaker 7: he sort of spoke of being frustrated about how hard
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  Speaker 7: they work and how you know, it just hasn't paid
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  Speaker 7: off yet.
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  Speaker 4: And I get what he was.
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  Speaker 7: Kind of getting that, but I also couldn't help but think, like,
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  Speaker 7: I really still.
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  Speaker 4: Believe that they pushed these guys.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I don't want to say more than any
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  Speaker 7: other NFL team, but I would say they pushed these
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  Speaker 7: guys as much as any NFL team does. And at
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  Speaker 7: what point when you don't get the results that you're
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  Speaker 7: looking for, do you start to kind of not buying
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  Speaker 7: in anymore?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 7: And at what point is that frustration going to boil
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  Speaker 7: over and say, you know what, we're all busting our
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  Speaker 7: butts and we're not getting so I'm not I'm not
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  Speaker 7: buying in anymore to this, you know, like that, It
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  Speaker 7: just he's literally said, you know, we're getting frustrated because
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  Speaker 7: we're putting in so much work and we haven't seen.
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  Speaker 4: The results yet.
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  Speaker 7: I hope they see the results this weekend. But you know,
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  Speaker 7: what results are satisfying to him, you know, what results
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  Speaker 7: are going to make them say, hey, all this work
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  Speaker 7: that I'm doing here that you know, maybe I don't know,
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  Speaker 7: maybe it was more, maybe it was less than Kansas
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  Speaker 7: City whatever, but you know, they're all busting their butts,
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  Speaker 7: and if it doesn't translate at some point, when do
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  Speaker 7: they kind of say, you know what, I'm done, I'm
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  Speaker 7: done putting in all this extra work.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and then maybe he's hearing other people say, well,
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  Speaker 1: we just need to work harder, and he's.
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  Speaker 9: Thinking there are people working what other people and that's yeah, no,
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  Speaker 9: and then that's Mac and you know, but it's like
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  Speaker 9: I imagine being one of those players and saying, I
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  Speaker 9: can't work any harder.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here tween hours a day, Like what else do
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  Speaker 4: I have to do to.
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  Speaker 7: You know, all of a sudden we can move the ball,
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  Speaker 7: score points and not shoot ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this week, at least for one week,
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  Speaker 1: we get a reprieve, we get a win.
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  Speaker 7: You know, So what about the weather, though, I think
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  Speaker 7: that's just about you know, that's but that's you know,
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  Speaker 7: it's like one of those games where it's.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna kind of just what, all right, it's going to rain?
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  Speaker 4: What like the one it win too? I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was I saw.
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  Speaker 5: This was like I saw like ten miles an hour.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that this was I thought this was like
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  Speaker 3: getting a storm when you're dealing with Zach Wilson, like
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  Speaker 3: give your jets, like any sort of conditions that are going.
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  Speaker 5: To make it Sack Wilson throwing the ball a lot.
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  Speaker 5: If it's it's if it's seventy five and Sonny, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's like I just if it's a storm and it's
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  Speaker 5: going to prevent you from throwing the ball, then that's
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  Speaker 5: different that.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think it was just a drizzle. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was a storm.
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  Speaker 1: Cloud it rain likely in the morning, then partly sunny
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  Speaker 1: with a chance of rain in the afternoon, like it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be.
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  Speaker 5: Like opening day, the whole day, opening day, But it
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  Speaker 5: was twenty five twenty.
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  Speaker 1: That's just what my A not always correct.
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  Speaker 5: It's not I'm not blaming you, I'm Blamingolan. Say it
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  Speaker 5: who you want to put this?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I just always think it's funny because it's like
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  Speaker 7: I just think if it is extreme weather, it's it's
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  Speaker 7: the great Leveler and all of a sudden you have
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  Speaker 7: what happened in Buffalo a couple of years, you know,
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  Speaker 7: just but it also is a coin.
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  Speaker 5: But I think those are different kind of games when
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  Speaker 5: the weather impacts it. I don't think just because it's
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  Speaker 5: going to rain in the middle of September, it's going
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  Speaker 5: to be some of his best days in especially on
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  Speaker 5: a turf field where you know you're not dealing with
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  Speaker 5: mud or anything like that. It's not going to slow
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  Speaker 5: the track.
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  Speaker 3: That mud game with Corey Dylon, Oh yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: mud all over his jersey and he's running for two
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  Speaker 3: hundred yards no socks.
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  Speaker 5: And I were just talking about one of those games
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  Speaker 5: against Baltimore back in four before the stadium went to
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  Speaker 5: turf and it was just a mud bowl. I think
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: Jarvis Green had like a fumble return at the end
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  Speaker 5: of the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyle Bowler, Kyle Bowler, Yeah, Kyle, Yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: I remember pop Water. We lost the kid in a
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  Speaker 1: puddle just he just he never found it again.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, looking like fell in a puddle, just never came
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  Speaker 7: thought it was a sinkhole.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Us ever keep track of how many times Tomorrow just
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: puts her hands like over her face and shakes her
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  Speaker 5: head with us.
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  Speaker 4: We had we had a class. When she's just out,
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  Speaker 4: there's a great tomorrow moment.
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  Speaker 7: Yesterday we were talking about like red flags in uh
• 11:13
  Speaker 7: somebody you're maybe dating, and somebody.
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  Speaker 4: Brought up astrology and then and then some already was like,
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: well what are you and they're like, oh, I'm a tourist,
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: and like interesting, like that's tamara, what are you? Yeah?
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: Oh Gemini interesting?
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Or the other one is that explains a lot Gemini chechnically.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody's coming, everybody's coming at me.
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  Speaker 4: Bro It was good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think if if it is really
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: bad weather, I think it favors the Jets, don't you
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  Speaker 1: a little bit?
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  Speaker 5: If it's really bad and you can't throw the ball, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the team that doesn't really want to throw it is
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: probably gonna benefit either team really want to throw it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we we should Zach, it's not you
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  Speaker 1: leave the league pass I don't think that's on purpose.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't think it is. Either you fall down
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  Speaker 5: two scores every game, You're going to lead the league
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  Speaker 5: in passing games.
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  Speaker 7: Do you think it's a problem, Like I find myself
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  Speaker 7: like kind of getting flustered a little bit that We've
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  Speaker 7: had two games across the league, and everyone's overreacting to
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  Speaker 7: those two games.
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  Speaker 4: And how those two games for every team.
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  Speaker 5: That's the very NFL.
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  Speaker 4: I try to pump the brakes a little bit, but.
• 12:21
  Speaker 5: Everything's eighteen eighteen sagas. Yeah, right, that's what That's what
• 12:25
  Speaker 5: makes the NFL so great.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: It is it's one game a week. You got a
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: week between each game and the build up, the post mortem,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: the build up to the next game. It's that's what
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: makes it great.
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  Speaker 5: I think, and everything you said last week is going
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: to be completely irrelevant this week, and you just change
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: this team is they can score, Mike, they can score.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Could be the Chicago Bears where things are bad and
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: then they get worse.
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  Speaker 3: But this team has been the same story. It's just like,
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  Speaker 3: that's why I don't feel like it's overreacting, because it's
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: we've seen this is the same script for two three
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  Speaker 3: years now.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't mean that directly. It's like just the page.
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  Speaker 7: It's just every it's like, well, they're seventeenth in the
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  Speaker 7: league right now, and that obviously.
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  Speaker 4: Is like, well, yeah, well, what's the sample size? Like
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  Speaker 4: six plays? Like six plays right now are defining your
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  Speaker 4: whole take.
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  Speaker 5: No, I totally get that, but I also think that
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: we do it for everybody, and that's I'm with Fred.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of like that.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's why the NFL is king is because
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  Speaker 5: you have these build ups every week to the event,
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  Speaker 5: as opposed to like one sixty two, you know, or
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: eighty plus and the other two sports. I think the
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: playoffs are equally compelling, probably in all the sports, but
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: the NFL just having that one game, you know, when
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: you move on, lose, you're out, as opposed to the four.
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  Speaker 5: I just think it lent itself to that drama and
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  Speaker 5: I like it. You know, they have the segments on
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  Speaker 5: these national shows and it's overreaction Monday, Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like they know what they're doing. It's not even like
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  Speaker 5: they you know, they hide.
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  Speaker 3: It, but it's like if you're overreacting. Like a good example,
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  Speaker 3: the Bengals are also oh in two reacting to the
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Bengals being oh into and reacting to the Patriots being
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: oh and to or is not apples to apples, right.
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  Speaker 3: The Bengals have all the talent in the world to
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  Speaker 3: pull out of being oh into even oh and three.
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  Speaker 3: I would say they could win ten straight games and
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: they'll be right where they they belong at the end
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: of the season. And that's that's not what's going on here.
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the one caveat there would be Burrow as long
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: as he's okay.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: It looks like he's dealing with a nice calf gun
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: on his calf.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: Yes, But but you know, one of the segments I
• 14:30
  Speaker 5: saw earlier this week had the oh and two teams,
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: and there's a handful of teams like the Patriots that
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: are in that and they like, you know, oh and
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: two team that you feel the best about. And it
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: was like the Chargers, the Bengals. You know, it's the
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: teams that you don't expect to stay oh into you know,
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: with the you know, well, we won't be like Arizona. Arizona.
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: You know, no one was like, you know what, they're
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: like a player and they could have won the game.
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: Obviously they blew a big lead, but no one's.
• 14:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but you still back to what your preseason expectations were,
• 15:02
  Speaker 7: and you know that Cincinnati, maybe San Diego.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: This is one of two things that are irking me
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: right now about about oh God, It's happens too often,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: like you're overreacting to a team that is five hundred
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: for four years, you know, really grinds my keys exactly,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: thank you.
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: Who are we talking about? Just in general, like the Patriots?
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like you know, you're like settled down,
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: you're overreacting, am I though, like that We've been in
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: the same spot for four years, Like this isn't anything new.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: The other thing that is really grinding my gears is
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: that the Patriots are turning the ball over because of
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: self inflicted wounds. I don't feel that way. I think
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: their turnovers are because they don't have good enough players
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: that are forcing the issue. I feel like Mac Jones
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: throwing an interception to Xavion Howard is because Xavion Howard
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: is a better cornerback than Devonte Parker is a wide receiver.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think that was a four unforced error.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I think I could argue that it was an ill
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: advised throw.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: But I don't think it was unforced.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: No, but ill advised is an unforced error.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: But ill advised that is because they're trying to make
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: a play, Like like they got to make some plays
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: down the field.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: The field, but I get that. But like there's I
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: love not being but there's good decisions and bad decisions.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: But teams that are are not good make more bad
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: decisions than teams that are good because the teams that
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: are good don't need to press the issue.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: And you could also say that teams that aren't good
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: there's less good decisions to be had.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: That's my point.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, But I.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Still say that Max pick six, what's that one?
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I don't know?
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: That was a first down? Right?
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: The Parker throw?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So like what was he forcing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: To make any sort of scores late in the third quarter?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Point? Yeah, I still say it was ill advised.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: But anyway, so Tomorrio Douglass, the situation Tomrio Douglas cutting
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: back and then trying to run, like seeing the end
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: zone and his eyes get wide and he thinks he's
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: gonna house it from forty yards out in the NFL
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: is not an unforced error to me?
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: That is, he's not fast enough to do that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: That one I agre.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: No, that one, I agree with you?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Or Max picked six? To me in the Eagles game
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: was a guy that was juiced up for Week one
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: and rushed a decision. It was a rush decision that
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: didn't need to be rushed. And I think that all
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: these types of things are what are what? Teams that
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: are not don't have ten million big plays available to them,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: like a team like the Dolphins. The Dolphins don't necessarily
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: need to press the issue every single time they have
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: the ball to try to make a play and try
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: to push the ball down the field.
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: So if they had t Higgins Pop Douglas wouldn't have fumbled, if.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: They had other players that were not like you're you're
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: trying to like force the issue. Like we saw this
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: in Week one with Marcus Jones. Marcus Jones is back
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: there fielding punts and there's three guys coming down on
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: him and he's not fair catching the ball because he's
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: trying to make a play because he knows I'm like
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the only game breaker on this team.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: So if I get it, I.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Don't know about that. I just think it was just
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a bad decision. I don't think. I don't think his
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: decision in his mind is like this game's on me,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I need to do.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you it was, but see guarantee it.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Those are things that you can't prove. And I get
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: you a point, Freddy, But from Evan's perspective, what he's
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: saying is it's a bad decision born out of desperation.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: No, I hear you.
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: Like if he like he did fumble on one of those,
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: it went out of bounds, yep. Like if that goes
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: down as a turnover, if that stays in and they
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: turn it over, everybody's gonna say it's another unforced error.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: No, it's not like if if his coaches are saying, hey,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: we need a big run back here, you know, I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: don't think they're telling him that.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I don't think that it's not about the coaches. I
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: think it's a mentality about the players. And I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: the same thing happened last year.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I think that's scary. I mean they're already desperate. Press
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: that's that's.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: That's pretty what you're saying.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I think it's a typical to you semantic argument.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying it, and I'm here for it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not a real thing. You know.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I I agree with you in the Demario Douglas one,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But on the on the Mac Jones one, I think
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that was a unforced.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Ere I think the bigger thing about turnovers, you didn't
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: need to do that, which is kind of you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: kind of parallel to what you guys are talking about.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: And I, like I said, I think you guys are
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: both right in a certain way about whether or not
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: they're forced because they're they're pressing, or they're just making
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: bad decisions. But I look at it as like, so
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: I think Tua did everything that Mac did on his interception.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: He made a bad choice, a bad throw, bad everything,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: and they pick it off, Dolphins defense comes out and
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: stops them three and out. They get the ball back
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: and the first play touchdown. Like that's what you do
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: if you're a good team, Like you can make a
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: mistake and it's not going to derail the whole game.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: And I feel like the Patriots have made a handful
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: of mistakes that have completely put them behind the eight
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: ball because they can't recover from them. And the to
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Mario Douglas fumble is the best example. We talked about
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: this yesterday and then they ended up going whatever it was,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: eighty three yards for a touchdown after recovering a fumble.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, at some point though, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: like to Evans's point, if they're owing three, right, then
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you can make the point that every mistake they make
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: now from that is because they're pressing, because they're owing
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: three and oh my god, you know, like you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you can't let them off the hook like that.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: I think individually my whole point that's why I think
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: both of you guys are right.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's necessarily that I think pressing
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: is maybe like going a little too far. I just
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: think my my whole point is everybody is like, oh,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: just stop turning the ball over and you'll start winning games.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that simple for this team. And
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I think that that's like everybody is just chalking up
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: the first two weeks of the season of well, if
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: you didn't even the head coach who said it after
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: the game on Sunday, if you just stop turning the
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: ball over and you stop shooting yourselves in the foot
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: and you start this is what this is what it
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: looks like when you're not a very good team, Like
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you turn the ball over, you make penalties, you give
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: up sacks.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Good turn the ball over too. But the Paull's point
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: day over.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Not as much as bad teams. No, but every year
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: when you look at teams that lose the turnover margin
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: and the teams that are bad are than ones that
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: lose it by TA in general.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: That is that is that is the great, the great
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: predictor of success. It's the turno.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Right now, the Patriots are minus two, right you know? Yep?
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: So I also, as we've talked about previously, I think
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: is a little deceiving because what is actually a turnover
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: isn't really getting credited as one. I think turning it
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: over and downs in your own territory is a turnover. Yeah,
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: like the Eagles did an opening day, but it doesn't
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: count as one, so that Patriots are still minus two,
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Blockfield goal pages take over
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: in Miami territory, yep, doesn't count as a turnover.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Sounds like you got a new step bruin, right, Yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: it could be the it's the same.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: It's the same thing with the defensive points, you know,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: and the only points they actually count is when the
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: guy houses it, whereas if he runs it back to
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: the two and they go in, no, that's offensive touchdown.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Like that's pretty frustrating. I know the DVOA takes into
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: consideration stuff.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Someone just some of them are like, you really want
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: to see what the real points are?
• 22:29
  Speaker 9: Point four points against doesn't do it shouldn't count for
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: the offensive iterks me.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: That's like when you look up, like who are the
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: offenses that lead the league in points? Well, those that
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: points per game counts, defensive touchdowns, counts special team's returns.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: And yet it's used for offensive right, Like can we
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: just have.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Can I just have offensive points? Like raw up offensive point?
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Because first in twenty twenty one, for example, the Patriots
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: were a top ten scoring offense. They wouldn't have been
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: if you took at all the defensive touchdowns.
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: That's actually fair because if you look at the cowboys
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: forty point win, if you subtract their two defensive touchdowns.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Right, No, I think absolutely when you're looking at offensive stats,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't include what the defense does, you know, So
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: that's I don't know why they don't do that.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: No, Like I said, there are some much more some
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: of those metrics. Some of those metrics do take into
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: account the short fields and the direct points that are scored,
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: and you know some of those are a little bit
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: more accurate. Yeah, I mean indicators.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Listen, if you know, if the offense takes over at
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the ten and they score, give them the points they
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: scored the other team had a chance, but a pick
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: six shouldn't those six points shouldn't go to the offense.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: You know, would you have like a minimum drive distance of.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Fun I would have different categories, Yeah, I would. I
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: would have you know, drives of fifty yards or greater
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: for points as opposed.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: To you know, those could be weighted more.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's exactly how I would do it if
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: I was, you know, into that sort of thing. I
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: don't really care, so I'm not just I could care little,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: I know, you know.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: A whole segment, you know, like, yeah, this is what
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: they say the points are, but when we go to
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: the Parlo index, actually, well.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: And I'll give you an example of like right.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Now, the O seven Patriots weren't that good.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: They tell you why, But that's that was sixty yard
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: touchdown bombs. Those are probably count pretty I would say,
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: you think the seven offense carried the defense.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You can't count any of Randy mossl Rob Gronkowski's touchdowns
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: because they were just better than everybody.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: By dv o A, the O seven Patriots are the
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: greatest team of all time. Yeah, I mean I didn't
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: need dv A to tell me that, But like you
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: know better than the eighty five Bears, better than you know.
• 24:40
  Speaker 10: Speaking of the Bears, said, do I know what people,
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: I've seen a lot of people being like it's bad,
• 24:48
  Speaker 10: like and I but I've never seen anyone actually say
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: what it what it was.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: There's like anybody supposedly Peanut Tillman now works for the FBI, right.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: That that that didn't happen. None of that's true. No, no, no,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: he doesn't work for the he's not an informant.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: He didn't punch the ball out off the field because departed.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Okay, anyway, they raided Wait a minute, they didn't raid
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: house Hall.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: That wasn't They didn't.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: They didn't raid his house. That's not true.
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: Apparently apparently none of that like according to was it Ian.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, rap sheet said like had like three bullet points
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: of like the original report Pena. Tillman is not involved
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: it whatsoever, So that part of it was false. Hallas
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Hall was not raided. That part was false. And I
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: don't I don't know about his house, but like he's
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: under investigation for something, Okay, but but I don't I
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: don't think that it's.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Like, well, he tendered his resignation, yes, and there's a
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: text that got out where he said I royally screwed up.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the Bears handled it internally by tendering
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: his resignation, and so the league isn't involved with any
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: sort of investigation either. Those are sort of the three
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: points that that rap sheet.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, someone in I think it was Quotney Cronin I
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: think was the name that I saw yesterday in Chicago
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: immediately shut down the Hallas Hall part.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: The other I don't really buy any of the other
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: people trying to say what is true. I think that
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: there's something going on with Alan Williams.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I mean, you just don't resign like that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: for no reason.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Like, the only thing that I thought was shot down
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: yesterday was the Hallis Hall part. And but nobody where
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: did everyone get that from? Does he not work for
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: the FBI? He does not. He does not even work
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: for the FBA, because that was that was definitely making
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: the round yester that he works for the FBI. No,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: he doesn't work for the f Peanut Tillman, they said
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: that Peanut Tillman was the whistleblower.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and apparently he has nothing to do with
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: this whatsoever.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, not buying that that I don't buy that. Well,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: that doesn't come out of thin air.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: That's what the new reporting is on it at least.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: But I'm not really interested in the Peanut Tillman part.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: I'm interested in.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: What he did.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: What he did? Yeah, that's why is nobody writing it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Well, there was speculation, but what so we can't do that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I'd rather not.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't even know what the speculation.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: I tried to find it yesterday.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: Is it Olivia Benson episode?
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Oh you asking?
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I have no clue what that is?
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Mad a little slow in.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: The drug order said.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Like one of the seventeen line orders.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then there is also in Chicago. Is not
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the best producer in the Justin Fields had to backtrack
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: on something he said in one of his press conferences.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: But the issues he's having and he said it's coaching.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: It's close to being over.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And he got back to the locker and called the
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: media too and say, hey, I didn't want that to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: get twisted. I didn't mean that the coaching was bad.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he meant he's thinking too much about what
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: he's being coached. Yeah, but terrible, Look is it is
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: it still terrible?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Is the truth. Last game they won was here. That
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: was the last in Chicago.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they lost twelve in a row.
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: I believe we have a weather update by the way, Yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: come on, okay, now it's I'm on soon.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: You're not far off. Good meteor If that's if that
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: actually happens, then.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: According to the National Weather Service, there you go, there
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: is a tropical cyclone warning.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Okay, so that's different game the East Coast.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: That's going to affect Washington, Buffalo, Baltimore, Indie and the
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Jets and the Patriots.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: So a tropical cyclone cycle is that? I've never heard
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: that Troup cyclone, the bomb cyclone.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I remember that one Bombo genesis, Bombo genesis for the snow.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Try to make a T shirt off that tropical cyclone,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: not three And I did a no Bombo Genesis off
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: t shirt.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Thirty five mile an hour, not the ones.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Thirty five mile hour that passes THELO index. Yes, that impact,
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: that impacts the way the teams want to playoff. Yes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: it'll be.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: That would be just our luck if that happened. Pop
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Douglas gets in the open, he's running down the field
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the cyclone just takes him up,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: we never see him again.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: So the Pop Douglas thing off to Oz, I was
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: really glad that Ramandri Stevenson chimed.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: In, Oh god, that killed me. That killed me.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what I wrote, right, That's exactly what I
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: wrote Tuesday.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I was I missed a lot of times.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: I was like, thank you for Montre Stevens.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: He just came out and said it what what what
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: he said?
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I hope he doesn't hope he doesn't have to
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: miss a bunch of games like I did.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Oh I did see Yeah, yeah.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I thought that was I don't you know, like some
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: of these things like we talk about him, they happen
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: and you assume, and but just to hear a player
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: come out and actually.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: What's the word that Fred uses when little things like
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: this like festers fishers?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Is that what that's that's what you used yesterday?
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's that crazy. I mean, thanks captain. Obviously
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: the big game, this one. If they lose this game,
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: I think some of that stuff, but that's I think
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: you started it with the show Mike about Juju.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I do.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Think and like I said, I don't think there was
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: anything wrong with what Max said about you know, we
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: have to do Like basically, he's saying, we all think
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: we're working hard enough, but world too, so it's not
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: it's not enough. And I can also understand her from
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: a player's perspective saying, well, I'm doing everything I can
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: and this guy is like, what do you want to do?
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: You know, what do you want? And I'm not just
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: talking about Juju. I'm talking about the rest of the team.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: So that kind of stuff can be fracturing if you
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: don't get some success.
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, do you guys ever remember anything in the
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: twenty years And I know the losses were few and
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: far between, and certainly losing streaks were even fewer and
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: far between you, but you ever remember an instance of
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: Belichick kind of pulling back off the hammer a little
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: bit and lightening up things, or you know, taking some
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: proactive steps to say, you know what, we're all so
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: just like grinding on it right now, we need to
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: take a step back.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but like a lot of times,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: not just Belichick but also Parcels, when they play bad,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you think, oh, this is going to be a rough
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: press conference, and that's when he would lighten up, and
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: then sometimes when they kick butt, he'd come out with
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the you know, the reverse psychology.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Definitely would do that, And I would say I don't
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: know when enough about whether he pulled back on the throttle,
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: but I do remember there was one year they weren't
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: playing particularly well. I want to say it was between
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: it's probably like five oh six, somewhere in that area,
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: and he was like telling the players, like, when you
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: make a good play, get up and sell them.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: You should be he.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: Should be happy when you make a good play.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: That was in the nine. Yeah, he was highlighting the
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: win from eight against Denver and showing, you know, was
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: it the no, it was, yeah, I was the win.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: But that was he was contrasting with that, somebody makes
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: a play, nobody seems to care, right, And he was.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Telling them, you know, you should be excited, get up
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: and show some excitement. So let that's kind of like
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: a lighter kind of bill like you would think that,
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: you know, old school. He doesn't, you know, just act
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: like you've done it before, not that kind of nonsense. Yeah,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: but he went the other way. And I think Fred's
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: definitely right about Parcels especially, but Belichick too, just when
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: you think it's like, oh my god, this is going.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: To be awful, and it's yeah, it's not quite as awful.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: No, he recognize that it's never great, but it wasn't
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: quite as bad as you thought it was going to be.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: But I think the point I was trying to make
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: when I brought up the weather initially was just that
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: the Patriots need to win so bad, and what if
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: it just happens to unfold like the Bills game did
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: a couple of years ago, and that's what the Jets do.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: The Jets run the ball and they have, you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: a couple of big plays, and you know, it's just
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: it's a game that was completely impacted by the weather.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: They're owing three though, no excuses, but you're really just
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: a game you can't really judge, like that Buffalo one
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: where you know, nobody's throwing that out as an example anymore.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: It's just it's a tough spot. It's a tough spot
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: to be in a must win in Dallas the next one, right,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: but to be in a must win game and you
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: gotta what was it a cyclone?
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Tropical tropical cyclone, tropical cyclone, sorry.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: Just like a hurricane at that point.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: Like tropical cyclone. Well, the difference between those would be
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: the winds origin. Okay, but what winds have to be.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Over cyclones over the water? But like, what is a
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: land based cyclone?
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: What is that tornado?
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Why don't they just call it a tornado? I what's
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the difference between a cyclone and a tornado?
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: There's got to be a listener out there, who's a
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: weather man?
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Before I get yelled at, I am totally joking around.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: What is a tropical I know nothing.
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: It's probably gonna be warm, I bet like it'll be
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: kind of you it would be kind of hot out
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: maybe because it's tropical.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: It's tropical.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: What's it going to be like in here? It's not
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: going to impact my ride home?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: That would be a good drink though, you know, cyclone
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: tropical like tropical cyclone like that?
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: You do some pineapple juice drink pineapple juice, guava juice,
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: maybe some rum such a.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Va tropical cyclone mixture duface can get an e bowl.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't understand, no, I wouldn't.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: It sounds like a premium use That tornado is a
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: single event in a tropical storm consists of several dozens
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: of connective storm. Say it again, please, Tornado is like
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: a single event, and a tropical cyclone is comprised of
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: several to dozens of connective storms.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Oh so it's just cyclones everywhere.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Just it's not like Wizard of Oz where one big
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: tornado just tears through the It's a twister.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of different ones. Exactly, We're not gonna throw.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: It's not because of you. It's really not because of you.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: It's the weather.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Well, as Bill said earlier in the week, you know
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: we've won games Will throwing three passes, We've won them
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: all throwing fifty. He said that.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Oh god, that's like when he references the Super Bowl,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the second one against the Rams, and like somebody asked
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: him like a couple of years ago about like the
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: game changing and offense, and well, we won a super
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Bowl thirteen to three. Well what about the AFC Championship game?
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Bill?
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Did you win that one? Someone actually tweeted that out.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: I forget who are I'd blame them. It was Chad
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: Finn about how it was the lowest scoring super Bowl.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, so the actual game, that's what you're
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: gonna like, that wasn't the lowest scoring team that won
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl, right like, there was the lowest scoring
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: super Bowl, like one game. No one says you can't
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: win a game.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Right like once, Mike you mentioned the like what Belichick
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: like pulling back or whatever, and it's not necessarily pulling back.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: But I was listening to one of Paul's shows the
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: other day and Ted Johnson was on, and the one
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: team started oh and two also, and so did the
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: ninety six team. They both started ohing two and Ted
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Johnson mentioned that after the I don't know, Paul probably
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: remembers who they played in one when they lost the second.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Game, Ted Ted got this wrong, Actually he misremembered it.
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Fre Fred will remember it. So he buried the ball.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Bill took off all out there had had
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: some poor equipment guy probably dig a giant physically did
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: it and and physically buried the ball and said we're
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: moving you know, we're moving on.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: It's with Jimmy Hoffa.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: We go look for it out there somewhere with well
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I lost in the construction.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: And then Matt Man grows, Dad, that was that was great?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: His they was ninety four shut keep shoveling the shovel.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: So they had this shovel in the room. Yeah, dig in?
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: When when do you When are you guys gonna have enough?
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: When are you gonna fight back? When are you gonna
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: dig in? And they brought a shovel out and that
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: was like that seven game winning streak that sent him
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: to the playoffs in ninety four. They had a shovel
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: behind the kind of like TJ Sledgehammer.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love TJ Sledgehammer. Yeah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: And then parcels what he would do before a game,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you know, trap games before in the morning, he had
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: somebody hanging mouse traps all over the locker room.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: You're gonna fall for dangerous, You're gonna you're gonna fall
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: into the trap.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Didn't get hurt.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: That has like high level, multi billion dollar business.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: And this is what we're trying to like set amount.
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: So Ted Johnson was funny. I heard the same clip
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: that that Evan talked about. The only thing is he
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: did that Bill did that after the fourth game to
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: drop them to one and three. Yeah, they went on
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: to Brady came in, they won the game against the Colts,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: and then they went out to They went down to
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: Miami and got absolutely obliterated like they often did down
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: in Miami, and they came back up and they buried
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: the ball, like we're just washing our hands.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: Of that whole game metaphor and Ted and.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Ted Johnson was funny. He's like, I don't know, He's like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: I didn't really make much sense because but then we
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: were all like, shows you how dumb we all are.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: We're all like, yeah, yeah, all right, new start, Like
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: here we go.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Word waiting for a football tree to grow?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Would that's still work today? Like I was still like, guys.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Oh god, this is hokey, Like what are we doing?
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: I think if you did it today, someone would be
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: like recording it and make fun of you on social media.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Remember Shackleton's Adventure, Yeah, yeah, that was another motivational thing.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Watched and watched and watched the documentary about how they
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: survived this ordeal.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that story. That's a good one page
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: turn I read. I read the book.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: One other correction corrected about the weather does work.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: For the FBI. He does work for the FBI.
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Now I'm completely all in that they're just covering.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Thank you a shoke for for pointing that out. Yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: it does work for the FBI, but didn't on this.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't buying that. There's a rat.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, eight five five past five hundred is the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: ACE ticket hotline web radio at pages dot com. We're
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: gonna do picks a little later at on the halftime
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: show or the show within his show. What are we
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: calling it?
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Halftime show?
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think PU halftime show.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, the PU halftime show. They're gonna be giving away
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: T shirts. He's gone, Yeah, they're gonna give away.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: We did enough of you.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I think we have Evan probably get Paul's food. Yeah,
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: probably fetching it.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: So he's got it. He needs a forklift.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: This is what I get for buying them lunch.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna bury your sandwich out.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: I get for buying them.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I like that I made to Maryland. All right, let's
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: get to the phones. We'll go to Patty and Agawa
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: on what's up Patty? Everyone?
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Hey Thursday.
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: So just a couple of quick questions because I know
• 38:57
  Speaker 11: you got picked, and let's just stay on a scale
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: of one to ten. How important does everyone think it
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: is to not only establish the run but run effectively
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: this game? And can the offensive line pull it off.
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: And my second question is for everyone, do you guys
• 39:16
  Speaker 11: think that Steve Belichick and Jarrott Mayo compared to where
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: they were when they first started in like twenty nineteen,
• 39:23
  Speaker 11: Like how much how much growth have you seen from
• 39:26
  Speaker 11: those two guys's defense of you know, play callers and
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: game planners. And that's all I got. I'll take it
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: off there.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks. That's so the first one. I'd say about
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a six six, five or a six.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it depends a little bit on
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: the weather.
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: I would I would put more importance on not letting
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: the Jets run than making the and then the Patriots running,
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: I would agree, Yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, I would agree with you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: And then growth of Mayo and Steve Belichick.
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: That's an interesting one. I'm going to try not to
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: get off on a tangent here. No, I mean I
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: think that there have been good things. I mean, I
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: think they've been kind of throwing everything at the wall
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: for a few years. I don't really, I mean, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: don't want to say this as a negative that I
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: haven't seen development. I just think they continue to do
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: what they do. The problem for me is just that
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: they can't get over the hump against the good teams
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: and it's like, oh they're defense. It's so multiple and
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: they throw so much at you and you never know
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: exactly well, it doesn't really seem that hard for the
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: good offenses to decipher it. And you know, I think
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: I think Steve had a real good game plan. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: thought they did real good job against the Eagles, you know,
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: as for how they they executed in that game. But
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: I'm just I'm like everybody, I'm waiting for these game
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: plans in this you know, amiba defense that has a
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: game plan defense to you know, be effective against the
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: good teams finally and close out the good team.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I think in today's NFL they're doing fine, like you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: in terms of like comparing against other defenses and how
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: other defenses do against better offense. Better offenses just have
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the advantage these days. You know, I think they're doing fine, like,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: but like in terms of like you know, what their
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: growth has been. You know, we know that Steve calls
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the plays, but other than that, like I don't know
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: who does what.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: When it comes to the defense, because you judged like in.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Charge of personal groupings, like making sure the right group
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: gets out. But then I also heard that's Covington, you know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: So like I don't really know, like who's who does
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: what other than Steve calls the plays. Maybe you know Evan.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I just I'm not trying to like take a shot
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: at Steven Gerard. But it's all Bill. It's all Bill
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: for game plan, for game plan.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: I think definitely the game plan. I think it's all
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: It's all Bill on defense from top to bottom. I
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: think the game plans are all Bill. I think the
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: stuff that they put in in the off season that's
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: new and different disappointing. Why is it disappointing because.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I would hope that at this point Steve and and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Gerard would have more input.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they don't have input. I and
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: I do think one one thing I'll I'll say is,
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: you know, Gerard talked a lot about how much involved
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: he got into college scouting this offseason compared to other offseasons,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: and how he really enjoyed watching the college game. And
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, some of the things that he
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: said that he enjoyed was watching how college teams defend
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: some of these new age elements, you know, RPOs, spread offenses,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: you know, air raid concepts, and the Patriots so far
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: this year have had some different wrinkles that we haven't
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: necessarily seen against that type of stuff that maybe did
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: come from some of the college scouting and some of
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: the things that they looked at over the summer. So
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I'll give them credit for that, But I think in general,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: the structure of the defense and how they play defense
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: and want to play defense, and the mentality of the
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: defense like that, that all comes from the head coach.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: I like that stuff.
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, like we brought up that
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: Bears game that those are the games too that kind
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: of stick in my crawl a little bit. The games
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: where you just like, what's going on? I mean in
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: a blender that's happened a couple of times. Those are
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: the games that and I mean even with TUA last week,
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: it's just like there's no surprises, like you know.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: What they were going to do. You had all summer
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: to really figure out.
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: You knew they were coming up week two too, So
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: I don't know that those games occasionally where all of
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: a sudden they look lost are are.
• 43:03
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I really didn't.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: We've always said that no matter what the subject, there's someone.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: Where we go, let's go meteorologist.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Uh, this is Matt in southwest Florida. He's a hurricane expert. Nice.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Tropical cyclone is the remnants of a hurricane with winds
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: not high enough to be a tropical storm or hurricane.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: In other words, an average summer day down here and
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: a major weather event.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got one.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: You're natural depending on location and severity. Worst cases, heavy
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: rain and sustained winds for a day or two. And
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: then he gives us a link to track it if
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: we want.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: But if you get heavy rain and sustained winds, it
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: will have an impact on that.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mostly the wind.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really going to be a factor. And you
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: have to kick that fifty yard field goal to make
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: it six y three?
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: Right, but who's but who's kicking here?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: So we'll take a break. I'm gonna give some t
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: shirts away in the halftime show and then we'll be
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  Speaker 14: And we're back with the show within the show, which
• 45:06
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  Speaker 5: I like that too.
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  Speaker 1: I like that a little bit of suggestions, but for now,
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  Speaker 1: it's still.
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  Speaker 14: The show within the show.
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  Speaker 1: Keep I guess so the top staying on.
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  Speaker 3: His nipples.
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  Speaker 14: I've joined by Mike d So and Evan Lazarre. Guys
• 45:28
  Speaker 14: are gonna start with some trivia.
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  Speaker 4: Do not answer it. Oh, I'll just say if I
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: know it or not.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 45:33
  Speaker 14: Question one? Who is who has the longest receiving touchdown
• 45:37
  Speaker 14: in Patriots?
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: Oh?
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: I know that one. Easy, that's easy.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: I know that one.
• 45:41
  Speaker 14: Money number two? Who was the offensive coordinator for the
• 45:44
  Speaker 14: Patriots in.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Two thousand and three?
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: Also use your money.
• 45:49
  Speaker 14: Number three, who was the Patriots owner that had plans
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: to move the team to Saint Louis? All right, yeah,
• 45:55
  Speaker 14: the original plans.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: That's a good one.
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: Send your answers in the web radio at Patriots dot
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• 46:05
  Speaker 14: we're gonna continue off last week's conversation. We might keep
• 46:08
  Speaker 14: doing this regularly throughout the season if I can't find
• 46:10
  Speaker 14: any other fun topics, because it's just fun to talk rookies.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Yep, rookies.
• 46:13
  Speaker 14: Rookie roundup, not just Patriots players, but rookie performances that
• 46:17
  Speaker 14: stood out in Week two.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Do as you want to get kicked off. Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: Well, I just like to say that I like this
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: because you know, Evan and I were at the Combine
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: and we saw all these guys. Everyone was at the
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: Shrine Bowl too, watch plenty of the Senior Bowl, So
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: you know, I think for both of us, we really
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: enjoy the process. And now it's fun, of course watching
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: some of the Patriots rookies, but it's also just, you know,
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: interesting to see some of the guys that you know
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: you might have liked or didn't like, and how they're
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: kind of doing in the league. But I just, I know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: I talked about Jon Robinson last week, and I'm gonna
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: just bring them up again because I just I think
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: they're building something in Atlanta, and I just he's one
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: of those players that I feel like is just really
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: fun to watch and makes you say, hey, this team's
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: on the TV right now, I'm gonna throw them on.
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: And it's not just him, you know, it's Kyle Pitts,
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: it's Drake London. So I just every time I see
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: Atlanta now never had really a reason to put them on,
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: but I feel like when b Jon Robinson's on, it's
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: it's it's it's worth tuning in.
• 47:10
  Speaker 14: For and to go off that also, I know he's
• 47:12
  Speaker 14: not rookie. Desmond Ridder didn't look that bad either, like
• 47:15
  Speaker 14: he was serviceable. Yeah, and he plays all he plays
• 47:18
  Speaker 14: well with Bijon.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: Hey, it's the net neutral quarterback.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Right, I mean as much as they did it by
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: picking in the top ten like three years in a row.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: They got him, Drake London, Kyle Pitts and Bjeon Robinson,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: and you make Desmond Ridder look like a serviceable quarterback.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: No offense to Desmond.
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm gonna go before I let Evan go off
• 47:37
  Speaker 14: off the rails here, dude. I had this guy in
• 47:40
  Speaker 14: our prospect review. Yeah, Marvin Mims junior Mimy, Yeah, he
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: had from Oklahoma. He had one hundred and fifty all
• 47:49
  Speaker 14: purpose yards and really he had me. I just want
• 47:53
  Speaker 14: to make sure the rights that's are kind of crazy.
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: It was a ninety one point four receiving grade as
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: far as PFF two receptions for.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that tells you.
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: Nice drop mic along a sixty with a touchdown. I
• 48:06
  Speaker 14: mean that offense there is like you know, they have
• 48:09
  Speaker 14: some players in Denver. I think they lost receiver to
• 48:14
  Speaker 14: ACL I don't know if I'm completely accurate.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, accord, Uh, Tim Patrick?
• 48:19
  Speaker 14: Ya Patrick? Yeah, And so he kind of just went
• 48:22
  Speaker 14: right in there. Automatic deep threat punt returner, can kind
• 48:25
  Speaker 14: of do everything. So he's the guy who stands out
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: to me from week two.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: That's a good one. Those are two good ones. But
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a Homer and I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: stay right here in Foxborough, and I'm gonna give some
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: flowers to Christian Gonzalez, who had a great We're not
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: gonna do We'll go on to flowers the second Christian Gonzalez, though,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I thought watching the film back, looking at all of
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: his snaps against Tyreek Hill, it was more than just
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: the interception. He had a great game against Tyreek Hill.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: And I don't think that was the plan necessarily going in,
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: was for him to take ty Hill when Marcus Jones
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: was healthy. I think that was probably more the plan.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: And yeah, and then Jalen Wattle maybe was the matchup
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: for Gonzalez, but he ends up moving over to cover
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: the Cheetah. Four catches for forty yards, right, or five
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: for forty something like that for Tyreek Hill against Christian
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Gonzales and he I thought he was great in man coverage.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I thought he played to his leverage. Well, I thought
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: he ran all over the field with Tyreek Hill. And
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: you talk about a guy and the Patriots don't have
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: a ton of this, So it's so refreshing to see it.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Just a pure athlete at six foot two, like a
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: freak athlete that can run with Tyreek Hill, can outjump
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill and still have some size to him as well.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: That's a rare breed and we all knew going into
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: the draft, or I should say after the draft that
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: it was ridiculous that he fell as far as he did.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: And the Patriots are just lucky, that's the only word that's.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: Smart for taking let me add in that I traded down.
• 49:57
  Speaker 14: We've had some not great draft history recently, Like how
• 49:59
  Speaker 14: nice that they have a first round pick that's just
• 50:01
  Speaker 14: plug him right right in there.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: It just is.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: And not to like poo pooh after I just saying
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: their praises for taking Chris chicken Zalez, But it goes
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: to show that when you have a first round pick
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: that's a real hit. It's obvious to everybody watching the
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: games instantly, like that's what a first round pick that
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: you hit on a great player, looks like like not
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: some of these other guys that we've tried to talk
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: ourselves into over the years.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: I got another one. I wanted to tap up Jayden
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: Reid from Luke Packers. A couple of scores, right, a
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: couple of scores.
• 50:32
  Speaker 7: He was one of my favorites coming out this year
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: as a you know, potential pick. I think he went
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: a lot higher than I kind of thought he would.
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: But you know, with Christian Watson out and to be honest,
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: we were in Green Bay, wasn't all that like wow
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: about him. You know, saw him make a couple of plays,
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: but you know, nothing like oh God, why couldn't we
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: have this guy? You know, not necessarily like that. Still,
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's been okay, but I thought
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: he had a nice week, didn't too much the first week,
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: but then, as Evan said, bounce back with a couple
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: of touchdowns there in Green Bay.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: So he starts to chip in a little bit.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I got two.
• 51:02
  Speaker 14: I'm gonna give a shout out to Puka. I'm gonna
• 51:04
  Speaker 14: let Evan talk in the cor album because he's he's
• 51:06
  Speaker 14: been balling out. But the guy who stands out to
• 51:08
  Speaker 14: me before you know, he did the responsible thing and
• 51:11
  Speaker 14: self diagnosed his concussion. Anthony Richardson was balling out. I
• 51:16
  Speaker 14: think he's got to sort out how to protect himself
• 51:18
  Speaker 14: a little bit better. That might just be kind of
• 51:20
  Speaker 14: rookie like, oh, I'm invincible, because he's obviously bigger than
• 51:22
  Speaker 14: everybody in college. But that's not how it is in
• 51:24
  Speaker 14: the league. But he kind of took that game over
• 51:26
  Speaker 14: and it was going pretty one side and until he
• 51:28
  Speaker 14: got subbed out for Gardner with Minshew, so I gotta
• 51:31
  Speaker 14: give a shout out to him. That's gonna be a
• 51:32
  Speaker 14: fun game in Germany.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: By the way.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was great.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I've been really surprised, and in a good way
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: about Anthony Richardson throwing from the pocket and in structure.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I thought he would be a great runner. I thought
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: that they would have, you know, with with Stiken.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: Is that how you say his name?
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I always mess that up. I thought that they would
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: have really good schemes involved with him, you know, like
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: they did with Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia in terms of
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: his legs. But I've been really impressed at how good
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson has thrown the football this early in his career,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: he looks He looks a lot better in that sense
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: than I think a lot of people thought he would.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Definitely.
• 52:07
  Speaker 7: Just one other guy too, I wanted to say, maybe
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: for other reasons, was Rashie Rice, who I kind of
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: didn't really think was all that great, but you know,
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: he's he's kind of coming on a little bit in
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: Kansas City for Patrick Mahomes and probably not all that surprising.
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: You could stick a receiver that you're not all that
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: impressed with and with Patrick Mahomes and and suddenly he
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: looks pretty good. But you know, I just thought he
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: was real stiff and just you know, seem to have
• 52:28
  Speaker 7: trouble to shake shaking guys. But it doesn't look like
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: that is as much of a problem as I thought
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: it would be for Rashi Rice.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Like our guy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: Pooka, huh yeah, Pooka.
• 52:36
  Speaker 14: I mean he's the number one fantasy guy through two games,
• 52:39
  Speaker 14: his twenty five catches for two hundred and sixty six
• 52:42
  Speaker 14: yards on thirty five tard.
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: It is just funny, and I'm not trying to like
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: make a bigger point here about the Patriots, but it
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: is just funny that there always are some star receivers
• 52:49
  Speaker 7: that go later in the draft or even in his case, undrafted.
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: And I don't think it's any way to build a
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: team just in assuming that you're gonna hit on one
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: of those guys. And that's happened for the Patriots in
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: the past, but it does always, you know, just seem
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: to happen. You put so much time and effort into
• 53:02
  Speaker 7: these things and in the draft process, and not just
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: for the amateurs.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: I guess we're professionals though, are we professional draft and
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: we're not really professional draft analysts, you know, I'd say
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: the professionals are the scouts, But look, the scouts are
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: wrong too, like you know, as wrong as like we
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: could be on something doing like our study of it.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: The scouts are you know, have probably you know, I
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: would hope a better hit rate, but it's not like
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: they're like one hundred for one hundred on those things.
• 53:26
  Speaker 14: It's crazy because you gotta get lucky sometimes because the rams,
• 53:28
  Speaker 14: you know, shipped off all those picks and then boom
• 53:30
  Speaker 14: you got Poop and Nakua and then once Cooper top
• 53:33
  Speaker 14: gets it, you're all said, good. But guys, I think
• 53:36
  Speaker 14: we're good for this day. Thank you for joining send
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  Speaker 2: And now great moments in history.
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  Speaker 16: People who have that talent are generally really good.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: You paid numbers.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: I read music?
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: What I read the sheet music?
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: So you read music?
• 54:01
  Speaker 16: Do you think that helps you? Your musical knowledge helps
• 54:03
  Speaker 16: you with your impressions? Because you clearly have a gift
• 54:06
  Speaker 16: for that. Is it something how you can pick up
• 54:07
  Speaker 16: on how everyone's inside?
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: What are you laughing at over there?
• 54:11
  Speaker 17: Well?
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: I thought I did.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I said, do you read music? Yeah? I said, because
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I know you paint by number?
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: I know I caught that.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I ignored him.
• 54:23
  Speaker 16: Fred, do you read music? Because you're good at impressions too,
• 54:27
  Speaker 16: So you have that gift.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I could play the harmonica by year there you go? Yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and by my mouth. Oh but that's another great moment
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  Speaker 1: from all right back here.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: You know, Fred was just a better time when we
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: were just going to the AFC Championship game every year.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: We didn't have any of these real life issues to
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: worry about.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: And we had a butt of all jokes. We did,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: only kidding the best wishes to Eric personally. Halftime show,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: they gave away some T shirt. They had some trivia.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Who was the longest or who has the longest receiving
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: touchdown in Patriots history?
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: I got that.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: I know that Wes Welker one.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Uh, Gavin in North Carolina had that. I think that's
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: a five hundred yard game. Brady Correct, who was the
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator for the Patriots in two thousand and three.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: The same guy that blew us off at the combine.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: True he did, Charleslie Sharlly Wise. Winner is Paul in London,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: who claims he has a two thousand and eight Patriots
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  Speaker 1: PFW and Progress T shirt.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Wow, you guys made those?
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's cool yea. And who was the Patriots
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: owner who had plans to move the team to Saint
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Louis's James James, James Bush or wine. The winner was
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Richard Corby. So good. Gave away some tech. Get rid
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: of that T shirt stock because we need to print
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: more right hoodies, hoodies. Let's get some hoodies a gray, black,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: or white.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: I'd have to check the hoodie database for what the
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  Speaker 4: best record. Probably gray, no offense to our fans.
• 56:08
  Speaker 12: We should get an extra supply of two xls.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Oh sounds like you know something, but guess what seems
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• 56:34
  Speaker 4: So I wish you'd do those, as Dan shaughnessy. I
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: think it'd be a little bit more, a little bit more.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: You got to score big with the Patriots.
• 56:41
  Speaker 18: Go to Bobs, you know, Bob Craft, Bob, Bob's Discount Furniture,
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• 56:57
  Speaker 4: So it's a little mafia in there, steroids.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's all right back here. Eight five five
• 57:08
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  Speaker 1: at pages dot com. Let's go to the phones. We'll
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: go to Matthew in New Mexico. What's up, Matthew. Matthew
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: waits for an hour and then he doesn't met you. Yeah,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: how about John and Louisiana A Hardy, Hardy and Todd
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  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Todd, what's up?
• 57:36
  Speaker 11: I was just curious if there was one thing that
• 57:40
  Speaker 11: could have been changed elevated, let's the one area could
• 57:44
  Speaker 11: have been elevated for the past two games.
• 57:46
  Speaker 15: What would it be?
• 57:47
  Speaker 19: It would have allowed us to possibly.
• 57:49
  Speaker 11: Win those games?
• 57:51
  Speaker 19: And what do you think needs to be elevated going
• 57:54
  Speaker 19: into this game with the Jets.
• 57:55
  Speaker 11: That's all I got.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: I mean offensive tackle very quick.
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I realized with that noise is that
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: like most young kids don't know what that noise is, right,
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: nobody knows what a busy signal is?
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: What you do? What did you grow up with a landline? Yeah?
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: All right? Did you ever did you ever use a
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: phone that was like rotary though?
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: No?
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: All right, there we found the dividing line.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, did think about think about now how
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: tedious that was? You know, I don't even know actually,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: when you had somebody with a lot of nines in there,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know what that's like.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: Phone call this person?
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: You would you know it had all the holes nine,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: you'd have to go all the way here and wait
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: for it to go all the way back where you could.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you asked me, like if you brought one
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: in and said, like, evan, call somebody.
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: On this, I'd be like, I don't know what to do.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: I can't sorry.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, got answering machines, and then then then it's
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: more to push button.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, answering machines. So those were kind of late,
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: like not everybody.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, I remember the answering machine because my grandmother used
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: to leave like twenty minute messages for my mom on
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: the answering machine and then she would play it when
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: we get home and just walk around the doing chores
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: around the house or whatever, and you just hear my
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: nana in the background.
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  Speaker 5: Just funny. That's really, that's really funny, still talking. Your
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: mother would just go about her business and listen to.
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  Speaker 3: The YEP and remind you they talked for like an
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: hour earlier in the day already.
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  Speaker 4: That's I forgot one thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember, like we got an answering machine, probably
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: around the time that we got rid of the wall
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: rotary phone to go to like the TOUCHTNE We got
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: an answering machine, and then pretty soon after that they
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: started doing the answering machine within like the you know,
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: the voicemail within the phone. Yeah, so you didn't have
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: to do that anymore.
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: That was like when Star six nine came out and
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden they had all these little tricks
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: that you could do, like you could call if you
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: got to hang up, you could call people back.
• 59:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which is a good thing. They didn't have that
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: when I were doing some prankin maybe guy, maybe your
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: refrigerator run because.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Minute. But when they when they first came out with
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: that wasn't always this brash. When they first came out
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: with the Home Answering Machine, there was tapes there, actually
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: tapes the sets that you would.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: You've reached the par I actually had one of those
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: in my first apartment because there's just an old answer machine.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to get all the bells and whistles
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: through at and t right, because I, you know, I'm
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: not a budget much like now right, and I did.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: I had one of those little tapes on the answer
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: I like I do.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: I do genuinely mean, it's like I envy growing up
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: in that time because like once I had started, like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: by the fifth grade, cell phones were a thing, like
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: we you know, all these things like really started to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: happen already for me right away, And like I never
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: got to live a life disconnected from a phone or
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: or you know, a computer.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: Or I've never had a memorized numbers like.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Used to like the like get directions.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: I would do like the we got directions because like
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: navigations came out, like maybe when I was in middle school,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: like in car navigations because we didn't.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Have w we were driving. You never had to direction.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: Map quest, print map quest.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I've done that, but I remember before that you had
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: to ask the guy at the gas station.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: I would never I would.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know how we got around and those maps.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you guys got around either. No,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: like just thinking about that, like how did you know where?
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: It's a great question.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: I don't know it is. It is funny when I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: started at the Herald.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: You know, driving in that direction, and then you get
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: close and asked.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: The late eighties through the nineties, and we all we
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: did was cover you know, we covered a million high
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: school sports. So I didn't know where all these high
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: schools were. But there was a huge file, you know,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: on the on the computer that you would just you
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: would log in and then you'd say, I'm going to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: Oliver Eames High School. Search Oliver Raams. It would come
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: up and you print out the directions right to Oliver Raams.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: That's how you you did it. Yeah, I just like.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Think about all the time this For some reason, I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: think about this a lot. How did like how did
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Pete delivery drivers find my house?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: Like how like we would call.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: What is that book called? There's a book filled with maps.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: I'm forgetting It's like it's not the Thomas It's like
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: it's a Thomas guy.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: There's something.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: But when I was a runner and like we had
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: to have that, Like I'm just.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Like when we used to call in before navigation and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: before smartphones and used to say, oh, I live at
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not gonna put my parents address on
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: the air, but like you live at you know whatever
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: and need them and they used to just miraculously find
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: your house. Like that's why there's a delivery zone that
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: you know the area.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Back then the guys that were doing it were from
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: the area. They knew, they knew Like.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: But I think I think I think Evan's right, Like
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: they had to figure out they had to have.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Something there was there was a time where cab drivers
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: were from.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: They just knew where they drive and they knew the roads.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: You know, good time.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: I think they'll call your thing though, is the fear
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: of having to pick up a phone from a number
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: that you got from a girl and call that number
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: cold call. You don't know if her dad or is
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: who's gonna pick up that? Like nervousness, like really going
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: to Like now you just like you either swipe right,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: you send a message, you send a text message?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: Can you tell Mike to uh?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: But that was I mean that's like those are like
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: growing moments that now people don't even have to do
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: because you get a little tech back and forth.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: Numbers like memory, like now you just you meet a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: girl and you're like, you know, can I get you?
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: You know, you just put it right into your phone?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: How many you have it?
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: How many numbers memory? How many you if you lost
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: your phone right now? How many numbers would you know
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: off the top.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Of your head?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: John Cap three eight nine, two six one five, Wade
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: bog Cecil Cooper two six one five. That's how I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: remembered numbers my all sports guys uniforms. That's how I
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: did it I could give you, I mean, I could
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: give you.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: Don't give us your ATM password? All right, my best
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: friend Mark nine five one six.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Next up? Next up is c J and k C.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: What's up? CJJ?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: Hey up guy, Hey c J.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 20: I wanted to ask you for a question about the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 20: game coming up this weekend. Is there you know anything
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 20: that you think we can learn more about what this
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 20: team's identity is going to be from the game this
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 20: week or is it just going to be I don't know,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 20: just another wash.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 21: Up, especially if the defense is up scoring the last Well,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 21: you can play better or a good game, I mean,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 21: I think so.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say that whatever happens on Sunday to me
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: is not sort of a definitive calling for the rest
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: of the year. But you can play better than you've
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: played and at least show that you're capable of playing
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: sort of clean.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Football, clean football exactly, you know, I mean.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: I hope, so, you know, would that be your identity?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: I would say, no, you played three games and you
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: played one clean one, so I don't think that would
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: necessarily establish it as an identity. But you can play
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: better and feel good about it regardless of the opponent.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: I think you can continue to pull elements out to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: that are becoming your identity. Like you know, you're not
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 7: going to have an identity three weeks end of the season.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: But you know, I wrote a little bit about the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: spike in two tight end numbers, you know, like last
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: year like sixteen percent. They're up over you know, close
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 7: to forty percent this year, so.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: You know that's increased. So I mean, I think each
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: game you'll learn a little bit, but I hope you can.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: You know, I don't want to come out of this
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: game being like, yeah, they won, but I mean that's
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: that's the worst exactly.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 15: And that was kind of my point, is that I
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 15: didn't want to.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 17: I didn't want to.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 20: I wanted to have some hope that we can actually
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 20: feel good.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: It just depends on the outcome. You never know, you
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: might have to do it, you know. I mean like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: it was like when they beat the Bills two years
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: ago in the wind storm. It's like, you feel good
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: about the two.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: Jets games last year, Yeah, you'll be happy, Like Fred's right,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: like you don't care. You just need to win. Yeah,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: And I get that, and that's bottom line. But if
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: they beat them the way they beat them the two
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: times last year. You're not gonna feel great. Yeah, you're
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: gonna be happy that they won and you're gonna be
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: one and two that's better than O one three, But
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: you're gonna know the other team handed it to you.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I still feel though, like you just need
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 7: to win. And but it's gonna be hard. It's gonna
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: be hard to just be You're gonna be great. They
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 7: got the win, and you're gonna immediately turn the page
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 7: into Now this is what they have to fix from
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: that game too.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: You know, it's like you got to get the win
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: and check it off. But I don't think it's like, oh,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: we feel.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: Great now everything's turned around. I mean, I don't know
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: that's that's the outcome. It's hard to see that everything
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 7: is now. We're on track. Now it's really gonna happen,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: you know, unless they like hang a fifty burger on them,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 7: which I'm not expecting.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: Even then, I'm not You have to see how it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: all unfolds.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: Mac bombs away every play.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks a j uh. This femail bothers me. Neil and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: new Bruns Red not about cyclones. It's not hard, folks.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: It's a tropical storm, which is weaker version of a
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: hurricane hurricane spin. So yeah, okay, So then why do
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: they call them tropical storms instead of cyclones. I've never
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: heard any weatherman up here refer to a tropical storm
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: as a cyclone. Okay, so it must be a little
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: bit different.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: That's like that guy from the Simpsons, you know, the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: one with the ponytails.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: It's not that hard.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: What's his name? Man?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I get all right, Let's go to Sean and Orlando.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: What's up Sean?
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 15: Okay, thank you, I'd like to Okay. Brady on culture,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 15: Tom Brady said, this is an interview. Said all this
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 15: in an interview with the ESPN in twenty twenty two. The
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 15: coach can have rules, but it's the players who have
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 15: to expect more than the coaches that creates the culture.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 15: If the players expect to be great, then they're going
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 15: to do the things that it takes to be great.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 15: They're going to prepare the right way, they're going to
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 15: compete the right way. They're going to hold each other accountable.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 15: That's what creates the winning culture. So Belichick may have
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 15: set the tone, but it was Brady who drove a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 15: culture that took on his personality that became famous for
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 15: attention to the detail and to the execution, and mag
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 15: Jones was Belichick's one chance to regain that culture, rather
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 15: than cultivate it. He has screwed him at every turn,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 15: first with Patricia and this year with the Lion and
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 15: the receiver problems. And it seems that everybody not named
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 15: Belichick could see the stupidity of all that. But everybody's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 15: overlooking the real problem. Craft has lost his fire. He's
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 15: tolerated four years of mediocrity. The Patriots used to be
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 15: known for letting people go a year too early rather
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 15: than a year too late. They're paying the price for
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 15: not applying that to the GM. Thanks for taking my call,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 15: all right, Sean.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 5: All right, thanks for the call. In all seriousness, I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: don't agree with all of it, but that's a strong call.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I would just I would lump in Willie
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: McGuinness and you know, some of those other guys.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: I think that helped establish the culture.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Like Brady's attention to detail, his drive and practice, you know,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: like practices. He may practices a game in a competitive way.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: But I don't think drive and commitment are problems for
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: mac Jones. I don't know. I think that, well, he's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: saying it. Saying it Bill, Well, he's putting people that.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: This is one of the ones that I sort of
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: take issue with. Yeah, you know, it's all on the coach.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: Like I can tell you, there's many rosters that Brady
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: dealt with that were less than this offensive line and
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: less than this group of receivers, and it didn't fall
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: apart like this. Now, they may not have been championship
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: that year, you know, oh six comes to mind. They
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: may have fallen short that year because they let all
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: the receivers go and they didn't have enough to replace it.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: But it didn't look like this. Yeah, you know, so
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: I think part of it is on both ends. And
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 5: he's right, like this, the Patricia thing ridiculous. Sean's right
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: about that. It was a ridiculous call that we all
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: saw before it happened except me, And I still give
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: you a pass for it, and I don't give you
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: a pass on everything.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: As you know, I'm not gonna I'm gonna be honest.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: I thought it being a stand up guy, but I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: don't really think you were all that confident.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I honestly thought it could work. I was wrong.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: Well, to your point. I think Bill thought it could
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: work too, and I think Bill would still have it
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: trying to work it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I jumped ship, you know, three quarters the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: way through, but I thought it could work.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 5: But I just don't think.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: But there is something like the locker room culture is important.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: That's why when Parcels got here, when Belichick got here,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: they brought in their circle the wagon guys, the guys
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: that they know could be their messengers.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: You know, Baby Hamilton.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all those guys, and they could be
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: the guys that would carry the message of the head
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: coach down to the players. And you know, Belichick was
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: very fortunate because the best player on the team was
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: his messenger.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: That's why when if for the first half of the dynasty,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: those two were simpatico, they were on the same page,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: you know, in terms of work and you know, be
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: demanding of the other players. Belichick was very fortunate that
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: he had the best player in his team lockstep with him. Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Think's changed. Things changed later when when Brady said, you
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: I'm tired of getting treated a little bit more now,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: you know, I think I've earned it.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think and I think Mac he's
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: just missing the results, you know, I think the results
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 7: were there then his hard work, would you know, ring more,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: you know. I mean I don't want to speak to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: because I don't know how players are. But everybody that
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: talks about him, you know, especially the counor Henry recently,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 7: is just you know, loves him, loves the kid. It's
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: just he doesn't have that kind of gravitas to him
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 7: because he hasn't won big game.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Yet, I know.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: And I think that's the biggest difference is the track record.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that that it's a conscious thing
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: that people like looking at him saying like not listening
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: to him when he first what's he ever done? But
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: I do think you circle the wagon guys now, fred
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: as you you know, you move further and further, you know,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: away from from the success, and you're starting to see
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: like some of these guys that he sort of Bill
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: is sort of identified in building around. You know, mccordy's gone,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: now Slater's you know, probably if this isn't it, it's close.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: He's kind of having to buy those guys, you know,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: like let's let's give a little more to Matthew judon him.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: Maybe he's a bigger voice in the locker room with
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: his message that he had after the game the other day.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: And I you know, I don't think that's the best
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: way to do it. You know, it's better when you
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 5: have it the way Fred explained it, when you just
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: have those guys sort of inherently already understanding what your
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: message is. And it seems like, you know, Bill's who
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: would you say Bill's guys are guys like Devonte Parker,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: which it certainly seems like, you know, he brings, he
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: trades and now gives him more money. Bentley's a good
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: example though. I think Bentley would be a good example
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: of the like he would to me extrapolate toward, you know,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: the way the Bruce Ki's in the beginnings and the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: Rabels were. I think he plays like that Bentley. Not
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: talent wise, I'm saying the way he goes about his business.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think you know, gotcha. Before last
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: year you might have said David Andrews, But I think
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: all the guys on offense lost a little bit of trust.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: He alienated some people from last year and a.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 7: Point, the further you get away, I mean, it's easy
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 7: when you're going to AFC Championships and Super Bowls all
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 7: the time, and new players are just kind of being
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: put into the system and now they have that experience too,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 7: and now you know when this guy speaks, you know,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 7: David Andrews a guy they've already won four Super Bowls,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 7: and he arrives but you know he still now has
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 7: won two and has some gravitas to him. But as
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 7: you get into season four, season five, away from it,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 7: you don't have those same guys. You don't have the
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 7: same kind of you know, weight in the locker room
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 7: of somebody saying, you know, of course everyone knows who
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: Matthew Slater is, but you know, go back to I
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 7: think the point I made on Tuesday of just you know,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 7: at what point is Matthew Slater just kind of like,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 7: you know, we've been doing this for five years. I've
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: been giving the same speech every other week when we
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 7: lose a game about we have to decide whether we're
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 7: going to go down fighting or if we're gonna you know,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: just allow this to happen. And I mean, I'm sure
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 7: he's getting sick of it.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan in Michigan and Virginia.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 17: What's up, hey, Freid. You guys are having a terrific
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 17: show today. Mark's coming about the football tree and yours
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 17: in into Paul about knitting a forklift for his lunch
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 17: and impressions of five pitch teenage deuce calling prospective girlfriends
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 17: that have me laugh now.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Loud, checking out like Paul.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 17: But with the prediction for the cyclone this weekend, which,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 17: by the way, I always thought the only difference between
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 17: cyclone and hurricane was that ones used in the northern
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 17: hemisphere and ones used in the southern hemisphere. We always
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 17: had cyclones in Australia, not the hurricanes.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: Butwick okay, so I'm way off on that. Then I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: thought it was the strength of it.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 17: But the weather prediction has me concerned because if there
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 17: is a lot of rain, it really puts the game
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 17: on the on the running game and on the O line.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 17: And last week's game with all the screen passes was maddening.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 17: It doesn't work unless you have James White bog Lewis
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 17: coming out at the backfield and just really sort of
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 17: spoke to the concerns that they have with the limitations
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 17: that they have with the O line. So if we
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 17: do get the storm in New York. Who does it
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 17: give the advantage to the Jets or the the Patriots.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I think the Jets.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: I think the Jets.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, better defense, yeah, probably better two backs. Yeah,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: and it evens out the offenses, you know.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 17: I just thinking that their on line, their online is
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 17: in better shape, and they've got a couple of.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: Yea zero line has been the worst in football so far.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: I mean, I know it's a small sample size. Mike
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: said that at the begining of the show about these
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: you know, these two week windows, but yeah, I mean,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: you know, according to the metrics, they are the worst
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: offensive line in football. Now, that had a lot to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: do with the fact that they played Dallas.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 17: Yeah, but yeah, Buffalo, all right, the Patriots are line.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: Ye. All right, thanks for the call, appreciate it. We'll
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: go up to New York, Dominie. What's up?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Hey, how you doing all right? Hey, Dommy good.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
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  Speaker 22: I gotta appreciate the discussion with the map quest. I
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 22: used to do that in middle school with my dad,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 22: would up the ball game, and honestly, one of my
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 22: tests is like you not telling her before you're coming
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 22: up on an exit. You're not selling, Like how soon
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 22: it's coming up. So usually I have friends even with
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 22: their phones. Now they might tell me too late, I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 22: missed the exit. I'm not getting given enough time to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 22: like change into the lane. So you know, I think,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 22: you know, growing up with the map court there makes
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 22: you a little bit more particular about your direction or not.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: But locally, we had someone using the GPS that killed themselves.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: They listened to the GPS and drove into the water.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: Did you see that story?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you hear those.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: Beth and I immediately looked at each other and said,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: we could see we'll doing that.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: But it takes a right into a cornfield, you know,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: keep going straight, honey, I don't know, just driving to
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: the water, right.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 22: I think it's good to like know your your map locally.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 22: I think that's you vantished to. Everybody knows the backstreets
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 22: and they kind of know like the quick Grouse. My
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 22: mom knows all the pick Grosse Tee, you know, live
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 22: randof be able to get wherever she needs to go
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 22: without taking highways. Yeah, so you know, used to living
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 22: in that area.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 11: That's a plus.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 22: But yeah, just you know, quick thoughts again just on
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 22: the Patriot So I know we've talked a lot about
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 22: their off friends of launch struggles, and that's a part
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 22: of it. But you know, at the end of the day,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 22: every team is going to go through their injury buck
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 22: especially with the offensive line. It always seems like that's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 22: going to be in and out at the end of
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 22: the day. If we don't have a playmaker, if we
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 22: don't have someone that you know can really you can
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 22: throw the ball up to them, get you know, we
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 22: get a completion, get some yarders. It's just not really
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 22: gonna matter even if I think of we're healthy, because
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 22: if we have to be that perfect out only in
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 22: terms of execution, but health, it's.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 15: Never going to work.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 22: We don't have a Justin Jefferson or a Jamar Chase
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 22: or a Tyreek Kill or someone you know, EASi lead
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 22: quarterbacks can throw to. So you know, unless it's all perfect,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 22: which it will never be, it's just going to be
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 22: the same thing over and over. So I mean hoping
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 22: for the best, but at this point kind of seeing
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 22: how things are going, kind of getting a sense of
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 22: what might happen, you know, you know, caustiously optimistic, but
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 22: realistic as well, so you know, go okay street to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 22: see what happens.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 15: Desperate.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Dominique. One more call and then we'll get
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: back to Evan, who's just back from practice. AJ's in
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: the Bay Area. What's up? Aj?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: What keeps?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: Say?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 19: Hi to my eight month old son here?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: He congratulations?
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Hi?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 19: Yeah yeah. So I I I'm just as frustrated with
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 19: the offense as everybody else, I think, but I'm trying
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 19: to find a little bit of optimism here, and I
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 19: just feel like with the offensive line in particular, they
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 19: they've gotten off to a slow start. They got some
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 19: guys that have only played their first game now, and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 19: you know, maybe they can get their feet under them
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 19: a little bit more. That could help the passing game.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 19: That's one reason to maybe be optimistic. You know, some
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 19: more continuity on the offensive line, maybe they can gel
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 19: a little bit here. And then, you know, another thing
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 19: I've been encouraged by is just seeing Kendrick Bourne get
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 19: more involved in the offense again from last year, looking
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 19: at little bit more like you did the year before.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 19: I know, Pop Douglas, right, we are all not happy
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 19: with what happened last game, but you know, that was
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 19: just one game. I don't think he's going to be
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 19: sitting out a whole lot, especially if he shows what
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 19: he can do. And you know, a lot of people
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 19: probably don't want to hear it, but Taekwon Thornton, Right,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 19: he's a fast guy, and I feel like, you know,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 19: I don't have a whole lot of patients left to
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 19: see him show something, but you know, maybe maybe we
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 19: could see something from him when he comes back.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 19: So then the defense looks a little bit better, like
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 19: it might be able to hold you, you know, closer
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 19: in some of these games against the good teams. Yeah
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 19: than it was able to last year.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Let's hope they reverse the trend and actually get better
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: as the season goes along.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I think the offensive line is a good
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 7: place to start, you know. I mean, at least with
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: Trent Brown, and you know, he's got a little more money,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: so maybe.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: It'd be a little bit more engaged, ready to.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 7: Go and get the running game going. I mean, those
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 7: are my two areas of focus on that. Try to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 7: get that stuff going and see what happens.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: All right, I have some optimism from the offense.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Right, I think Evan is back.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: Evan has returned practice, Evan has returned, has returned.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: There, all right, Evan, you were back fairly quickly, so shocker.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah all right, Well day two of Patriots practice this week,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: and the new development is that city so is a
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: no so.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: Not there show.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: So you had that, say it, say it?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: So what are you saying?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: I might just go sell your britches? So if we
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: give him to a million incentives, you think we'll be
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: back at practice tomorrow. So I don't know why does
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: he Why does he do that all the time? Why
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: is Paul always doing so? Yeah?
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: No, no, he was not still on the injury report
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: with concussion there.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: So yeah, he was on the injury port yesterday. Is
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: limited with the concussion. Yeah, maybe it didn't go so hot.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be unfortunate because the head injuries are scary.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: Yep, seriousness.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: No, Marcus Jones again, okay, shoulder injury on the injury
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: report and Devon God shot after the baby.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: Back today, So good.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: I think that.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Uh Marcus Jones, I I wonder if that's gonna be
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: an ir situation.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 4: What was his injury issue last year as a rookie
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: that held him out? Was that a shoulder as well?
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: So he had off season shoulder surgery on both shoulders
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: you're right, and uh, when he entered the league, but
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that if it was, who knows
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: how he injured.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: It's probably one of the same shoulders though.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: Well you got a chance at it, Mike with the jokes. Yep.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: So that's that's the practice, that.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Process of elimination.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the concussion. I thought that was interesting yesterday when
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: and so we're both included as being limited concussion And
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that's, you know, strictly following the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 5: procedure or if they're still dealing with you.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: Thought it would be like they'd been limited with funds funds.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, I thought, listen, I gave you, I
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 5: gave you my joke that was that was a one
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 5: time thing.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: But in all.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: Seriousness, I figured if they're back on the practice field,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: they had to have cleared protocol, right, so there's a
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: ramp up. Yeah, that's why I was out. That's exactly
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 5: what visit a procedure where you have to do it
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: on a limited basis and then yes, tomorrow you find out.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: So to that point, assuming that this is nothing like
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: personal related with so maybe he's sick or something, who knows,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: But if it's related to the concussion, then maybe it's
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: whatever said it didn't go well yesterday.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Off the top of my head, I don't remember the
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: exact procedure, but there is like a steps to clearance procedure,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: and one of them is like, okay, like you can
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: you know, go run on a treadmill or something like that,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: or if you do feel any symptoms, no, okay, Then
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: the next step is all right, let's go through a
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: portion of practice and then you don't and then you
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: and then contact right so then you ramp it back
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: up slowly from there. So my guess as yesterday they
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: went through the next phase of the protocol, and there's
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: a chance, at least I hate speculating, but there's a
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: chance that CITISO didn't pass the next step.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think it's the biggest deal in
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 7: the world. I mean, I think right tackle right now
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 7: is just a huge question mark, and I really don't
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 7: know how that plays out, Like where to even start
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 7: this week, Like do you put Anderson back in there
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 7: and let him kind of give it a go.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: Do you give viderian lo a.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 7: Chance over on that side? I mean, those probably are
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 7: the two options before you go.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 5: I actually thought nuclear with him.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: Viderian Lowe was okay in the game on Sunday night
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: until late when Bradley Chubb got him a few times
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: and then got him on the sack. But on the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: whole I thought he was better than Calvin Anderson was
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: on the other side. So I do wonder if maybe
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: they give Vederian low a look at practice at right
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: tackle this week. And I think a lot of people
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: was so are hoping, well, if he develops that guard,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: then maybe you can kick on Wenn who back out
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: to right tackle, or if it's Mafi at right guard,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: and then on when or whatever the case may be.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: But with Vederian Lowe, I was given the circumstances of
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: him being a back.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 5: I didn't think it was terrible. Maybe it's because the
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 5: bar is lower, you know, with a guy who's never
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 5: really played, so you know, you know, what, what do
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: you expect?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: You know, one of those kind of deals.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't think.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't think at the very least he wasn't losing immediately, yeah,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: and so like he was making them work for it.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: You know, sometimes you get clouded. And I'm as guilty
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: as this as anybody when you watch and you see
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: people like throwing the clips out, you know, and that's
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: that one clip that everybody's putting out of Calvin Anderson
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: on the Running Play where it's.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Just like, I have no idea what he was doing.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: I have a theory on that. That's like an assignment issue, right,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: Like it's not like.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 9: He didn't fail to block somebody, right, But I think
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 9: it goes around Twitter and people make it out to
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 9: be like bigger.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: Than it actually is. And I would agree with if
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: you watch the clip, Uh, you know, Anderson and Pharaoh
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Brown both pull, and my guess is one was supposed
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: to pin and one was supposed to pull, and they
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: both thought they were pulling and nobody pinned. And that's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: how you have Javon Holland run through. So the question
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: that's that's easily correctable, like that will be a two
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: seconds little and pull concept.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: You don't both pull.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 7: There's no pin, we need a pin, You don't pull
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: the pin.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: Adrian clemm okay had on there for a second.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Coach this one. This one's a little bit of different
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: take than what we've had. Trevor says, I was able
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: to attend the Dolphins game for my first visit Gillette. Sucks,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: we lost, but love the environment. I just wanted to
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: say I was on board with Benching Douglas. I know
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: I wasn't at practice and training camp. For what I've seen,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: there was way too much hype around him. I'm hopeful
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: he can be a good player, but I think everybody's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: expectations were too high, and now that a sixth round
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: rookie made a mistake, everyone is up at arms because
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: of the the expectations set for him.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: Okay, so I totally respect the other side of this story,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: but not for that reason necessarily, like it shouldn't have
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: anything to do with any hype. It was he got
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: the ball in his hand twice and made a play
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: both times in the first two series of the game.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: That's why people are upset, not because he had a
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: good training camp. Yeah, like Booty didn't really have a
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: great training camp. He came on, you know, toward the end,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: I thought, But I think people also wanted to see
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: Booty heading into the first game, right, and he didn't
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 5: have a great camp. But then the game came and
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 5: they threw the ball to him four times. He didn't
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: have any catches and no one was sitting there saying,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: how can you bench Booty because he didn't play well
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: against the Eagles, But against the Eagles in Miami, in
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 5: limited reps, I thought Douglas did look like he had
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: a chance to give a spark. And that's why I mean,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: I speaking for myself, that's why I was disappointed that
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: he didn't get another opportunity on offense. Not because of
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: the hype that he got, because you guys know me
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: on the hype, I don't really know. I mean, the
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: cutback was the cutback itself, Like, forget about the fumble
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 5: for a second. The route in the cutback was as
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: dynamic of a five seconds I've seen from the Patriots
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: offense in two games. Like he ran away from the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 5: defender in man coverage, dusted him at the line of scrimmage,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: then cut back and then got into the open field
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: and then Bradley Chubb really made like a fantastic.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: Really good play. Yeah. But the only thing my only caveat.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: That I you know, would fully leave open because we're
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: not at practice, Evans, this is like three or four practices.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: No wrong.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 5: Now Evan's coming back and he's telling you how quickly.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: We're ushered out right. They're not even into the like
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: drills yet when you're getting on right after stretching right. Yep.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: Maybe he's dropping the ball once every practice, do you
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? And I don't know that because
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: we're not at practice. If he's having problems on a
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: consistent basis in practice and then he goes out in
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: the game and he's had the ball in his hand
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 5: five or six times and he's fumbling once, I could
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: understand Bill saying, you know what, his kid's not ready
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: to protect the ball in a game. We got to
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 5: sit them. I'll totally not not that Bill needs my okay,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: but you know, I totally understand that I don't have
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 5: all the information. That's the argument you can make.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: It could be and and but the only reason why
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: we take the other side is because we've seen it
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: so many times with rookies who fumble and they get
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: put on the bench. But could all of them have
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: trouble in practice?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 17: Yeah?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I guess they all could.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah. And I know with Stevenson in his rookie year,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: they were upset with him because they didn't feel like
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: he was ready to play. They they called his professionalism
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: into question early early on in his career, and now,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: to his credit, I don't think anybody would call his
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 5: professionalism into question anymore.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: Ever, he came in out of shape failed a conditioning
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: test as a rookie.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Connor down the street in Foxborough. What's up, Connor? Connor?
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: Connor?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: Connor from Fox.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Take one more email, Donnie and Pittsburgh. There are no
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: exceptions and no excuses. This has to be a get
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: right week for the offense. I know the Jets are
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: seen as a solid defense, but this will be the
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: first game we play with the better quarterback on paper.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: Mac must assert himself and improve his offensive unit compared
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: to the two last weeks. I brought up the box
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: score when I called Tuesday three and oh for the
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: first three quarters is unacceptable. As a fan, I won't
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: be satisfied with a thirteen to ten or similar score
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: to last season. I need to see at least three
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: touchdowns by the offense, preferably one in every quarter. Is
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: that an unfair expectation? Well, if there's a cycle, I.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: Got to ask the tropical cyclone about that.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: One or the Jets defense. Well, I mean I don't
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: think three touchdowns is out of the ordinary. That's what
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: they do. Three scores. It was seventeen this week it
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 5: was twenty one. I mean twenty because they missed an
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: extra point the week before. We went for two, right, Yeah,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: and they didn't get it. But like, I don't think
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: that's out of the realm. Three touchdowns. I don't think
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: you're asking for. That's what they've done. They've scored three
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: times in both games. I just I don't understand what
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: difference does it make who the other quarterback is, Like,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: why they Why is more expected of the offense in
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: this game? Because because they have the teams quarterback isn't good.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean i'd say the defense, like you gotta
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: get after him. You got to force them in the mistakes.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 7: That's the thing with Zach Wilson for me, But I
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: mean for Mac, it's it's about that Jets defense.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, if the if the offense can do well
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: this week, it's a big uplift because you did it
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: against one of the league's best defenses.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: That's a great I'm sure Dallas feels better about their
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: offense this week than they did the first one, right,
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: because they did it against a good defense and they
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: performed better.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: All right, Matt, it's that time of the week. What
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: happened last week?
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: Well, we're putting last week behind us.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: Oh not a good wak. I know I was perfect
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: and then things went sideways.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: I think I think, yeah, I think I was really
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: bad with the spreads this week. Yeah. Fred continues to
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: perform well.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: Just trying to get my glasses ready here, hold please,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: I can't see so good? Ud you sweater on too?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Hello?
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 5: Children, leave grandpa, Hello friends. Freddy eleven and five, tied
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: with Evan.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: At eleven and five.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: Wow, that's a lot better than so good. Solid week
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: week two for you guys. Mike ten and six, good
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: for you, bad Alex nine and seven and Paul wow
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 5: wow seven and nine.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: What what happened to the field of the league.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, he has the feel for the league. So with
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 5: the spread, Yeah, this is ugly. Evan ten five and one. Nice,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: that's good, followed by Fred who continues his strong start
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: nine six and one. Then Alex six nine and one,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 5: five ten and one, and Paul three twelve and one.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Twelve. That's a hole that you're going to have trouble getting.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 9: Worry, boy, we got a lot of weeks football and
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 9: then move on.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: So I did kind of think to myself, there's no
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: way I'm following up that last week, but I mean
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: last year. So overall, here we go Freddy twenty three
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: and nine, Mike and Evan twenty and twelve, Alex and
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: Paul sixteen and sixteen. That's as pathetic as it comes.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: With the spread Freddy twenty eleven.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 21: Making money eleven and one, followed by Mike and Evan sixteen,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 21: fifteen and one, Alex fourteen, seventeen and one, and Paul
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 21: twelve nineteen and one.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 5: And I know what's going on with him over there.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: See, even you think I have a feel for the league,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: you're a little disappointed with I'm shocked.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: Plus I did lose a couple, so maybe you get
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: thrown off by all everybody else's picks.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: I don't I don't even know who you guys. I
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: don't know who I can pick either. Sometimes all right tonight,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know why.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: On Prime Video eight fifteen, the one in one Giants
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: are at the two and oh forty nine Ers.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: The Niners by ten and a half.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 7: Oh geez, I'm gonna take San Francisco. But I'm gonna
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 7: take the points for the Giants. I'm thinking maybe they
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 7: can build off of their end a little bit. It
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 7: just seems like a big spread. I know San Francisco
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 7: is really good, but I am I don't know. I
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: think I'm gonna pick the Giants to make it tighter
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 7: than ten and.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: A half are gonna go Niners. I'm gonna go with Mike.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Mike.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, you give me Alex's picks, Evans picking.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Mike as well. And uh and
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: say that the Giants covered the spread Thursday night. You know,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: you don't see a ton of of one sided affairs
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: That is true.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 5: However, I am going to lay the points with the
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 5: Niners because of Saquon Barkley. I just feel he's such
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 5: a big part of their offense. I'm gonna roll the
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: dice and see if they can cover.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: Alex had forty nine ers and forty nine ers lay
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: the points.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean it's easy to say, oh, it's
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: not going to be that big a gap, but I
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: haven't wasn't even thinking about Barkley I'm just thinking it
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: took everything in their power to come back against the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Cardinals last week, and so I'm gonna go forty nine
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: ers to cover. You know, they're they're good. They're a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: good team. Yep. I would say in your power rankings
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: they probably number one.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: Right the power rankings? Anybody cares them or Miami?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, you know what's fun you you?
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: I don't think they have Miami and my five?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Oh no, I think I think I forgot.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: Maybe that might explain my three, two, twelve and one.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, Moving to Sunday one o'clock, the one and one
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Colts are at the two and oho Ravens.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: Baltimore by seven and a half. Is this Anthony Rich?
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 5: Do we know? It looks like it's trending toward Gardner Minshew.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 7: Min I like Minshew though, but it's at Baltimore. I'm
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: gonna take Baltimore and I will lay the points and
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 7: Alex is doing.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Where is it? Okay?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: Do I have to look at my slacks? Sorry, Ravens Ravens.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: I'm going Ravens Ravens as well. Lamar Jackson MVP front
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: runner in my book right now, Lamar Jackson two, No,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: not too.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm tempted to take the hook, but I'm
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: so far behind i can't do it. I'm gonna take
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: Baltimore both ways.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Ravens both ways too. Colts
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: have been a little better than I thought they would.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm worried that without the quarterback they take
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: a step back offensively.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Up Sunday at one, the one and one Titans are
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: at the one and one Browns.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: Brown's by three and a half. It's by three and
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: a half. I'm gonna take Tennessee on the upset pick of.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: The death taxes and Mike taking Mike Rabel.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: That's right, alex Is is where the heck is this one?
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 4: Oh geez, Browns. She took the Titans with the points though.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: I'm taking the upset too. I'm taking the Titans. I
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: do not think the Browns have done anything offensively to
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: be impressive, and for some reason, Rabel always wins weird
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: games like this, So I'm taking the Titans.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: I agree with you guys that Rabel tends to win
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 5: more games than you think. You know, but I just
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: think Cleveland's better and I'm gonna take I'm gonna take
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: the Browns to win and cover.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I was tempted to take the Titans as well, but
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: now they're on it, so you can't. I'm gonna hedge it.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take the Browns, but I'm gonna take
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: those points. Didn't Watson have some issues last week?
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: He was terrible playing No, but after like did he
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: push somebody?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: It was not a ref that the NFL deans had
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: not rised. I think that was the wording was not
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: rising to the level.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Deshaun Watson looked like like garbage and Nick
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Chubb is dead well, NFL dead.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: I will take the points. At one o'clock, the two
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: and oh Falcons are at the one and one.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: Lions Lions by three.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 7: I like this game, though, I was saying on the
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 7: halftime show how much I am and this is a
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 7: fun game. I just enjoyed Atlanta and you know Detroit
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 7: is at home, so I'm going to take Detroit, but
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the points for Atlanta.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be close.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the Lions. I'll take them to cover.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: I just can't trust Atlant on the road yet. I
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: think they are they do have something brewing, but that's
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: a tough spot.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex, the Lions, Lions.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Lions, Lions too. But I
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: agree with you guys about the Falcons. I think they
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: have a semblance of a good young core with London
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: and Pitt's and Robinson, Desmond Ritter. Yeah that's you know,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: if that if they can hit on those and have
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: you know, get those guys on a second contract together
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 5: and all of a sudden you're dealing with a pretty
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: good core of offensive players.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: Just keep picking in the top ten and you'll get.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: Good players, but the offensive skill play. But you have
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: to hit on them too. I mean, I wouldn't say
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: like the you know, Drake London, oh hit I mean,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: I think it looks like he's pretty good. But you know,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: sometimes you take those guys they don't pan out.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Robinson's cool.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: This is a good it's a good game to fade.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: If you're Shore, you got the Falcons.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: Because anyone that says they know who these two teams
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: are right now, I don't think they're telling you the trying.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with the Falcons for the upset. Okay, Hey,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one the two and oh Saints are at
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: the one and one Packers.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: Packers by two, the pack by two.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: Any any word on Christian Watson is.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's all right. I'm gonna take green Bay and
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: I'll allay the points.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take green Bay.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: Oh sorry, Alex, Packers, Packers for Alex.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Packers, Packers as well. Saints defense really good,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: but that offense did not so much.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, they miss Kamara and i will take
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 5: the Packers as well. You're starting to see just how
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 5: much Kamara did for that offense.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Packers both ways. If
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: it wasn't New Orleans, I might be a little different.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: But it is. Sunday at one oh and two, Texans
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: at the one and one.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 9: Jaguars Jags by noine nine points.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: Alex going Jags and Jags and yeah that's the division.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Jags, but I'm gonna take those points.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: I think it's a close one.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: The Texans have a ton of injuries on top of
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: not being a very good roster, so I'm gonna go
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: Jaguars both ways.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Jacksonville both ways too. I think
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: they're probably kicking themselves. They missed a lot of opportunities
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 5: last week. I think they cleaned some of that up.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Lawrence has yet to play a full sixty
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: minutes of good football. I think this week, because of
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the competition, he should and will. So I'm gonna take
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: Jaguars both ways. Sunday at one, the zero to two
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: Broncos are at the two and zero Dolphins.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: On the road again.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: For the Broncos, Miami by six and a half.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Actually the first time this year. But anyway, yeah is it?
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I gotta I'm gonna go with Miami and I'm
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 7: gonna lay the points. Say, I just recency buys for me.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 7: I thought they looked really good.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna stick with them, Alex, Alex did the where
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: is it?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: Sorry?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: Dolphins both ways?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna take Miami both ways too. I
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 5: was thinking about taking the points, but I think they
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 5: beat him by a touchdown.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: I think a certain head coach called another certain head
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: coach who was his friend and gave him some tips.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take those points. So Dolphins win.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: But Sean Payton called who Belichick parcels?
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah Belichick. Belichick and Peyton are friends.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: Now they were friends.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: Let the Dolphins go never mind, You're right, so you
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 5: got you got Miami to win, but Denver to cover.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: Just don't turn it over.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: What did it?
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 5: You could never find now, Alex.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: Dolphins, but took the points for the Broncos.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, uh, Sunday at one the oh and two Chargers
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: are at the OH and two.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: Viking Vikings by one.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Somebody's got to win Vikings probably one.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 5: There are top.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: Man, this is These are two very similar teams, and
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with l A. Baby,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: Let's uh, I'll go with l A. I'll take those
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: at one point.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: I'm taking the Vikings at home because I do not
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: trust the Chargers to win a road game.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 5: I think both of these teams are very similar in
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: that they're just not that good, and for some reason
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: people still think.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: They both are, especially the Chargers.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: But I'm gonna I'm gonna take the Chargers on the
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: road because I think they're a little bit better than Minnesota.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: Alex.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I'm surprised we're on the same page here.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: I think the Chargers have a big offensive game, big
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: offensive game.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: Her cousin's at one o'clock, folks, that is true.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna take the Chargers, uh for that one
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: one o'clock. The one and one Bills are at the
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: two and oh Commanders.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 5: Buffalo by six and a half.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: Buffalo's nine and a half and a half. Alex took
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: the Bills, but the Commander's points. But I am going
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 4: to take the Bills and I'm going to lay the
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: points eleven.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: This is tough because Sam Howell's actually looked to play great,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: pretty decent. I'm gonna take Buffalo both ways, though. I
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: just think they're a much better team. But the Commanders
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: are a little sneaky, a little sneaky.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take Buffalo both ways too. But I'm
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 5: watching watching you. I'm watching you, Buffalo. I want to
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: see if you handle this. This is a spot the
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 5: last few years that they would stumble, you know, on
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 5: the road against not a terrible team, but not a
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: good one either, and they sort of roll the balls
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 5: out there and see what happens, and they either win
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 5: by you know, a closer game than it should be.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: They're kind of like Baltimore like that. Baltimore does a
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 5: lot of those. Well all of a sudden, you know,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 5: you look up and it's like seventeen thirteen in the
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 5: fourth court and you're like, what's going on in that game? Yeah,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 5: but I'll take Buffalo.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: I will be rooting for the Commanders, but I have
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: the Bills winning both ways. So all right, now we
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: skip over the Patriots and we go to the one
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: four h five game. It's the zero to two Panthers
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: at the one and one Seahawks.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: Seattle by six.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 5: Good chance, there is no price Young, Rice Young.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the case. Seattle at home. I will lay
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: the points. Alex did the same.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: The worst offense in the NFL right now is the
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers, and they might be down there starting quarterback.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take Seattle.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: B do the math.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: See, I'm gonna take Seattle both ways too, But I
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 5: wonder if it actually helps them. You know, I think
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 5: Bryce Young is fine, you know, but he's not ready.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: I watched the you know, good chunk of that Monday
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 5: night game the other night, and if he wasn't able
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: to just pull it down and run.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: They had a hard time.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 5: Moving the ball. Ali pretty good drive. At the end
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: of the game. They were down ten and at one
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: of those well by the way touchdown drives and he
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: did a good job, you know, with the clock. They
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 5: just take Seattle Bowl.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: They traded Dj Moore for the pick to draft Price
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: Young and now they have no receivers in Carolina.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: Adam Adam Balen was like the only guy who's throwing too.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take Seahawks both ways in that one
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: at home four to twenty five. The two and oh
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: Cowboys are at the zero to two.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: Cardinals Dallas by twelve and a half. Twelve and a half.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 7: That's a lot, but I think that's that's enough. I'm
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 7: gonna take Dallas and I'll lay the points. Alex did
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 7: the same.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Dallas to cover Micah Parsons. Is he
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: like the best player in football?
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: My gosh?
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, not quarterback edition.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: That's next week too, like here next week. Yeah.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's a big spread on the road, but
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I can't take the points.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Dallas both ways too.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a hammer and nail game. I'm gonna
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: take the Cowboys both ways.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: Uh, Cardinals of the nail.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Five. The two Bears are at the one and one Chiefs.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: Chiefs by twelve and a half.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 7: Oh boy, a lot of controversy for Chicago this week.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't love it hard not to take Kansas City
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: and lay the points, and I'm going.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: To I don't love taking that many points with the
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 3: Chiefs right now either, because I don't think that they're
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: firing at all cylinders quite yet. But the Bears are
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: such disarray, i gotta take the Chiefs both ways.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: Alex is tristed to you twelve and a half.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the flow Kansas City both ways.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a subpoena issued in Chicago for the
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: offense to show up, but it won't. Chiefs both ways.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: Get arrested defensive coordinator too.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. Now we move to Sunday night on
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: and sure, oh this.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: Is the night game.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the one and one Steelers are at the one
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: and one Raiders gros.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: What a bad game.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the one I'll be watching. Raiders by two
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: and a half Raiders.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: Wow, all right, that's that's spun around on my sheet
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 7: tough one. I did watch some of Vegas against Buffalo
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 7: last week and was not impressed, and I know Pittsburgh's
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 7: still been struggling to get things going.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the home team. I'll take Vegas,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: a'll ay the points.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the home team as too, home team,
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: two bodyclock, weird bodyclock game traving across the country.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Pittsburgh.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, they kind of the same, these teams, and
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 5: you should go with the home team, but I'm gonna
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: for some reason in my mind, I think Pittsburgh's better.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a complete gut pick for me, not
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: that any of the others aren't. But I'm gonna take
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: the Steelers as well for the road upset.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: Alice had Raiders, but Steelers plus two and a half.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: So we have a Monday night double hitter again.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, we got a pall paro little special, right.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 5: We didn't talk about it like I just brought it up.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: You guys didn't like it, Oh I did, no. I
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: I thought I liked the idea of being able to
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: like switch back and forth. It taste of some day
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: I hate commercially.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 4: Don't get that. We don't get it. Yeah right, you know,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: and they're either a stream you do not like it.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Games.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: I liked having them both at the same time. And
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: you I thought they did a good job of keeping
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 5: you up to date, you know, like so like if
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 5: you were watching one and something was happening, they got
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 5: you over there.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: Did you not like the experience?
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I fell asleep in the first quarter?
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Now now yeah, Now, in all seriousness, it was
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 5: it's coming off a night game, and neither game was was,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 5: you know, terribly compelling. The start of the Pittsburgh Cleveland
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 5: game was exciting, but because of all the ineptitude, because
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 5: it was drunk, there was there was four turnovers in
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 5: the first like ten minutes of that game.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: Seven fifteen on ABC, the two and oh Eagles are
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: at the two and oh Buccaneers.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 4: Uh, Philly by five. Five. I know that the Tampa's
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: showing a little juice here. I'm seeing some high for
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, but I don't think it's enough. I think
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: Philadelphia is gonna really start to kick in the gear here.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: I will take them and lay the points.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 5: Philly rolls, that's all I got you're taking the points.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 4: Did you say, No'm laying the point?
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 5: Laying the point?
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: And Alex did the same.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Philly both ways too. I think
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 5: Tampa I give him a lot of credit, you know,
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: find a way to win a couple of games to
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: start the year. I don't think they're very good.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Two and zero because you don't like Baker Mayfield. That's
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: your problem.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 5: Well, that that's true. Yeah, I don't think Tampa is
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: very good because I think their quarterback stinks. That is accurate.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: I am going to go with the Buccaneers to cover.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: Eagles win, but the Buccaneers don't lose by the points
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: that were said.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 4: That's that's gambling parlance.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so is covering.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: That's covering eight fifteen on ESPN The one in one
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: Rams are against the zero to two Bengals, Bengals by
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: two and a half.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: Wow, this line has moved from my sheet.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 5: Well what did it say in Yoshi's six and a half?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 4: Bengals Bengals, So.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: The money's coming in.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, Puka Nakula, you can't stop them. You can
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: only hope to contain them. I'm gonna take Cincinnati La
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: the points.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 3: Upset of the week. I just I look at Joe
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: Burrow and I don't see Joe Burrow.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: I see it got a chat injury.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: Of himself, and I'm actually pretty shocked at the Bengals
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 3: haven't shut him down for a couple of weeks.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: And yeah, if they lose this one, that could happen.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 5: I think it's a get right game. I'll take the Bengals,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 5: much like last year.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going with the Rams both ways.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: Didn't see that coming.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, you know it, Paul, Rams win, Bengals go oh
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: and three. All right, Now we go back to one
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: o'clock in New Jersey. The oh and two Patriots are
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: up against the one and one Jets.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 5: Patriots by two and a half.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna get away from my pick for that.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: And a half. Yeah, that's five and a half.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 4: It's because on the point road, right, you get three,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: get three. That's extra bad.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: But actually that that's happening less.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 4: Than don't don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Don't.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 5: Don't bring logic into this even I am.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: Going to take New England.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: Don't don't get me going.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: But I think it's.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 7: It's it's gonna be points are going to be at
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 7: a premium, and so I'm going to say Patriots thirteen
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 7: to six.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 3: I'm taking the Patriots. I just feel like even post Brady,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: they still win games against Zach Wilson's of the world.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: They don't lose these types of games against lesser quarterbacks.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: But I think there's going to be a little bit
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: more scoring than other people do. I don't know how
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: they get. There might be defensive touchdowns. Marcus Jones while
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: he might not play so Pop Douglas, Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen Patriots, Yeah.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: The formula for Patriots success in recent vintages have the
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 5: other team's backup quarterback playing and that is the case.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 5: So I am on the Patriots. I think that they
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 5: are The difference between the two quarterbacks is the difference
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 5: in the game. And I think maybe seventeen thirteen New England,
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 5: I think Zach Wilson throws one h two to you
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 5: and that's the difference in the game.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this weather, yeah, I was. I was with Evan
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: before I got about the cyclone that's coming, and I
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: thought that there'd be more points. What's the over under
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: in this game?
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 5: Thirty seven, thirty seven.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that I was gonna go with the over.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stick with the Patriots scoring in the
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: low twenties. So I'm gonna say twenty three ten Patriots.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: I like that one. Alex's Patriots twenty four to thirteen.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: Twenty four to thirteen, that's Alex. Okay, So we're all
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: on the Patriots.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 5: Shocker, you gotta be this, We're all on the under.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, I do think the game is going to
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 7: be tight, and weather could really just make it a
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 7: coin flip of who makes that one big play at
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 7: some point in the game. But I just think the
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 7: Patriots need it more than the Jets do right now,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 7: and that's going to make the difference.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 5: I just can't see Bill losing to Zach Wilson. I can't.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: That's me.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: That's where I am.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: If if Aaron Rodgers were playing in this game, I
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: would not have I would I would pick Jet.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: I'd be scared to death. Mike and your round table
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: this morning. Any interesting I haven't I haven't.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: I haven't been. I haven't gone through him yet. I've
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: gotten some of them back.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 5: I requisite a media turn, did you.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: Fred's quick, it's got nothing going on. He's just sitting
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: in there waiting.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 5: I wonder if you got in before calendar being the
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: first responder, probably the busiest one. I don't know about
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: that had a meeting. Sorry, sorry, I got to do
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: this right now. Okay, So I think we all see
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 5: the same kind of a game. Points would be sort
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: of fluctuating based on the amount of turnovers, right, ye,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 5: can't have them.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: I see some some pick threes. Likes to call them.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: There were a lot of pick threes in this game
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh boy, I'm nervous. I'm really nervous. I can't
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: remember in Week three being like this, like, oh god,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: it's a must win.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: You know, probably two at least it's not Aaron. Like
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: if this was Aaron Rodgers, and I think all of
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: us would be picking oh and three.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: Right, So there's any other team but the Jets, Like
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: if you're playing the Bears this week, and like, okay,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: you gotta win it. But you'll lose against the Jets
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: after fourteen straight wins and Zach Wilson's the quarter and
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: you'll lose. That can't happen. That cannot happen. Telling you
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: right now. It cannot happen.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: That would get really ugly when you really think about it.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: If they if they lose for the first time in
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: seven years to the Jets, to Jack Wilson, that to
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: go and three, that could be really that could be
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 3: a ballgame right there, look out.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: Below and then down and then off to Dallas.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: And then off to Dallas.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: But then they beat Dallas, they upset them good again better. Yeah,
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: that's true.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: It goes back to what we were talking on the top
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: of the show. Every week has its own life, and
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: things can really change quickly if you get that big
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: win against a team that's good like Dallas.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: You know, I mean to beat the Jets.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 7: I I I can't even get to that yet, but
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 7: that's going to be another big challenge too. But I
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 7: got a lot of respect for the personnel the Jets have,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 7: and you know, I know that these games have been
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 7: closer lately.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: And we'll see the turner's.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Name, Douglas, the GM over there, Douglas. He's got a
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: pretty good job so far.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 5: It's got a lot of high picks.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's built a lot of high picks, but he's
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: picked some good guys.
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  Speaker 5: Besides Zach Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: True, is that his pick yes, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Which is like that's in itself tells you how good
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  Speaker 3: they've done with the rest of the roster, because if
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  Speaker 3: you pick a number two overall quarterback and he stinks,
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  Speaker 3: that's usually game.
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  Speaker 1: I know we're coming up against it. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: get ready for catch twenty two. But I think we
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  Speaker 1: need to have a segment at some point to talk
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  Speaker 1: about the current state of quarterbacks coming out of college,
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  Speaker 1: because I think we've lowered our bar. I think Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence was a blue chipper, but other than that, all
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  Speaker 1: these guys that have come out, these aren't the quality
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks that were used to being seeing at tops of drafts.
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  Speaker 7: Joe Burrow is, but I mean there's a lot of traits,
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  Speaker 7: a lot of guys with traits.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you don't think Herbert's any good good You
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  Speaker 5: could say that he's not going to win.
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  Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, did I say that?
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  Speaker 5: I just said Herbert and he said as a prospect, right,
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  Speaker 5: But that's what I'm saying. He's got all the tools.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a great prospect, but thank you.
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  Speaker 1: But there's a lot of guys like have had all
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  Speaker 1: the tools that don't pan.
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  Speaker 3: But like Burrow, Trevor, Lawrence, to Uh and Herbert are
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  Speaker 3: for legit, legit prospects coming out. This quarterback class coming
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  Speaker 3: up don't get far star like last.
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  Speaker 1: But people here Caleb Williams. Is he that that good?
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  Speaker 4: They're playing his music?
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  Speaker 1: Is he that good?
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  Speaker 5: Oh? So you just don't like anybody caod Now listen,
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  Speaker 5: there's been guys that bust in the NFL. I'm not
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  Speaker 5: telling you he's bust proof, but the guy is tremendous,
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  Speaker 5: is he? Yes? Oh yeah, he's he's really good him.
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  Speaker 5: Did you ever watch any USC games? Yeah, he's good.
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  Speaker 3: D Drake May really good from u n C. Shrewder
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  Speaker 3: Sanders from Colorado. But Dion said that he might go
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  Speaker 3: to He might go back because of n I l against.
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  Speaker 1: Taking more money.
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  Speaker 5: To take you have to take a pay cut.
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  Speaker 3: He already already has a rolls Royce, I heard about that.
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  Speaker 5: And Thomas and at t c U to take a
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  Speaker 5: cut to the.
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  Speaker 3: L Yeah, well he's mentoring him, is he?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that kid's gonna be good.
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  Speaker 5: Is that just poor to you? I could look at
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  Speaker 5: the disappointment on your face.
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  Speaker 1: No, you know what I'm kind of impressed. What if?
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  Speaker 1: What if? Kind of impressed that Probably Dion Sanders reached
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  Speaker 1: out to Tom Brady and said, can you mentor my kid?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's signed to TV twelve brand, and what if
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  Speaker 3: he's the next quarter.
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  Speaker 1: I'm impressed by that, Like maybe you know realizes he doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: If he's the next coach of the team. Well prime coach.
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  Speaker 3: Coach Prime and his son with Tom Brady mentoring the Sun.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 15: I like it.
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  Speaker 5: You see how easy it is you guys make fun
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  Speaker 5: of my shows. That's how easy it is. You could
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  Speaker 5: just go up like that week in a blink.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there we are.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's it for our show, Catch twenty two
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  Speaker 1: with Alex and Evan coming up next, pregame Social on
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  Speaker 5: And make sure you listen so Alex will tell you
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  Speaker 5: just how good Caleb Williams is and you won't be
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  Speaker 5: worried about what Press already did.
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