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POTB 554: Rick Bozich previews IU-Miami (FL) in the CFP national championship game · Podcast on the Brink

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a new episode of Podcast on the Brink. Friday,
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Speaker 1: January sixteenth, our second episode of the week. Yesterday we
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Speaker 1: were joined by Tyler Tashman to do a brief preview
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Speaker 1: of the Indiana Iowa basketball game coming up Saturday at
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Speaker 1: Assembly Hall. We also talked some IU football with Tyler,
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Speaker 1: who of course covers the Iowah Hawk guys, who gave
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Speaker 1: Indiana one of their better tests of the regular season,
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Speaker 1: at least at Kennec Stadium, Indiana. That was really a
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Speaker 1: pivotal win for them on this run to fifteen to
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Speaker 1: zero and reaching the CFP National Championship Game. But today
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk specifically IU football with my dad,
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Speaker 1: Rick Bozich, retired Basketball Writers Association Hall of Famer, and
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Speaker 1: as you can see there if you're watching on YouTube,
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Speaker 1: his title IU Football Observer. Since nineteen fifty nine, you've
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Speaker 1: covered a lot of bad IU football for many years.
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Speaker 1: You covered also a lot of bad Kentucky and Louisville football.
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Speaker 1: But in terms of football stories in this area, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've had conversations that this IU football run and this
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Speaker 1: turnaround is arguably one of the greatest stories in college
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Speaker 1: football history. But this has got to be the and
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Speaker 1: coincidentally happens the year after you retire, so you're not
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Speaker 1: actually covering the team on a day day basis anymore.
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Speaker 1: But this has got to be the top of the
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Speaker 1: list in terms of college football stories ever in this
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Speaker 1: part of the country. Correct.
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Speaker 2: I don't think you have to limit it to this
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Speaker 2: part of the country. I think and limited to the
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Speaker 2: entire country. I can't think of a story more improbable
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Speaker 2: over the whole season. People have early on when coach
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Speaker 2: Signetti was changing things, they compared to Indiana, to Kansas
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Speaker 2: State and what Bill Snyder did. But they never really
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Speaker 2: got close to winning a national title, and I don't
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Speaker 2: think they had any undefeated seasons. You know, Miami when
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Speaker 2: they won their first national title under Howard Schnellenberger was
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Speaker 2: a remarkable story because Miami had been bad for a
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Speaker 2: while and some people wanted to sort of either de
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Speaker 2: emphasize or eliminate the program. They'd already eliminated basketball for
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Speaker 2: a while if you checked Miami Hurricanes.
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Speaker 3: They closed down their.
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Speaker 2: Basketball program for a while and Schnellberger came in. But
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Speaker 2: it was this fifth year and they upset Nebraska, which
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Speaker 2: at the time was considered not only the best team
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Speaker 2: in the country, but maybe the best team of all time.
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Speaker 2: They upset them in the Orange Bowl and won the
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Speaker 2: national championship. You know, there are probably other couple, one
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Speaker 2: or two other stories I can think of, but I
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Speaker 2: can't think of any, uh that were a title one
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Speaker 2: by a program like Indiana, which was so far down
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Speaker 2: for so long.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And the the crazy thing about it is Signetti came
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Speaker 1: in and talked about all these things, and everyone thought
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Speaker 1: he was crazy, And now he's been able to deliver.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can remember and it still gets played
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Speaker 1: all the time on TV, on broadcast and gets played
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Speaker 1: on social media. What he said at that first IU
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Speaker 1: basketball game about Ohio State, Michigan and Purdue being terrible,
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Speaker 1: are sucking or whatever he said. You know, he he
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Speaker 1: came up I think did a hit on it was
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Speaker 1: a it was a Big Ten show early in his tenure,
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Speaker 1: where he talked about he wanted to come up to
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis because he'd be there the next year to coach
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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten championship game. He only did that,
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Speaker 1: you know, one year later than he said. But all
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Speaker 1: of these things, I think, I think in the beginning
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Speaker 1: were important because he's described when he came into the program,
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Speaker 1: just the level of despair that he could feel around
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Speaker 1: campus and the program and changing the attitude. How important
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Speaker 1: do you think was that the early tone setting that
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Speaker 1: Signette did in terms of how he wanted to project himself,
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Speaker 1: how he wanted to be viewed, and getting this thing
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Speaker 1: turned around, because not only did he say these things,
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Speaker 1: he quickly backed them.
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Speaker 2: Up essential And I think I'm not sure he believed
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Speaker 2: the stuff he said to the degree that he said it,
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Speaker 2: but I think he believed that he had to say it.
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Speaker 2: You know, the way I look at it is when
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Speaker 2: you have big organizations or big corporations, creating change is
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Speaker 2: a difficult thing to do because the culture and the
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Speaker 2: mindset has been baked into it for so many years.
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Speaker 2: So he was speaking to the players who were there
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Speaker 2: on the program, he was speaking to future recruits, he
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Speaker 2: was speaking to administrators and people around IU, and he
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Speaker 2: was speaking to the fans. And the only way to
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Speaker 2: create change, I think is to shock the system. And
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Speaker 2: he shocked the system. And I think the first comment
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Speaker 2: he made was the one on the BTN show from
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Speaker 2: Lucas Oil that was the day of his original press conference,
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Speaker 2: and I remember watching it and like when he said that,
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Speaker 2: it was like when he was leaving, like, yeah, I'll
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Speaker 2: be back.
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Speaker 3: Next year because we're gonna play in the Gameless. I
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Speaker 3: just I just laughed. I said, does you know where
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Speaker 3: he is? I mean, what is he? What is he
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Speaker 3: talking about?
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Speaker 2: And then he doubled down with the comments at the
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Speaker 2: basketball game, and then he tripled down with the when
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Speaker 2: he got questioned at the press conference and he did
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Speaker 2: the you know, I win, Google me. And even after
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Speaker 2: he won, for a while, I mean, people still weren't
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Speaker 2: all the way I don't think everybody's all the way in,
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Speaker 2: even everybody around IU. I don't think it's been all
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Speaker 2: the way in until maybe this year when they went
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Speaker 2: on the road and beat Oregon. That was the that
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Speaker 2: was the last call to get everybody on board, and
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Speaker 2: from that point forward people believe. But I remember before
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Speaker 2: last season listening to Gayalen Clavio and Scott Caulfield because
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Speaker 2: they've done an IU football podcast for a long time,
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Speaker 2: and they were doing the pregame predictions and they were
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Speaker 2: already they were ahead of the line in terms of
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Speaker 2: being believers, and they were picking like ten and two
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Speaker 2: or eleven and one, and I remember thinking, come on, man,
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Speaker 2: I mean eight and four would be a great year,
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Speaker 2: considering it was a new coach, and then it was
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Speaker 2: what ten and zero? And they never trailed at any point,
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Speaker 2: So it's important who's done Nobody's done that. I mean,
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Speaker 2: nobody has ever done that. Nobody what was the first
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Speaker 2: moment last year?
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Speaker 1: And obviously I want to talk more about this year
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Speaker 1: and get ahead also to the game Miami and Indiana.
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Speaker 1: But I'm curious just you were covering its last year.
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Speaker 1: I know you went to the playoff game up at
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, but during the regular season, was there a
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Speaker 1: moment or a game where you thought to yourself, Wow,
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Speaker 1: this team really could be something special. You know. I
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Speaker 1: remember watching just the UCLA road game and you say
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Speaker 1: it wasn't a great team. But I remember Signetti saying
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Speaker 1: something about, you know, we're going out there to we
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Speaker 1: don't care if we play in a parking lot. We're
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Speaker 1: going out there to kick somebody, you know what. And
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Okay, we'll see, you know, we'll see how
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Speaker 1: this all turns out. And he goes out there and
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Speaker 1: absolutely destroys UCLA. It wasn't even really a competitive game,
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Speaker 1: and then the Nebraska home game they went I think
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Speaker 1: it was fifty six to seven and crushed them. But
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, just from your perspective, was there a moment
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Speaker 1: or two last season during the regular season where you thought, well,
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Speaker 1: this is this is different, this is something we've not
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Speaker 1: seen before.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember the order of the games last year.
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Speaker 2: I went to three of them. I think it was
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Speaker 2: Nebraska first, then uh Maryland and and maybe Washington. But
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Speaker 2: during that stretch of games is when my mind got
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Speaker 2: changed to watch of a just how relentless they were
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Speaker 2: and how dominant they were. B you could more, more
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Speaker 2: and more people were coming to the games and getting
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Speaker 2: in their seats early because he got all that stuff
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Speaker 2: cleared up in terms of you know, when the game starts,
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Speaker 2: being your seats and don't leave at halftime and see
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Speaker 2: just to look at the the playmakers they had on
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Speaker 2: both sides of the ball and Ponds I was there
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Speaker 2: for Ponds made that long interception and there was a
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Speaker 2: block pun and some long passes and you know, you
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Speaker 2: could see what then won one of those games, I
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Speaker 2: think with Tavan Jackson as the quarterback because work had
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Speaker 2: gotten hurt, maybe against Nebraska and then Tavan Jackson had
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Speaker 2: to play I think maybe against Washington, I think even
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Speaker 2: that didn't slow him down. So for me, that's when
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is different, but not National Championship different.
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Speaker 2: I mean you looked at their players and said, yeah,
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Speaker 2: they got I think got some good players, but they
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Speaker 2: didn't have any first round draft picks. Nobody really jumped
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Speaker 2: off the page of like this is a guy that
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Speaker 2: could carry a team long way. You know through a season.
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Speaker 2: They didn't have the players Ohio State had and they
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Speaker 2: didn't have the players Notre Dame.
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Speaker 3: Haven't it showed up?
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Speaker 2: You know when they played both those teams, you could
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Speaker 2: tell last year I think I think that still needed
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Speaker 2: to do some fine tuning. They need to get better
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Speaker 2: for sure on the offensive line, and they needed to
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Speaker 2: get better maybe a little bit on the defensive line too.
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Speaker 3: And then he's done that.
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Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest Obviously the Ohio State
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Speaker 1: game last year didn't go very well out there. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's talked about not ready for the moment. Same thing
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Speaker 1: with the Notre Dame game up there in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: What do you think the biggest thing that changed from
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Speaker 1: last season to this season? Because they They were a
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Speaker 1: great team last season. They made the playoff, but I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people coming into the season. You
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Speaker 1: look at the preseason rankings, they were I think nineteen
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Speaker 1: or twenty maybe in the AP Coach's poll, and they
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Speaker 1: even moved down I think a couple of spots after
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Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks when they didn't beat Old
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Speaker 1: Dominion very convincingly, and I think people thought, well, this
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Speaker 1: is kind of a lightning and a bottle situation. There'll
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Speaker 1: be a good team, but they're probably gonna lose three
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Speaker 1: or four games and make a good Bowl game. I
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Speaker 1: even remember looking back to some of the bowl predictions
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, and they were in
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Speaker 1: not even being mentioned as in the trust the playoff team. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: what do you Obviously Mendoz is a big deal. Anytime
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Speaker 1: you can recruit a great quarterback that like he is
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Speaker 1: and have a Heisman Trophy winner, that's a big part
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Speaker 1: of it. But what do you think changed from last
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Speaker 1: year to take them from a really good team to
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Speaker 1: now a great team?
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Speaker 3: Probably a lot of things.
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Speaker 2: I mean, a was it was second year, so a
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Speaker 2: lot of the players that came back had already been
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Speaker 2: through what they were doing, and they could work with
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Speaker 2: some of the newcomers on getting them on board to
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Speaker 2: do things the way signify and the coaching staff and
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Speaker 2: wanted to be the strength and conditioning coach had more
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Speaker 2: time with those guys. Excuse me, I think he's an
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Speaker 2: important factor. And see they improved their talent level. You know,
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Speaker 2: you can start on the offensive line, Coogan. No disrespect
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Speaker 2: to Mike Katitch because I don't want him to pound me. Uh.
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Speaker 2: If you've watched him celebrate some of the games, he looks.
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Speaker 2: But Cougan has been tremendous player and a tremendous leader.
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Speaker 2: Bray Lynch and Evans and Smith came back from last year,
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Speaker 2: so they're more experienced. And then they brought in Benson
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Speaker 2: and a Johnny stepped forward, so the offensive line has
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Speaker 2: been better. Noah Kowski's an improvement at tight end. He's
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Speaker 2: a really, really good blocker. Nobody talks about that. He's
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Speaker 2: a tremendous blocker, and he's become a better receiver the
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Speaker 2: second half of the season. Cooper's another year of experience.
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Speaker 2: Sarats you know, got a tremendous connection with Mendoza. Charlie
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Speaker 2: Becker over the second half of the season has become
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Speaker 2: I'm a very, very you know, productive deep threat. He
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Speaker 2: allows him to stretch the field and probably makes it
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Speaker 2: easier for some of the under routes or on play
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Speaker 2: action passing to take care of that. So yeah, and
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Speaker 2: Mendoza is better than Curtis Rourke. I mean, you're right,
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Speaker 2: he didn't start. His first couple of games weren't great,
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Speaker 2: But in his numbers aren't They don't blow you away
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Speaker 2: in terms of yards per game or even the number
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Speaker 2: of touchdown passes he's thrown is it's good. That's not
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Speaker 2: like super extraordinary. But what is incredible, and it's been
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Speaker 2: talked about many times, is that he doesn't throw interceptions.
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Speaker 2: And to have five or six games, however many it
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Speaker 2: is where he's had more touchdown passes then incompletions is
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Speaker 2: unheard of. And I'm not even talking yet about the defense,
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Speaker 2: where you know, Fisher's got another year of experience, Hardy's
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Speaker 2: become better. Isaiah Jones has become the guy that barely
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Speaker 2: played to a playmaker who makes big gets and gets turnovers.
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Speaker 2: Lewis Moore came back and gave him a you know,
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Speaker 2: a guy who could be a NFL player at safety.
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Speaker 2: Uh Ponds isn't one of the best cornerbacks in the country.
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Speaker 2: The defensive line is is solid. You know, they've they've
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Speaker 2: they've they've got legitimate players at every position.
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Speaker 1: And the other thing that's that's really impressed me, and
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Speaker 1: I know this is something we've tested about throughout the season,
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Speaker 1: just about some of the injuries that they've been able
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Speaker 1: to overcome, particularly on the defensive line losing daily. I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people thought that would be a
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Speaker 1: problem and remembered how that would turn out. But he's
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Speaker 1: been able to uh Are Indiana's just been able to
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Speaker 1: kind of shore shore.
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Speaker 3: Up any.
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Speaker 1: Potential weaknesses that they have had from from the uh
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Speaker 1: the injury perspective, and the same thing with with Becker.
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Speaker 1: Not an injury thing, but a young player emerging to
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Speaker 1: me is a good sign of coaching because it's the
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Speaker 1: next man up mentality of all right, you haven't gotten
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Speaker 1: a chance to play, but when your numbers called, you're
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Speaker 1: actually ready to play. That shows me that they're not
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Speaker 1: just working on developing the starters, and they're also building
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Speaker 1: a team for the future and developing their younger players.
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Speaker 3: No question about it.
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Speaker 2: I mean a defensive end, they're actually down two guys
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Speaker 2: because Colin Wyatt went down first and then Stephen Daily
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Speaker 2: went down, and Duke Way comes in, you know, and
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Speaker 2: blocks a punt and had a couple of sacks. And
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Speaker 2: he's a red shirt freshman I believe, who was a
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Speaker 2: three star recruit, wasn't even like one of the top
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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty players in the state of Georgia.
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Speaker 2: He was going to go to James Madison instead when
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Speaker 2: Signetti came to Indiana, he went to Indiana. So that's
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Speaker 2: great evaluation, great work in the weight room, and then
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Speaker 2: great coaching to get a guy to be that much
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Speaker 2: of a factor. Usually guys that are three stars, you
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Speaker 2: might not expect them to even become a contributor to
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Speaker 2: their third or fourth year. This is his second year,
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Speaker 2: and Becker is another one. He's another red shirt freshman,
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Speaker 2: I believe, And he's a guy that strikes me as
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Speaker 2: being tremendously motivated that he feels like when he was
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Speaker 2: in high school he was overlooked or under recruited, and
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Speaker 2: he's wanting to show people how good he really is.
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Speaker 2: I know his dad played at Ohio State, and I've
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Speaker 2: seen pictures of him going to an Ohio State game
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Speaker 2: as a kid, and I think he was really motivated
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Speaker 2: in that game to show the Buck guys that they
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Speaker 2: missed out on not looking at him.
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Speaker 1: So both teams as they prepare for Monday night, have
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Speaker 1: had tremendous runs through the playoffs. It's not just Indiana
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Speaker 1: beating Alabama like they did in Oregon. Miami equally impressive
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Speaker 1: by going obviously to Texas A and M and then
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Speaker 1: beating Ohio State standing toe to toe with him in
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Speaker 1: many ways that went over Ohio State more impressive than
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Speaker 1: what Indiana did, just how they blitzed him early and
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Speaker 1: kind of took over the game and never really lost control,
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Speaker 1: and then obviously showing they could win a tight game
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Speaker 1: against Old Miss and knocking the SEC out of the
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Speaker 1: playoffs for good this season. When you look at this matchup,
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Speaker 1: obviously Indiana's I think a little bit over a touchdown
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Speaker 1: favorite right now depending on where you look. So Indiana's
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Speaker 1: that's a pretty solid number for a national championship game.
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Speaker 1: But obviously Indiana's earned it with the way they've played
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Speaker 1: throughout the season and they're two dominant wins. What are
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Speaker 1: what are your initial thoughts on how these teams match
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Speaker 1: up with each other and maybe a key or two
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Speaker 1: for each side if they're gonna win the game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the strength of Miami's team is their run defense.
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Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think they led the ACC and
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Speaker 2: rushing defense limited teams to under three yards of carry.
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Speaker 2: And Indiana has been really good at running the ball
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Speaker 2: against good teams and getting themselves, you know, into reasonable
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Speaker 2: second down plays and reasonable third down play. So running
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Speaker 2: the ball on first down is going to be important,
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Speaker 2: you know. I think the second thing will be how
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Speaker 2: much pressure they can put on and make Carson Beck uncomfortable.
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Speaker 2: Carson Beck, you know, as a was he a fifth
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Speaker 2: or six year player. He played at Georgia on some
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Speaker 2: really good teams. He's very talented, but he's had some
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Speaker 2: bad games and if you look, he's he threw the
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Speaker 2: second most interception or he has thrown the second most
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Speaker 2: interceptions of any quarterback in the ACC. Know, stats might
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Speaker 2: be a little skewed because he's played more games, but uh,
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Speaker 2: he's a guy that has been known to to make
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Speaker 2: some bad plays, and it will be up to Brian
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Speaker 2: Haynes and his defense to find some ways to to
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Speaker 2: get some bad plays, to get some turnovers on him,
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Speaker 2: because as you saw in the Oregon game, that was
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Speaker 2: the key reason where that was such a route. If
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Speaker 2: you get an interception on the first play and what
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Speaker 2: they're they recovered at least two other fumbles. I think
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Speaker 2: right that the blocked the punt that that was a
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Speaker 2: huge advantage for I us.
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Speaker 3: So I'd say I use ability.
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Speaker 2: To run the ball and their ability to make Carson
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Speaker 2: Beck uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: Is there any reason to think that I was going
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Speaker 1: to have any issue running the ball in this game
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Speaker 1: because we've seen them go up against other defenses and
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Speaker 1: they've been able to figure out. But is there any
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Speaker 1: is Miami's run defense on a different level from anything
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Speaker 1: any Indiana seen so far?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'll it's as good as they faced.
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Speaker 2: I mean, because they got a couple of guys that
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Speaker 2: are NFL guys.
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Speaker 3: They get a I don't.
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Speaker 1: Know their names, two defensive ends that are.
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Speaker 2: Right NFL guys. I got linebackers. I mean, if you
18:46
Speaker 2: go I hate doing this. If you go by the
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Speaker 2: recruiting rankings, Miami's got better talent according to what the
18:53
Speaker 2: recruiting people say. And if you go back to the preseason,
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Speaker 2: I think Miami was pretty much a consensus top seven,
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Speaker 2: maybe even a top five team. A lot of people
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Speaker 2: were picking them h to be in the playoff and
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Speaker 2: to do well. It was it was like Penn State, uh, Clemson, Miami,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know, maybe Georgia or Ohio State. Those
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Speaker 2: were the top five teams.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And they started out the year by beating Notre Dame,
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Speaker 2: and they had they beat Florida I think convincingly. They
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Speaker 2: they they beat South Florida convincingly after South Florida had
19:26
Speaker 2: started the season with a couple of impressive wins. And
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Speaker 2: then Miami lost that game to Louisville here and they
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Speaker 2: lost the game to SMU at SMU, I think one
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Speaker 2: of them was in overtime, and they lost.
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Speaker 1: The Louisville game. It was in Miami, I believe.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't Miami, that's right.
19:42
Speaker 1: And uh three four interceptions in that game.
19:45
Speaker 2: Right, So you know, people kind of got off the
19:48
Speaker 2: Miami bandwagon at that point. And really until the last
19:52
Speaker 2: week or two of the season, many people were projecting
19:56
Speaker 2: they weren't going to make the playoff and they only
19:57
Speaker 2: did make the playoff, uh uh, probably because Duke beat
20:01
Speaker 2: Virginia in the ACC championship game. If Virginia wins that game,
20:05
Speaker 2: Virginia goes as the ACC champ And I don't think
20:08
Speaker 2: the committee would have felt as obligated to put Miami in.
20:11
Speaker 2: They probably would have put Notre Dame in, but it
20:14
Speaker 2: didn't turn out that way. So then they go and
20:17
Speaker 2: you know, they stuffed Texas A and m what was
20:21
Speaker 2: that tend enough I don't even remember to three end
20:24
Speaker 2: of three, And then they stuffed Ohio State and then
20:28
Speaker 2: they you know, they outplayed Old miss statistically, the score
20:33
Speaker 2: was closer than the statistics were.
20:34
Speaker 3: But you know, they're a good team.
20:37
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, if if Indiana doesn't play its best football,
20:41
Speaker 2: Miami is certainly capable of winning.
20:45
Speaker 1: One of the things I've I've read a couple of
20:47
Speaker 1: different previous of this game that kind of mentioned keys
20:51
Speaker 1: for Miami is being able to stop Indiana getting getting
20:54
Speaker 1: from getting into so many third and manageable situations. It
20:57
Speaker 1: seems like every IU game I watched, these long sustained drives.
21:02
Speaker 1: Part of the reason they're able to do that is
21:03
Speaker 1: because every time it's third down, it's you know, third
21:05
Speaker 1: and three, third and four, they're in these manageable situations.
21:10
Speaker 1: Do you agree with with that being a key from
21:12
Speaker 1: the Miami side. And also I'm curious what you think
21:17
Speaker 1: about just the what the atmosphere is going to be
21:20
Speaker 1: like down there, because it's obviously much different than a
21:24
Speaker 1: it's in Miami Stadium, but it's not going to be
21:28
Speaker 1: a home game for them necessarily based on how the
21:30
Speaker 1: tickets are going to be allotted.
21:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, indiansibility to run the ball will be critical in
21:38
Speaker 2: terms of keeping them.
21:38
Speaker 3: Out of second law or third and long. For sure.
21:42
Speaker 2: I think Miami thrives on emotion. I think they thrive
21:47
Speaker 2: on intimidation. They thrive on trash talking, and that's they
21:51
Speaker 2: embrace that stuff. They you know, they want to come
21:54
Speaker 2: out on the field and think they're the baddest guys
21:57
Speaker 2: out there. They've been known to be penalized because of
22:00
Speaker 2: lack of discipline, and that could be a factor in
22:02
Speaker 2: the I use favor, but if you let them get rolling,
22:06
Speaker 2: they kind of feed on that stuff. So it'll be
22:08
Speaker 2: real important if they can't run the ball that they
22:11
Speaker 2: can protect Fernando Mendoza because I'm sure that Miami part
22:14
Speaker 2: of their plan will be the same thing which I
22:17
Speaker 2: thought Ohio State's plan was was like get to Mendoza
22:21
Speaker 2: as many times as you can, and even if you
22:22
Speaker 2: don't sack them, hit him and make the hits accumulate
22:27
Speaker 2: over the course.
22:28
Speaker 3: Of the game.
22:28
Speaker 2: And Ohio State did that as you remember in the
22:31
Speaker 2: first play of the game when Caden Curry flatten Mendoza
22:33
Speaker 2: and knocked him out for a play. And I think
22:35
Speaker 2: Miami will be trying to do everything they can to
22:38
Speaker 2: sort of intimidate Fernando Mendoza. And what was the second
22:42
Speaker 2: part of the questioning and.
22:44
Speaker 1: Just about the atmosphere or what it's could be like.
22:46
Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be pretty even. I mean,
22:50
Speaker 2: it's a seventy some thousand seat stadium and it's each
22:55
Speaker 2: school got twenty thousand tickets, so that only leaves thirty
22:58
Speaker 2: two thousand whatever tickets are on the secondary market. I
23:03
Speaker 2: guess some people from Miami might have bought some of
23:05
Speaker 2: them in advance because they knew the game was going to.
23:08
Speaker 3: Be played there.
23:08
Speaker 2: But as we've saw at Lucas Oil, as we saw
23:14
Speaker 2: at the Rose Bowl, and as we absolutely saw at
23:16
Speaker 2: the Peach Bowl, that there's a hunger for Indiana fans
23:23
Speaker 2: to embrace this team and this moment and this journey
23:28
Speaker 2: and I think there's gonna be a lot of au
23:30
Speaker 2: fans who are going to be buying these three thousand
23:33
Speaker 2: or four thousand dollars price tickets and being there because
23:35
Speaker 2: they want to say they were there to see it happen.
23:37
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna guess it's going to be pretty even
23:40
Speaker 2: in terms of the fan representation. It's not going to
23:42
Speaker 2: be a Miami home game in any way, shape or form.
23:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, going back to what you said in the first
23:49
Speaker 1: part of that last question, just about Ohio State gettingdo Mendoza.
23:53
Speaker 1: If you remember back to the first drive I think
23:56
Speaker 1: against Alabama, Alabama it seemed like they tried to do
24:01
Speaker 1: the same thing. Obviously Indiana made the adjustment, but if
24:03
Speaker 1: you remember that first drive against the Crimson Tin, I
24:06
Speaker 1: think Mendoza was sacked at least maybe once or twice
24:09
Speaker 1: on that opening drive. So do you think they're gonna
24:12
Speaker 1: try to get because you can't just let him stand
24:16
Speaker 1: back there obviously and pick you apart. So you're gonna
24:18
Speaker 1: have to try to take something away. And you know,
24:20
Speaker 1: maybe they have more confidence in their secondary guys to
24:24
Speaker 1: make some plays on the ball. And because as good
24:27
Speaker 1: as Mendoza has been in terms of his decision making.
24:29
Speaker 1: There have been moments. I think it was the Iowa
24:32
Speaker 1: game and the Oregon game.
24:33
Speaker 3: On the road.
24:34
Speaker 1: Both he did throw fourth quarter interceptions I believe in
24:36
Speaker 1: both of those games and had to come back and
24:38
Speaker 1: make a drive, so that that too will be interesting
24:41
Speaker 1: to me.
24:42
Speaker 3: You know.
24:42
Speaker 2: The danger in that, though, is that to me, Mendoza's
24:47
Speaker 2: number one quality is his intelligence, and I think he's
24:52
Speaker 2: amazing at going up to the line of scrimmage in
24:56
Speaker 2: knowing what defense he's facing and knowing where he can
25:01
Speaker 2: take advantage of it. And if he gets in a
25:06
Speaker 2: situation where he correctly reads a blitz and he knows
25:10
Speaker 2: which receiver has an edge on the man who's covering him,
25:15
Speaker 2: I've got tremendous belief that he'll take advantage of that
25:18
Speaker 2: because he's done it so consistently this year. That's his
25:22
Speaker 2: greatest attribute. I mean, you can just tell. You can
25:25
Speaker 2: see the signs on the periphery of him learning his
25:28
Speaker 2: degree from Callum two and a half years or whatever
25:30
Speaker 2: it was, and the way he talks in the words
25:32
Speaker 2: he uses on television. But he's a smart dude. And
25:35
Speaker 2: Signette's talked about how much time he spends in the
25:39
Speaker 2: film room, watching games and understanding what the opposing defense is,
25:43
Speaker 2: and it shows up on the field that he doesn't
25:47
Speaker 2: He's thrown those interceptions, but he doesn't make dumb plays
25:50
Speaker 2: or foolish plays, and what we also we don't know
25:53
Speaker 2: for sure, but he usually makes the correct read on
25:56
Speaker 2: things in terms of where the ball should go. And
25:59
Speaker 2: if he can do that for one more game, he'll
26:01
Speaker 2: find over the course of the game, he'll find a
26:04
Speaker 2: couple of spots to take advantage of that stuff. And
26:07
Speaker 2: that's I think that's one of Indiana's big advantages.
26:11
Speaker 1: No, I mean, that's the biggest compliment. I think there's
26:14
Speaker 1: a ton of compliments you can give this team, but
26:16
Speaker 1: this Indiana team over fifteen games, but they've they've never
26:20
Speaker 1: they've never beaten themselves. Right, if you're gonna beat them,
26:23
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do something above you know, what
26:27
Speaker 1: they're their level of play in order to beat them,
26:29
Speaker 1: because they're they're not gonna make mistakes. As you mentioned that,
26:31
Speaker 1: they're disciplined. They don't get a lot of penalties. And
26:34
Speaker 1: the most recent example of the Oregon game, I mean,
26:37
Speaker 1: for Oregon to come out and throw that pick six
26:40
Speaker 1: to start the game, and then the other fumble that
26:41
Speaker 1: Moore had where the running back kind of you know,
26:43
Speaker 1: ran by we was trying to throw the ball and knocked.
26:46
Speaker 1: Indiana doesn't do those kind of things. So if Miami
26:49
Speaker 1: is going to stand a chance to win the game,
26:52
Speaker 1: they're going to have to match Indiana's level of just
26:55
Speaker 1: being having things buttoned up and playing you know, a
26:58
Speaker 1: clean game. And who knows if they can do that
27:00
Speaker 1: out of course of sixty minutes. I think Indiana in
27:02
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. They can play a lot of
27:04
Speaker 1: different ways. They can obviously have explosive plays, but they
27:08
Speaker 1: can also you know, long sustained drives. It's not uncommon
27:13
Speaker 1: to see them go twelve thirteen, fourteen plays down the
27:16
Speaker 1: field and eat seven or eight minutes above the clock
27:18
Speaker 1: using both the run in the past. So there's a
27:21
Speaker 1: lot of That's what makes them such a great team
27:24
Speaker 1: is that, you know, they don't make mistakes, and there's
27:27
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways they can beat you. I'm
27:28
Speaker 1: not sure you can say the same thing about Miami.
27:32
Speaker 2: No, I don't know the numbers in terms of penalty
27:34
Speaker 2: yards per game each one averages, but I'm sure Indiana's
27:37
Speaker 2: is quite less and I'm sure they've made fewer turnovers,
27:39
Speaker 2: and yeah, that's been the strength of this team. That's
27:43
Speaker 2: the strength of this coaching staff, and that shows if
27:46
Speaker 2: they are well coached. It's no accident that, you know,
27:51
Speaker 2: the one coach that Signetti retained from Tom Allen's staff
27:55
Speaker 2: was Bob Bostad, the offensive line coach, and the job
27:57
Speaker 2: he's done, you know, I think he was there for
28:01
Speaker 2: one year before Signetti got there, but the job he's
28:05
Speaker 2: done building I use offensive line has been very impressive,
28:09
Speaker 2: and now only this year.
28:10
Speaker 3: I think the biggest.
28:12
Speaker 2: Step forward they've taken on the offensive line is they've
28:15
Speaker 2: got really seven guys. I mean they get they've got
28:18
Speaker 2: a couple, they've dealt with injuries and Evans and Benson
28:21
Speaker 2: and held up okay, And with seven guys, you can
28:24
Speaker 2: shift around a little bit and keep guys a little
28:28
Speaker 2: bit fresher for the most part, and I think that'll
28:32
Speaker 2: be critical against Miami and just have to keep doing that.
28:36
Speaker 2: There's always you never know, like I always think about
28:40
Speaker 2: like who who who's reughing this game? I've seen the
28:43
Speaker 2: name somewhere on some website, but like what conference are
28:46
Speaker 2: they from and how are they gonna call the game
28:49
Speaker 2: in terms of holding penalties or defensive pass interference penalties
28:54
Speaker 2: or things like that. Those those kind of things Canna
28:56
Speaker 2: can affect the game too, so that that'll be another factor.
29:01
Speaker 1: The other thing, I'm just assuming Indiana is able to
29:04
Speaker 1: finish the job and go to sixteen, And I'm really
29:06
Speaker 1: interested to see just Signetti in the aftermath of this,
29:09
Speaker 1: because it's been every game, you know, he's he's really
29:14
Speaker 1: never he's shown he's shown some emotion, you know, I
29:17
Speaker 1: think he did the whoo hoo hoosiers chin a couple
29:19
Speaker 1: of the post game on field celebrations, but it's always
29:24
Speaker 1: such a laser focus on the next thing that he
29:26
Speaker 1: can't ever really get caught up in the moment. I'm
29:28
Speaker 1: just curious to see if they are able to win,
29:31
Speaker 1: what how he reflects on what he's just accomplished, and
29:35
Speaker 1: if he kind of embraces, you know, what he's been
29:39
Speaker 1: able to achieve, because you know, part of what makes
29:42
Speaker 1: him great is staying in the moment and realizing, you know,
29:45
Speaker 1: there's another task ahead. But if if you go sixteen
29:48
Speaker 1: and oh and win the national Championship, it's gonna it'll
29:52
Speaker 1: be an interesting response just to see how he addresses
29:56
Speaker 1: that he's gonna have to soak up the moment and
29:58
Speaker 1: enjoy it for there for at least a couple of days.
30:00
Speaker 2: Oh, I think he'll embrace it a thousand percent. I
30:04
Speaker 2: mean he's gotten a little bit looser every step of
30:06
Speaker 2: the way. It was the rose Bolt where I think
30:09
Speaker 2: he said, and make a hell of a movie right
30:12
Speaker 2: in the last game. You know, for a long time
30:15
Speaker 2: when he did the chance with the fans, he was like,
30:18
Speaker 2: go Iu is what he said, and like it never
30:20
Speaker 2: really caught on, and I think somebody finally told him,
30:23
Speaker 2: you need to say who who Hoosiers?
30:24
Speaker 3: And he said it.
30:26
Speaker 2: You know, so he's he'll embrace it. He he I mean,
30:31
Speaker 2: this guy, his story, as much as IU football is
30:34
Speaker 2: an improbable story, he's an improbable story because he was
30:39
Speaker 2: sixty two years old when he got this chance. I mean,
30:42
Speaker 2: he was a he was gonna he was in a
30:46
Speaker 2: career path to being a career assistant coach, and he
30:50
Speaker 2: was so self confident that he could do better than
30:54
Speaker 2: that that you know, people really don't grasp where he went.
30:58
Speaker 2: He went to Indiana, Penn's Slovenia. I mean that would
31:01
Speaker 2: be like going to you know Earlham or Anderson College,
31:06
Speaker 2: and you know, and starting off there as a head
31:08
Speaker 2: coach or DePaul or whatever. I mean, it's it's it's
31:12
Speaker 2: improbable that he could. Then he went to Elon, then
31:15
Speaker 2: he went to James Madison and and then the first
31:19
Speaker 2: chance he gets to become a powerful coach is at
31:23
Speaker 2: the worst program imaginable. I mean, that's nobody else was.
31:26
Speaker 2: There was a lot of other jobs open that year.
31:28
Speaker 2: Nobody else was talking to him, So at some point
31:31
Speaker 2: it has to hit him and his whole you know,
31:34
Speaker 2: psychology and central nervous system of what he did.
31:36
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I think he I think he knows.
31:39
Speaker 1: I'm just more curious to see him actually display it outward,
31:43
Speaker 1: because you know.
31:43
Speaker 3: I think he will. I think because the players will
31:45
Speaker 3: make him.
31:47
Speaker 2: The players will be, you know, a dog, and Scott
31:50
Speaker 2: Dolson will be a dog and the assistant coach of staff.
31:53
Speaker 2: And yeah, no, he he does get it, because that's
31:55
Speaker 2: one of the most impressive things he did, in my opinion,
31:59
Speaker 2: was after they beat Ohio State in the Big Ten
32:02
Speaker 2: championship game, and I was listening to the postgame radio
32:06
Speaker 2: with Fish because I'm I'm really happy for Don Fisher
32:09
Speaker 2: he's getting to go through this because, like Bob Hamill,
32:12
Speaker 2: these guys covered year after year after year after year
32:16
Speaker 2: of disappointing and underachieving IU Football and Signetti took forever,
32:23
Speaker 2: and they kept extending the postgame radio show, and he
32:26
Speaker 2: finally came on with Fish for like five or ten minutes,
32:30
Speaker 2: and one of the things he said was how happy
32:32
Speaker 2: he was for Fish. So Signetti gets it, and I
32:35
Speaker 2: think I think you'll see a lot of emotion from it.
32:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope hopefully that's what we'll have to look
32:45
Speaker 1: forward to on Monday. Does it feel weird for you
32:49
Speaker 1: having such a big game like this that you would
32:51
Speaker 1: usually be on the spot covering and not being there?
32:55
Speaker 1: Is it a little bit?
32:59
Speaker 3: A little bit? You know?
33:01
Speaker 2: But I've watched It's the first time probably ever, I've
33:04
Speaker 2: watched every game.
33:06
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't missed a game because I've been home.
33:08
Speaker 3: I've watched them all on TV. Several of them. I've
33:11
Speaker 3: watched more than once.
33:13
Speaker 2: I've gone back and watched that drive in the Penn
33:15
Speaker 2: Date game at least five times to see how they
33:17
Speaker 2: did that. And as Signetti pointed out multiple times, and
33:22
Speaker 2: some people forget the first play on the.
33:24
Speaker 3: Drive was a sack.
33:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got backed up.
33:27
Speaker 2: Yeah they had to go eight. It was eighty seven
33:30
Speaker 2: yards I think it was. It was I think it
33:33
Speaker 2: was a seven yard sack and they did it, you know,
33:37
Speaker 2: and they were mean.
33:39
Speaker 1: The Iowa game, the fourth quarter, too, was another one
33:41
Speaker 1: where it was in the balance where they they've had
33:44
Speaker 1: so many moments the season where they've definitely if one
33:49
Speaker 1: or two things didn't go their way, they could have
33:51
Speaker 1: lost in the Iowa game. The same thing with an
33:53
Speaker 1: Oregon game. Obviously they won that game by ten, but
33:55
Speaker 1: there was some adversity in that game they've they've always
33:58
Speaker 1: been able to overcome.
33:59
Speaker 2: So to me, for Pivotal, the losing and the tradition
34:05
Speaker 2: and the not believing is so thoroughly baked into me
34:10
Speaker 2: that when I watched the first game of the year
34:13
Speaker 2: against Old Dominion and the first play of the year,
34:16
Speaker 2: the Old Dominion quarterback, I don't know if it was
34:18
Speaker 2: a called run or he broke off on the play
34:21
Speaker 2: and he ran right through the middle for like, I
34:23
Speaker 2: don't know, sixty yards for a touchdown. And I remember
34:26
Speaker 2: I texted my friend Ark Burke, who's he was at
34:30
Speaker 2: IU when they went to the Rose Bowl in the
34:32
Speaker 2: sixty seven to sixty eight season. It's like back to reality.
34:36
Speaker 2: You know, Old Dominion scored because it was only two
34:39
Speaker 2: years ago when they needed four overtimes to beat Akron.
34:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean that Old Dominion game was
34:45
Speaker 1: twenty seven to thirteen. I think a lot of people
34:46
Speaker 1: thought this team's not going to be very good. There's
34:49
Speaker 1: a running on our private community on inside the hall
34:53
Speaker 1: we have. There was a guy we like to give
34:56
Speaker 1: this thread still going on because it's been a running joke, Ballstez,
35:00
Speaker 1: and he made a thread after the first or second
35:02
Speaker 1: game about he wasn't sure that Mendoza was going to
35:04
Speaker 1: start the whole season based on what he saw in
35:07
Speaker 1: the first couple of games. And it's like now every
35:09
Speaker 1: after every game after he wins the Highs and people
35:11
Speaker 1: like you still think Mendoza is not going to start.
35:13
Speaker 1: But it's not like this team came out of the
35:16
Speaker 1: gate with a top five ranking or all these expectations.
35:22
Speaker 1: Because I remember I was I was tracking the polar
35:24
Speaker 1: in the season, doing a post every week on the
35:26
Speaker 1: site about where they're moving. I remember they moved down
35:28
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks and it was like, oh,
35:30
Speaker 1: you know, they've only beat Old Dominion twenty seven. They
35:33
Speaker 1: had a closer game with Old Dominion than they did
35:36
Speaker 1: Oregon and Alabama and several other teams.
35:39
Speaker 3: And the Kansaw game was close for a while, I think.
35:42
Speaker 1: Right right, Yeah, Indiana State they rushed obviously, but.
35:45
Speaker 3: They blew Indiana stayed out and then Iowa was They
35:49
Speaker 3: won by less than a touchdown, right, I think they.
35:51
Speaker 1: Did, Yeah, less than a touchdown and a fourth and
35:54
Speaker 1: iOS quarterback got hurt that fourth quarter, and you know,
35:57
Speaker 1: in many ways, I talked to Tyler about this a
35:59
Speaker 1: little bit yesterday. Iowa was a team that matched up
36:02
Speaker 1: really well with them because they are to a lesser
36:07
Speaker 1: extent obviously than Indiana, but they're another team that really
36:10
Speaker 1: doesn't beat themselves. You have to beat them. And Mendoza
36:12
Speaker 1: made the throws in that fourth quarter to get them
36:15
Speaker 1: that drive and that game winning touchdown. But yeah, they
36:18
Speaker 1: thrive off other people's mistakes, and they're not gonna If
36:22
Speaker 1: you're waiting for them to blink and make a mistake,
36:24
Speaker 1: you're gonna be waiting a long time because they've They've
36:26
Speaker 1: done it fifteen games in a row. So we'll see
36:28
Speaker 1: how it goes on Monday. I'm looking forward to watching it.
36:30
Speaker 1: We'll have Josh Po's of Inside the Hall, he's actually
36:32
Speaker 1: flying down today. Jamie Owens from Inside the Hall is
36:36
Speaker 1: also making the trip down to take photos from the sidelines,
36:41
Speaker 1: and so we'll have coverage all weekend and leading into
36:44
Speaker 1: next week on the site as well. Obviously a basketball
36:47
Speaker 1: game as well, but all eyes on football for now.
36:49
Speaker 1: With the Indiana fan based understandable. What a run happy
36:53
Speaker 1: for you, someone who's followed IU football as long as
36:57
Speaker 1: you had watched a lot of bad football, for all
37:00
Speaker 1: the other fans who've stuck with this program for such
37:03
Speaker 1: a long time. And hopefully the Hoosiers are able to
37:06
Speaker 1: go down there, take care of business and win their
37:08
Speaker 1: first national championship, it'd be quite the story.
37:11
Speaker 3: Uh, it's be incomprehensible. It is the word I've used
37:15
Speaker 3: with everybody. It's incomprehensible.
37:17
Speaker 2: And I know IU fans pretty much any generation, and
37:22
Speaker 2: they all have stories about AU football of you know,
37:25
Speaker 2: going to the tailgates but not going to the games,
37:27
Speaker 2: leaving at halftime, being there, when being there when you
37:32
Speaker 2: know they played Michigan in overtime and thought they were
37:35
Speaker 2: going to win, but they couldn't if I mentioned the
37:37
Speaker 2: Anthony Carter game. People who watched IU football remember what
37:42
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. And it's it's just.
37:47
Speaker 1: I went to saw him as a student when I
37:48
Speaker 1: was there for a couple of falls, and it was
37:51
Speaker 1: no atmosphere, not much to write home about. People were
37:55
Speaker 1: after the first quarter or second quarter heading back over
37:57
Speaker 1: to the tailgate lots.
37:59
Speaker 2: I mean, he wrote about it in the story he
38:01
Speaker 2: wrote when he quoted me that I My thing was,
38:04
Speaker 2: I'd usually go to games and by mid October they'd
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Speaker 2: be like two and three and they'd make a bad
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Speaker 2: play and the game was over, and I'd go like this, like,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're turning over to basketball season now football
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Speaker 2: season's over, and not anymore. It's there. They're real. There's nothing,
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Speaker 2: there's nothing fluky about this. Not one of their wins
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Speaker 2: has been a fluke, not by they weren't given a
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Speaker 2: gift by the refs, they didn't make a trick play.
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Speaker 2: Every win that they've gotten has been earned, and that's
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Speaker 2: a tremendous that's a credit to it. Just amazing coaching job,
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Speaker 2: that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: I think it's so inexplicable to some people too. It's
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Speaker 1: just like they're trying to figure out ways like how
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Speaker 1: this happened. And I even saw a story mentioned this,
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Speaker 1: I think with Tyler yesterday a couple of months ago
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Speaker 1: on ESPN, like trying to find the programs, trying to
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Speaker 1: find the next Kurt Signetti. I'm like, there's not another
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Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti. You can keep trying to look, but there's
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Speaker 1: not another one. I mean, you can to hire a
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Speaker 1: great coach. But this is again when he said, you know,
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Speaker 1: it would make a great movie. It could very well
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Speaker 1: make a really good movie someday. It'll be interesting to
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Speaker 1: see how that all goes about. And again, more than anything,
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Speaker 1: you hope they finished a job. Just so there's not
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Speaker 1: one thing that anybody can say about the season to
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Speaker 1: go sixteen and no, I think they'd be the first
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Speaker 1: team in college football since Yale in eighteen ninety four.
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Speaker 1: And I'm I'm not sure Yale was playing the schedule
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Speaker 1: Indiana was to go unbeaten, So it'll be quite the accomplishment.
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Speaker 2: No, it'd be I don't know when they start ordering
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Speaker 2: the statues or whatever, but yeah, it's I'm sure they'll
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Speaker 2: have I would think win or lose that they're probably
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Speaker 2: gonna have some kind of public celebration in Memorial Stadium.
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Speaker 2: I think probably, I would think it.
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Speaker 1: When they need to have a parade through Bloomington, it could.
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Speaker 2: I imagine they'll have a big celebration of Memorial Stadium
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Speaker 2: the following weekend. That'd be my guests inside the stadium.
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Speaker 2: That's what they need to do and win or lose.
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Speaker 2: I think they'll do that.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I need to bring the football team
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Speaker 1: out to the center court during time out to the
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Speaker 1: basketball games game. It's some atmosphere in the building.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, have Mindoza bring out his heisman or whatever. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: they need to basketball. Both basketball teams could use the
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Speaker 2: help for sure.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, thanks thanks for taking the time. Enjoy
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Speaker 1: talking about hopefully not talking about a loss, but either
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