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Put a Ring on It · Sex Advice for Seniors Podcast

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SPEAKER_03: This week's episode has been sponsored by Oh My Bod, shifting the evolution of pleasure
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SPEAKER_03: Hello, I'm Suzanne and I'm Zoe and you are listening to Sex Advice for Seniors and we are incredibly excited today to be joined.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited Suzanne.
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SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk about penises and men's health.
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SPEAKER_03: We are one of our favorite topics with Dr. Elliot Justin, who is from FirmTech.
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SPEAKER_03: And Elliot, welcome.
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SPEAKER_03: So glad to have you with us.
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SPEAKER_02: Great to be here.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: Great.
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SPEAKER_03: So tell us a little bit about your background and yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, my background, I'm an emergency medicine physician.
1:02
SPEAKER_00: And as we were discussing earlier, short of a heart attack or a stroke, nothing concerns a man as much as a limp dick.
1:09
SPEAKER_00: So I'm seven years old.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm fortunate to be in good health.
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SPEAKER_00: I can make love every day.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I really hadn't thought much about this issue.
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SPEAKER_00: But I was aware that it's alarming to many men because the numbers are really distressing.
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SPEAKER_00: 50% of men by age 50 have rectal dysfunction.
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SPEAKER_00: By my age, it's a little bit over 70%.
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SPEAKER_00: And there are so many common causes of it.
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SPEAKER_00: Diabetes, hypertension,
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SPEAKER_00: on it.
2:06
SPEAKER_00: You're probably making the blood pressure worse.
2:07
SPEAKER_00: You're probably making the depression worse as well too.
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SPEAKER_00: Doctors, we are kind of assholes about this.
2:13
SPEAKER_00: I assume in the UK, just like in the US.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't ask about someone's sexual health.
2:17
SPEAKER_00: I've never had a doctor ask me about my sexual health, the status of my marriage, warn me about the sexual side effects of a medication or a procedure.
2:28
SPEAKER_00: So we as doctors need to pay much more attention to these issues.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: So about three years ago,
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SPEAKER_00: I was involved with medical technology.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm very interested in wearables.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: Many, many years ago, I founded a company called SwiftMD that was the second oldest telehealth company in the United States.
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SPEAKER_00: It's been sold since then.
2:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm interested in tools that can be used to manage people's health at home.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm also really interested in providing people with the knowledge that physicians should have but empowering people with that knowledge because people aren't motivated by secondary gain.
3:04
SPEAKER_00: They don't want to bring you into business.
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SPEAKER_00: They don't want to do surgery to you.
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SPEAKER_00: We want more information about our bodies, especially in this area.
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SPEAKER_00: So we live in this wonderful age of healthcare wearables, smart watches, smart rings, smart bands, but there's a gap, which is sex.
3:23
SPEAKER_00: So when I talk about sexual health gap, I'm not talking about novelties.
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SPEAKER_00: A novelty to my mind is, Suzanne, you didn't know this, but Zoe and I are having an affair.
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SPEAKER_00: Put a Ring on It
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SPEAKER_00: or Diet, Exercise and Supplements because when we're ignorant, we have hopes and we're the hopes are dopes and it's a multi, multi-billion dollar international industry whether it's illegal rhino horn in China or whether it's nitric oxide pills, all these pills that are sold over the counter to improve men's and women's female sexual health.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't, especially after COVID, don't particularly trust the conventional doctors.
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SPEAKER_00: We've been scammed badly.
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SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't mean that the naturopaths or homeopaths are offering things that are particularly objective either.
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SPEAKER_00: So there's importance of data.
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SPEAKER_00: So three years ago, a urology professor at the University of Utah said he wants to come up with a way of counting the number of nocturnal erections that men have.
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SPEAKER_00: And I thought,
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SPEAKER_00: Put a Ring on It
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SPEAKER_00: People track their blood sugar, they track their blood pressure, and what do men care more about after all?
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SPEAKER_00: The status of their erections or how many steps they took yesterday or what their weight is.
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SPEAKER_00: So when he said this to me, I thought, well, nocturnal erections, we can do better than that.
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SPEAKER_00: Because what men and their partners are really interested in is what's going on when trying to have sex.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's...
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SPEAKER_00: So I said, well, let's come up with a ring.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: Let's embed sensors into a cock ring.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And let's come up with the world's first smart cock ring.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, it has to be different than any other cock ring.
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SPEAKER_00: Because cock rings right now, this is, you know, I mean, women like to complain there's not enough attention paid to them.
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SPEAKER_00: on It
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SPEAKER_00: The problem with cock rings is that they've been made the same way for 150 years.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a hard silicone ring.
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SPEAKER_00: It's essentially a noose or a gasket, like you're lynching your dick or you're putting a plumbing apparatus on the penis.
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SPEAKER_00: So a man has to have, now we're getting into the common problem with seniors, you have to have an erection first for these rings.
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SPEAKER_00: You have to get blood in.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, a lot of older people have trouble getting blood in because they're diabetic, they're hypertensive, they have a higher incidence of performance anxiety.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you had a ring that did not block the arterial flow, but only constrained the venous return, you then would have a ring that could be put on discreetly.
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SPEAKER_00: Or even more importantly, it could be worn for longer sex sessions.
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SPEAKER_00: Because another problem with these hard, cheap rings you get in a sex toy store is that they really, after 5 or 10 minutes, 15, 20 minutes, they get uncomfortable.
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SPEAKER_00: And they can be dangerous, especially dangerous in men of high blood pressure, diabetes, after like 20, 30 minutes.
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SPEAKER_00: You want the damn thing off as well.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, men will put up with pain.
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SPEAKER_00: because a guy with a hard-on, you'd probably stab him in the back and he'd probably keep on thrusting.
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SPEAKER_00: But they're really uncomfortable and they're made the same stupid way.
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SPEAKER_00: So my thought was we have to change the form.
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SPEAKER_00: Before we embed the senses, we have to change the form and the material.
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SPEAKER_00: So I really have to thank my wife for this.
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SPEAKER_00: She has a stress ball on her desk and I thought, oh, why are we making cock rings out of silicone?
8:18
SPEAKER_00: Let's make them out of elastomer.
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SPEAKER_00: Elastomers are soft.
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SPEAKER_00: The great thing about elastomers over silicone, and women understand this more than men do, women wear bras.
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SPEAKER_00: Bras have a silicone strip on the back.
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SPEAKER_00: That gets to be uncomfortable.
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SPEAKER_00: At the end of the day, you want that thing off.
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SPEAKER_00: Imagine, Zoe and Suzanne, if you were asked to put on a bra that was three sizes or four sizes too small.
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SPEAKER_00: You would say, get this fucking thing off me right now.
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SPEAKER_00: This is getting me out of this.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, that's what a cock ring made out of silicone is.
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SPEAKER_00: It's essentially a silicone band that's too small.
8:51
SPEAKER_00: I was scratching my wife's back after she took a bra.
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SPEAKER_00: I would say probably half the heterosexual sex in the world starts at night when a woman wants a back scratch when she takes off her bra.
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SPEAKER_00: And then I noticed this incredibly feature on the bra, a hook.
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SPEAKER_00: And I thought, oh, duh.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, a bra, women don't put on bras over their head.
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SPEAKER_00: Women don't put on bras over their head.
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SPEAKER_00: A bra is a ring that opens and closes with a hook.
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SPEAKER_03: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: And I thought, why don't we make a cock ring on the hook?
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SPEAKER_00: Because then it's easy on, easy off.
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SPEAKER_00: It's safe.
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SPEAKER_00: And then if we make it out of a soft elastomer, it could be worn for hours.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's the origin of
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SPEAKER_00: Put a Ring on It
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SPEAKER_00: It goes on differently.
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SPEAKER_00: The man drops his balls into it.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't have a dildo here, I should.
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SPEAKER_00: Penis is in one end, testicles are in the other end.
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SPEAKER_00: So worn overnight, we count the number of nocturnal erections.
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SPEAKER_00: And I said before, that's a leading indicator.
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SPEAKER_00: So leading indicator is a really powerful statement to make in medicine.
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SPEAKER_00: Blood pressure is associated with heart attacks and strokes.
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SPEAKER_00: Nocturnal erections indicate whether you're going to have one.
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SPEAKER_00: Put a Ring on It
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, it looks like, because we don't have video, we don't use video on our podcast, but it looks like, no, no, you can show us anyway.
11:06
SPEAKER_03: Maybe we'll do something, but it looks like a bit of a Fitbit.
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SPEAKER_03: I have a Fitbit.
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SPEAKER_03: It's a, what did we just call it?
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SPEAKER_00: A Fitbit.
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SPEAKER_03: And is that from the pressure of the penis against this?
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SPEAKER_00: Against the sensors.
11:49
SPEAKER_03: Oh, against the sensor.
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SPEAKER_00: Against the sensors, correct.
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SPEAKER_03: What you're saying.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And then we provide people with, we call it an erectile fitness score.
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SPEAKER_00: Because before there's dysfunction, there's fitness.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: And we want people to think in terms of fitness.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't have ED.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like my sexuality where it is.
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SPEAKER_00: How can I keep it where it is?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, data helps.
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SPEAKER_00: I do have ED.
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SPEAKER_00: Or I've just started a medication.
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SPEAKER_00: What's going on?
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SPEAKER_00: How's this medication?
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, if you have data, you can then... We're giving people objective, personalized information.
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SPEAKER_00: So one of the ways in which doctors, again, are dicks is if the three of us on this call decided we had depression and we went to see our family doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist, they would put us on the same dose of antidepressant medication.
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SPEAKER_00: Put a Ring on It
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SPEAKER_00: And can I ask
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SPEAKER_03: How long do they have to wear this for?
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SPEAKER_03: Is it something that they wear every day?
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SPEAKER_03: Or is it something they wear once a week?
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SPEAKER_03: How often do you advise using it to track your nocturnal erections and to then discover where you are on the nocturnal erection spectrum?
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SPEAKER_03: That was bloody difficult to say there.
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SPEAKER_03: Nocturnal erection spectrum spectrum.
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SPEAKER_00: We recommend that people initially wear it for four nights.
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SPEAKER_00: It takes about four nights.
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SPEAKER_00: The senses need to calibrate to the individual penis and that's four nights.
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SPEAKER_00: We give people a score.
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SPEAKER_00: And after that, obviously if you're starting a new medication or you have a new partner or you're wondering about the impact of whatever, a recreational drug or the impact of some supplement, you can take more readings.
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SPEAKER_00: But I'm in good health, so our recommendation is to have the initial four readings.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're normal, it depends upon your age.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm 70 years old.
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SPEAKER_00: I check my blood pressure once a week.
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SPEAKER_00: I check my erectile fitness score once a week.
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SPEAKER_00: If I were 45 years old, I might do it once a month.
15:10
SPEAKER_00: This is fascinating.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, it's world's first technology.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, there are four papers that have been accepted for publication.
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SPEAKER_00: There are another five or six papers that will come out this year or early next year.
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SPEAKER_00: This will become, I believe, the standard of care.
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SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily our device, but the data will become the standard of care.
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SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, for example, if all three of us on this call went to a doctor and said, you know, my pulse feels irregular.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I feel like I'm going to faint.
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SPEAKER_00: And the doctor just put a finger on our pulse and listened to the stethoscope, we'd think,
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SPEAKER_00: What the fuck is this, 1880?
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I want an electrocardiogram, check my blood pressure, how about a CT angiogram?
16:13
SPEAKER_00: But that's where we are with gynecology and sexology, gynecology and urology when it comes to sexual health.
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SPEAKER_00: Most of what we do is based on opinions and speculation rather than objective data.
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SPEAKER_00: So at both extremes, let's take both extremes of this.
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SPEAKER_00: If a man is having an
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SPEAKER_00: on it.
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SPEAKER_00: So this information can be both destructive in a relationship or very helpful in a relationship because it helps a couple or an individual to better understand what's happening.
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SPEAKER_01: Here I am to help the people who are medically sound having trouble in their relationships that are affecting sex.
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SPEAKER_01: And sometimes it's not even the relationship, it's the actual sex that they're having because pornography is our de facto sex education.
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SPEAKER_01: And that leaves a lot to be desired in how the kind of sex that we're actually having.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, pornography certainly can dilute people as to what's going on.
17:52
SPEAKER_00: It's not an HP world out there.
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SPEAKER_00: But in terms of older people, and I call on my patients, but they're really my customers, but I've spoken to more people about, more older people especially, about sex in the last year and a half than I have the entire rest of my life.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's clear to me, one, that they're not telling their doctors what's going on with them.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Because the things that people talk about are, I get an erection and I lose it.
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SPEAKER_00: So most men's problem is not that they can't get it up, it's that they lose it.
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SPEAKER_00: And they lose it because they have, I call it venous insufficiency.
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SPEAKER_00: So doctors think about venous leak syndrome, which is something men are born with, where you have weak veins and you can't get blood in the penis, but it doesn't stay there.
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SPEAKER_00: But every man, frankly every woman too, and we all get venous insufficiency as we get older.
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SPEAKER_00: If I sit in a plane for five hours to the desk for four or five hours, my socks will get a little bit tight.
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SPEAKER_00: My fingers will swell a little bit if I dangle my arms.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm older.
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SPEAKER_00: So we have muscles, tiny little muscles around our venules, little veins, that pump blood back to our heart, and they weaken with age, and the veins get baggier as a consequence.
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SPEAKER_00: One of the problems with doctors, doctors just don't listen though.
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SPEAKER_00: And you see in the medical research too.
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SPEAKER_00: When medical research on ED groups together as ED, men who can't attain with men who can't sustain.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, men who can't attain erection have much more severe problem and they need a different type of help.
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SPEAKER_00: Men who can't sustain erection, one needs to think about why is that?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, one, you're getting older.
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SPEAKER_00: 2.
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SPEAKER_00: What medications might be contributing to that?
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3.
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SPEAKER_00: What's going on in the relationship?
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SPEAKER_00: People don't want to talk about boredom.
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SPEAKER_00: So why do people go to porn?
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SPEAKER_00: One reason is they're bored.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, couples need to talk about this because when they put off sex because they've lost confidence, they're bored, whatever, you can talk your way through that.
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SPEAKER_00: So what's great about our ring?
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SPEAKER_00: and in fact it's changed it's changed our marriage I'll personalize it so my wife is 70 years old as well too and we we make love differently now because because of the ring we don't we don't have sex without the ring not the ring with the data we make a ring we make another product called a maximum performance ring or Max PR well this is the only doctor designed ring it's a little bit tighter than the ring with the technology this is the only doctor designed ring
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SPEAKER_00: to gear to both to help a man sustain an erection but also produce more powerful orgasm.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll talk about sustaining in a moment.
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SPEAKER_00: So we looked at 22 men, age 27, age 70.
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SPEAKER_00: And we wanted, again, we didn't want to block the arterial flow in, which might constrain the venous return.
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SPEAKER_00: And we compared our ring, maximum performance ring, to Tadalafil, which is the most common PD-5, Viagra-type medication.
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SPEAKER_00: in the United States
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SPEAKER_00: His primary problem is not getting blood into the penis.
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SPEAKER_00: It's deep in the blood there.
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SPEAKER_00: And PD-5 medications are not particularly effective at doing that.
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SPEAKER_00: So about half the people who take PD-5 medications say they don't work.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, not that they don't work.
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SPEAKER_00: The guy is, they don't, you know, they need them.
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SPEAKER_00: So we did a study of D2 medicines.
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SPEAKER_00: D2 medicines, two medicines at a time to get an erection.
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SPEAKER_00: D2 medicines at a time it takes to lose an erection.
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SPEAKER_00: And we looked at
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SPEAKER_00: after climax no stimulation because we want to try to eliminate as many variables as possible so the time it takes for erection to go down is about 35 seconds 25-35 seconds in an average man the time it takes for an erection to go down with the dalafil 10 milligrams was a little bit over 2 minutes and when I say to go down I mean penetration is impossible too soft to penetrate with the maximum performance ring is a little bit over 4 minutes
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SPEAKER_00: and with a ring it's doubtful together it was a little over five minutes so the longer the erection takes to go down the more blood is being retained in the penis the more blood is being retained in the penis the more sensation that a man has because the more blood same thing with women the more blood is retained the more sensation there is so what's and there's going to be one or two papers about addressing this utilizing our device this year what's the takeaway from this well the takeaway is men if you want to
23:08
SPEAKER_00: Put a fucking ring on it and take a pill and then for the most pleasure take a pill as well so in our lifetimes you ladies look a little bit younger than me but it's really our lifetime our generation vibrators went mainstream
23:36
SPEAKER_00: My mother's vibrator was in the bottom dresser drawer of the supply closet.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, and she told me to never find it.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: We didn't know what the fuck it was.
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SPEAKER_00: She said it was a massager, you know, whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't remember what she said.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: But my, you know, my wife, probably like you ladies, owns, I don't know how much she owns, but she, and she varies what her favorites are because the market is really addressed.
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SPEAKER_00: If you want to rumble, you want to buzz, you want this shape, you want that shape.
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SPEAKER_00: The market, the vibrator market is enormous.
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SPEAKER_00: And they've got,
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SPEAKER_00: They're mainstream.
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SPEAKER_00: And our daughter, her generation, they take them on dates.
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SPEAKER_00: So back in the 70s or 80s, there was a certain shame about using a vibrator.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's not the case at all right now.
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SPEAKER_00: They're normalized.
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SPEAKER_00: That hasn't happened with cock rings.
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SPEAKER_00: Cock rings are still in the closet.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know if that's true.
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SPEAKER_03: They're definitely in my closet.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's funny because I'm living in the Grand Canaries and I brought with me just these little stretchy, they're like silicon, but they're stretchy, right?
24:48
SPEAKER_03: And they're a ring and they're super easy to go on and stuff like that.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: And
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SPEAKER_03: Now I've tried them a couple of times with some people and they're like, can I take this home with me?
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SPEAKER_02: Sure, yes.
25:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, yes, of course you can because it was like 20 cents and you can have that.
25:08
SPEAKER_03: It is my gift to you.
25:09
SPEAKER_03: But it, you know, I...
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SPEAKER_03: They're not embarrassed using it is the point, right?
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SPEAKER_03: So I think rings have gone away from being embarrassing, certainly within the kink community that have been around for a long time.
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SPEAKER_03: And I think there's a certain element amongst older men that are now recognizing the benefits of using ring for just keeping the blood in there without going, as you say.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm, you know,
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SPEAKER_03: Put a Ring on It
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SPEAKER_03: No, the ring, the power ring, that's the different one from the other one.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, the Max PR.
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SPEAKER_03: The Max PR, like what is it, what's it actually doing to give it that extra?
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SPEAKER_00: It's the right amount of pressure over the urethra.
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SPEAKER_00: So we, again, our goal was to increase the ejaculatory phase by 50%.
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SPEAKER_00: No one has ever, I mean, one of our distributors in the United States is Doc Johnson, the largest sex law distributor in the United States, maybe the world.
26:28
SPEAKER_00: And we also have worked with ECOM, E-Q-O-M.
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SPEAKER_00: They're in the Netherlands.
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SPEAKER_00: They're an enormous sex toy distributor.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: And none of the rings that they're selling have ever been tested material-wise to generate, to increase the ejaculatory phase.
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SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, you can achieve that effect with other rings, but you have to play around with it.
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SPEAKER_00: Whereas ours is actually tested on men for the right degree, if you will, of stretch, you know,
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SPEAKER_00: Put a Ring on
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SPEAKER_00: So that's what's special about the maximum performance ring.
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SPEAKER_00: It also has the same hook feature that the regular ring does.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's also a penis scrotal ring.
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SPEAKER_00: Because one of our goals is, so with the simple rings, they have no impact on the testicles.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: But the testicles are actually a secondary erogenous zone.
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SPEAKER_00: What happens to balls during sex?
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SPEAKER_00: They're up, they're down, they're here, they're there.
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SPEAKER_00: Where the fuck are they?
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SPEAKER_00: What does a man want with balls during sex?
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SPEAKER_00: We'd like them to be caressed or stroked.
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SPEAKER_00: Same thing a partner wants with balls during sex.
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SPEAKER_00: So our ring not only goes around the base of the shaft of the penis, but it goes around the top of the testicles.
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SPEAKER_00: So going around the top of the testicles, we accomplish three things.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: One, we hold a little bit more blood in the testicles.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: Two, that means that if I hold more blood, they're now more sensitive to touch.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: Three, they're in a consistent location for someone to grab.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: So my wife calls it a bra for balls for that reason.
28:17
SPEAKER_01: Broke.
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SPEAKER_01: Broke.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: I'm a big fan of the scrotum.
28:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Zoe loves the scrotum.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: She's a scrotum lover.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: But otherwise, without a ring, without a ring on top of the testicles, they can be inside, outside.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: And so, you think about, well, look, women who are...
28:45
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29:10
SPEAKER_00: You should get a Max PR.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: You two are going to love it.
29:14
SPEAKER_03: I know what I was going to say.
29:15
SPEAKER_03: What I was going to say was that when, you know, when as an older person, you've got, you potentially have a heart disease or high blood pressure, low blood pressure.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: Often, you know, I speak on, I remember my father, I think it was, and I think my mother as well.
29:32
SPEAKER_03: They were sent home with patches that were connected to
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SPEAKER_03: The thing about your firm tech device is that why are the doctors not sending men home with this, right?
30:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about it.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about this one.
30:22
SPEAKER_03: No, but to me it's like where the market is, the biggest potential market is
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SPEAKER_03: This is a clear indicator of potentially you're at risk.
31:01
SPEAKER_03: And we can sort this out before it happens.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: This is the future.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: Suzanne, this is the future as I envision it.
31:08
SPEAKER_03: This is the future.
31:10
SPEAKER_03: For me, this is like it's a lovely consumer product.
31:12
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: Don't get me wrong.
31:13
SPEAKER_03: But for me, this is every hospital needs to be giving these to men to be going to them
31:20
SPEAKER_03: Put a Ring on It
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32:05
SPEAKER_03: in new situations where I know that they should be you know where I can they're older guys and stuff and stuff's happening I I think about that I'm like you've spoken about that you know yeah well two things one you know uh the I think this is like a sixth vital sign and I am confident that
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SPEAKER_00: within two or three years.
32:33
SPEAKER_00: So we have all this research that's going to be published.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: We've been to the European Society of Sexual Medicine show now twice.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: We'll be back in May for the European Federation of Sexology.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: We'll be at the American Urology Association this spring as well, too.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: We're publicizing it.
32:50
SPEAKER_00: But the research is more important.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: As the research gets published, as doctors speak at the podium about our device, and they are starting to do it, this will become a standard of care.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: and a standard for research as well.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: And it's going, so just the way, as I said before, if you went to a doctor, they didn't check your blood pressure and get a cardiogram and think, you know, what is this?
33:11
SPEAKER_00: It's going to be the same way.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: And it's going to be the same way for women too because we developed a device for women as well.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: We're talking about men here.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: But we have developed a device.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: We've tested on 38 women to measure the health of the clitoris.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: And the health of the clitoris,
33:24
SPEAKER_00: Men and women are actually, there are ways in which we're different and there are ways in which we're similar.
33:28
SPEAKER_00: And there's so many ways in which our sexual organs are analogous.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: Women have nocturnal arousal.
33:36
SPEAKER_00: No one really since Master Johnson has quantified it.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: So we don't really know.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming it's going to be just like men.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming that women are going to have, I'll make it up, three to five episodes of arousal while they're sleeping.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: And that number is going to be predictive or revelatory of the cardiovascular health or the reaction to medications.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: So postmenopausal women lose their hormonal protection against atherosclerosis, diabetes, hypertension.
34:03
SPEAKER_00: They have all the same problems that men do.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: Premenopausal women have problems that men don't have and they're pharmacology related.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: They take antidepressants four times, five times as much as men do.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: and they also take hormones for birth control and both those things kill us with sexual pleasure and no one knows what the right again no one knows the right doses so if women had data they could then hopefully get the benefit of these medicines without the side effects or frankly just the side I'm going to live without it because the impact on my sexuality is so obvious why would I take something that's killing my sexual performance
34:46
SPEAKER_00: So this area of extreme anxiety, especially for younger women, difficulty having orgasm, I think it's going to be largely resolvable once people objectively see the impact of these medications on them.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: Or once they, in a relationship, can sort out, well, is it him or me?
35:14
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35:42
SPEAKER_00: The value of the ring itself, and you get this Suzanne, obviously, it's so important to put a ring on it.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
35:51
SPEAKER_03: Put a ring on it.
35:52
SPEAKER_03: Who's it that said that?
35:58
SPEAKER_00: I think people just celebrate their partnership or wedding anniversaries by taking a knee and putting a ring on it.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, where can people find your more to learn more about the device, about you?
36:14
SPEAKER_01: Where can people find you?
36:15
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: You can find us, me at MyFirmTech, M-Y-F-I-R-M-T-E-C-H, MyFirmTech.com.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: You can reach me directly there.
36:26
SPEAKER_00: It's Elliot, E-L-L-I-O-T at MyFirmTech.com.
36:30
SPEAKER_00: And to any listeners of your podcast, if you use the promo code, I Know Elliot, I not know,
36:37
SPEAKER_00: I-K-N-O-W-E-L-L-I-O-T 1-T, not the British spelling.
36:42
SPEAKER_00: This is a 20% discount.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm happy to talk to people about their issues.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: One thing that we didn't get to is prostate disease.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: When we talk about sex and the elderly, we need to recognize that a significant number of men have prostate disease.
37:01
SPEAKER_00: When these men get operated on, it's
37:05
SPEAKER_00: It's a killer.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: So 40 to 80% of men who operate on are impotent after surgery.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: And the recovery period is protracted.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: It can take one to two years for men to recover.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: And most men don't recover unless they do their exercises, take their medications, pump, etc.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: Many men give up.
37:25
SPEAKER_00: So our device is really valuable for these men for two reasons.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: One, they can see that they're recovering with nocturnal erections before they experience their recovery.
37:35
SPEAKER_00: in Bed.
37:37
SPEAKER_00: We have men and doctors who utilize the device for that purpose.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: There's also a specific messy problem after prostate surgery called climacteria that I never heard of until I had men call me up and tell me they were using our ring for climacteria, which men, they urinate when they climax, which is kind of bedroom unfriendly, unless you're really kinky.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: I guess if you're really kinky, that's okay, but it's kind of bedroom unfriendly.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: So there's a woman in Australia who's doing a paper utilizing our ring for this very purpose, and she finds it to be effective 95% of the time.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: The climacteria resolves when men have our ring on.
38:17
SPEAKER_00: They like our ring because our ring is soft and comfortable.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: And also, older people like to have sex for longer periods of time.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: That's why I talk to sexologists or urologists about how, well, the average man comes in seven minutes.
38:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm not talking about a seven-year-old man.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: And frankly, you're not
38:33
SPEAKER_00: So it's the same thing with when I say the average woman comes in 14 minutes.
38:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, you're not talking about a 70-year-old woman either.
38:42
SPEAKER_03: So the great thing about the ring... In my dreams.
38:50
SPEAKER_03: 140 minutes, maybe.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, also, you want... Why would you want to just come in seven minutes?
38:58
SPEAKER_00: That's like having hors d'oeuvres.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm done.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: And that gets to actually another point I'd like to discuss, and I'm certain you women would agree with me, which is that people need, especially older people, to plan for pleasure.
39:12
SPEAKER_00: Younger people too, but younger people, to plan for pleasure.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: If you're in a long-term relationship and you rely upon spontaneity and you're older, well, you're tired, you work, you drink, you end up putting it off, and then you lose confidence.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: And next thing you know, you're putting it off pretty fucking regularly.
39:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, Zoe and Suzanne, if you were coming to visit me in Montana, by the way, come.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm a really great chef.
39:36
SPEAKER_00: My house is probably the best restaurant in town.
39:38
SPEAKER_03: You're really funny as well.
39:40
SPEAKER_03: And you're really funny.
39:41
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
39:45
SPEAKER_00: If you were going to come to me for dinner, it'd be special.
39:48
SPEAKER_00: So I wouldn't like, you know, it would be like, you know, you read the doorbell and I'd say, oh, what's in the refrigerator?
39:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we got some leftover rotisserie chicken.
39:55
SPEAKER_00: Let's just heat up some ketchup on it.
39:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, I would plan a meal because it's more... With a ring on.
40:01
SPEAKER_00: With a ring on it, right?
40:04
SPEAKER_00: Everyone gets a ring when it comes to visit.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: You want to put it... You want to... You know, the point is, when it comes to sex, people... I mean, to some degree, porn is... I think porn can be invidious, but it also can point people in the direction.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: Plan.
40:21
SPEAKER_00: If there are things that you like in porn, show it to your partner.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: Hey, here are three...
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40:43
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, we have reached way beyond our 30 minutes.
40:48
SPEAKER_03: We usually stop, but we've enjoyed this so much.
40:52
SPEAKER_03: And we will put your promo code on all of the website links and all the stuff for your devices.
41:01
SPEAKER_03: It's been super fascinating.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: I really, yeah, just loved hearing about this.
41:09
SPEAKER_03: I'm a big cock ring fan.
41:10
SPEAKER_03: Zoe's a big scrotum fan.
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SPEAKER_03: So, yeah.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: You've got to remember my wife.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: Hey, Annie, come on for a second.
41:18
SPEAKER_00: But Suzanne is a big cock ring fan.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: Zoe's a big scrotum fan.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: I think you're a fan of both.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: Scrotum balls.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: Here's a...
41:30
SPEAKER_03: Lovely to meet you.
41:32
SPEAKER_03: Lovely to meet you.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: You are so lucky.
41:35
SPEAKER_03: You are so lucky.
41:37
SPEAKER_03: If you find another one like him, if you find another one like him, can you just send him over to London?
41:42
SPEAKER_03: Will you?
41:48
SPEAKER_00: Will you?
41:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're going to be in London.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Our daughter lives there.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: One of our kids lives there.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: We're going to be in London in May.
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SPEAKER_00: Love to get together.
41:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, let's do that.
41:57
SPEAKER_03: I sing as well.
41:59
SPEAKER_03: I've got a gig in May.
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SPEAKER_03: So you might even be able to come see me sing.
42:03
SPEAKER_03: That'd be so cool.
42:04
SPEAKER_03: Anyway, that's all from me.
42:06
SPEAKER_03: That's all from me.
42:08
SPEAKER_03: Elliot, lovely.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: It's a pleasure.
42:15
SPEAKER_03: Okay, bye.
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SPEAKER_00: Bye-bye.