Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Late 2007 Documents Show Continued Effort to Shield Epstein From Federal Exposure (Part 4) (10/21/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to dive right
- 0:06Speaker 1: back into the letter sent by Epstein's lawyers to Alex Acosta. B.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Redacted prompted an unduly invasive investigation of Mr. Epstein. Redacted's
- 0:18Speaker 1: investigation of Mr. Epstein raises serious questions, despite the fact
- 0:23Speaker 1: that she was made aware of the inaccuracies in the
- 0:25Speaker 1: PBPD's probable cause affidavit She chose to include the affidavit
- 0:31Speaker 1: in the document file with the court knowing that the
- 0:33Speaker 1: public could access it. Then Redacted issued letters requesting documents
- 0:38Speaker 1: whose subject matter have no relation to the allegations against Mr. Epstein. Notably,
- 0:43Speaker 1: after we objected to these overly broad and intrusive requests,
- 0:47Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Redacted denied knowledge of Redacted's actions, and Redacted
- 0:51Speaker 1: commendably sought to significantly narrow the list of documents requested.
- 0:57Speaker 1: In a subsequent court filing, Redacted referred to our agreement
- 1:00Speaker 1: to remove these items from her demand list as evidence
- 1:03Speaker 1: of Mr. Epstein's non-cooperation. This was only the beginning. Redacted
- 1:08Speaker 1: also subpoenaed the agent of Roy Black without following the
- 1:12Speaker 1: guidelines provided in the U.S. Attorney's Manual that require prior
- 1:16Speaker 1: notification to Washington necessary to seek lawyers' records. We once
- 1:20Speaker 1: more requested Mr. Lurie to intervene. Despite these efforts, Redacted
- 1:24Speaker 1: followed up with a subpoena of for Mr. Epstein's confidential
- 1:27Speaker 1: medical records served directly on his chiropractor, with no notice
- 1:32Speaker 1: to Mr. Epstein. Redacted also made the unusual request of
- 1:36Speaker 1: asking the state attorney's office for some of the grand
- 1:38Speaker 1: jury material. She threatened to subpoena the state when she
- 1:42Speaker 1: was informed that it was in violation of Florida law
- 1:45Speaker 1: to release this information. After compiling this evidence, Redacted stated
- 1:49Speaker 1: that she would be initiating an investigation into a purported
- 1:52Speaker 1: violation of U.S. Code 18, Section 7, 1591, again without
- 1:57Speaker 1: required prior DOJ notification. Redacted then broadened the scope of
- 2:02Speaker 1: the investigation without any foundation for doing so by adding
- 2:06Speaker 1: charges of money laundering and violations of a money transmitting
- 2:09Speaker 1: business to the investigation. Mr. Epstein's counsel explained that there
- 2:14Speaker 1: could be no basis for these charges since Mr. Epstein
- 2:17Speaker 1: did not commit any prerequisite act for a money laundering
- 2:21Speaker 1: charge and has never even engaged in a money transmitting business. Ms.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Redacted responded that Mr. Epstein could be charged under these
- 2:29Speaker 1: statutes because he funded illegal activities. To suggest that Mr.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Epstein could violate these statutes simply by spending his legally
- 2:37Speaker 1: earned money on prostitutes is manifestly an erroneous interpretation of
- 2:41Speaker 1: the law. To our relief, after briefing Redacted at a
- 2:45Speaker 1: meeting regarding the spurious application of these statuses, we were
- 2:49Speaker 1: told to ignore the laundry list and that defense counsel
- 2:53Speaker 1: should focus on be turned to U.S. Code 18, Section 2422B.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Once Mr. Epstein's counsel submitted and presented the reasons why
- 3:02Speaker 1: a federal case would require stretching the relevant federal statutes
- 3:06Speaker 1: beyond recognition, and that federal involvement in this matter should
- 3:10Speaker 1: be precluded based on the federalism concerns, the petite policy,
- 3:14Speaker 1: and general principles of prosecutorial discretion, the parties commenced discussions
- 3:19Speaker 1: of a possible plea agreement. Around this time, we received
- 3:22Speaker 1: an email from Redacted suggesting that that she wanted to
- 3:25Speaker 1: discuss the possibility of a concurrent federal and state resolution.
- 3:30Speaker 1: We were immediately informed by your office that Redacted did
- 3:33Speaker 1: not have the authority to make any such plea proposals
- 3:36Speaker 1: and would not be involved in any further negotiations of
- 3:38Speaker 1: a plea. Despite this commitment, Redacted was the principal negotiator
- 3:43Speaker 1: of the agreement. At our meeting on September 7th, she
- 3:47Speaker 1: made reference to an allegation against Mr. Epstein involving a
- 3:50Speaker 1: 12-year-old individual. This allegation is without merit, and without foundation.
- 3:55Speaker 1: Though your last letter suggests that there waxed or was
- 3:59Speaker 1: no contact between individuals in your office and the press,
- 4:03Speaker 1: we were previously told by Redacted that the FBI was
- 4:06Speaker 1: receiving information specifically from Connolly, a Vanity Fair reporter, and
- 4:11Speaker 1: not vice versa. C. Redacted included unfair terms in the agreement.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Redacted took positions in negotiating this matter that stray from
- 4:21Speaker 1: both stated policy and established law. First, redacted insisted that
- 4:25Speaker 1: as part of the federal plea agreement, the state attorney's office,
- 4:28Speaker 1: without being shown new evidence, should be convinced to charge Mr.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Epstein with violations of law and recommend a sentence that
- 4:36Speaker 1: are significantly harsher than what the state deemed appropriate. In fact,
- 4:40Speaker 1: the state attorneys viewed this matter as a straightforward prostitution
- 4:43Speaker 1: case and believed that a term of probation was and
- 4:46Speaker 1: is the appropriate sentence. At redacted's insistence, however, Mr. Epstein
- 4:52Speaker 1: was forced to undertake the highly unusual and unprecedented action
- 4:56Speaker 1: of directing his defense team to contract the state prosecutors
- 4:59Speaker 1: themselves and ask for an upward departure in both his
- 5:03Speaker 1: indictment and sentence. There was no effort by the state
- 5:06Speaker 1: and federal prosecutors to coordinate the prosecutions, a practice which
- 5:11Speaker 1: is against the tenets of the Petit policy. In our view,
- 5:15Speaker 1: it's unprecedented to micromanage Each and every term of Mr.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Epstein's state plea, including the exact state charges to which Mr.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Epstein pled guilty, the time frame within Mr. Epstein must
- 5:27Speaker 1: enter the state plea and surrender to state officials and
- 5:30Speaker 1: the amount of time he must spend in county jail.
- 5:33Speaker 1: This is particularly true where the state attorney's office has
- 5:37Speaker 1: a different view of the case and there has been
- 5:39Speaker 1: no coordination with state authorities. In addition, redacted require that Mr.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Epstein's sentence include a registerable offense. As you know, requiring
- 5:49Speaker 1: sex offender registration will have significant impact both immediately and
- 5:53Speaker 1: forever after. This harsh term, which is said to be
- 5:56Speaker 1: suggested by the FBI, was added despite the fact that
- 5:59Speaker 1: the state believed that Mr. Epstein's conduct did not warrant
- 6:03Speaker 1: any such registration. As you know, state officials have special
- 6:07Speaker 1: expertise in deciding which offenders pose a threat to their community. Moreover,
- 6:12Speaker 1: this demand placed the state's prosecutors' credibility at issue and
- 6:16Speaker 1: diminishes the force of sexual registration when it's applied to
- 6:19Speaker 1: offenders who state prosecutors do not believe are dangerous or
- 6:22Speaker 1: require registration. Redacted's decision not to permit the state attorney
- 6:27Speaker 1: to determine a matter uniquely within its province was unwarranted.
- 6:32Speaker 1: What is more, when negotiating the settlement portion of the agreement,
- 6:36Speaker 1: Redacted insisted that a civil settlement provision be included in
- 6:39Speaker 1: the agreement, namely the inclusion of U.S. Code 18, Section 2255.
- 6:45Speaker 1: a negotiating term which is unprecedented in nature. While we
- 6:48Speaker 1: were reluctant and cautious about a plea agreement in which
- 6:51Speaker 1: a criminal defendant gives up certain rights to contest liability
- 6:55Speaker 1: for a civil settlement, redacted's ultimatums required that we acquiesce
- 7:00Speaker 1: to these unprecedented terms. For instance, when plea discussion stalled
- 7:04Speaker 1: as a result of redacted's demands, Mr. Epstein's counsel received
- 7:08Speaker 1: a letter from her stating, as it now appears you
- 7:11Speaker 1: will not settle. At this point, redacted expressed, her intention
- 7:15Speaker 1: to relaunch the government's previously set-aside money laundering investigation. She
- 7:20Speaker 1: also issued a rush of subpoenas and sent target letters
- 7:23Speaker 1: to Mr. Epstein's employees, adding new federal charges including obstruction
- 7:27Speaker 1: of justice. She then personally called Mr. Epstein's largest and
- 7:31Speaker 1: most valued business client without any basis to inform him
- 7:35Speaker 1: of the investigation. In an attempt to prevent further persecution
- 7:40Speaker 1: and intimidation, We proposed that Mr. Epstein establish a restitution
- 7:44Speaker 1: fund specifically for the settlement of the identified individual's civil
- 7:48Speaker 1: claims and that an impartial independent representative be appointed to
- 7:53Speaker 1: administer that fund. There was no dollar amount limit discussed
- 7:56Speaker 1: for the fund, but the idea was still rejected. We
- 8:00Speaker 1: then pointed out the state's charges to which Mr. Epstein
- 8:03Speaker 1: was to plead guilty carried with it a state restitution
- 8:06Speaker 1: provision that would allow victims to recover damages. Misredacted, however...
- 8:11Speaker 1: rejected this idea and suggested requiring a guardian ad litium
- 8:15Speaker 1: implying that the alleged victims in question were currently minors
- 8:19Speaker 1: and needed special representation. We later learned that the government's
- 8:23Speaker 1: list of individuals included a woman as old as 24,
- 8:27Speaker 1: which flies in the face of prior representations. It should
- 8:30Speaker 1: be noted that any person who is currently 24 years
- 8:33Speaker 1: or older could not have been a victim under U.S.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Code Section 2255, even if the conduct occurred in 2001.
- 8:41Speaker 1: At Redacted's insistence, the parties ultimately agreed to the appointment
- 8:45Speaker 1: of an attorney representative. But Redacted then took the position
- 8:49Speaker 1: that Mr. Epstein should pay for the representative's fees, which
- 8:52Speaker 1: effectively meant that Mr. Epstein must pay to sue himself.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Redacted also proposed wholly irrelevant charges, such as making obscene
- 9:00Speaker 1: phone calls and violations of child privacy laws. When Redacted
- 9:04Speaker 1: learned of these proposed charges, he asked Mr. Epstein's defense
- 9:07Speaker 1: team to ignore them, as they would embarrass the office. d.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Redacted continually and purposefully misinterpreted the critical terms of the agreement.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Since the execution of the agreement redacted as repeatedly and misconstrued,
- 9:21Speaker 1: the terms contained therein. As you know, several facets of
- 9:25Speaker 1: this matter have been highly contested by both parties. We
- 9:28Speaker 1: sometimes have obtained two competing views as to your willingness
- 9:32Speaker 1: to compromise on specific issues that we have raised with
- 9:35Speaker 1: your office. In particular, there are times when we receive
- 9:38Speaker 1: verbal agreement from you or your staff and sometimes from
- 9:42Speaker 1: misredacted herself, on a particular issue, only to subsequently receive
- 9:46Speaker 1: a contradictory interpretation from misredacted that negates our prior common understanding.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Her misrepresentations appear to be attempts to effectively change the
- 9:57Speaker 1: spirit and the meaning of the non-prosecution agreement. We offer
- 10:02Speaker 1: several examples of significant misrepresentations. First, despite the fact that
- 10:08Speaker 1: we received several commitments from your office that it would
- 10:10Speaker 1: monitor Mr. Epstein's state sentencing but not interfere with it
- 10:14Speaker 1: in any way, Ms. Redacted sought to do just that. Ms.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Redacted's decision to utilize a civil remedy statute in the
- 10:21Speaker 1: place of a restitution fund for the alleged victims eliminates
- 10:24Speaker 1: a notification requirement under the Justice for All Act in 2004,
- 10:29Speaker 1: a federal law that requires federal authorities to notify victims
- 10:32Speaker 1: as to any available restitution, not of any potential civil remedies,
- 10:37Speaker 1: to which they're entitled. Despite this fact, Ms. Redacted proposed
- 10:40Speaker 1: a victim's notification letter to be sent to the alleged
- 10:43Speaker 1: federal victims. Ms. Redacted has gone even further. alleging that
- 10:47Speaker 1: the victims may take written statements or testify against Mr.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Epstein at the sentencing. We find no basis in law
- 10:54Speaker 1: or the agreement that provides the identified individuals with either
- 10:58Speaker 1: a right to appear at Mr. Epstein's plea and sentence
- 11:01Speaker 1: or to submit a written statement to be filed by
- 11:03Speaker 1: the state attorney. Here, Mr. Epstein is pleading guilty to
- 11:07Speaker 1: and being sentenced for state offenses, not the federal offenses
- 11:10Speaker 1: under which the government has unilaterally recognized these identified individuals
- 11:14Speaker 1: as victims. The notion that individuals whose names are not
- 11:18Speaker 1: even known to the charging prosecutor in a state actually
- 11:21Speaker 1: should somehow be allowed to speak at a proceeding is unjustifiable. Furthermore,
- 11:26Speaker 1: only after obtaining the executed agreement did Ms. Redacted begin
- 11:30Speaker 1: insisting that the selected representative's duties go beyond settlement and
- 11:34Speaker 1: include litigating claims for individuals. In Ms. Redacted's victim's notification letter,
- 11:40Speaker 1: she states that Mr. Potthurst and Ms. Josephsburg, the selected
- 11:43Speaker 1: of attorneys' representatives, may present the identified individuals. This language
- 11:48Speaker 1: assumes the selected representatives will agree to serve in the
- 11:53Speaker 1: capacity envisioned by Ms. Redacted, which is patently incorrect. Yet
- 11:57Speaker 1: neglecting the spirit of principle of ethic with respects to conflict, Ms.
- 12:01Speaker 1: Redacted continues to improperly emphasize that the chosen attorney representative
- 12:06Speaker 1: should be able to litigate the claims of individuals. In
- 12:09Speaker 1: a similar fashion, Ms. Redacted has overstated the scope of Mr.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Epstein's waiver of of liability pursuant to the agreement. Misredacted
- 12:17Speaker 1: began asserting that Mr. Epstein has waived liability even when
- 12:20Speaker 1: claims with identified individuals are not settled just after the
- 12:24Speaker 1: execution of the agreement. Despite the fact that at this
- 12:28Speaker 1: time we obtained an agreement from you that Mr. Epstein's
- 12:31Speaker 1: waiver would not stretch past settlement, misredacted continues to espouse
- 12:36Speaker 1: this erroneous interpretation. F. Misredacted in the settlement process. We're
- 12:41Speaker 1: concerned that Ms. Redacted has repeatedly attempted to manipulate the
- 12:44Speaker 1: process under which Mr. Epstein has agreed to settle civil claims. First,
- 12:49Speaker 1: she inappropriately attempted to nominate Humbert Burt Ocariz for attorney
- 12:54Speaker 1: representative despite the fact that Mr. Ocariz has a long-standing
- 12:59Speaker 1: relationship with Ms. Redacted. Mr. Ocariz turns out to be
- 13:03Speaker 1: a very good personal friend and law school classmate of Ms.
- 13:06Speaker 1: Redacted's boyfriend, a fact she assiduously kept hidden from counsel.
- 13:11Speaker 1: We also learned that Ms. Redacted that she shared the
- 13:13Speaker 1: Ocariz the summary of the charges the government was considering
- 13:17Speaker 1: against Epstein, even after your office conceded that it was
- 13:20Speaker 1: inappropriate for its attorneys to select an attorney representative. Ms.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Redacted continued to lobby for Mr. Ocariz's appointment. On October 19, 2007,
- 13:31Speaker 1: retired Judge Edward B. Davis, who was appointed by the
- 13:34Speaker 1: parties to select the attorney representative, informed Mr. Epstein's counsel
- 13:38Speaker 1: that he received a telephone call from Mr. Okeriz, directly
- 13:42Speaker 1: requesting that Judge Davis appoint him as the attorney representative
- 13:45Speaker 1: in the matter. Furthermore, federal interference continues to plague the
- 13:49Speaker 1: integrity of the implementation of the agreement. We recently learned
- 13:53Speaker 1: that despite the fact that there was no communication between
- 13:56Speaker 1: state and federal authorities as to the investigation of Mr. Epstein,
- 14:00Speaker 1: the FBI visited the state attorney's office two weeks ago
- 14:03Speaker 1: to request Mr. Epstein be disqualified to participate in work release,
- 14:08Speaker 1: even though the agreement mandates that Mr. Epstein be treated
- 14:11Speaker 1: as any other inmate. 3. Conclusion In sum, we request
- 14:15Speaker 1: that you review the evidence supporting the prosecution of Mr. Epstein.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Such a review would serve to address similar concerns as
- 14:22Speaker 1: those raised in Brady v. Maryland, which mandate the disclosure
- 14:25Speaker 1: of evidence material to guilt or innocence, even after the
- 14:28Speaker 1: execution of an agreement, to enter a plea of guilty.
- 14:32Speaker 1: We believe that the prosecution team was informed by its witnesses,
- 14:35Speaker 1: including persons other than redacted and redacted, who were discussed
- 14:39Speaker 1: at length above, that Mr. Epstein's practice was to seek
- 14:42Speaker 1: women older than 18 rather than targeting those under 18.
- 14:46Speaker 1: We would expect, for instance, that redacted a key witness
- 14:49Speaker 1: whose interview with the FBI was recorded would have provided
- 14:52Speaker 1: such exonerating information as well as many others. We would
- 14:56Speaker 1: also expect the review to uncover clear evidence that demonstrates
- 14:59Speaker 1: that Mr. Epstein did not travel to Florida for the
- 15:02Speaker 1: purpose of having illegal underage sex, nor that he induced
- 15:05Speaker 1: underage women by using the internet or phones. Furthermore, we
- 15:10Speaker 1: ask you to consider whether there's reliable evidence, not just
- 15:13Speaker 1: that Mr. Epstein had sexual contact with witnesses who are
- 15:17Speaker 1: in fact underage, but whether the allegations are based on
- 15:21Speaker 1: trustworthy and corroborated evidence that Mr. Epstein knew that the
- 15:24Speaker 1: females in question were under 18 at the time of
- 15:27Speaker 1: sexual contact to Mr. Epstein traveled to his home in
- 15:31Speaker 1: Palm Beach for the purpose of having such sexual contact
- 15:34Speaker 1: to the extent the allegation charges a violation of of U.S.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Code 18 Section 2423B and C. And Mr. Epstein induced
- 15:42Speaker 1: such sexual contact by using an instrumentality of interstate commerce
- 15:47Speaker 1: to the extent the allegations charge a violation of 18 U.S.
- 15:51Speaker 1: Code Section 2422B. There's no evidence of internal solicitation, which
- 15:56Speaker 1: is the norm upon which federal jurisdiction is usually modeled
- 16:00Speaker 1: under the statutes. We believe that the information we provide
- 16:03Speaker 1: to you in this submission will be informative and spark
- 16:06Speaker 1: a motivation to gain more information with respect to the
- 16:10Speaker 1: investigation of the matter. Again, we're not seeking to unwind
- 16:13Speaker 1: the agreement. We're only seeking for you to exercise your
- 16:16Speaker 1: discretion in directing that an impartial and respected member of
- 16:20Speaker 1: your office test the evidence upon which the draft federal
- 16:23Speaker 1: indictment was based against, the best evidence, including the transcripts
- 16:27Speaker 1: of the tape-recorded pre-federal involvement interviews. Finally, I'd like to
- 16:31Speaker 1: reiterate our appreciation for the opportunity to have provided to
- 16:35Speaker 1: review some of our issues and concerns. I look forward
- 16:38Speaker 1: to speaking with you shortly. This was signed by Jay Lefkowitz.
- 16:43Speaker 1: All the information that goes with this episode can be
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