Latest / Wicked Radio with Bill Adams / Wicked Radio 5-1: AI 'Kill Switches' In Cars. Nope, Don't Want That!
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- 0:03Speaker 1: If they ever got away with instituting AI generated kill
- 0:09Speaker 1: switches is what they're being called in cars. In other words,
- 0:11Speaker 1: your car would not operate because like the monitoring system things,
- 0:14Speaker 1: you're like, you're too worked up, you're drunk, you're anything.
- 0:18Speaker 1: It would kill the it would kill the car. I'd
- 0:20Speaker 1: never be able to drive anywhere. No, it's not because
- 0:23Speaker 1: I drink and drive.
- 0:23Speaker 2: That's not it.
- 0:24Speaker 1: It's because I talk to myself constantly, especially in the car.
- 0:29Speaker 1: But I bet you do too. You guys think it's
- 0:31Speaker 1: just on here. Oh no, like like like always, and
- 0:34Speaker 1: I think that female version of is resting bach face.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I have whatever that is, so I look very mad
- 0:40Speaker 1: all the time when I'm driving, even when I'm not.
- 0:41Speaker 1: So I think my car in this in this idea
- 0:45Speaker 1: would kill my car off and I wouldn't be able
- 0:46Speaker 1: to operate it. This is an actual real thing, and
- 0:50Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about today. I refuse to talk
- 0:52Speaker 1: about politics today. Couldn't avoid it during the week because
- 0:54Speaker 1: it was just too big of a story with redistrating
- 0:57Speaker 1: and all that.
- 0:57Speaker 2: But this is all.
- 0:58Speaker 1: About insane news that way, and that's no more insane
- 1:01Speaker 1: than this. There's a viral video that finally made the rounds.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Early this week. You probably saw a guy demonstrating exactly
- 1:08Speaker 1: what this would do in his Ford truck, because I
- 1:10Speaker 1: guess Ford is leading the way on this, but other
- 1:12Speaker 1: manufacturers are there as well.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Oh not at all, No, we gotta it's not happening yet.
- 1:18Speaker 1: There is actual legislation being proposed to make this allowable, though.
- 1:21Speaker 2: We'll get into all this stuff in other news. It's
- 1:24Speaker 2: Mayday and it's Friday. Welcome to it. Congratulations you made
- 1:27Speaker 2: it through the end of the week.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Almost or if you're listening to or watching this on
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- 1:35Speaker 1: we like to get them. Thanks for being with me
- 1:36Speaker 1: with Wicked Radio. Appreciate it so much like share follow
- 1:39Speaker 1: all that good stuff. Let's get right to it, and
- 1:41Speaker 1: I will be completely honest with you. I think we
- 1:43Speaker 1: can agree at the very least, no matter what you
- 1:46Speaker 1: think of me. I'm usually up on stories when they
- 1:48Speaker 1: start to percolate and happen. Full disclosure, I had absolutely
- 1:53Speaker 1: no idea this was even a possibility. I mean, it
- 1:56Speaker 1: makes sense that it is with the technology, but I
- 1:58Speaker 1: had no idea that this was even proposed. I know
- 2:01Speaker 1: what you're thinking, right now. I guess Alex Jones has
- 2:03Speaker 1: been talking about this for years. It turns out he
- 2:05Speaker 1: was right, because it's actual legislation. This is all about
- 2:09Speaker 1: what it's called impairment driving prevention. We'll get to the
- 2:13Speaker 1: legislation here in just a second of what they want
- 2:15Speaker 1: to do with it. The more common term what's starting
- 2:17Speaker 1: to you know, become widely used, is AI kill switches
- 2:21Speaker 1: in cars. What does it all mean? You no, again,
- 2:25Speaker 1: If your car determines through the inside recognition camera and
- 2:31Speaker 1: I guess movement technology that you're in not a state
- 2:34Speaker 1: to be able to drive, it would cut off the
- 2:37Speaker 1: cut off the vehicle's ability to get you anywhere, and
- 2:40Speaker 1: you'd be stuck. Like all legislation and all ideas, it
- 2:44Speaker 1: starts off with a great idea, and I think the
- 2:45Speaker 1: original'll get into this, but I think the original idea
- 2:47Speaker 1: was to keep people from you know, driving drunk. Right,
- 2:50Speaker 1: It would cut it off. Great idea until you apply
- 2:52Speaker 1: it to the real world. Because what happens if you
- 2:56Speaker 1: were in an emergency situation and you've being chased by
- 3:00Speaker 1: some guy with a machete down the street and you
- 3:02Speaker 1: need to get in your car your truck right now,
- 3:04Speaker 1: and get the hell out of there.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Or there's an angry you.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Know, Antifa mob that's you know, banging on your car
- 3:11Speaker 1: and wants to kill you, but you're in an agitated state.
- 3:13Speaker 2: You wouldn't be able to move with this technology. Bad idea.
- 3:18Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to that original video that's finally making
- 3:20Speaker 1: the rounds. I don't know the guy that made the
- 3:22Speaker 1: original video. I saw it through and it got promoted
- 3:24Speaker 1: through this guy. Brian Ramelli is his name. He's an
- 3:27Speaker 1: AI tech guy. He's trying to like train hay Hi
- 3:31Speaker 1: the right way, so it doesn't you know, develop and
- 3:33Speaker 1: kill us. So he's all against this thing, and he
- 3:35Speaker 1: posted this video and it's gotten millions and millions of views.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Right now, we have to take this step by step.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Here's why I think it's so impactful. Of all the
- 3:42Speaker 1: people that have made videos about this technology and the
- 3:45Speaker 1: potential dangers and some benefits, this guy demonstrates it the
- 3:49Speaker 1: best because he puts it in a real world situation.
- 3:51Speaker 1: If he's out in the woods with a chainsaw, right,
- 3:54Speaker 1: if he was in an emergency, he wouldn't be able
- 3:56Speaker 1: to move his car.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Here's the video. We'll take it step by step and
- 3:58Speaker 2: break it down.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Now, imagine there was an emergency outside the truck, an accident,
- 4:04Speaker 3: something terrible on the ranch with a chainsaw, and I
- 4:06Speaker 3: jumped in this truck. But the truck it won't shift
- 4:09Speaker 3: into drive. Why because the cameras and sensors inside this
- 4:12Speaker 3: cab won't let it shift because it detects my eyes
- 4:15Speaker 3: or big There's a lot of emotion, there's some panic,
- 4:17Speaker 3: and it doesn't feel that I'm fit to drive. Now
- 4:20Speaker 3: that's not science fiction. That is happening because Ford just
- 4:23Speaker 3: filed the patent.
- 4:25Speaker 1: All right, time out right there. We'll get back to
- 4:26Speaker 1: him in a second. It's not just Ford though, but yeah,
- 4:28Speaker 1: they have file palent the patents. They have nothing to
- 4:30Speaker 1: approved just yet, but they have filed for it. But
- 4:32Speaker 1: don't start to think it's only them, because if this
- 4:35Speaker 1: was approved in legislation, everybody in patent to end legal registration,
- 4:40Speaker 1: everybody would want this. Will describe why in a second.
- 4:43Speaker 1: But the guy does a great job because he grabs
- 4:45Speaker 1: your attention. It's a great video because he gives you
- 4:47Speaker 1: a real world example of what actually could happen if
- 4:49Speaker 1: you went an emergency and he had to run and
- 4:51Speaker 1: there's in some sort of an accident with a chainsaw
- 4:54Speaker 1: on his ranch. Nope, he's stuck there and he's gonna die.
- 4:57Speaker 3: Ford actually has a series of patents down at the
- 4:59Speaker 3: US Patent Train that deal with the sensors and cameras
- 5:02Speaker 3: inside the cab of their truck. And if the sensors
- 5:05Speaker 3: in that truck determined that you're not fit to drive,
- 5:08Speaker 3: that truck will not actually shift from park to drive. Now,
- 5:11Speaker 3: they already have a system called telematics, and that's where
- 5:14Speaker 3: they can actually pull up cameras in real time inside
- 5:17Speaker 3: the cab of their fleet vehicles. Now they actually market
- 5:20Speaker 3: this to insurance companies because the truth is this is
- 5:24Speaker 3: really about who owns the data and who owns the liability.
- 5:29Speaker 1: He gets to something really important there, And I was
- 5:31Speaker 1: going to pick this up in just a second, but
- 5:33Speaker 1: now that he said it, we're all thinking it. Who
- 5:35Speaker 1: is this information most valuable to local police department, local
- 5:39Speaker 1: sheriff's office. No, not really, the manufacturer? Uh kind of,
- 5:43Speaker 1: but not really. Who is this most valuable to this
- 5:46Speaker 1: information about you as a driver, Because they already get
- 5:49Speaker 1: information the insurance companies.
- 5:52Speaker 2: This is gold to them to.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Figure out what kind of a driver you are. The
- 5:56Speaker 1: insurance companies. We all need insurance. We're all stuck in
- 5:58Speaker 1: the system.
- 5:59Speaker 2: I get it. They bet against you. That's what it is.
- 6:02Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what kind of insurance, health, insurance, business, insurance,
- 6:06Speaker 1: you know, driver's insurance, whatever it is.
- 6:09Speaker 2: It's a bet against you and how much they can
- 6:10Speaker 2: put against you. It's what it is. It's just the
- 6:12Speaker 2: nature of the industry. It's true. Don't you think this
- 6:16Speaker 2: could be.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Manipulated very very easily by insurance companies here?
- 6:20Speaker 2: Yeah? Great?
- 6:21Speaker 1: You know again, this wonderful AI technology that gets a
- 6:24Speaker 1: bad name because people who want to take a great idea,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and the originators of this idea wanted to keep people
- 6:29Speaker 1: from driving drunk.
- 6:30Speaker 2: I get it.
- 6:31Speaker 1: It doesn't apply to the real world because there are
- 6:33Speaker 1: bad people out there who would take this technology and
- 6:35Speaker 1: twist it around to use it against you. All right,
- 6:37Speaker 1: this is where we got to get into it. Where
- 6:38Speaker 1: are we now though? Where is this technology? Got to
- 6:41Speaker 1: do a little search, speaking of AI, I put it
- 6:43Speaker 1: in grock and also chat GPT, and they both came
- 6:46Speaker 1: up with the same thing. The ex post that the
- 6:48Speaker 1: guy did, which now has gone viral because everybody's talking
- 6:52Speaker 1: about it, thankfully, is a key part of the story. Accurately,
- 6:56Speaker 1: this is grok reflects section two two two zero of
- 7:01Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. It
- 7:06Speaker 1: would direct the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to require
- 7:09Speaker 1: advanced impaired driving prevention technology in all US passenger vehicles,
- 7:14Speaker 1: targeting implementation around twenty twenty seven. Blah blah blah, blah,
- 7:18Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Follow it up more. This one actually
- 7:20Speaker 1: is from chat GPT. Where are we on this so far?
- 7:23Speaker 2: Right now?
- 7:23Speaker 1: The proper name comes from the Abbas family legacy to
- 7:27Speaker 1: Terminate Drunk Driving Act. Originally somebody wanted to prevent drunk driving.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Bad people got a hold of it and they said,
- 7:34Speaker 1: oh my god, is this valuable as of right now?
- 7:36Speaker 1: And this is what we're all concerned about. Where are
- 7:39Speaker 1: we may first twenty twenty six, not yet implemented, not
- 7:42Speaker 1: yet in effect for any vehicles. The NHTSA missed the
- 7:47Speaker 1: original November twenty four year deadline to file and rule
- 7:50Speaker 1: not issued.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. So it's not there yet, But man,
- 7:54Speaker 2: are we close?
- 7:54Speaker 1: And again I try to stay on top of stories
- 7:57Speaker 1: and things that are coming down the pike. I was
- 7:59Speaker 1: not even aware this, didn't even know it was coming.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I had no idea.
- 8:02Speaker 2: But you look back now, and doesn't it make sense
- 8:04Speaker 2: that it would be, doesn't it?
- 8:05Speaker 3: Right?
- 8:05Speaker 2: Now, here's some follow up on this.
- 8:07Speaker 1: All the tech people and they all have podcasts and
- 8:09Speaker 1: shows and all this stuff.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Some are actually great.
- 8:12Speaker 1: This girl is not too exciting, but she gives some
- 8:14Speaker 1: great background of the actual law on this. She's not exciting,
- 8:18Speaker 1: but it's a good breakdown that.
- 8:19Speaker 4: Should be chilling to people. And just a little bit
- 8:21Speaker 4: of background on this. I'm reading from a Newstation article
- 8:23Speaker 4: in January, when a bunch of Republicans voted against a
- 8:26Speaker 4: Massy led effort to kill the kill switch. They wrote
- 8:30Speaker 4: at the time, this is from the Biden era Infrastructure
- 8:32Speaker 4: Investment and Jobs Act, which compelled the NHTSA Highway Safety
- 8:38Speaker 4: Administration to set a rule requiring new cars to come
- 8:40Speaker 4: equipped with the ability to detect drunk driving and prevent it.
- 8:45Speaker 4: You can fact check that, plug that into Google, do
- 8:48Speaker 4: it yourself. It is absolutely what was in the legislation.
- 8:52Speaker 1: It's yeah, which is pretty much what we just said.
- 8:55Speaker 1: But she said something really important there. Did she say,
- 8:58Speaker 1: Wait a minute, hold on, she said Massy like Thomas Massey.
- 9:01Speaker 2: You know, and I don't.
- 9:02Speaker 1: No matter what you think of Massy these days, I
- 9:04Speaker 1: get it. He's like against every single Trump plan that
- 9:06Speaker 1: comes down the pike. I get it at all that stuff.
- 9:08Speaker 1: He's an obstructionist. I understand that he's onto some good
- 9:10Speaker 1: stuff sometimes. But did you catch what she said there
- 9:13Speaker 1: in the beginning? A group of Republicans voted against Massey's
- 9:17Speaker 1: plan to kill the kill switch. Republicans, so those are
- 9:21Speaker 1: the guys that are all for personal freedom, right, but
- 9:23Speaker 1: they killed his idea. You think they're getting paid off
- 9:25Speaker 1: by the insurance companies and they have lobbyists who are
- 9:27Speaker 1: giving him money from the insurance or car manufacturers. Think,
- 9:30Speaker 1: let's go to Massy for a second, because now we're
- 9:33Speaker 1: finding out that this has been in the works for
- 9:35Speaker 1: a long time. I just didn't pass it yet and
- 9:37Speaker 1: they missed the deadline. Here he was in twenty twenty
- 9:40Speaker 1: two with his bill to kill this idea of an
- 9:44Speaker 1: AI generated kill switch in your car. I don't know
- 9:46Speaker 1: why somebody put music behind this post. I have no idea,
- 9:49Speaker 1: but they do. But you get the gist, and you
- 9:51Speaker 1: get exactly what he was saying. And keep in mind
- 9:53Speaker 1: what that girl just said there. In that podcast, a
- 9:55Speaker 1: group of Republicans voted against his idea to get rid
- 9:58Speaker 1: of this.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Ask yourself why, but here you why.
- 10:00Speaker 5: There's a law that states that every vehicle manufacturer is
- 10:03Speaker 5: going to have to have a kill switch in it.
- 10:06Speaker 5: The car itself will monitor your driving, and if the
- 10:09Speaker 5: car thinks that you're not doing a good job driving,
- 10:14Speaker 5: it will disable itself. So the car dashboard becomes your judge,
- 10:18Speaker 5: your jury, and your execution.
- 10:21Speaker 1: When it also becomes more than that, it becomes your
- 10:23Speaker 1: insurance company, It becomes how you What if this was used.
- 10:25Speaker 2: For some sort of a crazy social credit system.
- 10:28Speaker 1: No, you were all worked up one time, you were
- 10:29Speaker 1: all like, you know, we're all agitated. You couldn't drive.
- 10:32Speaker 1: Oh you're unendurable. Imagine that if you can't. And I
- 10:35Speaker 1: know how we all feel about insurance company these days,
- 10:37Speaker 1: but you need some insurance.
- 10:39Speaker 2: What if you didn't have it? What if because one
- 10:41Speaker 2: day you were so not drinking.
- 10:42Speaker 1: What if you were all worked up one day and
- 10:44Speaker 1: yelling at something, yelling at your car or singing a song.
- 10:46Speaker 1: You were singing a Metallica song in your car, which
- 10:50Speaker 1: is pretty aggressive. Your car would kill and then the money.
- 10:54Speaker 1: That information would go to your insurance company and you're
- 10:57Speaker 1: all of a sudden unendurable because it thinks you're some
- 10:59Speaker 1: sort of a lunatic. This is by definition an awful,
- 11:04Speaker 1: awful idea and another example of great technology that's out
- 11:07Speaker 1: there that's available with AI and with facial and with
- 11:10Speaker 1: voice and movement recognition that could be used against you.
- 11:14Speaker 1: I don't mean to sound like Alex Jones here, you know,
- 11:17Speaker 1: full credit. I guess you guys are telling me he's
- 11:19Speaker 1: been talking about this for years now, since it came out. Okay,
- 11:22Speaker 1: he got another one, right, then this has to be stopped.
- 11:24Speaker 1: You don't want this like at all. Like I said
- 11:26Speaker 1: in the intro there, I listen, I would never be
- 11:29Speaker 1: able to drive a car under this technology if it
- 11:31Speaker 1: was an instituted, not just Ford, all of them, because
- 11:35Speaker 1: it's like airlines. Once the institute some kind of a rule,
- 11:38Speaker 1: all the other manufacturers would too. Every car in the
- 11:40Speaker 1: world would have this if it ever passed, and it
- 11:43Speaker 1: would be terrible. Why couldn't I No, I don't drive drunk,
- 11:46Speaker 1: but I talk to myself all the time.
- 11:49Speaker 2: It's not just on here. No, oh no, you think
- 11:52Speaker 2: it's just on here, but I bet you do.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Two A lot of us do. And it's not always
- 11:56Speaker 1: like nice, friendly laughing talk either. It's like you're agitated
- 11:59Speaker 1: about something, work out something in your head. Oh no,
- 12:01Speaker 1: my car absolutely would detect that is some sort of
- 12:04Speaker 1: a rage thing, and it would it would institute the
- 12:07Speaker 1: kill switch in my car. One of my vehicles in
- 12:09Speaker 1: the house already has this thing where if you if
- 12:12Speaker 1: it's like windy, it happened windy one day on I
- 12:15Speaker 1: ninety five and you you know, and you just you know,
- 12:18Speaker 1: get in the car back in the lane like this.
- 12:20Speaker 1: An alert came up with a logo and a graphic
- 12:23Speaker 1: of a coffee cupping.
- 12:24Speaker 2: You know what it told me. It said, maybe it's
- 12:26Speaker 2: time for a break. She's no, thanks.
- 12:30Speaker 1: What happens read by facial technology, and it said, we're
- 12:34Speaker 1: going to kill switch your car now and alert the authorities. No,
- 12:38Speaker 1: do not want I do not want this in any
- 12:40Speaker 1: way possible, because you know what. Another reason is your
- 12:43Speaker 1: car is like one of our last bastions of freedom,
- 12:46Speaker 1: if you even have that. But it's where you can
- 12:48Speaker 1: be alone with your thoughts. You can be alone for
- 12:50Speaker 1: a loan time. If you're a parent of young kids,
- 12:52Speaker 1: you know.
- 12:52Speaker 2: How valuable that is.
- 12:54Speaker 1: You're you're you have the freedom to go where you
- 12:56Speaker 1: want to go, you know, with limited capability. And it's
- 13:00Speaker 1: also where you can determine you're literally driving your course
- 13:05Speaker 1: of direction. Because it was a big move after World
- 13:07Speaker 1: War Two, there was a big movement and a big
- 13:10Speaker 1: decision had to be made when all the veterans came back.
- 13:12Speaker 1: When we're booming, we're going into the suburbs. What are
- 13:14Speaker 1: we going to do for transportation? It was either going
- 13:17Speaker 1: to be mass transportation. We were all going to be
- 13:19Speaker 1: riding trains and then subways and commuter rails everywhere throughout
- 13:23Speaker 1: the country. There were already plans in place. You'd be
- 13:26Speaker 1: stuck with everybody else in seats like Lemmings, you're there,
- 13:29Speaker 1: or they were going to go the other direction. They
- 13:31Speaker 1: would build the national highway system. Thankfully, thank god, we
- 13:34Speaker 1: built the highway system, so you have at least some freedom.
- 13:37Speaker 1: You're not stuck on public transportation all the time. Well,
- 13:40Speaker 1: this would be this would be the end of your
- 13:42Speaker 1: freedom if they ever institute the AI killed switch.
- 13:45Speaker 2: All right, what do we do? What do you do
- 13:46Speaker 2: about this? First and foremost, you have to be involved.
- 13:50Speaker 2: You have to you have to.
- 13:51Speaker 1: Tell your congressman, you're somebody or whatever. Apparently, according to Massy,
- 13:55Speaker 1: these group of Republicans that are voting against killing the
- 13:58Speaker 1: kill switch, let them know that's not it. Then it
- 14:00Speaker 1: goes to a consumer level. Would you buy a car
- 14:01Speaker 1: that has this if you had a choice not to? No,
- 14:04Speaker 1: absolutely not, course not. Don't put vote with your dollars.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Of course you.
- 14:08Speaker 1: Wouldn't want to buy a vehicle that has this. More importantly, though,
- 14:11Speaker 1: it's the most important thing. It's exactly what's happening this week.
- 14:14Speaker 1: It's awareness. That guy's video made the rounds because Brian
- 14:18Speaker 1: Ramelli there, the AI tech guy, post reposted it and
- 14:23Speaker 1: made everybody aware of it. Now it's seen millions events,
- 14:25Speaker 1: and now everybody is aware of this technology. That's what
- 14:29Speaker 1: it is. Spread the technology because they sneak the worst
- 14:32Speaker 1: things in and the worst tech ideas in when nobody's
- 14:34Speaker 1: paying attention. Don't allow them to put an AI kill
- 14:38Speaker 1: switch in your car or my car or anybody else's.
- 14:40Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.
- 14:41Speaker 1: All right, thanks for finding me. Let's get out of here.
- 14:42Speaker 1: Let's get into the weekend. A little short, but I
- 14:44Speaker 1: got stuff to do, and so do you. Don't let
- 14:47Speaker 1: him put a kill switch in your car.
- 14:48Speaker 2: All right.
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- 15:03Speaker 1: Make it a great weekend, enjoy it. I know it
- 15:06Speaker 1: was a crazy weekend news. There was a lot of
- 15:07Speaker 1: politics dominating the news. It was important with redistricting and
- 15:11Speaker 1: all that other stuff. But remember, enjoy your freedom. Don't
- 15:15Speaker 1: ever let the politicians take over. Thanks for hanging out
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- 15:19Speaker 1: and weekend. I'll talk to you Monday.