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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell (2.143.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well folks, there's some big things going on here at the IU report right now.
• 0:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hearing reports, they, certain game that took place over the weekend, down in Atlanta, not only did they win the Peach Bowl, but they absolutely dominated the Peach Bowl against Oregon.
• 0:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now set themselves up to play for a national championship on the football field.
• 0:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Grant Shows, my cuts will you were there at the game.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Talk about your experience a little bit at the game and just the fun you and Avery had do have had down there.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, I don't know if anything that you could possibly have read or heard about how wild that stadium was after the DeAngelo Ponds pick six.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: can even fully encapsulate how action will lead loud.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was windy angel uponside that pic six because I'm telling you great.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been to sporting events in a lot of places and I've seen some really, really big moments and some really, really big games.
• 1:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been to the Lincoln Philadelphia.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been to a Steelers Ravens prime time game that ended on a mis 2 point conversion by the Ravens.
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been to the old RCA dome when the colds were rolling, and this was a neutral sight, right?
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've never been in Arena that exploded the way that that dome exploded at that exact moment.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just being there, watching the crowd around me,
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: When that happened, you saw a breaking from our seats because just from where we were sitting, it was kind of right in front of us.
• 1:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And when you saw the throw and you saw ponds, you were like, oh, oh, and it just the roof came off.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then the overall experience of Atlanta, everything you've heard about the fan ratio has probably been undersold to you.
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They say it was maybe 90 10.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It felt a little bit more like 98.9 to 1.1.
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kudos to the Oregon fans that were there.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody I talked to that was affiliated with the Oregon was there.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were enjoying it.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were super friendly.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were interacting well with the Indiana fans.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I had one shit head Oregon fan on the street who
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: some dudes around me.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only negative interaction I had with any organ fam.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was sitting by three guys who had come all the way from Charleston that graduated from Oregon last year and were actually tutors on the football team.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they knew some of the guys playing in the game that was kind of interesting.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of the funniest parts about that interaction was before the game started.
• 2:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of the alleged tutors at Oregon looked at me and said,
• 3:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, dude, you're so far off right now.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even really know how to explain to him.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said, it's somebody from Indiana that likes raising and tenderloin sandwiches.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And somewhere on the internet and I don't know who the affiliate was.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who the station was, but I was interviewed on camera by someone as I was exiting the stadium.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: My son didn't pay attention to what the letters were on the on the mic stick.
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I have no idea.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's probably a video of me out there talking about Kurt Signetti.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if anybody can find it, I would I would I would love to see it.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: You did not see what station it was.
• 3:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I did not see what station it was.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: My son said he thought it was the local Fox affiliate here in Louisville, but there's no sign of it anywhere on there.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it could be Indianapolis, it could be, it could be freaking ESPN.
• 4:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have no clue who the guy was.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Had some very impressive cameras, I may be on only fans.
• 4:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know right now.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: there may be some weird AI video of me that was created that's on only fans but hit like and subscribe nine ninety nine a month anyway i'm right next to dago pavia's mom on there well i'm just a fun fun experience so many indiana fans there's so many people
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: that I knew were there, that I had a chance to run into people that I'd never met before I'd my new best friend, just complete strangers hugging in the crowd.
• 4:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was just such a fun Friday night and just completely caught everybody off guard.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: People were expecting a close game.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: and it just turned into a coronation of this program and getting now to the national championship game in college football, which still is a surreal sentence to say.
• 5:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Going back to that first play, Mike, was it unbelievable that that happened?
• 5:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: The pick six?
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You said you would think so, then if you look at the history of this team, no, at some point with this team, this staff, this group, you have to just stop saying things are unbelievable and just believe when they happened.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they had the big play, you were at the UCLA game where it was the second play of the game when Aden Fisher came out of nowhere and they make big plays with their defense.
• 5:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: They turn the other team over.
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: They rattled their opponents and
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: was it unbelievable?
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, out of some degree, you don't ever really fully expect to pick six at any point in a game, but it just kind of shows the preparation and the know how of this, of this staff that it seemed like they knew exactly what the play was going to be and we'll get into some of the comments that are going around about this team and hacking practice films and things like that probably at some point in the next year.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So.
• 6:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, but I was going to bring that up later, but I'll bring that up now.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indiana has dominated game so far this year that again, people are resorting to that they are cheating now, which is completely unbelievable.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And just very star or just very stupid that that people would even think that because that certainly isn't the case.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the goalposts have continued to move, it went from, they are, you know, they're canceling games against good teams and not playing anybody, then, well, yeah, they're winning, but they're not really, they only have to play two games a year, it's Oregon and, and Iowa, where the only two teams that really took a pulse this year, we'll see when they play Ohio State.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, but then they just, you know, they had a home game against Ohio State.
• 7:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: That really, and, you know, that game could have win either way.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: we'll see how they do against the SEC team and okay well yeah they beat in SEC team but they're playing a bunch of 40 year old dudes against you know 19 year olds what do we expect now it's
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're so good.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're clearly got Mark Cuban and a bunch of people hacking into some software and watching game film and downloading the first 15 play script for the other team.
• 7:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's how they're just jumping all these routes.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they don't even practice.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: They, I mean, sick just doesn't even like practice these guys.
• 7:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's just too busy cheating to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: At some point, people are going to have to give, it's going to have, they broke in the brain of the average college football fan so much that it's so preposterous to people that Indiana football could ever be this good.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: at any given time that now the narrative that we've landed on is there are a bunch of old guys cheating.
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So whatever, you know, I like to say now, Sig Breller is watching you because that's that's the new narrative.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So hey, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, right, SEC, you've been saying it for years.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pretty pathetic.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie.
• 8:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: actually one of the most stupidest things that they've ever heard from an opposing fan base, Oregon fans on Twitter, you mentioned how they were really nice and cool at the game, Mike, but on Twitter and you and you're on there, so you've seen it, but they are very friendly, a lot of hats off to Indiana for being able to dominate the game.
• 8:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Talking about the game a little bit, Dante Moore, who has credit through the pick six,
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: and was able to score touchdown and tie the game up, and then you're thinking, all right, here we go, it's gonna be another one of these games.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good response from Dante Bore, and then Indiana's offense took over, and Indiana scored 21 points off a turnovers in that game.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oregon only scored 21 or 22 points as a team.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Indiana scored 21 alone off of turnovers, which is impressive.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Turnovers absolutely just killed Oregon in that one.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can chalk up the long touchdown drive on the second drive of the game for Oregon as to Indiana scoring a defensive touchdown of picks six, kind of an emotional play to start
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: and there's no media time out, there's no little break, like you score, you kick the extra point, and then you're literally going back out there to defend the other team again.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can chalk some of that up to again, Sig said they're not, they weren't getting lined up correctly, and a lot of is no question just trying to settle down from it.
• 10:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And once they settled down, of course the offense kind of did it for them, able to settle down and then everything was kind of smooth from there.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: of that they played superb.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Seriously, they played one of their best games of the season.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was incredible.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: the game itself felt for a moment like it was going to be kind of nip and talk you mentioned organs drive following the pick six got at the seven seven in an immediately scores the Indiana gets the ball back for Morgan and you're thinking okay they're going to go down here they're going to score and all of a sudden Oregon is terrible mode that's not what happened Indiana put into the ball back to them at fourteen seven and Oregon had the ball and then
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: For the first time in the game, the injury issues that they had in the backfield really showed out because that's when more in the running back don't exchange on the MS up the the the the the the read option play the running back hits the ball out of Moore say and all of a sudden and he has got the ball for three.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: So then they score and then and he gets the ball back forces another point they score again.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: it became a title wave after that turnover in the red zone at one point you're like okay it's twenty one to seven let's take the ball here and maybe we can get another touchdown and we get the ball coming out of half time when you ended up scoring two more times of that because they
• 11:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got the ball, they scored, they forced another fun.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they score again.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so it's 35 to 7 at half at that point.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then you come out of the locker and score one more time.
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And landing, my friend who was watching the game on TV texted me and said, landing at half,
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can almost tell like he wanted his answer to be, yeah, what the F was I supposed to do?
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, they turn the ball over.
• 12:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't do that again.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: You have to be so buttoned up and not make any mistakes if you're gonna beat this team.
• 12:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Oregon just, not only do they make mistakes, they made mistakes that directly led to three touchdowns by Indiana.
• 12:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you're simply not going to be Indiana if you do that.
• 12:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: again, Indiana is it's one of those classic cases of that they can't and they won't beat themselves.
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They will never beat themselves.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the way they were able to control that game, again, you never expect a game like that for one team, especially when it's your team to come out and just absolutely dominate and control the game.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't again, I thought it would kind of be like the first time they played little nip and tuck I thought maybe Indiana could kind of pull away at the end and or organ would kind of make it interesting towards the end and Indiana would hang on and win and again, it kind of be like Ohio state kind of be like Oregon the first time.
• 13:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if you would told me that they were going to come out and do that I certainly wouldn't have been shocked again, I think this is.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: one of the more dominant teams in modern college football, just the way they beat people, just the way they beat people.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're so well rounded at every position.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have the best player on the field at every position almost.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: and that's just speak the testament first of all to the evaluating of talent from the staff and it speaks to that they're just again extremely well-coached and know what they're supposed to do and they go out and do it.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's the speech that gets thrown around so time the video of Nick Sabin addressing his team there.
• 13:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: before they beat Georgia in the national championship and he's telling us guys in the locker before the game.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: This game is all about what we do.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's all about what we do.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's literally the same for Indiana.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about what they do better than the other team.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not a whole lot of X's than O's.
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just going out and playing our game.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think as the coach, and again, I've been a part of a team that not a part, but I was around a team that want to state championship and basketball here in Indiana at one point.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw that team and you're around winners, you're around champions.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And as a coach, you know when you have your team, when you have them engaged, when you haven't dialed in and dignity and the staff knows that they have their guys dialed in right
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, and you talk about having the best player at all these positions.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, remember, it's not like this is the healthiest team in the country.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're on their third Ed Russia at this point.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've had to move guys around and and you haven't seen a fault.
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've actually seen the defense play better.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oddly enough.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You go from Wyatt to daily daily.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: probably should have been a first team all big 10 selection this year at the conference and tackles for losses.
• 15:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: He goes down in that fluke at the after the big 10 title game, but the defense is now dominated to straight a pose.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Who you just expected, we're going to be able to put up numbers.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's freaking Alabama and Oregon.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: You think those teams are going to put points on the board.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know,
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know one big play in the running game one good drive to start the game one big play in the running game in the third quarter, and then you know a garbage time touchdown to get him to 22 Right, and this defense They've allowed what 15 touchdowns Again, two of them the other night were garbage time touchdowns
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: When the game really was over, this defense is just dominated the entire season and people are just in awe.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned how people are moving the goal post now on on what the excuse about Indiana is.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost to the point where I think they just they say it.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: because it's just kind of what you do now with this theme, because you can't accept the rise here.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot more people would be able to accept it if this was happening around year five for Kurt Signetti, not year two, and not year one last year.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Last year wasn't a fluke, I think they're better this year, I think the talent's better, the quarterback's better.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: The line plays better.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: The coaching is better to be honest.
• 16:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're adjusting to big 10 level and you're adjusting to playing these big time teams like Ohio State Notre Dame, and now you're beating those caliber teams weekend and week out on your way to
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, playing for an astral champion ship.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the opponent's home stadium, I think for a lot of teams, probably is pretty daunting.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty unheard of, it's pretty rare in sports, but Indiana's gonna go on the road and play Miami at Hard Rock Stadium in the national championship game mic.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, even though that it's a national championship game on the opponent's field, I still feel pretty confident that Indiana can get it done a week from Monday.
• 17:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You got to say that the football gods do have a little bit of a sense of humor because we've talked about all the years.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've, they've crapped on Indiana football.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Indiana football finally gets good.
• 18:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: They finally get to be the number one overall seed and college football.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They play a number one seed in the country.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: They make the national championship game, and it's a true road game on the opponent's own field.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And how many other sports is that even a possibility?
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: But college football, and the one time it happens, it happens to Indiana.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not gonna...
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: You say a road game, Indiana gets 20,000 tickets.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: We know that Miami gets 20,000 tickets.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be a lot of big corporate people at the game.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not really going to be a true Miami home game.
• 18:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And even if it was, it's like Miami has the most, you know, is known to have the most loyal and like ardent college football home fan base.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like LA in a sense where if they're good, yeah, they'll show up.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a hobby down there.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a historic iconic program.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Another opportunity for Indiana to beat one of those on the way.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of one of the old money programs where they were dominant in the 80s, dominated in the 2000s.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But all over the NFL, historically, Ed Reed, Willis McGay, Ray Lewis.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You think about guys who played for Miami through the years,
• 19:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is another chance for Indiana to hang another big skin on the wall, because if you're going to be, if you're going to beat somebody in the national championship game, the you, there's been two ESPN documentaries about this program about how dominant it was, because they were that good.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: That many different times.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to talk a lot more about that game, closer to Monday.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: We will do a preview of that game.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I really look forward to to this match up and break in that one down.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go to Miami-Mike.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've told you I'd text it in my financial advisor.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Somewhere in Tennessee yesterday and said if I call you this week, send it to voicemail because I'm about to make a really, really bad financial decision.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how Mochi listens to his clients.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Great way to put it.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mike, it doesn't sound like there was a whole lot of fun happening at a assembly hall over the weekend, and to be right honest with you, you know, sucks that it was looking like it was going to be good for Indiana there, that, you know, sorry, the game, they collapsed in the second half against some defeated Nebraska in basketball, again, it's like the opposite of, you know, what it has been over the years for the programs now there at Indiana Nebraska.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: they had a complete meltdown lost the game and to be honest to you as the fan yet it it's thanks but at the same time you know this was just little 12 hours removed from winning the peach bowl and going to the national championship that uh it's a game that I think a lot of people kind of overlook a little bit but hey not not a great way to steal a lot less
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: stretch in January.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, Donald, you needed to win this one because A, you were at home, B, you were favored when even though they were a top 10 team and C, you had a 16 point lead in this game in the second half.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You, you have to close that out and look, I had it on the iPad.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: My buddy was driving.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was watching didn't really have a lot of sound to go with it, but, um,
• 21:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very, very passionate response against the officiating in the game that I've seen since it happened.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Talker to Breeze getting in foul trouble in the second half.
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of started the collapse too.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Back to back calls he went from two fouls to four fouls and then about 32 seconds and when he went out the offense just stagnated and you can't do that against a good team.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nebraska's Nebraska's good guess.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've talked about it on this pod before it's hard to really buy it and it's hard to really, you know, believe it when we say it, but
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: They absolutely are good, and that was a huge opportunity for this team to hang a cloth one win on the board, which they don't have yet this year, and they let it literally slip through their hands.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now they go to Michigan State this week, and the Brasland Center.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: has been better to them in recent years, but it's still a place that Indiana's got a lot more losses than they do wins.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And this team, the DNA of this team, to go on the road and win in Lansing, I don't know.
• 23:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have to show me that it's there.
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe that it actually exists.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think this team's a little soft.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think when things get hard,
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: they tend to peat down their legs.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And until they proved to me otherwise, I'm gonna keep having that mindset with this team.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now I'm afraid that's what is gonna happen on Wednesday night.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's gonna be a challenge.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the league is just so tough.
• 23:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I like this team, still, I think that they're
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: more fun to watch than they were last year.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have guys who I think can compete in these kind of games, but when you live and die by three point shooting and being able to put the ball in the basket on a consistent basis, it's gonna get tough to win those kind of games.
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And over the years Indiana, I felt like this even with Archie, I kind of felt like this couple times with Mike Woodson, where they've had Michigan State's number
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things, I don't know if that kind of transitions.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what it is about Indiana that maybe Michigan State struggles with.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But again, we mentioned how there's a lot more losses than wins up there at the Brezones Center and you have that game on Wednesday and then you come back on Saturday afternoon and you play Iowa and again, another daunting challenge.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there are a lot of
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of tough games for this team.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know we're going to continue to talk about it, but there's not one guaranteed win in this long stretch of games for this program right now.
• 24:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, and you want to believe.
• 24:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: At Rutgers coming up.
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, they got that one in the bag.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Rutgers is not a good team this year, but my god, I've seen better in the
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: absolutely pooped their pants.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: This team is just, it's still in a proven mode, and they still haven't proven that they're going to be able to hang with the best teams on their schedule, and they've got plenty of opportunities to do that over the rest of this month, but letting a 16 point lead at homes flip through your fingers and another quad one loss on the board.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: isn't a good look, just not in the big tin.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to be one of those teams, it gets a buy in the conference tournament, not even a double buy.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: In the end, it's not really a team.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm expecting to be in that mix of teams.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if you want to be a team that's in that top nine and it doesn't have to play on the first day of the tournament, you've got to win those games.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: You've got to take advantage of those opportunities.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: and they let another one through and now you've got to win a game that you're not supposed to win and Michigan State certainly seems to qualify as that.
• 26:53
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