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Moving from the Pain of Grief Through the Process of the My V.I.S.I.O.N. Framework to the Progress of Gratitude · Live Your Legacy

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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Live Your Legacy.
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SPEAKER_02: Where every story holds a turning point.
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SPEAKER_02: And every turning point holds the power of legacy.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Live Your Legacy, the conversational podcast where we explore how life's defining moments shape the legacy we leave behind.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Patricia D.
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SPEAKER_00: Freudenberg, also known as Patty from New York, and this show is rooted in the simple truth.
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SPEAKER_00: Grief is not always about death.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it comes through life's changes, losses, detours, and new beginnings.
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SPEAKER_00: And here we speak with entrepreneurs, authors, leaders, and creators who have turned their life's defining moments into meaningful work and lasting contributions.
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SPEAKER_00: Because legacy is not only what we leave behind, it's what we are shaping right now through vision, impact, and purpose.
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SPEAKER_00: Today I am honored to welcome our special guest, Pastor Jeff Moffitt.
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SPEAKER_00: Come on in, who is a speaker, pastor, neurodivergent advocate who has overcome an extraordinary series of life challenges, including being born premature, scarlet fever, abuse, homelessness, domestic violence, molestation, and cancer.
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SPEAKER_00: And he's here to emerge us as a powerful voice of gratitude and resilience.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you for being here, Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: PJ, Pastor Jeff Moffat.
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SPEAKER_00: How are you today?
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SPEAKER_00: And thank you for being here.
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SPEAKER_03: Patty from New York.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm super fantastic.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm honored to be on your podcast and to be able to share my story with you and your audience.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get right into it.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get right into it today, ladies and gentlemen.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna ask Pastor Jeff the first question.
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SPEAKER_00: Would you agree or disagree that hindsight is 2020?
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SPEAKER_00: Pastor Jeff, over to you.
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SPEAKER_03: That's a very good question.
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SPEAKER_03: I think a lot of people would immediately say that hindsight is 2020.
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SPEAKER_03: But 2020 is what you consider to be the average well vision level of vision.
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SPEAKER_03: I believe that hindsight can be even better than 2020.
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SPEAKER_03: Because when you learn the lessons of life, when you go through what they call the streets of hard knocks, when you've been knocked down, where you have to turn over to look up, like Les Brown says, I believe that gives you better than 2020.
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SPEAKER_03: And that allows you to see things that you wouldn't have seen at 2020, because now you can see the very small, minute, incredi parts of life that you had just ignored.
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SPEAKER_03: Why?
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SPEAKER_03: Because you have the experience.
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unknown: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, that was really great.
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SPEAKER_00: That was a great segue into our next question.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you for that.
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SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you.
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SPEAKER_00: Can you take us back a moment and share with us a pivotal moment that changed the direction of your life or work or both?
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SPEAKER_03: Oh a pivotal moment.
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SPEAKER_00: Might be a lot, but one that sticks out right now, anyway.
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SPEAKER_03: The most important one, I think, was in 1979.
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SPEAKER_03: I was in Korea.
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SPEAKER_03: And I wanted to be a pastor, a preacher as a child, unlike many of my contemporaries, that they have the stories of they ran, and that's pretty common.
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SPEAKER_03: But as a child, I could I've always believed in God, loved God, and wanted to be a part with God.
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SPEAKER_03: So I wanted to go to church.
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SPEAKER_03: As I joined the military after high school, I did what most teenagers would do.
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SPEAKER_03: I into the world, into coming up with a father that was very strict.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, I enjoyed my freedom.
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SPEAKER_03: So I assigned a career, got there, and literally, Patty, you know, when they talk about you can't straggle the fence, the church was right across the street from the club.
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SPEAKER_03: During the week, I go to how come to choir rehearsal at the church and then go to the club first and get the seat, then go to the choir rehearsal and then come back because I got a seat at the club.
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SPEAKER_03: And there was a gentleman there that was higher ranking than I was, and he kept pardon me, he kept, I was low ranking.
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SPEAKER_03: He's Moffat, why don't you come to church with me?
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SPEAKER_03: Moffat, don't you come to church with me?
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SPEAKER_03: Now, this was a different service than the general service.
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SPEAKER_03: And one day I just got tired, Patty.
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SPEAKER_03: You know, something like that net that keeps you, you want to swatch.
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SPEAKER_00: The nudge, the nudge, that annoying nudge.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I said, okay, I'm gonna go.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna, I'm gonna go.
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SPEAKER_03: And I went up and my ideology, I'm just gonna be completely transparent.
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SPEAKER_03: That area of the base is where the medical facilities were, and in the medical facilities and an admin in the army back in the 70s, mostly females.
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SPEAKER_03: So I was single and I said, Hey, the worst thing that can happen, there's a lot of women up there.
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SPEAKER_03: I might be able to connect with one.
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SPEAKER_00: Now you're thinking, okay.
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SPEAKER_03: So I go up and I'm in the service, I'm enjoying the service, and there was a spiritual transformation while I was there.
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SPEAKER_03: I went up for one reason, and when I left, I'll just put it this way because I don't want to frighten your listeners off, but there was a spiritual language and some some spiritual experience, and I knew then that I had preached my first sermon and that it was now time for me to get back to what my desire was as a child.
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SPEAKER_03: And from that time to this time, I have walked in the steps of being a messenger of the most high.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, certainly pivotal, certainly pivotal.
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SPEAKER_00: And I could feel you going right back there, right?
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SPEAKER_00: I could feel you going right back there.
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SPEAKER_00: That was beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: You brought us with you, so thank you for that.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, that's amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: So, what challenge would you say was a blessing in disguise?
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SPEAKER_03: The challenge that was a blessing in disguise.
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SPEAKER_03: Now, this one, I don't have to think long.
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SPEAKER_03: Patty, after 20 years of active duty service and a blessing to go right into a career after I retired, I'm working for a company out of Atlanta, working in tech, good salary and comfortable.
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SPEAKER_03: I get a phone call that says we're having a company meeting.
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SPEAKER_03: And it's a small, it's a small company.
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SPEAKER_03: They were a startup.
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SPEAKER_03: I go to the meeting, and I think the only time in my life, no, that was the first time, they gave me a pink slip.
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SPEAKER_03: The company was belly up bankrupt.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
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SPEAKER_03: Took the pink slip home, put it in a drawer.
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SPEAKER_03: This is crazy.
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SPEAKER_03: God talked to me.
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SPEAKER_03: He said, You are not unemployed.
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SPEAKER_03: Go to work.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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SPEAKER_03: Patty, you probably never heard anybody say this.
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SPEAKER_03: I went to work for three months, like nothing had happened, like I never received a pink slip because God said you're not unemployed.
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SPEAKER_03: So I'm not unemployed, that means I go to work.
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SPEAKER_03: So I did.
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SPEAKER_03: First one it was okay.
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SPEAKER_03: I had to tell my wife, of course.
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SPEAKER_03: Now imagine what you would do.
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SPEAKER_03: If you your husband came home and said, I got a pink slip, but God said I'm not unemployed, so I'm going to work.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, she humored me the first.
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SPEAKER_00: I could see, I could see that being complicated.
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SPEAKER_03: That was a test.
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SPEAKER_03: She's nudging me a little bit, but maybe she feels like I'm just in denial.
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SPEAKER_03: And ultimately, in the third month, it's time for you to get a job, right?
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SPEAKER_03: But in that third month, what happened was a new company came in, and the way the government works, my position had already been funded.
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SPEAKER_03: There was nobody better to fill the position than the person who was in it.
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SPEAKER_03: So, of course, when I applied, put my application in, nobody nobody else could do it better because that's what I had been doing.
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SPEAKER_03: And there was really something new on the on the base.
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SPEAKER_03: And so they hired me.
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SPEAKER_03: And the most beautiful blessing of it was since it had had already been funded, God said, remember, I was not unemployed.
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SPEAKER_03: In order for that to be true, I would have to get paid for the three months that I worked.
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SPEAKER_03: Otherwise, I was unemployed for three months and I worked for free.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow, what a story.
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SPEAKER_03: That was one of the most challenging decisions that I had to make.
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SPEAKER_03: Because if you really think about it, and if I think about it now, who does that?
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SPEAKER_03: Who goes to work for someplace for three months?
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SPEAKER_03: And then how do the folks there not know that you're not getting paid?
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SPEAKER_03: No, but fortunately, the company was out of Atlanta.
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SPEAKER_03: I went and I did what I had to do, which kept the system working during that three months, and it gave me a great story to be able to tell folks about faith.
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SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: That is amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so that blew me away.
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SPEAKER_00: This is getting really good.
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SPEAKER_00: Moving on to the next question because we could talk about that all day long.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was great.
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SPEAKER_00: Who has been the most memorable mentor in your life and why?
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SPEAKER_00: And again, when I say who, it might be more than one, and it's okay if you want to share, but who comes to the top of your mind?
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SPEAKER_00: Or maybe it's one, two, or three.
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SPEAKER_00: Let us know mentors in your life and why.
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SPEAKER_03: Now, this may sound crazy, crazier than what I just shared.
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SPEAKER_03: As a neurodivergent, different my entire life, and moving around and seeking to have a person, a human to mentor me, but never really getting what I was looking for.
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SPEAKER_03: My mentor really became, I would say, for some would say it's the character of Jesus Christ in the Bible.
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SPEAKER_03: For me, it's the reality that's my reality.
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SPEAKER_03: And I realize that some folks don't rock with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm fine with that, and I respect it, but I really believe in the power of belief, and it's what I believe.
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SPEAKER_03: I've believed it all of my life.
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SPEAKER_03: The reason, really quick, is one as a child, we had this thing.
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SPEAKER_03: I grew up in Detroit, Michigan, born in Knoxville, Tennessee.
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SPEAKER_03: My dad migrated to Detroit when I was 10 months old.
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SPEAKER_03: We had this thing in the church back then called the prayer band.
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SPEAKER_03: And the prayer band was a group of people who didn't have jobs or just didn't work, I don't know, one either or both.
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SPEAKER_03: And the paragraph would travel from members to members' house and pray for the for whatever needed to be prayed for.
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SPEAKER_03: And Patty, I remember there we're they're praying, and the lady's house that we went to had a stroke, and her hand was bought up from the stroke.
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SPEAKER_03: My dad prayed for her, and when we left, that lady was using her hand.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow, and so I've seen in other miracles that I have seen for myself that no one can take away from me.
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SPEAKER_03: And so my mentor has really been the persona of the Jesus that's portrayed in the New Testament.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, miracles.
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SPEAKER_00: Could we use the word miracles?
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, miracles.
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SPEAKER_00: It takes God to create miracles.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank God, as we say, but that's the word that's coming to mind now is miracles.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's absolutely beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: And I listen, I'm with you.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh Jesus is a mentor, absolutely, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you and you're looking at a miracle.
13:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you for sharing that because that will inspire somebody.
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SPEAKER_00: We might not know who is watching, but somebody needs to hear this, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Somebody needs to hear this.
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SPEAKER_00: So thank you, Pastor Jeff.
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SPEAKER_00: Going on to the next question.
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SPEAKER_00: Was there a revelation of or personal motto or lesson that helped guide your journey?
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SPEAKER_00: Teach us, tell us lessons, mottos, revelations, and they're all coming together in your stories, but we want more.
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SPEAKER_00: We want more.
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SPEAKER_03: There's been many.
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SPEAKER_03: The one that was my rock and my anchor, this actually combination.
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SPEAKER_03: There's a song, particularly by Douglas Miller, When the Storms of Life Are Raging, My Soul is Anchored in the Lord.
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SPEAKER_03: And then there's a passage in the number one best-selling book of all time.
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SPEAKER_03: Some may know it as the Bible, that would suggest, and that I held on to for years until I got a different revelation from it.
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SPEAKER_03: And it suggests that all things work together for the good of the creator, for those that are called by him and are here for his purpose.
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SPEAKER_03: That was my rock for many years.
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SPEAKER_03: Every trauma that I went through, every everything that I felt knocked me down, that was what I'm like.
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SPEAKER_03: If I can see the good in it, then I move from releasing cortisol from stress and the negative hormones, I move into the positive because you can't experience both negative hormones and positive hormones at the same time.
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SPEAKER_03: And so when I can see the good, my mind, my subconscious transfers to the positive hormones, which is better for me mentally, better for me spiritually, and better for me physically, because I'm not releasing that negative stress.
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SPEAKER_03: Later, as I studied more and as I came closer and I re I repurposed or redefined prayer as just a simple conversation with our Creator, I looked at it from a different perspective.
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SPEAKER_03: And some may agree or some may disagree, is that from that particular passage, I think the writer was really looking within and was a little bit selfish.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I reprocessed it and said, it the way it's written now, it's really all about me.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm called for purpose.
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SPEAKER_03: I love him.
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SPEAKER_03: But is it really about me?
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SPEAKER_03: And so I reprodu it, Patty, and it's still my walk.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow, all things work for the good of my creator, and if they work for his good, they absolutely have to work for mine.
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SPEAKER_03: How can you go negative?
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SPEAKER_03: Everything that happens to me is gonna work for his good, whether I understand it, whether I see it, whether I like it or not.
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SPEAKER_03: And ultimately, if you think about it, if you have to go around the corner, you can't see what's around the corner until you get there.
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SPEAKER_03: Wow, it the pot of gold is around the corner, and you have to process that everything that happens on your journey to it is happening so that you can get to the pot of gold.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, that was a really great analogy.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: I love that you can't see around the corner, but I love that declaration you made right before that.
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SPEAKER_00: Gosh, I'm glad it's on.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad it's we have it on replay here.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad about that because that was a really strong statement.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't even want to try to repeat it because I'll mess it all up.
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SPEAKER_00: That was beautifully delivered.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you again.
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SPEAKER_00: We're here with Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: PJ, Pastor Jeff Moffitt.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna we're gonna keep asking some more questions because we're interested, we're curious.
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SPEAKER_00: What would you say to your younger self?
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SPEAKER_03: What would I say to my younger self?
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SPEAKER_03: I would tell my younger self, no matter what happens to you, no matter what people say, no matter what illnesses may come, never give up.
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SPEAKER_03: See gratitude rather than complaining, and life will work out for you.
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SPEAKER_00: Did everybody get that?
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SPEAKER_00: That's beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a message to all of us, not only your younger self, but to all of us.
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SPEAKER_00: That was really beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: What wisdom would you want your future self to keep holding on to?
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SPEAKER_03: That's a question that I've heard often.
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SPEAKER_03: And being a neurodivergent, I process it different than most.
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SPEAKER_03: It's my belief system that there is no future, it is no past.
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SPEAKER_03: This is interesting.
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SPEAKER_03: Keep going, only the present.
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SPEAKER_03: And so, what I would tell if there was a future self, I would tell my future self, live in the present because your future's not promised.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, strong stuff today.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: That's that was beautiful.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: That was absolutely beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: I keep saying that because everything you're saying is just amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm so honored to have you on the show today.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for really diving deep.
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SPEAKER_00: What does legacy mean to you personally, Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: PJ?
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SPEAKER_03: What does legacy mean to me personally, Patty?
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SPEAKER_03: Is it's threefold.
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SPEAKER_03: Being a man of spirituality, legacy for me means that I carry on the legacy of the God that I believe in and that I read in the Bible based off of John 17, and that is what I consider to be the Lord's Prayer rather than John, rather than Matthew 6, because that's a conversation between the Father and the Son.
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SPEAKER_03: And there was nothing that the Son asked for that the Father didn't give him.
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SPEAKER_03: And his conversation was that one, his disciples would become a part of that oneness, and then that all that believed in him afterwards would also become.
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SPEAKER_03: So since I'm a part of that oneness, I live out the legacy of what was then called the followers of the way.
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SPEAKER_03: That's one aspect.
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SPEAKER_03: The second aspect is my heritage, my ancestry.
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SPEAKER_03: I get an opportunity to either be the one that puts the red light up, or I'm the one that keeps it on track and moves it forward.
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SPEAKER_03: So there's a responsibility that I have to do the best that I can for my family and prepare my son and my son's children, or my son's, and prepare my grandchildren to keep the baton moving.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: And then ultimately, what I have no control over is what do my children and my children's children do and their perspective to legacy and how they carry that out.
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SPEAKER_03: That's the aspect that I have no control over.
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SPEAKER_03: Really, then at that point, not only what are they doing based off of my mentoring and my teaching, but it's also what are they saying when I've transitioned from life temporal to life everlasting?
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SPEAKER_03: What are they saying when I graduate from this school of life to the next school of life?
21:49
SPEAKER_00: You must be reading my mind because my next question is what do you hope people remember most about the way you lived, worked, or served?
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SPEAKER_03: Patty, that's a profound question.
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SPEAKER_03: And the truth of it is all I really want them to remember, not so much Jeffrey Franklin Moffitt, not Dr.
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SPEAKER_03: PJ, not Pastor Jeff.
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SPEAKER_03: I want them to remember that I was a soul that made an impact in their life and encouraged them to sew it forward.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Leaving an imprint is certainly fulfilling purpose, right?
22:35
SPEAKER_00: It seems like it anyway.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for that.
22:37
SPEAKER_00: Beautiful.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: Again, beautiful, amazing.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what you're gonna get here.
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SPEAKER_00: Beautiful and amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Moving on.
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SPEAKER_00: If you could do it all over again, would you change anything?
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SPEAKER_00: Or did you ever think part of your journey?
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SPEAKER_00: Would you do it all over again?
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SPEAKER_00: Or did your journey have purpose, even the hard stuff?
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SPEAKER_00: And I'd love to hear that again.
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SPEAKER_00: These are tough questions sometimes, but let's let's talk about it.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's hear it.
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SPEAKER_03: I process that question.
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SPEAKER_03: I can't see it in my head.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm conceptualizing it.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_03: What I remember is I've heard that question asked.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know how many times I've heard people answer it.
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SPEAKER_03: And if I'm truthful, the majority of the people say that yes, they would do it all over again.
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SPEAKER_03: Especially folks who correct.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I do inventory, so correct.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, continue.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_03: When I think about that question, there's dichotomy of humanness.
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SPEAKER_03: One part of me inside says, yes, I would do it all over again because it got me to where I'm at, and everything has had purpose and it's all worked out.
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SPEAKER_03: There's another side of me that says, knowing what I know now, and I could go back and do it again, I could make a greater impact.
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SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't make the same mistakes that I made.
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SPEAKER_03: It wouldn't stop me from going through some of the trauma that I experienced, but then I would have more tools to get through that trauma.
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SPEAKER_03: I would have more tools to get through the difficult parts of life.
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SPEAKER_03: And so ultimately half of me says yes, half of me says no.
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SPEAKER_03: But the question is, I'm grateful for where I'm at.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow, that was a great answer.
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SPEAKER_00: Leave it at that.
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SPEAKER_00: That was a great it by the way, though, you're not the majority of that answer.
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SPEAKER_00: One in ten answer it that way.
24:47
SPEAKER_00: I take notice of that question too.
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SPEAKER_00: It is a question we've heard often, and I can't help to take inventory.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: So you are correct in that.
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SPEAKER_00: Most people answer it the other way, and there's no wrong or right, no wrong or right answer here.
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SPEAKER_00: We're just be speaking our truth.
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SPEAKER_00: So thank you for your vulnerability.
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SPEAKER_00: It matters.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is our signature question before we get into everything else that you're doing, which I'm excited for everybody to hear.
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SPEAKER_00: What is something about your journey that most people would be surprised to learn?
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SPEAKER_03: Something about my journey that most people would be surprised to learn.
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SPEAKER_03: I think the majority of the people that know me now would be surprised to learn that I did not like my voice until I joined the audio app.
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SPEAKER_03: Clubhouse.
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SPEAKER_03: I was in the military, I was often asked to be the MC or master of ceremony.
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SPEAKER_03: But I never liked the sound of my voice when I listened to it.
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SPEAKER_03: And Clubhouse changed that.
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SPEAKER_03: Ultimately, I would get compliments, I get asked to do resets, and that's just going in a room, kind of doing the information for those who aren't on Clubhouse.
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SPEAKER_03: And that's how I became as popular as I am on Clubhouse from just going into rooms and really my voice.
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SPEAKER_03: And I had to have a deep conversation with me, myself, and I.
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SPEAKER_03: And that conversation was if that's the voice that God has given you, and these people validate that He gave you something precious, who in the heck are you to say you don't like it?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that's something I think people would be surprised at.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I did not like my voice until Clubhouse.
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SPEAKER_00: And by that statement, you just gave somebody a voice.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: Because what the funny part is about it is that I'm sure we could both agree, plenty of people have complimented you, not only on your shares and your words of wisdom, but your voice.
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SPEAKER_00: You you just happen to have a very smooth voice, especially for podcasting.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's very funny that is something that you were challenged with in your own mind, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Again, you just gave a voice to somebody with that statement.
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SPEAKER_00: So we thank you for that.
27:27
SPEAKER_00: So now we're gonna get onto the let me add one more thing.
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SPEAKER_03: If I can come on, tell us because since you said I help folks, basically, as a child, I was silenced.
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SPEAKER_03: We were taught children are are to be seen and not heard, and only seen when asked to show up.
27:43
SPEAKER_03: And so my voice was suppressed as a child, and the part of that, because of that, I didn't speak, other than even as a pastor and as a preacher, I would speak.
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SPEAKER_03: But after that, I'd go back to that subconscious mind: children are to be seen and not heard, and clubhouse listening through of God through other people, whether they believe that or not, and Him reminding me that I gave you the voice, and nobody can quiet it but you.
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SPEAKER_03: And so I had the key in me all the time, and so yeah, that allowed me to realize that I have a voice, I have something to say, and what I have to say has substance.
28:33
SPEAKER_00: And may I add, Pastor Jeff, Dr.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: PJ is a force to be reckoned with, is a force to be reckoned with.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: No, seriously, Dr.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: PJ, before we wrap it up, where could we find you?
28:49
SPEAKER_00: I want to share with the people's your amazing website.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: Tell us a little bit more about the work you're doing now.
28:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna pull up the website.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: So I'm just gonna let's take a side seat over here so we could share this good stuff that you're doing.
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SPEAKER_00: Tell us a little bit more about the stuff you're doing, and then we're gonna grab the book.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna go on this page, check out your book.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: I know you have a book out there, but tell us, talk to us.
29:13
SPEAKER_03: So, welcome to i Inspire Consultation, inspiring you to inspire others is all about really being inspired, looking at whatever happens to you and getting inspiration from it so that you can operate in gratitude.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Gratitude is the underlying word.
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SPEAKER_03: And so there's consultation on the site.
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SPEAKER_03: I do marriage counseling, I do grief counseling.
29:40
SPEAKER_03: One of the superpowers of an in fact, a person who has affantation, AFAT, is that we are problem solvers.
29:50
SPEAKER_03: And I have had this ability, this gift that I talk with folks and solutions automatically come to my mind.
29:59
SPEAKER_03: Then I have a at no cost to you, I don't like the word free, Patty, because somebody has to pay.
30:06
SPEAKER_03: There's investment from someone, and so at no cost to you, there is a my ebook embracing gratitude and grief.
30:14
SPEAKER_03: And this was inspired during the COVID time frame when I had to eulogize or I got an opportunity to eulogize a pretty substantial part of our congregation, as well as family, friends, and even people, neighbors, is neighbors, loved ones.
30:35
SPEAKER_03: I got to the point, Patty, that I'm like, God, if you don't give me something, I can't keep saying the same things over and over again.
30:42
SPEAKER_03: And even during that time frame, I customize all of my eulogies based off of the information I get from the families.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't like a cookie color, a cookie cutter eulogy because I think it deserves the individual and their legacy.
30:59
SPEAKER_03: And so I'm like, I'm having this conversation.
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SPEAKER_03: What do I tell the people?
31:03
SPEAKER_03: I'm tired of telling, I can't do the same thing.
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SPEAKER_03: And little did I know God gave me two analogies.
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SPEAKER_03: One is that this thing that we call death, I call it transitioning from life temporal to life everlasting, is like a commissment exercise for parents, guardians of their child that graduates from high school.
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SPEAKER_03: This is the first big commissment.
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SPEAKER_03: We got the other ones, little ones, but this is big.
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SPEAKER_03: And so you're celebrating this euphoria, there's an excitement of this great accomplishment.
31:38
SPEAKER_03: And then there's the roller coaster, there's the flood of reality that I'm losing this person, I'm losing control.
31:46
SPEAKER_03: They may move out, their presence is not here, and now they go through this stage of grief, depression, and anxiety, and understanding that it's a bittersweet moment.
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SPEAKER_03: You learn, or you should learn, if you can see the gratitude in it, then you minimize and you get through that negative side.
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SPEAKER_03: And then the second, oh, this one was so powerful for me.
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SPEAKER_03: If you can garden, if you anybody that gardens should get this.
32:20
SPEAKER_03: If you look in the garden, the gardener plants the seeds, the gardener takes care of the flowers, the gardener pulls the weeds out, and the gardener celebrates the flower.
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SPEAKER_03: And if the gardener chooses to go to the garden and take a flower from the garden, that flower belongs to the gardener.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: And God said, You are my flower that I planted in the place that you call earth.
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SPEAKER_03: I've nourished you, I've taken care of you, and I've allowed others to enjoy the fragrance, if you will, and the beauty of the flower that loved one was to him.
33:04
SPEAKER_03: And he says, I have the right to pick my flower anytime that I want, and you should be grateful for the time that I let you enjoy what was mine.
33:17
SPEAKER_00: Wow, that was a sermon right there.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: That was a sermon right there.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: Seriously, we have the website right there, pastorjeffspeaks.com.
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SPEAKER_00: If you go to the page, what will happen is you will go to the top right corner and it's my gift to you, and then it will bring you right here to the book.
33:39
SPEAKER_00: So get the book, it's it will you'll find meaning.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: You'll find meaning.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: It's a beautiful message to the world and to help you right to help to inspire to motivate to educate and all of the above.
33:53
SPEAKER_00: You've heard Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: PJ here share a little bit of where he's coming from, and you're gonna get more of that in this book, and you will be empowered.
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SPEAKER_00: Can you give us some closing remarks, PJ, Pastor Jeff?
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SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
34:08
SPEAKER_03: I also have conversations with God from the war in Afghanistan, a 31-day devotional that can be used.
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SPEAKER_03: It's recycled.
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SPEAKER_03: You can use it every 30 or every 31 days.
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SPEAKER_03: That's on Amazon.
34:21
SPEAKER_03: And it also has a journal of the same name that goes along with it.
34:25
SPEAKER_03: As I think about my passion for my vision framework, and I say that being one who has a fantasia, there's a grief that impacts neurodivergence go through because people don't understand us being different.
34:42
SPEAKER_03: And so my closing remarks would be very simple.
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SPEAKER_03: And my framework of my vision is to remember the validate that all of us are human, it's humanity.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what we have in common.
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SPEAKER_03: We're all human.
35:01
SPEAKER_03: Then I invite curiosity by asking questions.
35:04
SPEAKER_03: Some people don't want to ask questions.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: If you see a person that you feel is different, ask questions.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: You might be surprised at how much you have in common.
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SPEAKER_03: Then see the person and not the difference.
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SPEAKER_03: If we can focus on the person, focus on what they bring, focus on their value.
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SPEAKER_03: Some of the differences don't matter.
35:24
SPEAKER_03: Patty, what kind of world would it be if all of us were the same and investigate without judgment?
35:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm just going to tell you, it's easy for us to go through our subconscious mind and first judge anything that is contrary to our morals, our values, what we've been taught.
35:42
SPEAKER_03: When that first instant comes, stop.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm not going to judge and do some research.
35:49
SPEAKER_03: Educate yourself to the differences in the person.
35:53
SPEAKER_03: Then the O is open your mind to the world of the other person.
35:58
SPEAKER_03: The late Stephen Covey would say, have a paradigm shift.
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SPEAKER_03: I like to say that everybody has a set of different colored tinted glasses that they see the world through.
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SPEAKER_03: Do some research so that you can at least try to experience the color that other people see through.
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SPEAKER_03: And if you can't, at least relate and respect it.
36:20
SPEAKER_03: And then the end finally, neurodivergence.
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SPEAKER_03: Folks need to know it's not a mental illness, it's not a medical condition.
36:29
SPEAKER_03: The person is not broken.
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SPEAKER_03: I can't tell you how many times people wanted to fix me and fix my son, find a label to put on us that they couldn't find.
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SPEAKER_03: Why it's W A P W W B D because we were different.
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SPEAKER_03: So what is that?
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SPEAKER_03: Look, my friends, we are people who were born different, and that's a good thing.
36:52
SPEAKER_03: I'd like to leave this for anyone that's watching today.
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SPEAKER_03: As you look at Patty, Patty has an absolutely beautiful smile, and you do too.
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SPEAKER_03: And if you don't believe Dr.
37:03
SPEAKER_03: PJ, just do yourself and do me a favor.
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SPEAKER_03: Go find yourself a mirror.
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SPEAKER_03: Smile at yourself in the mirror.
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SPEAKER_03: And I guarantee you, whether you got teeth or no teeth, whether some are missing or all of there, yourself is gonna smile back at you.
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SPEAKER_03: Take that in whatever you believe in divinity and your spirituality to say to you that you are a beautiful person, just like you are.
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SPEAKER_03: Now you got to sew it forward.
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SPEAKER_03: So when you go out today, smile at everybody that you come in contact with because smiles are contagious, and frowns are frightening.
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SPEAKER_03: And I guarantee you, one more thing.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't do a lot of promising, I'll do a lot of guaranteeing, but I promise you, if you smile, everybody you come in contact with, you're gonna get more smiles back than you frowns, and that is gonna help you live longer because you're gonna have less stress, Patty.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you, and that was a great message for today.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: The universal language smile.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
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SPEAKER_00: This was Live Your Legacy today.
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SPEAKER_00: We had Pastor Jeff Moffitt, Dr.
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SPEAKER_00: PJ.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Pastor Jeff.
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SPEAKER_00: And we are out of here.
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SPEAKER_00: Have an amazing day, everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you, and God bless.
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