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Dirty Rush: Don’t tell mom the babysitters dead: Why can’t these girls take care of themselves! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sororiti Life with
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  Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice.
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  Speaker 2: Davey Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hi you guys, welcome back
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  Speaker 2: to another episode of Dirty Rush, and we are going
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  Speaker 2: to continue our conversation with the women who know it
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  Speaker 2: all and they are our house moms house directors, depending
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  Speaker 2: who you talk to. So our next guest is Shanna. Welcome, Shanna.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Hi, it's so nice speaker.
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  Speaker 2: You're so nice to meet you, and I'm so glad
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  Speaker 2: to see you because we have been speaking with house directors.
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  Speaker 2: The last one that we spoke to was twenty four,
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  Speaker 2: and so I'm trying to figure out how someone my age,
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  Speaker 2: which I think we're probably around the same age, gets
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  Speaker 2: involved with this. And I'm in a little bit in
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  Speaker 2: awe of you, I have to say, as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: someone you know, younger like our last guests, but what
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  Speaker 2: a job for you to have? This cannot be I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure it's wonderful and fun but also difficult and exhausting.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of jobs are like that, fair enough, and
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  Speaker 1: so this one you get a lot of good perks
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  Speaker 1: with it too, So it probably bounces.
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  Speaker 2: Out how long have you been doing this twelve years?
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  Speaker 2: Twelve years is a lot of years, and I correct
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  Speaker 2: that you did this. You were a house director for
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  Speaker 2: a fraternity. I was for four years, okay, okay, then.
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  Speaker 1: Sorority, and then I'm a consultant now for sorties across
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  Speaker 1: the country. So I've had kind of a different perspective
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  Speaker 1: because I've been able to see a lot of different
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  Speaker 1: sizes of groups and Greek organizations and fraternities and sororities,
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  Speaker 1: and also the house mom versus house director versus property manager. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you know, choices that people make now just because of
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  Speaker 1: the size of the organization primarily.
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  Speaker 2: So okay, So I had a house mom when I
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  Speaker 2: was in a sorority named Aunt Millie. So we're going
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  Speaker 2: back hundreds of years, of course, but I now is
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  Speaker 2: it just you could still say house mom? Is that?
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  Speaker 2: Do Some women like it? Some women don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's honestly, the size of the organization
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  Speaker 1: and the size of the school. There are still some
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  Speaker 1: small schools that have house moms, and most house moms
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  Speaker 1: are very proud to be called that. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of them have been doing it for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of years. And so it's it's a compliment.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I think to those ladies that are less on the
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  Speaker 1: property management side, you know, they're going to be more
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  Speaker 1: you know, in a house of seven to nine girls,
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  Speaker 1: probably no more than twenty, got it in pretty small organizations,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be the ones that order the food,
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  Speaker 1: that cook, you know, that make sure the house is clean,
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  Speaker 1: that make sure the girls are safe. And it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot more. Probably what your situation was.
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  Speaker 2: We had, well, we had a lot of girls, but
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  Speaker 2: we definitely called her house mom and she was definitely
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  Speaker 2: felt very maternal. Right, so you are, you're house director?
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  Speaker 2: So is there so you live in a house with
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure a ton of young girls are the school.
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  Speaker 1: I've been calls it a property manager because we have
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  Speaker 1: four hundred in organizations and we feed them twice a day,
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  Speaker 1: which is massive. So we have a staff of six
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to stop for a minute.
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  Speaker 2: You're in charge of four hundred Yes, God bless you,
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  Speaker 2: my friend.
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  Speaker 1: Ye me. Well, a lot different, That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot different. Our houses hold about forty people
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  Speaker 1: that actually live in, but the chapter rooms and the
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  Speaker 1: dining room seat four hundred. So now they're not little
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  Speaker 1: houses anymore. It's like running a motel.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, yeah, I could totally see that. So i'
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  Speaker 2: mean sure there are I'm sure there are obvious differences
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  Speaker 2: between working for the fraternity as opposed to the sorority.
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  Speaker 2: But anything that we wouldn't guess, I mean I would
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  Speaker 2: think that it would be well, I don't know which
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  Speaker 2: is harder.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, they're different, because, uh, the things that I
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  Speaker 1: loved about the fraternity were probably the things that are
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  Speaker 1: very similar to sororities, because it was funny you come
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  Speaker 1: in the dining room and you hear them talking about
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  Speaker 1: a recipe that they cooked, or you know, some perfect
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  Speaker 1: way to grill out, or you know, planning a party.
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  Speaker 1: They have the same questions and you know they wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make it the best they could. And so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest difference I saw will make you laugh. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: when men drink too much, they tend to get angry sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: where women ugly cry. Yeah, that is the biggest difference
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  Speaker 1: I've seen.
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  Speaker 2: So I think I think if I had to choose,
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  Speaker 2: I would choose an ugly crier. I think that's just
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  Speaker 2: me that we're an angry drunk, but I mean nice
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  Speaker 2: for both.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One of the best parts of this What are the
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  Speaker 2: most fulfilling parts of this?
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  Speaker 1: See the growth? I think the leadership. Oh, most of
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  Speaker 1: the students I've seen in the Argurent organizations or movers
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  Speaker 1: and shakers, they're the leaders. They're going to be the
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  Speaker 1: CFOs and the COEO CEOs. And to see them take
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  Speaker 1: leadership roles in their organizations and just blossom, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And so many of them are much more prepared when
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  Speaker 1: they leave college because they've already had to get four
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  Speaker 1: hundred people to agree on something, yeah, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: that's huge. Yeah, so they're already leaders, and their budgets
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  Speaker 1: are massive. I mean when they throw a party, now
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  Speaker 1: it's a twenty thousand dollars party. You imagine, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just completely different. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Were you in a sority, yes, okay, yes, okay, because
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't like that for us back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: It was not twenty thousand dollars. It was probably if
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  Speaker 2: it was fifteen hundred, it was a good day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was probably the whole budget. Yeah, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: now it's complete. It's so different. But it also depends
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  Speaker 1: on what reagon the country in and how big the
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  Speaker 1: organization itself is right there. I mean, it's a massive
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  Speaker 1: industry now. Where it formerly was the chapter itself owned
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  Speaker 1: the house probably and the chapter alumnae probably. We're making
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  Speaker 1: the rules, where now there's so many national organizations that
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  Speaker 1: it's they're the ones mandating the organizational rules. And then
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  Speaker 1: some of the house directors or house moms their property managers,
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  Speaker 1: whatever their title are work for the state, which is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Really if it's a state supportive school, they often are employees.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So it's really a different world than what it was
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  Speaker 1: forty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so, in the form of house director that your
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  Speaker 2: career has taken you, are you able to develop close
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  Speaker 2: relationships with the girls or is it more sort of
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  Speaker 2: you're so busy running the logistics? Is that as much
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  Speaker 2: do you do both?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you live on You live with these ladies seven
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  Speaker 1: days a week, twenty four hours a day for eight
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  Speaker 1: months a year, and so you get to know every name.
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  Speaker 1: You get to know their personalities, their quirks, their their hopes,
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  Speaker 1: their aspirations, and I you know, yeah, you get to
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  Speaker 1: know them all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, is that is that one of the parts.
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  Speaker 2: I would think that would be the most fulfilling.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, just to see them become who they
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  Speaker 1: want to be and be comfortable in their own skin.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of men and women that come into college
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  Speaker 1: that have been hovered upon by their parents aren't sure
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  Speaker 1: who they're going to be. Yeah, And and organizations like
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  Speaker 1: Greek organizations tend to really push you to be who
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  Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, And that's really interesting sometimes to see
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  Speaker 1: how that transition works. It's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: That is really cool. I never thought that that that
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  Speaker 2: being a house. It's still I would get real It's
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  Speaker 2: not something that I can handle. There's just no way
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  Speaker 2: I would not I could barely handle my two kids,
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  Speaker 2: so I would not know. I would not be equipped.
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  Speaker 2: But the way that you're describing it, I mean it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like, yeah, it would be fulfilling. I'd like the
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  Speaker 2: idea of, you know, watching young people I don't know
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  Speaker 2: grow and they do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's the most most I think the eighteen
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  Speaker 1: to twenty two year old is the most you develop
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  Speaker 1: your own individuality. You know, you begin to believe who
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  Speaker 1: you are and what you want and sort that out
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  Speaker 1: between who your parents want.
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  Speaker 2: Me to be that's good. Yeah, what do you think
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  Speaker 2: the worst part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Is the one percent there are. I always say that
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  Speaker 1: I work for the ninety nine percent, and I tell
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  Speaker 1: my men and women, I said, whatever you give me,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give you back. If you treat me well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to treat you well.
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't treat you well. You really have likes.
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  Speaker 1: It's that one percent that, okay, is difficult. And I
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  Speaker 1: think you'd find that in any organization. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: been in leadership in the c suite offices all my life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and really I find that with every age group.
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  Speaker 1: I mean people in a boardroom compared to you know,
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  Speaker 1: people in a Greek organization, they're very similar. But I
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  Speaker 1: think the thing a lot of people don't realize is
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  Speaker 1: the chapter itself is run by the members. The house
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  Speaker 1: directors or house moms don't really get involved in that
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  Speaker 1: leadership or training of that because they are so self
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  Speaker 1: sufficient and they're guided by their own principles, they're guided
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  Speaker 1: by their own philanthropy, you know. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: that is kind of nice to be able just to watch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't have to take part of that. So yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is hard to get the logistics of a house managed,
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  Speaker 1: depending on how many people you have. I mean there
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  Speaker 1: are some houses now they're like dormitories that house the
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  Speaker 1: entire organization. There's the one in Washington State I think
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  Speaker 1: has four hundred people in it. There's one in Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: that has four forty. Wow, they're massive, you know. So
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  Speaker 1: of course it is a lot of logistics with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of employees, you know, So you're managing that, but
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  Speaker 1: you're also watching these young men and young women blossom
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  Speaker 1: and the amazing leaders.
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  Speaker 2: Well what about so what about you and your personal life?
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  Speaker 2: Is it hard to have one? And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: your situation if you have a partner or your family
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  Speaker 2: of friends and nearby, is that hard to juggle?
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  Speaker 1: I would venture to say no, because you get so
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  Speaker 1: much time off right oka. You know, it's not a
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  Speaker 1: twelve month job. There's some schools that are on quarters,
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  Speaker 1: some that are on semesters. And so I'm solo, and
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  Speaker 1: you know love that. I have children and grandchildren, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very you know, you can balance it,
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  Speaker 1: just say you at any career, it is balancing it.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we do get enough time to travel
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  Speaker 1: and do things that we want to do. There are
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  Speaker 1: organizations that allow couples. Generally speaking, a fraternity is going
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  Speaker 1: to wish that they had a man or you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I was in a frattorney also, but they are
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  Speaker 1: generally not going to allow a man in a sorority.
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  Speaker 1: I have not seen that.
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  Speaker 2: And you said that, yeah, yeah, because I was talking
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  Speaker 2: to a few of the directors that said, yes, that
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  Speaker 2: it is like that they have a significant other, that
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  Speaker 2: person can come into the suite you can't go into
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  Speaker 2: maybe the main areas, but and that there are now
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  Speaker 2: you're able to go in as a couple sometimes at
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  Speaker 2: some schools. But so the fraternity you just said, the
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  Speaker 2: fraternities would rather there be a man there than the
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  Speaker 2: sororities would. Do you think the fraternities respond to you
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  Speaker 2: as a house director as well as they would a
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  Speaker 2: man somebody because you were living in the house or
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  Speaker 2: Is that hard to manage?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't find it hard hard to manage. I think
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  Speaker 1: most of the young men that come into Greek organizations
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  Speaker 1: are going to be respectful to anyone. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I said there's that one percent you know that in
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  Speaker 1: any organization aren't going to be as they're going to
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit more of a challenge.
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  Speaker 2: I would think that one percent would creep up a
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  Speaker 2: little in a fright house, but that's just me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, So maybe so also depends on the support system.
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  Speaker 1: You know, house directors and house moms get a support
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  Speaker 1: system from zero, you know to some schools. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you live on the property where you're the university ends it,
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  Speaker 1: so you're under the police service and the fire service,
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  Speaker 1: and you're under the counseling service, and you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have so much support from the Greek office or
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  Speaker 1: the student life office that that gives you so much
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  Speaker 1: help every day with what you're dealing with. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: because you have to be a psychologist, and you have
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  Speaker 1: to be a shape and you have to be a
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  Speaker 1: business manager and a finance manager, and then you have
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  Speaker 1: to know how to deal with students. So the more
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  Speaker 1: support you can get and the more training you can get,
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  Speaker 1: I think it really makes a difference. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: now it's a career.
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  Speaker 2: It's very different, right, That's what I'm Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 2: I'm picking up on that this is like an actual career.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't mean to say that in any kind
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  Speaker 2: of a condescending way. I just think that when I was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, going through the sorty life, I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: that my house mom, it was sort of you know,
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  Speaker 2: women that were older, and you know, just sort of like,
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  Speaker 2: maybe single, I'll do this for a while. Not that
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  Speaker 2: it was something that necessarily people set out to do, right,
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  Speaker 2: But it's interesting just from what I'm hearing, it feels
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  Speaker 2: like maybe there's a career path here that now people
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  Speaker 2: are taking it, considering it more sort of long term.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, and consider I mean just think about how
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  Speaker 1: many jobs do you make fifty thousand to ninety thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars a year and have free absolutely wonderful, amazing chefs
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  Speaker 1: cooking for you every day, you know, and power and
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  Speaker 1: water and parking and insurance in all of those things,
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  Speaker 1: and live on site twelve months a year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty sweet.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty amazing when you look at all the benefits and
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  Speaker 1: you Yeah, the position can be challenging, but I think
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  Speaker 1: being a school teacher can be challenging, a construction worker
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  Speaker 1: can be challenging. It's all the like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's the support that you have in that university,
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  Speaker 1: or the support that you're able to ask for yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I've been privileged to be
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  Speaker 1: on a lot of different campuses to see how a
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  Speaker 1: lot of that management style works. From it being owned
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  Speaker 1: and operated by a local alumni group, to be owned
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  Speaker 1: and operated by the university, or to be in and
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  Speaker 1: operated by the national organization. They're all very different, and
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  Speaker 1: they're all very different in how those career paths look.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, no, I've definitely learned a lot just talking
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  Speaker 2: to you guys, because no, seriously, it's and it's an
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  Speaker 2: important job. Obviously I knew that before we spoke, but
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  Speaker 2: just in terms of thinking of it as a career
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  Speaker 2: or even people just being able to put away money.
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  Speaker 2: You know, even if you're younger, let's say, and you're
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  Speaker 2: in school, there.
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  Speaker 1: Are a lot of graduate assistants that are looking more
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  Speaker 1: and more into it because they get free housing, they're
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  Speaker 1: on campus. You know, it's a twenty four hour day
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  Speaker 1: job for sure, but there are some organizations that allow
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  Speaker 1: people to have full time jobs. They are professors on campuses.
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  Speaker 1: Now they are looking at this and saying, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: this is a really good, you know, good situation. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go do this right. And I think that like you say,
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  Speaker 1: it is surprising when you talk to most people about
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  Speaker 1: if you were in a forty twenty years ago or
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  Speaker 1: forty years ago, or even one hundred years ago, it
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  Speaker 1: has changed incredibly. I mean, now you've got organizations who's
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  Speaker 1: the budgets are five hundred to a million dollars for
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  Speaker 1: one chapter just their budget plus a housing you know,
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  Speaker 1: a housing corporation budget. So it's a big business.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think you you make it sound easier
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  Speaker 2: than it probably is. That's just my guess. You seem
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  Speaker 2: like to have a woman that could just handle anything.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, we so appreciate you coming on and
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  Speaker 2: sharing a little bit about this. Okay, guys, So next
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  Speaker 2: we are talking to my new friend Laurie Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Lourie Hi.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm hoping that talking to you, you could tell
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  Speaker 2: tell us some secrets, tell us some of the crazy stuff,
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  Speaker 2: tell us some of the wacky stuff. How long have
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  Speaker 2: you been doing this?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, bull time since two thousand and three?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, so you're not kidding.
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  Speaker 3: No that I substituted for people who went out of.
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  Speaker 2: Down Oh wow. Okay, so you know the ins and
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  Speaker 2: outs of this. So yeah, we we're getting a good
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  Speaker 2: idea in terms of like what the responsibilities are, although
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they differ from house to house absolutely, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So but tell us is there anything you could tell
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  Speaker 2: us in terms of like crazy things that happened with
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  Speaker 2: the girls? Uh, stuff that you anytime that you've had
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  Speaker 2: to manage what feels like something that's not manageable.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I sometimes I just think back to, Okay, what
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  Speaker 3: was it like when I was in school and what
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  Speaker 3: would I have done? And what what was I thinking
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  Speaker 3: when I did some of the crazy things I did
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  Speaker 3: because I wasn't I am a sorority member. Also, no,
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  Speaker 3: I think last night somebody wanted me to fix somebody
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  Speaker 3: else's pants that they had borrowed sneakily. And I'm like, no,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: there's no fabric there. I mean, I can fix them,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: but you'll.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: They want you to me. They wanted you to sew
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: them because they had sneak Oh my god, but.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: There was no fabric to like put it back together.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: And I said, no, I can fix it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it's yes, did they try to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: They probably try to get you to do all that
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff like save their just save their asses.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Of course, I mean, you know, right.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, I'm like the mom, but not so.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: What kind of mom are you? Are you strict?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: I have a couple of I'm going to die in
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: these hill rules, and then the rest of them are like, okay,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: could we do something different? Have you thought of this that?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: M So what are the die on the hill rules?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: You have to wear shoes in the dining room?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Love that rule? Oh my god, love that rule. That's
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: your die in the Hill rule. You're the coolest house
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: director ever. I thought you were going to be like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: don't you ever let me see a boy in this house?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, because battle yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, ye yeah.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: All right, so no shoes in the dining room. Wow,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: that's not bad.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: Do you have any stories for us, like crazy things
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: that have happened that you've had to deal with.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: At one house? The room the day room that was
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: kind of the party room, sadly for them, was above
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: my room.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Sadly for them. What about you?
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: No, because I'm a really good sleeper, so that wasn't
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: the problem. But I woke up and I heard something.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I thought, oh no, I'm gonna have to get up,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: and oh really, and it's like okay, well, okay, so
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: you get up and you go upstairs and you knock
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: in the room on the door and nobody answered. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I opened the door and they were having a party
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: in there, totally just dancing, nothing illegal, nothing wrong, okay.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And they saw me and it was like statue suddenly, Oh,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: did we wake you up? I said no, not really,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: but you know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Knock it off.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And they were so apologetic. They even apologized the
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: next morning. We're so sorry, and I said, wall, no,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: it's okay, don't worry.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: What do they call you, Lorie? Okay, yeah, I'm sorry.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I came in at the point where most people were
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: no longer called miss whatever or missus whatever?
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: So wow? So are they crying on your shoulder a lot?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Sometimes not? I'm not as much as you know, not
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: as much as you would think. But but I'm happy
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: to listen to whatever they need to say. I'm pretty
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: good at not telling people who said what right. I've
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: been lucky that I've never had any real dangerous things
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: happen to anybody.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad. I mean, are you catching them smoking pot?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Are you catching them with boys in their bedrooms? Is
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: that just sort of par for the course drinking.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I have found loquor in the house. But the house
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: director's role is not really the enforcer. You're more the
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: reporter because they have an advisory board, they have a
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: house corporation board, got it, They have an internal group
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: of them, and so it's more like, if you run
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: by me with a beer, I'm going to take the beer.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: If I see the beer in your room, I'm going
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to report it to somebody.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like that's a happy medium. That's sort
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: of like, I think that's reasonable.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I think so.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I think it is. I think it is. What's the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: part of this job that you enjoy the most.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I love being with this age group. And you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I'm ready when they need to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: go on break for Christmas. I'll bet I'm like, Okay,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: no doubt, go now.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Take your time.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: But I have actually took a year off a couple
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of years ago because I thought I was retiring and
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize how lonely I was. Have you lived
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: with this many people and I love being here.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I love that you love that, really, because I think
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: it takes a very specific personality type to put up
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: with this. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I mean you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: have to have I would think the patients of a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: saint pretty much.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: And you have to be a good sleeper.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, but you know, sometimes.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: They think they're very loud, and usually the house mother's
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: room is situated not where, not where the party room is.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, are you kidding me? I have no trouble.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I don't notice the noise very often.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean you have to not only be you're
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: in this supervisory role, but like also are you managing
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the house, the logistics of the house.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, most of us are partially property managed, and in fact,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: over the years the name has changed to in some
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: sororities it's called facility director or property manager house director.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: So, like, I just spent all his spring break dealing
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: with vendors who I didn't have to babysit because there
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: was nobody in the house but me. So the sprinkler man,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: the fire extinguisher man, the hood cleaner, the hood inspector.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: You known.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have you ever had a I guess you aren't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the enforcer necessarily. Have you ever had to kick a
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: girl out of the house.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I have been instructed to do that be fun. Oh
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: so so uncomfortable.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: How bad do you have to mess up for that
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to happen?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: They, I mean all stories have bylaws national, you know,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: code of conduct, local code conduct, So sometimes you just
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: have to leave.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the girl. I feel like the girls. It
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: seems you just seem very sweet and warm. Do they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: just love you?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Oh? I think they do.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I mean I like the you know, the person who
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: called me yesterday and said we think you would be
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: great at this LORI I'm like, oh.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: That's so nice. Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Wait, somebody called you yesterday and say said you'd be
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: good on a podcast. Well this is yeah, so yeah
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: they were right. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe you should
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: consider this as well. You should be the podcast from
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah no.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Our podcast is called Dirty Russians. And as people think
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: that it's about all the negative aspects and it's it's not.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: And I have to say that crossed my mind after
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I saw the name of thing, and I went okay,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: but I was assured that it was not that way.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. I mean I I've been in a sorority.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Our other hosts of our sorority girls as well, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: we all had wonderful positive experiences. We do like to
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: get down to you know, there's always another side of everything,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: not just obviously, not just it's not for everyone, but
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it's not for everyone, and what does that look like?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And is you know?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Live?
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And most of the girls that we've spoken to, the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: best part of being in a sorority has been that
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: year they spent in the house.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: My daughter railed against it, she didn't want to do it,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and it ended up being her favorite year. Right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I loved living in the house. I loved the sleeping porch.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: You know, all the things that people don't like about
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: that sleeping porch, I loved it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: What's a sleeping porch for our listeners that don't know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: The closest thing would It looks oftentimes like an army barrack,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: So that's right, bunks. But the plus of it is
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it's always dark, it's always quiet. You could always take
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: a nap there. And I when I was in school,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: which was quite a while ago, nobody had obviously cell
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: phones weren't existing, so nobody had their own alarms. We
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: had a wake up person who woke us up.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Right, Wow, I guess we did too. Did we have that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Some crazy person who wanted to do that house duty
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: of at six o'clock in the morning, they'd come around
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: and go LORI at six o'clock and if you didn't
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: get up, they were back in fifteen minutes to do it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, I don't know I would hire that
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: person to have come to my house.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Oh it's so nice, you know. And then after about
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: nine o'clock in the morning, you could have an alarm clock.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but you're able to also have your
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: own life, your own social life. Oh absolutely, Oh yeah, yeah, good.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I'm glad. And you have family around that you.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: No, I don't. You don't these I considered these my girls.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Really.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I love that. They are very lucky. Wow.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: And because I was an advisor before I did all
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: of this, I have girls who go range from early
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: sixties to now eighteen.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Wow. And it sounds like you just you really love them.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: They're so lucky.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I you know, you don't. You don't have the same
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: relationship with everybody, but of course I have. I have
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: great relationships with a lot of them. I've been to weddings,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you know, I've met babies.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Yeah, I was saying when we opened,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I said, you know, my experience with Aunt Millie, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: that's the only way that we knew her. We didn't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: have a particularly close relationship ship. She was really just
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: sort of the rule of the enforcer, you know. But
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: talking to people today who do what you do, it's
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: just seems very different to me, like you're really able to,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: you know, have something fulfilling.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Well, I think the expectations are different, you know, the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: society has different. Expectations are different. Right, most people feel
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: like they don't need a second mom until they do.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, if you're around. Yeah, God knows. Okay,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: my friend, Well, thank you so much for coming on
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and share welcome some of this one with us. We
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: really do appreciate it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you. It's been funny.