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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Panthers Offense Struggles Against the Texans · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, party people? Bueno, como estas?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mike and Bo.
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  Speaker 3: This is my friend, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: We've gone from brink to stink.
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  Speaker 4: This is my friend, T-Bone.
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  Speaker 1: You be a leader when you're only.
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  Speaker 5: 5'7.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are the best. Pony, pony, pony, pony. They're
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  Speaker 1: the best. I love those guys.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not a smart man. I'm a Carolina Panther fan.
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  Speaker 1: Ha, ha, ha. You're listening to the Mac and Bo
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  Speaker 1: show on Mac and Bo radio. Good Thursday morning, Charlotte.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome aboard. It is Mac and bone show time.
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  Speaker 3: As we sit here just two days away from week
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  Speaker 3: zero football action involving the heels involving the pack against Virginia, uh,
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  Speaker 3: It's almost go time, baby.
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  Speaker 1: It is almost go time. We'll dabble. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: it a bit today.
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  Speaker 3: Wes Durham's going to join us, ACC Network, to talk
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  Speaker 3: about that and the early season for the ACC. We've
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  Speaker 3: also obviously got to discuss the joint practice where... If
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  Speaker 3: the mission from T-Bone was for the Panthers to smoke
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  Speaker 3: the joint practice, I think that Neil Hunter and Will
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  Speaker 3: Anderson were the ones that were smoking that joint. Holy crap.
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  Speaker 3: We will talk about it. Was it that bad? What's
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  Speaker 3: the plan for the preseason game now after that joint practice?
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  Speaker 3: And much, much more here on today's Mac and Bone
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  Speaker 3: show about that. And more conferences jumping on board in
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  Speaker 3: regards to trying to ban T-Bone. the pros from the
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  Speaker 3: college game. So we got stuff happening here on the
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  Speaker 3: Mac and Bone Show. Football will work in a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of fun, but there will clearly be be some
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  Speaker 3: airing of grievances about the Panthers' offense after yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I am sure of that. Bone is in the house.
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  Speaker 1: Fitty is in the house.
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  Speaker 3: And most importantly, y'all are out there hanging with us
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  Speaker 3: on this Tuesday morning.
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  Speaker 1: Bone, how you feeling, Boney? You know, we're here.
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  Speaker 6: We're ready to dissect and figure out what happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: And boy, did a lot happen yesterday. Boy, did a
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  Speaker 6: lot happen yesterday. And we're going to also at some
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  Speaker 6: point today, Mac, read off the text reaction for what
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  Speaker 6: happened yesterday for people that actually couldn't see what happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: That's the amazing thing. This is the illness that we
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  Speaker 3: have as football fans. People are losing their mind over
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  Speaker 3: something they could not see. And I've been there before.
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  Speaker 3: I can completely relate. That's what we do as football fans.
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  Speaker 3: We also have three great interviews, too. We were over
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  Speaker 3: there at the joint practice and then afterwards got a
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  Speaker 3: chance to sit down with three very interesting, talkative guys.
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  Speaker 3: We talked to Darren Waller about joining the Panthers and
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  Speaker 3: trying to make this team in short order. We talked
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  Speaker 3: to A.J. Dillon, a fan favorite. who is also battling
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  Speaker 3: to make this team. And then we talked to Nick Scott,
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  Speaker 3: who might be the best talker of the three, and
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  Speaker 3: that's saying something. Because they all could come here and
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  Speaker 3: steal our jobs and host radio shows.
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  Speaker 6: I say this not just because we were a part
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  Speaker 6: of it. We walked away saying, wow. Did we get
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  Speaker 6: three guys today that really brought it in terms of
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  Speaker 6: discussion and talking? That was, yeah, that was awesome. So
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  Speaker 6: I know that there's Nick Scott detractors out there, but
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  Speaker 6: I'll tell you one thing. I am not a detractor
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  Speaker 6: whatsoever from Nick Scott, the human being.
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  Speaker 1: That guy is first class. He's a cool dude.
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  Speaker 3: And you can see, you can see why he was
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  Speaker 3: involved in the summit with Bryce Young and Trayvon Merrig.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like you can, he, he, you don't always have to
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  Speaker 3: be the best player ever. on a unit to be
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  Speaker 3: one of the leaders. He's one of the leaders. Derek
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  Speaker 3: Brown yesterday, again, too, after the joint practice in his
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  Speaker 3: press conference, again, showed his leadership. I just love this guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's no nonsense, and I absolutely love this dude. So
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  Speaker 3: you'll hear from him on the show as well. We'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about it. The defense, definitely better than the offense.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk about that as the hour and the show progress,
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  Speaker 3: but I can't fake the funk bone Fitty and I
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  Speaker 3: were there from the start of the joint practice. You
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  Speaker 3: joined in the middle and the Panthers continued on offense
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  Speaker 3: to do what they had done the whole time. So
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  Speaker 3: they showed you exactly what we had seen for the
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  Speaker 3: entire practice. It was horrible for the first team offense.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no other way to put it. It
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  Speaker 3: was horrible. They did not get into the end zone once,
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  Speaker 3: including multiple red zone drills. There was one red zone
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  Speaker 3: drill where they started at the 10. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: they moved the ball an inch. It was horrible. The
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  Speaker 3: pass protection was just brutal on the outside. Freeling had
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  Speaker 3: himself a learning day, mostly against Daniil Hunter. On the
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  Speaker 3: other side, it was Will Anderson and Rasheed Walker did
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  Speaker 3: not have a good day. It felt like the interior
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  Speaker 3: wasn't really the problem. Bryce Young made mistakes as a
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  Speaker 3: result of the pressure. Holy crap, that was horrible.
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  Speaker 1: It cannot be over. I'm I'm being honest, man.
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  Speaker 3: It cannot be overstated how one-sided that practice was on
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  Speaker 3: that field.
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  Speaker 6: We knew the challenge that was in front of them yesterday,
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  Speaker 6: and we said, hey, look, this is going to be
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  Speaker 6: a day when you read tweets where Houston's going to
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  Speaker 6: do what they do.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have their moments.
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  Speaker 6: They're not going to shut down Freeling and Hunter, excuse me,
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  Speaker 6: Hunter and Anderson and this defense, they're going to have
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  Speaker 6: their moments. But can the Panthers also, you know, hold serve,
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  Speaker 6: play them even, give us some form of confidence coming
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  Speaker 6: out of this, give Freeland confidence entering the regular season,
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  Speaker 6: and now we can take all that, Mac, and... and
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  Speaker 6: fold up those notes and put those in the drawer
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  Speaker 6: because yesterday was not even close to even.
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  Speaker 1: How about this?
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  Speaker 6: I had to go home and come back because we
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  Speaker 6: did interviews after, so I came back and I knew
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  Speaker 6: that when I entered the area of the stadium that
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  Speaker 6: Bryce had been sacked four times. By the time I
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  Speaker 6: got to Mac on the sidelines, three or four minutes later,
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  Speaker 6: Bryce had been sacked seven times. He got sacked three
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  Speaker 6: times in my walk from the parking deck to the field.
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  Speaker 6: I said, I thought he got sacked four times. Where
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  Speaker 6: did they get seven from? Hunter had four of the
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  Speaker 6: sacks himself, man. He was absolutely on fire yesterday. So
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  Speaker 6: we'll talk about it, but there's no other way to
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  Speaker 6: put it. Now, there are things that need to be
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  Speaker 6: discussed about the... Like, you're not exactly game planning for
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  Speaker 6: a joint practice. I'm pretty sure, Bone, you would.
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  Speaker 1: change things.
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  Speaker 3: If a game starts going that badly, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: you'd get Freeling some help and they didn't do a
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  Speaker 3: lot of that. So like, there are some, there is
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  Speaker 3: some context that has to be given here, but even
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  Speaker 3: Bryce's two interceptions were really bad. Like just like under
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  Speaker 3: pressure and just, Oh man, Let me just chuck this thing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was really brutal.
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  Speaker 6: My favorite text exchange yesterday that I did not include
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  Speaker 6: in the rundown of text, but I did notice it yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, there was a texter that was arguing with
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  Speaker 6: KB that the Panthers got lit up by a mid-tier
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  Speaker 6: defense yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they might want to check the stats.
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  Speaker 6: KB was trying to explain the two ends combined for
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  Speaker 6: 27 and a half sacks last year.
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  Speaker 3: The Panthers themselves had 30 sacks as a team. These
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  Speaker 3: two guys combined for 27. So, yes, they are amazing.
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  Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. And that's context, too, that
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  Speaker 3: has to be given as well. But it's just to
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  Speaker 3: see that with my own eyes and to keep waiting. Phinney,
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  Speaker 3: you tell me if I'm missing something. I honestly believe
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers' first team– the second team offense, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: had a lot of good moments. Kenny Pickett had a
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  Speaker 3: really good practice. He dropped dime touchdowns to Mechie and Horn.
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  Speaker 3: The Horn one ended practice, and the Texans tried to
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  Speaker 3: steal the ball from him in the end zone. That
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  Speaker 3: was the only time where there was almost a fight
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  Speaker 3: that I noticed. But the first team offense, I think
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  Speaker 3: there were two good plays. Bryce had to elude pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he did. He had to elude pressure and
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  Speaker 3: then on the move hit Brooks down the field. That
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  Speaker 3: was a nice play. And then they got one to
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  Speaker 3: T-Mac downfield. But other than that, am I missing anything?
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  Speaker 4: No, Mac, that was it.
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  Speaker 7: There was maybe a run that Brooks had where he
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  Speaker 7: was able to get to the second level, but because
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  Speaker 7: of the thud, they just blow the play dead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the run game really wasn't going anywhere either.
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  Speaker 7: But that was the only other time where they were
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  Speaker 7: able to get him out in open space. The highlight
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  Speaker 7: of the joint practice session, in my opinion, was watching
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  Speaker 7: in person how much of a maniacal.
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  Speaker 4: Psychopath, in a good way, Felipe Frank says.
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  Speaker 1: That is true. I count that as a positive.
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  Speaker 4: Because Boat, he almost fought a towel.
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  Speaker 7: He was so hellbent on trying to start a fight,
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  Speaker 7: he grabbed a towel from one of the water people
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  Speaker 7: out there and was talking bleep to it.
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  Speaker 3: He was trying to bait anybody on the Texans' bone
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  Speaker 3: into any kind of kerfuffle. He's got an unmatched fire, Mac,
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  Speaker 3: on this football team. It was awesome. I was awesome
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  Speaker 3: to watch in person. And it wasn't like he was
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  Speaker 3: just talking. He was making plays on special teams.
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  Speaker 1: He told a.
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  Speaker 7: Guy, Mac, that I don't know how that guy got up.
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  Speaker 1: I felt bad for him. He was a maniac. You're right, Fiddy.
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  Speaker 1: That's a definite positive.
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  Speaker 3: And I think there were plenty of positives on defense,
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  Speaker 3: although I am noticing some of the Texans reporters acting
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  Speaker 3: like their offense dominated. And I didn't quite see it
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  Speaker 3: that way. But we'll talk about it, obviously, throughout the day.
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  Speaker 3: And we will have conversations about this offense. Because if
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  Speaker 3: you aren't If you aren't concerned about this offense, like
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  Speaker 3: we can have fun with these texts where people yesterday
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  Speaker 3: in the moment were overreacting or losing their minds. But
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  Speaker 3: if anybody today tries to say they're not concerned about
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  Speaker 3: this offense to start the season.
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  Speaker 1: I would beg to differ.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the small sample size of what the preseason and
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  Speaker 6: these joint sessions are about, it's not the large majority
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  Speaker 6: of this sample size. It's not good. We saw the
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  Speaker 6: Buffalo struggles. We saw the first drive struggles against Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 6: The practice against Jacksonville. The practice against Jacksonville yesterday. And
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  Speaker 6: this was the worst. We're trying to find the positive moments.
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  Speaker 6: You can name on one hand, really. In all these
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  Speaker 6: sessions and preseason games, the positives from the offense that
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  Speaker 6: really is going.
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  Speaker 1: To matter in the regular season. And what's our MO?
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  Speaker 1: We start slow. Yep. We start slow.
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  Speaker 3: We average, if you take the first two games of
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  Speaker 3: the season in each of Canales' first two years, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: we average 11 points per game.
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  Speaker 1: That's a four-game sample. We start so slow on offense.
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  Speaker 1: And then I know this is going to rub people
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  Speaker 1: the wrong way.
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  Speaker 3: As bad as it was, Dave Canales still says starters,
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  Speaker 3: including offense, will not play tomorrow night. So I know
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be a bone of contention that if
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  Speaker 3: we don't talk about today, we can talk about tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: because I'm sure there's plenty of people out there saying,
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  Speaker 3: hold up, why do they deserve the night off? So
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of things to talk about here on
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  Speaker 3: the Mac and Bone Show. We'll talk more about the
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  Speaker 3: joint practice. We'll let you hear what Canales and Bryce
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  Speaker 3: and some of the guys said afterwards yesterday. Also need
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  Speaker 3: to mention, Bone, that the Big 12— has joined the
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  Speaker 3: Big Ten and the SEC in making it illegal to
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  Speaker 3: come back from the pros to college. They have done
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  Speaker 3: it for every sport. They have included every sport. The
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  Speaker 3: Big Ten just did football. SEC had football, basketball, women's basketball.
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  Speaker 3: The Big 12 has said every sport, you cannot come
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  Speaker 3: back from being a pro. The ACC, Bone, is apparently
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  Speaker 3: in the red zone themselves trying to push this rule
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  Speaker 3: into the end zone, but they are the last power
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  Speaker 3: for holdout. I would expect them to follow suit. Unless
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  Speaker 3: you said, Bone, they've got an evil plan up their
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  Speaker 3: sleeves to just take all of these guys that are
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  Speaker 3: ineligible in the other conferences. But I can't imagine they
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  Speaker 3: don't join. Welcome one, welcome all to the ACC. I mean, Mac,
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  Speaker 3: it is such a mess right now. I... I can
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  Speaker 3: no longer.
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  Speaker 1: Keep track of who exactly is eligible and who's not.
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  Speaker 6: Because some guys, Mac, this doesn't affect some.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, right?
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  Speaker 6: If they didn't go pro. But a guy like Mark Mitchell,
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  Speaker 6: who was going from Missouri to Kentucky, now he can't
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  Speaker 6: go pro. to Kentucky because of the in-seat, because of
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  Speaker 6: the in-conference transfer rule. I guess that's a problem for
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  Speaker 6: him now. Are they actually enforcing that one? I guess that's,
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  Speaker 6: I guess he can, can he still, can he still play,
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  Speaker 6: but he can't play for Kentucky now? I've lost Seth Trimble. He,
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  Speaker 6: can he play or not? He's in a case, taking
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  Speaker 6: it to court in Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: He will win.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to, I'm just going to let you know,
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  Speaker 3: anybody that takes these cases to a local judge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They are going to win. I'm just going to put
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  Speaker 1: that out there.
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  Speaker 7: Carolina's in that same boat, too, because they lost their
• 13:07
  Speaker 7: big man fence, the South Dakota transfer.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that. I read that yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: So he should go to a local court because he
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  Speaker 3: will probably win there.
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  Speaker 7: What was weird about that one, Mac, when I read
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  Speaker 7: the report, the same court that ruled him ineligible is
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  Speaker 7: going to have to rule him eligible. Like the same
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  Speaker 7: Tennessee Court of Appeals that has him now ineligible to
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  Speaker 7: play is the same court he'll have to fight for
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  Speaker 7: to be able to play. So from the way that
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  Speaker 7: I read it, he can't take his lawsuit or his
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  Speaker 7: case anywhere else.
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  Speaker 5: Who?
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  Speaker 2: Fins.
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  Speaker 8: Why?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Wasn't he a part of the Colorado?
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  Speaker 1: Like Trimble?
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  Speaker 4: He got his through Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee. Tennessee's the one that shut it down. So how's
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  Speaker 1: he ineligible? What happened in Tennessee? Tennessee deemed the guys
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  Speaker 1: that went to court there ineligible yesterday. Oh, man. I thought, okay.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 6: Tennessee said those guys, the injunctions no longer stand for that.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck? Now, is it just a stay?
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  Speaker 3: Yes yeah okay so that could be that that will
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  Speaker 3: that could be overruled on a positive for you real
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: quick i've noticed that on a lot of the top
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: college basketball players and they're we're talking like the number
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  Speaker 3: one number two number three number four guys going forward
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  Speaker 3: michael malone has unc like at least in the mix
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  Speaker 3: for a lot of dudes right now he does the
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: unc brand is is popping on a lot of like
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  Speaker 3: at least the list there, because a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: they won't be on the list with Duke recently.
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  Speaker 6: Right now, it'll be like Duke and Carolina and three
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  Speaker 6: other teams. He's doing a good job so far, at least,
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  Speaker 6: of getting in the mix.
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  Speaker 1: For a lot of dudes.
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  Speaker 4: The way it should be.
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  Speaker 1: Back to you, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: All right, back to the courts. How dare you talk
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  Speaker 3: about actual basketball? That was my praise of the Heels
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  Speaker 3: right that moment down. They slipped that Tennessee one past me.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so yeah. Okay, so fans, and then Jalen Washington,
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: the former Tar Heel. 18 total, 18 others are in
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  Speaker 3: that one.
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  Speaker 1: It's a stay.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's pending appeal. So that thing could change,
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  Speaker 3: but holy crap, this is convoluted. I mean, we have
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  Speaker 3: to work our butts off to understand all the different cases.
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  Speaker 3: And you saw right there, like to stay up on
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  Speaker 3: all the cases. Imagine Joe six pack out there that
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  Speaker 3: just wants to listen to us, make a couple of
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  Speaker 3: fart jokes and talk football.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Like the average dude, like we, again, bone, we spend
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  Speaker 3: a lot of our day, like trying to figure all
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  Speaker 3: this out.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know about you.
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  Speaker 3: Like we do imagine just, you just, you are a
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  Speaker 3: sports fan for fun and you have a life. There's
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  Speaker 3: no way a normal Joe Sixpack can understand, or probably
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  Speaker 3: even wants to understand it.
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  Speaker 6: Our friend Brian Raufmag does a great job covering college
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  Speaker 6: basketball for a living, who we put on during the season. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 6: he tweeted out that he has lost complete control and
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: track of who is on what roster. The college basketball people,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, they do it for a living now, and
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  Speaker 6: they can't even keep.
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  Speaker 1: Track of— That's what I'm saying, man.
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  Speaker 3: So just imagine this is like Mandarin Chinese to— To
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  Speaker 3: so many fans, probably.
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  Speaker 1: It's like speaking a different language.
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  Speaker 4: Or kindergarten for you two.
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  Speaker 1: Like speaking a different language. Did you do that on purpose, Bo?
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  Speaker 6: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: After I said Mandarin Chinese, you were speaking. Oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I'm thinking that was on purpose.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of straight fit he's filing
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: over there.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: He's a real Einstein back there. Let's talk about the Braves,
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: shall we? Braves, these two games, Bone, have been tremendous.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: They've been like the playoff atmosphere, playoff baseball. Back and
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: forth last night, Bone. The Braves end up winning this
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: on a walk-off by Ha Sung Kim, of all people,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: a pinch hit walk-off game winner in the ninth for
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: the Braves. They beat the Dodgers 6-5. They were down 3-1.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: They then rally and take a 5-3 lead. They then
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: give up too late where the Dodgers tie it, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: then they win it in the ninth. They win this series,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: and they can go for the sweep today with another
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: amazing pitching matchup, Chris Sale and Yamamoto today, Bone. But
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: this series has been– we had Brandon Gaughan on. They
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: really wanted to hype it up, Braves vision and stuff.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: This thing has delivered, and it's big for the Braves
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: because the Braves came into this series, Bone– losing 7
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: of 10.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: They needed a little jump like this. Braves are really something, Mac.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: A couple times this year, they've Harris teetered where you think, uh-oh,
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: they're really in big trouble. Is that something to do
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: with Michael Harris? The Phillies were a few games back again.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Then they all of a sudden, Sunday night baseball, they
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: go beat Milwaukee. They now have three straight wins. over
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: the two best teams in the NL. The Milwaukee win,
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: the two Braves, the two Dodgers wins. So all of
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: a sudden, it looks like, man, they've lost 10-16. The
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: stat you gave there as well, it looks like, man,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: they are really in a funk again. But as they
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: did earlier this year, they are very hot and cold.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: They get red hot, then they get cold. But yet
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: it seems like a lot of times back when they
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: need something big to happen, they do play pretty good
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: baseball against.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Some of the better teams in the league.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had lost 7-9 before this little three-game win
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: streak here. So this is big to see them kind
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: of turn.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: That around, man.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: After this, they do have the, they still have the
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: seven with the Phillies coming up. And actually they have,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: they have a stretch here coming up, Mac, of, Phillies
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: for four, Rays for three, Phillies for three, Cubs for three.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: So they have a very tough stretch here. But before that,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: it's Colorado, San Francisco, and the Nationals. So they can
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: really stack some more wins. That's a hell of a stretch, though, Philadelphia,
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Tampa Bay, Philly, Chicago. But they have some room here
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: against Colorado this weekend.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Definitely. Good for the Braves, though, man, getting things turned
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: back around.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: radio program, more on the Panthers-Texans practice. Dave Canales reacts
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: to the offensive struggles. How did the defense do in
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: the latest health update on Devin Lloyd, Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: Alright, what a great day. Exactly what we wanted. D'Amico
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: and I talked all through the week. Connected last night
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: to make sure we got what we needed out of
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: this day. It was a physical practice. It was fantastic.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: In two words, Daniil Hunter, Will Anderson. I think that's
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: four words actually. Those guys are fantastic players. That's exactly
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: what we need to see. Monroe needs it. Rashid needs it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: When we dropped back today, we couldn't really do much.
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: Other than Bryce extending and getting a couple of plays going,
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: the rush was phenomenal. and that's exactly just the information
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: we need to be able to regroup. The run game
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: was fine. I can't wait to go see the defensive side.
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: Heard reports, some good, some bad, but all in all,
• 19:59
  Speaker 9: a physical practice, nothing crazy popped off with the guys.
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: A couple of little extra physical plays, the guys handled
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: it well, got right back to work, so I was
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: really proud of that.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: There you go. That is Dave Kanellis.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: He really did step up to the podium like he
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: does every practice bone and start with, what a great day.
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: Jeez.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: And then he proceeds to talk about how we got
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: our heinies obliterated and how lopsided it was in favor
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: of the Texans' defense.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the follow-up is, good morning, Coach. What exactly was
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: great today, sir? Thank you.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, Kanellis really is sometimes just a happy bot 3000,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: isn't he?
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: What a great day. It was a work Wednesday. It's
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: hard to get them off track.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, like yesterday, he arrives at that podium. lectern,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: whatever the heck that thing is. I know Darren Gant
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: tells us what it really is, but anyway, he arrives
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: there bone with Richard Simmons energy. I mean, it is just,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: all right, everybody want to work out today. And then
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: he has to actually talk about what happened on the field.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: And it was literally the biggest beat down I have
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: ever seen on one side of the ball in a
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: joint practice.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: He really would be a great Peloton instructor. He could
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: do that, no doubt about it. Not that I've ever
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: really been on there, but I've seen stuff on TV
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: about him. No doubt about it. He'd have you all
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: pumped up, man. But that cracks me up how he
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: started that damn thing. But he was honest, man. He
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: was honest.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: He told you the two guys that wrecked shop. Bullard
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: to safety did pick Bryce off twice, too. So there
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: were other guys involved. I mean, the coverage is pretty
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: damn good on the back end. But most of the time,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Bryce couldn't even get like 50 pointed out one time.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: T-Mac got Stingley on a double move, but. Bryce didn't
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: have time to get the ball out.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Didn't see him.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Very similar to what the problems were in the Buffalo
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: game where we're trying to evaluate Bryce, but you couldn't
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: get a full evaluation at times because there was no
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: time to do anything back there.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: And that was the interior guys.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: This was the outside guys. So, you know.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: So they're all, damn near all of them, are getting
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: involved and making us worry about the offensive line. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: will say this. I think you should be concerned about
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: this offense. I'm not going to even beat around the
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: bush with that. I do think some of the text
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: coming in where this dude is like, we'd be lucky
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: to win six games. I do feel like there definitely
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: is an overreaction. Remember how bad we were to start
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: the season last year and we still won the division?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: But you've got to be a bit concerned about this offense.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: And they have not really run the ball either in
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: the preseason with the first string. I think they really
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: need to get Shuba back in there. I think they
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: need the mixed bone of the guy that can bang
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and bruise it. with jonathan brooks yeah um but uh
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: so anyway.
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: Back on friday night when i went back and checked
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: i found after the initial drive i found uh three
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: negative texts the rest of the way where it wasn't
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: even worth doing this segment of reaction today i went
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: back and i scrolled through the day of practice mac
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: um I stopped at four pages of stuff. I had
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: to print them out to read them on the air.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: I stopped at four pages of negativity yesterday from a practice.
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: All right, what a great day.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: And you could have gone to 40. The game was
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: three negatives. The practice here is four pages, and I
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: could have gone further than that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: John in Belmont says, did we practice any screenplays to
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: negate the pass rush? See, this is where you have
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to understand. The difference between a practice and a game
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: is they are not really countering what's, you know what
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Like, I get the feeling, Bone, they wanted to test
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Rasheed Walker and Monroe Freeling, and they gave them, Canales
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: talked about it, you know, they chipped a little bit
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: for them, but it wasn't like they were putting a
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: tight end over to help. It wasn't like, hey, let's
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: call screens here. It was like sink or swim. Bryce
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: can't get hit, so we're not going to get him hurt. Like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I think they felt like, let's see what they can do.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: And let's see how much help we need to give them.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And let's see maybe, like, all the adjustments y'all wanted
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to happen in a practice, like... I think they're just
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: gathering information so they know what they have to do in-game.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: You know what I mean? So then they can make
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: adjustments down the line. For the games, for the actual
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: games that matter.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Bingo, bongo.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: So I think we do have to lay that out there.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: This was, without game planning, without really adjusting like that,
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: it often comes down to just... ability, talent for Freeling.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: It's not ability, right? It's just experience. But like those
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Texans guys are dudes, man. And if you don't game
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: plan to stop them, you're going to have problems for
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: people calling for like game planning and adjustments yesterday. I'm
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: not really sure that's how they wanted. They, I'm not
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: sure most teams really do that in a practice as
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: bad as yesterday was. And it sucked for Freeling. There's no,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: there's no dancing around that one. There's no sugarcoating it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: It was a rough day.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: However, the upside of that would be, all right, dude
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: got to hand it to him by one of, if
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: not the best in the league at what he does.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: He'll only be better based off what happened to him yesterday.
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: So it sucks for today, but hopefully yesterday is just
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: that launching point of, all right, he saw the best
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: and now he can be better from that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So that's why they do these things. Definitely. Definitely.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: He's got a lot to learn. And I think it's
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: also a wake up call. He's going to have rough days.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Like, remember Ricky starting as a rookie, you know? I mean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: there are going to be rough days. And he's on
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: a different side than he's used to, also, for the
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: most part. That's true, too, you know?
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: So, anyway, there's a lot to talk about today, and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: we will talk about it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: People are venting. We will vent, too.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: But I also think you've got to vent and then
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: try to, like, be a little bit thoughtful about it. About, okay,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: what can they do if Freeling is an issue? Now,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: the Walker being an issue one is the one that
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think we were counting on, especially in pass pro.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: But we're going to talk through it all today here
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: on the Mac and Bone show. I do want you
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to hear from Dave Canales talking about Devin Lloyd because
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and we will talk about the defense perform. But Devin
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Lloyd was out there in shorts and a T-shirt again.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: This is the third practice he has missed bone. Maybe
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: more than that. He's been out since the joint practice
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: last week. So it may be more than that. This
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: was the update on his knee and where he's at.
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: Nope.
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: We were trying to get him back for this practice,
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: but he had some treatment. He had some pretty aggressive treatment.
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't say anything out of the norm of what
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: we're just treating guys for soreness. His knee is flared up,
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: so we weren't able to get him turned back around.
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: I don't have any concerns for him playing regular season one.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Mac, you could make the case, and it's not crazy,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: but his importance to this team is as equal to
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: Derrick Brown's based off of the other players in that area. Like, well, J.C.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: Horn's highly important. But, you know, Mike Jack is good,
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: and there's some other things you can maybe figure out.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: You take Derrick Brown off the front, we've seen what happens.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: Look at the other linebackers on this team. If you
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: took Devin Lloyd away from this team for a period
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: of time in the regular season, oh, my goodness, would
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: that be– then all of a sudden you're playing– multiple
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: guys that you don't trust so I I think you
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: take it easy right now you get to the regular
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: season it's not it's not a great feeling that he's
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: been out but I I trust that this is because
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: they know how important that dude is for the regular season.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah and Cassidy Hill was on with KB yesterday from
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: panthers.com and she reminded uh us of something that Dave
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Canales mentioned early in camp We have an extra week
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: practice over everybody but the Cardinals. So if we have
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: guys that are banged up, we can sit them out
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: a little more without worrying that they're missing key time.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: We got extra practices to play with. She said that yesterday,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: so that kind of jogged my mind. You heard what
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Dave said there. Dave makes it seem like, hey, he's
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: going to play for the opener. You know, Derek Brown's
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: had what they've called knee soreness, too. He was out
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: there bone wrecking shop yesterday, but he had a big
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: old knee brace on. I was kind of surprised. to
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: see that. As far as how the defense played, I thought,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I thought the defense probably won the day, but probably.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: By a little.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: Whereas our offense got our heinies kicked by about the
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: widest margin possible. But I thought our defense probably won
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the day slightly. Derek Brownbone was all over the place
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: in run defense. I mean, stringing plays out, getting wide,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: stuffing things up the middle. He had a pass that
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: he either deflected or altered that Stroud kind of threw errantly.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: The DBs were getting their hands on balls a ton.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Stroud completed a lot of passes. I will say that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: But it was a lot of short ones. So that was,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you know, and that's the Avero mindset, right? Keep everything
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: in front of us. They did not have big plays
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: until the end. The last drive was terrible. The two-minute
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: drill was literally like four plays, bing, bang, boom. Two
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: of them were big plays. The touchdown, they threw it
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: to the flat and literally like– I thought the Panthers
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: defense walked off the field. I mean, it was that
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: he was that open and ran for like 25 yards
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: into the end zone, but I think they only let
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: him score like twice. Maybe, you know, it was way
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: better in the offense.
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: I really appreciate your perspective on that because I, as
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: I was in transit yesterday to get back to, do
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: our stuff there, it was a large covering of the
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: offensive issue. So I didn't see a lot of defensive stuff.
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: But immediately I got there, you said, well, you were
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: kind of watching. Not everyone watches both fields. You had
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: a perspective there where you were kind of watching both fields.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: And you said, yeah, the offense, you didn't sugarcoat that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: You said, yeah, it's horrible. But maybe the defense got
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: a little overlooked yesterday because of the negatives on the
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: other field.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of people couldn't see it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: It was harder to see the defensive field because of
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: people in the middle there. I did not see everything
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Cassidy Hill did. So if you read her article, Panthers.com,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: she'll let you know what happened. She had Horn with
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: three pass breakups. Mike Jack was making plays. One thing
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I will say, and we'll talk about this as the
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: show goes on, but I will say the pass rush
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: was not really getting home. The run defense was great.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: The coverage was not allowing anything downfield, but the pass
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: rush was not. I think Brown one time would have
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: pressured Phillips a couple times, but that might have been
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I don't want to take shot at our fellow media members.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: I just don't think, Mac, that these guys have the
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: trained eyes that you do. You know how to watch
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: multiple things at once. So the point bone, he looked
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: at me at one point and said, This is where
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: having Bones YouTube TV.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: For multi-view, this is where it pays off. I said
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this is practice.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I said this is training camp for football watching to
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: watch two games at once because you've got to go
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: back and forth between the two fields.
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: Your head was like a tennis ball going from one
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: side to the other, looking at you, watching offensive play,
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: defensive play.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: Did you eavesdrop scoops more when any conversations were going
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: on yesterday?
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: I wonder if they were made aware that there was
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: a listening ear out there because, first off, I didn't
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: see Darren Gann at all.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And Joe Person.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: outside of one time, was never near me.
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: So I wonder if they heard what I had to say,
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: and they were like, let's stay away from the short, fat,
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: bald guy.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: The scouting report is out on Eastrop and Fittie.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: When I got there, Mack was positioned on his multi-view,
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: and Fittie was down there working the media line down there. Also,
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Houston has a guy that we all thought, oh my God,
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: there's a Houston Smoke Ludwig. There was a guy that
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: looked just like Smoke Ludwig on the Houston staff. It
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: was eerie, mustache and everything. Then there was a guy
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: both Fittie and I thought was Walker.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: There was a Houston. I love Johnson. There was a
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Houston Walker as well. It was like doppelgangers for all
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the Charlotte media folks.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: And then KB was dressed like a Houston Texan employee.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, he got so much flack for that.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: At one point he says, okay, about five of you
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: have told the same joke now.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Shut up.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: He was literally boned in the same color combination as
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: all the Texans employees that were walking around with their
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: red shirt and like their dark shorts. He looked like
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: he was one of the Texans employees. It was hilarious. Oh, God,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: at least we had a couple of laughs. You know
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: what Fitty was doing down there with the media bone?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Fitty was down there, hey, y'all hear about my date?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Anybody hear about my date? And it was the topic
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: of conversation. A lot of people were very interested to know.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Who was?
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Kelly Bardic.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Kelly Bardic. Kelly Bardic's very encouraging of Fitty.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Did Kelly Bardic, did she address the possible date with
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: Weatherman Mark at all?
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: She is denied with it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, no. I can't believe my turbines won't be spinning.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: She is open to doing a Mac and Bone dating
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: game again. How about that? Is this the third or
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the fourth time? This would be the third time. Yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: she's done it before way in the past. She is
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: open to us selecting three listeners and playing the dating game.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So we might have to do that, man. She is
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: quite the prize catch, man. Yeah, she got her purse
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: stolen the first date. That is true. That is definitely true.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: And then the second time was worse. She ended up
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: with Cowboy Greg.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, that was worse than getting the purse stolen.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. All right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: So let's hear out. Let's hear from Derek Brown on
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: how the defense did. Let's get this one, Fetty. He
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: he can he was he was kind of happy that
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: they didn't allow any deep balls. But you can tell
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: he knows that two minute drill ain't good enough.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Eric, you alluded to it earlier, but the defense didn't
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: give up a lot of deep plays, deep passes and
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: stuff like this. How encouraging is that for a leader
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: on the defense?
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's very encouraging. It's bombs over Baghdad, you
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: can get your ass whooped. So we don't want to
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: do that for sure.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And then to conclude on the defensive side, They put
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: together a pretty nice two-minute drill at the end. How
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: important is it from, like, I know you're obviously a player,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: but to coach the rest of your team and be like, hey,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: this can't happen, and what.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Can you possibly learn? Self-accountability, right?
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: We got to go in here and watch the tape.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: Take ownership, right? We didn't like the way that two-minute ended, but,
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, we're going to go in here and get better.
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: We're going to go in here and watch that tape
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: and be honest with one another. And, you know, I
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: think it doesn't start with the coaches, right? Like, it
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: starts with the players, right? Like, sometimes you get in
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: a room, like, I got to get on my ass.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: I got to get on somebody else's ass. And that's
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: just how it goes.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Bombs over Baghdad will get your ass whooped, Bombs. I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: don't know if you know that. He is good for
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: a quick sound bite.
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: It's not always a lot of words from Derrick Brown,
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: but they're always impactful words.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: They are. His impact per word is a high rate,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: is it not? It's always that way with him. Big time.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: And what he said there about, hey, I'm going to
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: get on your butt, you get on my, like, you know,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I just love him. That's a definitive leader in that
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: locker room. Bryce's leadership's getting better. I know Jalen Phillips
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: said Chuba's the leader of the team. In my opinion,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: that's the leader. That's the alpha. Right there, Derrick Brown.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: You hear it during the season, Bone. Who's the one
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: telling them after a bad game, hey, we got to
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: get our minds straight? Who's the one after a good
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: game saying that don't matter this week?
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Derrick freaking Brown.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: That's the man that's doing it right there, baby. No
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: doubt about it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Bombs over Baghdad. Bombs over Baghdad. I forgot the rest
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of the words. That was a song back in the day,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: wasn't it? Yeah, Outkast. Okay. Yeah.
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: Obviously, I knew that because I'm a hip-hop aficionado from
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: the early 2000s.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: That is true.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: So true.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Bombs over Baghdad. Did that sound like Outkast at all?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I think it sounds a little different here.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, I forgot that was a song.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: radio program on this Thursday edition of the show, college
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: sports stuff.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: It's that time of the day.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: A CBS report makes Lane Kiffin somehow look even worse.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: How many went to.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: The heels this year in the latest on the biggest
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: injury situation for State versus Virginia?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And a Virginia update as well. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: There's a five and seven season for the North Carolina
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Tar Heels in year two of Bill Belichick that is encouraging,
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: where you walk away from it thinking, wow, they have
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: really taken some strides, that the 40 true freshmen showed
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: up and were able to develop, that the 30 transfer
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: portal additions were properly evaluated in a way that they
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: weren't last season. You look at the schedule and you
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: can very clearly see how North Carolina could be a
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: better team than they were going 4-8 a year ago
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: and still very realistically finish with the exact same record
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: of going 4-8.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: That is Chip Patterson, CBS Sports HQ, pointing out the
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: difficulty UNC's schedule. We've talked about it all summer, the
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: fact that the team can be improved, but have basically
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the same record bone. And that was in context to
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: a question kind of about like. What does Belichick have
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: to do to kind of get another year? And he
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: was trying to make the point that they can show
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: progress even if the record does not show it. We're
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: going to talk tomorrow, Bone, about the heels and the
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: pack and kind of like win expectations and what.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Would be a good season. This Tar Heel lead up
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: to a season. I can't remember.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Any lead up to a season like this, where there's
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: so much soap opera, negative drama that has been off
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: the field, and where no one has a good thing
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: to say, and fans just.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, either shrug or either tell you, yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: let's lose a lot of games so we can move on.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: It's a very weird lead up to this UNC season.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: That starts Saturday.
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, last year had a lot of drama, but there
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: was anticipation for what Belichick could do and the money
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: they spend and how many wins they could get. This year,
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: it seems like there's drama and there's just complete deflation. Mac,
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: and I'm sure we can chronicle this more clearly, in
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: the next day or so. I have a question for
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: Heels fans that I can't answer, so it's for the
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: fitties of the world. Chip Patterson said five wins there,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: and I do think, yes, with this schedule based off
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: last year, five is a number that does seem like
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: it would be satisfying the Heels fans, but with all
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: they put in this... With the hype of Belichick a
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: year and a half ago, and Finney, would you be
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: okay with five wins? Would that get Belichick more time?
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: Or does five wins still seem like this wasn't what
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: we were promised? What does Belichick have to do to
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: satisfy the UNC fan in 2026?
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: I think it really boils down to, Bone, how does
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: it look? How competitive are you against Notre Dame, Miami, Louisville,
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: the three best teams you play on your schedule, can
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: you be in those games in the second half or
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: are those games pretty much a wrap by halftime?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: And then what do you do against your rivals?
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: Like if you're telling me we're five and seven, but
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: you get a win over State to end the year,
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: you have something to build off of going into 2027,
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: I would not be happy, but I would be content with, okay,
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: he's earned the right to see this thing through a
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: third year.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Year.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: If it's 4-8 again.
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: And Notre Dame, Miami, those teams come into Kenan Stadium
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: and wax us and we're still losing rivalry games, I
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: think there will be a lot of momentum to move
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: on because you hired him to elevate you where Mack
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: Brown could not get you.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Remember, Mack Brown in this program, 9-1, 6-0.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Without the NIL money that they have reportedly given to Belichick.
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: Without none of the resources they've given to Double B.
• 39:56
  Speaker 7: So if it's four and eight and it looks like
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: it did a lot like it did last year. I
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: think you've got to just wash your hands clean and
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: go find someone else.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: The state game, I think, they're all the ones you
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: mentioned are big for him if he can pull out
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: something there. But, Matt, that state game looms large for Belichick.
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: End of the year, even if they had a couple
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: wins along the way, they've got to beat state at
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: some point for this fan base to get some bounce.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: And I wouldn't bet your money on them beating NC State.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't bet my seven cents in my account. There
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: ain't no way in hell. A couple of things. They
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: have to look like a well-coached operation. Last year, they
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: did not even look well-coached. That was the craziest thing
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: about it. You're Bill F-ing Belichick.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Defensively, they did.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: And you did.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, defensively, they did, especially as the season went on.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: But there still were too many mistakes, Finney. Too many
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: mistakes and penalties and just dumb things being done on
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: a football field. So that's got to be cleaner. The
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: other thing, too, is the young guys, like you're trying
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: to sell us. You're 73, 74, whatever you are, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: you're trying to sell us building through young guys when
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: so many other schools, Bone, are immediately improving.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Right away. Well, dude, those young guys better look the part.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: It better look promising. Um, but then there's no guarantee
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you can keep them there, you know? So I, I,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: I personally believe I just, I personally want to get
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: to the end of this movie and try, and I
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: hope that they make a legit hire like Bubba Cunningham
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: was trying to make previously. Um, I that's, that's where
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I hope we get, but we're going to talk about
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: that a bunch tomorrow on the show and try to
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: get Tar Heel fans talking about what we're talking about.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Like, How many wins can satisfy you?
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's tough because I just feel like most
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: of Tar Heel Nation and most of the country have
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: punted on Belichick. Just in our minds, just punted on this.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: People are questioning Finney calling Belichick double B in his breakdown.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: Did you call him double B there, Finney? I did.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: There you go. You're trying to make something work over there, baby.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I think Bill is really a big nickname guy.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the Virginia-NC State game. By
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: the way, both these point spreads, Bone, you said are moving.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: And they're moving in the directions that I would have
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: thought that they would be in originally. Remember the other day,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I was like, how are the point spreads separated by
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: two points?
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: TCU by 7.5, it was Virginia by 5.5. Now, apparently,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: it's TCU by 9.5, Virginia by 4. That's kind of
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: what I was getting at.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: It's sort of coming back to a more make-sense area
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: than it was for a while. I expected the line
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: movement for Virginia State to move quicker than it did,
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: but right now it feels like it's getting back to
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: a more, okay, that makes sense area.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And the TCU thing is getting back. I mean, around
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: the touchdown?
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Like, I just I'm not feeling that, man, especially the
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: way this Jaden Craig kid, the Harvard transfer, the Harvard
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: transfer looks in camp, apparently.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll talk. We don't talk about these week
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: zero games.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: I wonder if I'm going to have to look up
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: the over under on TCU UNC. That could be a
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: possible play there. It's the first game. Offenses are new.
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: New quarterbacks in the elements could be a problem there.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: I wonder if the under it might be kind of
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: a sloppy game more so than last year for TCU.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: I think TCU wins, but it might be more of a... Yeah,
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: I could see that logic. It might not be as
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: dominant in terms of points as Washington.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I could see that logic.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: By the way, the big injury for Virginia, and Virginia's
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: got a couple receivers out. They've got a bunch of
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: players out, but in terms of real meaningful guys, they've
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: got a couple receivers out, but Cam Robinson is a
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: star at linebacker, and he's been doing more and more.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: had a season-ending injury last year, has been doing more
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: and more. The last article I read made it seem
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: like literally this is going to be like a game-day decision.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: But that could really swing things, Bone. If Duke Scott
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: doesn't have to deal with him when he hits the hole,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: you know, if you don't have him dropping into coverage
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: over the middle. That makes it a lot easier, I
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: feel like, for C.J. Bailey and NC State.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm reading a Virginia writer yesterday who's not confident
• 43:56
  Speaker 6: that Cam Robinson will get bullied out there. But he
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: is a game-time decision. He got hurt when I was
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: at the Duke game last year. He's an absolute monster.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Absolute monster.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: They have been.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: The vibe in Virginia has been, oh, man, he's ahead
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: of schedule. So maybe he's not fully ready to play,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: you know, ready to play yet. That would help state.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: That would help state.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: Virginia had so many guys out, Mac. How many was it?
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: Like 15 to 18 listed?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I can't even keep.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: Herman Moore was on that list. That's how deep that
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: list was. Man, that's a lot of camp injuries. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: thought the Panthers had a lot.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Of camp injuries.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: That's Herman Moore, a former Virginia player from the old school.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Look it up, youngins. Look it up.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Anyway, let's talk about Lane Kiffin, shall we? Because you
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: can't go a show without the latest Lane Kiffin update.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: I have to be honest, Bone, if this is true,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin is scummier than we even thought.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to put it that way.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: CBS reported yesterday, and there's an article on PFT about this,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Florio chimes in on this, but the original report is
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: from CBS that Lane Kiffin and LSU might have orchestrated
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: the Louisiana lawsuit. And some of these lawsuits against the
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: NCAA that they may have reached out bone to some
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: of these players that are playing in the NFL and
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: basically said, hey, I don't know how things are going there.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: You know, just kind of, you know, giving you the
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: gist of what the report says. I don't know how
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: things are going there. But if you file this lawsuit,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: there's a very good chance you can come back and play. So, like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: he made it seem like, he tried to make it seem, Boney, like, well,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: you know, the court ruling happened, and these guys are
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: going to play against us or for us, so I'm
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: going to take them.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: They're eligible.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: If he was out there, literally, if Lane and or LSU...
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: We're out there trying to, like, recruit these kids to
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: file the lawsuits and then come to LSU. That is
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: some shady bulljunk right there, man.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he tried the whole golly shucks.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: We're just doing what we're allowed to do right now,
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: yet you're allowed to do it because of what you
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: did to allow that to happen.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: If that's true, that's like.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's Lane Kiffin, so it's not
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: really surprising, but, man, that is some shady stuff right there.
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: How about the statement from the Louisiana governor yesterday, Mac,
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: about the whole thing? I think this has to be
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: the first time we've ever seen in a statement before,
• 46:15
  Speaker 6: don't hate the player, hate the game. Yeah, Jeff Landry
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: dropped that one on you.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. Of course, he does not care at all, Bone.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he wants all these guys. The whole state
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: of Louisiana, Bone. It's Louisiana against everybody. That's what it
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: is right now. They don't care at all. They need
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: a decent pro team down there in that state. When
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: we come back, joint practice recap. How bad was it
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: for the offense? Who had the roughest days? And who
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: shined on defense as well? Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.