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- 0:02I am the way I am. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, my
- 0:47name is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
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- 2:03Well, today we're going to talk about a challenge.
- 2:05I have for Muslims, I have been going into a YouTube users room
- 2:11by the name of EA dawa. I was introduced to him by
- 2:16watching an atheist while back who had gotten absolutely
- 2:20totaled and destroyed by you. Are called, Matt pal, Matt pal,
- 2:25debated, raging atheist, and raging atheist ended up crying
- 2:30at the end of the show. And then Matt pal, dealt with
- 2:33him again in real life and just repeated destruction to The
- 2:38Atheist movement atheist on. Even take raging atheist,
- 2:42seriously anymore. And what's sad about it is, Matt
- 2:46Powell wasn't attempting to do that and tried to make him look
- 2:50sad. He just ended up looking sad.
- 2:53The point is ladies and gentlemen, has had a raging
- 2:56atheist started. Some drama with e.
- 2:58Wait, ta-da. Wow, back.
- 3:00And that's how I found out about him and then I discovered that
- 3:04mr. Daruwala, the Muslim was making
- 3:08his own live shows and I ended up going over and visiting now,
- 3:12EA dawa's live shows are not like Brett Keen shows.
- 3:17There's usually about five or six Muslims in the room and most
- 3:21of them except for EAD. While are extremely long-winded
- 3:25and like to talk forever and ever and ever, it's more like a
- 3:29preaching sermon than it is an actual discussion and they all
- 3:33seem to be overly consumed and obsessed with the concept of is
- 3:38Jesus. God it's the it's like a repeat
- 3:42every single time you go to the show.
- 3:44It's about the Trinity about this and about that.
- 3:48And every once in a while, a Christian will come in and try
- 3:50talking to him but The Muslims unfortunately ended up putting
- 3:54people to sleep with these long dribbles.
- 3:57And, of course, they're encouraged by their Muslim
- 4:00audience because the Muslims want to make an effort to try to
- 4:05make Christians as if they don't know what they're talking about
- 4:08that the Bible's wrong, the Quran is crack that kind of
- 4:12childish nonsense. So I'm going to talk about a few
- 4:16of the points that they have put forth and I've heard the same
- 4:20repeated responses and answers. Muslims are in the various
- 4:25topics. And I got to be honest with you,
- 4:29I have to admit that it's kind of weak and infantile.
- 4:34Some of the responses that they have given, it doesn't seem like
- 4:39they're trying to be rude but I can hear the snickering and the
- 4:42laughter and their mockery of the Bible even though they
- 4:46realized just as well as I do that, most of the stories that
- 4:50are in the Quran were written. 100 years after the Bible and
- 4:54most of the information. And as copied, they claimed that
- 4:58Prophet Muhammad went into a cave and came out and started
- 5:04writing the book and didn't know all the information that God
- 5:07spoke directly to him, which is kind of weird because all the
- 5:11information that is in the Quran, 90% of it is directly
- 5:16from the Bible. So try to convince the Muslims
- 5:20at some guy in the Least who happened to live in the same
- 5:25area as the writers of the Bible, just so happened.
- 5:29Lee conveniently got the information from what the
- 5:34churches were already teaching for the last 700 years, and then
- 5:38ended up writing their own book about it.
- 5:40Changing up a few things here and there in order to make it to
- 5:43where the Muslims, of course, have their their deal.
- 5:48I guess they wanted to be considered relevant and
- 5:50significant back. Then as well as now, they're
- 5:54very proud people. But let's go ahead and talk a
- 5:58little bit about this Trinity thing.
- 6:00I was talking to some Muslims and they said, it's stupid.
- 6:05The idea that God would come down as a man and walk the
- 6:08earth. They don't realize that by
- 6:12saying that the idea of God coming down, manifesting himself
- 6:18as a physical man or anything for that.
- 6:22Matter is actually mocking their own.
- 6:26Ron they're insulting themselves when they say this and I've
- 6:30always been told that Muslims especially in the Middle East or
- 6:34talk to remember their book all the way through.
- 6:38Like their children are taught that they need to memorize all
- 6:42the passages in the Quran and the Hadith, but they don't
- 6:48apparently and I'll give you an example.
- 6:51If it is stupid for God to come down as a man, And that's just
- 6:57not logical to them for God, to be able to do that.
- 7:03Then we have to ask herself. Why would god require profits
- 7:08for instance, to do any kind of talking for him?
- 7:13Why does the Quran teach that Angels were required in order to
- 7:18go down and speak to humanity or even Prophet?
- 7:22Muhammad himself. I mean if it's not logical and
- 7:26that it's not necessary, it surely isn't necessary for an
- 7:31all-powerful, omnipresent omnipresent omniscient deity to
- 7:35call upon anybody to do anything for him.
- 7:39God demonstrates throughout the Bible as well as the Quran and
- 7:43many other. Holy books out there that
- 7:45mention him that God is perfectly capable of speaking
- 7:49directly into our minds and to our ear and he can even speak
- 7:54during us. Dorm and get our attention and
- 7:57make us focus on what he is. That he's saying, whatever
- 8:00message that might be. So, a perfect example in the
- 8:06Quran. That is also taught in the
- 8:08Bible. Ladies and gentlemen, is the
- 8:11burning bush. Yeah.
- 8:14The Quran actually has a story of the burning bush with Moses.
- 8:18Moses walked upon the physical manifestation, God comes as a
- 8:24burning bush. Now they'll claim will God
- 8:29wasn't actually the burning bush.
- 8:31He was just talking. Through the burning bush but I
- 8:35mean who really cares when you think about it.
- 8:39I'm Muslim, got triggered. Whenever I said this to him in
- 8:42the live show whether it's nothing more than a fancy light
- 8:48show or God's microphone on his way of speaking.
- 8:52To Moses. The point is that God created
- 8:55the physical manifestation, that wasn't even necessary.
- 8:59Could have spoken directly to Moses just as he had done.
- 9:03Many of the men before. So, why would God do this?
- 9:08I mean, according to them, anytime God creates a physical
- 9:12manifestation of himself or a representation or an image of
- 9:17himself, this is illogical. This is the argument they make
- 9:23for why Jesus Christ can't be God and God would never send
- 9:28some kind of divine figures to the Earth to do anything like
- 9:32this. Now, keep in mind, they believe
- 9:35the prophet Muhammad is also the most significant and relevant
- 9:40figure and their book. However, even their own Quran
- 9:43teaches that Jesus Christ was the only, The only person ever
- 9:52born of a virgin a Divine Concepcion Concepcion Immaculate
- 9:58Conception, as you might put it just as in the Bible, the Quran
- 10:02teaches that Jesus Christ was born of a virgin.
- 10:06This is extremely significant and relevant, it also teaches in
- 10:11the Quran. That when the end of the world
- 10:13comes, Guess who's going to return Jesus Christ during the
- 10:19apocalypse and the Doom of the earth and destruction, Jesus is
- 10:23supposed to return. And according to the Muslims,
- 10:26he's going to walk the earth. Isn't that strange?
- 10:30They tell you that it's stupid for Jesus to walk the earth back
- 10:35then having any Divinity or power of God in him yet in their
- 10:40own book, it teaches that he's going to die and Rise Again.
- 10:45Doesn't give you a time. Doesn't give you a date, but it
- 10:49says that Jesus will die and they're Quran and rise.
- 10:54And they believe that is a an event that is yet to come that
- 10:59will sooner or later come to be as we're Christians.
- 11:02Believe that happened 2,000 years ago and the next time
- 11:06Jesus comes, he's going to rock and roll.
- 11:09There's some problems with the Quran and Muslims will hate to
- 11:13admit this, but according to their own book, the end of the
- 11:18world is supposed to happen when Jesus Christ returns and judges
- 11:22the world. Now, here's a problem here.
- 11:26How can Muslims also then say that Jesus is going to walk the
- 11:31earth? Died?
- 11:32A natural death and Rise Again. How can they say that?
- 11:39It doesn't make any kind of sense, does it?
- 11:41Why would Jesus walk on an World?
- 11:44A planet that is going to end up being destroyed.
- 11:47According to the Bible, there's going to be a new world and a
- 11:51new Earth and a new Heaven that is going to come into existence
- 11:56and the Quran follows along with that.
- 11:59So if there is no Earth, whenever the apocalypse happens
- 12:03and everyone dies in this destroyed, then what is Jesus
- 12:07Christ? Supposed to be walking.
- 12:08Going on. If there is no Earth to be
- 12:10walked on, there is many many contradictions throughout the
- 12:16Quran, but I can already tell that the Muslims already have
- 12:20their hands full with the Trinity arguments.
- 12:22That's all they ever want to talk about.
- 12:25And they think that the somehow makes their religion look right
- 12:28as where Christianity is somehow incorrect.
- 12:32It doesn't it doesn't at all for me.
- 12:35And they also think because they had one single Rider that wrote
- 12:39a book about God that this somehow makes them seem more
- 12:43perfect incorrect than the Bible.
- 12:45As where the Bible actually has almost 80 interactions with
- 12:50generation after generation of human beings who actually state
- 12:56that they had a relationship of God and interacted and engaged
- 12:59him. I would think that a collection
- 13:02of Books and then archive and engagement interactions, and
- 13:06miracles with God would be much more significant than one guy
- 13:10who hung out in a cave. Got spoken to by either Angels
- 13:15or Jen and then decided to write a book that by the way, doesn't
- 13:22have any new information at the Bible doesn't already cover.
- 13:26In fact, T' after waiting 700 years to write that book, they
- 13:32missed the whole story about the disciples.
- 13:35They don't have anything on the disciples.
- 13:37They don't have anything on Judas.
- 13:40Betraying, Jesus Christ, they don't have anything about Peter
- 13:44and why Jesus even walked with the disciples in the first place
- 13:47seems like they missed a lot or maybe the prophet Muhammad, just
- 13:51got lazy and decided not to follow through with the entire
- 13:55story and engagement in life of Jesus.
- 13:58Christ. Well, luckily for us, the Quran
- 14:03does mention that Jesus Christ, unlike Prophet Muhammad was the
- 14:07Messiah. That's right.
- 14:09And that means of Jesus Christ. According to their book is the
- 14:13anointed one that makes him damn, special and relevant
- 14:17overall profits that ever existed Bible and Quran
- 14:20together. The other thing that they have
- 14:24is and I want to make it clear, I'm not some kind of apologist
- 14:29for the Trinity as far as I'm concerned.
- 14:32It's a work in progress and I think that a lot of Christians
- 14:35as well as people of all, different phase have been
- 14:38arguing over the Trinity for over 2000 years and I have a
- 14:43hard time being able to explain it and make it coherent and
- 14:46logical. That's not my problem.
- 14:49That's not my issue at the Of the day.
- 14:52If Jesus Is God, I'm fine with that.
- 14:55If Jesus is an extension of God and simply the Son of God, I'm
- 14:59fine with that. I don't have an issue with that.
- 15:02Either way, as long as I believe in God, whether he's Jesus, or
- 15:07whether he's some enormous entity that is floating around,
- 15:11in the externality of space. I got no issues with that
- 15:15because I know that my God is intelligent enough to understand
- 15:18and know my heart. And that I have a lot of
- 15:21Questions and God will most likely spend a little bit of
- 15:24time with me and give me some answers, but as far as eternity
- 15:29goes, I can see it both different ways.
- 15:33Why can't God be several or many Consciousness Consciousness has?
- 15:39And the Bible, we see a story about a figure called Legion.
- 15:44It's where a man is possessed by several consciousnesses at the
- 15:47same time, he has like 2,000 and Demons Inside of him.
- 15:53Now if demons can actually exist within the body of a physical
- 15:57man and they can actually think and behave and act and actually
- 16:02control what the body does, then why would it be difficult to
- 16:06believe that God can't do the same thing?
- 16:10Why can't God actually be able to go into a man with a spirit
- 16:16and a Consciousness or several Consciousness is and do things.
- 16:20How is that illogical? How is that unnecessary to say
- 16:24something like that, to save it? This could not have happened
- 16:28because it's not logical or necessary is stupid.
- 16:31There's a lot of things in the Bible as well as the Koran that
- 16:35did not need to happen. It did not need to happen.
- 16:41Did you know this, ladies and gentlemen?
- 16:43Let me let you all in on something else to the Muslims
- 16:47claim that Jesus Christ didn't die on the cross.
- 16:50There book says that God deceptively made it to where it
- 16:54appeared as though a man died on the cross.
- 16:58But it wasn't Jesus. That God actually took Jesus off
- 17:01the Earth and allowed another man to die in his place.
- 17:05And it's claiming that their God did that, that their God
- 17:09deceived the entire human race and made it appear.
- 17:13As though, something happened, that was simply not true.
- 17:19And for thousands of years, there have been Jews.
- 17:23Countless Jews, as well as Christians have been
- 17:25worshipping. This View that Jesus is God and
- 17:30that he was sacrificed for the sins of the world.
- 17:33What does that say about their religion?
- 17:35Then that their God deliberately caused Christianity to come
- 17:41into, existence caused Islam. To be one of the less popular
- 17:46religions on the planet that their God just sat back and
- 17:51allowed bad PR to happen to them for the last 50 years on our Is
- 17:58insights and Screen where people are literally terrified of
- 18:02Muslims and scared. That something dangerous.
- 18:05Her bad is going to happen. It's bad PR.
- 18:08Now, don't get me wrong, there's some Christians out there.
- 18:12Priests have been given some bad PR as well.
- 18:17But that's the point. How would they defend that or
- 18:20justify that in any way? I already have an answer for
- 18:24everything that I've asked, whenever it comes to the Bible.
- 18:27But how would they deal with the challenge of this nature?
- 18:32To say that God wouldn't do something because it's not
- 18:35logical or even necessary. God doesn't need to do.
- 18:39That is not a response. Dear Muslims.
- 18:43I can easily make the argument of why would an all-powerful
- 18:47all-knowing? God, who has everything?
- 18:50Why would it even be necessary for it to create the begin with?
- 18:54Why even start the universe? Why create entropy for in the
- 18:58second law of Thermodynamics? Why create 8, the Earth.
- 19:02Why create people? Why is their life?
- 19:05Why is their death? I could go on all day about
- 19:08that. If you want to go that
- 19:10direction, if you really want to take that path, filled to the
- 19:14brim with potholes. Well, ladies and gentlemen.
- 19:22This will be part one. I think that I've given the
- 19:25Muslims a great deal to think about and I would love to be
- 19:29able to have some discussions with Muslims, but if I'm going
- 19:33to do it, it's going to be on my wife showing are my radio.
- 19:36I am not going to go into their rooms to where I can just sit
- 19:40there for hours and hours, listening to them.
- 19:43Sermonize to me, and never give me the ability to be able to
- 19:46talk or respond, or have a thought and the conversation.
- 19:51I don't think that they're deliberately trying to be rude
- 19:54when they do that, but it is not necessary.
- 19:59Dear Muslims for you to give 20 different analogies to something
- 20:04that I didn't even ask in the first place.
- 20:08I want us to focus. I want us to have a conversation
- 20:13and my ambition and desire. What?
- 20:15I like to see if you don't mind me going a little bit outside
- 20:18the box here. I'd like to see Muslims and
- 20:22Christians, find Common Ground. I'd like Muslims and Christians
- 20:26to work with each other and actually help the human race
- 20:32understand why there is a God, and why he's worthy to be
- 20:36praised. We got A rise of atheism
- 20:40happening in society, ladies and gentlemen, and I think that
- 20:44those who believe there's a higher power and those who have
- 20:47good reason to believe it and trust in God, we should work
- 20:51together not against each other. We already have a group out
- 20:55there that would love to see all the mosque in.
- 20:57All the churches, tore down. There's a lot of atheists out
- 21:01there have the same attitude. Is that off?
- 21:03Hitler and Stalin. Who would like to see that.
- 21:05Absolute destruction of our faith.
- 21:10I think we need to stand together.
- 21:12We need to work with each other, as opposed to try to point the
- 21:16finger at all these different things.
- 21:19This is part one, ladies and gentlemen, You've been listening
- 21:24to Brett Keane from God TV radio.