Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Wings for Widows - TPR's In Focus - Oct. 8, 2026
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- 0:20From Troy Public Radio,
- 0:23this is In Focus, and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:28The sudden loss of a loved one can be devastating emotionally,
- 0:31emotionally and financially. Certified financial planner
- 0:36David Hayes learned of an organization called
- 0:39the Foundation for Financial Planning and
- 0:43its Wings for Widows nonprofit. So he decided
- 0:48to share his expertise as a volunteer with those
- 0:51who are bereaved. He joins us today on
- 0:55The Exchange from his office at Longbow Capital Partners
- 0:59in Homewood, Alabama, with advice on how to navigate
- 1:03the loss of a spouse.
- 1:09David Hayes, thank you so much for joining us as a Certified
- 1:13Financial Planner here on The Exchange.
- 1:16Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to be here. David,
- 1:19Certified Financial Planners have a lot of expertise to
- 1:23share with people. However, you were moved to give back
- 1:27in service. What happened? Yeah, so I
- 1:32had quite a few ladies come in looking
- 1:36for guidance and/or second opinions who have been
- 1:40struggling with maybe divorce or the loss of a spouse.
- 1:44And that really opened up my eyes to the need
- 1:48for strong financial guidance during those really difficult
- 1:52seasons of life. And so when I started doing a deeper
- 1:56dive into that, I just realized how big the need really was.
- 2:00You delved into an organization called the Foundation
- 2:04for Financial Planning and ended up with a
- 2:07program called Wings for Widows. What's that about? That's right.
- 2:11So yeah, the Foundation for Financial Planning is a wonderful organization
- 2:15that connects certified financial practitioners with some
- 2:19nonprofit organizations that offer pro bono financial
- 2:23planning for a variety of different people in need,
- 2:26veterans, widows, terminal illnesses.
- 2:30And so yeah, because of my experiences with some of my
- 2:34clients in the past, I was drawn to Wings for Widows.
- 2:38It's a wonderful organization. It is specifically
- 2:42for widows who are dealing with the loss of a
- 2:46loved one and also having to make financial decisions during that
- 2:50grief period. And so I really enjoy using my
- 2:53expertise to walk them through making some of those tough financial decisions.
- 2:58When you began this volunteer work,
- 3:01what were the situations you found these widows in?
- 3:06Some of the widows had just recently lost their husband,
- 3:09so they were still very much going through the grieving process while having
- 3:14to gather documents and figure out login information
- 3:18and go through estate and probate. That's a
- 3:23lot to handle. For anybody, but especially someone who's grieving. And then some
- 3:27other people that I've worked with, it might have been a year or two
- 3:31since their spouse passed away. I think it's always better to try to reach out
- 3:35and get help sooner rather than later, because there are some things that
- 3:39we really want to try to attend to right when a life event happens.
- 3:43Usually, people fall in one of those two categories. It's such a sensitive
- 3:48subject, as you have discovered. People can be very sick.
- 3:52Their loved one has that responsibility for their healthcare
- 3:56right there at the moment. And then when a death happens
- 4:00unexpectedly, where do they turn? What do they do?
- 4:05Can you give us some advice there? Yeah, absolutely. So I
- 4:09would hope that you might already have some plans in place.
- 4:13If you're working with a CFP professional and they're doing their
- 4:17job, they should have everything in one place that they've
- 4:21helped you gather. But Having a conversation with your spouse before something happens
- 4:25is always the best way to handle it. What I recommend to my clients
- 4:29is go ahead and put together a folder, whether it be a hard copy
- 4:33or electronic, that includes all the important documents
- 4:37that you would need. And so we want to be able to put our hands
- 4:40on wills and any trust documents if
- 4:44there's a trust involved. We want to be able to just get our
- 4:48hands on something as simple as a monthly budget. A lot of spouses
- 4:51kind of let one handle it and the other one doesn't know much about it.
- 4:55I think recording login information, log into your bank,
- 4:58log into your credit card or whatever your login might be,
- 5:03log into your investment accounts, 401s, so that
- 5:06someone can have access to that information if they need
- 5:10it. With your experience, how would you advise having
- 5:14that conversation with a spouse? It's such a sensitive
- 5:18area. Yes, it is sensitive, but it is necessary.
- 5:22And so I think the best way to bring up the conversation is
- 5:26just being direct and asking them, what do you think would happen
- 5:31if you were gone, or I were gone tomorrow? And then
- 5:34that can really kind of put it in a very practical frame of reference
- 5:38of, yeah, how do I get money out of our bank account? How do I
- 5:41pay the bills? How do I get life insurance benefits,
- 5:46and start thinking through, okay, what all do we need to make sure
- 5:50that we're on the same page with if one of us was suddenly gone
- 5:54and the other one had to handle all the affairs by themselves.
- 5:58Back to the Wings for Widows Foundation.
- 6:01How do you work with a widow or a grieving spouse?
- 6:06Where do you start? Wings for Widows does a great job
- 6:09of doing the introduction. So a widow would go onto their
- 6:14website and request assistance, and then they
- 6:17would reach out to the certified financial planner and
- 6:21do the introduction. And then from there, I would reach out
- 6:25to them usually through an email, sharing condolences and
- 6:29asking them when would be a good time for us to jump on a phone
- 6:33call, just an introductory phone call to kind of understand what
- 6:36situation they're in, kind of the specifics of their case,
- 6:40and tell them a little bit about myself. And then from there,
- 6:44if the widow wants to proceed, we would set
- 6:48up a second meeting where we would go more in depth on the details
- 6:52of What does the balance sheet look like? What are the concerns
- 6:56that are at the top of your priority list right now? Are there any things
- 6:59that you really are worried about that are causing you to lose sleep
- 7:04at night or really stressed out over? And we would start just by gathering that
- 7:07information and tackling those topics kind of in order of priority.
- 7:11You hit on something important when you talked about losing sleep
- 7:16at night and the anxiety. This must be why you're recommending
- 7:20reaching out to a certified financial planner sooner
- 7:25rather than later? Absolutely. Again, it's, it's a
- 7:28very delicate situation because we know that their
- 7:32whole life has been turned upside down and they are grieving, and it is very
- 7:36difficult to think clearly in some of those situations. But we
- 7:40do want to go ahead and start addressing just the
- 7:43things that absolutely need to be addressed right away. I usually recommend
- 7:48to my clients that we don't want to make any decisions that we don't have
- 7:52to make for at least 3 to 6 months after our spouse passes away.
- 7:55But there are some of those decisions that we do need to make
- 7:59in those first few months, like going ahead and getting our hands on
- 8:03the will and starting the probate process and
- 8:07opening up that in the state of Alabama, it has to be open
- 8:10for at least 6 months. We want to go ahead and start that window.
- 8:14And then yeah, there's other things that we need to address by collecting
- 8:18insurance benefits, or maybe canceling insurance policies that are no
- 8:22longer necessary. Anything like that, that we can save money on or
- 8:26making sure that we're collecting the money that we deserve, we want to go ahead
- 8:29and get that process going. So here is the importance
- 8:33of having that folder, going ahead and building that folder out
- 8:37so that you have something to rely on when the death happens.
- 8:41Absolutely. Unfortunately, I've worked with quite a few widows
- 8:45who were left without a folder like that, and it drags the
- 8:48process out, creates a lot more of that angst and stress.
- 8:52And then you see the flip side of that where someone did have it organized
- 8:56and neat in one place. And while the processes still can be cumbersome,
- 9:01it is much easier than it could have been without it. The Wings for
- 9:04Widows and the Foundation for Financial Planning, 2 great
- 9:09resources. I want to thank you for your advice today. Absolutely.
- 9:12Thank you. And I, yes, I would definitely encourage your listeners
- 9:15to go check out both of those organizations. Joining us from Homewood
- 9:20was David Hayes, a certified financial planner who
- 9:24shares his volunteer time with the nonprofit Wings for Widows.
- 9:29Thanks for joining us today for In Focus, which is a
- 9:32podcast wherever you get your podcasts. And feel free to
- 9:37get in touch at infocus@troy.edu.
- 9:40I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported
- 9:44Troy Public Radio.