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Ari Lennox Talks "Age Sex Location", Former Uber Driver Horror Stories, Dating In 2022 & More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Morning.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is d j Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got special guests in
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  Speaker 1: the building. She's been here with all this big queen energy.
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  Speaker 1: Ari A Lenox welcome, first time on the Breakfast Club. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: We're welcome. Thank you so much. How you feel this morning? Horrified?
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm just a little nervous you because you're
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  Speaker 1: just kidding. Yeah, but it's just a little nervous. It's
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  Speaker 1: a very legendary, you know show. So what took you
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  Speaker 1: so long to come up? Hitting fear? Fear? Yeah? What
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  Speaker 1: you scared of y'all? And yeah, I love wed. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's just you know, y'all can be a little tough
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  Speaker 1: on people sometimes. Yeah, we've evolved, We've changed the whole lots. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel that. I feel that. Yes, I want
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  Speaker 1: to if you don't mind, you know, for people that
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  Speaker 1: don't know who Ari Lennox is, or where you're signed to,
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  Speaker 1: or how you got your story, I want to start
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  Speaker 1: from the beginning for those people, since this is your
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  Speaker 1: to do a documentary. Oh yeah, so you're signed to
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  Speaker 1: J Cole. How did you get into the music industry
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  Speaker 1: and signed to Cole. Oh um, Well, I was working
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  Speaker 1: at public storage and just dropping music on SoundCloud and
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  Speaker 1: there's an amazing rapper name Omen. He loved my music.
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  Speaker 1: He told Eve and Cole about it, and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: we'll fly you out like tomorrow or tonight something like
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  Speaker 1: that so that you can meet Cole and the studio
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And I was horrified. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I just got the job. I didn't want to lose
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  Speaker 1: the job. It was ten dollars an hour. It was
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  Speaker 1: the highest paid job I ever had an hour. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I didn't want to like lose this, so I
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  Speaker 1: almost didn't go. And but honestly, I think it was fear,
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  Speaker 1: you know, fear of flying and things like that. But
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  Speaker 1: I just I got over it. I drank Matt vodka
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  Speaker 1: and I got on That flight. Was the first flight
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  Speaker 1: as well, first flight in a long time, like years.
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  Speaker 1: Lose your job, yeah I did, and I was. I
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  Speaker 1: was horrified, and I started doing uber. There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: here now. First of all, what were you afraid? Why
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  Speaker 1: are you afraid of flying? Oh well, I had a
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  Speaker 1: traumatic experience when I was young on a flight or
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  Speaker 1: and so um, the crash or something. Yeah, well the
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  Speaker 1: engines went out and so yeah and so as yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so as we're about to land, he's basically telling us
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  Speaker 1: to brace for impact. And I was very young and
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  Speaker 1: just praying. But I don't remember having fear before that moment.
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  Speaker 1: But after that moment um, and we didn't fly that
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  Speaker 1: often after that, I it just I became I was
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  Speaker 1: just scared of trauma. Yeah. Absolutely. And so you said
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  Speaker 1: you were making music, So I mean, who was doing
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  Speaker 1: your beach? How are you affording production? Right? I was
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  Speaker 1: recording myself on pro tools se very beginners, uh, situation
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  Speaker 1: and um, working with different producers from Dave James to
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  Speaker 1: DJ Gromble and yeah. But I love the fact that
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  Speaker 1: what was that think, Oh no, I don't have the
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  Speaker 1: gumming Okay, why is everybody telling me go, oh I did?
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  Speaker 1: Was I chewing them? No? No, I was just I
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  Speaker 1: just got the note I did have. I did have
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  Speaker 1: a lossenger No. Yeah, but it's sorry now, like, are
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  Speaker 1: you passing me note? I do love the fact that
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  Speaker 1: it says a lot about you that even though you
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  Speaker 1: have a dream of music, like I got a job. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds a lot about you that you just didn't say, now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm after my job, you know what I mean? Even
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  Speaker 1: though I do want to be a singer, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna just say after my job. That's a scary thing
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  Speaker 1: to say my job when you just got it, just
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  Speaker 1: got it. Yeah, but glad you took that chance. Me too.
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  Speaker 1: Now you're driver right now. Now let's let's let's rewind.
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  Speaker 1: Now you lose your job and you become a loogle driver.
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  Speaker 1: I can't see you, d h am. I good driver.
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  Speaker 1: It depends very I'm very safe at driving, yes, but
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  Speaker 1: there are things that have happened where it's just like
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  Speaker 1: I could have been more a little bit more alert. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: where you're Where was your star rating? My star rating? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: It started dropping like crazy. And I don't I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. Some people thought I was driving
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  Speaker 1: too fast or I think people are kind of picky,
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't think I was driving that fast. One
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  Speaker 1: note I got was I was switching lanes too much,
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  Speaker 1: but I was trying to get them. Then, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what soul that. Yeah, I was public storage. No,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have no big fancy you know, tell me, um,
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  Speaker 1: it was just a nice black um interior and a
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  Speaker 1: big bowl of candy and drivers have candy. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: did have my charger. I would give because you know
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  Speaker 1: you can't trust did your music I did? No, not
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  Speaker 1: my I would never I mean never, no, hell no never.
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  Speaker 1: That's so strange. Yeah, huh no never never did I? No? No, no? Never.
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  Speaker 1: Did you make conversation or were you quiet? I made
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  Speaker 1: some conversations sometimes. Um three times people threw threw up
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  Speaker 1: in my car? Yeah, that was intense. Do they pay
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  Speaker 1: for how does that work? Do they pay for it?
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  Speaker 1: Or they paid for it, but it's nowhere near enough.
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  Speaker 1: And then you lose like five days of work because
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  Speaker 1: your car stinks and you're traumatized. Yeah. How long did
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  Speaker 1: you have the interesting? This is my longest job today, uber,
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  Speaker 1: I probably did for like at least a year or something. Wow, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe a little more like on and off? And
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  Speaker 1: what music was you playing? I'm sure it was R
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  Speaker 1: and B Tam and Paula um DeAngelo. That's those are
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  Speaker 1: two specific names I remember playing in my car. The
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  Speaker 1: people that threw up, I was like, please get out
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  Speaker 1: after he after he projectile vomited, and it was just
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  Speaker 1: everywhere I was back. Oh and then another time, It's lady.
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  Speaker 1: After she threw up um, they asked me if I
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  Speaker 1: could still take her home. She was but we had
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  Speaker 1: already stopped at like her initial her other friend's house.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, no, I have to get home. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere. It's dark. I puke like over.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody'd be nice to your Uber driver. Okay, that's the
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  Speaker 1: whole world of this death. I guess the meeting didn't
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  Speaker 1: go well because you lost your job, but then you
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  Speaker 1: started driving Uber. No, the meeting went really well. I
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  Speaker 1: just you know, I had to still make money. You know.
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  Speaker 1: They were still you know, taking their time with the
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  Speaker 1: idea of like signing me. It wasn't like an immediate
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  Speaker 1: thing or anything. This is my last Uber question. When
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  Speaker 1: you saw that, when you saw the episode of Insecure
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  Speaker 1: when he was driving, did you say, oh, I see me?
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  Speaker 1: Didn't see Oh yeah, yeah she drove Insecure. Wow. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a loser. I need to you know why
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  Speaker 1: I never watched Insecure because every time I would watch
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  Speaker 1: an episode, I would just get so sad about my
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  Speaker 1: life and how like sexy these men were and how
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  Speaker 1: I had no men. But but that's my choice. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like my che maybe it is it is my
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  Speaker 1: choice that you could have a man, but it might
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  Speaker 1: not be that when some people are okay with settling
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  Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, I don't want to be alone, and
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  Speaker 1: people make you feel like that. But the truth is
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  Speaker 1: it's better to like wait till the right person, because
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  Speaker 1: I think that's even more lonely to be with somebody
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  Speaker 1: just for the sake of Absolutely, absolutely, And I've definitely
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  Speaker 1: learned that like the hard way, so very like intentional.
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  Speaker 1: I'm particular about like who I want to share my
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  Speaker 1: time with. So I find myself alone a lot because I, um,
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  Speaker 1: it's just not working. Why not change the mindset a little?
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  Speaker 1: Like you see the sexy man and you'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that one day. I'm gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: man like that for myself one day. I've been more
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  Speaker 1: adamant on like my standards. Absolutely I do do that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm more like, yes, he has to be fine,
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  Speaker 1: Yes he has to have a nice job. Yes he
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  Speaker 1: has to be good to me, an effective communicator, like
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  Speaker 1: I am, like have his own place. He did have
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  Speaker 1: his own place, I am you know, chanting those things
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  Speaker 1: within what kind of pas yeahs to be like a mansion.
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  Speaker 1: I would like him to have his own um condo
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  Speaker 1: or a house. Okay, I'm nice and my assistant loves you, right, Mercedes, Mercedes.
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  Speaker 1: So she sent me a couple of questions. One of
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  Speaker 1: the questions she said, you have a song called pof. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: she's single, by the way, right, she says, have you
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  Speaker 1: tried the dating app pof? And what you ever catfish?
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  Speaker 1: And then she goes, by the way, that dating site
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  Speaker 1: is terrible? Oh, so have you ever tried Plenty of
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  Speaker 1: Fish before? Absolutely? I met my first boyfriend on pos?
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  Speaker 1: Really his name is John. I don't I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I'll get in trouble for that, but yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't have said of name John is lit? Right? John
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be so lit when the interview come out.
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  Speaker 1: So how many? How many people have you picked up
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  Speaker 1: from plenty of Fish? And is that just one? Just yet?
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  Speaker 1: Picked up with some dating sites because I didn't believe
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  Speaker 1: that it was you, Yeah, tender Um, they didn't believe
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  Speaker 1: it was me, and I didn't want to blank my
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  Speaker 1: Instagram so that people would know it's me and then
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  Speaker 1: maybe reach out to me for the wrong reasons like
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  Speaker 1: secret rappers. This is fly. I think human, thank you?
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  Speaker 1: What is happening here? I think I need to step
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  Speaker 1: outside more. I've I've definitely created this bubble online for
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  Speaker 1: so many years. But I'm finally stepping outside and like
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  Speaker 1: meeting like nice, like you know, enjoyable individuals. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: plenty of fish, yeah, not recently, Christian Tender, not recently,
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  Speaker 1: Christian Mingle, not never Christian Mingle. I'm too ratchet African
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  Speaker 1: ancestry for old Oh god, I mean what about Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the celebrity dating site that everybody you have to
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  Speaker 1: get like a referral, right, I think that's where I'm
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  Speaker 1: at Wood and now and it's it's been there. Ye,
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  Speaker 1: Chris rock will give you a referral, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd is on there, and Chris Rockwood gave her
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  Speaker 1: a referral. That's sweet. I saw Chris rock on there.
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  Speaker 1: I did one time. Did you think it was him?
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  Speaker 1: For real? I did think it was him. They let
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  Speaker 1: you out on Riot, Yeah, like everyone's real. I hope.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go back to John for a second. Why did
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  Speaker 1: you throw John back in the sea? Well, John went
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  Speaker 1: to the military, and I felt like we were growing apart.
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  Speaker 1: And the affection was lacking. He called me bro one
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  Speaker 1: and I was just like, you know what, I couldn't yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it triggered me. But and I know it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just bro like, it's fine, you can call me that.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I felt like our romance was kind of dissipating,
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  Speaker 1: and so I think that was just a triggering thing.
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  Speaker 1: And we had an argument and I was like, well,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: I guess we're not together anymore. And that's kind of
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  Speaker 1: where to protect myself. Unfortunately I do that and U
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, okay, fine, we're not together anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and he was really serious, Well his loss. How many
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  Speaker 1: songs is he inspired? Um? Probably po F the the
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  Speaker 1: EP and my album Shape Butter Baby. That's literally greatly
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  Speaker 1: inspired by him. And I'm so grateful. What was the
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  Speaker 1: first relationship I ever had? And he was it was
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  Speaker 1: the most interesting relationship I've ever had. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: know women, Yeah, we're cool. We check on each other sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get an EP credit sh well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: when you just don't want to get back together and
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  Speaker 1: back I know women that swear by Shape Butter Baby,
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  Speaker 1: like they like that's like their their bible. So that's
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  Speaker 1: that's big of him. He John make the T shirt
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  Speaker 1: I inspired shape butter Man those T shirts please. I
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: was going to ask you, so, your government name is
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: not Ari lens Yeah, so where did you get the
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: name Ari Lenox? Well, The Secret Garden is like one
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: of my favorite movies growing up, and I was looking
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: for like a name with the cool, like English last name.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of regret that now because like I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I could have thought of something way more like
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: earthy or science. To think Courtney was is great, but
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: I like the separation of like people not knowing Courtney
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  Speaker 1: unless you really look me up or something. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the girl's name was Mary Lennox and I kind of
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: just remixed it into Ari Lennox and I'm Aries and
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  Speaker 1: I love India Ari, And yeah, don't yelling at your
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  Speaker 1: government name. You don't know why they call you Courtney
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  Speaker 1: or did they call you Ari if it's real Courtney
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, if it becomes real Courtney for sure. Now
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  Speaker 1: what you were attended for hookups? Or was it for
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  Speaker 1: like really trying to find love? I think I was delusional.
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  Speaker 1: I think I didn't know how I could find people,
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  Speaker 1: and so like I would get on there hoping for more,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of times I would meet very surface situation. Right?
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  Speaker 1: Does that bother you? Are you okay with like just
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  Speaker 1: a you know, sometimes you might just be like, I
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: don't need this to be all deep, I just want
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  Speaker 1: to have fun. I it would bother me now, like
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  Speaker 1: I've wanted something meaningful and forever and just one man
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  Speaker 1: for life, or at least for like a good twenty years,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and then after that it would be a
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  Speaker 1: nice cute seasonal love love. What's the difference between Ari
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  Speaker 1: Lennox the artist in Courtney the person? Wow? Oh, Ari
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  Speaker 1: is this? Um? I don't freaking know. They intertwined. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we're both I think very ratchet and um anxious and
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  Speaker 1: sweet and giving and um maybe a little impulsive, just
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  Speaker 1: the entire definition of aries. I believe they're both that way.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Ari, Well, honestly, yeah, they're both the same. You
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  Speaker 1: think you created the character already protect Courtney. I think
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  Speaker 1: Ari is more of like some sunglasses for me a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. But Courtney always is so feisty, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like that's that's who be popping out, That's who
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  Speaker 1: comes out, you know. So yeah, and that's why I
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: love the song Boy Bye with Lucky Day, the feistiness
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  Speaker 1: and that song. It's so funny to me. So you've
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  Speaker 1: met a lot of guys like, well, you've dated guys
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  Speaker 1: and they've been secret rappers. I thought that was really funny.
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  Speaker 1: Oh when you date somebody and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden you find out later like your pastors to cold
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: for me exactly, Oh my god, and it's the worst.
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  Speaker 1: Um it happens, like but that's why I've learned with
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  Speaker 1: dating acts specific questions. Are you a rapper? Do you
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  Speaker 1: play basketball? Specifically? Goodness? What if he's good? Like, what
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  Speaker 1: if you date somebody and you meet them and they're
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  Speaker 1: like a secret rapper but they're actually good. I will
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  Speaker 1: never be able to trust that you genuinely want to
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  Speaker 1: be here for me and not try to get to
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Cole or you know, dream Bill or interscope like you know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that is hilarious. That's a plot for a movie or something.
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  Speaker 1: The girl thinks that the guy is cheating, but he's
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: really sneaking off the recording escape exactly. And I was
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: gonna say, how when when you signed the coal how
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: was that and what made you decide to sign to him?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Because he is a rapper's an artist. He might not
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: know about R and B music, and you know, you
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: kind of have to trust his lead. Wow. I think
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: it was just immediately like a family situation. Like I
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: was living in Charlotte, North Carolina for so long and
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: I was just ubering it up, and you know, I
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: would travel back and forth to Raleigh at this uh
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: place that he made for to create music for all
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: of these artists call the Shelter, and a lot of
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: us would just be like hanging out in there and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: just making music, and it felt like home. It felt
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: like a second home. I hated having to go back
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: to my mom's house, and well, I loved my mom
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: in her house, but you know, I I loved going
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: to Raleigh and feeling like I'm doing something with my
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: life and I'm learning so much about life in this
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: music business. So yeah, he does his homework a lot too,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's yeah into it, like he's he has no
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  Speaker 1: ego when it comes to he asking anyone questions that
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  Speaker 1: I respect that. And what did your mom and your
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: family say when you were recording with Cole and going
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: out there and recording Because a lot of times parents
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: don't believe in the industry. Right, Well, my dad never
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: really knew what was going on in my life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I mean he knew. He was the one
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  Speaker 1: who always said you're gonna be something one day, Like
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  Speaker 1: he always said that, but like he was kind of
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: always doing his own things, so he never really was
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  Speaker 1: seeing that I was how serious I was about music,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: which is why he was like, you should be a nurse.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: But really he wanted to be a nurse. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so my mom, um, where am I going with this? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but my mom was very calm, very stable individual. She
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: just was just like forward, like happy for me, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: very supportive. She never really knew this like how I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: don't think how like serious. But they always knew you
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: could sing. Yeah, they always needed to sing. And you
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: know what going back to Jacob interviewed Via recently and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: she was saying how she wishes that every man could
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: make you know, as a woman going in the studio
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: working with a man, make you feel as comfortable as
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Jacole made her feel working with him. Like she was like,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that's how it should be as a woman when you're
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: going to the studio, to feel like it's work, it's
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: genuine and it's not anything more than that. Yeah, absolutely, League,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: He's definitely good. Beautiful energy. Um so so comforting, so comfortable,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: like just amazing energy. So yeah, were you on any
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: day in the studio together when you did boy By? Huh,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: we're me and lucky to say, Yeah, we were together
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: on the studios. So that was like ad libs that
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: y'all made up on the spot, ad libs freestyles. It
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: was just so natural, like he's amazing. I feel like
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of of love. I feel like you must
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: have cut out some of those conversations because it was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: it's funny. But I'm sure y'all said a lot of
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: different things to each other, you know, to ad lib. Yeah,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and you're like what I wanted to cut out more.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I felt like there were certain things I probably should
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: have took out home that I like, but I kept him,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Like like like the erection part. I don't know if
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that I don't know if that hurts a lot of
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like grown folks out there, the Christians, what hurts it
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: depends out way. Oh my god, wait, talk about this morning?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Do you have any reservations as an R and B
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: singer signing to a rap label? Um no, I was
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: real pressed I was real excited, like it's Jay fucking cold,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying in dream Bill, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: everybody's so cool and nice, So no reservations. I was excited.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: You know that a song pressure was that about somebody
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: in particular? Pressure, No, it was really about me, honestly,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: like like feeling myself and feeling really sexy and like
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: demanding that whoever comes into my life, like you have
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to work. You know, you have to show me why
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I should give you my time. And I want to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: feel like you're attracted to me and like you respect
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: me and things like that. Did you know that something
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: be as big as it was? Hell? No, I But
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: all I cared about was how it made me feel.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And I loved it. When Jalen did the reference, I
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: was in love and I just wanted to sound like her,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and so I got in the studio and I tried
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: my best. Like the first time I heard that song,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a hit. I remember being
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: in and being like what is this who? Like I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: didn't know what it was super early on, and I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: was like, this song is a hit. That's one of
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: those songs. Like as soon as it started, like that's it, damn,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: thank you Chills. And I also saw somewhere did you
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: record like ninety songs? Yeah, eighty songs? And yeah, how
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: do you whittle that down? Like who's part of that
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: process for you? Oh? I mean it's just me and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the crew, like we just unanimously decide like what we
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: love the best, and you know, you narrow it down
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to like twenty. And then I wanted, like, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: off some like you know, Michael Jackson Thriller, you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: like or Maxwell, Like how their songs are straight, like
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: their albums are like nine songs, Yeah, right to the point,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: direct and beautiful, like that's my dream, Like that's my dream.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: So that's what I wanted. I've really just wanted ten songs,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and but you know they they pushed for twelve, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I just wanted ten. But yeah, that's basically how it
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: what happens to the other songs. So we released an
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: EP called Away Message right before and then I'm gonna
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: drop like a Christmas album. I think that has nothing
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to do with Christmas. I wish what, no there, no
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: one could ever be competition to Mariah. She's everything. I
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: want to ask you about something you said earlier. You
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: said that your dad used to always tell you you're
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: gonna be something, You're gonna be something. Does that put
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: added pressure on a daughter with no? I think that's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: probably you know what. And it sucks because we were
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: not even right now. Ill what's going on? Okay, so
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: we're not even speaking right now. But UM, I do
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: feel like when you instill certain things like that, it
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: really does go a long way. It goes a long
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: way for sure, because, um, that is the one area
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in my life where I feel like I did really good.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Not speaking is it's something small that you can call
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and it's so much shit. It's so much shit, so
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: like it, Um, I really think it's important for like
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: people to be healed when they're bringing kids into this world. Um,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: because it's just like that alone. I feel like probably
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: innately helped me in so many ways, like always grinding
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and shit like that. But UM, I could also see
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the other shit like you know that I carry and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it's and it's um, I'm sure it has to do
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: with the other ship. You know that you go through
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: trauma and ship. Let me let me tell you something
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I learned in therapy because the first time I had
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: a breakthrough in therapy was literally realizing all the daddy
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: issues I had. Yeah, So when me and my dad
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: had a conversation and I realized, damn, he was a
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: human before he was my dad, and he had his
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: own issues self distribus issues, dealing with mental health issues,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and he was just doing the best he could with
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: what he had at the time. It allowed me to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: give him a lot more grace. Yes, and I got
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to give our parents great I know, And I feel
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: like there needs to be a lot of group therapy
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: about and of course I want to continue my therapy alone,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: but I think that would probably be best because I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: know these are things I'm even carrying into my dating life,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and I just don't
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: want to have that weight on me. And I do
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: want to be more compassionate because he went through a lot,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: you know, with foster care and abandonment issues and all
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: kinds of like dark things. So I do recognize like
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: why he is the way that he is. But in
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: our generation is the generation, we're the first generation I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: think that has the luxury of healing. Yeah, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: even though my dad went to therapy two and three
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: times a week and he tried to kill himself thirty
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: years ago. He was on. He was on tend to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: talk different medications for his mental mental health, but he
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: never told me those things. Wow, we're healing out loud, right,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you know. Right, So there's no instruction manual. When it
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: comes to kids, it's always trying to figure out. Know,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Charlemagne has four kids. I have six, and it's something
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: different with each kid. You know, you just try to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: figure it out. You know some kids, you know, I'm
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: from the era where you know, my parents beat me
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and says sit in the corner right wrong. But we
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: don't do that to these kids now because they speak better.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Already said like to traumatize a child with the most
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: little things, like something you say like it's amazing. Just quote.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I literally just thought this this morning, and I do
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: this all the time with my kid. But the quote is,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: apologize to your children when you lose your cool. They
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: don't understand why you're upset, and they deserve an explanation
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: and an apology. It doesn't matter that they're little, they're
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: little humans too. Communicating with them will make it easier
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: for them to talk to you one day. Yes, yes, yes,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And you've been really open about going to therapy. When
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: did you decide that that was something you wanted to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: do this year? I was just tired of just being
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a big ball of like traumas, like just being unaware
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of like what was going on inside, and like you
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: know a lot of times I could be so triggered
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and it's just like, well why, And now I'm realizing,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: now I see, like why somebody's just pretending like I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: don't exist, or like not even looking at me, or
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like kind of having like this arrogant nature can be
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: so triggering, Like where did I see that? Like earlier
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in my for experience that like I'm starting to realize
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it never stops. It's like a cycle. Like if you
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: don't realize that you're carrying all of this way, it
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: comes out in different ways and it people be like
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: why she freaked out. It wasn't even that serious. It's
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: it was a reminder. It was a flashback, probably a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: trigger without even realizing where it came from. There's always
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: something in our childhood. Yeah, always something that happened in
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: our childhood and it brings you that happens to you
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in a doult when when it happened, you get triggered.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, that's what that's why therapy is Gregs like, oh,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm reacting, Like because of what happened here. Yes,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and it's it's been really beautiful and like eye opening
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for sure. Are you healing those those childhood wounds? Oh definitely.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I want to keep going deeper. Um, I want to
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: go deeper with it. But yeah, this this start is
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: happening for sure. And you said you see a lot
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of that in the relationships that you have. Now, like,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: what are some things and patterns Like I know you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: said you want to be more sympathetic, So what are
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: some things that you feel like, Okay, I gotta work
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: on this, damn things. I gotta work on, probably how
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I'm communicating. I'm a very anxious person, so like basically
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: instead of saying I've said this before, but instead of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: saying like nobody cares, like it's just about well, you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is how I'm feeling, like you
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: know that I'm not being heard or you know what
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I try to work on how I'm
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: communicating because I get so kind of in my own
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: anxiety and mess that I can kind of be a
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: little insensitive sometimes, So I just want to work on
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: like that. And when it comes to performing and getting
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: on stage, are you the type of person who gets
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: nervous before that or does it all go away and
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that's where you feel most comfortable? You know? Most times
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I have, Most times, I rarely getting nervous like that nervous. Um.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's just you get used to it. But
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: certain things like TV performances, I like I'm shaking, Like
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I'm so freaking nervous. It's like certain things, or like
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: going on stage with Summer Walker and when we did
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: our show and when she did her show in LA
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and I came on her set. Um, I was so
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: freaking scared, Like it's just certain things. Or Jasmine Jasmine
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like at the when we performed at the BT Awards, like, um, horrified,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to let this legend down, Like
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Jasmine Sullivan is everything. So yeah. Question when you get
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: triggered by secret rappers, do you remember the scruggle rapper
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: who traumatized you? Oh? So many, so many. Yeah, people
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: will never hear of There's so many, right, people we
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: never hear of. Um, Like they just they won't say it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Until like you like him and it's just like, oh,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm about to go to the studio. Why, Like when
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: they don't know who you are, when they want to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: date you and act like, oh my god, like hey,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: what's what do you do? You know, and act like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: they're not sure who you are. Yeah, I've I've been.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: They'll never admit it, but I've definitely been in a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: relationship where he acted like I was not who I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: am at all. That's ridiculous. Yeah, and I and I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I was trying to like feel appreciated and it was
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: it was he kept trying to say. It was just
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: it's ego, like, you know, it's not all about you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: type thing. But really, I just felt like he always
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: kind of diminished everything about me, you know, like kind
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: of pretended like this singing part didn't even exist. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: hate people like that. Don't trying to make me feel
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: small because you're dil Yeah, oh my god, Oh my god.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean that literally, you know what I mean?
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I want to know what
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? People that try to make
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: us feel small just because they haven't done what they
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: want to do in life. Yeah, I guess so but
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: now I know him. Shut up Jesus, but now I know,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: like I just my goal is just just a date
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: nice people like I just want to make sure whoever
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I'm dating is nice. And now I know like the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: red flags of like, okay, this person is mean and
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: stay away from the meaning. It's got to be hard, though,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: because you're Ari Linux now for you don't know who well,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you don't know who likes you for you or who
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: likes you because you're a superstar where you guys beside
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the you know plenty of fish like where you meaning Well,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the other day I met a guy at the Ashton
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: show that was really nice and he was he was
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: so fine, but the day get terrible. What was the date? Was?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: His dress was probably better than yours? Hi dress? How
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: did he continue? How you're sitting there? He walks over.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: He actually security first while we were sitting in a seat,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and he old, dang, I don't want nobody to but yeah,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: sitting next to but I will tell you what you
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: could stop now? Yeah, he just he reached out and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: introduced himself and like shook hands and it was really
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: cute and sweet. Was the first date the first day
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you where it was. It was
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a lovely restaurant, it really was. But he was late.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: He was late. I think it's bad during fashion now
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: he supposed to be. Now he was. He was hanging
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: out with Ja Cole and um what it No, That's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying my day. The whole team is like, stopped.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: It's just not. It's not it's not. How can be fine?
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Let me see what I know? It Maybe a referral
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: from somebody, like if you have friends and they're like
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: my boy, because I think that's good when people can
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: vet someone out and be like, he's actually really cool,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: he's got his own thing going desperate. I don't I
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: don't want it. I don't want to referral. I just
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: really want to be at the grocery store. I want
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: to be at the g to the grocery store. Yeahcer
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: oh I do. I do. Love me some Insta car,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: but I yeah, I go to Giant and safe Way.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe you should drive uber again again. Maybe just stop
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: looking for a man, just setting attention and let let
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: God work it out. I kind of stopped. I definitely stopped,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: but then I got on Riyah again, So I don't know.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I want to see what Rya is like. It's it's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: kind of cute because there's a lot of people, you know,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that are on there that are
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: like some people don't believe it's them either, Yeah, you know, yeah,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I believe it's them and it's me. So here I am.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: What about somebody from the past that you've known, like
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: John John, I know, Well, it's the least I could
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: do and shout him out. He really helped me with
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: that writing. And I don't hate him anymore. I really
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: did more. Yeah, I really care about him. I mean
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: he was so sweet when I've lived in Atlanta for
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: a while. He helped me move into my apartment. Like
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: it's just little things like that, like just a genuine man.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So I have no beef with him anymore. Like I'm
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: very forgiving, Like if you're nice to me, I'll be
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: nice to you. But if you treat me like shit,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it's like damn, Like I get it. Yeah, It's like
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: why are we being mean to each other? Like human
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and human? Like why can't we be nice? We spend
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: all this time to get other, Like why does it
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: have to end so terrible? You know? So John, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: just want to tell you, don't be corny. Okay, just
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: be cool. You might have a chance. Don't don't do
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: no Instagram live after this. He's so cool like back
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: he he hates the spotlight, so that's perfect. Yeah, but no,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: not for me. It's not we he went and got married.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Oh no, he's not married anymore. Okay, but unfortunately unfortunately, Yeah,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and he he's doing his own thing. I'm I'm looking
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: for you know, I don't know. But if you wanted
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: to you you want no, no, no, that's like so close,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: so close. He's sweet, But it's let's talk about the music.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: What was your intention with this album? The intention was
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: just me showcasing dating and its entirety from I was
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: trying to get away from dating. But she used to
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: bought us right back. I know. That's what it's all right,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's on subject for and it's where you all right,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you know what lot of people can relate to you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: That's one of the main questions people ask. How do
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you find somebody like, somebody good, somebody nice, you know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: somebody with potential to be in a real relationship. Do
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you think about marriage, like, are you dating with the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: intention to get married? That's how you find somebody, probably
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is how finding yourself really like, and so that's really
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm focused on. I got a little distracted with
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that recent date and then I was like, well, let
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: me see what else is out here. But I think
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull back into like myself and just kind
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: of like change my number and just focus on, you know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: more more beautiful books on trauma and just focus on me.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I got a great one for you momenticum my grandmother's hands.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, any naddie? Okay? We also have a Marian
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Unbothered booking here. Wow? Is that about Trauma's It does
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: seem very unbothered. Oh wow, looks so adorable. Okay right,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, I have to get the book back.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: No singers, no singers, no rapper. What about ball players
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: you said earlier? Oh, if he played basketball, he doesn't
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: mention that. Maybe a soccer player with the money at
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: is that money yet real money at soccer? Okay, I'm
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: just we have intentions, that's all. Did you finish your
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: thought on the intentions of this album? The intention of
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the album is just um, a lot of crushes, I mean,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: just making beautiful music that sounds like I'm in love
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: based on crushes of people I've never even hung out
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: with before, like mean mug and hoodie crushes on you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: fine men that I never even hung out with, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: then it gets to blocking you. Towards the end, it
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: gets the blocking you And That's where I'm at right
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: now with it, like in real life. But yeah, it's
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: just dating and the emotions, and towards the end of
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the album, I'm definitely more about like, Okay, it's time
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to protect my peace, Like no one's gonna do that
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: for me. And I find it irresponsible to be moving
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: around in life with all of these unhealed you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: traumas and trying to you know, get to know people.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: So I just, you know, I want to check some things,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: some codependency things and anxiety things that people fast about
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Black people fast if they ignore you just black. I do.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Like one time, one time, this guy was like, um,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he was like I was. I felt that there was
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: distance happening, and I was like, hey, can we talk?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like something is changing. He was like all right,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: you know what. I know. He was like I thought
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: we were good. I thought everything was good. Um, you
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: know what just need to get something to eat. I'm
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: gonna call you right back. And so I got on
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: the phone my dad and me and my dad talked
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: for like two hours and I didn't hear from the guy.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm looking at my phone like wow, like and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: so I blocked him. After that, I blocked the guy.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: After that. I we spoke one time since then and
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: quick yet, yeah, had had he eaten? I'll never know,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: be scrash anything to eat? But yeah, I'm sure for
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: some reason I'm attracting avoidant people who don't know how
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: to communicate. Well, well, you're probably attracting what you are.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: That's why what you said about, you know, healing your
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: own trauma before you get into another situation. It's so
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: important that right there, that's better than money. You know
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: how we are you know about to say, you know
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: how we always say you need a man with money,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: but did you you know, you know, but you really
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: want a man that is doing the work like you're
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: doing the every I got so many home girls to say,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I can't date a man if they're not in therapy,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: if they're not trying to heal. Wow. Yeah, yeah, And
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: that's what I would want for myself, A secure individual
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and or someone who's striving to be secure and healing
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: as well as I am healing and trying to heal.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: So yeah, do you feel like this album is healing
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: for you? Yeah? I do believe. So it's it's definitely
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: me being more firm about my standards, like at least
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like eventually, like that the eye opening, Like, Okay, there's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: a problem here, Like I keep romanticizing romance so much
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: so that I'm neglecting like my own needs and shit,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Like it's it's just time to it's time to heal,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: it's time to set my standards, and yeah, I'll be
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: okay with being single. You know, I want to ask you,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: what did you think, because you know you are one
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of the leaders of this new R and B era,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: what did you think of do these comments that R
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and B is dead. I thought it was dismissive to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: all of the amazing, incredible, legendary artists that have been
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: in the game and that are also contributing. I mean,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: from Mary J. Blige to Jasmine Sullivan to Summer Walker
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to Elm to Money Long, Van Jesse, you know, Lucky
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Lucky Day, Aaron Ray. There's so many of us t Nariel,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Brent Fiz, Jalen, Jossi, Um, and I forgive me if
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: he her Yes, yes, let's you know Jill st Sissa,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: like everyone is still killing it and dropping music, and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: it was dismissive just because I don't know Tink Yeah,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Tank exactly amazing. Yeah, I don't know why he said that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: It was not nice, but I do love all that
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he's contributed to music, So it's no shade, but it's
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: like being more nice to the people that are really
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you know, we're out here still like stopping often. Wonder
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: when you was young trying to get on, what did
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: you think the industry would be like? And what have
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you realized? You know, it really is wow? Oh what
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: did I think it was gonna be like? I don't remember.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I just knew. I just I saw Bow Wow up
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: there and Joe Joe, and I just wanted to be
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: like them, Like when I was young, I just wanted
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to be like them, or you know, just listening to
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Mariah Carey, I wanted to be like her. You know, Um,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: what did I think? I don't know what I thought,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: like maybe I thought there was gonna be like a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: lot of like devil people illuminatis that I haven't yet
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to see that. I thought there would be a lot
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: of cocaine, yet I've yet to see. I've never seen
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it before, never sacrifice or something. I don't think i've
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: ever seen okain before either. No, yeah, exactly, I've been
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: offered it, but I've never seen it. It was never
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: been offered. I don't believe or have offered it twice
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: in my life. But but they didn't like have it
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: in their hand. Wow. They were like, do you party? Yeah,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: then I have been offered it before them. Well, yes,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Yes, that's what that meant. Oh my god,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you've been offer cocaine. I haven't offered cocaine party. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: didn't take it. We need a ten second break right fast,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: because your stolence wants to fix your hair. So we'll
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: count it down ten. I can't tell you do everything
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: multi hyphen for three two one. All right, now we're back.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: We never had that before. In the middle of the interview, now,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: cocaine cocaine, But are lenics? Do you know how beautiful
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: you are? Oh? Thank you? Yes, I do? You do?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I do, I promise I do? All right, I just
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: want to make sure. Yeah, have you, thank you, you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: are beautiful, But have you realized what the industry acts is?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: What is it now? What is it? Do you when
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: you if somebody said you are right, what is the industry? Industry?
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: What does that mean? Like? What do you mean? Just
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: in general? Like people that aren't on, you know, they
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: want to know what the inside of the industry looks like. Well,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it can be very sweet, it can be cutthroat, it
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: can be depressing. Honestly, the industry, Yeah, that's everything in life.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: But it's it's really not just the industry. It's I
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: guess it's what you surround yourself with. If you're online
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: all the time, you're gonna see you're gonna experience some
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: negative things. Like with anything, too much of anything, you're
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: gonna see some negative things. And I think it depends
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: on who you are too. Some people are really in
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the mix, Like like I work with Jay Electronica. He
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: is like not around anyone ever, you know, he's like
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: in Mexico working on you know. And I think it
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: depends on what you decide your boundaries are and what
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: you and I don't see Ari Lennox like out all
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: the time doing cocaine. Thank you yeah, I don't see
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: you like out doing cocaine with people and you're not.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Some people have like friends and they're like, oh, this
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: is my bestie and one day they're best friends with
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: this person and Hank, I don't see you doing things
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like that, as definitely thought. But we just were talking
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: about it, you know, because because some people think that,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: like you said, some people think the industry is like
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: you said, you know, people doing cocaine and the devilish things,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: but it really is. All your friends are in the
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: We do appreciate you, We appreciate your music, and you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: we were kind of I was kind of hurt when
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you said you don't want to do interviews anymore. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: was like, don't let one bad, you know. Yeah, you know,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: interaction with somebody mess up somebody else, you know. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you're over that, and I'm glad you're doing
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: interviews again. Thank you. I want people to understand that
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: was just a part of my anxious nature of like
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: what I met earlier, when I was just like, nobody
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: cares I a worst case scenario and jump to like
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: like the extreme. I'm kind of black and white with
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: things especially, Yeah, and I definitely didn't mean that. I
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: was just so heartbroken by the fact that he would
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: release something that we didn't agree on him releasing, and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I just kind of felt ambushed, you know. So yeah,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I got one more question. What would a perfect music
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: career look like to you? To keep to keep you
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: in a good space mentally and emotionally? Oh wow, perfect,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I would say, Just I don't know, man, Like maybe
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know to keep being able to do soul
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: and to make a billion dollars you know, it's maybe
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: surfaced and basic, but I mean, but not everything that
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: comes with it. Probably just released the music, but not
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the fame, not the fame aim, not the heartbreak or
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: like the cloud chasing energies or just literally just I'm
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: creating music with my soul, which is you know, in
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: creating a space where people can heal and have peace
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: listening to my music. But also like I can pay
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: off my mom's bills, I can pay off my bills
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, my family, like my true like
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: circle that like I just want to make sure they're
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: good for life. Like, yeah, that would be a dream.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Oh are you on? Are you on tour to promote
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that project? Eventually? I will be um in January, I believe,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: maybe so shout out to Rob Gibbs and we'll see.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Let's get into a record off the album what you
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: want to hear? Oh? I guess boy bye because that's
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: the real sexy record. Lucky Day is awesome. I can't
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: wait to see you on TV and movies too. I
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: see that in your future. That's so sweet. Yeah, we
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: need to get with Sean DERs and do this mini
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: series how to get a We're rapping, Oh my god,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: struggle rapping, brilliant thriller. Yes well, Ari Alenics, thank you
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: for joining us. It wasn't that bad. It was beautiful energy. Wow.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: And we prayed before we came. You talk to much?
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about? Why do you talk? Yes? Why
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: do you talk so much? Because I love you? Pa. No,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: not the day you talk too much? You guys, this
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: is about about so we prayed together as a family.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? God? We said an intention
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: before the interview. That's what we did. Radio felt that
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: they don't ever date a radio personality. That's what almoself want. Okay, almost,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I won't really, that's all. No more, you can't do that.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Let's Payola. Yea, I don't want that playing, are you
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: so much? Two hundred spent a Lynxister Breakfast Club. Good morning,