Latest / Reality with The King / Sai-YONARA, FILES! | RHONY Recap with Dustin Ross
Transcript
- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
- 0:14Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Rain drops. I know.
- 0:42Speaker 1: I'm, you know, I'm so excited because Dustin Ross, round of.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Applause, is joining us for the roadie recap. And we
- 0:51Speaker 2: are so happy to have him here. I don't know
- 0:53Speaker 2: what I'm doing. I thought I had to hit record.
- 0:56Speaker 2: It's recording. Thanks to Artificial Jamie. Not intelligent. Okay.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Artificial Jamie is my intelligent assistant.
- 1:05Speaker 3: I'm going to start calling him AJ. That's my new nickname.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Well, we have to because apparently Stacey Rush unfollowed AJ
- 1:13Speaker 1: on social media and vice versa.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Wow. I wonder what he did. Look, I wonder what
- 1:18Speaker 3: he did. Type shit. Hello. Look, I don't know. He
- 1:26Speaker 3: was always kind anytime he corresponded with me online. But
- 1:30Speaker 3: it was his fault because Stacey and I followed him too.
- 1:32Speaker 3: So that's that.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Because I haven't corroborated this rage, Rob, I was, you know,
- 1:40Speaker 1: perusing now X.
- 1:43Speaker 2: One X, not three.
- 1:44Speaker 1: And I saw a comment. So I haven't done my research,
- 1:49Speaker 1: but he said AJ.
- 1:51Speaker 2: I thought of him. But like Dustin said, AJ is
- 1:53Speaker 2: so nice. He's a sweetheart.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Yeah, he is.
- 1:56Speaker 2: Like Dustin said, Stacey didn't do it.
- 1:58Speaker 3: And that's just that. Yeah. And he used to have
- 2:01Speaker 3: her back, too, so he'll understand. Yeah.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Well, look, I need for you to have my back
- 2:13Speaker 1: the way Carol's having the back of the email.
- 2:21Speaker 2: You know what?
- 2:22Speaker 1: Let's throw everything out the window. So, Dustin, I am
- 2:24Speaker 1: so happy, and I do mean this. As you all know, Raindrops,
- 2:28Speaker 1: Dustin is from, well, he lives in New York City.
- 2:31Speaker 2: He's from Michigan.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely.
- 2:33Speaker 2: But he lives in New York City, and.
- 2:36Speaker 1: He is somebody that obviously understands the city, but also
- 2:41Speaker 1: understands this type of show. So, we are just going
- 2:45Speaker 1: to go right into it. And then Raindrops, it's okay.
- 2:49Speaker 1: We're going to address other things too, but the Carol
- 2:53Speaker 1: Raswell of it all as it relates to being in
- 2:56Speaker 1: the Epstein files. Dustin, when she brought it up herself,
- 3:02Speaker 1: my producer brain went off.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Yes.
- 3:06Speaker 1: And I said to self, Carlos King I, Carol is
- 3:13Speaker 1: a vet who's been off the show for a few years.
- 3:18Speaker 1: She brought this up herself because in her mind, she thought,
- 3:23Speaker 1: I'll bring it up so that y'all won't try to
- 3:27Speaker 1: embarrass me with it.
- 3:29Speaker 2: I'll address it.
- 3:30Speaker 1: But what she didn't know, that side, the private eye
- 3:35Speaker 1: who was a sleeper.
- 3:38Speaker 2: No, no shade. She's kind of been asleep this season.
- 3:42Speaker 3: Yeah. Divorce and all. Divorce and all. Yes.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Auntie and all.
- 3:47Speaker 1: $ 25, 000 a month.
- 3:51Speaker 3: And all.
- 3:52Speaker 2: And all.
- 3:54Speaker 3: Sneering and all. She's always doing that. When Psy gets
- 3:58Speaker 3: mad at them, she always.
- 4:02Speaker 3: Every time. We love her for it. But yeah, that's
- 4:04Speaker 3: what she does.
- 4:05Speaker 2: You know, and I love Psy. However, she hasn't been activated.
- 4:11Speaker 1: I did not know that the emails of the FC
- 4:15Speaker 1: files was going to activate her. How do you think
- 4:19Speaker 1: Carol responded to this and size investigative journalist skills?
- 4:26Speaker 3: She responded to it the wrong way, but in a
- 4:28Speaker 3: way that is completely relatable and understandable. Right. Because think
- 4:33Speaker 3: about it when you're friends with somebody like, and not
- 4:35Speaker 3: that close, but you're actually friends or whatever, like cool.
- 4:39Speaker 3: you might not know the totality of who they are.
- 4:41Speaker 3: So she was like, look, we was cool like that,
- 4:44Speaker 3: but if you present her with some evidence that they
- 4:47Speaker 3: were cool, like if you say, hey, I seen those
- 4:48Speaker 3: pictures of y'all, she'll say, well, yeah, we did that.
- 4:51Speaker 3: Or if you say, hey, I seen them text messages, well, yeah,
- 4:53Speaker 3: we did text about that. Well, hey, I seen that email. Yeah,
- 4:56Speaker 3: we did email about that, but she ain't gonna volunteer
- 4:58Speaker 3: none of that. But I still think she went about
- 5:01Speaker 3: it the wrong way. I don't blame Psy, okay? Because
- 5:04Speaker 3: that Epstein Files shit, that's some shit you don't want
- 5:06Speaker 3: to be nowhere near, nothing attached to. You don't want
- 5:09Speaker 3: to be attached to it in no way. You want
- 5:11Speaker 3: to clear it the fuck up. It's also a hell
- 5:14Speaker 3: of an ace in your back pocket if one of
- 5:17Speaker 3: your castmates on this show was in the motherfucking Epstein file.
- 5:21Speaker 3: I don't blame Sy. Clear it up on site and
- 5:25Speaker 3: hold her to task as a castmate, but also I
- 5:28Speaker 3: don't know. I like Carol Razuel. I like her and
- 5:33Speaker 3: I enjoyed her this season on the show, but I
- 5:36Speaker 3: don't jig with the way that she really responded to that.
- 5:40Speaker 3: I don't. Because to me, your response, the key word, Epstein, right?
- 5:46Speaker 3: So your response should be, that shit was horrible. May
- 5:50Speaker 3: everybody involved get what the fuck they deserve. I ain't
- 5:52Speaker 3: got nothing to do with that. But if she did,
- 5:54Speaker 3: fuck her too. It's a way you respond to it,
- 5:57Speaker 3: not trying to be defensive. That's what I think sort
- 6:02Speaker 3: of encouraged Psy to start really shoving her stiletto in
- 6:05Speaker 3: her ass the way she did because she was being
- 6:08Speaker 3: defensive and being weird. The minute she asked her about it,
- 6:16Speaker 3: she went to doing all of that. And you know
- 6:18Speaker 3: what I'm saying? And it just was a lot. To me,
- 6:21Speaker 3: it was the wrong response. That's the kind of shit
- 6:23Speaker 3: you be crystal clear. Carlos, you crazy. But that's the guy,
- 6:28Speaker 3: you know, that's how Carol be doing in them sessions.
- 6:38Speaker 3: You know how she be doing. But that's some shit.
- 6:41Speaker 3: You clear that shit the fuck up immediately. I am
- 6:44Speaker 3: not in it. And fuck everybody who is. That's how
- 6:47Speaker 3: your response is. And I don't think Carol's response reflected that.
- 6:51Speaker 3: So I kind of get it. And also, while we
- 6:54Speaker 3: at that scene out on the terrace, what the fuck
- 6:59Speaker 3: was Daisy hopping in the ropes for? You know what
- 7:02Speaker 3: I'm saying? Why was Daisy jumping in them ropes? Daisy,
- 7:05Speaker 3: you don't need to be, again, the Epstein Files. When
- 7:08Speaker 3: that shit is brought up, you distance yourself, even if
- 7:11Speaker 3: that means not jumping in an argument that don't have
- 7:14Speaker 3: shit to do with you. Why are you jumping in?
- 7:16Speaker 3: Why are you, Daisy, picking this argument to jump in
- 7:20Speaker 3: and be a part of? Sort of questioning why Cy
- 7:24Speaker 3: was questioning her about the Epstein Files. It's the fucking
- 7:28Speaker 3: Epstein files. So the minute it's mentioned, the minute it's questioned,
- 7:33Speaker 3: you should side with people interrogating something regarding the Epstein files.
- 7:38Speaker 3: You should side with rhetoric and language that indicates how
- 7:45Speaker 3: horrible and reprehensible the actions were that people displayed in
- 7:50Speaker 3: the motherfucking Epstein files. You should distance yourself from that.
- 7:54Speaker 3: There's nothing to defend in any way, shape, or form,
- 7:57Speaker 3: even if it means jumping in the argument that you
- 8:00Speaker 3: ain't got shit to do with in the first place.
- 8:01Speaker 3: So you shouldn't even have been in that. I started
- 8:03Speaker 3: questioning Daisy. A lot of her behavior with her Stephanie
- 8:08Speaker 3: from Full House looking ass. A lot of her behavior
- 8:11Speaker 3: has been shit.
- 8:13Speaker 4: In the words of Buckmaster Flags because this is New
- 8:19Speaker 4: York City.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Hold up.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Hold the fuck up. I'm tired of her, man. I
- 8:25Speaker 3: don't like her attitude. Her Stephanie from Full House looking ass.
- 8:29Speaker 3: That's what she looks like.
- 8:30Speaker 2: I can't have you continue. You think.
- 8:37Speaker 1: You think that Daisy from the Real Housewives of New
- 8:45Speaker 1: York City, the makeup artist of Martha Stewart, you think
- 8:49Speaker 1: she looks like Stephanie from Full House?
- 8:53Speaker 3: Sure do. Okay. Okay.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Ray Josh, get on Patreon, please.
- 9:01Speaker 3: That's right.
- 9:01Speaker 2: So that you can see what I'm about to do.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Go ahead, because I need to.
- 9:05Speaker 3: We need a side-by-side. Yes, that's right. I wish I
- 9:09Speaker 3: knew the actress's name. I can't remember, but she looks
- 9:12Speaker 3: like that actress. in the costume of Stephanie from Motherfucking
- 9:18Speaker 3: Full House. That's what she looked like.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Jodie Sweden, okay.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Jodie Sweden, that's her name. Who also, she looks like
- 9:24Speaker 3: a Jodie. Think about the way Jodie Foster's face features out.
- 9:27Speaker 3: There's a Jodie look that Jodie wouldn't have. I love it.
- 9:31Speaker 3: But yes, that's what she looked like. If she get
- 9:33Speaker 3: on my nerves, always jumping and shit, ain't got nothing
- 9:35Speaker 3: to do with her and having an attitude. And I'm just,
- 9:39Speaker 3: I'm seeing... a profile be built. And this is why,
- 9:44Speaker 3: even though I liked certain things about Daisy in the
- 9:47Speaker 3: first couple of episodes, something told me, Dustin, back off
- 9:50Speaker 3: for a second and just let the beat build. You
- 9:53Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? Yeah. Look at Daisy. We got
- 10:00Speaker 3: to see her as Stephanie in the house back in
- 10:03Speaker 3: the day. That's what she looked like. Sitting there with
- 10:06Speaker 3: her hair pulled back and her chin out and shit.
- 10:09Speaker 3: Every time they get to calling her ass to the
- 10:11Speaker 3: carpet about something, this is how Daisy be sitting. Every
- 10:17Speaker 3: single time they start getting their ass and I'm tired
- 10:19Speaker 3: of it. She's always hopping in shit. She jumped to
- 10:23Speaker 3: Carol's defense prematurely in the Epstein Files conversation. She showed
- 10:27Speaker 3: her ass about, first of all, she's been talking shit
- 10:30Speaker 3: with Aaron about Erica's house who don't bother nobody, may
- 10:34Speaker 3: I add. And she was being nasty and shitting on
- 10:38Speaker 3: Erica's house. But then you crying because they said you
- 10:41Speaker 3: have popcorn ceilings, quote unquote. Daisy's math ain't math into me.
- 10:46Speaker 3: And I know you see it too, Carlos. And while
- 10:48Speaker 3: I appreciate her, now I'm going to put your producer
- 10:50Speaker 3: hat on, right? Because although Daisy's personality and character traits
- 10:55Speaker 3: are turning me off, they're turning on the story of
- 10:59Speaker 3: the show, the heat of the show, the drama of
- 11:01Speaker 3: the show. So you know me, I can be objective
- 11:03Speaker 3: and appreciate a person that's doing their job. She's doing
- 11:06Speaker 3: her job as a housewife, okay? No, she is. She is.
- 11:10Speaker 3: But now that we've gotten that shit out of the way,
- 11:12Speaker 3: she's getting on my motherfucking nerves. And she contradicts herself.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Talking about Psy was, what did she say, Psy? Too harsh?
- 11:21Speaker 3: What did she say, Carlos?
- 11:23Speaker 2: Well, the thing is this. The thing is this. You know, obviously,
- 11:29Speaker 2: there appear to be levels of microaggressions.
- 11:33Speaker 1: And Daisy was trying to get Psy to lower her tone, right?
- 11:40Speaker 2: So she was saying, like, lower your tone, right?
- 11:44Speaker 1: Um she did feel like sigh the word aggressive was
- 11:49Speaker 1: used in this episode as it relates to sigh well.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Here's the thing daisy just was arguing with um jessel
- 11:57Speaker 3: erica and aaron and them throwing herself in the middle
- 11:59Speaker 3: of that again and she said um she jumped up
- 12:03Speaker 3: in the middle of that like hold on hold on
- 12:05Speaker 3: yelling over everybody talking about because i don't fuck around
- 12:08Speaker 3: i was like Now that, to me, was way more aggressive,
- 12:13Speaker 3: quote unquote, than anything Psy did.
- 12:16Speaker 2: And I want to quote, she did say, you're coming
- 12:18Speaker 2: across too strong.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Too strong. That's what it was. Too strong. Coming across
- 12:22Speaker 3: strong and shit in relation to a conversation that had
- 12:25Speaker 3: nothing to do with her. You know, the digs that
- 12:28Speaker 3: she made, which I kind of picked up on at the,
- 12:31Speaker 3: what is the Cedar? At the Cedar dinner that they had.
- 12:35Speaker 3: The dig she was taking that side. I picked up
- 12:37Speaker 3: on all of that. But now it's all coming together
- 12:39Speaker 3: to create a profile for her. Right. Those actions, the microaggressions,
- 12:44Speaker 3: the pseudo defense of the Epstein of something related to
- 12:48Speaker 3: the Epstein files, because I want to be clear, she
- 12:50Speaker 3: wasn't defending by any means the shit in there. But
- 12:53Speaker 3: they was talking about the Epstein files, which are full
- 12:55Speaker 3: of the shit in there. So you're defending anything related
- 12:58Speaker 3: to it is suspect to me and looks weird. Just
- 13:03Speaker 3: I don't know about Daisy. I think she might be
- 13:05Speaker 3: a one trick pony. We don't need to talk to
- 13:07Speaker 3: Martha on the phone no more. Unless Martha Stewart is
- 13:10Speaker 3: going to be a friend of this show. We don't,
- 13:12Speaker 3: we're over it. We don't give a fuck that you
- 13:15Speaker 3: contour Martha Stewart's face and apply an eyelash. We don't
- 13:19Speaker 3: give a fuck about none of that. Who else makeup
- 13:22Speaker 3: you do? You know what I'm saying? Everybody, I'll have
- 13:24Speaker 3: several friends who are professionals in the beauty industry. Carlos,
- 13:28Speaker 3: you know, several of them yourself. These people are working,
- 13:31Speaker 3: loving their craft and, and enjoying, um, you know, collaborating
- 13:36Speaker 3: with A-list celebrities and having these once-in-a-lifetime experiences all the time.
- 13:41Speaker 3: So why is it still a big deal to you, Daisy?
- 13:43Speaker 3: You got one client? I just, I don't know, Carlos.
- 13:46Speaker 3: I'm just... Well, it was.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Playing the rent control department. Now, the thing is this.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Which, hold on, let's go there, because if we're going
- 13:54Speaker 3: to talk about it, we're going to talk about it, right?
- 13:57Speaker 3: Her crying about a real New Yorker, okay, popcorn stands
- 14:00Speaker 3: and all, you tell everybody to kiss your motherfucking ass
- 14:03Speaker 3: because your shit is rent controlled. And that's something that
- 14:05Speaker 3: they cannot replicate. Okay. And they hate it every month
- 14:09Speaker 3: when they write that, when they send that payment in.
- 14:12Speaker 3: So that's how you stand on that. You know, you're
- 14:14Speaker 3: not shaking and rattled that a bunch of women you
- 14:16Speaker 3: just fucking met are calling your house. Even if you
- 14:19Speaker 3: knew Sia and cool like that, obviously. So these women
- 14:22Speaker 3: who you're not that close to are talking about your ceiling.
- 14:25Speaker 3: It is a popcorn ceiling. That is what those types
- 14:27Speaker 3: of ceiling, the paint plaster shit on those ceilings that's
- 14:31Speaker 3: designed like that. That's what that's called. It's not necessarily
- 14:34Speaker 3: a slight, you know what I'm saying? It is something
- 14:37Speaker 3: that a lot of older, you know, units have. So what?
- 14:41Speaker 3: Everything in New York is old as fuck. It's about
- 14:43Speaker 3: it being renovated and you keeping it nice. Stand on it.
- 14:48Speaker 3: But she is a person who is.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Vain. She's a person who cares about what everybody else
- 14:56Speaker 3: thinks about her. She's concerned about her image and other
- 14:59Speaker 3: people how she's perceived, which is exactly why her go-to
- 15:02Speaker 3: in that argument with Psy was, go ahead and nobody's
- 15:04Speaker 3: going to like you because you care, Daisy, whether or
- 15:07Speaker 3: not people like you or not, which is why your
- 15:10Speaker 3: ass was chafed when they said that the fucking ceiling
- 15:14Speaker 3: had popcorn on it. And you tried to laugh it
- 15:16Speaker 3: off in the moment or blow it off, but she
- 15:19Speaker 3: started basically crying. She was really fucked up about that
- 15:22Speaker 3: popcorn ceiling. What is that indicative of to you, Carlos?
- 15:26Speaker 2: So the thing is this when it comes to Daisy.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Like you, I like Daisy. She's great for the show.
- 15:31Speaker 1: Daisy, in the words of the millennials, she's clicking down badly, right?
- 15:38Speaker 3: Shout out Tiffany Pollard. You're clicking, but you're clicking down.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 15:48Speaker 1: She started off as my favorite. Listen, you and I
- 15:52Speaker 1: talked about this. My favorite is Erin.
- 15:55Speaker 2: I get it.
- 15:55Speaker 3: I get it. It's her show.
- 15:57Speaker 2: Okay, it's Erin's show. There's no reboot without Erin.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Erin is Giselle. Jessel is Karen. Does that put it
- 16:04Speaker 3: in the frame for you? There you go.
- 16:07Speaker 2: If only I could spend the rest of my life
- 16:10Speaker 2: with you recapping... I mean.
- 16:12Speaker 1: You're the only one I feel like gets it. Your
- 16:16Speaker 1: bias only shows with Cyndia Bailey and Stacey Rush.
- 16:20Speaker 3: And Ebony K. Williams.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Yep.
- 16:24Speaker 3: She a housewife, so we got to include her. But yeah,
- 16:27Speaker 3: that's it. I don't give a fuck when it comes
- 16:31Speaker 3: to them, but everybody else, I'm going to tell the truth.
- 16:33Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
- 16:35Speaker 2: Nothing like, I don't care about that. No, the thing
- 16:38Speaker 2: is this. You're the only one who gets it. Thank
- 16:41Speaker 2: you so much. Aaron is Giselle. Jessel is Karen. I mean,
- 16:48Speaker 2: round of applause.
- 16:49Speaker 3: That's it. That puts it in terms people can grasp
- 16:52Speaker 3: and understand. You know what I'm saying? Then you watch
- 16:55Speaker 3: the show differently when you look at it through that framework, right?
- 16:58Speaker 3: You watch it differently. We also have the dark horse
- 17:01Speaker 3: of Erica. I don't want to get too far off
- 17:04Speaker 3: your script, but I think I just feel like what
- 17:07Speaker 3: Erica represents to this show is very sustainable. I feel
- 17:11Speaker 3: like she can have a lengthy run as a housewife.
- 17:15Speaker 3: She got the money. So think Heather Dubrow. You always
- 17:18Speaker 3: can come back because your life is always going to
- 17:20Speaker 3: be interesting because you're rich beyond anyone's imagination. She looks
- 17:24Speaker 3: youthful and beautiful, right?
- 17:27Speaker 2: She's so damn beautiful.
- 17:29Speaker 3: Dare I say, she stole the show and the cast photo.
- 17:31Speaker 3: I've been watching her since that cast photo. I've been
- 17:34Speaker 3: watching her since the cast photo when I read her bio.
- 17:37Speaker 3: I've been I've been watching her because I feel like
- 17:39Speaker 3: she's really got that. I don't even know how to
- 17:41Speaker 3: articulate it. But there's a an element that that is
- 17:46Speaker 3: is crucial to housewives having long careers in a housewives universe.
- 17:51Speaker 3: I feel like Erica's got it and I can see
- 17:53Speaker 3: it early on. So that's it. But it's definitely Aaron
- 17:56Speaker 3: Shaw and Jessel is Karen. Giselle and Karen, Esalen, Jared,
- 18:00Speaker 3: Aaron and Jessel. That's what it is.
- 18:03Speaker 2: It's everything you're saying.
- 18:04Speaker 1: First of all, I will say this, and I want
- 18:06Speaker 1: to be able to show the raindrops, okay, what you're
- 18:10Speaker 1: talking about in terms of.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Stephanie from Full House.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Okay. So, here it is.
- 18:22Speaker 3: Like... Yeah.
- 18:25Speaker 2: He's sickening.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Yeah. To put it in... Yes.
- 18:29Speaker 2: Looking woman. Like, look at how she looks.
- 18:33Speaker 1: I wish I could zoom in and make this larger,
- 18:35Speaker 1: but whatever. Like, she looks good. She looks amazing. She's
- 18:40Speaker 1: a baddie.
- 18:41Speaker 3: She skews young. You know what I'm saying? She makes
- 18:44Speaker 3: the show youthful in a way that's necessary. I think, again,
- 18:48Speaker 3: speaking to her longevity, potential longevity on the show. Like,
- 18:52Speaker 3: I don't know. I just, I see the value in Erica.
- 18:55Speaker 3: I see exactly why they casted her.
- 18:59Speaker 1: And the thing you said, too, that is so true is,
- 19:02Speaker 1: She has sustainability.
- 19:06Speaker 3: Brody. Brody agrees with us. Brody said, I watched that
- 19:09Speaker 3: shit too. That's right.
- 19:13Speaker 2: No, I know. Brody, stop.
- 19:15Speaker 1: So the thing that I do like about her is
- 19:17Speaker 1: the fact that she also is somebody that has the
- 19:22Speaker 1: personality where she.
- 19:24Speaker 2: Doesn't have to do the most.
- 19:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Like she doesn't have to do the most. And she
- 19:29Speaker 2: allows herself to be present.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Like, even towards the end, which we'll get to that
- 19:33Speaker 1: in a second, how she even was with Aaron.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Like, hey, are you okay?
- 19:38Speaker 3: I want to make sure you're good.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Like, she has that ability, like a Cynthia Bailey.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Yes.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Right?
- 19:45Speaker 1: Like, to be a gorgeous person on the outside, but
- 19:49Speaker 1: also beautiful on the inside when it comes to how
- 19:52Speaker 1: you're able to just be there for people. So I
- 19:55Speaker 1: look at Erica, who I did hear in the reality
- 19:58Speaker 1: streets that allegedly, allegedly, that they decided to make her
- 20:05Speaker 1: a housewife at the end.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Oh, really? Okay. That would make sense. That would make sense.
- 20:10Speaker 3: I can get it.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:12Speaker 1: I did hear that they were sort of like, because
- 20:15Speaker 1: like you echoed, she's not the most like.
- 20:18Speaker 3: You know. In your face with it.
- 20:21Speaker 2: In your face. She's not in your face, but the camera.
- 20:24Speaker 3: She's subtle. She's subtle. Yes.
- 20:27Speaker 1: And that cast needs a subtle person because once Cy
- 20:32Speaker 1: got into Carol's butt, so getting back to that.
- 20:34Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Okay.
- 20:35Speaker 3: Okay.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Carol. Carol is cool. She's a
- 20:41Speaker 1: cool New York chick, right?
- 20:45Speaker 3: For real, for real.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Like, for real, for real. She's cool, right?
- 20:49Speaker 1: The thing is, I agree with you. I don't think, clearly,
- 20:55Speaker 1: she had anything to do with Epstein.
- 20:57Speaker 3: No.
- 20:58Speaker 1: I don't think she was privy to it. I don't
- 21:01Speaker 1: think she knows about it. But we have to take
- 21:03Speaker 1: a step back into being in Carol's world. She is
- 21:06Speaker 1: a part of the upper elite society in New York City.
- 21:11Speaker 2: She's embarrassed by it.
- 21:13Speaker 1: She's embarrassed by her association, whether it's big, middle school,
- 21:18Speaker 1: or medium. She's embarrassed by the thought of it. And
- 21:21Speaker 1: she has every right to have that embarrassment. The problem
- 21:24Speaker 1: with Carol was she was unable to truly figure out
- 21:29Speaker 1: how to tell her.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Truth without it coming across like you're hiding something. Exactly.
- 21:39Speaker 1: I don't think she was hiding anything. I think a
- 21:42Speaker 1: lot of it had to do with the fact that
- 21:45Speaker 1: she was embarrassed and she just doesn't want to talk
- 21:50Speaker 1: about it. But the one thing I would have done
- 21:52Speaker 1: in that situation, I would have said, hey, Psy, look,
- 21:58Speaker 1: what he did was abhorrent, disgusting, and foul.
- 22:03Speaker 3: Okay?
- 22:04Speaker 2: I don't hang out with people like that.
- 22:06Speaker 1: I would like for you to know if I knew
- 22:09Speaker 1: then what I know now.
- 22:11Speaker 2: I mean, if I know... Yeah, if I knew.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 22:15Speaker 1: There's no question I would have not had any associations.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Did we take photos? Listen, we've all have been in
- 22:24Speaker 1: photographs with people on some children. We all have friends
- 22:29Speaker 1: who have friends who have friends and we all just
- 22:31Speaker 1: be like, hey, so... The only way it was a
- 22:35Speaker 1: smoking gun for Carol is if Carol on those emails
- 22:40Speaker 1: was orchestrating everything else.
- 22:42Speaker 2: And I think she was.
- 22:45Speaker 1: She wasn't smart enough with her strength because she's a journalist,
- 22:48Speaker 1: but she wasn't smart enough.
- 22:49Speaker 2: To articulate that. And I think... And I'm going to
- 22:52Speaker 2: call it out because... Listen, guys, it's obvious.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Because Psy is a woman of color, I think Carol
- 22:59Speaker 1: was just intimidated and didn't know... I think Carol was
- 23:03Speaker 1: so caught off guard by Psy.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Coming at her with hard questions.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:11Speaker 2: That she didn't know how to take this black girl.
- 23:14Speaker 5: No.
- 23:15Speaker 2: And... That's obvious.
- 23:17Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Carol is anything.
- 23:19Speaker 2: I think I just.
- 23:21Speaker 1: No one can convince me that Carol is friends with.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Anyone like Psy.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Psy is Black, and I believe she's Puerto Rican, if
- 23:29Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. I know she's Latina as well, but
- 23:33Speaker 1: I just don't think... I think Carol doesn't know how
- 23:36Speaker 1: to have conversations like that, and that's why she called
- 23:41Speaker 1: her having a colorful past, which we'll get to later,
- 23:44Speaker 1: because what the fuck was that?
- 23:45Speaker 3: I also... I'm trying not to I'm trying not to
- 23:51Speaker 3: do that with this show. Okay. We just, we just,
- 23:54Speaker 3: I'm trying, but you can't help it when it's so blatant, like,
- 24:01Speaker 3: and just evident. It's so evident. Right. Um, I don't
- 24:05Speaker 3: think that Carol anticipated anyone interrogating her in the way
- 24:12Speaker 3: that Psy did in response to her sharing with them,
- 24:17Speaker 3: that she was horrified by her name being attached to
- 24:21Speaker 3: the Epstein files when you Google search her name, right?
- 24:24Speaker 3: I think she expected people to kind of have a
- 24:26Speaker 3: listening ear and not really ask a lot of questions
- 24:29Speaker 3: and maybe talk shit behind her back, but then she
- 24:32Speaker 3: would have an opportunity to prepare a response and respond
- 24:35Speaker 3: in her time. I don't think she was anticipating a real-time,
- 24:39Speaker 3: in-the-moment interrogation like she got from Psy. I just think
- 24:43Speaker 3: it caught her off guard. I also think, because two
- 24:46Speaker 3: things can be true, right? Even though I think she,
- 24:50Speaker 3: I absolutely do not believe that she was attached to
- 24:54Speaker 3: any of the sex crimes or the crimes in general
- 24:57Speaker 3: presented in the Epstein files. I also think that her
- 25:01Speaker 3: response was strategic and measured. And I think that she
- 25:04Speaker 3: is a woman who was smart enough, as you said,
- 25:07Speaker 3: she's a former journalist, smart enough and astute enough to
- 25:11Speaker 3: understand that appearing aloof to appearing shocked and aloof, there's
- 25:17Speaker 3: a currency in that when it comes to how people
- 25:20Speaker 3: perceive you and your relationship to a scandal. So her
- 25:23Speaker 3: being like, especially as a white woman, we'll call it
- 25:25Speaker 3: what it is, right? So her being like, oh, oh,
- 25:28Speaker 3: do you think that? Are you saying that? You know,
- 25:33Speaker 3: she started asking her those questions and stuff that there's
- 25:36Speaker 3: a part of me that believes she was very well
- 25:39Speaker 3: aware of what she was doing.
- 25:41Speaker 2: Yes, and.
- 25:43Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, you're trying to act shocked.
- 25:46Speaker 3: You're leaning into the shock value in your... Exactly.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Are you suggesting that... Exactly.
- 25:55Speaker 1: As a way of letting the world know you didn't.
- 25:58Speaker 1: And I think when it came to Daisy, Daisy is... Psy,
- 26:04Speaker 1: one thing about me, I'm going to be fair. Now,
- 26:06Speaker 1: I've been on your behind, rightfully so, like I have
- 26:10Speaker 1: the other girls.
- 26:12Speaker 2: Daisy's not your friend.
- 26:14Speaker 3: No.
- 26:15Speaker 1: See, Daisy, but this is the one thing I'm trying
- 26:18Speaker 1: to understand, and I appreciate the editors for flashbacking all
- 26:21Speaker 1: the moments where Daisy was coming for a side that
- 26:25Speaker 1: I always thought was unwarranted.
- 26:26Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Again, not to make this about that, but it is
- 26:33Speaker 2: what happens.
- 26:33Speaker 3: It is what it is.
- 26:35Speaker 1: When you are a part of a cast, where there
- 26:39Speaker 1: is only one woman of color, a part of the cast.
- 26:42Speaker 2: And then, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Jaisal is a woman
- 26:44Speaker 2: of color, too, so I take that back. A Black woman. Okay.
- 26:49Speaker 3: So... And so is Pavit. Ha ha ha!
- 26:54Speaker 2: Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha!
- 26:59Speaker 3: Oh, so Erin said, that's what I heard from Jenna,
- 27:02Speaker 3: who said that she told her friend that gossip. Anyway,
- 27:06Speaker 3: go ahead, Carla.
- 27:07Speaker 2: Pump it, Equinox. I'll see y'all tomorrow. So the thing
- 27:09Speaker 2: is this.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Pump it, hottie.
- 27:14Speaker 2: No, look, maybe not. Because Equinox is listening.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Okay, fine.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Here's the deal.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I felt like, and I hate to say this, and
- 27:25Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, but I got to be honest.
- 27:27Speaker 2: I felt that Daisy... Who's white past... What is Daisy?
- 27:32Speaker 3: A flower. That's what she is. That's what she is.
- 27:40Speaker 2: Is Daisy Latina?
- 27:42Speaker 3: I'm not sure. It's something.
- 27:43Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 27:44Speaker 3: Because her name is like Daisy De La Rosa or
- 27:47Speaker 3: Daisy something. What's her last name?
- 27:48Speaker 2: Nicole Daisy Toy. Let me see if I can find
- 27:54Speaker 2: her race. My point is this. There is something... Okay,
- 28:01Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Dustin. She's white.
- 28:03Speaker 3: Okay, fine.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Daisy being... She's a white woman.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Daisy looks at Psy like, I'm above you and I'm
- 28:14Speaker 1: going to sun you. And I'm going to buy for
- 28:16Speaker 1: a second that she was mad that Psy did not
- 28:18Speaker 1: defend her for popcorn ceilings.
- 28:22Speaker 2: I don't buy that. I think when she.
- 28:26Speaker 1: In my opinion, how Daisy comes across to me in
- 28:30Speaker 1: these past few episodes. She comes across as a woman
- 28:34Speaker 1: who is friends with a black girl.
- 28:36Speaker 2: One-on-one, bitch, we good. Baby, all day long, bitch, all day.
- 28:42Speaker 1: But the moment her black girl is around the rest
- 28:45Speaker 1: of the white women, I think Daisy, yes, baby. Because
- 28:52Speaker 1: when she said, chill out, you're coming out too strong.
- 28:56Speaker 1: And guys, I'm going to be honest, I, too, felt
- 29:00Speaker 1: that Psy.
- 29:02Speaker 3: Was doing a lot.
- 29:04Speaker 2: I did feel that.
- 29:05Speaker 1: However, and I'm only basing this off of what Daisy said,
- 29:10Speaker 1: if you're my girl since we were in our 20s,
- 29:12Speaker 1: working at Scores, and I want you to have my
- 29:18Speaker 1: back for popcorn ceilings, then I'm going to have your
- 29:22Speaker 1: back when it comes to questioning.
- 29:24Speaker 2: I'm going to let you cook. I'm new here. You
- 29:28Speaker 2: are three seasons in. You recommended me. I'm going to
- 29:32Speaker 2: let you... In the words of Kenya Moore, who.
- 29:37Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who she told Dustin. off
- 29:40Speaker 1: the record, Kenya Moore had a scene and somebody, a
- 29:43Speaker 1: cast member, I'll text you, a cast member told her
- 29:47Speaker 1: to stop.
- 29:49Speaker 2: And she called me pissed and was.
- 29:50Speaker 5: Like, I wanted to get my rocks off. I wanted
- 29:55Speaker 5: to get my rocks off, and she deterred me. She
- 29:58Speaker 5: changed the subject, and I could not do my job.
- 30:02Speaker 5: My point is, let's side do her job.
- 30:05Speaker 2: Yeah. You're new here. You're new.
- 30:08Speaker 1: So to say that and interrupt her, and then, I
- 30:13Speaker 1: don't know, me and Dustin are like this. I'm never
- 30:15Speaker 1: going to allow anybody to talk about Dustin in front
- 30:18Speaker 1: of me, and I'm damn sure I like Dustin's background.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Going to talk about him. So when she went and
- 30:23Speaker 2: doubled down behind Sy's back, yeah, she was aggressive.
- 30:27Speaker 3: But that lets you know that her and Sy was
- 30:29Speaker 3: never friends like that. They was cool at their job
- 30:31Speaker 3: years ago. And then when they run into each other,
- 30:33Speaker 3: they say hi. Number two, she was just, she always
- 30:37Speaker 3: thought it should have been her. This is how it
- 30:39Speaker 3: reads to me. I could have this all wrong, but
- 30:42Speaker 3: it reads to me like she always thought it should
- 30:45Speaker 3: have been her and she played nice enough with Sy
- 30:47Speaker 3: to get the recommendation to get interviewed. I believe that
- 30:51Speaker 3: She was one of those people who was literally chomping
- 30:54Speaker 3: at the bit, pining to be on this show, but
- 30:58Speaker 3: doing her best to be as subdued as possible as
- 31:01Speaker 3: she could. And now that she's in, now that she's
- 31:03Speaker 3: gotten in, she's trying to take up as much space
- 31:07Speaker 3: as she feels like she's rightfully owed because it should
- 31:09Speaker 3: have been her all along. That's how it feels to me.
- 31:12Speaker 3: And listen, that belted leather motorcycle jacket almost fooled me
- 31:16Speaker 3: too in her cast photos and shit. I thought she
- 31:20Speaker 3: was cool. and shit. I thought she was so cool.
- 31:23Speaker 2: I thought she was another race.
- 31:25Speaker 3: No shade. That's how fool we was. That's how hoodwink
- 31:30Speaker 3: we've been and bamboozled. But it's turning out a little
- 31:35Speaker 3: different with her. It's interesting that her and Aaron are
- 31:39Speaker 3: finding camaraderie in the midst of these specific conflicts that
- 31:45Speaker 3: are going on currently where Aaron is being exposed as
- 31:47Speaker 3: someone who's been talking about them. why was Aaron even
- 31:51Speaker 3: comfortable enough to say to Daisy, Jessel doesn't want me
- 31:57Speaker 3: to say what I know about her and been knowing
- 32:00Speaker 3: for over three years that'll destroy her family. She says
- 32:03Speaker 3: all that, then we get this nugget from Sy. How
- 32:07Speaker 3: do you feel, Carlos? This is one question I'm going
- 32:09Speaker 3: to ask you. How do you feel, Carlos, about, because
- 32:12Speaker 3: I understand that Jessel and Sy weren't close really until
- 32:15Speaker 3: this season, but how do you feel about Sigh, not
- 32:19Speaker 3: telling Jessel until now that Aaron has said that.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad you asked.
- 32:26Speaker 1: And that's why I'm a fair employer opportunity expert.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Listen, all you girls can get it. I have no
- 32:34Speaker 2: allegiance to any of y'all, child.
- 32:35Speaker 1: But I like all of y'all and I'm satisfied with
- 32:39Speaker 1: this season, but I don't own y'all shit. Two things
- 32:42Speaker 1: can't be true. Sigh, you fake as hell for that too, baby.
- 32:46Speaker 1: That My thing is this. Don't tell me on Mad
- 32:51Speaker 1: Day what another bitch said about me.
- 32:53Speaker 3: Bingo.
- 32:56Speaker 1: If me and you are so cool to the point
- 33:00Speaker 1: where you can tell me about your separation.
- 33:05Speaker 2: And you told Aaron.
- 33:07Speaker 1: In front of me at the premiere at Jessel's party
- 33:11Speaker 1: where Aaron was like, y'all cool?
- 33:13Speaker 2: Yeah, we're cool. You trust her? Yeah, I trust her.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Aaron was like.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Aaron was like, oh, bitch.
- 33:22Speaker 2: All the stuff I said to you, got it.
- 33:25Speaker 3: She got that download in the moment. Thank you.
- 33:27Speaker 2: She said, I see where you're going with this. So,
- 33:30Speaker 2: if I'm Jethro, I wouldn't trust Psy either because I
- 33:35Speaker 2: don't like anybody. One thing about... Again, go back to Dustin.
- 33:39Speaker 2: If Dustin heard anything about me.
- 33:42Speaker 3: Instantly. I.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Instantly. I can wait for you to go off your Zoom.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Yes, like, don't tell me about what this woman said
- 33:51Speaker 1: about my husband because you're mad.
- 33:53Speaker 3: I will look at it differently.
- 33:55Speaker 1: You can't on Mad Day tell me. There's no justification
- 33:59Speaker 1: for it. If you want to tease it, fine.
- 34:05Speaker 2: I'll drop a nugget.
- 34:07Speaker 1: However, we know Jesso is going to beg you off
- 34:09Speaker 1: camera too because that's what these girls used to do
- 34:11Speaker 1: before they got producers.
- 34:13Speaker 2: So then.
- 34:14Speaker 1: When Psy, which this made me so mad because, again,
- 34:20Speaker 1: I'm going to go there. This whole episode should be
- 34:23Speaker 1: called We're Going There.
- 34:24Speaker 3: We're Going There. Yeah.
- 34:27Speaker 1: Stop making it seem like you got to get some
- 34:29Speaker 1: messy gay boy.
- 34:30Speaker 2: I'm going to call it out, Dustin.
- 34:36Speaker 3: And I didn't like how Psy was talking to him.
- 34:39Speaker 3: My friends that are women don't speak to me like that,
- 34:42Speaker 3: and I don't speak to them in a way that
- 34:43Speaker 3: is disrespectful either. My women friends don't call me and say,
- 34:47Speaker 3: you're going to fucking talk to me right now. My
- 34:49Speaker 3: friends don't call me and say that. I don't call
- 34:51Speaker 3: my women friends and disrespect them like that. So I
- 34:54Speaker 3: didn't like how Cy was talking to him. I understand
- 34:56Speaker 3: everybody's relationship looks different. No, no, no.
- 34:58Speaker 2: He's on payroll, and I've spoken to Glam.
- 35:03Speaker 1: Some, not all, some glam people feel like the lady
- 35:05Speaker 1: talks to them crazy because they on payroll and they
- 35:09Speaker 1: feel like you're beneath them.
- 35:10Speaker 3: I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't
- 35:12Speaker 3: like that. I don't like that. The way that people
- 35:16Speaker 3: talk to people who perform functions that they deem subordinate
- 35:20Speaker 3: to them or whatever, I look at that and I
- 35:23Speaker 3: judge people by the way you speak to people, wait staff,
- 35:26Speaker 3: people in the hospitality industry, the way you speak to
- 35:29Speaker 3: people that work in those positions, those very necessary and
- 35:32Speaker 3: essential positions. Because remember, when COVID happened, we found out
- 35:36Speaker 3: what literal essential workers were, right? So put some respect
- 35:40Speaker 3: on it. I don't like people that talk to people
- 35:42Speaker 3: like that. And sometimes that shows up in the gay
- 35:44Speaker 3: guy and the lady relationship, the configuration, the gay guy
- 35:49Speaker 3: and the girl friendship. Sometimes you see that from the
- 35:52Speaker 3: women sometimes. And it's just ugly to me. I didn't
- 35:55Speaker 3: like that. So I don't think necessarily their relationship is horrible.
- 35:58Speaker 3: But like you said, he's on payroll. So I don't know.
- 36:02Speaker 1: And my thing is this, I, first of all, if
- 36:06Speaker 1: I'm your friend, this is, this is why glam and
- 36:11Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it real with y'all too.
- 36:14Speaker 2: Some glam members are messy as fuck. Sorry. Y'all y'all are.
- 36:18Speaker 2: That's the reason why.
- 36:20Speaker 1: I had a glam person recently tried to read me on, um,
- 36:25Speaker 1: Instagram and, Because I was commenting on his boss.
- 36:32Speaker 3: Hey, NeNe. Me and NeNe hate NeNe.
- 36:35Speaker 2: We need to say boss in season four.
- 36:36Speaker 3: I'm not talking about NeNe.
- 36:39Speaker 2: And I said, who is this?
- 36:41Speaker 1: And I said, girl, you'll be fired next season.
- 36:46Speaker 2: But my point is, some glam members are messy, but
- 36:49Speaker 2: some aren't.
- 36:50Speaker 3: That's really unprofessional, might I add.
- 36:52Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely.
- 36:54Speaker 3: You should have an invisible fence around you where you
- 36:59Speaker 3: don't hear or see. And you're supposed to be hear
- 37:00Speaker 3: no evil, see no evil when you work behind someone
- 37:04Speaker 3: who the attention is on. You shouldn't even be jumping
- 37:06Speaker 3: in there, getting in the mess. That's bringing negative conversation
- 37:11Speaker 3: to your boss, your boss's brand. It's just completely unprofessional.
- 37:15Speaker 3: And anybody that gave a fuck enough about it to Dude,
- 37:19Speaker 3: the great things that my friends that work in the
- 37:21Speaker 3: beauty industry have done, travel the world, work with magazine,
- 37:25Speaker 3: my friend Sir John is the cosmopolitan motherfucking beauty, whatever
- 37:29Speaker 3: the fuck. When people give a fuck about their careers,
- 37:33Speaker 3: it shows. And you don't do things like be messy
- 37:36Speaker 3: and get in drama. As a beauty professional, it's unprofessional.
- 37:41Speaker 1: It's unprofessional. And I think his name was Chris, size
- 37:46Speaker 1: makeup artist. She's not your friend either.
- 37:49Speaker 3: She sacrificed him.
- 37:53Speaker 1: She absolutely did for a moment to make her look
- 37:57Speaker 1: good in front of Jessel. My friend, Dustin's friends, our
- 38:01Speaker 1: girlfriends would never put us on the spot and put
- 38:04Speaker 1: us in that predicament.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Never.
- 38:06Speaker 2: You call me on camera about some shit?
- 38:09Speaker 3: Never.
- 38:10Speaker 1: I'm going to say I'm not getting involved. And to Aaron,
- 38:14Speaker 1: it's a good lesson for you too. Don't have glam
- 38:18Speaker 1: be there when you're talking shit to your homegirl as
- 38:20Speaker 1: a cast member. I thought that was so messed up.
- 38:25Speaker 1: The thing that Chris said to you guys, let me
- 38:28Speaker 1: just read it to y'all. She asked Chris if he
- 38:34Speaker 1: said something despicable about Jessel's husband.
- 38:36Speaker 2: He said yes.
- 38:39Speaker 1: He says that Aaron said, I know she's not happy
- 38:45Speaker 1: with her husband.
- 38:46Speaker 2: He's gay and she has.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Proof about how he goes to Equinox and be with guys.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Just like he doesn't go to the gym. He has
- 38:59Speaker 1: a dead bod, nor does he have an Equinox membership.
- 39:04Speaker 3: I think Jaisal had to let that one simmer for
- 39:06Speaker 3: a minute, right? Because I don't think it really hit her.
- 39:09Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? She laughed it off and
- 39:11Speaker 3: it was ridiculous if it's not true, right? But I
- 39:14Speaker 3: don't think it really sat with her and registered that
- 39:19Speaker 3: for three years, Erin has been holding this perspective on
- 39:24Speaker 3: your husband and also talking to people about it. She
- 39:28Speaker 3: we saw two times. So she said that shit to
- 39:32Speaker 3: in front of Chris. She said that shit to Chris inside.
- 39:35Speaker 3: Then we saw her literally tell Daisy in scene under
- 39:38Speaker 3: her breath. She doesn't want me to say what I know.
- 39:41Speaker 3: And I've known for three years I've been holding this.
- 39:45Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So I don't think it's
- 39:46Speaker 3: really hits hit just so yet. And when it does,
- 39:50Speaker 3: I think we in for some fireworks.
- 39:53Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 39:53Speaker 3: Because what the fuck? If anybody, Abe look gayer than Puppet.
- 40:01Speaker 3: You know Abe look like he's like.
- 40:03Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about that.
- 40:04Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not. He's not. Obviously, he's not gay, right?
- 40:08Speaker 3: We each know what he looks like. He looks like
- 40:10Speaker 3: them pastors and them politicians. He look like a senator
- 40:13Speaker 3: or something. They've been jacking off at the RNC and shit.
- 40:17Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? That's what he look like.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Not the one that Hunter Biden talks about. Yeah, that one.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Hunter Biden said, oh, y'all, this motherfucking gang at the
- 40:26Speaker 3: RNC weekend. So, yes. But I'm just saying aesthetically, whatever.
- 40:30Speaker 3: But listen, if I was Jessel, I will pull an
- 40:35Speaker 3: Arianne Curry. And I would say, when? You heard, yeah,
- 40:41Speaker 3: but who said it? When?
- 40:43Speaker 1: Who?
- 40:43Speaker 2: When?
- 40:44Speaker 3: Who?
- 40:44Speaker 5: When?
- 40:44Speaker 3: What? Yeah, but who told you that? When? I will
- 40:47Speaker 3: pull me an Arianne Curry and get to the bottom
- 40:51Speaker 3: of it if I was Jessel. And I hope she
- 40:53Speaker 3: does that because Aaron knows she been running her mouth.
- 40:56Speaker 3: You could tell by the way she was... I didn't
- 40:59Speaker 3: say anything to Martha. Or Jenna. When she said Jenna's name,
- 41:03Speaker 3: Aaron was like, okay, well, I haven't talked to Jenna,
- 41:05Speaker 3: so I can say firmly I didn't say anything to Jenna.
- 41:09Speaker 3: But you was listening at first to see who the
- 41:11Speaker 3: name was because you've been running your fucking mouth. Yeah.
- 41:15Speaker 2: So let's get into that. Let's get to that. So
- 41:18Speaker 2: Aaron's in the hot seat because allegedly....
- 41:25Speaker 1: She told a friend of Jenna Lyons about Aaron's, I'm sorry,
- 41:31Speaker 1: about Psy's separation because Psy said Jenna.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Lyons called her and was like, are you okay? And
- 41:37Speaker 2: she was like, I don't know, you heard what happened
- 41:39Speaker 2: in the news.
- 41:40Speaker 1: Jenna Lyons said, actually, bitch, I heard something else weeks
- 41:43Speaker 1: ago and this ain't news to me.
- 41:47Speaker 3: Why she wasn't doing that when she was on the show,
- 41:49Speaker 3: during her tenure on the show? This is the energy
- 41:51Speaker 3: you should have had, Jenna. Because I was watching this like,
- 41:54Speaker 3: look at Jenna Lyons acting like Chanel Ayan being messy
- 41:57Speaker 3: from the other side. I was like, that's what I'm
- 42:00Speaker 3: talking about. This is good housewifery. But why aren't you
- 42:03Speaker 3: doing it? Why didn't you do it when you're on
- 42:04Speaker 3: the show or whatever?
- 42:05Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes. No, and what's funny is for me.
- 42:10Speaker 3: Brody be feeling me.
- 42:11Speaker 2: No, Brody.
- 42:12Speaker 3: Brody be feeling me. We haven't seen him in a minute, Carlos.
- 42:15Speaker 3: Can we see Brody? Damn, we ain't seen Brody.
- 42:17Speaker 2: Come here, Brody. Brody. Let's see what come. Come here, Brody.
- 42:24Speaker 2: I would say Trevor.
- 42:25Speaker 1: Okay.
- 42:27Speaker 3: We want to see Brody, man. We need to check in.
- 42:31Speaker 2: Come here, Brody. Dustin wants to.
- 42:38Speaker 3: See you, Brody. Yes. There he is. What's up, Brody?
- 42:44Speaker 3: What's up, Brody? We've been missing you. And I heard
- 42:47Speaker 3: you over there fiddling me, Brody, so I already know
- 42:49Speaker 3: you know what time it is. Brody, say hi. Hi. Hey, Brody.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
- 42:57Speaker 3: That's right. We missed him. We ain't seen him in
- 42:59Speaker 3: a minute, Carlos.
- 43:00Speaker 2: There you go.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Hey, Brody. All right, man.
- 43:04Speaker 2: So the thing is this, though. Jenna Lyons, the reason
- 43:11Speaker 2: why the reboot, the re... You'll appreciate this.
- 43:17Speaker 3: The re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re. Right, right. Great interview, by the way. And
- 43:23Speaker 3: shout out to Beth because she right. I did. And
- 43:27Speaker 3: I'd do it again if she fuck up on the show.
- 43:29Speaker 3: So whatever. That's why you see I'm telling the truth
- 43:33Speaker 3: about her now. Like she's an incredible, incredible, incredible, incredible
- 43:37Speaker 3: anchor cast member on Love and Marriage Huntsville. And she
- 43:41Speaker 3: also was not at a point in time that we
- 43:43Speaker 3: told the truth and we tell the truth now. She right.
- 43:46Speaker 3: That didn't bother me at all. I started laughing like
- 43:48Speaker 3: I did. Mm-hmm. I did.
- 43:51Speaker 4: How about I say This guy, Justin Ross.
- 43:56Speaker 3: Shout out to Destiny. And she looked beautiful in y'all interview, Carlos.
- 43:59Speaker 3: Y'all both look good. I was like, you know this black,
- 44:02Speaker 3: they got on cream.
- 44:03Speaker 2: Cream.
- 44:03Speaker 3: Y'all niggas, y'all had on cream.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Unexpectedly. That's my Detroit girl.
- 44:09Speaker 3: Our Detroit girl. Yep.
- 44:12Speaker 1: So when she talked, okay, the reboot didn't work because
- 44:17Speaker 1: those girls tried to I'm not going.
- 44:20Speaker 2: To be that person on camera, but behind me will be.
- 44:23Speaker 2: Jenna Lyons is messy. This was her most interesting time
- 44:27Speaker 2: on the show.
- 44:28Speaker 3: She wasn't even on it.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Jenna Lyons, most iconic moment from the show in her
- 44:34Speaker 1: history of a housewife was in this episode because she
- 44:37Speaker 1: got the party started, okay? When she revealed that, well,
- 44:42Speaker 1: Aaron had told me, however, Aaron told somebody.
- 44:45Speaker 2: And that person told me. So Aaron... gets checked by
- 44:50Speaker 2: it from Psy.
- 44:51Speaker 1: Aaron denies it. But Aaron, we saw you last week
- 44:59Speaker 1: episode where you didn't know cameras were on you while
- 45:03Speaker 1: you were mic'd talking shit about the state of the
- 45:07Speaker 1: island and the house and how the house was shit.
- 45:10Speaker 1: If you can do that to Daisy, I mean, to Erica,
- 45:14Speaker 1: who's done nothing to you.
- 45:15Speaker 3: Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.
- 45:18Speaker 6: Done nothing to you it's plausible that you would tell
- 45:23Speaker 6: somebody about size separation because.
- 45:29Speaker 3: You're a gossiper and you don't give a fuck about
- 45:31Speaker 3: side you don't aaron don't give a fuck about side
- 45:34Speaker 3: aaron is look at how aaron's um look at the
- 45:38Speaker 3: the energy and the camaraderie that she has with daisy
- 45:43Speaker 3: And the way she engages with Daisy compared to the distant, cold,
- 45:48Speaker 3: not fully present way that she engages with everybody else. Jaisal,
- 45:52Speaker 3: everybody else. But her and Daisy, boom, you can see
- 45:55Speaker 3: she kind of dropped the veil a little bit when
- 45:58Speaker 3: it comes to Daisy. That's how we know she's not
- 46:00Speaker 3: being herself in her relationship with Sia. She don't give
- 46:03Speaker 3: a fuck, which to me is a clear indicator that
- 46:05Speaker 3: you have absolutely been running your goddamn mouth about Sia
- 46:08Speaker 3: and her divorce to everybody who will listen. I got
- 46:10Speaker 3: to deal with this bitch, Sia. You know, she's going
- 46:13Speaker 3: through a divorce. I know. I mean, I guess I
- 46:18Speaker 3: got to go through that. You know she's been talking
- 46:20Speaker 3: about her and shit behind her back this whole time, man.
- 46:24Speaker 3: And I wish she would just stand on it. Well, Cy,
- 46:26Speaker 3: I mean, I did. It's crazy that you're getting a
- 46:28Speaker 3: divorce to me. I never thought about it. And I
- 46:30Speaker 3: was shocked and talked to my friends and people that
- 46:32Speaker 3: I trust. Sorry. You know what I'm saying? But you
- 46:35Speaker 3: finna tell millions of people when this show comes on.
- 46:38Speaker 3: I would break the fourth wall. are we, what the fuck,
- 46:41Speaker 3: why are we guarding the gates when it comes to
- 46:43Speaker 3: me and what I'm sharing with my friends, you know
- 46:45Speaker 3: what I'm saying? You are getting a divorce. You are, Livia.
- 46:48Speaker 3: You just launched into it. I don't ever miss an
- 46:50Speaker 3: opportunity there, but that's okay.
- 46:52Speaker 2: That's actually, you know what, I know you.
- 46:55Speaker 1: You would have fucked with her hard, but like, Lois,
- 46:59Speaker 1: she's ranking high because if she would have said all
- 47:03Speaker 1: of those things like, I said that, you are going
- 47:06Speaker 1: through a divorce, I do think it's weird.
- 47:08Speaker 3: And I'm something.
- 47:09Speaker 1: I trust, Clearly, I can't trust him anymore. And that's that.
- 47:13Speaker 1: And the thing is this, even Carol said, oh, I
- 47:16Speaker 1: heard about that. It's the top of the town.
- 47:19Speaker 2: It's not a secret. And why are you embarrassed?
- 47:24Speaker 3: Why?
- 47:24Speaker 2: You're separated.
- 47:26Speaker 3: I would want everybody to know. I already told you,
- 47:30Speaker 3: I think divorce is sheep. So I would want everybody
- 47:33Speaker 3: to know. You know what I'm saying? So I don't understand.
- 47:36Speaker 3: But again, You know, like she said, which sometimes I
- 47:39Speaker 3: think people kind of... Anyway, but like she said, it
- 47:42Speaker 3: affects our kids. I'm still thinking people use that excuse.
- 47:46Speaker 3: My kids, my kids, my kids. It affects my kids,
- 47:49Speaker 3: which it does, though.
- 47:51Speaker 2: It actually doesn't. Listen, and I say this with kindness.
- 47:56Speaker 1: Your kids are more affected by you being on TV
- 47:59Speaker 1: versus going through a separation.
- 48:01Speaker 2: Like, let's stop. If you're a sucker.
- 48:05Speaker 1: attention housewives and reality stars don't say on camera what
- 48:09Speaker 1: my kids could be affected by it your kids are
- 48:13Speaker 1: affected by you being on the show.
- 48:15Speaker 4: So how about you just don't say it at all
- 48:17Speaker 4: because that's the elephant in the room they get to
- 48:21Speaker 4: their friends are watching their mom on tv and they
- 48:24Speaker 4: mama in the carpool lane the pta meetings is watching
- 48:27Speaker 4: you too and then on your business.
- 48:30Speaker 3: And i think what i meant was like this is
- 48:34Speaker 3: a sensitive subject that I don't want you to gossip about.
- 48:37Speaker 3: And she should have said that instead of trying to
- 48:39Speaker 3: attribute it to somebody disrespecting her kids in some way. Like,
- 48:43Speaker 3: it's just, it doesn't equate to that. You know what
- 48:46Speaker 3: I'm saying? So, I don't know. Psy be getting on
- 48:49Speaker 3: my nerves sometimes, but I like Psy, so.
- 48:52Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.
- 48:52Speaker 1: This episode, I was definitely more team Psy. The end, Psy,
- 48:56Speaker 1: you fucked up too.
- 48:57Speaker 3: You did. And, and, and, and, It wasn't what you
- 49:02Speaker 3: thought it was. So on day eight must be fucking.
- 49:06Speaker 3: What does he say? Cause of that.
- 49:10Speaker 2: I wrote it down.
- 49:12Speaker 1: Dustin, this is no shade. I had to rewind it,
- 49:16Speaker 1: hit the closed caption. Cause I'm like, what did she say?
- 49:21Speaker 2: Cause I didn't get it, but I taught the reaction
- 49:23Speaker 2: from the girls.
- 49:24Speaker 1: So Dustin, she said, I'm going to ask you the
- 49:27Speaker 1: pressing question that's on threads.
- 49:30Speaker 2: Okay.
- 49:31Speaker 1: So size said, um, a must be fucking you so
- 49:37Speaker 1: good in your mouth.
- 49:38Speaker 2: Cause it's big.
- 49:39Speaker 1: Um, And you're queefing in everyone's business. Now, I don't
- 49:44Speaker 1: own a vagina or have one. When they say lady parts,
- 49:50Speaker 1: what's queefing?
- 49:52Speaker 3: Your pussy farting. So like air coming out of your
- 49:55Speaker 3: pussy while you're having sex. Sticking something up it or
- 49:59Speaker 3: something like that. That's what that is. So your vagina.
- 50:03Speaker 3: And I'm only saying that because they use the word.
- 50:06Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Daisy.
- 50:08Speaker 6: Daisy.
- 50:09Speaker 3: Daisy is the one who used that word when she
- 50:11Speaker 3: described what queefing is. So let's just use it, right?
- 50:14Speaker 3: That's what it is. And it also was stupid.
- 50:19Speaker 2: Okay. The question is, was it a rehearsed read? Not
- 50:23Speaker 2: that it comes to me. Obviously, that was a rehearsed read.
- 50:27Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. Psy's the type of person who would trip
- 50:31Speaker 3: over her words in an off-the-dome, you know, verbal sparring
- 50:36Speaker 3: war with somebody. She needs to be prepped. That's why
- 50:39Speaker 3: she was able to enter that, you know, ring, so
- 50:42Speaker 3: to speak, with Carol Radziwill and get in there because
- 50:45Speaker 3: she was prepped. She had been debriefed. But if we're
- 50:48Speaker 3: talking about just coming up with insults off the dome,
- 50:50Speaker 3: which really this is one of the easiest casts to insult,
- 50:53Speaker 3: you could do a clean sweep. Just line them up
- 50:56Speaker 3: and go across. So I don't understand what the struggle is,
- 50:59Speaker 3: but that was absolutely rehearsed and prepared. Fail fat for me,
- 51:04Speaker 3: just like the pizza box joint that y'all love so much. But,
- 51:08Speaker 3: you know... Yeah, sorry.
- 51:12Speaker 2: Okay, one last question for you.
- 51:16Speaker 3: Yes. Un pregunta para mi. I love speaking Spanish.
- 51:24Speaker 2: I love that you do.
- 51:25Speaker 1: So, I literally laughed out loud at this moment.
- 51:31Speaker 2: And I want more of these moments, Dustin, I laughed
- 51:34Speaker 2: out loud.
- 51:34Speaker 1: So, Haley is trying to relate her John Gosling situation
- 51:39Speaker 1: to the Epstein files. And Daisy said, no disrespect. You're
- 51:45Speaker 1: the one who gives a life. And Haley said, you
- 51:49Speaker 1: know what? I need my lashes done. So I'm not
- 51:52Speaker 1: going to go there.
- 51:55Speaker 3: Yo, Haley funny as hell, man. Haley be having me dying.
- 51:59Speaker 3: I see why they casted her. Haley is funny as hell. Funny. Also,
- 52:05Speaker 3: daisy might have gotten on my nerves this episode but
- 52:07Speaker 3: she simply said what we've all been thinking i'm so
- 52:09Speaker 3: tired of hearing about this john gosling affair or whatever
- 52:13Speaker 3: the fuck from daisy i have forgotten about him i
- 52:17Speaker 3: have forgotten about that i have forgotten about all of
- 52:21Speaker 3: it and you can't tell me one second i'm gonna
- 52:23Speaker 3: say it you can't tell me for one second that
- 52:26Speaker 3: that there was there was not um a moment of
- 52:31Speaker 3: the celebrity, of the infamy, you know what I'm saying,
- 52:34Speaker 3: that was attached to that moment that Kaylee didn't enjoy.
- 52:38Speaker 3: That's why she's bringing it up now. If she would
- 52:40Speaker 3: have never said that she was a part of that,
- 52:41Speaker 3: we would have been watching this show six episodes into
- 52:45Speaker 3: the season, none the wiser. We would never know that
- 52:49Speaker 3: about her. She looks different. So she ain't even, she's
- 52:54Speaker 3: walking in this thing looking completely different. She looks like
- 52:56Speaker 3: a different woman than she did back when she was
- 52:58Speaker 3: dating him. We wouldn't have known unless she brought it up.
- 53:01Speaker 3: And it devalued her to me. She was better before
- 53:06Speaker 3: I knew that. She's good enough on her own. She's
- 53:08Speaker 3: full of personality and wit. I don't need to know
- 53:11Speaker 3: that about her.
- 53:13Speaker 2: You know what's so interesting? I could not agree with
- 53:15Speaker 2: you more.
- 53:15Speaker 1: Number one, I said this on this podcast about it.
- 53:19Speaker 1: I'm like, look, guys, call me whatever. I'm not buying
- 53:24Speaker 1: these tears. I'm not buying the concern.
- 53:26Speaker 2: You enjoyed it.
- 53:27Speaker 1: I'm not buying that. When my mother set me up
- 53:29Speaker 1: and I didn't know any better, you were in your 20s.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Girl, bye.
- 53:32Speaker 1: It was adjacent to at that time, because this is
- 53:37Speaker 1: me and Dustin's generation.
- 53:40Speaker 3: We were there. We were shooting in the gym.
- 53:43Speaker 1: Yes.
- 53:44Speaker 2: Was massively big.
- 53:46Speaker 3: Huge. They was getting so much goddamn money from TLC
- 53:50Speaker 3: and other opportunities. Kate was on top of all that.
- 53:53Speaker 3: She was guest hosting The View. All kind of shit
- 53:55Speaker 3: until we found out about her and John having them
- 53:57Speaker 3: problems and him being who he is. We didn't find
- 54:01Speaker 3: out any of that. If they were literally on like
- 54:04Speaker 3: Kardashian level of superstardom and for Jordan Wood, like they
- 54:08Speaker 3: was up there. Like people that you see and talk about.
- 54:10Speaker 2: Yes.
- 54:11Speaker 3: Yes.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm not going to sit up here and
- 54:14Speaker 1: like Daisy, not Daisy, Lord Jesus, that Hailey didn't like
- 54:18Speaker 1: the attention.
- 54:19Speaker 3: Because why us tell us? Why tell us? We don't know.
- 54:24Speaker 3: Even if somebody dug that up about you, so what?
- 54:28Speaker 3: No news outlets would pick that up. Who cares? You
- 54:31Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? Hailey wanted us to know that,
- 54:35Speaker 3: and that's the only thing that detracted from her for me.
- 54:39Speaker 3: I agree. To me, it means that you've been fame
- 54:42Speaker 3: hungry and thirsty for lack of a better term for
- 54:45Speaker 3: a very long time. That's what it looks like. And
- 54:49Speaker 3: that coupled with the willingness to overshare about her personal
- 54:54Speaker 3: life with her husband and her girlfriends or whatever. And
- 54:57Speaker 3: the oversharing with the tit broke my nose section like
- 55:01Speaker 3: that couple with that just equates to thirst to me.
- 55:04Speaker 3: Is she entertaining and great on the cast? Absolutely. And
- 55:08Speaker 3: people be thirsty. You know what I'm saying? Some people
- 55:10Speaker 3: have wanted to be celebrities for a long time. And
- 55:13Speaker 3: that's just what it looks like. So I'm really taking
- 55:16Speaker 3: that away from her.
- 55:19Speaker 2: But that's what I always say.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Dustin, as a producer, I always tell people, thirsty, great
- 55:26Speaker 1: for reality television, not dehydration. The reason why Hailey works
- 55:30Speaker 1: for reality TV, she's thirsty.
- 55:32Speaker 2: And it's not a bad thing. It's why she works.
- 55:36Speaker 1: But I do care way more about this lavender marriage
- 55:39Speaker 1: because I guess we're never seeing your husband.
- 55:42Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 55:43Speaker 2: So.
- 55:44Speaker 3: Neither is she. She at the pied-a-tay. Eating pee. Pushing pee.
- 55:49Speaker 3: She at the pied-a-tay pushing pee. She ain't seeing that
- 55:52Speaker 3: motherfucker either, Carlos. They might as well make him a shadow, too.
- 56:03Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Carlos?
- 56:09Speaker 7: We've seen your husband and apparently you're not either. So
- 56:13Speaker 7: I guess it's a win-win for the both of us.
- 56:15Speaker 7: But Haley, I will give you this. That was a
- 56:17Speaker 7: great bite to say. I want my lashes done, bitch.
- 56:21Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. Excellent housewifery. Excellent.
- 56:24Speaker 2: And have that.
- 56:25Speaker 1: So listen, Dustin, this is the first of many recaps.
- 56:31Speaker 2: We're going to do. But so far.
- 56:34Speaker 1: Let the Raindrops know, what are your overall thoughts so
- 56:37Speaker 1: far this season that the Raindrops would love to hear?
- 56:40Speaker 3: Love this new cast. I did appreciate Uba and Brynn
- 56:43Speaker 3: from season one and season, not season one and season two,
- 56:46Speaker 3: season 15 and season 14 and season 15. I did
- 56:50Speaker 3: appreciate Uba and Brynn, but I love the way that
- 56:53Speaker 3: this cast works. This show was casted perfectly this season.
- 56:59Speaker 3: This literally works and it's so entertaining. I'm enjoying it.
- 57:04Speaker 3: I have my favorites. I love Erica. I love Jessel.
- 57:07Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? I'm fucking with Psy right now,
- 57:10Speaker 3: rocking with her. And I like Aaron. So you know
- 57:13Speaker 3: what I'm saying? It is what it is. I am
- 57:16Speaker 3: enjoying this season. I think that it's been highly entertaining.
- 57:20Speaker 3: The introduction of the Epstein files of it all in
- 57:24Speaker 3: episode six was perfect timing because episode six and seven
- 57:28Speaker 3: is when the valley starts to dip a little bit
- 57:30Speaker 3: of interest or whatever things start wearing thin at that point.
- 57:33Speaker 3: So The producers are doing their job. The cast is
- 57:36Speaker 3: doing their job. And it's equating to a very highly
- 57:40Speaker 3: entertaining watch for me. So I love it so far.
- 57:43Speaker 2: I agree with you. I have no notes.
- 57:45Speaker 1: And Raindrops, Dustin, as we recap the Real Housewives of
- 57:50Speaker 1: New York City.
- 57:51Speaker 3: You know it. You know it.
- 57:52Speaker 2: To get on Patreon to watch the video. Dustin, I
- 57:55Speaker 2: love you, brother.
- 57:56Speaker 3: I love you too, brother.
- 57:57Speaker 1: Dustin will be back this Friday for Reality After Dark.
- 58:01Speaker 3: That's right.
- 58:03Speaker 2: Where we get a little bit more spicy. So make
- 58:04Speaker 2: sure you guys subscribe and tune to that. All right, Dustin.
- 58:07Speaker 3: Love you, brother.
- 58:08Speaker 2: Have a good one, man.
- 58:09Speaker 3: You too.
- 58:13Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me, Carlos King.
- 58:18Speaker 1: Produced by Jamie Schaefer in partnership with the Black Effect
- 58:22Speaker 1: Podcast Network. You can also find us at our YouTube
- 58:25Speaker 1: channel at thecarlosking _ _. I'm also dropping tons of
- 58:29Speaker 1: exclusive episodes.
- 58:31Speaker 2: On Patreon, which you don't want to miss. Make sure
- 58:34Speaker 2: to subscribe to that too.