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Kaci Carlson: The Energy Healing Journey That Awakened Her Spiritual Gifts! · The Liftoff Experience Podcast

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  Energy flows where attention goes.
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  So if my attention and intention is to pour that light, that life force energy, and I am like that magnifying glass, but just a vessel, then it kind of will be able to move through those energy centers, which also connect to physical systems in the body.
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  And so that can kind of go back to that part where if there's dis-ease in the body that eventually can lead to disease.
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  And so there can be dis-ease in your energetic body.
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  I could see there's the emotional body, mental body, energetic body, and it's all connected to the physical body.
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  But we just feel it in our physical form usually.
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  You have had back pain forever, you've got this low back pain, you've been to every doctor, no one can help you, you've had injections, like all these things in medication, nothing's working.
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  Then you go and get some of this work done and you realize it's because you haven't been feeling supported your entire life.
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  Your parents didn't support you, your partner doesn't support you, therefore you can't support yourself.
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  And it's more of an emotional imbalance in the body, and you're feeling it physically.
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  Thank you.
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  I'm excited to be here.
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  I love it, I love it.
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  Um, so it's been, I think, a couple months in the works, and we met each other on Instagram, and um always looking for like-minded individuals that are just doing things to really be able to help us as just a species be able to like.
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  I love how you help people like come back into their body.
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  And like you're not just doing like sound healing, you're not just doing yoga, you're not just doing movement, like you have this way of bringing it all together.
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  So for today's show, you're gonna learn some really cool things, and we're gonna get into her story, how she got everything started, to where she's at today.
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  You have your own uh location as well for any viewers or listeners out there that might want to come and and go through the experience with you.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  I'm at Get Will Be Well.
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  It's Gilbert.
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  Okay, and I work inside a chiropractor's office.
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  We offer a lot of different qualities there.
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  Yeah, it's super cool, it's fun.
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  So it's a part, it's almost like a part of the it's all part of the whole thing.
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  Yeah, almost like like a wellness clinic.
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  Okay.
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  Okay, I love it.
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  So let's get into your story.
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  I'm curious, like when you first got started before you're doing the things that you're doing, like, what were you doing?
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  What was life like?
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  Oh gosh.
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  So I have five kids.
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  Oh my god, how old?
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  Uh um 21, uh, 19, 16, 14, and 8.
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  Or I think he's nine.
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  Like, she's like, well, you know, I don't know what his birthday is.
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  Birthday just came.
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  I don't know.
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  Yeah.
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  So I've been a hairstylist for 21 years.
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  Oh.
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  And um, while I was a hairstylist, I also was a piano teacher.
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  So I've taught probably over 10 years.
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  Um, and my husband travels for work.
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  So uh he'll come home like sometimes on a Saturday or Sunday.
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  Sometimes he's gone for weeks at a time, he's been gone for months at a time.
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  Wow.
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  Um, so I've kind of done kind of like the single parent thing, although, you know, obviously he's financially supporting and he's great when he's home and very involved.
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  But so I was working a lot, working with clients.
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  And what's interesting is when you're you're working, and everyone kind of knows this.
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  When you go see your hairstylist, they become like your therapist in a way, you know, like definitely not certified to be one.
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  But things come up.
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  Yeah, it does.
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  And you just feel comfortable opening up.
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  I think it's you start to get almost like this space where you feel safe to be a little vulnerable.
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  Now that I've been doing more energy work, I understand as well that I was um in a way like pouring love into their crown chakra, right?
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  I'm working all the crown of their head, and um, so it kind of just got them to naturally open up more as well, I feel like.
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  And um, so yeah, I was doing that, and then I used to um I had a digital piano and I would take it around and um and I I sing as well.
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  So I would go to these tea plays called Serendipity, and I would yeah, so fun.
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  And so I would play the piano and sing and get tips from people there, and so um that's so cool.
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  Yeah, just always and then we lived in Mexico for a couple years.
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  My husband was going to school there, and so maybe we traveled around and wow, uh huh.
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  That's super cool.
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  How did you beat your husband?
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  Uh high school.
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  Oh, high school sweethearts, yeah.
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  And then my kids have now graduated from the same.
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  Love it.
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  That's awesome.
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  Yeah, and my kids graduated from the same high school, and I've got teenagers.
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  So you've lived here in Arizona your whole life?
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  Yeah, yeah, I've been in Arizona native.
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  That's super, super cool.
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  Yeah, I'm a transplant, so about six years, but absolutely love it.
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  My wife was born in Tucson, so not too far from uh from here.
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  So she's technically, I guess you could say a native, and then she went to California, that's where we met, and we've been here for about six years.
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  Um but that's very interesting how like doing what you're doing from the hairstylist standpoint to then even put that together, because one thing that comes up for me is I do the same as far as like you go get your hair done and you start opening up and you start talking to them and what have you.
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  And it's actually for some reason, and maybe you could speak on this, and because I've been cutting my own hair since like third grade.
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  Nice, and um, I've been doing it because one, it's easy during COVID, it was convenient, but I also felt kind of vulnerable during getting my hair cut.
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  Yeah, and I felt like depending on the people, and also for me, I'm a talker, and then I get into like entrepreneurship and this and that, blah blah blah.
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  And then it's just like it's innate in me to feel like I want to be of service.
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  Yeah, so I'll pour into people.
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  So that's very interesting.
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  I never put that together before, which is so so interesting.
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  So, what was the catalyst to go from hair to like energy work and all the things that you're doing now?
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  Yeah, well, so I've yoga, but I I started doing yoga and it's gonna tell you my age.
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  Uh, the first time I did yoga was my mom's VHS tape, right?
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  Like I was I was super young.
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  I grew up in a very, very strict religion.
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  And so it's it was kind of like almost faux pas.
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  Like they looked at yoga almost like it was too spiritual, like a different religion, that spirituality.
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  We don't dip into that, right?
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  Interesting.
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  And but the first time I tried, I'm like, what is this yoga thing?
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  So I put it on and and I fell in love with it.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, and but no one else around me in my circle did yoga or anything with that.
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  And so I was like, Yeah, right.
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  I looked at it.
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  This girl for sure.
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  Yeah.
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  So I was like, I guess I shouldn't do it, and I kind of set it aside.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, so I've always been in love with that and fascinated with it and how it kind of took me out.
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  I'm like that fire element, so it's go, go, go, fast energy.
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  And so to be able to have a type of practice that could get me to slow down and feel comfortable being in my body, slowing down, uh, was like this type of magic I had never experienced.
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  Wow.
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  And so um, yeah, I've always gravitated towards it.
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  Um, but then when I so after I had my fifth baby, uh, that pregnancy and delivery was really, really traumatic.
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  And so I I had him, he was just shy of 11 pounds, 24 inches long.
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  Wow.
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  I delivered him naturally.
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  Wow.
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  So I had a fractured pubic bone.
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  And this kind of got me to really lean more into this stuff.
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  I had always wanted to be a yoga instructor, but I kept having babies.
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  I was either pregnant or breastfeeding, so I just didn't go to the training.
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  Always wanted to do it though, fascinated by it.
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  And kind of did it at gyms and studios and things off and on throughout the years.
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  But after my fifth baby in 2017, um I came home from the hospital just feeling completely broken and lost.
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  And while I was at the hospital, the nurses wouldn't listen to me when I kept saying something is wrong.
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  And I was used to being a people pleaser, grew up in my religion.
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  It's very much like you're of service.
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  Yeah.
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  And you do what other people want.
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  And don't ruffle feathers, you know what I mean?
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  Just be accommodating and very kind and gracious.
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  And so it was hard for me to speak up for myself.
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  And after that experience of trying to tell them something is wrong with my body, I can feel it.
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  And I knew it was, it was the most excruciating pain I've ever experienced.
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  Wow.
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  They dismissed me, they ignored me, and I had to really advocate for myself.
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  No one was speaking up for me.
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  And I was like, no, something is wrong.
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  I cannot walk.
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  And the nurse made me get up and walk on this fractured pubic bone and walk to the restroom.
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  And I'm like sobbing and begging her, saying something's wrong.
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  She still wouldn't do anything.
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  Finally, my doctor did an x-ray and he was like, Yeah, you have a fractured uh pubic bone.
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  This is Hello.
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  Yeah, right.
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  Yeah, I'm like, I try to tell you guys.
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  He's like, This is more of like an injury that soccer players get, or if you have a large baby, right?
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  Yeah.
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  And my cervix also ripped open.
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  So I had all these things happening.
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  And when I got home, my husband had to leave to go out of town.
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  And here I am using a walker to get around with my fifth baby.
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  I had four other children that were all very close in age and needed my help, and I could barely move.
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  And so it kind of just I felt broken on every level, physically, mentally, emotionally.
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  And um, I went back to my yoga practice, which I couldn't do anything of the asanas, the physical practice part of it.
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  And so I sometimes just laid on my mat and I would cry, lay in a shavasana.
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  I would pray, I would meditate and kind of just pour it out.
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  And um eventually it was kind of like my sacred space for healing.
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  I I joke that like Jesus and yoga saved me.
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  You know, I I went to a really, really dark place.
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  Plus, my baby, he would he would stop breathing in the middle of the night.
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  He got sick a lot.
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  I had to go to ER with him, he had croup a lot, and I was doing it by myself and my husband was gone.
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  And so many stories I could go into with that, but it kept bringing me back to my my knees on my mat, like folded over child's pose or lying in shavasana.
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  And um finally I had the courage, um, a couple years after that to go and get my training in it and certification.
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  And wow.
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  Um it's just interesting though how I've kind of always intuitively done it.
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  I've always been fascinated with the energy of plants and could sense and feel people's energy around me and animals, and I would kind of know things before it happened.
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  I would see things before things played out and actually happened.
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  And so then tapping more into that and trusting my intuition, which I was kind of taught more to just only solely completely rely on God or the leaders of our church.
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  And and it was more like um the men in in our church were able to receive a revelation for what would be best for the family or for you.
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  And so it was kind of like I didn't have, I mean, almost autonomy in a way to be able to speak up and have my voice be heard and be like, no, I don't feel good about it.
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  I need to trust my intuition.
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  It was kind of shut down and nothing to say anything negative about that religion.
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  I love the people in it.
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  My family's still very active, wonderful, beautiful people.
• 10:16
  Yeah.
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  Um, but you know, there's like little pros and cons, I think, with every faith, with every belief system and religion.
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  So um, yeah, so it kind of, I don't know if that answered your question.
• 10:26
  No, it really did.
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  Do you do you mind if we know the type of religion?
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  Uh yeah, I grew up in the LDS church.
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  Okay, fantastic.
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  And not that it makes a difference, you know.
• 10:35
  Yeah, but for people that are curious, exactly.
• 10:37
  If you're curious, uh you're resonating with Casey's message, you know, maybe you want to explore that.
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  Uh and first and foremost, I just have to say, Mom award.
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  Congratulations on being a super mom.
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  Like, to then do what you did to be there for the five kids and your husband's gone, and to just power through everything, like that's huge.
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  So, like, just gotta say, like, proud of you for that.
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  So, of course, because I'm sure there's moms out there listening, and like at the end of the day, like, they don't get enough kudos or recognition and what have you, and like you know, and you stood by your husband every step of the way, like that.
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  Wow.
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  Thank that's good for you.
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  But thank you.
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  But yeah, answer my question, and also, you know, this is why we have this platform because I think there's people out there that maybe could be going through something like you're going through, or they don't feel like they they feel something, and maybe they have this intuitive sense, but they don't really know what it what it is, and they don't really want to maybe maybe explore because you know things are set up a certain type of way.
• 11:37
  And and and what what was like, I guess, I guess it was a lot of the things, but what was the it could you pinpoint a catalyst that gave you the the overall um I guess you could say courage to like go in this other direction?
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  And yeah, and you know, I know that to to leave that type of religion, you know, you know, I don't even know if you would say get a sense of like uh making sure it's okay or a sense of approval, but you know, you obviously have to make it known.
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  Yeah.
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  So first question is was there a catalyst?
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  Was there like a point where you're like, okay, I'm going in this direction, or was it just kind of organic?
• 12:12
  No, there was.
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  I think there were a lot of things leading up to it and backstories, um, but it's gonna sound crazy.
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  You're totally fine.
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  You're totally fine.
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  This is a safe space, and you know, everyone here is, you know, this is an open conversation so we can have more lift off personally, professionally, and spiritually, and just go through the process of being able to explore things together here.
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  So then I guess I should say funny story is I actually had a podcast of my own.
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  Oh yeah, with my friend.
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  Uh, here's why I'm saying funny is that it was called meta or it was called um medium mixology.
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  Okay.
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  And so this is gonna go back to answer your question.
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  Okay.
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  So my friend and I, we were both intuitives and mediums, and we did our podcast.
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  Ooh.
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  Yeah.
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  And the only reason we stopped doing it is we're just so busy.
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  She has six kids, I have five.
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  It was kind of crazy to try and make it work, and I work four jobs, you know.
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  So it was a lot.
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  Um, but so I um my brother passed away when I was almost 19, and he had leukemia.
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  Um, and so before he passed, he was at home with hospice and the nurses were there, and I was getting ready to leave for work.
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  And like I said, I would hear, see, feel things that not everyone else did.
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  And um, I went to kiss him on his forehead and I just heard and I felt he was gonna pass as soon as I leave.
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  And I'm like, as soon as you clock in at work, case, he's he's not gonna be with us.
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  And and I feel that it was him wanting me to leave.
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  So it's like, hey, I'm gonna let you know this is gonna be the moments that I take my last breath.
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  You're gonna miss it, but I don't want you here for it.
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  So the nurses kept saying, Don't leave Casey.
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  He he only has a couple more moments left.
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  And I was like, No, I'm gonna go, I need to go, he'll be fine.
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  Even though I knew he was gonna pass.
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  Wow.
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  So I left, I clocked in, and right after I clocked in, I heard the phone ring and I knew I knew it was calling to let me know.
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  And so when I answered it, it was our neighbor, she was sobbing and she told me he had passed.
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  Um yeah, and so then a couple days later, we were preparing for his funeral.
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  Everyone kept bringing over flowers, and I was trying to preserve the flowers for my mom.
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  So I was out our oven and my back was to the rest of the family at the table.
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  And I was dipping these flowers in wax to preserve them, and I was just kind of saying quietly aloud, and also in my head, just hey bud, you know, I really I already really miss you.
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  I wish, why'd you have to go?
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  I wish you didn't have to leave.
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  And then he was right there on the counter, just light all around him, and he's like, Case, I'm here, sis.
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  Like I never left, I'm always gonna be with you.
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  Wow.
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  And I'm looking around and I'm like, I looked back and they're still just talking.
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  I'm like, does anyone see?
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  Like, he's right here.
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  Does anyone see him?
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  And um, and so it was a really special, beautiful thing.
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  And I had seen other spirits before and seen my brother sent after that.
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  But what really changed things to where I had the courage to step into this world and leave my religion was um 2020.
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  And I'm laying on my mat and I was folded over in child's hose.
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  And sometimes when I would end my practice, I would just like say a prayer and then sit there quietly.
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  That was my form of meditation.
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  And as I'm sitting there, all of a sudden I felt so like I felt a lot of heat, like light come around me and I could kind of see it and sense it.
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  And then I felt my brother come in.
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  And this was the craziest thing that I all of a sudden was inside almost like this tornado, and it's moving around, moving around.
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  And I could see the news and I could see because there's so much going on in 2020, right?
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  Yeah.
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  And I could see the news, I could see people feeling stressed, I could see kids with masks on and all kinds of chaos, and it felt like so stressful.
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  And I started physically spinning in a circle, and I'm like in my child's pose, just moving in a circle, right?
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  And my brother, he came in again and he's like, Okay, it's gonna be hard.
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  It's gonna be really, really the most difficult thing you've ever done.
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  Wow.
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  But if you will trust yourself and you will trust that I am with you and that Jesus has never left your side, you'll be able to do this work.
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  And I was like, Okay, it's gonna be okay then.
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  And then it was gone.
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  It was like the it was like this twister that was around me just vanished.
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  And my body was still physically moving and like swaying in a circle.
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  And I I was like vibrating, my hands were tingling, everything was.
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  I feel like I'd been lifted up off my mat in a way.
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  And I was like, okay, how many more signs do I need?
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  You know, I was like, it is time, it is time.
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  How many visits do you need from your brother?
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  And like the Christ energy to can do this, girl.
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  So yeah, so then I went and did my training soon after that, and um, it kind of gradually the yoga training I did my 500 hour, it it led naturally organically into um my Reiki training.
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  Wow.
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  So yeah.
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  So from the perspective of that moment to then transitioning into the trainings and what have you, did you have that heart to heart with your husband?
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  Like, did you speak to your children?
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  Like, was it like that, or was it just an organic, like you just kind of left it?
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  Like, how did you even approach something like that?
• 16:50
  I did talk to them and it was difficult because my oldest, I think she was she was a teenager, maybe 13 or 14 at the time.
• 16:56
  So she definitely grown up in it, and her younger sister as well, because they're like 21 months apart.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Um, it was difficult, but I I was really um focused on making sure it was their choice.
• 17:06
  Yeah.
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  This is what I'm choosing to do, and I support whatever your decision is.
• 17:10
  Of course.
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  You want to go to church and I will drive you, you know, I'll even go and sit with you for a bit if you want.
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  Um, I made it to be their choice.
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  And so um they kind of fought me on it, and my husband did as well.
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  Okay.
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  Um, but it just it was kind of a process, and eventually um I think it was more that I just kept telling myself that uh you can do this, God is gonna love you no matter what.
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  Because I also kind of grew up feeling like if I didn't do X, Y, and Z, like this black and white thinking, and you're just in this box, and this is right, this is wrong.
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  And if you try and step into that gray area, he's gonna be disappointed in you.
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  So it was almost like a reprogramming, uh rewiring that that thought process and that belief system.
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  And it never really resonated with me.
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  Like the God I would pray to, he'll love me no matter what.
• 17:56
  Yeah.
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  But then you grow up hearing these things.
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  And again, it's nothing to say anything bad of my mom and dad.
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  They're incredible people.
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  No, it's what was taught to them, you know, and they have shifted and changed since then.
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  But um it yeah, it was definitely hard to kind of break that mold and let my family know.
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  It was the hardest to tell my dad and mom.
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  I I love my parents so much and they are very active in the church, which is wonderful, and they're they're incredible people.
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  Um, you know, but I think it did break their heart a little bit.
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  Yeah.
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  Uh, and I I would never want to do that, you know, that's not ever my intention.
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  Um, so yeah, that was that was difficult.
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  And I have since had negative comments from other family members, of course.
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  Friends, you know, or not letting our kids play together.
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  Yes.
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  We're no longer in that same belief system.
• 18:39
  Yep.
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  Um, and then also especially with going into Reiki, with doing energy work, there's a huge like negative context around that, especially within the religious community.
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  Of course.
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  Uh yeah.
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  And so and that a lot of that was really heartbreaking, you know.
• 18:53
  Then I'm like, if you guys know me and if you would have a conversation with me, you would know that I very much still I have a strong belief in God and Jesus Christ.
• 19:00
  Yep.
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  And I have always said that Jesus is the ultimate Reiki master.
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  Amen.
• 19:04
  You know, like we are taking that Christ consciousness, his energy and his unconditional love and pouring that into people.
• 19:11
  That is what it is.
• 19:12
  That's yeah, essentially it's light.
• 19:14
  And you know, I was thinking of this the other day, it's interesting that people, you could be atheist and you could call um that energy, you could call it universe, or you can be Christian and say God.
• 19:23
  Or uh maybe it's more like the yogic uh philosophy and belief system would be prana, like that life force energy.
• 19:31
  Yeah, whatever it is at the end of the day, it is still uh light, it is still life force energy, it is still unconditional love.
• 19:39
  Amen.
• 19:39
  We're all seeing the same thing, just different verbiage.
• 19:42
  Yes, you know, it's like we're we're way, we're a lot more similar than than we're making out to be.
• 19:47
  We're we're speaking the same thing, just different language, you know?
• 19:50
  Yes.
• 19:51
  And it's funny, I've had some Reiki clients that are very, very Christian, and I've had some that believe don't believe any of it.
• 19:57
  And so I'm respectful of wherever they are.
• 19:59
  I don't talk about God and Jesus when I know that's not where you stand, and that's okay.
• 20:03
  Um, so I I respect where everyone is at and meet them where they are at.
• 20:07
  But I've had some religious uh clients that get a little startled, um, kind of freaked out at the information that comes through after a session.
• 20:17
  Yes.
• 20:17
  And so also because some of them don't really believe in psychic mediums.
• 20:21
  And so, you know, when you go for a Reiki session, you're not gonna get the same feedback.
• 20:26
  Um chakras and energy centers and what's happening in the physical and emotional energetic body.
• 20:32
  But if you come see me, you're gonna get a little extra if you're open for it.
• 20:36
  Yeah.
• 20:36
  Again, I respect wherever anyone's at.
• 20:38
  Some people don't want the message.
• 20:39
  Um, and some they come for that to where I'm like, actually, we need to change this and schedule this for a reading.
• 20:46
  Wow.
• 20:49
  Wow.
• 20:49
  So it's just interesting to see where everyone sits, where they stand with that.
• 20:54
  Um, but they're still coming for that light to be poured and the love to be poured and move through them, you know?
• 21:01
  Yep.
• 21:01
  So it's just fascinating.
• 21:04
  I love it.
• 21:04
  I just want to put some uh, you know, a couple quotes like, you know, this is a safe space.
• 21:09
  We're being open here to all and any thoughts that you believe and that you want to get into.
• 21:15
  And like that's what who I am and what I love to do.
• 21:17
  I love to just be open to all and anything.
• 21:20
  Um, like my daughter right now is getting into she's like talking about going to church and she wants to go with Grammy, and then she has her little Bible and she's reading about it, and then she's asking us questions.
• 21:29
  And like my wife was huge in church, and she was um she was uh Christian growing up and she did um choir and she went on the missions and all that type of stuff, which she loved it.
• 21:40
  It was great.
• 21:40
  And then we got into um when we first met 2017 18.
• 21:45
  Uh, we were coming back from Los Angeles because she had something with school, so we went down to San Diego, and then I brought her on to a book, The Law of the Universe.
• 21:54
  And so getting into Abraham Hicks and that type of content, which is more of like a channeled text, and it completely Completely started to open up the gates to so much more.
• 22:02
  And then Paul Sellick, uh I am word, and uh Dolores Cannon, and all of these other individuals, which, if you're listening and viewing and you don't know what any of those individuals are, have fun, go down the rabbit hole, be open to it because you never know.
• 22:17
  Um, and you know, we experience a little bit of that here locally.
• 22:20
  Like, you know, we have amazing LDS down the street, some girls that would love to play with my daughter, and you know, we're not in the religion, so you know, we keep our boundaries, whatever, but we had a car event, and I do car events here, and so I'm very fortunate to have a couple dream cars, and so we had supercars here, and you know, the family came and we fed them and and they went swimming, and it was cool.
• 22:40
  And so, so you know, I've always been someone in my life who's just been cool with everyone.
• 22:45
  I uh jocks, nerds, whoever.
• 22:48
  So that's what this space is supposed to be, is one where it's like, and my wife was talking about well, maybe you gotta go, you know, be a little bit more deliberate with you know who the guests are, which I believe God, Jesus, universe, call it what you will, leads as it's supposed to.
• 23:03
  And so every single guest in this show has been more organic.
• 23:06
  I haven't really been pushing to try to get a certain type.
• 23:10
  I mean, I love this, I love this type of conversation.
• 23:13
  Yeah, and we're gonna go deeper here in one minute.
• 23:16
  Um, but I I allow because I feel that there's you know, I look at me as I'm very bougie, so I kind of joke around being like the bougie the bougie uh the bougie yogi, kind of is my thing.
• 23:28
  Um, you know, because it's fun, you know, we're here, let's enjoy whatever.
• 23:33
  Um, and also I feel like it kind of bridges the gap because I feel like there's people out there, like if I like cars, that bridges the gap to them maybe watching this show and getting a different perspective on something they never even thought about.
• 23:45
  And then if it resonates, it can open up a new door, and we're just giving them the keys they didn't know they needed to open that door.
• 23:52
  Yes.
• 23:52
  So and Cliff note.
• 23:54
  Uh so now I want to go deeper, Casey, into let's talk about this whole medium conversation.
• 24:00
  Like, I don't know if the visual listeners understand what that means, what that is, how that even works.
• 24:05
  How do how did you even get to a point where like you classified that for yourself?
• 24:09
  You know what I'm saying?
• 24:10
  Oh gosh, that's a whole time.
• 24:13
  We got time.
• 24:13
  I mean, you can you can get into the short version now, and then hey, and then you know, if we get up to the two hours and we need more time, or you know, the consensus out there, y'all, you know, hit tell us your feedback.
• 24:24
  You're liking what we're talking about, you want her back on, we can go another two hours in a later date, you know?
• 24:28
  So um, okay, so I like I said, since I was little, I could see certain things.
• 24:34
  Um, so a medium is someone that can see spirits that have crossed.
• 24:39
  Got it.
• 24:40
  Um, and when I was little, it was so it's so hard to put to words.
• 24:45
  But I remember I remember seeing spirits, and some of them would come through as very light, some of them would appear dark, but it's simply because my physical eye was translating their essence as dark, almost like a shadow.
• 24:59
  Yeah.
• 24:59
  And so again, within that religious box, um, if you see something dark, then you need to pray more, you need to read your scriptures more.
• 25:09
  Yeah, almost, and it wasn't said this to me exactly, but it felt almost like I had done something wrong, or I'm calling in darkness, or Satan is upset.
• 25:16
  That whole thing, right?
• 25:17
  Which I don't believe in the Satan, but that's a different thing.
• 25:19
  Um, so but back then I was like, Well, gosh, I need to pray more.
• 25:22
  I'm doing something wrong because it's dark.
• 25:24
  Now, the older I've gotten and the more I've leaned into leaned into this and raising a son who is a really powerful medium.
• 25:31
  Really?
• 25:32
  Yeah, he's 14.
• 25:32
  My friends that are super intuitive, they're like, he is like the next Tyler Henry.
• 25:36
  So if you wanted to, we've actually done readings together.
• 25:38
  It's super cool to do.
• 25:39
  It's fun to do mother-son.
• 25:40
  We've done um where we did like this whole workshop type of event and people would come in and we'd read together, and it was really beautiful.
• 25:47
  Beautiful.
• 25:47
  I love that.
• 25:48
  Yeah, so helping walk him through what I needed someone to walk me through, but they didn't have the tools and resources.
• 25:54
  So I'm not upset about it.
• 25:56
  They did the best they could, but to be able to do that with him is almost a way of reparenting for myself.
• 26:02
  If for like to remind him, you know, lean into it.
• 26:05
  So I will I will put up like this shield of protection, and then I'm always calling on my angels and Jesus Christ's energy and his love and light to surround me as protection.
• 26:14
  And then I will lean into that.
• 26:15
  And then once I lean in more, I can then start to see if it's light or dark.
• 26:19
  And that's how I decide if they can stay in my space or if I need to send them, or if they have a message for someone I need to deliver.
• 26:25
  Okay.
• 26:25
  Um, and so, but yeah, growing up, I would see things, I would tell my family, and they're like, probably just thought I had a vivid imagination.
• 26:32
  And they're like, you know what, or go say a prayer if you're seeing dark things, you need to just say a prayer before you go to bed.
• 26:37
  Which I still do that, you know, if I'm feeling off, obviously I still go back to praying.
• 26:41
  Um, but it kind of made me feel like I was crazy in a way, and um I had no one to really talk to about it.
• 26:48
  So I just I just pushed it aside.
• 26:49
  I was like, okay, well, then I'm just gonna try and shut it down.
• 26:51
  I did my best to ignore it.
• 26:53
  And then I had this crazy experience.
• 26:55
  Um, my husband was still living in Mexico going to school there, and I came back, I was pregnant with our fourth, and I was about seven and a half months along.
• 27:02
  Our fourth is my son who's a medium.
• 27:03
  And so I had tried to shut it down.
• 27:05
  I still saw things, I still had visits from people, experiences, but I just didn't talk about it.
• 27:10
  And when I was asleep, all of a sudden this wild um energy came through.
• 27:15
  All these spirits just filled the room, but it was very, very dark.
• 27:18
  And they were shouting, he's ours, we get him, you don't have access to him.
• 27:22
  We're gonna, and it now that I I've given now that I know my son and I know his abilities, it makes so much sense why some of that darker stuff was coming through.
• 27:30
  Cause I'd never had that before or with any other baby.
• 27:33
  And I'm like, what is going on?
• 27:35
  And um, that time it was so strong and powerful.
• 27:38
  I like froze.
• 27:39
  I woke up, I did say a prayer.
• 27:40
  I'm like, please help me, please protect me.
• 27:42
  I I felt I felt frozen like I couldn't move because there were so many in the room.
• 27:45
  And I'm 30-year-old woman pregnant with my fourth baby, and I go running down the hall to mom and dad because I'm living at their house.
• 27:52
  Oh my god.
• 27:52
  Yeah, and I was like, you guys have to wake up.
• 27:54
  The craziest thing, you come in my room and I explained it.
• 27:57
  And even they could see and feel it when they came into the room.
• 27:59
  Wow.
• 28:00
  So we all said a prayer to get it to leave.
• 28:02
  So they they know my parents now always knew that I would see and sense and feel things.
• 28:06
  Um, and then bless my husband's heart, he doesn't see or feel any of it.
• 28:10
  In fact, I've nicknamed him the blocker that like when he's around, if he's asleep and I can wake him up and there's a lot of people, cut a lot of spirits stepping through, I can wake him up and it is wild.
• 28:19
  It's almost like this shield of protection goes up and they just leave.
• 28:22
  Like he his just energy comes through like he's like this blocker.
• 28:26
  So I had an experience at our last house, and I was sound asleep and I heard Casey, and then they'll always wake me up.
• 28:32
  And I open my eyes, and right in front of me, my door, our bedroom door, was cracked open because I am terrified of the dark.
• 28:37
  I'll be totally honest with you guys.
• 28:38
  I have the light come through the bathroom, the light come through the hallway.
• 28:41
  We want light everywhere and it drives my husband crazy, right?
• 28:43
  So I'm sound asleep and there's a man and he steps through and the door's cracked open.
• 28:47
  He had a baseball cap on, and he's staring right at me.
• 28:50
  And I opened my eyes and I'm like thinking, Why isn't this man like walking towards me?
• 28:54
  Where's his weapon?
• 28:55
  Is he gonna like attack me?
• 28:57
  And I'm like trying to wake up my husband.
• 28:58
  I'm like, Adam, Adam, wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up.
• 29:00
  And he opened his eyes.
• 29:01
  I'm like, look, there's a man he's staring at us, like, get him to leave.
• 29:03
  And he looked up and he's like, There's no one there, woman.
• 29:05
  You're crazy.
• 29:06
  Like, there's nobody.
• 29:07
  And I was like, he's right there.
• 29:08
  And then two seconds later, he was gone.
• 29:10
  And so he was like, Adam woke up and he leaves.
• 29:12
  And I was like, Oh, that was a spirit.
• 29:14
  He came through so strong that I genuinely thought it was a human.
• 29:17
  I couldn't decipher.
• 29:18
  Wow.
• 29:18
  And so that terrified me.
• 29:20
  And I was like, what is happening?
• 29:21
  Why is it getting stronger again?
• 29:23
  Yeah.
• 29:23
  Well, that was leading up to 2020.
• 29:25
  And so it makes sense.
• 29:26
  It's like I kind of needed some more of those experiences and things to come through to finally be like, K, so you do need to lean into this.
• 29:32
  You can't avoid it anymore.
• 29:34
  It's just, it's, it's who I am.
• 29:36
  And I was telling a family member who is religious and is worried or concerned that thinks that maybe some darkness could come around me, that I'm opening myself up by doing this energy work right.
• 29:46
  And um, and I was like, I'm thinking, if you had any clue the the amount of times growing up that I would pray for God to take this ability away, like it it terrified me.
• 29:57
  I didn't ask for it.
• 29:58
  It I don't want it, and people do think I'm crazy, and that's okay.
• 30:02
  But um, it took so much courage to come out and publicly say that and then to do my first group reading with like 20 plus people and to do those types of things.
• 30:12
  But what kept me coming back to it, what kept me coming back to it and just um digging deep with leaning into that fear, that whole getting comfortable, feeling uncomfortable, yeah, was the number of people that would just hug me after and we're just all crying together, like case, I needed to hear that message from my dad.
• 30:32
  Or I thought that my brother was still upset with me to know that it wasn't my fault.
• 30:37
  So many different messages that um have just shifted me to where I'm like at this point, I kind of don't care if people believe it or not.
• 30:44
  And I kind of don't care if they think I'm crazy.
• 30:46
  That's fine.
• 30:46
  They can think I'm a witch, they can think I'm bringing in darkness, whatever, because I know what I'm doing is in alignment with God and my path.
• 30:53
  Yeah, 100%.
• 30:54
  And I just gotta say, congratulations and some amazing lift-off moments there for you to be able to come into that knowing.
• 31:01
  And um, one thing that comes up for me is like, and this is a little bit of a deeper conversation from the perspective of like, I believe that we all here, and as we are, like everything had to happen exactly what it had to happen.
• 31:15
  You viewing, you sitting there, me sitting here, everything, everything had to happen exactly how it was to be here.
• 31:22
  And I truly do believe that we have contracts before we come here.
• 31:26
  And and as you go through life, and I can kind of feel this right now, you get to a point where then you understand what your contract is and what you're meant to do here.
• 31:35
  And I feel that we all have a role to play, and I feel that we're all starting to wake up more to what those roles are, and so we can co-create and be able to get to that next level of knowing, that next level of consciousness, that next level of like awakeness.
• 31:48
  And so, um, as an example, if you didn't already go see it, go see it.
• 31:52
  The Michael movie.
• 31:53
  And so my my wife, my daughter, and I went to go watch the new Michael movie.
• 31:56
  My daughter out of nowhere, she's seven, she's like, I love Michael Jackson, but my 19-year-old thinks she's married to him.
• 32:02
  I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 32:06
  Yeah, I'm like, what is going on right now?
• 32:08
  And so um, when I was going through a lot of the stuff, there is there is one of his main goals was to unite and to give love to the world.
• 32:18
  And in and before the accusation, six months before was a Super Bowl, when he did that, he united the world, I want to say 134 million people.
• 32:26
  And then, of course, right, dark side, whatever, you know, speculation.
• 32:30
  I he he get killed, you know.
• 32:32
  Let's be real.
• 32:33
  Yeah, but I I was talking to my wife about the fact there was a contract, and like with him being killed and all the things that happen, I feel is now to help us get to this next level of knowing.
• 32:42
  And it's almost 20 years later since he's been dead.
• 32:44
  And look at this.
• 32:45
  It's just like, what the heck?
• 32:47
  It's just crazy how it comes.
• 32:49
  It's totally shifted.
• 32:49
  It's totally shifted.
• 32:50
  And now people are like, wait, he didn't do those things people said he did.
• 32:53
  There's you know, there's more evidence.
• 32:55
  He was raising the vibrations of the earth, he was bringing more light.
• 32:58
  Yes, he was pouring like he let's heal the world, make it a better place, right?
• 33:02
  That was what he did.
• 33:03
  That's what he talked about, that's what he's saying about.
• 33:05
  And so it is interesting, it's kind of come full circle, even though he's passed.
• 33:08
  People are still shifting and changing their perspective on who he actually he really was.
• 33:14
  Amen.
• 33:14
  Yeah, and the music's in 440 hertz.
• 33:17
  Oh, I love that.
• 33:18
  It's in 440 hertz, yeah.
• 33:19
  I did the research on it.
• 33:20
  So the Hertz is in a resonation of love.
• 33:22
  Fascinating.
• 33:22
  Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
• 33:24
  And the reason why people would pass out in the actual concerts because he was raising the vibration.
• 33:29
  It was so hard, so it was such a powerful consciousness shift that they had pass out because even his moves and everything else was in residence.
• 33:36
  That makes so much sense.
• 33:38
  I play his songs in my playlist in my yoga classes.
• 33:40
  Yeah, I love it.
• 33:42
  If everyone's tired, I'm like, all right, you guys, we gotta put a Michael, he's gonna hype us up.
• 33:46
  Let's absolutely amazing.
• 33:48
  It's absolutely amazing.
• 33:50
  So my daughter, she's probably like three to four years old and we're in the garage, and she says, Who's that man?
• 33:56
  And she automatically saw someone in the garage.
• 33:59
  Um, and then fast forward, uh, I see like a spirit, and I think it could be a darker spirit that's in the kitchen, going from the garage into the kitchen, which is very interesting.
• 34:09
  And one thing that came up for me was is um that, and maybe you know, we can go deeper outside of this show, and um that that there is spirits here that maybe need to be released, like almost like you know, they don't know that they have passed on.
• 34:24
  And what came up for me was it's and it's interesting how everything can be real like relative or relevant.
• 34:31
  Like, so it's my wife, my myself, my daughter, and and for some reason it feels like the same type of energy but a spiritual sense, and it feels like something happened, and and I don't know if if something happened with like a murder or whatever, and so now they're trapped here, but I you can kind of feel that.
• 34:50
  My daughter said she feels something in her room, yeah, and so it's just very interesting.
• 34:54
  And then the cat in the room upstairs that is now called the Zen Den, and we just built it out, so we have like three Airbnbs here do house hacking the whole nine.
• 35:03
  We have the cat in that room in the corner meowing.
• 35:06
  Oh, yeah.
• 35:06
  Animals pick up on something.
• 35:08
  Picking up something and meowing, meowing, meowing.
• 35:10
  So it's very interesting.
• 35:12
  Yeah, it's oh, I could tell you stories for days.
• 35:13
  I was like, as you're talking about the house, and if my son was here, just so whenever I talk to my friends that are open for all this, they're like, Okay, what's your latest?
• 35:20
  What happened this week?
• 35:21
  What's your story?
• 35:22
  We need your episode.
• 35:22
  Because they always say if we had like a camera follow us around, yeah, they'd be shocked at the stuff we do and see and what how we talk.
• 35:28
  Oh, yeah.
• 35:28
  And so, but yeah, going back to the electronic device though, I've had where I finished a class, and when people are meditating, as we were saying, it like raises the vibrations, right?
• 35:36
  And so they're also opening up their chakras.
• 35:39
  And so when I'm standing there, I'm usually just trying to do that and pour love into the space and just keep telling them they're safe.
• 35:46
  You know, I'm I'm sending that energy too.
• 35:47
  Of course.
• 35:48
  Well, I've had a couple experiences just after teaching a class and they finish, and I was like, Oh, someone's uncle is here.
• 35:54
  He he passed in a tragic accident.
• 35:56
  I'm seeing snow and now I'm seeing skis.
• 35:58
  And I'm like, okay, now I gotta shut it down because it's too much, and I have to end class, right?
• 36:02
  So I end the class, they leave and I start mopping up, and it's a hot yoga studio.
• 36:06
  So they're mop, I'm mopping it up, and my music is still on the quiet song for meditation.
• 36:11
  It slowly turns up louder, louder, louder, louder.
• 36:13
  And I was like, okay, you've got to stop messing with it.
• 36:15
  Like, I know you're here, but it's getting louder, louder.
• 36:17
  I'm like, oh my word.
• 36:18
  It was max blasting, full blast that everyone outside the room could hear it.
• 36:22
  And they come in, they're like, is everything okay?
• 36:24
  So I go running over to unplug it.
• 36:26
  And I'm like, just like it, but she knows what I do.
• 36:28
  So I was like, it's just spirit messing with my my device.
• 36:31
  This they're trying to get my attention.
• 36:32
  But I'm like, I'm not gonna go and tell them you're that you're here in the message.
• 36:35
  They've already left, you know.
• 36:37
  I'm like, I'm not gonna do a whole reading.
• 36:39
  So yeah, they do.
• 36:40
  It's how they get our attention.
• 36:42
  It's so, it's so fascinating, like how that whole other side of the process works.
• 36:49
  Like, my grandfather, he passed away and he passed away, and I love cars, and then he only took a shower like once a month, and like the shower turned on, the car was being moved around.
• 36:58
  Like he was just saying, like, hey, like, because I I didn't I don't talk about this a whole lot, but we were eating Mexican food.
• 37:04
  My mom goes to the store, she's going to go get uh heartburn medicine.
• 37:08
  We had like Mexican food, and he was having some heartburn stuff, and he was on the chair, and the chair was a recliner, TV here, TV here, always sit on his lap, and he had two different games, two different baseball games, whatever else.
• 37:19
  And and I would just sit there and he always did flea market stuff and always called me champ and all that type of stuff, and uh, because I was a firstborn son.
• 37:27
  And I was on the couch, and he unfortunately had a massive heart attack and passed away in front of me at that age.
• 37:33
  And I didn't really know what that meant.
• 37:35
  And my parents were like, Are you okay?
• 37:36
  Like, do you understand what that means?
• 37:37
  And I'm like, uh, and um, because so young, and so him playing with the car solidified like, hey, like, you know, I I'm I'm okay, I'm here with you, so and so forth.
• 37:47
  And and so it's just so interesting how some of those things can come up and how like um oh man, it's so it's like trying to connect with you.
• 37:55
  Yeah, do you think do you think it's like to go a little bit deeper into the subject?
• 37:59
  Like, do you feel like it's like something like they haven't quite crossed over yet?
• 38:02
  So it's almost like an unfinished business, quote unquote.
• 38:05
  That's not what I usually get.
• 38:07
  It's more that they are showing up to let you know that they're with you and they're supporting you.
• 38:11
  Like I call it this, you have an army of angels, all of us do.
• 38:14
  So it's more like pouring their love and support into you.
• 38:18
  Um, and so when they show up, it's just a reminder like, hey, I got you, like I got your back.
• 38:22
  I'm here with you.
• 38:23
  Got it.
• 38:23
  So it's usually just in full um support and love.
• 38:26
  Or a lot of times when I am doing readings, it's um a lot of the times it is like an apology.
• 38:32
  So I've even had some where um they didn't have a great relationship, let's say with their father, and I'm like, well, dad is coming through.
• 38:37
  Well, he left me when I was three.
• 38:39
  And I'm like, well, even though you didn't really get to know him, yeah, he now can see things that he couldn't see when he was in the physical form.
• 38:45
  And he wants to try and make it better because they still are trying to progress, they are still trying to grow and learn on the other side.
• 38:51
  It doesn't end.
• 38:52
  You don't just automatically pass over and all of a sudden you're you're incredible and you're perfect in heaven.
• 38:58
  Yeah, like everything's great and you're just this unconditionally loving being.
• 39:02
  Like that's not how it works.
• 39:03
  You still have your personality and your struggles that you had here.
• 39:06
  You just don't have the physical body to work on them.
• 39:08
  And so they get excited when they see there's someone that can be like um a channel for them, communication to be their spokespiece in a way.
• 39:15
  And so they will show up, like, hey, no, I I want to work on this.
• 39:18
  Like I'm trying to continue progressing on the other side.
• 39:21
  And she needs to keep progressing on this side, but I can't because she doesn't know that I want to apologize for what I did or didn't do, you know?
• 39:28
  And so usually when they show up, it's either um if you're going through something, you're struggling, and you need that support and love, or they they want to apologize for something.
• 39:37
  Wow.
• 39:37
  I mean, I kind of want to go a little bit down the rabbit hole here because so I've done um, and some people like the term, some people don't like the term past life progression.
• 39:46
  Uh-huh.
• 39:47
  And so I got into that two different times I went through the exercise.
• 39:51
  One, um, his name's Aaron.
• 39:53
  He's uh on YouTube, really cool dude.
• 39:55
  He's in Los Angeles, and he works with a guy who focuses on that.
• 39:58
  And it was a two-day online virtual event.
• 40:00
  And I went through that and found out I was a female, and I was having fair.
• 40:06
  This is why I'm a diva.
• 40:07
  Yeah, yeah.
• 40:08
  I was like, what the hell?
• 40:09
  And like I got my throat slit because I was with this outlaw and he was older and all this crazy stuff.
• 40:15
  And then finding out again that I was like a diplomat at a different time and working close by the king, and then some shit went down, and I you know, I was trying to protect my people, and then uh I got I got I got crossed over and I got my throat slit again.
• 40:28
  So I have a lot of stuff at the throat thing, I guess, over the past of generations.
• 40:32
  So it's so interesting to think about.
• 40:34
  And what are your thoughts from the perspective of from your perspective, past life progression?
• 40:39
  Because like like they say like you reincarnate from my understanding from all the teachings and channeled text and what have you.
• 40:45
  We're going deep here.
• 40:46
  This is a total if you're following, you're following.
• 40:48
  If you don't, just go along with the ride here.
• 40:50
  So the difference between past life progression as your soul reincarnates to then um level up to the next level of awareness, whether you want to talk about third, fourth, fifth dimension, versus like being a spirit and trying to still come through during maybe this time in space to have closure or to say I'm sorry, or what have you.
• 41:12
  Like, what's your take on that?
• 41:13
  So this is an interesting topic because growing up uh in my religion, I was taught about pre-existence.
• 41:20
  So, like you, there was this life before you had this physical form, this physical body.
• 41:26
  Um, and then when you pass, that's kind of it.
• 41:29
  And you go on to the other side, you're with your family forever, you know, it's very beautiful.
• 41:34
  And that never resonated with me because I was like, well, what about the child that you hear about that was born into an abusive family?
• 41:40
  And the parents abused her whole life and she did nothing wrong, she didn't deserve it, and then they end up murdering her, and then she just got that one what two to three years of of this earth experience and she's done.
• 41:52
  What happens to her soul?
• 41:53
  She didn't get a chance to learn these life lessons and progress and and know what it's like to feel feel loved by someone unconditionally, and then you know, if she wanted to one day have babies and give birth to someone, like she didn't get to experience all these things.
• 42:06
  Why does why did I get to and she didn't?
• 42:08
  That doesn't make sense because we are all equal.
• 42:10
  No one is above you, no one is up beneath you.
• 42:12
  And so if that's the case, and if it is, and he is an all-loving God, or you want to just believe in divine uh energy and divine presence, then it still comes from a place of love and unconditional love.
• 42:23
  So for me, it was like, well, then you you do get another chance.
• 42:26
  You know what I mean?
• 42:27
  If it's um if he created us that a lot of Christians believe, then um he would want nothing but the best for you, just like a parent would.
• 42:34
  You know, like I give my kids a million chances.
• 42:36
  We'll try it again, babe.
• 42:37
  Let's do it again, try it again.
• 42:39
  And so to me it makes sense.
• 42:40
  And um, I think it is just like lessons learned.
• 42:44
  So you made some wrong choices and you pass on, you get another chance to come back and try to do it right.
• 42:50
  And so it's like you're given these opportunities, you get to choose what you want to do with them.
• 42:54
  And your soul deep down remembers, you know, we have so many interesting quirks.
• 42:58
  Like you're saying the throat stuff.
• 43:00
  I have always walked around barefoot.
• 43:02
  Like since day one, I still hike barefoot.
• 43:04
  I genuinely do.
• 43:05
  And I didn't even know like a foot fetish was a thing.
• 43:07
  Like, truly, I did live in this little tiny bubble.
• 43:09
  I was homeschooled, I grew up religious, I went to a tiny, tiny school, like very naive.
• 43:14
  Yeah.
• 43:15
  And so my kids are like, Mom, you can't, and they call them dogs.
• 43:17
  Like, why are dogs out?
• 43:18
  And I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 43:19
  They're like, You're exposing your dogs to everyone, like, stop walking around barefoot.
• 43:22
  And I'm like, I've always done this.
• 43:24
  Like, I'm sorry if people are weird about feet.
• 43:26
  Like, yeah, I'm like, why have I always done this?
• 43:27
  Well, then I had someone and she did some energy work on me, and I just, I just asked that question.
• 43:32
  I was like, Yeah, I'm kind of curious about this.
• 43:34
  And um why am I so connected to plants?
• 43:36
  What is my fascination with plants and herbs?
• 43:38
  Why have I always gravitated to them?
• 43:41
  And I saw myself in this field of clovers and I was barefoot.
• 43:44
  Okay.
• 43:45
  And I just kept hearing because this was when you did your best work.
• 43:48
  And I was gathering these plants and these clovers, and I was barefoot.
• 43:52
  So I was grounding and connecting to the earth.
• 43:54
  And it's like I intuitively knew I needed to ground and work on my root chakras so I could stay fully present.
• 44:00
  In my body because my crown is so open because I see and feel and hear so much.
• 44:05
  So I need to be grounding.
• 44:06
  So I just naturally was like, I take shoes off everywhere.
• 44:10
  In fact, we even ended up going to the doctor's office on accident barefoot.
• 44:12
  Me and my kids, we got there to pick up a supplement.
• 44:15
  And I was like, you guys, wait, none of you have shoes?
• 44:17
  They're like, Well, no, I thought you were yeah.
• 44:20
  It's like, I thought you were gonna run in mom.
• 44:21
  I'm like, I don't how my shoe, none of us had our shoes.
• 44:24
  So I had to go in there and like, hey, I'm sorry, I know it's gross.
• 44:26
  I got my dogs out, like showing my feet, but I need to pick this up.
• 44:30
  And so I I can't help it.
• 44:32
  I have always done that.
• 44:34
  And I think it is just I've had many lives of going everywhere barefoot.
• 44:38
  Yeah.
• 44:38
  I think I don't know.
• 44:40
  That's so absolutely amazing.
• 44:41
  No, I I love that.
• 44:42
  And that's where I feel like I'm just gonna say it.
• 44:45
  I'm gonna say it from the perspective of a perspective, take it, leave it, whatever.
• 44:50
  That's why I feel that LDS has it set up the way they do, so you can stay in this sheltered existence with individuals that are all a part of the same thing, where majority of the families are happy and healthy and whole, and there's multiple kids, and so so it all makes sense.
• 45:07
  But but until you start to, and it's hard not to, there's seven billion people in this world, you start seeing outside perspectives, like you said, and then it gets gets you to question like, hold on, what's going on here?
• 45:18
  And that's where that's where the dichology is, is that like it was developed by a man who you know what I'm saying?
• 45:25
  This was not something that was developed from, you know, like the Bible has been rewritten, you know.
• 45:31
  So that's where I feel like you have to be kind of pick and choosey of you know what that looks like.
• 45:36
  Um, and putting bitcoins on that, I want to get into your work a little bit more because there's something that you said that you said that intuitively you knew when you did your best work, you're in the field with the clovers and you had your feet on the ground, and intuitively your soul knew that because that helped you ground to get more present within your body.
• 45:55
  And a lot of what your work had I was reading what you put down for everything when you got uh everything set up for the show, and that's a grounding map, by the way.
• 46:03
  Oh, I love that.
• 46:04
  Um that we had we had uh light energy guy on.
• 46:07
  His name is Jake.
• 46:08
  You gotta watch his episode, and he came in here with his MF8 reader, and he had these type of glasses on, so I put these on to the nervous system to relax, and then he I have one over there, but I didn't have these, so now I have these over here.
• 46:19
  So working on, yeah, so that way the office can be it's it's tech, but it's also it's a whole zen bigger.
• 46:25
  It's a private zen too.
• 46:26
  This is a rocket ship.
• 46:28
  I love this, yeah.
• 46:28
  Yeah, okay.
• 46:29
  And this is charge that charges your water if you put that on there.
• 46:32
  So incredible.
• 46:33
  So, what is something that you see or you feel or or comes up for you from the perspective when someone's not really in their body?
• 46:41
  Is it is there a common thread or a story you can tell with us?
• 46:46
  And and maybe our viewers and listeners can can maybe relate to this and uh want to potentially either use your services or look out for help from them for wherever they're located.
• 46:55
  You know, yeah, that's a great question.
• 46:57
  A lot of people, I feel like the clients that I've observed have a hard time laying still and um allowing me to kind of guide them through sometimes I'll do a little guided visualization for meditation to get them to drop in because I can feel if they're not really there.
• 47:14
  But lots of the times it is because of trauma.
• 47:17
  They don't feel safe in their body.
• 47:19
  And so to lay there and just you feel vulnerable in a way, you know, um, it takes a lot of courage.
• 47:27
  And um usually it goes back to some memory, something that happened that they don't feel safe in their body to really get in their body.
• 47:35
  It's like that whole disassociating.
• 47:37
  And so they want to get up, they want to move, and it's usually the people that have a hard time meditating and slower uh yoga practices like yin, where you have to hold the postures longer.
• 47:47
  Um, usually it goes back, it usually goes back to that.
• 47:50
  And I end up spending more time on their root chakra.
• 47:52
  So getting them to feel safe, feeling connected, feeling grounded.
• 47:56
  Um, and it is a really cool experience.
• 47:59
  I have had some clients that um were not open for any of this work, but they were in a lot of pain, had a lot of different emotional things coming up that they couldn't sort through in therapy and thought, you know, why not?
• 48:09
  Let's give it a try.
• 48:11
  And to see them respond the way they do, just even after their first session, is the most incredible thing to witness.
• 48:18
  It's very, very humbling.
• 48:19
  It's uh it's so hard to put to words.
• 48:22
  It's it's really, really beautiful because it's like working with energy and with Reiki.
• 48:27
  Um the body knows how to heal.
• 48:30
  So it's like, um Should I explain what Reiki is?
• 48:34
  I feel like that might make more sense for people that don't know.
• 48:36
  Let's go on to it.
• 48:37
  Sorry, yeah, I'm backtracking a bit.
• 48:39
  You're totally fine because we have plenty of time.
• 48:40
  Okay, so Reiki is a um energy medicine or like a biofilled therapy, it's also been called.
• 48:46
  And it originated in Japan.
• 48:48
  So you could say it's a form of Japanese healing modality.
• 48:50
  Okay.
• 48:51
  It started in like the 1920s um by a Buddhist monk, Dr.
• 48:54
  Makaosui.
• 48:55
  And um, when you're doing Reiki, like the idea behind it, the concept is that you take yourself into this state of balance.
• 49:02
  Okay.
• 49:03
  And in order to get there, you have to set the ego aside, like the subjective self and put the ego aside to be able to become almost like a vessel.
• 49:12
  Okay.
• 49:12
  And so it's not about you or the outcome, uh, any expectation.
• 49:16
  It's just about becoming this vessel and pouring in that life force energy, that chi.
• 49:21
  And so, because if there's imbalances in the energetic field and your energy centers, then it can eventually lead to health issues, whether it's mental or physical.
• 49:30
  Yep.
• 49:31
  And so um to so when I am working with someone who has a hard time being in their body, um, I really have to remove it, sounds weird, but the mother in me because I can feel their pain and sometimes I'll see and hear different traumas that childhood things that happen to them um or in their adulthood.
• 49:51
  And I want to come in and I will shift almost out of being that vessel.
• 49:55
  And I want to come in and just like scoop them up, you know, put my hands around them and just hug them, hold them, and connect to their heart chakra and really help them.
• 50:02
  And I have to take a step back and be like, no, that's ego.
• 50:05
  So when you hear people say ego, it doesn't mean it's like arrogant and egotistical trying to like fix something.
• 50:10
  Yeah, ego is just wanting to um change something or be in charge of it or or fix it.
• 50:18
  Take responsibility of yeah, yeah, and wanting to fix it, even if it's coming from a loving place, it's still ego.
• 50:23
  So then I'll have to take a step back, put that aside, and just be a vessel.
• 50:27
  Wow.
• 50:28
  Also explain it as like, well, and my cousin, she gave me this great analogy.
• 50:31
  It's almost like we can all be standing underneath the sun and we all can feel that beautiful light and the warmth and it's like invigorating, right?
• 50:37
  And you feel so good and warm under the sun.
• 50:40
  But if I were to take a magnifying glass and really focus that light and energy, it's going to be concentrated, right?
• 50:47
  So it's like energy flows where attention goes.
• 50:50
  So if my attention and intention is to pour that light, that life force energy, and I am like that magnifying glass, but just a vessel, then it it kind of will be able to move through those energy centers, which also connect to physical systems in the body.
• 51:06
  Yeah.
• 51:06
  And so that can kind of go back to that part where if there's dis-ease in the body, that eventually can lead to disease.
• 51:13
  And so there can be dis-ease in your energetic body.
• 51:16
  Like I'll explain it.
• 51:17
  There's different levels to the body, and no one really told me this, or I didn't really read it.
• 51:21
  It just made sense to me.
• 51:22
  Like I could see there's the emotional body, mental body, energetic body, and it's all connected to the physical body.
• 51:28
  But we just feel it in our physical form usually.
• 51:32
  And so, say you have had back pain forever, you've got this low back pain, you've been to every doctor, no one can help you, you've had it usually, right?
• 51:40
  Yeah, you've had injections in your back, like all these things in medication, nothing's working.
• 51:45
  And um, then you go and get some of this work done and you realize it's because you haven't been feeling supported your entire life.
• 51:50
  Your parents didn't support you, your partner doesn't support you, therefore you can't support yourself.
• 51:54
  And it's more of a an emotional imbalance in the body, and you're feeling it physically.
• 52:00
  And so I've had quite a few clients come with those types of things.
• 52:04
  Um, I had one client that he was using a walker to get around lots and lots of pain through his right side, his right hip, and um had had back issues his his whole life, exactly what I'm talking about.
• 52:17
  And um, I when I worked on him, so I'll look at the body and the left side is the feminine energetically, it's the feminine side, the right side is the masculine side.
• 52:25
  And as I was working on him, it was his right hip that's causing the most amount of pain.
• 52:28
  And then it was kind of radiating to his lumbar spine, his low back.
• 52:31
  But I kept being pulled to the right side, the right hip, low back and hip feeling supported.
• 52:36
  And so I was getting a lot through the masculine side.
• 52:38
  Yeah, he had a lot of things come up from his childhood, like feeling abandonment from his his father, and then his stepdad wasn't great.
• 52:46
  And so all these different things coming through the masculine side and um through fathers, like father heart wound.
• 52:52
  And we did a lot of work around that.
• 52:54
  By his third session, he came in without using his walker.
• 52:58
  He didn't even need to use his brace.
• 53:00
  He had a brace.
• 53:02
  Yeah, it was it was really, really beautiful, and it had nothing to do with me.
• 53:06
  It was just again becoming like that vessel and trying to step into a place of balance and set my ego aside so that I would be able to show up to support him because his body knew what to do.
• 53:16
  Yes, you know, God designed it to where you can naturally heal.
• 53:20
  That is, it's an embodies such an incredible, um, intricate uh form to be able to heal naturally organically.
• 53:27
  You don't even, you know, necessarily need a bunch of different things.
• 53:30
  No.
• 53:31
  Yeah, no, what you just said was like wow, like that was like the embodiment and the essence of what we're doing here.
• 53:39
  Yeah, because to have the catalyst for people to understand from the perspective of a non-invasive uh just go just go try Casey out.
• 53:50
  Let's go try, you know, it's I think so many people out there don't know what they don't know.
• 53:54
  Yeah, and to stumble upon something like this for then to be like, what?
• 53:58
  The issues are in the tissues?
• 53:59
  Yeah, like the body is trying to send me signals because there's there's things that I need to work on internally.
• 54:06
  How is that even what do you mean?
• 54:07
  I just take I just take some painkillers.
• 54:09
  I'm fine.
• 54:10
  Yeah, I'll be fine.
• 54:12
  A couple more pills.
• 54:13
  Yeah, it's it's so fascinating to me how everything is interconnected and how the body is it's it's like it's it's very intelligent.
• 54:23
  And when we slow down and stop the alcohol or the marijuana or the pain pills or the cigarettes and all the things, energy drinks, and we just sit with self, like I'm at a point now where I'm like eating something, and my body is like it's not going down so well.
• 54:39
  My body's like, yeah, you can feel it.
• 54:41
  You can feel it.
• 54:41
  Your body's like, I don't want this in me.
• 54:44
  It's so interesting, it's so interesting.
• 54:46
  Yeah, and uh because food has energy.
• 54:48
  It does food.
• 54:49
  And if it was a plant that has energy, and then you cook it and then you eat it, and you if you mix that plant with carbs or sugar, it changes the energy around it, and then your body responds to it, you know, it's it's all interconnected, which is really really fascinating.
• 55:04
  So, so going through this work, like because you you take a different approach, and so you're multifaceted.
• 55:11
  And so when you first studied, you were studying just Reiki?
• 55:15
  Yeah, it was just Reiki, and Reiki was just focusing on the chakras, those energy centers, those seven main chakras.
• 55:21
  Yeah, and so that was it.
• 55:23
  And I would just work with those, and and but then it kind of led me just intuitively to do different things.
• 55:30
  Yeah, and I was like, it's not really just these energy centers.
• 55:33
  I also want to work with the meridians.
• 55:35
  So, like you can say, um, you know, qi, they work a lot with Chinese medicine, qi and the meridians, and in yoga, like we're saying, it's prana, it's breath, it's that life force energy, it's all the same thing.
• 55:46
  So I felt like we needed to bring in these different modalities to really um create some healing and relief for people.
• 55:53
  Yeah.
• 55:54
  Because everyone's gonna respond to different things.
• 55:56
  Myself as a musician, I really respond to music, always have.
• 56:00
  And um, so it made sense to work with frequencies.
• 56:02
  And so I use my tuning forks.
• 56:04
  And so I do a lot with um vibration therapy.
• 56:07
  And I so it has, I put a tiny, I have a wood base and then a rubber, and it goes on the base of my um weighted tuning fork.
• 56:14
  And I'll place it in different parts of the body.
• 56:16
  I found myself just intuitively, there's a spot right here on the left side, right under your collarbone, that you you tend to store a lot of um uh heartbreak and grief there.
• 56:26
  And I didn't know why I was going there.
• 56:28
  I would just naturally go there with my tuning fork and then I would send some qi and and healing light and energy there.
• 56:34
  And then as I would do that, more information would come up.
• 56:37
  And I was like, oh, she lost her mother.
• 56:40
  And then more things would come through.
• 56:41
  And so um it's it's fascinating how the body communicates.
• 56:46
  So I try to just show up in this space of I'm open for whatever you need.
• 56:52
  And a lot of times with Reiki, they'll teach you to start at the root, and you start at the root and this methodical system moving up through the chakras.
• 56:59
  Sometimes I'm starting at the heart.
• 57:01
  And I feel like if I can get the heart and I can get access there and get the heart meridian fired up and get everything moving through heart chakra, then it's going to help push it, send it to other energy centers in the body.
• 57:13
  And so sometimes I'll just start there.
• 57:15
  If a client comes in and I can already feel that they are very like analytical, they're type A, they want to get stuff done.
• 57:20
  I'm gonna spend more time at their crown.
• 57:22
  And so trying to find that balance there and calming it down so that they can really get in their body.
• 57:28
  So it's it, I really do switch it up, it just depending.
• 57:31
  And sometimes I will give um herbal recommendations after if they're open for it.
• 57:35
  I have seen parasites on people when I'm working over their solar plexus and I'm like, I, and we'll get done.
• 57:40
  I'm like, I have a feeling you might not be open for like, say, a naturopath or things like that, but here's what I saw, and I'm gonna leave it with you.
• 57:47
  And so I'll give them some recommendations for a parasite cleanse they can do, and they'll come back like a month later and be like, case, my stomach issues aren't gone.
• 57:54
  And I did, I passed parasites.
• 57:56
  And so it's just I tried to add different things that I have studied over the years because I've studied herbs since I was little.
• 58:03
  I say my mom is like the original witch doctor.
• 58:05
  So I grew up with herbs.
• 58:06
  I never went to the doctor.
• 58:07
  Like we did not ever go to the doctor.
• 58:09
  I went to the doctor one time when my ear was bleeding because I had a horrible ear infection.
• 58:13
  Like that was it, and I was a teenager, you know.
• 58:15
  Otherwise, my mom just took care of us at home, and so that's what I was used to.
• 58:18
  I love I love how you've switched things up from the perspective of because you're so well diverse, you can then pivot the way that you need to to help them in a way that's going to better serve them because you know, we are talking here within this episode of things that can be woo-woo for some people.
• 58:36
  Oh, yeah, or not quite understand the um concepts or you know, what we're really diving into here.
• 58:43
  And that's where I feel like there needs to be more of a platform that really does dive into this from the perspective of a natural conversation that gives people the opportunity to just take it, leave it, and just enjoy a conversation.
• 58:58
  And then, and then you know, the resonation thing.
• 59:00
  I think anyone who's listening, if you can resonate or feels good, then that's something that is on the right, you're on the right track, and you know, maybe go deeper into that, which is awesome.
• 59:11
  Um, let's go a little bit deeper into.
• 59:13
  So if someone was like watching and they're interested and they want to go through this process with you, like what does a typical session look like?
• 59:20
  How long does it take?
• 59:21
  What's the investment commitment?
• 59:22
  Curious for myself and also no one listening.
• 59:25
  Yeah, so um typically it's about a 75-minute session total.
• 59:28
  I will usually spend around 60 minutes and then we'll have like a 15-minute depending conversation.
• 59:33
  Sometimes it goes a little longer.
• 59:35
  Um, you can also schedule for like an if you have a specific area, like you want to do like a shorter, isolated session, that's an option.
• 59:42
  It's about 40 minutes.
• 59:43
  I recommend the 60.
• 59:44
  Um, but you know, everyone's budget is different.
• 59:46
  Totally respect and understand that.
• 59:48
  And so you'll come into the office, you can schedule online or you can call and schedule.
• 59:52
  And um I will start out typically with I use some aromatherapy.
• 59:57
  You'll lay down onto the bed.
• 59:58
  I kind of call it's almost like an energetic massage.
• 1:00:00
  So you're leaning on a massage table and you have your sheet and everything comfy and an eye pillow.
• 1:00:04
  And then um, I'll start out with some aromatherapy and sometimes I do some breath work, just depending on kind of how you're feeling.
• 1:00:09
  If I feel like we need to spend more time with breath work, I can do that.
• 1:00:12
  And then I'll use um my essential oils, some aromatherapy, to really help you relax and and settle in.
• 1:00:18
  Sometimes I'll do some guided imagery.
• 1:00:21
  Um and then if I have their consent and they're comfortable with gentle touch, then you might feel me touch your shoulders and just help you coach you through, cue you through your breath.
• 1:00:32
  Um, and then the tuning forks will come out and I'm playing uh high uh frequency binarial beats in the background.
• 1:00:39
  And my playlist, I try to have them with the different um frequencies, different chakras and um flute music, just very relaxing, like music.
• 1:00:50
  And so sometimes I'll cue you through if certain things come up.
• 1:00:52
  I have had some um come up where I'll get certain ages and things that happen in that age, and I'll cue you through it's different every time.
• 1:01:01
  And so sometimes we'll get done with the session.
• 1:01:03
  They're like, where did you like what what did you say?
• 1:01:06
  And I'm like, I honestly don't even remember.
• 1:01:07
  It's like it wasn't someone was telling me what to say.
• 1:01:10
  I know it sounds crazy, but it's like I don't remember every time because I try to just stay open, like, what do you need?
• 1:01:14
  Because it's not about me.
• 1:01:15
  So whatever is coming through is for you.
• 1:01:18
  And I've had some where it's like, take yourself back to age 12, 13, 14 and be in your bedroom.
• 1:01:24
  What happened for you then?
• 1:01:25
  What parent did you need to show up that you didn't have?
• 1:01:28
  You're gonna show up as yourself now, pouring that love into your teenage years.
• 1:01:32
  You know, so different things like that.
• 1:01:34
  And when I can get them to emotionally, uh, mentally, energetically go there, I'm able to release any heaviness or blocks through those energy centers or parts of the body.
• 1:01:45
  Um, so sometimes I will, I do do it different than other practitioners.
• 1:01:49
  There's it's interesting to go on.
• 1:01:50
  I'm on a Facebook group um with Reiki uh practitioners, and some of them are very strict on you do not talk in a session.
• 1:01:57
  And you start at this chakra, you work your way here.
• 1:02:00
  It's very Reiki.
• 1:02:02
  So, yes, mine is Reiki, but mine is also more energy work because I'm gonna intuitively go and do what you need.
• 1:02:09
  And some people have said, I really appreciate you cueing me through that because I couldn't settle down.
• 1:02:13
  My mind was racing.
• 1:02:14
  I needed someone to talk to me and you get me into it.
• 1:02:17
  Other people I can feel, they just come in, they're dropped in.
• 1:02:19
  I'm not gonna say a word unless I feel like they need it.
• 1:02:21
  It could be quiet the entire session.
• 1:02:23
  So it, you know, it just differs and depends on each person.
• 1:02:27
  Um, but I love it.
• 1:02:29
  I love it so much.
• 1:02:30
  I mean, it sounds so amazing, and it also sounds like a little bit of on your part, channeling and almost like a perspective of like channeling them from the perspective of what they need to hear, and it's almost like a co-creation kind of really cool like vibe, and and it sounds like something super, super interesting that like I'd be open to too.
• 1:02:55
  Cause like that's the thing for me, is like when things come up or I I I feel things or what have you.
• 1:03:01
  I'm like, why is that coming up?
• 1:03:02
  Why is this thought coming up?
• 1:03:04
  And it's stuff that like maybe you'd be like, I'm not even committed to that.
• 1:03:07
  Why is it even coming up for me?
• 1:03:08
  And it's interesting.
• 1:03:10
  I I personally look at everything as just an opportunity to learn and grow, and it's a challenge for me to be able to go deeper into why is it coming up for me?
• 1:03:20
  I never look at anything negative, I always look at a positive situation, curious curiosity, right?
• 1:03:26
  Curious George here to see what I could potentially understand, get through, what have you.
• 1:03:31
  Um, like this show.
• 1:03:32
  Like we've never met.
• 1:03:34
  Uh this isn't scripted.
• 1:03:36
  Like we didn't even talk really on Instagram.
• 1:03:38
  I'm I'm I'm 50-50.
• 1:03:40
  I think the team is the one that actually scouted and had you join us today.
• 1:03:45
  Uh um, so we can have this co-creation opportunity.
• 1:03:48
  And for me, I just like you, just want to be a vessel to be able to leverage all the things that I've been so blessed to achieve to then get your message out there.
• 1:03:57
  And who knows needs to hear this.
• 1:03:58
  And even if it's a few people, fantastic.
• 1:04:00
  But yeah, absolutely.
• 1:04:02
  This is legacy.
• 1:04:03
  Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
• 1:04:04
  People were gonna be like, yes.
• 1:04:06
  You know, that was the catalyst that changed everything and just really pushed things to the next level.
• 1:04:11
  So do you have like when you think about what you're doing, like, is there any type of like goals, aspirations, a certain amount of people you really want to help?
• 1:04:21
  Or is it just like, are you flowing through this process?
• 1:04:24
  Um, no, I would eventually love, like, if I'm manifesting and putting it out there, I would love to have my own wellness clinic one day.
• 1:04:31
  Wow.
• 1:04:31
  And I would love to be hosting retreats.
• 1:04:34
  And I would love to do more, like I've done group um Reiki sessions.
• 1:04:38
  And so sound bath with group Reiki after.
• 1:04:41
  I would love to be offering more of that because I do understand um, you know, some people are strapped for cash and they want to come and do this, but budget doesn't allow.
• 1:04:48
  I've been there, I get it.
• 1:04:49
  Yeah, and so if I can give something that's more um in their price point and affordable and it's a group setting, then you know, I just I would love that.
• 1:04:58
  But yeah, long term, I would love to be able to have a space and have other practitioners there, all different forms of healing, you know, have an acupuncturist thing and just have the sound healing going all day.
• 1:05:08
  Like there's just so many different things I would eventually love to do with that.
• 1:05:12
  Um, my schedule has been growing a lot.
• 1:05:14
  So I'm trying to figure out how to find that balance uh for myself because I'm running from place to place.
• 1:05:20
  I'm teaching so many classes at two different um studios and um I'm still doing hair.
• 1:05:25
  So I Oh wow, really?
• 1:05:27
  Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  So I'm sometimes I'm working like 10, 12 hour days, and then in between my clients, I'm running my kids where they need to be.
• 1:05:32
  Um, I'll have some days where in the morning it is kind of fun, but everyone's like, how are you shifting your energy and direction so fast?
• 1:05:38
  I could take a my kids to school and then come home and do a haircut, get ready and go to the office and do a Reiki session and come home and set up my space to do a virtual reading and then have another haircut that night or go teach a class that night at the studio.
• 1:05:50
  And so it could be something different every day.
• 1:05:52
  And I do love it.
• 1:05:53
  Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  But I would love to shift and kind of pull back more from doing hair.
• 1:05:57
  Yeah.
• 1:05:57
  So really just being in this world with these different.
• 1:06:01
  What do you think the biggest thing is holding you back from leaving and getting away from hair?
• 1:06:05
  My clients, I tried to retire.
• 1:06:06
  So this past year, I was like, you guys, it's been 21 years.
• 1:06:09
  Your girl is retiring.
• 1:06:10
  We're done.
• 1:06:11
  I love you all.
• 1:06:12
  Like, well, yeah, retire.
• 1:06:13
  Like, that's totally fine.
• 1:06:14
  But except for me, right?
• 1:06:14
  You're gonna keep me.
• 1:06:15
  I'm like, girl, every client has said that to me.
• 1:06:17
  And then I feel bad.
• 1:06:18
  And I'm like, well, it's decent money and I do love connecting with them and it's quick and easy, you know.
• 1:06:24
  Um, so I but I have cut way back.
• 1:06:27
  I'm not taking new clients for as far as hair goes.
• 1:06:29
  And so um, yeah, it is hard and it's hard for me to say no.
• 1:06:33
  You know what, though, doing hair has helped me a lot.
• 1:06:35
  Um, with uh I'm not great at charging what I should be charging.
• 1:06:39
  And so my clients will even tell me they're like, Okay, stop.
• 1:06:41
  What's with your 1980s prices?
• 1:06:43
  They'll end up tipping me like$50 because they're like, You're so underpriced.
• 1:06:47
  That's crazy.
• 1:06:48
  Wow.
• 1:06:48
  And so I think at least I kind of needed that time to start knowing my worth and charging that, you know.
• 1:06:57
  And so it's it's been a whole process, but yeah, I'm gonna be focusing more on building my clientele even even further with um Reiki and then going to different Airbnbs and retreats and doing sound tailing and that's amazing.
• 1:07:11
  Yeah, so I'll have to uh connect you with the wife because she has uh and she just got done last week with these amazing women that come together and they co-curate in a space where then there's like a videographer and a photographer, and it's like a co-creation where they're going to going through their modalities, and the videographer and photographer is going through the process of understanding and taking videos and pictures of each one so people can all be able to understand how each of the women do what they do, and then and then can you know pay for services, buy my wife's tea, whatever, and then it's it's it's a content day so they can get content for their social media.
• 1:07:47
  So my wife, she's like, they're gonna do and and uh she can probably get you connected with the girls in the group, they're gonna do a sound bowl float down the salt river on paddle boards, so which is gonna be super sick.
• 1:08:03
  So so you two are gonna hit it off.
• 1:08:06
  And I even talked to my wife about it too.
• 1:08:07
  It's like, you know, what is what is your value?
• 1:08:10
  What is yourself worth?
• 1:08:11
  Like, what does that look like?
• 1:08:12
  Because you know, even with lifts off that sponsors our show here, it's like, okay, we're we were charging like way back when like maybe 200, like$99 a month.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah, and then now we're all the way up to like$5,000 a month.
• 1:08:23
  Wow.
• 1:08:23
  You know, and so you start to you start to shift and you're like, holy cow, like you know, you don't need to have so many, you can have a lot less and then and then charge a lot more.
• 1:08:33
  But like if someone wanted to potentially go through a session, like what does a 75-minute session typically cost someone?
• 1:08:39
  So for 75 minutes, it's uh$129.
• 1:08:42
  Okay.
• 1:08:42
  You can also book packages or uh buy packages.
• 1:08:45
  I've got packages of three and six, and that reduces the price per session.
• 1:08:49
  There you go.
• 1:08:49
  And I do tell my clients, if you are able to do three sessions and you can do like say even every other week, I have noticed time and time again the clients that are consistent, they don't just do like a one-off.
• 1:09:00
  If you come and buy that third session, it it's really powerful.
• 1:09:03
  It's almost like your body is comfortable, like we've been here before.
• 1:09:07
  We know how this goes.
• 1:09:09
  And so you can settle in even faster and we start to move things quicker, if that makes sense.
• 1:09:14
  And so a lot more um work happens, especially by that third session.
• 1:09:18
  So I do encourage that.
• 1:09:19
  I'm not to be salsy, that's just genuinely what I have observed with clients that are consistent.
• 1:09:25
  Yeah.
• 1:09:25
  Um, well, what I've learned too is that like on the salesied subject matter, it's like once you get to a point, and this is like an aha moment that I had this week with my company.
• 1:09:34
  It's like once you get to a point where like, you know what you're doing, you know the value, you have the testimonials, like you are now like that coach.
• 1:09:42
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:43
  Like you're that coach, you're that practitioner.
• 1:09:45
  And like it if they know your value, which you've already proved time and time again, then it is what it is, and that's it.
• 1:09:52
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:53
  And that's exactly what I had to go through because I'm just like, hold on here.
• 1:09:56
  And I was going through a lot of like, because right now it's bit is busy for agents.
• 1:10:00
  I work with real estate professionals, so it's not busy for marketing.
• 1:10:02
  Like, they're not thinking about getting a website and doing marketing.
• 1:10:05
  They're like, okay, kids are out of out of school, we're buying, we're selling, we're going on trips, all that type of stuff.
• 1:10:10
  And so I'm like, all right, like coming from a consultant, like, and we know our value and they're coming highly referred, take it or leave it.
• 1:10:18
  This is the results.
• 1:10:19
  Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:10:21
  And so, so I'm a customer and uh I'm gonna come and I'm gonna do the three sessions.
• 1:10:26
  So I'm just gonna put that out there.
• 1:10:28
  I'd be so excited to have you.
• 1:10:29
  And then I would love to be able to share the experience with you all out there.
• 1:10:34
  Um, you know, it is the lift-off experience, and you know, if we had more time and all that type of stuff, you know, maybe we'll do this, do it again, and maybe we can do a podcast where we can do a session.
• 1:10:43
  And who knows, maybe after a couple sessions, if you want to do a live one, you know, maybe we could use the studio and yeah, that'd be amazing.
• 1:10:51
  It's up to you.
• 1:10:51
  I don't know how that works, and but I'm totally open because I was talking to my wife, and she wants to go and she wants to try a DMT.
• 1:10:59
  And so one of the girls that you're probably gonna meet in her group, she does the guided DMT and she's she's from um Oregon.
• 1:11:05
  She moved out here just like six months ago, and so she does it's only a couple minutes, and she does this guided DMT session to really go into uh it's all about relieving the ego.
• 1:11:17
  So she releases the ego, and then you go through this whatever it is that comes up that you need to learn um process.
• 1:11:24
  And so she's like connecting me with all the girls to be on this show, and then she wants to do it together, and you can do it as a couple.
• 1:11:30
  So I said, let's do it together.
• 1:11:31
  And I said, let's get her on the show, and then I want to do it live with you guys all and and and be a vessel to then show you know what it looks like and what have you, because I feel like I feel like the thing that's missing that I hope everyone can eventually get to is like life is like a video game.
• 1:11:48
  Like, why can't it not be a video game?
• 1:11:50
  Why can't it not be like you said?
• 1:11:51
  You never know what to expect.
• 1:11:53
  Sometimes you're doing hair, then you have to chopping up your kids.
• 1:11:56
  You know, and as long as you have, you know, your husband and your family, everyone supports, it's like, you know, you have not to lose.
• 1:12:03
  Yeah.
• 1:12:03
  You have the game.
• 1:12:04
  Yeah, to just be open to it.
• 1:12:06
  Yeah.
• 1:12:06
  You're open to trying new experiences and being willing to kind of like self-reflect.
• 1:12:10
  Um, the the ones that show up with just open mind.
• 1:12:13
  They're like, okay, I'm maybe I'm nervous or I've never tried this and I'm just curious.
• 1:12:17
  Um, they tend to fill the most.
• 1:12:19
  I have had some clients, uh, a lot of times with men, that um they automatically start working on them and I will literally fill a wall.
• 1:12:28
  And I'm like, okay, so we're gonna do some more things.
• 1:12:30
  And so I'll take a step back and see what they need and kind of fill it out, maybe some breath work, maybe something else.
• 1:12:35
  And then eventually almost like start to peel back these layers.
• 1:12:38
  And when we get done, I'm like, so were you kind of nervous about this?
• 1:12:41
  I feel like you've kind of put up walls.
• 1:12:42
  You tend to do that a lot in your life.
• 1:12:43
  They're like, yeah, actually, I'm like, you have a hard time trusting people because this and this happened, you know.
• 1:12:48
  And so we'll start to break it down.
• 1:12:49
  And I'm like, okay, you book two more sessions.
• 1:12:51
  And now that we've gotten through that, we can like really get in there, you know?
• 1:12:55
  So yeah, if you can show up, just open mind.
• 1:12:57
  Like, I'm just here for whatever, you know, and just flow with it.
• 1:13:00
  My wife and I have gone through that, and that's something we're working on is that like we've gone through things in our past, and it's funny how you find someone who can be a partner who then has similar things.
• 1:13:11
  And so uh we're searching right now for our soul family, and you know, it a lot of it has been transactional and and and so moving past transactional and and being more intentional to like build that soul family and like have awesome, just cool opportunities to co-create and get ki kids together and families and barbecues and fourth of July or whatever.
• 1:13:34
  Um, because you can make a big excuse, right?
• 1:13:36
  You're busy.
• 1:13:37
  Yep, you know, you're busy, you got work, you got kids, they got they got they got activities.
• 1:13:42
  I have no time, but then it's just like if you're making up this fun, cool video game, then you gotta make time.
• 1:13:48
  All the time in the world, you have all the time in the world, yeah, and so that's what she's really excited and nervous about with her new girlfriends, and so I think you getting connected would be huge.
• 1:13:56
  Yeah, I would love that.
• 1:13:57
  Um, that's what I'm also doing, and I'm getting more and more connected closer to individuals that I feel like are in the alignment.
• 1:14:03
  Um, because also, too, I think even me for for me personally, it's like what I'm doing is it's very one-off in different ways.
• 1:14:11
  And also, like they say, like you're the five sum of the people you hang out the most.
• 1:14:16
  So then I'm wanting to be conscious and uh not to push anyone away out there who's watching this, or like, I don't wonder he doesn't give me a DM back, but I'm pretty good about DMing people back.
• 1:14:26
  I just certain people, I'm like, I don't know how close I really want them to totally get that be in my specific, because you know, like I don't know, I just there's a certain type of energy and vibe.
• 1:14:35
  And when you come in, like, I would love to get your feedback.
• 1:14:39
  How did you feel when you first came in?
• 1:14:40
  And just like the vibe, just energy.
• 1:14:44
  Totally open.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah, it's just awesome, so beautiful.
• 1:14:46
  Awesome, awesome, cool, cool.
• 1:14:48
  And so, and so yeah, so we'll see.
• 1:14:50
  We'll see how it all kind of unravels before it goes.
• 1:14:53
  So watch it play out.
• 1:14:54
  Yeah, and I'm excited to be able to have this opportunity to co-create to be able to go deeper into all this stuff because you never know, you know, who and what.
• 1:15:02
  So, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna flip the script.
• 1:15:05
  I can't believe it's already an hour and 20 minutes.
• 1:15:07
  I'm gonna flip the script.
• 1:15:08
  So if you were the host of this show, getting into topics, questions, whatever, I would love to just co-create with you here and just give you the opportunity to kind of.
• 1:15:19
  I mean, I know you already gave the viewers and listeners a lot of stuff to think about.
• 1:15:23
  And probably too much.
• 1:15:24
  That's what I was sitting here thinking, and I'm like, shoot, case, what did you say?
• 1:15:27
  Also, I'm feeling like I have um quite a few uh friends and family members that don't know all the things.
• 1:15:34
  I mean, if they listen to the podcast that I did have with my friend, the medium mixology, then they do know that, you know, but a lot of them don't.
• 1:15:42
  Okay, like you're talking like past life stuff.
• 1:15:45
  And it's just it's kind of taboo in the religious world.
• 1:15:49
  And so even though I am a super, I'm an open book and I have no problem being vulnerable, um, it it's hard.
• 1:15:56
  It takes a lot, a lot of like courage because I know I'm I'm gonna have some conversations when this episode comes out, and it's fine.
• 1:16:04
  I'm open for it.
• 1:16:05
  Um, but yeah, it definitely through thinking.
• 1:16:09
  It's funny you say that because my wife was on and then um she didn't open up a hundred percent.
• 1:16:16
  But it it's the hardest when it comes to those that are closest to you, right?
• 1:16:20
  And then you want to open up and you want to be your true, authentic, honest self.
• 1:16:24
  And it's interesting how like we can meet each other, and there is nothing other than what is from this co-creation opportunity.
• 1:16:31
  Yeah, there's no like uh you know, whatever comp uh conceived, perceived notion of of whatever or baggage, or you know, not even saying there's baggage with family, it's just there's this like perceived, there's this like how do you say it, preconceived notion of what is and what should.
• 1:16:48
  And not everyone understands that, like why?
• 1:16:52
  Like, if we were born into this world and all we know is what our mother and father and grandfather and grandmother and then their forefathers and and mothers and so on and so forth have told us, then why wouldn't we want to ask additional questions?
• 1:17:06
  Like and if you don't, there's really no growth, you're gonna stay in that mindset, that path, that little box, yes, and never know what could be, you know.
• 1:17:16
  100%.
• 1:17:17
  It was interesting.
• 1:17:18
  My um I had a really close family member that she was observing me do Reiki on another family member, and she is still very much in the religion.
• 1:17:28
  And um I was aware of her watching it.
• 1:17:31
  I was totally fine with it.
• 1:17:32
  I told her she could.
• 1:17:33
  Um, and then when we got done, she was like, Hey, I need to talk to you.
• 1:17:37
  Uh, something came up when I was watching that and I was like, oh shoot, I was getting worried.
• 1:17:41
  Oh my gosh, I was doing something crazy.
• 1:17:43
  And she's like, you know, I'm realizing you had to leave the religion and that that faith system, that box you were in to be able to do what you were meant to be doing.
• 1:17:54
  And I do firmly believe that everyone has a different path, kind of like what we talked about before.
• 1:17:59
  Um, and I do think there's also divine timing.
• 1:18:02
  And so I don't know that I would have been ready to show up um in the way I show up now with the life experiences I have now, if I would have tried to do this work in my 20s.
• 1:18:11
  I think it would have looked very different.
• 1:18:13
  And so um I I just want to like encourage like your listeners to to at least try to be open and um to really trust yourself.
• 1:18:21
  I think that's the scariest part to like trust those feelings, your intuition, those gut feelings.
• 1:18:26
  And if you want to try something new and something different that's totally out of the box that you're like, oh, no one's gonna accept me if I do it.
• 1:18:32
  Yeah, but say flip it and say, what if they do?
• 1:18:35
  What would it look like?
• 1:18:36
  How would it be if they did accept me and what I want to be doing and my shift in my career path and my different choices?
• 1:18:43
  Um, and at least try to go there.
• 1:18:45
  Yeah.
• 1:18:45
  You know, we get so like stuck in this one way and this is the only way to do it.
• 1:18:49
  And there's so many ways to do it.
• 1:18:51
  And I do believe that everyone is intuitive.
• 1:18:53
  I believe that everyone has different gifts and abilities, spiritual gifts and abilities.
• 1:18:58
  Most of them just haven't tapped into them yet.
• 1:19:00
  So, like you and I are no different than anyone else out there.
• 1:19:02
  We're just trying to lean more into um something that might seem a little different or out of the box because when we do that, we're able to really show up for people in ways that we couldn't before and also show up for ourselves.
• 1:19:14
  It ends up being like a win-win.
• 1:19:16
  Yeah.
• 1:19:16
  You know, it's like I want to pour back and give into you.
• 1:19:18
  And when I do that, it also is pouring back into me.
• 1:19:21
  Like this type of healing is that's why it's hard for me to charge.
• 1:19:25
  Like, and and some people are funny about prices on it or like with readings, especially.
• 1:19:30
  Well, don't you feel we're charging for that?
• 1:19:32
  And I didn't for the longest time.
• 1:19:33
  And I still get people messaging me like, hey, Case, can you tap in?
• 1:19:36
  What do you got for this and this?
• 1:19:37
  And then I end up doing a reading and I don't charge.
• 1:19:39
  Well, that's my that's my time and that's my energy, you know?
• 1:19:43
  And so, like, you you do have to um honor yourself enough to say, you know, actually, I do need to be uh charging for this because I yeah, I gotta have, I gotta live in this 3D world, you know, I've got to pay the bills.
• 1:19:54
  Yes.
• 1:19:54
  Um, but if it could end up being a win-win though, that I feel genuinely feel really good doing it, like how I did with hair all those years and teaching piano to the children, like I it was such a a beautiful thing to for them to feel better when they left my chair or the piano bench, you know, like it's just so beautiful.
• 1:20:11
  I love that.
• 1:20:12
  And I want to add to it from the perspective of think about it like so Casey just said if you can trust your intuition and really feed into that, and we all are mediums in one way or another, imagine if it was God consciousness that was a part of your intuition that led you to do the things that you are called to do, which might be outside that box, but could could lead to something that could turn into being so beautiful.
• 1:20:42
  Like, as an example, sitting here with you right now, co-creating is the most abundant thing I can possibly imagine doing on a Friday afternoon at 256 on May 29th.
• 1:20:55
  Like, this is the coolest fucking thing ever.
• 1:20:58
  Like, it's so amazing.
• 1:21:00
  And we're pouring into each other's cup from a full cup and just like leaving this space after we just pour into all of you and feeling so much more alive and well and just energetic, right?
• 1:21:11
  Because like I'll give you an example.
• 1:21:13
  Yesterday, I'm sitting there and I'm like, all right, um, girls, we're going out to eat.
• 1:21:18
  So we go to oregano's and and and typically, so good, right?
• 1:21:23
  Typically, we just get like pizza and a salad.
• 1:21:25
  Yeah.
• 1:21:25
  But daughter wanted pizza, and I'm like, you know what?
• 1:21:28
  I kind of want like uh meatballs, but I also kind of want like lasagna.
• 1:21:31
  So I'm like, all right, we're gonna get lasagna, we're gonna get the pizza, we're gonna get a meatball with the sausage.
• 1:21:35
  Whole buffet.
• 1:21:36
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:37
  And my wife was overwhelmed.
• 1:21:38
  She's like, I feel overwhelmed right now, right?
• 1:21:41
  And I'm like, and I told the waitress that too, because it was like so much.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah.
• 1:21:45
  But then we had it today for lunch before our show, best leftovers, right?
• 1:21:50
  And then intuitively, for some reason, I was told to tip her$100.
• 1:21:54
  So then I tipped at her$100 on an$88 tab.
• 1:21:59
  And and then I go over to T-Mobile because we're leaving on Tuesday for my nephew who's graduating high school and turning 18.
• 1:22:06
  Nice.
• 1:22:07
  And so he says on the phone, he's like, Oh, um, you know, I probably just want money because I want to get tattoos a little bit later.
• 1:22:13
  I need to get a new phone, whatever, right?
• 1:22:15
  So I said, I said, honey, why don't we get him a phone?
• 1:22:18
  And she's like, Oh, well, you know, money and this and that, and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:22:22
  And and so the thing that you all have to understand, and one thing that my wife and I are working on, is that when you when you manifest things, it doesn't always have to come from the traditional nine to five or from your specific pocketbook, right?
• 1:22:35
  So it's now coming from me.
• 1:22:37
  But we're partners, she's my wife.
• 1:22:39
  So I said, let's get him the phone.
• 1:22:41
  So then, so then intuitively, I go to T-Mobile after going to oregano's, and I'm there, and it was interesting because I have the next plan, which I don't think you get anymore on T-Mobile, sorry y'all.
• 1:22:52
  But I'm talking to the guy about what I want to do, and next thing you know, he's like, you know what you could do?
• 1:22:56
  He's like, if you want to give your nephew your wife's 16 and you want to get to 17, you can buy a 13 Pro Max.
• 1:23:05
  And I got one before after our show, I found one for 250 bucks, and T-Mobile will give you$1,100 credit, and I'm gonna get her a$17 for free, and I'm gonna give my nephew a$700 16 Pro Max, or not Max, but Pro.
• 1:23:22
  And for$250, they're both winning.
• 1:23:25
  Yep.
• 1:23:26
  Right?
• 1:23:26
  And you know how I'm winning?
• 1:23:27
  Full circle.
• 1:23:27
  It comes full circle.
• 1:23:28
  You know how I'm winning?
• 1:23:29
  I'm winning with the power of giving.
• 1:23:31
  Yeah, I don't need anything monetarily because it's the power of giving, and she's now gonna have the best phone in the house, and she has all of her marketing, all of her phone stuff, absolutely videos, whatever.
• 1:23:41
  He's gonna have a phone he's not even gonna expect.
• 1:23:44
  And then it was funny because I I I knew intuitively he was gonna say something without saying something.
• 1:23:50
  And so I have on the screensaver my GTR, one of my dream cars.
• 1:23:55
  Took 10 years to purchase it.
• 1:23:57
  And so I thought it, and then I showed him the phones really quick.
• 1:24:00
  So I'm gonna wait until the 18 comes out in September, whatever.
• 1:24:03
  He's like, Oh, your GTR?
• 1:24:04
  And then that turns into a whole nother set of conversations about the car and this and that.
• 1:24:08
  So it's so it's like going deeper into being, you know, intuitively thinking about what because so many people don't act on it.
• 1:24:16
  No, they don't.
• 1:24:17
  That's yeah, and then you and then it's like the what if, or I wish I would have done that.
• 1:24:21
  I knew that was gonna happen.
• 1:24:22
  Why didn't I listen?
• 1:24:23
  I should have make the call, didn't do the trip, didn't buy the car, didn't do whatever it was.
• 1:24:28
  Okay, first off, I love that you did that, that you were trusting your intuition, yeah, inner wisdom, inner knowing, and leaning into it.
• 1:24:34
  And then you could step back afterwards and see this, like we said, full circle of everyone just winning.
• 1:24:39
  Yes, it's this beautiful give, give, you know, like everyone's good and happy about it, and it's all an abundant energy.
• 1:24:46
  It's beautiful.
• 1:24:47
  Like, I love that.
• 1:24:48
  It's amazing.
• 1:24:49
  And one of the things that I'm getting to a point where I'm just gonna, you know, excuse my language, fuck you, money.
• 1:24:55
  I want that to a point where I can like my neighbor, her car is breaking down.
• 1:25:00
  I just want to go buy her a new SUV just because I can.
• 1:25:04
  Like, that's the type of thing I want to do, and I could feel it because what happens is if you're gonna break people out of certain cycles, you have to do something that is so unexpected that they'll they'd question it themselves.
• 1:25:16
  Like, what are you doing?
• 1:25:17
  Is this true?
• 1:25:18
  What the heck?
• 1:25:19
  I don't understand.
• 1:25:20
  No, there is nothing to understand.
• 1:25:22
  It's been done.
• 1:25:23
  Because the thing is, then then like Dr.
• 1:25:25
  Um Proctor, uh Bob Proctor.
• 1:25:27
  Uh-huh.
• 1:25:28
  So he talks about like if you were to like spend additional money on a hotel and get a suite.
• 1:25:34
  And there's a guy, he has a story, he's like, I started just getting sweets.
• 1:25:37
  I couldn't really afford it, but I could afford it.
• 1:25:39
  I ended up getting the sweets, and before he knew it, he changed his state of being into an abundance mindset where it actually gave it flooded him income that he wasn't even expecting because he put himself into that vibration.
• 1:25:53
  Yeah, he was already living that life.
• 1:25:55
  He was living it, uh-huh.
• 1:25:56
  Right?
• 1:25:57
  Yeah, it wasn't just talking about it or writing it down or manifesting on our full moon, he was doing it.
• 1:26:02
  Yes.
• 1:26:02
  And that's why I feel like the momentum, and there's a book called The Compound Effect.
• 1:26:06
  Even if it's a small little thing that you could do to compound to something bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, you know, like the phone situation.
• 1:26:13
  Now, this older gentleman, Jeff, he's gonna get 250.
• 1:26:16
  You know, my wife's gonna get her new phone, and then my my nephew gets to get his new phone.
• 1:26:20
  And then I get to enjoy watching everyone be freaking super excited.
• 1:26:25
  I love it.
• 1:26:25
  That's incredible.
• 1:26:26
  It really is amazing.
• 1:26:27
  And I think like people need to also take a moment to step back and reflect and observe to kind of see those little wins or big wins.
• 1:26:35
  I feel like they happen quickly, and then we just kind of like, oh, that was so cool.
• 1:26:38
  I'm glad that happened, or I manifested that, thought about it, prayed about it, and it happened.
• 1:26:41
  And then we move on.
• 1:26:42
  Yeah, it's like take a minute to really sit in the energy of that and how that feels because you can take that with you for the next thing that you're working on and hoping for and manifesting for and live in that space and that type of energy and momentum.
• 1:26:56
  I had I did this manifestation board and this workshop at the studio I'm at, and then I also did it with my kids at home.
• 1:27:01
  Yeah.
• 1:27:01
  And so I did my board with them and everything, and I had put up there that I would be doing outdoor yoga in this huge space with tons of people, right?
• 1:27:08
  And I was like, that's what's gonna happen.
• 1:27:10
  This is gonna happen.
• 1:27:11
  Within months, I got asked to fill in and teach this outdoor yoga, and it would, there were lots of people there.
• 1:27:16
  It was exactly how I saw.
• 1:27:17
  And she's like standing there with her arms up, just so happy.
• 1:27:19
  And I wanted to take a moment to like, I was talking to everyone afterwards, and I kept thinking like, case, take a minute to just like stand there, even if you get a photo or you just do it for yourself and put your arms up and just like gratitude, but I didn't because I was feeling hurried on to the next job.
• 1:27:32
  I'm like, oh no, I gotta go, I got another class to teach.
• 1:27:34
  So it's like I miss that moment and so now I'm trying really hard to remind myself, just pause for a second.
• 1:27:40
  Take your own advice that you tell your clients, the students, to do.
• 1:27:43
  You know, like sit with it for a minute.
• 1:27:45
  Yes.
• 1:27:45
  It's just that energy of gratitude.
• 1:27:47
  Yes.
• 1:27:47
  You know?
• 1:27:48
  And so yeah, I love that.
• 1:27:50
  I I love the manifestation.
• 1:27:52
  That's one thing that intuitively I've been listening to is um my angels have been telling me to slow down and um I get to the point and Is I've been forced to now, but get to the point where like not that it needs to be like a checklist that I have to check everything off.
• 1:28:07
  Yeah.
• 1:28:07
  I just like to be like, well shit, how much can I fit into this dude?
• 1:28:10
  Oh, that is so what I do.
• 1:28:12
  I'm so curious.
• 1:28:13
  Cause you thrive on the chaos.
• 1:28:15
  Yeah.
• 1:28:15
  Yeah.
• 1:28:15
  So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna have the AC guy come and get the AC cleaned out.
• 1:28:20
  I got this podcast, I got this strategy call.
• 1:28:22
  I'm gonna go pick up this new jet ski.
• 1:28:24
  I'm gonna do all this stuff.
• 1:28:25
  And then before you know it, I'm doing all these things, and then you're not sitting with it for a second and just enjoying.
• 1:28:31
  And then you're like, oh my God, now I got the speeding ticket.
• 1:28:34
  Okay, gotta deal with that.
• 1:28:36
  Oh, now I got a guy who ended up freaking going to our duct work and cutting the ducts because he was trying to freaking sell us on something we didn't need.
• 1:28:44
  And so it's like and I was walking too fast and I broke my toe.
• 1:28:47
  I've been there done that.
• 1:28:48
  Yep.
• 1:28:49
  See?
• 1:28:49
  It's like you're just that fast momentum.
• 1:28:51
  Yes, yes.
• 1:28:52
  And so I've been listening to um, and for the viewers and listeners out there, you're more than welcome to go through this uh process if you want.
• 1:29:00
  And I needed to do this uh tonight.
• 1:29:02
  So basically, there's this video, and it's just like a 22-minute video.
• 1:29:07
  Dr.
• 1:29:08
  Um uh what is his name?
• 1:29:10
  Proctor, it's gonna be Bob Proctor.
• 1:29:12
  So it's 22 minutes, and um geez Louise, my daughter's watching a lot of Michael Jackson shows.
• 1:29:19
  Um, and so we've been listening to it, and I just want to like show the camera really quick so the team also maybe put the link in the in the subject matter.
• 1:29:27
  So if you guys want to watch it, you can.
• 1:29:29
  But long story short, as I find it, um, oh, here it is Guided Abundance Meditation, Bob Proctor.
• 1:29:35
  It has 4.6 million views and uh 21.53 minutes.
• 1:29:39
  And so it starts off with the ocean, and from there you he takes you through this meditation.
• 1:29:45
  And the first thing that comes to mind when you talk about slowing down is he says, take a second, and if you walk outside and you look around, and whether there's birds or the grass or the trees and what have you, there is so much abundance all around us, and we forget that.
• 1:30:01
  Like, like I was at the gym and I was doing it at the gym, and I was looking around the gym, I'm like, there's millions of dollars in equipment around us that not one single person even thinks twice about.
• 1:30:12
  They take it for granted because they have their membership, then they're upset because the toilet's broken or they don't have fresh towels or whatever else.
• 1:30:20
  And so we get into that lack mindset, and then it doesn't create abundance.
• 1:30:26
  So you can get to a point where maybe you can have your own damn gym at your house like that, and then you're 100% in control, and people come into your house, you know what I'm saying, enjoying that that that co-creation space.
• 1:30:35
  Okay, it's so interesting.
• 1:30:36
  You just made me think of something.
• 1:30:38
  I um grew up really um humble, we'll say circumstances pretty poor.
• 1:30:43
  And um, so my kids say that I'm like ridiculous.
• 1:30:47
  When we have a packed fridge and pantry, I'm like, you guys, look at this.
• 1:30:52
  This is so beautiful.
• 1:30:53
  You guys can come in, get any food you want, you don't have to stress about it.
• 1:30:55
  Like, there's food there for you.
• 1:30:56
  Because I had moments in my life growing up, it wasn't like that.
• 1:30:59
  And so the tiniest things I really have a lot of gratitude for.
• 1:31:02
  So we grew up with cars that a lot of times when mom would have to throw and park at a stoplight.
• 1:31:07
  She'd ran and grab the jug of water, pop the hood, and throw water on it, you overheat, we get back in the car and go.
• 1:31:11
  Wow.
• 1:31:11
  And we didn't have AC.
• 1:31:13
  So I had this minivan, and that was growing up with so many like that.
• 1:31:16
  My car in high school, the doors wouldn't open.
• 1:31:18
  I had a drive hop out of the driver's window and I had a freaking skirt on because it's school uniforms.
• 1:31:23
  And I'm like, oh, I gotta climb out the window for everybody.
• 1:31:26
  Wow.
• 1:31:26
  And so, but I was so used to that stuff.
• 1:31:28
  So we had this minivan with my kids.
• 1:31:30
  It was paid off.
• 1:31:31
  So grateful for it to have it, no loan on it, no AC, right?
• 1:31:34
  The AC went out.
• 1:31:35
  We tried many times to get it working, it wouldn't work.
• 1:31:37
  So I was like, kids, this is fine.
• 1:31:38
  This is gonna give you grit.
• 1:31:40
  You guys need a little bit of grit.
• 1:31:41
  This is how I grew up.
• 1:31:42
  We're gonna roll the windows down.
• 1:31:43
  You just have so much gratitude for that wind blowing through.
• 1:31:46
  They're like, Mom, it's hot wind.
• 1:31:47
  I'm like, I know, but it's still a breeze, right?
• 1:31:49
  It's cool in the sweat room.
• 1:31:50
  You're good.
• 1:31:51
  Yeah, totally.
• 1:31:51
  They're like, I'm like, just be happy that we can drive somewhere.
• 1:31:54
  You're not walking, all these things.
• 1:31:55
  And so um, I was like, okay, fine.
• 1:31:58
  Eventually, after a couple summers of us having no AC, showing up to appointments sweaty and gross.
• 1:32:02
  I'm like, oh, something does have to change.
• 1:32:03
  I start manifesting this car, right?
• 1:32:05
  I'm like, okay, I'm gonna get Kia, tell your ride, she's gonna be dark green.
• 1:32:07
  I love it.
• 1:32:08
  I saw it.
• 1:32:09
  I put it everywhere, it's on my phone, I'm telling everyone about it.
• 1:32:12
  The reason I finally shifted to that was because I was in my my yoga training.
• 1:32:16
  I have this tattoo on my arm and it's Sanskrit and it's apari graha.
• 1:32:20
  And it's that principle of non-attachment.
• 1:32:22
  And so when we were learning about these different uh beliefs, that I was like, oh yeah, non-attachment, I got that one.
• 1:32:28
  Like because I didn't have things growing up, I won't attach to any of it.
• 1:32:31
  If I don't attach to it, I don't expect it.
• 1:32:33
  I'm not gonna be let down.
• 1:32:34
  There's no disappointment.
• 1:32:35
  I won't attach.
• 1:32:36
  And then my uh instructor and trainer and friend, she was like, You're attaching to non-attachment.
• 1:32:41
  And I was like, what?
• 1:32:42
  No, I'm not.
• 1:32:43
  I don't attach to stuff.
• 1:32:44
  She's like, you're attaching to the idea that you don't attach.
• 1:32:46
  And I was like, oh, she's called me out.
• 1:32:51
  I'm like, let me sit with that for a minute.
• 1:32:53
  So I kind of did some work around that.
• 1:32:55
  And I was like, I was like, she's right.
• 1:32:56
  And she's like, and you not wanting a nicer car because you could eventually get one for sure.
• 1:33:01
  You're doing it almost as like self-punishment as if you don't deserve it.
• 1:33:04
  Instead of being like, I don't need it, I'm not attaching it to it.
• 1:33:06
  She's like, I know your energy around it is that you didn't grow up with it.
• 1:33:09
  So your kids don't need it, you still don't need it.
• 1:33:12
  And I was like, no, she's right.
• 1:33:13
  So I did a lot of work around that, shifted my mindset and started manifesting.
• 1:33:17
  They had one Kia tell you right on the property and it was the dark green, the exact one that and I started telling her, I'm like, guys, look, I was like, I even bought this keychain.
• 1:33:27
  The keychain I got was dark green.
• 1:33:28
  It was like this whole like full circle moment, you know, that I was like, okay, here it is.
• 1:33:32
  And so every day, and I've had that car for over a year, uh, not a day passes that I don't get in that car and just feel so much gratitude.
• 1:33:38
  Wow.
• 1:33:39
  The AC turns on, it's full blast, it's so cold, and I'm like, yes, thank you, Jesus.
• 1:33:43
  Like we have this cold air.
• 1:33:45
  And so it's just interesting, all the energy around it, whether you're trying not to attach and you're attaching to not attaching, or you're attaching too much to material things, you know?
• 1:33:55
  And so to kind of like shift your perspective around that and see what it is that you really need and what you feel like not even deserve, but um, that you want to work towards.
• 1:34:04
  Yes.
• 1:34:04
  And then that's it's it's interesting how you were being challenged.
• 1:34:08
  The Lord was challenged you in a way to be able to like, yeah, like your kids, what you went through, they can get a little taste of it, whatever.
• 1:34:15
  But more importantly, it was it was an example for you to be like, look, you're repeating the cycles, and who out there can can can attest?
• 1:34:23
  You're doing the same shit that you were subject to, or you're because your mom, or because your dad, or because you whatever.
• 1:34:30
  Um, and this happens all of the time.
• 1:34:32
  And this is where people they they set themselves up with these self-limiting beliefs, and they don't even think twice about it because you know, oh no, I can't have that, or why do they have that?
• 1:34:45
  I don't have it, and there's like all this ego, ego, ego, ego.
• 1:34:48
  And so what I learned was from the perspective of like stuff like this house, you know, I have the GTR, I have a TRX, and we have the new Honda Santa Fe, which is the same basically as what you have.
• 1:34:58
  It's just a little bit different.
• 1:35:00
  Um, and then I just bought a jet ski and then I have the e-bike and all this stuff.
• 1:35:03
  But what I've learned is is those are just tools to be able to leverage to get people to like ask questions that they didn't know they needed to ask to maybe stumble upon this show, and that's why you're maybe watching.
• 1:35:15
  Um, because the last episode was about cars and GTRs and a buddy of mine who who who we talked a little bit about a god, and it was more so just about just more of like a surface level conversation.
• 1:35:26
  We got a little deep, but not too deep, but then have this type of conversation to then go deeper for people to be like, whoa, this is nothing like the last episode.
• 1:35:34
  Yeah, you're welcome.
• 1:35:35
  Yeah, we're gonna freak them out to go from cars to like past life regression.
• 1:35:40
  What the hell is this conversation?
• 1:35:43
  But but it's like when you start to see it like that, yeah, it takes it to a different level.
• 1:35:48
  Like, say for your car, you potentially could put a QR code or something on there to then get your name out there, get people curious, because now we're speaking my language, landing pages, QR codes, video messages.
• 1:36:02
  Like I do all that stuff.
• 1:36:04
  So I'm the I'm the guy who I need to pick your brain after this.
• 1:36:06
  I got you.
• 1:36:07
  I got you.
• 1:36:08
  I I could I could set you up with your SOPs, your KPIs, your automation.
• 1:36:12
  How do you know what that is?
• 1:36:13
  I feel like I need it.
• 1:36:14
  Intake forms, all that stuff.
• 1:36:16
  You could you could literally I could set you up where like literally it's like the nurse before the doctor.
• 1:36:21
  Oh, that's a good thing I can you could have everything you need.
• 1:36:24
  So before you even start the session, you could literally come in and then you can charge like double.
• 1:36:28
  I love it.
• 1:36:28
  I'm just just saying.
• 1:36:29
  Uh yeah.
• 1:36:30
  So that's the stuff that I get off on because there's so much on the tech world that people don't even think about because then they don't they don't think that they're worth it, or they think they they need to call everyone, text everyone, or or talk to everyone.
• 1:36:41
  Like, no, you don't.
• 1:36:42
  Like, if someone can't follow a standard operating procedure, SOP, and then you have key performance indicators, KPIs, then you don't really have a scalable model.
• 1:36:52
  You have something that, like, you know, yeah, you can call, you can text, you can email, you can talk to them.
• 1:36:56
  But then I tell people on the on the agent side, even for you too, is like, have you ever met someone or talked to someone which you wish you just never did, but you had to because you had to learn that you need to build better SOPs and KPIs so you don't have to talk to that person again.
• 1:37:08
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:37:09
  So you can get quicker, faster success with the people that actually want to get into what you're gonna get into.
• 1:37:14
  Because if you ask pre-qualifying questions, that only you know that those pre-qualifying questions are questions that ask before you meet the person because they're gonna be like, huh.
• 1:37:24
  And depending on how they answer them, you know directly if it's gonna be a good session or not, or how many sessions they need to have.
• 1:37:30
  Yes, I love that you're not wasting their time or your time.
• 1:37:33
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:37:33
  Uh huh.
• 1:37:34
  Yeah.
• 1:37:34
  So then it's less going to an appointment thinking that you're gonna go to this appointment, it's gonna be so amazing, but it's only gonna be the initial consultation, and then you just wasted that time and you could have done some more hair that you don't want to do, anyways.
• 1:37:44
  Right?
• 1:37:45
  Yeah, you know you could be you go see your kids on stage because they have they have a play or something.
• 1:37:50
  Yes, you know?
• 1:37:50
  Yeah, I get it.
• 1:37:51
  And so that's where I feel like um, and that's what I help my wife a lot with that.
• 1:37:54
  We built her website and that type of stuff.
• 1:37:56
  But so cool.
• 1:37:57
  But it's just it's little things like that.
• 1:37:58
  And I'll show you the car.
• 1:37:59
  I have freaking lift off all over the truck and QR codes.
• 1:38:02
  And it says you want to lift off personally, scan here and it goes to a podcast.
• 1:38:07
  And it says you want to lift off your real estate business, you scan here and it goes.
• 1:38:10
  Oh, okay.
• 1:38:10
  Yeah, I need to get it.
• 1:38:11
  It goes to that.
• 1:38:12
  It's just it's cool.
• 1:38:13
  And it's fun, it's back to like a video game.
• 1:38:15
  Like, you see the bag right there on the floor, that Gucci bag?
• 1:38:18
  My entire interior of my Nissan GTR is that.
• 1:38:23
  Are you serious?
• 1:38:24
  I'm one of the only cars in the world to have a Gucci interior.
• 1:38:27
  Oh wait.
• 1:38:28
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:29
  That's beautiful.
• 1:38:29
  It's I I got$35,000 into this car.
• 1:38:32
  I almost have your car into it.
• 1:38:34
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:36
  I love that people love cars and I just, it's not my thing, but I think it's cool.
• 1:38:41
  I think they're beautiful.
• 1:38:42
  Well, look, look at like this, and I think this would change your entire perspective.
• 1:38:45
  Yeah.
• 1:38:46
  When you think about energy in, energy out, and where attention goes, energy flows.
• 1:38:50
  Think about how much time an engineer has to manifest the possibility of building a Ferrari, a Lamborghini, or something that's gonna cost$250,000.
• 1:38:58
  Then imagine how long it takes for someone to achieve, get past self-limiting beliefs to make that type of income to even be able to purchase a car in the first place.
• 1:39:05
  Yeah.
• 1:39:05
  So when you think about the energy put forth into that car, and if you think about it, I'm gonna go really deep here with y'all right here.
• 1:39:12
  Everything is alive.
• 1:39:14
  Everything.
• 1:39:14
  And when I drive that car and I put that Gucci interior in when I was in Japan and I got back, the car was happier.
• 1:39:20
  I shit you not.
• 1:39:21
  It drove different.
• 1:39:23
  No, I believe it.
• 1:39:23
  I mean crazy.
• 1:39:25
  I can feel that.
• 1:39:26
  Yeah, oh, I totally believe it.
• 1:39:27
  I think it was Albert Einstein that said the universe is vibration, right?
• 1:39:32
  So if like everything is vibration, vibration is also connected to energy and that frequency, then it makes sense.
• 1:39:37
  Yeah.
• 1:39:38
  You know, if all of us are everything in the universe is, then yeah, it makes sense.
• 1:39:42
  100%.
• 1:39:43
  Like as an example, uh, the cars at the shop had a little, you know, there's a little splitter thing and it fell off freeway, whatever.
• 1:39:50
  So it's at the shop right now, and I'm at the gym.
• 1:39:53
  I got a buddy of mine, he sends me a message.
• 1:39:54
  He's like, hey dude, my buddy sent me a text message, saw your car at this shop, yada yada yada.
• 1:39:59
  So speaking about the universe, how everything works, you know, like the universe has your back.
• 1:40:03
  You know, it's crazy how stuff like that comes back full circle.
• 1:40:07
  And that ties back in, y'all.
• 1:40:09
  The trusting your intuition.
• 1:40:12
  And I feel like the intuition is the antenna of you being able to navigate your best life possible and to know where you need to be, what you need to do, and how you need to do it.
• 1:40:22
  If you could just tap in.
• 1:40:24
  Yeah.
• 1:40:25
  Yes, absolutely.
• 1:40:26
  Just this past weekend, I went to go do a sound bath in Sedona.
• 1:40:30
  Uh huh.
• 1:40:30
  And these beautiful women, I love it.
• 1:40:32
  They had scheduled this um for at this Airbnb.
• 1:40:35
  They scheduled it weeks ago.
• 1:40:36
  I put it on my calendar, like everything was good, ready to go.
• 1:40:39
  I told my girls, hey, come with me, we'll make it like a day.
• 1:40:42
  It'll be a total write-off with my business.
• 1:40:43
  It'd be fun, spend the day in Sedona.
• 1:40:44
  Yeah, heck yeah.
• 1:40:45
  As I'm getting ready to leave, I taught a class that morning, that morning.
• 1:40:48
  So I was already like going and moving, and I loaded up all my sound equipment and I said to my oldest, I was like, I feel like I'm getting the day wrong.
• 1:40:55
  I keep checking my calendar.
• 1:40:56
  I don't know why.
• 1:40:57
  I'm just, you know, intuition.
• 1:40:58
  I'm hearing and feeling like, hey, you're you need to check the day.
• 1:41:00
  I checked out my calendar again.
• 1:41:02
  I was too busy in that momentum of we've got to get on the road that I didn't go back and check the text messages.
• 1:41:07
  As we're driving there, I felt it again.
• 1:41:09
  I was like, I don't know.
• 1:41:10
  I'm feeling like, is this the wrong day?
• 1:41:11
  There's no way I double checked.
• 1:41:13
  We get there.
• 1:41:13
  I sent her a text message and she didn't respond.
• 1:41:15
  And I was like, oh yeah, I did.
• 1:41:17
  I know it.
• 1:41:18
  And I go and I scroll back through the text messages, and she had scheduled for Sunday, and we were there Saturday.
• 1:41:24
  I was like, that could be a blessing.
• 1:41:26
  Yeah.
• 1:41:26
  So at first I start beating myself up about it.
• 1:41:28
  Gosh dang it, case.
• 1:41:29
  You should have checked.
• 1:41:30
  You knew you felt it.
• 1:41:31
  And I stopped myself.
• 1:41:33
  Those are old patterns.
• 1:41:34
  We're not doing that.
• 1:41:34
  You don't talk to yourself like that anymore.
• 1:41:36
  There's a reason for this.
• 1:41:38
  Divine timing.
• 1:41:39
  Yeah.
• 1:41:39
  And now you get to spend the day, which you've been working 24-7.
• 1:41:42
  You get to spend the day with your girls and your beautiful niece.
• 1:41:44
  You're gonna have so much fun.
• 1:41:45
  So I tried to shift the energy around.
• 1:41:47
  We had a great time, drove home, and then the next day I did a session and then I went and drove there.
• 1:41:53
  Drove again on Sunday.
• 1:41:54
  But I was like, who knows?
• 1:41:56
  Maybe, maybe I needed that time with my girls.
• 1:41:58
  Maybe I avoided an accident, just the timing of it.
• 1:42:01
  You know, I really don't know, but I'm just going to trust instead of beating myself up about it.
• 1:42:05
  Yep.
• 1:42:05
  Um, but yeah, it ended up being beautiful, and they're the most incredible women.
• 1:42:09
  So I know that they schedule again because it was such, it was such a beautiful uh sound bath and reiki session.
• 1:42:14
  Aw, that is absolutely amazing.
• 1:42:17
  And I'm sure you have stories out there.
• 1:42:18
  So if you do, give us your feedback, comment below if you ever listened to your intuition and what did that look like, and we would love to know because um that came up to me, uh, came up for me.
• 1:42:28
  So we're leaving Tuesday and we're doing this whole thing.
• 1:42:30
  Because I wanted to go to Hawaii and then potentially before or after uh for my nephew's birthday, go to Hawaii, come back, and then do the thing and celebrate, and then you know, whatever.
• 1:42:41
  So I started thinking about it.
• 1:42:43
  I was like, you know what, why don't we just go to San Diego instead, and then we can drive down the coast, and then we can end up in the Bay Area, California.
• 1:42:50
  And then my sister lives in Bakersfield.
• 1:42:52
  So I'm like, huh.
• 1:42:53
  What if we go to what if we go to San Diego, Bakersfield, then the Bay Area?
• 1:42:57
  And then my wife sends a message to my sister, and my sister, I love you if you're watching.
• 1:43:02
  She's not the best with communication or getting back to people.
• 1:43:06
  And I'm just gonna say this, and I'm just gonna be 100% honest, and you probably know someone like this, you probably know someone like this.
• 1:43:12
  People do it with maybe thinking about it.
• 1:43:16
  They put people in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, or ten category.
• 1:43:20
  So maybe like number one is like the like the this is pressing, I gotta pay this bill.
• 1:43:26
  Number ten, I'll get back to later, maybe within the week.
• 1:43:30
  Okay.
• 1:43:31
  So I felt like we were put into like this like seven category.
• 1:43:34
  Well, I'll get back to them, whatever, right?
• 1:43:36
  Because we're, and this is this is this is where I feel like the rubber meets the road.
• 1:43:41
  And in my opinion, if you care about the person, you get back to the person right away, regardless if you're like, I'm gonna put you at a seven because you're not gonna be here into the second, and it has to do with you being out here and blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:43:55
  So then intuitively, I'm like, you know what?
• 1:43:57
  We're going to the super sick resort.
• 1:44:00
  We're just gonna stay there two more days, and maybe we'll catch her on the way back.
• 1:44:03
  Yeah.
• 1:44:04
  Because at the end of the day, I'm not gonna rush and go, you know, stay, because the thing is too, is that she's having a baby, and we're not gonna probably be able to meet the baby shower because it's the end of the month.
• 1:44:14
  We're going at the beginning of the month in June.
• 1:44:16
  So just next week.
• 1:44:17
  So I'm like, we'll bring the diapers and the gift and whatever we're gonna give for the kid, uh, for the new one, and um, it's her first two, and and just go from there.
• 1:44:25
  And so, because I definitely want to support her, whatever the case may be, but it's like it's little things that people have to realize that they don't realize, and this is what gets me is I love to be a servant.
• 1:44:37
  I love to serve, I love to support.
• 1:44:39
  We have three Airbnbs here.
• 1:44:40
  I'll be able to acts of service.
• 1:44:43
  That's exactly what it is, right?
• 1:44:45
  And when someone doesn't either communicate, appreciate, uh, or you just felt like you were used, it makes me feel like, okay.
• 1:44:55
  I I no, I didn't work from I didn't come from nothing and be a cycle breaker and the only person in my whole entire family to be where I'm at right now, for anyone to think that it's okay just to like take advantage of the situation.
• 1:45:09
  And that your time and energy isn't valuable.
• 1:45:11
  Correct.
• 1:45:12
  And unfortunately, that happened and it's uh it's unfortunate when that does happen, and then you have to just set up those boundaries and be like, okay, well, guess what?
• 1:45:21
  Like, you know, it's it is not gonna make sense because I know for a fact, and this is ego aside, that like we all have energy exchange and value to add.
• 1:45:32
  And I'm here to exchange energy and add value to those that are willing to receive it and and and wants to pour back in.
• 1:45:41
  Because when it's one poor and one side on the poor side, it's like, okay, I can't.
• 1:45:44
  Sorry.
• 1:45:45
  Yeah, and it's hard to do that to be like, you know, I love you, but I can't keep showing up for you because there's not this exchange, it's not happening.
• 1:45:53
  I'm trying to meet you where you are, but you're not meeting where I'm at.
• 1:45:55
  And so it's not tit for tat.
• 1:45:58
  No, uh-uh.
• 1:45:59
  It's more of like valuing your time.
• 1:46:01
  Yeah, it really is a form of self-love.
• 1:46:03
  Yes, yeah, and that's really, really hard for me because I'm like you, I will give all day long.
• 1:46:08
  And I don't care what time it is, you can call me any time a day.
• 1:46:10
  And my friends know that, family knows that I will show up whatever you need.
• 1:46:13
  Wow.
• 1:46:14
  Um, but then you get drained, you know, eventually if you're the only one that's giving, and um, you have to value your time and you know, and respect yourself.
• 1:46:22
  Yeah, 100%.
• 1:46:23
  And that's where I like to keep some boundaries, and um, and also I think that like back to like you said, self-worth and like being paid or compensated.
• 1:46:32
  So this last past uh two weeks ago, fifth uh GTR event.
• 1:46:36
  So I had like a bunch of supercars.
• 1:46:38
  Uh we had a taco guy, supercars, camera guys, the whole nine, three camera cars, wanted to make a whole movie.
• 1:46:44
  Uh, you know, the intention was there, but the problem was is that you know, I'm leveraging lift off agent to pay the thousand dollars to feed 60 people, uh, the camera guys, and then one crew,$750.
• 1:46:56
  You know, now you're at$2,000 for this event, and you're not expecting anything.
• 1:46:59
  You know, and then on top of it, I put QR codes everywhere and I was gonna do a live podcast session, 12 people, five minutes of pop, like this whole orchestrated thing.
• 1:47:09
  Yeah.
• 1:47:09
  And then I was gonna, then I'm still gonna do this.
• 1:47:11
  I was gonna take donations and go bless some homeless people.
• 1:47:14
  So I got 250 in donations, technically 350 in donations, because one of my buddies like, dude, what are you doing, bro?
• 1:47:19
  That's all for free.
• 1:47:20
  You're not even charged nothing, nothing.
• 1:47:21
  And it's interesting how people will, if you give an inch, they'll take a mile and they won't even think twice about it.
• 1:47:28
  And so that's where you have to draw the line, like you said, and understand your value proposition, how much you're worth, and specifically make sure that you're charging for whatever it is that you're doing.
• 1:47:37
  Cause if not, then it's just like they'll expect it.
• 1:47:39
  It's so crazy.
• 1:47:41
  Every time.
• 1:47:42
  Yep, absolutely.
• 1:47:44
  And what do you think the ex when you think about expect it?
• 1:47:46
  Like, is that an ego thing when you expect it?
• 1:47:49
  Is it is it's like it is, and they're not self-aware.
• 1:47:52
  It's like, how are you not able to self-reflect on this and see that you are taking advantage of?
• 1:47:57
  You know what I mean?
• 1:47:58
  Like you're taking advantage of me and my time or my skills, and you expect it.
• 1:48:02
  It's the expectancy from me that drives me crazy.
• 1:48:05
  You know, if they even just a simple thank you, or like, you know, sorry, I can't pay this time, or sorry, I'm late.
• 1:48:10
  But it's like the people that have a hard time self-reflecting and recognizing what they're doing, that's the hardest part to like stay in a relationship with them, or you know, or even just be with them and hold space and keep giving and giving.
• 1:48:22
  Yeah.
• 1:48:23
  Yeah, it really I I would feel horrible if I made someone wait forever, if I didn't show up when I said, or you know, didn't even think them.
• 1:48:30
  I I just would feel awful.
• 1:48:31
  But I don't know that everyone is in that same mindset or the same space.
• 1:48:34
  And I think it is sometimes ego gets in the way and just you know, selfishness and your own wants and worries and it's not leading from heart space.
• 1:48:43
  Yeah, for sure.
• 1:48:43
  And I can't even believe it being something too like an abundance thing either, because just expecting something like that, like I don't know.
• 1:48:50
  It's it's very like it's very interesting, and it's something that I just like to observe.
• 1:48:54
  And I know for a fact that like what comes around goes around.
• 1:48:57
  So I'm not even thinking twice about it.
• 1:48:58
  It's totally fine.
• 1:48:59
  Um, keep on, keeping on, like this show.
• 1:49:02
  Like, I don't uh no brand deal.
• 1:49:04
  You want to subscribe?
• 1:49:05
  Thank you.
• 1:49:06
  Uh, but that's it, right?
• 1:49:07
  Like, you know, it's just it's creating the space, and this whole show is for a long-term play, like bigger than Joe Rogan, is my goal, is to really turn this into something huge.
• 1:49:17
  Um, but it has to be organic.
• 1:49:19
  It was funny.
• 1:49:20
  Um, my wife, she's like, I want to invite all these amazing people to your show.
• 1:49:24
  Do you have like a link?
• 1:49:25
  And I'm like, Yeah, she's like, that's just a sign-up link.
• 1:49:28
  Do you have like and I'm the tech guy here?
• 1:49:32
  Like, do you have a video or do you have a blurb?
• 1:49:35
  And I'm like, holy sh, I've done 700 episodes and I don't even have it set up for yourself.
• 1:49:41
  I don't even have it set up for myself because because that's how much I don't even think twice about it.
• 1:49:46
  Because I I just love this space of sitting down, co creating, have an amazing conversation where we can just like not be on our phones, be present, and then hold space for each other and then.
• 1:50:00
  The the viewers out there and just just enjoy and co-corate.
• 1:50:03
  It's so beautiful.
• 1:50:04
  To let it happen organically.
• 1:50:06
  Yeah.
• 1:50:07
  And so that's where it's like, okay, so by Monday, we have all the stuff being rolled out.
• 1:50:10
  So I have to.
• 1:50:11
  Yeah, you are going to.
• 1:50:12
  Yeah.
• 1:50:13
  We're taking it to the next level, making it more professional.
• 1:50:16
  And my other half.
• 1:50:17
  So I have my wife, then I have my work wife.
• 1:50:20
  And so shout out Vitz if you're listening.
• 1:50:22
  Nice.
• 1:50:23
  She's in the Philippines.
• 1:50:23
  We've been working together for like six years.
• 1:50:25
  And she is just the opposite of me.
• 1:50:28
  And she is just absolutely amazing.
• 1:50:30
  And she is such a diehard.
• 1:50:32
  It is ridiculous.
• 1:50:33
  Like, I'm just like, you need to take a break.
• 1:50:35
  You need to take a nap.
• 1:50:36
  Like you need to be structured in Taipei.
• 1:50:38
  CO.
• 1:50:39
  Yeah.
• 1:50:39
  Yeah.
• 1:50:40
  Yeah.
• 1:50:40
  Chief Operations Officer.
• 1:50:41
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:50:42
  Um, because I, you know, no one would hire me.
• 1:50:44
  I'm all over the place.
• 1:50:45
  You just want to go free flow.
• 1:50:47
  I just want to go free flow and chief.
• 1:50:48
  Ride your ride around your cars and homeless money and keep cursing.
• 1:50:53
  That's it, dude.
• 1:50:54
  That's it.
• 1:50:54
  So that's where it's like the team, they're structured, they're organized, all that type of stuff.
• 1:50:58
  But like, you know, visionary, you know, I do help out, put things in perspective.
• 1:51:03
  My business partner, Smith, he's the tech guy behind the scenes, so he does all that type of stuff.
• 1:51:07
  You're utilizing everyone's um talents and skills.
• 1:51:10
  Yes.
• 1:51:11
  That's how you put a good team together.
• 1:51:13
  That's great business.
• 1:51:14
  Yes.
• 1:51:14
  And the cool this is the coolest thing.
• 1:51:16
  I was telling my wife about this last night.
• 1:51:17
  Uh, we like to just like lay in bed and just like digest the day and then just talk about all these different things.
• 1:51:22
  And so she was talking about getting to her next timeline and evolving to who she is gonna become.
• 1:51:28
  And she redid her vision board and she's asking herself her self-worth.
• 1:51:31
  And she's like, why am I not like where I want to be?
• 1:51:35
  And like, why am I questioning myself?
• 1:51:36
  Why this, this, this, and this?
• 1:51:37
  So she's like, all this self-discovery.
• 1:51:39
  And I love that for her.
• 1:51:41
  And then I was like, you know, myself, I was like, wow, I said, I'm doing the same thing, but with 20 people doing it with me because I meet for 30, I have each team member has a vision board.
• 1:51:51
  I meet them for 30 minutes a month.
• 1:51:53
  We do a Monday motivation, and it's it's an open door policy.
• 1:51:56
  This is not a traditional corporation, and so everyone is co-creating and a leveling up together as a collective, and there's 20 of us, and it's so interesting to then have all that happen at the same time.
• 1:52:09
  And she's like, Yeah, I've seen you three extra income last past 12 months, and I was like, you know what?
• 1:52:15
  You're right, like that is crazy.
• 1:52:17
  That's so cool.
• 1:52:18
  Like, I love that how much that has shifted, and so and it's one of those things where it's like that can happen on a collective consciousness, and that's where I feel like if you're look viewing and listening, you're a part of that, and that's where I feel like you know, we're a part of that.
• 1:52:33
  And I feel like we had a contract to sit here and to do this and to serve and support, you know.
• 1:52:38
  I'm excited to see what a session's gonna do and what's gonna come up and what you learn from the whole situation and what I learned from it too.
• 1:52:46
  Definitely, you know, which is just absolutely amazing.
• 1:52:49
  But um, we covered so much, and I can't believe we're almost at like two hours.
• 1:52:54
  Oh my word, I gotta teach a class in a little bit.
• 1:52:56
  I gotta have some time.
• 1:52:58
  Hour and 50, hour and 54 minutes.
• 1:53:00
  I know I feel like we just solved the world's issues and every topic I know.
• 1:53:05
  Is there anything that comes intuitively to you that you feel like maybe needs to be said or covered or gone over?
• 1:53:14
  Uh, you know what?
• 1:53:15
  I'm gonna leave and be thinking uh that I should have clarified a couple things.
• 1:53:20
  Like my overanalyzing is coming in.
• 1:53:22
  So I don't know that if it's a I think it I it does feel uh intuitive just to to like go back and clarify or reiterate, you know, how much I do value and love different religions and the LDS faith, you know, and what they do and what they've taught me.
• 1:53:39
  And I'm the person I am today because of my upbringing, because of that religion.
• 1:53:44
  Yes, and my parents are incredible people and taught me so many beautiful things and they fully support me now.
• 1:53:50
  So I I really appreciate that that even though we have different beliefs in certain things, they still know me and believe in me, you know, and and can feel that I am coming from um like my heart space, trying to lead with my heart and trying to do what I feel like God would want me to do.
• 1:54:08
  I love that to help others, you know.
• 1:54:10
  I love that.
• 1:54:10
  Um and without that though, you know, without you doing or go growing up and going through that opportunity, the contrast wouldn't be there.
• 1:54:19
  Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:54:20
  So so you needed the contrast to be able to see the things that you didn't know that you needed to see to become who you were destined to be today.
• 1:54:28
  Yes, right?
• 1:54:29
  So that's why I feel like anyone who's viewing and listening who's in the LDS world, dude, you're awesome.
• 1:54:34
  Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:54:37
  Life's freaking good.
• 1:54:38
  If if that's what you're called to and you love it and it's an alignment, then fantastic.
• 1:54:43
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:54:43
  It's bringing you joy and you feel closer to your highest self, to God, to what you feel you're supposed to do in this earth life, then yes, baby, do it.
• 1:54:52
  Yeah, 100%.
• 1:54:53
  Yeah, I just feel that um if you could just be open, it's amazing that what you'll learn.
• 1:54:58
  Yeah, you know, and it's just such a such an amazing life out there.
• 1:55:03
  And um, whether it's like coming from the perspective of like just you know, dating someone someone could talk to, or just learning why someone has fallen hard times or what they're going through.
• 1:55:15
  Yeah.
• 1:55:15
  Um, because I think it's so easy to come from ego to knock religions or knock and think that ideologies no more, and because you're on this outside that you know, oh, they're in this little box and way of thinking, so they don't really know.
• 1:55:28
  But who are you to say that you know better than someone else?
• 1:55:31
  Yeah.
• 1:55:32
  I don't know anything.
• 1:55:33
  That's how I feel.
• 1:55:34
  I was like, I know nothing.
• 1:55:35
  I'm just you know what I feel like if we could all just genuinely it sounds cliche, but it's so true.
• 1:55:40
  If we could really just approach people and new things, new experiences from a genuine place of love.
• 1:55:47
  Like I'm not trying to judge you for where you came from, what you're doing, what you're trying to do.
• 1:55:51
  I really want to understand it from this space of love.
• 1:55:54
  And I think that's where I got hung up with so many different things growing up.
• 1:55:58
  The the reason certain things didn't align with me is that it felt like a tiny bit of judgment.
• 1:56:04
  Like, even say the LGBTQ community.
• 1:56:06
  I I love every single person genuinely.
• 1:56:10
  So the idea that they couldn't participate in certain things within different religions, not just speaking LDS, lots of faiths have that feeling, broke my heart and never aligned with me, even when I was a little girl.
• 1:56:21
  Like I understood that and I just didn't understand why we couldn't accept and just hold space with genuine love for wherever anyone is at and whoever they want to love or who they who they're trying to become, you know.
• 1:56:32
  Beautiful.
• 1:56:32
  So I don't know that I think that's my the thing that I really try to focus on.
• 1:56:37
  Absolutely beautiful.
• 1:56:39
  Yeah, I think that that's that's the number one rule of the game, right?
• 1:56:42
  It's like you you look at divisiveness and you look at the way that things have been um and look at history, you know, whether it's whites and it's blacks and it's you know LDS, or not in LDS, it's uh LGBT, you know, it's it's now it's them, they and and all this stuff.
• 1:56:59
  It's like I feel like the things that are coming up are coming up for a reason for us to be challenged in ways to grow to the next level and for us to really realize that like we're we're people, we're energy, we're we're we're we're transmitting energy.
• 1:57:15
  Uh, you know, back to my sister, she was gay, she married a woman, she got a divorce, now she's with a man, looks just like her ex, but it's a man, that's amazing, and it's amazing, and now she's having a kid, yeah, whatever, you know, it's like you know, I just it all just came from a place of love.
• 1:57:34
  It comes from love, and then you can't deny the energy, yeah, and that's what it is.
• 1:57:39
  It's more or less energy, and and people may think, woo, woo, this or that, or whatever else, but like you're attracted to what you're attracted to, it's energy, and you know, it it's why do you think they call it energy drinks?
• 1:57:51
  Because there's energy, yes, yeah, you know, like and and it's interesting because love really is the highest frequency.
• 1:57:56
  Yes.
• 1:57:57
  So if you just approach it, even think frequency if you want, and there's a lot of science behind that.
• 1:58:01
  So if you want to go there, all the left-brained people that are analytical, dive into that.
• 1:58:06
  Because really, if it is about frequency, love is the highest, it vibrates the highest.
• 1:58:10
  The energy of love is just its purest form, highest frequency.
• 1:58:14
  So if you approach anything you're doing from that frequency of love, you're good, you're in alignment.
• 1:58:20
  Great things will happen for you.
• 1:58:21
  The best way to put it in perspective, if anyone who's viewing and listening has gotten married or has a kid, how much love do you have for that new being that you just gave birth to, or the the day of your wedding, and you're walking down that aisle and your count your tears are coming up, it is so powerful that it doesn't and this is the thing that like stifles individuals from the perspective of thinking from multiple different perspectives of this equation, is that oh, but that's my daughter, or that's my son, or that's someone that I'm married, so that's gonna be different.
• 1:58:57
  Well, imagine if it if it if it could be, you know, more of a co-creation, love.
• 1:59:04
  What if it could transcend into other things?
• 1:59:06
  Yeah, because to be honest with you, like we're transmitting love right now.
• 1:59:11
  Yeah, we just met each other, we don't know each other.
• 1:59:13
  Oh you know what I'm saying?
• 1:59:14
  But to transmit love and do and have love for each other to be able to serve the greater consciousness is exactly what we're doing.
• 1:59:21
  Yeah.
• 1:59:22
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