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The Kenny Report | 10 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me on the Kenny Report. Tonight, farmers
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Speaker 1: descend on Canberra to tell the government they've had a
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Speaker 1: gut full. The Prime Minister follows the premiers to keep
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Speaker 1: kids off social medium. Donald Trump and Kamala Harris ready
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Speaker 1: to square off at tomorrow's highly anticipated debate, But will
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden stay up to watch it? Also, hummus graffiti
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Speaker 1: sprayed around Sydney after an anti Jewish terror plot was
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Speaker 1: foiled in the United States. And there's plenty more tonight
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Speaker 1: with Kristen Tate, Christy McSweeney, Stephen Senna Teampo and Tim Blair.
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Speaker 1: Let's get cracking the gold mine, the government and the
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Speaker 1: suspicious Indigenous cultural heritage claim. I'm not about to let
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Speaker 1: this one go. I can tell you this proposed gold
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Speaker 1: mine near Blainey in New South Wales blocked because of
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Speaker 1: an Indigenous heritage band on its tailings down. There's been
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Speaker 1: a bit happening and I'll give you some exclusive insights
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Speaker 1: in just a moment. But over the weekend the Australian
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Speaker 1: newspaper revealed a letter about the band from cultural advisor
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Speaker 1: Roy rcve met him on this program. He wrote it
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Speaker 1: to the Environment Minister Tanya Plibasik, and it said the
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Speaker 1: Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council consulted the knowledge holder in
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Speaker 1: regard to the intangible claims made and he confirmed there
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Speaker 1: is no basis for these claims. You and your advisors
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Speaker 1: have rejected his advice and have disrespected a highly regarded
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Speaker 1: Woradjuri elder and knowledge holder. How dare you, yeah, by
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Speaker 1: listening to some other group, by listening to claim some
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Speaker 1: Morajuri elders think have been fabricated. The Minister not only
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Speaker 1: turned her back on the accepted holders of cultural knowledge
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Speaker 1: in that area, but she's insulted them. In the Senate
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Speaker 1: last night, Shadow Minister for Indigenous Tralians just sent a
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Speaker 1: naw per Jimper Price called for the band to be repealed.
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Speaker 2: Some of the evidence that was initially included in the application,
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Speaker 2: such as camp ovens and scar trees, were found upon
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Speaker 2: survey by an expert engaged by the Orange Local Aboriginal
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Speaker 2: Land Council to be in authentic, inauthenticity.
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Speaker 1: It's a big claim. And today I spoke to a
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Speaker 1: senior Worrajeri leader closely involved in this process and closely
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Speaker 1: related to one of the elders who examined the cultural
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Speaker 1: heritage issues, and the leader told me he was very
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Speaker 1: concerned that the Minister's taken the word of an outside group.
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Speaker 1: I just know that group are not an authority body,
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Speaker 1: not under land rights and not under native title. He
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Speaker 1: said they were speaking on country they can't speak for,
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Speaker 1: and he explained how the Orange Aboriginal Land Council has
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Speaker 1: had examined all this very carefully. We've run those claims
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Speaker 1: through our Cultural officer and our orders and they've been
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Speaker 1: assessed as not authentic. It basically means that we don't
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Speaker 1: believe their narrative. There is no tangible evidence of initiation
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Speaker 1: spots or other cultural evidence to support their claims. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: a gold mine now blocked by a secret claim that
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Speaker 1: the local indigenous authorities say is rubbish.
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Speaker 2: And the reality is this declaration must be disallowed because
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Speaker 2: the evidence that it was all just an ideological ploy
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Speaker 2: is too strong to ignore. I for one, will not
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Speaker 2: let Indigenous Australians be taken advantage of. I will not
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Speaker 2: let them be used as weapons to further the agenda
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Speaker 2: of this Albanze government.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, strong words there from magician to Naberjiba Price. But
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Speaker 1: Plibisek is not only in denial about the suspicions raised,
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Speaker 1: she's also got the process completely upside down.
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Speaker 3: What I certainly wouldn't do is do what those opposites
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Speaker 3: seem to be doing, which is saying, we don't need
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Speaker 3: to look at the evidence, we don't need to read
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Speaker 3: the reports, we don't need to hear from the experts.
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Speaker 3: We're just going to tick it off because we like
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Speaker 3: the look of it.
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Speaker 1: But it's Plik. It's the minister who's cherry picked the evidence.
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Speaker 1: There's no question the orange Land Council is the authority
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Speaker 1: for cultural heritage in this area and they're happy for
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Speaker 1: the mine and the tailing dam tailings Dam to go ahead.
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Speaker 1: It's the minister who's overruled those indigenous orders and chosen
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Speaker 1: to listen to a group fifty kilometers away in Bathurst,
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Speaker 1: some of them with tenuous links to the region, and
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Speaker 1: who have come up with secretive claims that the local
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Speaker 1: custodians dispute. If Plibasik is really interested in protecting and
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Speaker 1: respecting Indigenous heritage, she's got to overturn the ban or
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Speaker 1: at least properly re examine the cultural heritage claims. Now,
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Speaker 1: that's the hard stuff on indigenous affairs, the stuff that
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Speaker 1: allows developments, that helps to create certainty, enables jobs to
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Speaker 1: be created for everyone, including indigenous communities and labors stuffing
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Speaker 1: it up, surprise, surprise. But across government and business and media,
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Speaker 1: there's plenty of people doing what they think is the
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Speaker 1: easy stuff on indigenous issues, plenty of pointless and even
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Speaker 1: counterproductive virtue signaling. And one viewer has drawn my attention
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Speaker 1: to a classic example today. Have a look at the
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Speaker 1: Bendigo and Adelaide Bank website and look at the little
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Speaker 1: bios for their executive team. The CEO, Richard Fanell, tells
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Speaker 1: us he lives on the traditional lands of the Ghana people,
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Speaker 1: But conveniently he adds that's that they live on the
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Speaker 1: Adelaide plans, which is not what the Gharana people, of
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Speaker 1: course called those planes back in the day. But there
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Speaker 1: you go, we know he lives in Adelaide. Then there's
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Speaker 1: Sarah Bateson, the marketing officer, who lives on the lands
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Speaker 1: of the Judjar warring people of the Kulan nation. And
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry some of you might know, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know where that is. But what about the Transformation Officer,
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Speaker 1: whatever that is, Ryan Brosnahan. He says he lives on
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Speaker 1: the sovereign lands of the Wruandari Warong and Banyarong Boon
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Speaker 1: Warong peoples of the Eastern Coulan. Now again, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: I don't know where that is, but I can tell
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Speaker 1: you what he says is nonsense, because wherever they are,
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Speaker 1: they're not sovereign lands. The sovereignty in this country belongs
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Speaker 1: to the This is pretty silly stuff, and I'm all
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Speaker 1: in favor, as you know, of welcome to country messages
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Speaker 1: in the right place and the right time. It's great
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Speaker 1: for all of us to know the indigenous history of
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Speaker 1: whatever area we're in. But this is just ridiculous virtue signaling,
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Speaker 1: and it's insulting to customers who might actually want to
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Speaker 1: know where the executive team of their regional bank lives.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if the Adelaide and Bendigo Bank was really
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Speaker 1: serious about this stuff, wouldn't they change the name of
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Speaker 1: the bank to the Ghana and Jara Bank. Wouldn't that
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Speaker 1: be putting their money where their wokeness is. Many people
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Speaker 1: in the Western world have lost all grip on reality
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Speaker 1: and all grip on humanity when it comes to life
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Speaker 1: and death, peace and war, Israel and Hummas. Whether it's
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Speaker 1: street or university protests against Israel, political pronounces, or ugly
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Speaker 1: acts of intimidation against Jews, it all comes back to
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Speaker 1: the same central points. People who do not see Hummus
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Speaker 1: as the epitome of evil, and people who do not
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Speaker 1: support Israeli efforts to eradicate Hummas can only do so
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Speaker 1: for one of two reasons. Either they are completely ignorant
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Speaker 1: deliberately ignorant. They do not understand why Hummus exists, what
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Speaker 1: it has done, and what it continues to do to
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Speaker 1: innocent people and its own Palestinian population. Nobody who actually
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Speaker 1: understands the facts about Hummas would ever say or do
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Speaker 1: anything that could be construed as support for them, nor
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Speaker 1: would they oppose efforts to defeat them, unless, of course,
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Speaker 1: they are motivated by the second reason hatred, evil, bloodthirsty
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Speaker 1: hatred of certain other people. Hates Jews, of course, but
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Speaker 1: also any of a range of others. It hates Christians, Hindus, Gays, lesbians, Americans.
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Speaker 1: If you're anything other than an Islamist fundamentalist, then you
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Speaker 1: are fair game for slaughter. According to Hamas mind you,
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Speaker 1: this death cult is happy to sacrifice its own young
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Speaker 1: people as suicide bombers and as human shills in order
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Speaker 1: to deliver death to Israelis and its other enemies. It
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Speaker 1: trains young people as suicide bombers. It teaches them from
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Speaker 1: a young age to hate Jews and aspire to martyrdom.
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Speaker 1: It is sick. It is against everything that Western liberal
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Speaker 1: democracies like Israel and like US represent, democracy, liberty, plurality, peace,
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Speaker 1: religious freedom, sexual diversity, women's rights, tolerance, and the rule
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Speaker 1: of law. Yet around in Sydney last night, the Hmas
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Speaker 1: name was plastered all around the Eastern Suburbs, an area
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Speaker 1: that hosts a large Jewish population, and the threatening word
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Speaker 1: of Hummas, which means Islamic Resistance movement, was sprayed on
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Speaker 1: bins and windows and bus stops alongside Jewish businesses and
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Speaker 1: Kosher shops. This is ugly anti Semitic, pro terrorist, pro
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Speaker 1: murder behavior, and it's just the latest in this epidemic
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Speaker 1: sweeping the world. In the United States, police have arrested
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Speaker 1: a man and claimed to have thwarted a planned major
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Speaker 1: terror attack against Jews in New York City.
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Speaker 4: The Justice Department says the attack was planned for October seventh,
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Speaker 4: which will mark one year since the Hamas attack on
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Speaker 4: Israel federal officials.
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Speaker 5: See Mohammad Shazeb Khan began posting on social media about
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Speaker 5: his support for ISIS back in November. He was trained
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Speaker 5: to create an offline cell of ISIS supporters who would
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Speaker 5: care a coordinated assault by using er style assault rifles
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Speaker 5: at Jewish chabbads in Brooklyn.
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Speaker 1: Thank god they stopped that plan. But security authorities are
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Speaker 1: on alert around the world, and don't forget, the terror
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Speaker 1: alert has been raised here too. And just to show
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Speaker 1: you how weak and warped the authorities are, have a
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Speaker 1: look at what happened at a pro Palestinian march in
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Speaker 1: London on the weekend. A couple of brave blokes stood
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Speaker 1: in front of the massive pro Palestinian march, the Sword
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Speaker 1: who chant hateful slogans like from the River to the Sea,
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Speaker 1: designed to intimidate Jews and deny the legitimacy of Israel.
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Speaker 1: And they held up a sign with a very important
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Speaker 1: and factual statement. Hamas is terrorist. That is exactly what
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Speaker 1: it is. A terrorist group by aspiration, by action, by
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Speaker 1: design and under the law, everyone in that march should
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Speaker 1: know that, so they can understand that, whether they intended
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Speaker 1: or not, they give sukka to the Hummas terrorists, the
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Speaker 1: same ones who shot dead six hostages the previous weekend.
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Speaker 1: Police and organizers say these couple of blokes with a
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Speaker 1: sign blocked the march, which clearly they didn't. Everyone could
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Speaker 1: have marched on by. As you can see now, you
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Speaker 1: can guess what happened next, can't you. Yeah, the blokes
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Speaker 1: standing up for life, for liberty, standing up for decency
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Speaker 1: and for Israel, they were seen as the problem, not
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Speaker 1: the people. In a protest where many provide support and
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Speaker 1: encouragement for the terrorists of Hummus, the police moved in
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Speaker 1: and detained the people denouncing the terrorist group.
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Speaker 6: Just continue with the.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we've come to in the West. The
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Speaker 1: people denouncing terrorism are arrested and taken away, and we
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Speaker 1: clear the streets for people who blame Israel for the
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Speaker 1: way its own people who have been slaughtered, Protesters who
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Speaker 1: blame Israel for Humus taking babies and young girls and
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Speaker 1: men and women as hostages, and they blame Israel for
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Speaker 1: Humas raping and torturing them, and they blame Israel for
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Speaker 1: Hamas slaughtering them in cold blood. And they blame Israel
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Speaker 1: for Humus firing rockets at Israeli towns and trying to
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Speaker 1: kill innocent children at schools or at bus stops. This
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Speaker 1: stuff is so morally repugnant, so intellectually perverse, and yet
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Speaker 1: it's so widespread that we have people spray painting the
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Speaker 1: word hum Us on our streets. We need strong community
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Speaker 1: and political leadership on these issues before we descended to
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Speaker 1: chaos and dystopia, and we're not seeing it, not in Britain,
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Speaker 1: not in the US, not in Europe, and not here
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Speaker 1: in Australia. Now. I can't wait to see the Trump
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Speaker 1: Harris debate tomorrow. It could be the biggest political events since,
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Speaker 1: well since the last debate that saw Joe Biden implode.
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Speaker 1: But I want to show you something that's happened on
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Speaker 1: US television in the past twenty four hours. There's been
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Speaker 1: a little bit of scrutiny exposing just how left wing
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris is, exposing the Vice president's radical politics, and
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Speaker 1: it's come, of all places from CNN.
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Speaker 7: Have a look, let's just take immigration and look at
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Speaker 7: what she said here. She said on immigration, she made
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Speaker 7: this open ended pledge to and immigrant attention. She said
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Speaker 7: she supported taxpayer funded gender transition surgeries for deteen migrants.
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Speaker 6: She also said she's.
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Speaker 8: Saxpair funded transition surgeries for de team.
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Speaker 6: She actually said she supported.
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Speaker 7: She wrote both wrote and answered in the affirmative when
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Speaker 7: she was asked this, and she said she also supported
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Speaker 7: it for a federal prisoners.
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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm publicly funded gender reassignment for illegal immigrants. Talk
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Speaker 1: about your mainstream concerns, talk about making America woke again.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has plenty of faults, for sure, but he's
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Speaker 1: a known quantity. Nobody really knows how bad Kamala Harris
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Speaker 1: could be. I'll preview the debate later with Kristen. Let's
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Speaker 1: go to the National Capital now and bring in the
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Speaker 1: National's Senate leader, Bridget mackenzie alive from Canberra. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: joining us, Bridget to first up your thoughts on the
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Speaker 1: farmers bringing their message to Canberra today.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was absolutely fantastic to have thousands of Australian
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Speaker 9: primary producers and those whose support them through the supply
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Speaker 9: chain and in our suburbs here in the nation's capital.
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Speaker 9: We know that the Labor Party has an anti farming agenda.
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Speaker 9: It's not just the banning of the live sheep trade.
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Speaker 9: We know they're coming for live cattle necks.
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Speaker 8: They're started water buybacks.
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Speaker 9: In the Murray Darling basin, which will decimate food production
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Speaker 9: right throughout the Murray Darling base and indeed Scope three
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Speaker 9: emissions also making you know, primary producers have to account
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Speaker 9: for those to access finance. So on every measure the
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Speaker 9: Labor Party is failing primary producers. And to have them
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Speaker 9: all in the capital making their voices heard, I think
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Speaker 9: was incredibly powerful. Unfortunately, the Prime ministers sat in this
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Speaker 9: ivory castle along with the former Agriculture Minister Murray Watt
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Speaker 9: and the current Agriculture Minister Julie Collins, and we've just
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Speaker 9: finished a debate in the Senate calling them out on that,
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Speaker 9: and many of the ministers and Labor Party senators derided
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Speaker 9: the farmers and the rally. It just really shows the
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Speaker 9: contempt they hold the nine million of us who don't
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Speaker 9: live in capital cities.
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Speaker 1: You're right in the nation's capital. They demonstrated that contempt. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: They've criticized Coalition leaders in the past. We're not going
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Speaker 1: out and meeting various protests, but a bunch of farmers,
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Speaker 1: you think you'd either go and chat to them or
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Speaker 1: have a delegation come inside. I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: something else, and it's about the Prime Minister's lack of
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Speaker 1: political leadership. We talked yesterday about the push to try
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Speaker 1: and keep kids off social media, put the pressure on
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Speaker 1: the digital giants to block kids from joining social media,
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Speaker 1: and it was led by the South Australian Labor Premier
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Speaker 1: Peter Malinowskis. Here he is.
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Speaker 10: We see kids being done harm. We know that's true
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Speaker 10: from a growing body of international peer reviewed research. So
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Speaker 10: it's time for governments to act. And you know, I
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Speaker 10: don't think any leader around the country should sit on
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Speaker 10: their hands in this matter.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's Australia going your own way. Before our
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Speaker 1: show finished last night, I was able to report that
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Speaker 1: Victoria was following suit. New South Wales's following suit. Now
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Speaker 1: Anthony Alberanesi's going to do it. I mean who's running
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Speaker 1: the country, Peter Malanowskis or Anthony Alberanzi.
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Speaker 9: Well, I'd like to say Peter Dutton because it was
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Speaker 9: DUTs that came out with this very sensible suggestion. Because
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Speaker 9: any of us who are parents know what's happening to
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Speaker 9: our young people, particularly young women from sixteen to twenty
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Speaker 9: four and the impact of social media. Part of the
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Speaker 9: great privilege of working in places like Parliament house holding
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Speaker 9: leadership positions is to use that for social good. And
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Speaker 9: that's exactly what Premier Melanowskis has done. It's exactly what
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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton's done. And you know, slow clap for the
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Speaker 9: Prime minister who's finally got on board what every parent's
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Speaker 9: been screaming for for years.
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Speaker 1: Good, good, Thanks for joining us, Bridget. The next reform
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Speaker 1: should be to ban all politicians from social media. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining us, Senator Bridget McKenzie there live from Canberra.
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Speaker 1: I want to continue on this issue, talk about the
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Speaker 1: real human aspects of it, and I want to bring
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Speaker 1: in our regular guests and regular expert child and adolescent psychologists.
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Speaker 1: Clear Row, good to talk to you again. Clear You
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Speaker 1: must be very pleased to see now some national action
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Speaker 1: going down this path. It's going to be difficult, but
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Speaker 1: well worth pursuing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Chris. This is a significant development following a
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Speaker 4: conversation that we haven't had for that long, really, and
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Speaker 4: so a lot of movement has been made.
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Speaker 11: So I'm thrilled.
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Speaker 4: I mean, following off from what Uster said with Bridget,
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Speaker 4: I mean I think it is an easy political win.
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Speaker 8: I'm welcoming it.
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Speaker 4: I'm not criticizing him, but it might be something that
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Speaker 4: he can take to the election. He has said that
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Speaker 4: he wants it done in this parliamentary term. This isn't
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Speaker 4: an election promise, and he is following suit now with
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Speaker 4: most of the premiers have come out and said it.
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Speaker 4: So I guess the conversation now needs to move on
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Speaker 4: to how it's going to be implemented and what age Importantly,
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Speaker 4: is Alban easy going to suggest?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, yeah, there's a bit of a different approaches
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Speaker 1: on that. We'll come back to that. I'll just show
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Speaker 1: you what a little bit of what the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: said today. It's not easy.
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Speaker 12: We accept that and the result mightn't be perfect, but
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Speaker 12: we need to try to make a difference here because
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Speaker 12: this is something that is causing social harm.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So the method is going to be mainly
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Speaker 1: putting the onus on the digital giants. It's up to
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Speaker 1: them to make sure they have a way of verifying
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Speaker 1: people's age and keeping them off and find if they're
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Speaker 1: not doing that properly, what do you say about age?
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Speaker 1: South Australia was looking at fourteen. Others have said sixteen
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Speaker 1: is fourteen more realistic.
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Speaker 4: I don't think if we're going to say thirteen or
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Speaker 4: fourteen years old, it's really going to make much difference.
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Speaker 8: That's the problem.
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Speaker 4: The whole point of this is to be able to
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Speaker 4: empower parents to tell kids no, it's against the law. Now,
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Speaker 4: all these social media companies all say you have to
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Speaker 4: be thirteen years to get onto them, and of course
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Speaker 4: anyone under thirteen is just entering fake birth dates. And
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Speaker 4: I think that that's one hundred percent the fault of parents.
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Speaker 4: It should be, you know, parental responsibility not to get
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Speaker 4: your kids to do that. But you know, Melan asked this,
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Speaker 4: suggesting that at between thirteen and fifteen they require parental consent. Well,
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Speaker 4: that's what it is now, and we're trying to get
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Speaker 4: the pressure off parents. Every single preteen I talk to
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Speaker 4: in my office knows when I'm thirteen, I'm going to
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Speaker 4: get social media. And so if the legislation just says, oh, well,
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Speaker 4: we need parental consent when you're fourteen, that's kind of.
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Speaker 6: What it should be.
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Speaker 4: Now, and I don't think pressure will be alleviated. So
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Speaker 4: I'm with campaigns like the thirty six month campaign, and
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Speaker 4: I'm advocating for an age of sixteen.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, sixteen sounds sensible. All that's happening just
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Speaker 1: when they're getting into the point the end of their
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Speaker 1: school and might be better to leave it delay theeen.
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Speaker 8: Well that's true, that's true.
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Speaker 4: It could be a distraction, then that's absolutely true.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well sixteen. Keep pushing for that because and as
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Speaker 1: you say, this is where the argument is going to be.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be around the implementation and crucially that age.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep in touch on it. Claire, thanks so much
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Speaker 1: for joining us. Claire row there google her podcast too.
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Speaker 1: She's got the podcast out with some fascinating interviews. Got
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Speaker 1: to get to a break. On the other side, we're
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Speaker 1: going to catch up with Stephen Senate Tiempo and Christy McSweeney.
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Speaker 1: You want to talk about how we've seen videos of
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Speaker 1: league players sniffing white power now allegedly a video of
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Speaker 1: a senior politician. Plus Princess Kate opens up about her
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Speaker 1: battle with cancer. Let's rip through a few issues of
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Speaker 1: the day with Christian McSweeney, Managing Director of PR Council,
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Speaker 1: and Steven Sena Tiempo Radio two Double Seed Breakfast hosting camera.
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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you both again. First up, I
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Speaker 1: just want to get your thoughts on this Humus graffiti
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Speaker 1: in the Jewish areas of Sydney. I get your head
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Speaker 1: around the fact that someone would be spraypainting the name
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Speaker 1: Hummas around these areas.
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Speaker 13: Christie, I think it's a terribly sad indictment on where
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Speaker 13: we are as a society, where we have let antisemitism
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Speaker 13: go one checked for fear of not wanting to penalize people,
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Speaker 13: of not wanting to be accused of racism or anti
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Speaker 13: free speech or whatever. Cause people are scared of prosecuting
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Speaker 13: these days, whether it be law enforcement or government, and
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Speaker 13: that has led to this ever increasing anti Semitism that
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Speaker 13: we've seen in Australia not since the last century. And
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Speaker 13: it's really really dangerous and really disturbing.
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Speaker 1: If they get these people, they'd better be charged with
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Speaker 1: more than just graffiti, because this is hate speech, this
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Speaker 1: is intimidation, this is threatening and Steve and I don't
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Speaker 1: know what worries me more whether these people don't really
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Speaker 1: understand what they're supporting here or whether they do.
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Speaker 6: Well. I think it's probably a bit of both.
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Speaker 11: And the problem is is we for too long we
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Speaker 11: allowed anti Semitism to masquerade itself as a pro Palestinian
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Speaker 11: movement when we all knew that it was proho Maus
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Speaker 11: and anti Submitic from the very beginning. And there was
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Speaker 11: no leadership on this, particularly on a university campuses. And
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Speaker 11: then we saw that protest in Perth outside of Jewish school.
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Speaker 11: I mean, what a school kid's got to do with
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Speaker 11: any of this. I mean, it's just it's getting beyond
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Speaker 11: a joke now and we need somebody to come out
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Speaker 11: and be explicitly condemning of this activity. And it needs
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Speaker 11: to start at the very top.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Albernizi has just been absent without leave on this stuff.
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Speaker 1: It's tragic the lack of leadership, and to be honest,
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Speaker 1: the state governments haven't been any better, and there's just
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Speaker 1: got to be more. You know, it's too late now
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Speaker 1: in many ways because the sort of genies out of
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Speaker 1: the BOBB, but they need to get back onto it
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Speaker 1: because it's getting worse. Let me go to another area
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Speaker 1: where the states are letting us down. Christy, you're there
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Speaker 1: in Melbourne and this just sit there al on short
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Speaker 1: term stay tax, the airbn B tax. This is shaping
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Speaker 1: up a recent studies looked at this and as expected,
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Speaker 1: it's not going to free up housing for long term
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Speaker 1: renters and all the rest of it. People who use
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Speaker 1: their properties for Airbnb are still going to do it.
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Speaker 1: It's just like idiots like me who are going down
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Speaker 1: to Melbourne for the footy or whatever are going to
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Speaker 1: have to pay more and maybe we won't go. Well,
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Speaker 1: maybe we won't go.
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Speaker 13: And I used to work in tourism, so I used
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Speaker 13: to work for Quantitson in New Zealand, which means that
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Speaker 13: I know where to find tourism research. Tourism research and
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Speaker 13: visitation is segmented into international, interstate and interstate. That's people
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Speaker 13: from within Victoria wanting to holiday in Victoria such as
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Speaker 13: the Mornington Peninsula and so forth. They need somewhere to
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Speaker 13: stay to buoy the economic circumstances of many regional communities
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Speaker 13: that depend on tourism. And of course the Victorian government
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Speaker 13: has brought in this absolutely huge land tax for people
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Speaker 13: across many different categories, so they're trying to penalize people
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Speaker 13: who own the houses and can still afford to hold
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Speaker 13: on to them. But then if they want to get
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Speaker 13: an income from those houses to pay the land tax bill,
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Speaker 13: they're not allowed to do that either. I don't think
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Speaker 13: many people looking for crisis accommodation or people desperately trying
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Speaker 13: to find a rental accommodation are looking at holiday homes
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Speaker 13: in regional Victoria.
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Speaker 1: It's the same old mentality of the left, isn't it, Stephen.
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Speaker 1: There is never a problem they see that they don't
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Speaker 1: think can be fixed with more spending or a new tax.
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Speaker 6: But it's just the stupidity of it.
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Speaker 11: I mean, the Greens have got a similar policy here
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Speaker 11: in Canberra and hopefully it doesn't get implemented, but somehow
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Speaker 11: they think if you put a five or six percent
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Speaker 11: tax on a multimillion dollar mansion, somehow people are going
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Speaker 11: to drop the rental price by half and rent it
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Speaker 11: out to somebody that can't afford to live somewhere. I mean,
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Speaker 11: it's just it's absolute madness, and it's driven by people,
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Speaker 11: and sadly, I mean, we've got somebody that's actually in
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Speaker 11: government and Victoria doing this, but it's driven by an
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Speaker 11: ideology of a party that is never going to have
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Speaker 11: to govern and that's the problem with a lot of
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Speaker 11: these left wing policies.
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Speaker 1: Now, if you follow sport and you're living in New
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Speaker 1: South Wales or Queenslane, you'd be pretty familiar with the
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Speaker 1: NRL scandals and the video tapes of players allegedly sniffing
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Speaker 1: white substances. Latoral Mitchell the rabbit, O's champer under a
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Speaker 1: cloud with that sort of stuff at the moment. But
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Speaker 1: I've got to share this astonishing story in South Australia
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Speaker 1: where the former Liberal leader, the bloke who was Opposition
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Speaker 1: leader up until just a few weeks ago there has
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Speaker 1: been the subject of this video. We can show you
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Speaker 1: the video now. It's been a story broken by the
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Speaker 1: Adelaide Advertiser and they're showing this video that purports to
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Speaker 1: be David Spears, the former Opposition leader sniffing a white powder.
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Speaker 1: Now Spears says this is not him. It's a deep
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Speaker 1: fake video and he was asked about it. He's some
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Speaker 1: genoes catching up with him. Did not sort a white powder?
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Speaker 1: I certainly did not.
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Speaker 6: That is very trouble man.
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Speaker 14: Have you it was a video taken in the last
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Speaker 14: months of your leadership.
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Speaker 6: Way, it was not you, No, definitely not.
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Speaker 1: I would never have done that. Never are you You've
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Speaker 1: never never there you go, well, very legally sensitive the
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Speaker 1: advertise everyone reporting this saying they're not suggesting anything proper here,
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Speaker 1: he says, deep fate, But quite rightly. Christy, the bloke
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Speaker 1: is now the leader of the opposition, says well, if
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Speaker 1: he believes this is a deep fake video and malicious,
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Speaker 1: he ought to take it to police, report it to
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Speaker 1: police and have it fully investigated.
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Speaker 13: Oh look, it's one person's word against what I understand is,
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Speaker 13: you know, some allegations or some protestations. And of course
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Speaker 13: people don't realize that. Even in state politics where lots
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Speaker 13: of people don't know who you are or recognize you,
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Speaker 13: the minute something happens to you that's even slightly controversial,
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Speaker 13: you are reminded that in public life nothing is off limits,
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Speaker 13: certainly not now in the social media age, and your behavior,
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Speaker 13: anything that you do is open up to public scrutiny,
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Speaker 13: and that includes things you don't do that people want
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Speaker 13: to suggests you have so preventing yourself from all quarters.
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Speaker 1: But bottom line, Stephen, if this is a malicious deep
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Speaker 1: fake video, it deserves to be investigated.
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Speaker 6: No doubt about it.
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Speaker 11: But I think it sets a really dangerous precedency here.
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Speaker 6: And look, God don't want to get into the individual
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Speaker 6: issue here or.
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Speaker 11: What David Spears might have done or not done. But
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Speaker 11: the reality of this is if this is a deep
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Speaker 11: fake and this ability exists out there, well, then no
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Speaker 11: political opponent is ever safe moving forward. And if it's not,
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Speaker 11: it then becomes a convenient excuse for people who have
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Speaker 11: done something wrong. And we the people are stuck in
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Speaker 11: the middle of this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why they've got to get to the
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Speaker 1: bottom of it. You can't just brush it aside. You
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Speaker 1: got to find out what's going on here. I want
30:18
Speaker 1: to talk about Princess Cave. Everybody's been worried about her health.
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Speaker 1: Shocking for a young mother and her situation to be
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Speaker 1: going through cancer. I know so many thousands of women do,
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Speaker 1: and obviously there's a lot of public interest in her case.
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Speaker 1: So her video today sharing some good news about that
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Speaker 1: has been obviously dominating right around the world. Have a
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Speaker 1: look some of it.
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Speaker 15: Doing what I can to stay cancer free is now
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Speaker 15: my focus. Although I have finished chemotherapy, my path to
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Speaker 15: healing and full recovery is long, and I must continue
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Speaker 15: to take each day as it comes. I am, however,
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Speaker 15: looking forward to being back at work and undertaking a
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Speaker 15: few more public engagements in the coming months when I can.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on her. We wish her all the best, Christie.
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Speaker 1: But isn't she a model in class and dignity compared
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Speaker 1: to her brother and sister in law across in the States.
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Speaker 1: I think they're about the launch their next Netflix doc ho.
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Speaker 13: I think it's a very obvious and easy comparison to
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Speaker 13: make today, isn't it After seeing that video which was
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Speaker 13: very Hollywood produced, but it was also authentic. It was
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Speaker 13: also genuine. I think it also spoke from Kate William's
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Speaker 13: heart and reached a lot of people whose families and
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Speaker 13: loved ones have been touched by cancer, and that was
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Speaker 13: the intent of it. Yes, it had a lot of
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Speaker 13: beautiful production, but it still was really genuine as opposed
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Speaker 13: yes to Megan and Harry who just do Hollywood for
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Speaker 13: Hollywood's sake.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good footage. It's just out in the
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Speaker 1: out of the scrub with the kids having a walker,
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Speaker 1: and it looks pretty authentic to me.
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Speaker 6: Stephen.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, look, I think this is great years because you know,
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Speaker 11: whether you whatever you think of the monarchy. What this
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Speaker 11: family has gone through in the public eye for the
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Speaker 11: last couple of years. Both grandparents pass away. His Majesty
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Speaker 11: the King is diagnosed with cancer, the Princess of Wales
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Speaker 11: is diagnosed with cancy. You've got the idiot over in
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Speaker 11: Los Angeles trying to bring the entire family down. No
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Speaker 11: other family could actually sustain this in the public either way.
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Speaker 6: They have so finally some good years and I think
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Speaker 6: you're right.
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Speaker 11: She is the picture of grace, and you know, I
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Speaker 11: think long live the monarchy if she's the next in line.
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Speaker 1: Good stuff. Thanks for joining us, Stephen and Christie, appreciate.
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Speaker 1: Its going to get off to a break. On the
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Speaker 1: other side, we're going to keep talking about those fed
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Speaker 1: up farmers invading the Canberra bubble today. Also the Great
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Speaker 1: Debate less than a day away. Now I'll catch up
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Speaker 1: with Kristen Tate. As we mentioned, farmers descended on Canberra today,
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Speaker 1: voicing a whole range of concerns, from labours phasing out
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Speaker 1: of live sheep exports to the impact of transmission lines
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Speaker 1: and so called green projects taking over prime farmland right
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Speaker 1: across the country. There was even a bit of argie
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Speaker 1: bargie between a farmer and National's leader David Little Proud
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Speaker 1: over water buybacks.
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Speaker 16: One word you say, let me tell you what I
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Speaker 16: did for the Murray Darling.
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Speaker 6: Let me tell you you got the Northern Base review.
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Speaker 16: We saved seventy gigaeleaders being taken out of the Northern
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Speaker 16: basin my own home community. So I'm happy to stand
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Speaker 16: here every day of the work and tell you what
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Speaker 16: I did as a water minister and the reforms I
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Speaker 16: put in place.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you're supposed to really get into the
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Speaker 1: argie bargie with them that I caught up with the
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Speaker 1: National Farmers Federation president David Jahinki and asked what he
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Speaker 1: thought of today's turnout.
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Speaker 17: Well, first of all, we've had farmers, you're quite right
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Speaker 17: to say, from around the nation, from Queensland to Western Australia,
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Speaker 17: Northern Territory to Tazzy and that's a fair effort for
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Speaker 17: individual businessmaness to take time off of their farms and
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Speaker 17: take time out of their fields and looking after their
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Speaker 17: livestock and crops to come to Canberra and.
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Speaker 8: Show their frustration that the current avalanche.
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Speaker 17: Bad ideas that's going to affect the future of agriculture.
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Speaker 8: To let alone, the confidence of farmers moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Yes, some came from Western Australia to Canberra obviously desperate
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Speaker 1: to save their own live a sheep export industry.
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Speaker 17: Absolutely, the issue around the live export of sheep sea
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Speaker 17: has been one of the catalysts behind the key frustrations
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Speaker 17: of agriculture. And it's not from the fact that agriculture
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Speaker 17: has evolved. We've seen some horrendous footage in the past
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Speaker 17: over seven years ago and the industry has invested means
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Speaker 17: of dollars to clean up its act and now we
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Speaker 17: are the world leaders and animal warfare in this trade
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Speaker 17: and the reward for doing that hard work. The fact
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Speaker 17: that Australian agriculture has invested so much is that it.
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Speaker 8: Still will get canceled.
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Speaker 17: So our concern is not only for that live sheep
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Speaker 17: industry and the way it has been treaded, but also
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Speaker 17: what next is on the chopping block, what other issues
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Speaker 17: that if the Government of the or if a deal
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Speaker 17: will be done, will be canceled.
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Speaker 1: It's extraordinary government looking at canceling export industries, sheep, coal, gas,
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Speaker 1: you name it. They want to scrap them. Now there
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Speaker 1: are a bunch of other issues concerning farmers around the country.
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Speaker 1: Renewable energy rollouts is a big one. Lots of threats
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Speaker 1: from the Greens when it comes to diesel fuel rebates.
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Speaker 1: There was a bit of argie bargie with David Little
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Speaker 1: Proud too over water buybacks. Just how angry are farmers
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Speaker 1: around the country.
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Speaker 17: Well, for starters, Australian agriculture is probably one of the
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Speaker 17: most progressive sectors globally as far as adopting new technology,
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Speaker 17: being world leaders in creating innovative ways to become more.
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Speaker 8: Effective in the climates that we work with.
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Speaker 17: So Australian agriculture and austrain farmers are some of.
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Speaker 8: The world's best.
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Speaker 17: But when it comes to issues around water usage, when
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Speaker 17: it comes to issues around red tape and even just
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Speaker 17: the environment that we find our businesses operating with, the.
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Speaker 8: Frustration is real.
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Speaker 17: Water is just the classic example of communities being decimated
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Speaker 17: by a policy that can be done far better if
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Speaker 17: we embrace some of the projects that should and could
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Speaker 17: be done to effectively use the environmental water that is
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Speaker 17: already in the system. And for us, we want to
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Speaker 17: exhaust all options before we take water out of communities.
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Speaker 1: Now, you, of course are represented by politicians right a
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Speaker 1: custom country. No matter how remote someone's area is, there's
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Speaker 1: still federal representation there. So why the need to go
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Speaker 1: to Canberra. Is there any sense that the Liberal or
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Speaker 1: National or the Coalition parties aren't doing enough to bring
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Speaker 1: this to the attention of the Labor government or is
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Speaker 1: more about your fears of the green agenda dominating with labor.
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Speaker 8: Well, first of all.
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Speaker 17: It is the responsibility for every politician in our grand
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Speaker 17: House of Government to stand up for what is the
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Speaker 17: right thing to do. And the right thing to do
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Speaker 17: isn't about doing a deal to get more votes. It's
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Speaker 17: about ensuring that the industry progresses and moves into the
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Speaker 17: moves forward, adopts the latest technology and it becomes more efficient.
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Speaker 17: That's what austrain farmers are good at doing. But what
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Speaker 17: we fear is that the current government is not engaging
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Speaker 17: as much as it should. And this is also a
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Speaker 17: warning to potential future governments that Australian farmers have had
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Speaker 17: a gupful of not being listened to and whoever's in
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Speaker 17: the seed of power needs to make sure that we
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Speaker 17: are their key stakeholder when it comes to agricultural issues
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Speaker 17: or regional communities because we are the backbone of those economies.
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Speaker 17: We are the backbone and the lifeblood of those regional
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Speaker 17: areas and we need all politicians to understand that if
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Speaker 17: you kick farmers enough, if you don't respect or understand
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Speaker 17: our points of view, we will make our voices heard.
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Speaker 17: And we don't take coming to Canberra lightly. We'd rather
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Speaker 17: be in our fields once again, looking after our livestock, hair, pasturees,
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Speaker 17: our crops.
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Speaker 8: We don't want to be in Canberra protesting.
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Speaker 17: But if that's what it takes to get the attention,
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Speaker 17: that's what we have to do to get the attention
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Speaker 17: of politicians, will do it.
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Speaker 8: But what would rather do is tell.
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Speaker 17: A good story to the community, tell our story to
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Speaker 17: the consumers about how we're actually improving the situation in
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Speaker 17: all types of commodity and all types of practices in
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Speaker 17: all parts of the nation. So for us, it is
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Speaker 17: as much of putting the politicians on notice, but also
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Speaker 17: connecting with consumers to let them know of the hard
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Speaker 17: work that we do daily.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good on your David. We'll certainly keep focusing on
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Speaker 1: some of these issues you're focused on, but I do
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Speaker 1: have a feeling you might need to get down to
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Speaker 1: Canberra again. That's just the way these things are.
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Speaker 8: Thanks for joining us, Thanks for the opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called the Bush Capital, isn't it. But too
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Speaker 1: many politicians, too many labor Greens and tills, don't really
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Speaker 1: know anything outside the parliamentary triangle or their own electorates.
38:49
Speaker 1: So maybe the little vineyards that they go to on
38:51
Speaker 1: the weekend. Now, it's almost debate day, as I mentioned earlier,
38:56
Speaker 1: less than eighteen hours now until Donald Trump and Kamala
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Speaker 1: Harris feist to face for the first time. You can
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Speaker 1: watch it live here on Sky at eleven o'clock Aston
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Speaker 1: Standard time. I asked Kristen Tight about expectations in the US.
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Speaker 18: Well, this truly could be the most important presidential debate
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Speaker 18: in modern political history. These two candidates are essentially tied,
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Speaker 18: although Kamala has gone down a few points in some
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Speaker 18: of the polls.
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Speaker 8: It seems like she.
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Speaker 18: Really hit a ceiling right before the DNC convention and
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Speaker 18: she's kind of gone down a little bit. But I mean, Chris,
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Speaker 18: this could be a turning point for Trump. I mean,
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Speaker 18: they both need this debate, but especially Trump, and I
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Speaker 18: think there are kind of four things, four themes Trump
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Speaker 18: needs to hammer home if he's going to win this debate.
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Speaker 18: The first is to tie Kamala to the Biden administration.
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Speaker 18: Don't let her run from that record of open borders
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Speaker 18: and inflation. The second is calling her out for not
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Speaker 18: answering questions and for running away from the press. The
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Speaker 18: third is to pin her to radical leftism. We all
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Speaker 18: know in twenty nineteen she was the most radical left
40:01
Speaker 18: wing senator in the United States. This is a woman
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Speaker 18: who wants to ban fracking, who wants to ban gas
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Speaker 18: powered cars, who wants to give illegal immigrants taxpayer funded healthcare.
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Speaker 18: And the fourth is just exposing her as a liar.
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Speaker 18: She's now running away from all those policies and trying
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Speaker 18: to tell us all she's a big moderate. If he
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Speaker 18: can stick to those four themes, he can have a
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Speaker 18: fantastic debate and really change these polls in his favor.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think they're four really good points. But he's also
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Speaker 1: going to remind disciplined and focused. He doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: come across as any sort of a bully, and he
40:32
Speaker 1: was like that in the debate against Joe Biden. So
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Speaker 1: we will see. Tell us about the talk on the
40:38
Speaker 1: street side is everyone is everyone talking better than the US,
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Speaker 1: everyone planning to watch it. Is it dominating discussion at
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Speaker 1: the moment?
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Speaker 18: Yes, this will have huge viewer ratings. Everyone's very interested
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Speaker 18: in Kamala because she's not really given any interviews, she
40:54
Speaker 18: doesn't interact much with reporters, she's not answering any questions,
40:58
Speaker 18: and she's running very confusing ads for her campaign. She's
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Speaker 18: literally running an ad right now for herself standing next
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Speaker 18: to Trump's border wall, claiming she's going to.
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Speaker 8: Be some tough person on the border.
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Speaker 18: What more, administration is currently allowing millions of them to
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Speaker 18: pour into the country. So there's a ton of anticipation
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Speaker 18: for this debate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be tough on the borders,
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Speaker 1: like it was my only job as vice president to
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Speaker 1: be tough on borders, and I'm totally filed. But if
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Speaker 1: you'll lilect me as president, then I'll be tough on borders.
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Speaker 1: It is quite pathetic. Now you talk about high viewership numbers.
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Speaker 1: One person who definitely will be watching, we're told, is
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Speaker 1: the sitting president. Remember him, he's still in the White House,
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And here's what his office has been briefing out.
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Speaker 1: The President is going to watch the debate.
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Speaker 12: He's looking forward to watching the debate.
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Speaker 2: As I'm not going to preview or confirm any conversations
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Speaker 2: between the President and the vice president, as you know
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Speaker 2: they speak often.
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Speaker 1: The President is ascredibly proud of the vice president. Well,
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Speaker 1: i'll tell you what I want to call that out
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Speaker 1: on two uns christened First, I reckon you'll stay up
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Speaker 1: if it's nine o'clock in the east, and I think
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden will be a wait for the debate. And secondly,
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Speaker 1: of course he's not briefing Kamala Harris. How could he
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Speaker 1: brief Kamala Harris. He doesn't know what Steady's in himself.
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Speaker 18: Of course, if I were Kamala Harris, I would take
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Speaker 18: all the notes from what Biden gives her in terms
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Speaker 18: of advice and just do the opposite of those things,
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Speaker 18: and she might actually have a decent debate. But of
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Speaker 18: course Biden won't be staying up late enough to watch
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Speaker 18: this debate. Nobody cares what he thinks about the debate.
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Speaker 18: Everyone knows he's effectively not president anymore. He's president in
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Speaker 18: nime only, so he's become totally irrelevant. People don't even
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Speaker 18: remember that he's in office, which is kind of terrifying.
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Speaker 18: But He's really not in the news cycle here in
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Speaker 18: the US much anymore.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday's man. Now, one person we heard from, we
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Speaker 1: don't hear from very often. We don't even see her
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Speaker 1: that often is Donald Trump's wife, Millenia. She's put out
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Speaker 1: a social media video. Let's have a look at.
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Speaker 6: Some of that.
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Speaker 19: America is more divided today than ever before. It has
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Speaker 19: become increasingly apparent that there are significant challenges to free speech,
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Speaker 19: as demonstrated by the efforts to silence my husband.
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Speaker 1: What don't we make of this, Christa. We don't say her,
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Speaker 1: We just hear her voice. I have a script and pictures.
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Speaker 1: What do we make of this?
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Speaker 18: No, I think it's fine. I don't think this ad
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Speaker 18: from Malania is going to move the needle very much.
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Speaker 18: The more she can get involved in a seemingly sincere way,
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Speaker 18: I think the better for Donald Trump, because he does
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Speaker 18: very well with male voters. Kamala is dominating right now
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Speaker 18: with women voters, particularly college educated women voters. So you know,
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Speaker 18: if Milania can reach out to those voters in a
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Speaker 18: meaningful way, great. I agree with you that it was
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Speaker 18: a little odd to just kind of hear her voice
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Speaker 18: with that black background and the words, but I don't
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Speaker 18: think it'll hurt Trump. And the more we can see
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Speaker 18: Malania the better because she's a beautiful, elegant woman who's
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Speaker 18: well spoken and seems to be quite lovely. So if
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Speaker 18: she can be an asset to Trump, it's great for
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Speaker 18: his campaign.
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Speaker 1: Well, we will see what the morrow brings. I cannot
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Speaker 1: wait for this debate. Thanks for joining us again, Kristin.
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Speaker 18: Thank you very much. Chris, that'll be interesting for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to catch up with Kristin after the
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Speaker 1: debate tomorrow, so we'll have plenty on that tomorrow night.
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Speaker 1: Don't miss it, and don't miss it at eleven o'clock
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Speaker 1: live here on Sky. Now we're going to take a break.
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Speaker 1: On the other side, I've got Tim Blair joining us,
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Speaker 1: Victoria's gas band is flaming out already, and the latest
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Speaker 1: appalling stunt from an infamous vegan protester. Let's catch up
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Speaker 1: with Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph. Good to talk
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Speaker 1: to you again, Tim. I thought we'd start off on
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Speaker 1: the tills because we know what the Greens are like.
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Speaker 1: We know the Greens hate Australia, they hate capitalism, they
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Speaker 1: hate Israel and all that sort of stuff. The Australian
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Speaker 1: has done this analysis of the tills in Parliament and
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Speaker 1: how often they vote with the Greens. It ranges from
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Speaker 1: seventy three percent to eighty one percent. They're pretty much
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Speaker 1: full time in agreement with the Greens. They've always looked
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Speaker 1: like just upper class Greens and now they're exposed.
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Speaker 20: Surely, I guarantee you as well, Chris, that the minority
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Speaker 20: part of that equation, the bit that isn't in the
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Speaker 20: seventy percent, that would be related to taxation issues and
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Speaker 20: other things that keep the Teals richer than the Greens.
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Speaker 20: The other things are sort of where it's like, oh
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Speaker 20: my god, you know, inheritance sort of issues, and taxes
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Speaker 20: on third properties and so on. That's the issues where
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Speaker 20: they'd split with the Greens. But the rest of the time,
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Speaker 20: as you note, and as The Australian noted, Jeff Chambers
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Speaker 20: reporting lockstep all the way.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are shockers and it's good to see them
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Speaker 1: expose like that. They're the running mates of the Greens,
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Speaker 1: as you say, except when it comes to making their
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Speaker 1: constituents pay more tax. Look, you're coming to a season
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Speaker 1: two from Victoria. We've got to talk about this gas band,
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Speaker 1: they're going to stop people putting gas into their new homes.
45:57
Speaker 1: But now just sint Alan has asked has to do
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Speaker 1: a bit of a bit backflip on that. Here's the premium.
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Speaker 14: We are wanting to make it clear to Victorians that
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Speaker 14: they can continue to keep cooking with gas. We also
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Speaker 14: want to support households and businesses to make the transition
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Speaker 14: to more electric appliances because it's a cheaper form of energy.
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Speaker 1: Oh, electricity is cheaper. That's why they want us to
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Speaker 1: use it. I mean, they're just not interested in the truth.
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Speaker 1: But my point here is all right, they're going to
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Speaker 1: say you can still have a gas cook top grade
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Speaker 1: you need your gas heater as well. You might not
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Speaker 1: in the wimmoro. Maybe you got lots of firewood to burn.
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Speaker 6: We need it.
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Speaker 8: Oh you got to have your gas fire surely.
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Speaker 20: Absolutely, we've got multiples. We've got the multiple energy and
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Speaker 20: heat sources, and we're always craving more. But anyway, to
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Speaker 20: conclude your point, Chris.
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Speaker 1: I'll just say it's no good just bringing back gas stoves.
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Speaker 1: You've got to let people have gas heaters. Do It's
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Speaker 1: our choice, not hers.
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Speaker 20: Absolutely, And I'd like to hear as well, if anyone
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Speaker 20: asked the Premier, you're following that state. But about electricity
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Speaker 20: being cheaper, why why is it cheaper than gas? Why
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Speaker 20: is gas expensive? You know, We've got tons of the
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Speaker 20: stuff Australia. I keep telling these people. I'm just back
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Speaker 20: from the US, as you know, and I was telling
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Speaker 20: people across the US. You know, we've got every energy
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Speaker 20: source you can possibly name in Australia. At a small population,
47:17
Speaker 20: energy should be the cheapest thing in Australia. Everything should
47:19
Speaker 20: be cheap, you know, given that energy is our base.
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Speaker 20: I'd also make the point that with the attempt earlier
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Speaker 20: to sort of get rid of gas, it's as though
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Speaker 20: these people sit around and decide what do people like
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Speaker 20: and how can we take it away from them? You know,
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Speaker 20: they seem to like cars, well let's give them crappy evs.
47:38
Speaker 20: They seem to like gas, well let's take that away
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Speaker 20: from them. They always keep moving in on the things
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Speaker 20: that people like, and then they express confusion and amazement
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Speaker 20: when there's a backlash. How can it possibly be, Chris unbelievable?
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Speaker 1: Closing off all of our great export industries. This is
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Speaker 1: their aim. It is bizarre stuff. I wish people would
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Speaker 1: quickly wake up to it all. I want to go
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Speaker 1: to one of these vs and protests as I hate
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Speaker 1: showing them in a way, but I just want to
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Speaker 1: show what idiots they are. This this Tash Peterson's got
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Speaker 1: into strife lots of times in Western Australia. Now she's
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Speaker 1: splashed fake blood all over her body and run around
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Speaker 1: in a bikini. And here's what she's got to say
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Speaker 1: about it.
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Speaker 21: Just last week I was convicted with two more offenses,
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Speaker 21: criminal damage and disorderly conduct the pouring fake blood all
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Speaker 21: over a butcher store. I was fined over two thousand dollars,
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Speaker 21: with one hundred dollars going to cover the butcher's cleaning costs.
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Speaker 21: It's absurd that pouring fake blood all over a butcher's
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Speaker 21: store to bring attention to animal abuse is viewed as
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Speaker 21: a crime.
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Speaker 1: Can't you just go away? And you know I pour
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Speaker 1: fake blood over a fake animal. I mean, I know
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Speaker 1: what she's doing.
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Speaker 20: Well, here's the idea, Chris, here's how we fix this.
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Speaker 20: Here's how we get rid of these protests once and
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Speaker 20: for all. We've already seen just last month, how Australia,
48:54
Speaker 20: through the great work of Raygun, destroyed, removed breaked down
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Speaker 20: dancing as an Olympic sport.
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Speaker 6: It's gone.
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Speaker 20: After that tremendous effort, break dancing is no more. I
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Speaker 20: say we elevate Peter Protests to an Olympic level, install
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Speaker 20: this tash person as our leading competitor, embarrass everyone in
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Speaker 20: front of the entire planet again, embarrass whole nation, and
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Speaker 20: then double say there's no more such. That's all gone,
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Speaker 20: that's scrubbed, there's no more Peter Protests. Let's do something
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Speaker 20: else that actually makes sense.
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Speaker 1: I just take her out there in that bloodied bikini
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Speaker 1: and leave her in the bush and let her put
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Speaker 1: up with all the bush flies. How she goes with that.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Tim, will catch you later in
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Speaker 1: the week. Tim Blair that you can read his stuff
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Speaker 1: in the Daily Telegraph. We've got Peter Kredlin coming up next.
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Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow night. We'll talk about that great debate.
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Speaker 1: See you then,