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The DiCecco Daily: Providing Some Clarity From Coordinators Press Conferences · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's going on? Everybody?
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: Welcome into this edition of to Checho Daily. It's Andrew
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: de Checo here of Inside the Birds dot Com. And
• 0:17
  Speaker 2: it's Tuesday, which means it was coordinator day at the
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Eagles Novacare Complex. Defensive coordinator Fic Fangio, special teams coordinator
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: Michael Clay and offensive coordinator Kevin Patulo answered a lot
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: of questions today that had to do with the Giants
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: game and how the Eagles might be able to rectify
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: things on those respective sides of the ball to head
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: things in the positive direction moving forward. And it was
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: a mini bye week, which means the Eagles had a
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: couple of extra days.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: To gain plan for the Minnesota Vikings.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: They're traveling to Minnesota this weekend and it's going to
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: be a challenging matchup because Brian Flores tends to throw
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: a lot at opposing quarterbacks defensively, and they have a
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: lot of pieces there that I think lend itself to
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: being able to have healthy rotations getting after the quarterback.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: And that's not even to mention the offensive side of
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: the ball, where they have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: tight end TJ. Hockinson, so they have a lot of
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: optionality there. So the Eagles defense is going to be
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: tested this week, no doubt. So with that, why don't
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: we start with some of the some of my takeaways
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: from Vic vangio tentative changes at number two cornerback. The
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: Eagles gave Keelee Ringo three consecutive games starting and I
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: guess against the Bucks he wasn't that bad. He wasn't
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: tested much. He missed a couple of tackles the Broncos game.
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: He was better until later in that game where it
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: was evident that Sean Peyton and Bo Knicks were targeting
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: his side of the field. I look at the two
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: point conversion as a play that they seem to have
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of confidence in isolating Troy Franklin, the wide
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: receiver on Keielee Ringo, and he created separation and they
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: were able to convert that. But then against the Giants,
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: it was a bad showing for Kiey. Ringo gave up
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: the thirty four yard completion on a third and twelve
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: to wide receiver Little Jordan Humphrey, who was called up
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: from the practice squad from that game, and then the
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: next series he allowed a twenty six yard completion of
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: Wandel Robinson. Wandell Robinson catches the football, falls down, then
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: he gets back up and because Keie Ringle didn't touch
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: him down, the play was still alive and he allowed
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: some extra yards.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: So not great awareness there.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: And at one point in that game, Kiely was benched
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: for Adri Jackson and then when when Quinnon Mitchell suffered
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: the hamstring injury, that's when you saw the Eagles have
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: to go with Adri Jackson and Keey Ringo it outside corner.
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: But it sounds like if you listen to Vick Vangio,
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: he said right now, it's probably going to it probably
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: would be a dory the.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: Way we're going to do it in the game.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: And when Quinyon went down, they played both, he said.
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: He explained that that was very evident if he watched
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: the game. But Dori Jackson gets the nod for cornerback
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: two this week. Obviously, the status of Quinyon Mitchell and
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: Eagles are back on the practice field Wednesday will ultimately
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: impact that. But I think it is notable that they
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: gave kie Ringo three games when they put a Dori
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: Jackson in against the Giants, wasn't great. There were some imperfections,
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: but I thought he handed himself a lot better than
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: Keighley did. He's the player that I think if you're
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: Vic Fangio, you have a lot more trust in Right now,
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: he's seen a lot, so you know you're not gonna
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: throw much at him that he hasn't seen before. And
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: what he brings that Kihi Ringo doesn't is the fluidity,
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: the short area quickness. Doesn't have the size of the
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: strength of Kighley, but there are there's something to be
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: said for his movement ability and veteran prowess. So if
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Quinnon can go on Sunday and he has the hamstring,
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: it'll be Quinnon, Mitchell and a Doorri Jackson with Cooper
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: Degen at Nickel. If he can't go, that's where it
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: becomes interesting, because what direction do you go. You could
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: go keithy Ringo at Dory Jackson and roll that tandem
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: back out again with Cooper Dejen remaining there at Nickel,
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: or you could potentially move Cooper Dejen outside, have a
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: Dory Jackson on the other side, and then at Nickel
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: maybe you go Parry Nickerson or mac McWilliams, depending on
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: their comfort level with either player. Thick Fangio has made
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: it very clear at every time the subject comes up
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: that he likes Cooper at Nickel and would like to
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: not move him unless something dire, you know, surfaces, But
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: as I like to say, circumstances tend to alter plans,
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: and this week could be one of those scenarios where
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: you have to can at least consider moving Cooper outside
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: just because of the matchup with as I mentioned, Justin Jefferson,
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: Jordan Addison and those receivers that they have there at
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Minnesota that can be very problematic for a defensive back
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: end that is sort of reeling.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: He talked about mac McWilliams today as well, talked about
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  Speaker 2: how he had been focusing on Nickel, but lately he's
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: been also keying in on outside corner as well. And
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: if you followed along with my rookie diary, and I
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: talked to mc McWilliams every week except for last week
• 5:30
  Speaker 2: did the WBCB show and the locker room was late
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  Speaker 2: and they had one day of availability, so I wasn't
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: able to do it last week. But he's mentioned that
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: he's been mostly focusing at Nickel, which was his primary
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: focus in training camp as well, but then later in
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: training camp they cross trained him outside and it sounds
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: like they're doing that as well, and he even mentioned
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: in one of our our sit downs, I think it
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: might have been even week three or four where he's
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  Speaker 2: mostly or he has been looking at working outside as well.
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: So we'll see if he's going to be in the
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: game day mix at corner. But it seems like all
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  Speaker 2: the options are on the table. But vic Vangiel said,
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: we've got to settle in and find somebody out there
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  Speaker 2: that we can rely on, and I think we have
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: the guys that could do that. We just got to
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: get them playing better. So he gave them an endorsement,
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: and he took vic Vangiel for all of the play,
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: the lackluster play against the Giants that didn't meet their standard.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: He wore that one.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: He said, I didn't coach them up well enough. My
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: calls weren't good enough, and we had trouble with them.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm looking to see a bounce back from this unit.
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: Vic Vangio also talked about the retirement of zadarias Smith
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: and he was surprised and mentioned that he didn't have
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: any Inkling that a retirement was on the rise, and
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: he said, no, I didn't. I was surprised when Howie
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: came in and told me yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it was.
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  Speaker 2: But you always respect the guy's decisions, personal decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Guy had a great career.
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  Speaker 2: Did find when he was here with us he was
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  Speaker 2: good to be around and wish him the best. It
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: takes a lot of strength to do that, and I
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: respect I respect it. So with that being said, you
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: have to notice that the the group of edge rushers
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: is certainly dwindling.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: And that's where you look at it.
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: And they say they have jay loox Hunt, they have
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: josh Usha, they have Patrick Johnson as Zizo Julari. But
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: do they have enough? And Vic Vangio said, you never have.
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  Speaker 2: I think you always want more at any position. But
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  Speaker 2: we have guys in the building who can fulfill it,
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  Speaker 2: and he mentioned Patrick Johnson in that group. Patrick Johnson
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  Speaker 2: has the now that Zidarius Smith has retired, Patrick Johnson
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  Speaker 2: has the only sack on this unit one and it
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: was against the Giants, his first career sack. But now
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  Speaker 2: that they're short on numbers, how will Vic Vanjo go
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: about filling another void at the position, and his answer was,
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: we'll have to absorb the snaps with the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the guys and will make it work. So in house,
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  Speaker 2: there's not a lot of optionality. Who they have is
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: who they have. Remember, Nolan Smith's on injury reserve and
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: Obo Okoronquo is also an injury reserve, except he's done
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: for the season with a triceps injury, so.
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  Speaker 1: He won't be returning.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: Nolan Smith, however, is expected to return sometime in November,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll see how that pans out. But it feels
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: like this is dire straits here. The Eagles almost have
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: to go out there and acquire another edge rusher to.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Boaster the room. They don't have enough there.
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  Speaker 2: They have rookie Antoine Powell Ryan on the practice squad.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: They brought in Titus Leo, who was a twenty twenty
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: three six round pick of the Colts, in for a
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: workout on Tuesday. But they need to bolster that group
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: way and I'm curious to see which direction the Eagles go.
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  Speaker 1: Are they able to.
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  Speaker 2: Connect on a big swing to add a premier pass
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  Speaker 2: rusher in or are they able to add a sort
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  Speaker 2: of a mid tier There's a lot of teams that
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: are going to be looking to boaster their pass rush group.
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  Speaker 2: So it's important to keep that in mind when you
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  Speaker 2: approach it, when you look at it, because the Eagles
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: could want to go for a big fish, but there's
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: other teams like the forty nine ers, for example, that
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  Speaker 2: are also going to be in pursuit of adding to
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  Speaker 2: their respective groups. So that was a that was a
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  Speaker 2: you know, a takeaway that he was optimistic about the
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  Speaker 2: group that he has, but that you're never satisfied. You
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  Speaker 2: always want more at every position, which is what I
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  Speaker 2: expect Vicvanjo to say. But could the Eagles have an
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  Speaker 2: in house solution for the pass rush? And it's important
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  Speaker 2: to note that Nikobe Dean, fresh off the reserve physically
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: unable to perform lists. He played in his first game
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: of the season after being out of football since January
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: with the torn Peteller Tendon. Played six snaps on special
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  Speaker 2: teams against the Giants. It was great to see him
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  Speaker 2: back out there. He just radiates positive energy. I've talked
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  Speaker 2: a lot about this over the past two or three years,
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  Speaker 2: but now that he's sort of gotten his feet wet
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  Speaker 2: and he's rounding back into football shape, you have to
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  Speaker 2: wonder if now he's going to be implemented into the defense,
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  Speaker 2: and that could afford Vic Vanjo with optionality to finally
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: And I say finally because every time Vic is asked,
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: he says, not at this time, not right now. Jahat
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  Speaker 2: Campbell could see some reps at edge, and that way
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: you can find what you can find a way to
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: get all three off off ball linebackers on the field,
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: with Jahat Campbell taking a more expanded role potentially as
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: an edge rusher, which is he's certainly equipped to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And to Kobe and I'm not suggesting to Kobe all
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: of a sudden plays the lion's share of the defensive snaps,
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  Speaker 2: but gradually a handful of snaps, which forwards the Vic
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: Fangil the luxury of sort of building in another edge
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  Speaker 2: rusher with Jahat Campbell and Nakobe is really good against
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: the run, and he's also a good blitzer. So there's
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: ways that you can tap into what he really brings
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: in terms of skill set and ability and get all
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: of your best talent on the field, even if it's
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: just sporadic. But he said, Vic Fangiel said, and this
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: is with regards to Jahad Campbell. It's possible he's been
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: getting edge snaps in certain plays we align. But now,
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: as I mentioned, circumstances tend to alter your plans. You
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: may have to start to expand that role just to
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: be able to fill the void, especially on a week
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: in which to Darius Smith just retired on a Monday,
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: there's not a lot of I mean, there's not enough
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: time for a reinforcement to come in and be able
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: to help the Eagles Sunday realistically, So this is their
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: group that they're going to have to carry in barring
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: something unforeseen. And Jahad Campbell is a very enticing option
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: off the edge, and you might have to see Vicvandr
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: get a little bit more creative and how they're able
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: to provide pressure off the edge. So those are my
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: takeaways from Vic Fang. You always enlightening to hear what
• 12:12
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Patullo, the Eagles offensive coordator, spoke and I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to get I want to make this more of
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: a defensive podcast and summarization on some key points for
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: the different coordinators. So he was asked about what Lane
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Johnson had to say about the predictability of the offense,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: and he said, I think the comment Lane had and
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: what's great about the players is the communication with all
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: of us is constant, whether it's during game, whether it's
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: during the week, even on off days, things like that.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: That's been really really good and productive for us. I
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: think a lot of it comes down to is and
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: I know Nick alluded to this too, is sometimes situational
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: moments in the game where you're limited a little bit
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: depending on where you're at with field position, down in distance,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: select plays, what the defense does at times if they're
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: a big edge pressure team during certain situations, that can
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: dictate a little bit of what you want to do.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: I think when you talk about the situational stuff and
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: or the predictability, you've just got to look at where
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the whole context is. And I think that's what kind
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: of the last day or so over the weekend things
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  Speaker 2: we were able to look at where we were, we were,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: where we want to go, and what we know we
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: need to do to go forward. I think it was
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: very productive. We had a good meeting yesterday. As an
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: offensive unit, and so I think we're in a good
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: spot working forward, but from to a larger perspective, from
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: a larger point, the offense does need to get to
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: find a way to shake things up and force defenses
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: to play them a little bit more. Honestly, there is
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: just a lot of inside zone. When that's not working.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: With Saquon Barkley, it feels like it's predictable running plays
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: and then the deep shot. So there are certain things
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: you can do, and we've talked a lot about this
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to create space for Saquon Barkley. Maybe more eleven personnel.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Maybe if you go to twelve personnel and you're trying
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to utilize the players at your disposal, Cam Latu might
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: work a little bit better in that role. In fact,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: it's obvious that he would versus Kylon Granson or Grant Calcaterra,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: who did not play against the Giants. But they need
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to find ways to be a little bit more creative
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: with their route concepts and just open things up more
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  Speaker 2: offensively because it does feel like a compressed unit, and
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  Speaker 2: they often talk about being behind the sticks on first
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  Speaker 2: and second down, and that's why they haven't been very
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: efficient on third down.
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  Speaker 1: But they have to find ways to get out of
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  Speaker 1: this funk.
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  Speaker 2: And they have a lot of talent there, too much
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: talent to be as lackluster, and I guess underwhelming is
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: probably the best term as they have and I do
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: believe they're going to get it right. And I'm curious
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to see what the offense looks like with a couple
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: more days. You talk about you just heard me read
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: the Patullo quote about the meeting. Maybe they're able to
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board and implement some.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: New wrinkles. So that's something that I'm looking to keep
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: an eye on. And then Michael.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Clay he talked about the and obviously there's been a
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: lot of talk about the return game, Tank Biggs being
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: aj Dillon. They've left a lot to be desired there
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: in terms of handling kickoffs, and they're putting the Eagles
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: in some pretty tough spots in terms of field position.
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  Speaker 2: And then Johan Dotson, he fair catches an awful lot
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  Speaker 2: and doesn't have the explosive qualities or even the ability
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to pick up some of those hidden yards that I've
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: talked a lot to Britain Covey about over the years.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: So let's so Michael Clay was asked about the kick
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  Speaker 2: return game and talked about why, you know why there's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: been a little bit of a struggle. He said, yeah,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's just a little bit. I think just
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit of it has to do with catch
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  Speaker 2: mechanics and if the ball falls on your side, you
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: don't have the opportunity to use more of your body surface.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's as we look at it. It's
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: been our biggest issue.
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  Speaker 2: It's just corralling the ball, whether that's the La Rams
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: game or last Thursday against the Giants.
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  Speaker 1: When we don't corral the ball, that gives.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Us issues and it puts the team in a terrible
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: situation with field position, with the offense, and that falls
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: on me more than anything else.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: But what we've proven that when we.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Do have an opportunity to catch it correctly get north
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: and south. We have been we have some opportunities to
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: get it past the thirty, the Tampa Bay game, the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Denver game. He said a lot more to expand on that,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: but you get the gist of what he's saying.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And then when he was asked, well he go back
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  Speaker 1: to Tank.
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  Speaker 2: Bigsby, he said, yeah, I mean we have obviously a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: plethora of returners that we get to use at to
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: our disposal, so it's not like you make one mistake,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you're going to be benched for the entire for the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: entire of the year. But we have plenty of people
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: to go out there and get the job done.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So we'll see.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Because they also have a returner who has been inactive
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: for the past three weeks who was claimed off waivers
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: by the name is Xavier Gibson, who've mentioned on this podcast,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and I'm curious to see if he gets an opportunity,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: because I mean, there's not going to be it's not
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: going to be too much longer before Darius Cooper's back
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: in the picture. He was put on IR with Noan
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Smith and ja Corey Embnnett on September twenty fourth.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Darius Cooper is.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Going to be that receiver, and they don't. You haven't
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: seen anything of Xavier Gibson in a game situation. So
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see whether the Eagles, you know, tap
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: him on the shoulder, get him involved against the Vikings
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: and at least have a better sense of what he
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: can provide potentially in that realm before you have to
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: make a decision. They also have Britain Covey on the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: practice squad who's really a punt returner, but they do
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: have a lot of options, and presumably because they have
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: so many options, that's why Xavier Gibson hasn't been active
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to this point. But I think now your hands are tied,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: you have to exhaust all of your options and explore
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: what you have and maybe you have some better alternatives.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: So we'll see. But that's something that it's in the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: grand scheme.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It's a footnote, but that's something that I'll be keeping
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: an eye on.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Against the Vikings on Sunday.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Johan Dotson, we'll close it off with this because I
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: mentioned that he's fair caught a great deal of punts
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: this season and there have been instances where he seems
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a little indecisive, and he talked about, you know, fair
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: catching it, and is that something that he's being coached
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: to do. He said no, I think a lot of
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it has to do with I think there's a lot
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: of context in everything. Some of it's just plus fifty punts.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You don't get an opportunity to return in the plus
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: fifty areas. It's not just how it's constructed. In the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: New York game, they had it at the plus forty
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: two and kicked thirty yards. He was at the twelve
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: yard line and we messed it up just by being
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: in terms of some penalties right there.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And now you put the a Rams game. He only had.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: One in the plus fifty as well, so a lot
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: of the times there's some context to it. Now for him,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I think it's just getting back into everything, and he's
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: averaging ten yards on the returns when.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: He does have an opportunity.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: And for a punt returner, you got to really have
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: some faith into the ten other guys and that falls
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: on us.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: To get the return going right there.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: He added to that as well, But you get the
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: picture here as to his reply to Johan Dotson and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the punt return game. So hopefully everything that we've covered
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: here gives you a better sense of, you know, answers
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to questions you probably have, especially some of these that
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: are resounding questions. They're persisting every week, so hopefully that
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: provides a little bit of clarity. But the Eagles are
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: back on the practice field tomorrow and we'll have plenty
• 23:37
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• 23:41
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